Saucony - Endorphin Pro 5

I have the Sky Paris and will tell you that if you even heel strike a little bit, you should look elsewere. To me, the Puma deviate Nitro Elite 3 is a wonderful choice when you factor in everything - lightness, responsiveness, durability, comfort, fit and price. It's the goldilocks of shoes. Sure, the sky Paris might be a tad quicker (altho, I have all my PB's in the puma to be fair...) but is much less stable and comfortable. I ran a while in the Adios Pro 4, but found the heel to be a bit wobbly and the fit/sizing a mess (as usual with Adidas). The vaporfly is just meh, and not really cushioned enough for a full Marathon in my opinion and the Alphafly has too much of a mechanical feel (not to mention insanely priced). The Saucony Endorphin Pro 5 is a good option which is supposed to be a bit more stable than many other super shoes, but I'd take the Deviate Elite 3 over them any day of the week. If you don´t have too much of a wide foot - I'd highly recommend the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 (which also can be found relatively cheap at around 180$ on various sales). For reference I'm 175 lbs, M38 and ran my last Marathon at 2:56 (in the Pumas).

I have 3 pairs of Pro 4 and did a test run in Pro 5 that I also thought was excellent, it is one of my favorite shoes. I can run an pace in them, but they want me to run faster. I also have Speed 4 and don't get along with it, did also do a test run in Speed 5 which for me was no better than the 4. I can not run very long in the Speed 4, it kills my forefoot. I also did a test run in the Azura and liked it a lot, much better than the Speed for me, so are going to get that when I get it on a good discount.

A good stable carbon shoe is the Saucony Endoprhin Pro 4. Suits heel strikers quite well too. If you're running elite times then it might not be quick enough but that's the compromise you make for a wider platform and stability.

They are true to size ish. I wear a UK 9 in non-running shoes and my Endoprhin pros are a 9, but most of my other running shoes are a 9.5 or a 10. I could probably have gotten away with a 9.5. I also tried the Adios Pro 4 and found the Saucony to be a lot more stable. It’s worth saying that different people find that different shoes work for them.

Saucony endorphin 4/5 are a lot more stable race day shoes if you heel strike but if you don't heel strike then you have many other options but I think adios pro 4 is good.

I would recommend asking yourself whether you really need stability shoes. I also pronate (flat feet), but I haven't had any injuries from this. I stopped wearing stability shoes when I became better and found out there isn't a fast stability shoe. Anyway, the endorphin speed and pro work great for me.

I second this. I don’t wear a wide but I have wider feet and these have been my go to. The endorphin pro are ok but B12 feel more stable

From my experience saucony endorphin pro has the most stable foam/heel area of any carbon shoes i have used

I’ve been going through my own search for a race day shoe.  I ended up with Endorphin Pro, as recommended below by several people.  Took it for a test spin and it is just fine in 8-9 minute pace (120lb woman).  That said I am running my own HM race today and have opted into wearing my trusty Endorphin Speeds which I know will be fine for me even if I tire and slow down a bit the last mile or two from my planned pace.  Going to see how the pros work in a 5k/10k before potentially using them in a HM race later in the season.   Also considered for today’s race the NB SC Trainer, which I genuinely like a lot, but the Endorphin Speeds are just faster in my opinion.  The Trainer is a pretty forgiving shoe - not uncomfortable even at warm up / cool down paces.  They are a bit redundant with the Speeds in my rotation but I got a great deal on them! I for one am fully invested in this ridiculous bet and hope you post the outcome in a few weeks!  

I'm a woman and rotate Asics novablast for long runs and Saucony Endorphin Speeds for speed work/tempo. (I also have a pair of Hoka torrents for trails and some Saucony Endorphin pros for races)

Saucony endorphin pro, very happy, shoes arrived too close to race day and didn’t have much time to test them anyway went with them and don’t regret it. Only thing I regret is being too careful and not pushing more