Saucony - Triumph 23

Sounds like you got the Novablast with the expectation it would perform like the Superblast. The Superblast (gen 1) is one of my favorites ever. I never jived with the Novablasts though. My dailies rotate between Triumph 23, Vomero 18 and Superblast.

The Triumph 21 was so good. Not in a "wow these are exciting!" way, but in a "I can just put them on and not think about it no matter how many miles I do or don't run" kind of way. Just never had a shoe quite like that. It just chewed up miles. The Triumph 23 is fine, but doesn't disappear on my feet quite like the 21 did. The Vomero 18 is sliding into its place in my rotation lately.

Did a bit over 400 on my 21s. They're not totally retired, but are losing their magic a bit. I'm 200-ish pounds and run fast for my size, so they've had hard use. I know people tend to get more out of them usually, but I'm just one of those whose style is hard on shoes. My 23s are still new - just got them a few weeks ago, but haven't been out much since I got them due to being sick and nursing an angry hammy. Only have like 10mi on them so far.

21 is PWRRUN+ vs the new PRRUN PB, - just feels a bit different overall, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Though it's a bit tough to do apples-to-apples since my 21s have so many miles and it's tough to recall exactly how they felt when they were brand new. But overall, I'd say the 21 had a bit more "plush" feel to them, which I now get out of my Vomero 18s. The Triumph 23 is more responsive, so I think will be better for when I'm after a bit faster pace.

I'm down to 195 from 210 a few months ago - but run fast paces for my size. The Saucony Triumph 21 was my GOAT daily trainer, but the 22 and 23 just weren't the same. RAD UFO, Vomero 18 and Vomero+ are my current go-tos (in that order). All three have been very, very good to me so far.

I'm down to 195 from 210 a few months ago - but run fast paces for my size. The Saucony Triumph 21 was my GOAT daily trainer, but the 22 and 23 just weren't the same. RAD UFO, Vomero 18 and Vomero+ are my current go-tos (in that order). All three have been very, very good to me so far.

Phenomenal shoe and was the favourite in my rotation until I picked up a pair of Triumph 23’s on sale. I love these things just a bit more

Oooo, you are probably one of the few people that can help me. The triumph 21 was my unicorn shoe and I haven’t found something to replace it. The triumph 22 and the ride 18 were just stiff bricks that hurt my legs and had no energy return. Does the Vomero plus give that nice little pop after a soft landing like the T21 did?

New Balance foams just don’t last long. Try out the Saucony Ride 18, Triumph 23, very good all round shoes and they’re built like tanks, i put 1000kms on my Triumph 20s, and yes I’m a heavy runner

Heavier and shorter than you and I've taken shoes to +600 miles, just add variety to your rotation by buying previous versions of shoes popular with heavier runners, I have a bias for all things Saucony given their foams are built like tanks, you can get the Hurricane 24s for sub $100, the Triumph 23s for $110 (I pushed the T20s to 645 miles). I have the SB2s but I'll be honest, I think I'll wear out that foam sooner then I'd hope to so I'm sparing them for long runs only.

My Triumph 23 was that shoe for me but mine are a bit dead now so I don't really take them out on runs over 10k. But they're super poppy and have a lot of energy return. Just a really fun shoe to run in.

* Saucony Triumph 23 Wide * New Balance FuelCell SuperComp Elite v5 (2e) * New Balance 1080v14 (2e) * Asics Novablast 5 Wide

I haven't really been doing this whole running thing for a very long time but I did recently get something dedicated for 'speed work' recently and I will share my thoughts so maybe you can find something useful in there. I've so far been running everything in a daily trainer and I'm pretty slow (LR pace I shoot for a 6~6:30/k, speed work I try and hit a 5:30/k). My rotation of daily trainers includes the Saucony Triumph 23, NB 1080v14 and Asics Novablast5. They're all fairly plush and kind of heavier shoes. It was recommended to me that I get something a bit more 'speed focused' for my workout/higher intensity runs and I thought nothing of it. Until I did a demo in some NB SC Elite v5's. And then I understood it. And while the SC Elite might be a bit too aggressive for routine workout efforts, I did get a Saucony Endorphin Speed 5. I like that it's lighter and has a bit firmer outsole than my 'daily trainer' rotation and I feel like it's a lot easier to do harder work in them. I'm just a dumb guy on the internet so I can't tell you why that is but I definitely like the feeling of it. I'm not sure if it's because there's less loss in the foam compressing or maybe that's just the way then shoe returns energy (or possibly a combo of the two) but it feels like I'm putting in less effort and able to go harder. And that does make me feel good mentally alongside the physical effects of the workout run.

Until recent it was Superblast 1 and Prime X1 (before the strung) both retired. Now Zoom Fly 6 if there are faster training blocks and Triumph 23 for easy.

This is what I was going to say. The other ones I'd throw out are the Salomon Glide 3 or the Triumph 23 when it comes out next month. Both of those are resilient shoes with good internal stability (Triumph I'm going off of track record. I have 20's and 21s that are still kicking!)

How would you compare the feel of the Triumph 23 to the Mach 6? Thomas Do Canto on the Inside Running Podcast likes both, and I also like the Mach 6 the most out of shoes in my rotation (using for daily/easy runs). Have been thinking about eventually adding the Triumph to the rotation as a second long run alternative to the Superblast 2

I’ve just bought a pair of saucony triumph 23, and I’m really happy with them. They offer a lot of comfort but are still light. Great toe box.

I was in your position (actually worse, I was heavier) when I started this year. Super flat feet, zero arch. Hard on shoes. Saucony Triumph 22 or 23 (I have multiple pairs of both models) have held up really well for me, are very cushioned, and work well with my flat feet. They also critically come in wide sizes (which helps with the flat foot problem as well, as flat feet are often also much wider than arched feet. Also testing out some New Balance Rebel V5s and Super trainer v3s, also in wide. Jury is still out on the durability (less than 100 miles on both of them), but they both are great as well.

I was in your position (actually worse, I was heavier) when I started this year. Super flat feet, zero arch. Hard on shoes. Saucony Triumph 22 or 23 (I have multiple pairs of both models) have held up really well for me, are very cushioned, and work well with my flat feet. They also critically come in wide sizes (which helps with the flat foot problem as well, as flat feet are often also much wider than arched feet. Also testing out some New Balance Rebel V5s and Super trainer v3s, also in wide. Jury is still out on the durability (less than 100 miles on both of them), but they both are great as well.

Having run with the triumph 21, I switched to the triumph 23, I do not recommend. Severe pain in the ankles and lower shin from the 3rd km at a pace of 5'20.