D20 Ultra

Reposting dari thread 3 bulan lalu (https://www.reddit.com/r/indonesia/comments/1q7aqgx/comment/nyeffri/): >Gw pake umeda tomo r2 beli 2022 baru rusak di mainboard pas akhir 2025 kemaren. >Sebenernya agak nyesel beli model ini karena common partnya ternyata dikit (design dust bag proprietary, dimensi hepa filter gak umum) dibanding model lain yang partnya lebih gampang dicari brand generik-nya. >Sekarang udah ganti dreame D20 ultra, partnya gampang. So far juga performa-nya lebih oke. Semoga lebih awet juga. Masalah gw sama Umeda: partnya jarang yang generik, jadi perlu diakalin kalo mau pake part merek lain, terus service centernya jauh dari rumah jadi lumayan PR kalo rusak dan mau claim garansi. Minggu lalu sebelum lebaran Dreame gw rusak juga, side brushnya dari app-nya katanya stuck tapi pas dicek gaada apa-apa yang nyangkut. Untung service centernya deket rumah, jumat kemaren balik dan so far no problem. Semoga aja awet deh.

Gw ambil dreame soalnya liat di ecommerce dreame harganya mid sih gak semahal ecovacs tapi gak murah banget juga, parts common-nya banyak jadi gak perlu beli langsung ke dreame juga bisa beli spare brush, dust bag dkk, satu lagi service center deket rumah banget jadi kalo ada trouble ya tinggal drop by aja

Both robots are identical in terms of features. The roborock has a simpler app UI and better navigation than dreame's robots. Roborock's base station's mop washboard is also easier to clean as you won't have to reach down and scrub since it's completely removable, and there shouldn't be any dirt collecting under the tray since the suction tube is not positioned at the bottom but from the top. dreame's removable mop washboard, where the dirty water suction is positioned at the bottom means you'd also have to clean that area under the drain filter after removing the washboard.

I’d check out the dreame d20 if you just want a basic no frills vacuuming focused robot that does well with long hair and has a basic charging base station. The dreame d20 plus and the pro plus has an autoempty station. The MOVA e30 pro plus ultra is going to be the best bang for buck if you want what the dreame d20 pro plus offers at a lower price. Would also check out the roborock q10 s5+ as a great budget friendly vacuum focused robot. MOVA sent me their v50 ultra and their z60 ultra roller to review as part of their Reddit collaboration program. MOVA’s hyperstream antitangle duorollers that the dreame d20 series also has really do work with waist length hair and my long haired corgi’s fur on hard floors and carpets.

What about Ultra? We bought the D20 ultra through a phone provider promo, but can't find anything about it on the website of dreame. Was looking for accessories

Dreame D20 Ultra is my recommendation.

Based on your needs, Sados 10r is an overkill except you are planned to move into larger place in the next months. For Roborock, if you don't mind washing and changing the mop pad before every mopping session, you can go with Q7 M5/L5/TF with + designation for auto empty station. The Q10 S5+/X5+ gives more features above Q7 like obstacle avoidance sensor, vibrating mop pad and lifting mop pad unlike passive mop like in Q7. If you need a bit more automation, you can spend a little more on QV35A/QV35S (different only in suction power 8000Pa vs 10000Pa), and Qrevo S (7000Pa but come with warm air mop drying unlike ambient temperature drying in QV35). The QV35 has other names in some regions called Qrevo L. For Dreame, you can go with their D9 Max Gen 2 (no auto-empty dock), D10 Plus Gen 2 (with auto-empty dock), D20 Pro Plus (upgraded from D10 with more features like obstacle avoidance, extendable side brush, dual roller main brush great for anti tangle, and 13000Pa suction). There's also D20 Plus with almost similar specs to D20 Pro Plus but without the extendable side brush for corner cleaning and obstacle avoidance sensor. If you need a bit automation, there is D20 Ultra (offered in certain regions), L10s Ultra, L10s Ultra Gen 2, and so on. There's also Mova (Dreame's cheaper sub-brand) with S10 (cousin to D9), E30 Ultra for a bit more automation but cheap (cousin to D20 Ultra), S20 Ultra, or P10 Pro Ultra. You could also try to check Xiaomi's robots if available in your place. Their customer service is mostly decent and their robot is designed by Dreame using Dreame's older design and sold at cheaper and competitive price than Roborock, Dreame, and Mova.

