Dreame - D9 Max

10-12 years ago, I had a pair of Neato XV21s. They were fine. They were much better cleaners than my Deebot X1 Plus is. My Dreame D9 Max however, picks up better than the XV21s did, but I'm not totally wowed by how much better, so I don't think it's a lot. . I would hope that if you're talking about ones that are above the $200 mark, there would have been significant improvements since then. I can't find the specs on my old ones, but the D9 Max is rated for 4000 Pa, the X1 Plus 5000 Pa .. The X1 Plus's suction is *terrible* though in comparison to the D9. So I guess specs aren't everything. I had a Neato D8 that only lasted about 6 months (and the company offered to replace it, even after they had folded, but I couldn't find my receipt) that was rated for 2500Pa, and it was much better than the X1 Plus, too. With models out there exceeding 20k Pa on the top end, I'd hope there are improvements in the last decade!

ah i just made an assumption based on the fact the one i have is really good and i assumed the newer one could only have improved, but i guess you know what they say about assumption. maybe consider the S8 max ultra? i believe it also gets good reviews though i cant promise its actually worth the extra over the S7 max ultra (i think its about £300 more for the 8 i know it has stronger suction (not always better, my dreame d9 max 2 has more than the s7 but its not as good) and the built in direct voice commands (rather than through google/alexa) but im not sure theres many other additions in general this thing is awesome, ill be interested to see how it does over an extended period as i too have long, very thick, very strong hair that sheds allover the house, it doesnt seem o have caused an issue yet but im sure it eventually will. its definitely much quieter than my dreame was well except for when it empties the dust bag when it sounds like a regular upright hoover for a few seconds. also i suspect youll find it even better performing than me as until i can afford to get them ripped out i have very thick pile carpets, itll work much better on a hard floor (it does in my kitchen which is stone tiles)

Same, Got a Dreame D9 Max for I think about €220, needed a new motherboard but that was fixed in a week by sending it to Germany. Multi map, pretty decent vacuuming, mopping is nothing less than dragging a wet cloth over your floor so don't expect to much from that.

Not sure that I would go back to roborock again, pretty disappointed with my qrevo Master since he got entangled all the time (cables,cat toys). My simple Dreame D9 has no such issues

Dreame D9 with no fancy features at all is so much better at avoiding cat toys and cables. Our Master gets stuck every second run, quite disappointed. On the other hand, I pick up and clear the house before I start the robo. Not what I expected but alas.

It's fun that obstacle avoidance became a marketing term. The roborock Master is just bad at avoiding obstacles, not sure why it's even mentioned as a feature. Almost no run where I don't have to free him of cords/cables or a hidden cat toy he 'found' under the sofa. My old Dreame D9 has no AI or 'obstacle avoidance ' and just has no issues and gets almost never stuck

Roborock ist Not good at object avoidance, try Dreame. Love my old D9

> Dreame L10s How's the app on that one? I've got the D9 (I think), and the "Mi" app is a little lacking. The map tends to drift over time, and sometimes it "forgets" the map altogether. No HA integration here, no mods.

I have this one as well, but the version without the self emptying deck. I'm always scared of bugs climbing in there and nesting before I get to empty it. This being said, I love it, and it's not even my first Dreame: I've never been able to find a better quality/price deal.

I've got a dreamtech which has self cleaning mops and it does pretty good. I've also got 2 kids and toys all over the floor and it barely gets stuck.

Got the dream a few weeks ago. It's a game changer. I had a Neato and a few iRobots over the years. With those units, I spent more time pulling out dog hair and untangling rollers than actually using the product. This is a lot more advanced, and with the self emptying, it's pretty great. All I do now is swap out the water tanks every day. Gripes? The mop pad on the base station gets hairy. It has difficulty getting dirt between the edge of the rug and the hardwood floors. It's expensive. All in all, it's a nice machine.

Just get the top level dreamebot or roborock (same company owns both). Their robots do an excellent job, and the app works really well!

Looks like you’re right, they are technically not both currently owned by xiaomi, but they share a ton of similarities. My coworker has a dreamebot and his app, replacement parts, features are nearly identical to my roborocks.

Thanks for sharing! I hypothesize that the X50 Ultra's poor battery life is likely due to the more power-hungry computer chip it utilizes. My own experience with the L40s Pro Ultra (mainland Chinese version) had a *worse battery life* that struggled to finish cleaning my home whereas my much cheaper combo Xiaomi robot (also mainland Chinese version) that has the same battery capacity and is also made by Dreame would be able to vacuum first and then mop my small apartment and finish with 50%. Other reviewers have reported that the L40s Pro Ultra (non-mainland Chinese edition) had a bad battery life, just like me :( Hopefully, this issue will be fixed soon. I hope the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track doesn't suffer the same battery life issue, especially because it'll need a more powerful chip to process all the information coming from the HD binocular RGB cameras and the dot projector, and a power-efficient water heater in the robot to heat the water up.