Great call — the “S” and “Pro” tags are basically Dreame’s way of saying “this is the upgraded version of the normal one.” In the L-series especially, those variants can absolutely punch above their weight and even overlap with X-series features. The quick read: **S models** Smarter navigation, better obstacle avoidance, and usually a nicer mop wash/dry system. Same core robot as the base model, just… more robot. **Pro models** Higher suction, stronger carpets performance, and sometimes better edge cleaning or faster mapping. Totally agree it gets messy, but yeah — an L40S or L30 Pro can feel closer to X-series than people expect.

Yeah, “Ultra” is another one of those Dreame labels that sounds bigger than it actually is. Short version: **Ultra usually refers to the dock, not a totally different robot.** For the **D20 Ultra** specifically: * It’s basically a **D20-class robot + an auto-empty dock** * Same core robot as the D20 / D20 Pro line * “Ultra” just means it has the self-empty base, not higher-end navigation or obstacle avoidance That’s why it barely shows up on Dreame’s main site. Models sold through carriers, Costco, ISPs, or promos often get slightly renamed SKUs that don’t live in the normal retail lineup.

If obstacle avoidance around cat toys actually matters, the **L20 Ultra** is the safest pick out of the three. It has proper camera-based avoidance that’s good enough for cords, toys, and random floor junk. Hair handling is fine on hard floors and rugs, especially if you add a TriCut-style roller later. For 35 sqm, it’s honestly more robot than you strictly need, but it’ll be the least annoying day to day. The **D20 Plus** is the best pure vacuum value, but you’re right, it basically has **no real obstacle avoidance**. It cleans well, handles hair nicely, but it will absolutely eat cat toys if you forget to tidy up. If you’re okay watching the floor or running it when things are picked up, it’s solid. If not, it’ll frustrate you. The **D20 Ultra** sits in an awkward middle. You pay more than the D20 Plus, but the obstacle avoidance is still pretty basic compared to the L-series. It’s better than nothing, but not reliable enough that you can just forget about toys entirely. Hard to justify the extra $60 unless the pricing gap was smaller.

For a 65 m² apartment with LVP + rugs and long hair, I’d pick either the Dreame L40 Ultra CE (429€) or the Roborock Qrevo Master (469€). The L40 Ultra CE is a strong value because you still get the hands off dock experience, but it’s the more “budget minded” L40 variant (less advanced avoidance than the AI editions). The Qrevo Master is worth the extra 40€ if hair wrap drives you nuts, Roborock leans hard into anti tangle brush design and it tends to be low maintenance with long hair. I’d skip the L40 Ultra AE at 570€ for your layout unless you specifically want the extra obstacle smarts and hair focused brush bundle that comes with the higher trim, because 65 m² does not need the top tier to feel like a huge upgrade from Roomba + Braava. If you want the cheapest option that still feels “modern,” the D20 Ultra at 350€ is fine, but it’s the one I’d expect you to outgrow first compared to L40 CE or Qrevo Master.

If you liked the D20 mainly for the **dual-roller / anti-tangle behavior + pet hair handling**, the real step up in your range isn’t just “L40 Ultra,” it’s actually the **L50 Ultra class**. That’s where Dreame really refines that system, better hair handling, stronger real-world pickup (not just suction numbers), and fewer clogs with heavy shedding like your setup. The L40 Ultra is more of a features jump (auto mop, dock, etc.), but the L50 is the one that *feels* like a performance upgrade from a pet owner perspective. If you want the closest thing to your X60 experience upstairs, that’s the safer pick in the $600–700 range. On the wet side, Dreame doesn’t really do “steam” like a traditional CrossWave, it’s more **heated water washing + drying**. Closest match is something like the **H12 Pro / H13 class**, which are solid for cordless scrub + pickup, but they won’t replace true steam stain removal. If you’re used to the CrossWave for tougher messes, you’ll still get good daily cleaning and convenience, just think of it as *maintenance cleaning with some scrubbing*, not deep stain extraction.

We got one last year, with auto empty and mopping feature. I think it's great,  we set up to "deep clean" twice a week and vacuüm twice more inbetween in heavy use area. While it is great, it does not do the same quality job, especially in mopping,  compared to doing it ourselves. The robot does its thing and maybe once every two month we do a deeper clean in the house where we also do some mopping. We got the Dreame d20