Dreame - L10s Ultra

L10 ultra owner here, well I got rid of it, in 1 year it started falling apart. Was unable get water from the dock, then eventually vacuum stopped, went back to Roborock. They are also not super durable but way better than dreame, not touching dreame again.

Nooooo that's the basic L10 Ultra without the "s" or the Gen 2. That would have the same horrible obstacle avoidance as the T20, and it also doesn't have mop extend for edge cleaning. Not sure how the vacuuming power compares in real world, but on paper the L10 Ultra is slightly worse than the T20. The L10 Ultra will have an onboard tank, but again the T20 features hot water mop washing. I think the L10 Ultra would be a better choice if you need to mop a large area.

I got a Dreametech a couple of weeks ago to help keep up with two GSDs and a toddler, and I have to say it has exceeded expectations! This is the one I got, and it was on a much better sale for Father’s Day. Prime Days are coming up soon so you should be able to score a pretty good deal on one then (whatever model you go with!) https://ca.dreametech.com/products/dreamebot-l10s-ultra?variant=45828562845953&country=CA¤cy=CAD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=5&gad_campaignid=22457582297&gclid=CjwKCAjwsZPDBhBWEiwADuO6y_kUZxe7XvPlf7crWvd5am4QdenkFk-UTxwRDmAhRnbxLUaKCZwmoBoC3ZYQAvD_BwE

Unfortunately, all the models that are good with dealing with hair and are good at mopping do require dust bags. The official ones are cheap to buy on AliExpress or Taobao. The roborock Q Revo Curv/Edge was mentioned here but as it is not available in the Australian market and the fact that it will be priced beyond your budget, I do not recommend it. As such, I’d recommend the Dreame L10S Ultra as it is the only one that can deal with long dog hair at this budget. People have said fur and hair can go to the sides but this is an easily avoided problem if you buy the accompanying brush cover that prevents it from doing so. If you’re okay with cleaning fur from the sides for better carpet cleaning, you could also consider the roborock s8 pro ultra for its double rollers. I do not recommend ecovacs for several reasons. I remember a Korean user at a net cafe complained about how their much more expensive ecovacs model that was recently released failed to pick up loose fur balls even when their much cheaper Xiaomi model could.

What about a refurbished Dreame flagship like the Dreame L10S Ultra? It comes with a 2 year warranty from AllState and is compatible with the dreame TriCut brush and the accompanying brush cover which has worked great for hair in my home. It’s currently 399 USD. https://www.ebay.com/itm/355522349613?itmmeta=01JAGC96GKFDP57XV6VGFQNADB&hash=item52c6c88a2d:g:UjIAAOSwyDJlrkJg

Do note you will have to clear out any tangles on the side of the brush from time to time. I recommend buying an officially refurbished dreame model L10 something model as you can use the TriCut brush and the self driven self cleaning mop washing tray with it.

Any pets or long hair? The Dreame L10S Ultra's compatibility with the anti-tangle tricut brush would be better suited. A robot vacuum is worth it if you want something to do basic general upkeep of your floors.

Thanks for sharing! I hypothesize that the X50 Ultra's poor battery life is likely due to the more power-hungry computer chip it utilizes. My own experience with the L40s Pro Ultra (mainland Chinese version) had a *worse battery life* that struggled to finish cleaning my home whereas my much cheaper combo Xiaomi robot (also mainland Chinese version) that has the same battery capacity and is also made by Dreame would be able to vacuum first and then mop my small apartment and finish with 50%. Other reviewers have reported that the L40s Pro Ultra (non-mainland Chinese edition) had a bad battery life, just like me :( Hopefully, this issue will be fixed soon. I hope the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track doesn't suffer the same battery life issue, especially because it'll need a more powerful chip to process all the information coming from the HD binocular RGB cameras and the dot projector, and a power-efficient water heater in the robot to heat the water up.

I got the Dreame L10 ultra. It has everything you wish for and is in your budget. I can recommend. You can start it remote and it vacuums and wipes in one go. You just have to prepare your apartment so nothing lays on the ground and open the doors.

The reactive tech in a lot of Roborock's budget models is usually awful, since it lacks an RGB camera. The Qrevo series, which has a similar obstacle avoidance system, consistently scored around 3/10 in our testing between 3 models. The cheapest vacuum with great obstacle avoidance among the ones I've tested is the Dreame L10s Ultra (8.2/10). I see it on Amazon Australia for $599. It's a fully featured flagship from 2022, so the dock has auto empty and mop washing. I wouldn't be able to confirm which one is better in terms of pickup performance, as I have not tested the Q10V+. The L10s Ultra does well on hard floor, but it can struggle on carpet. If you have carpet, I'd recommend getting the tricut brush from Dreame to help agitate the debris out. Dreame sells it for $199Au, but here in Canada it's like 70$ regular price (and our dollar is weaker), so I would only get it as a last resort or on sale. Hope this helps!

I was the tester that did our review of the Eufy S1 Pro, and while it didn't do the best on carpet, it'll still get the job done if you only have hard floors. I know the amount of choice and difference in reviewer's opinions/results can be overwhelming, but it doesn't have to be a super stressful decision. The reality is that robot vacuums are really just meant for day to day maintenance, which a lot of them are good at. When I recommend to friends and family, I usually try and find the best deal at the time of them asking, while avoiding a few specific robots. My most recommended robot to people I know is the Dreame L10s Ultra, just because there's always flash sales where's it at a ridiculously low price that it's a no-brainer, even though it's not our best scoring. Our tests are designed to push robots to their limits with a large amount of debris in a small space. For performance, I'd look more into what debris types the robot struggles with and if that applies to you. For example, the Dreame X50 struggled with finer debris, and I've seen a few people complain about that on this subreddit. If you want, you can let me know your specific needs outside of obstacle avoidance (floor types, ideal budget, app features, etc) and I can find a robot vacuum that I think would be best suited for you! No pressure tho, and my recommendation will not be dependent on you going to our website and clicking an affiliate link. Hope this helps!

I've tested all three of these, and I would either go with the Qrevo S or the L10s Ultra. I had a lot of issues with pickup, navigation, and the app for the X10 pro omni, and it's not a model I would recommend. Here's a breakdown of the two models I would suggest: https://preview.redd.it/hmw7skr7dekf1.png?width=1803&format=png&auto=webp&s=4a3f18d2c5238ae78e210387dc1bfc8643385b17 I would go with the L10s Ultra if you need obstacle avoidance, as it's significantly better than Qrevo S. The Qrevo S does slightly better on hard floor and low-pile, and has better battery life and is quieter. If you get the L10s Ultra from Dreame's website you can also get it for 419$, or 377$ if you sign up for their mailing list. There's also a deal on the L10s Pro Ultra Heat, which is the same robot but with a dock that has hot water mop washing, and comes with an accessory kit for free (499$ or 459$ if you sign up for the mailing list). The Dreame is the better value overall, depending on how much you found the Qrevo S for. Also for transparency, if you go to our website for more info there will be affiliate links, so if you want to avoid those then you can ask me follow-up questions here, and I'll provide you more info. Hope this helps!

I had a midrange roborock s5max for about 4 years. Just upgraded it because I wanted obstacle avoidance and self emptying. I bought a midrange dreame l20 I don't regret it.but the feature i wish I had but wasn't willing to pay for was the extendable corner brush. It wasn't worth $400 to me. It is also so careful with the object avoidance that it won't go into areas that were easily cleaned by my less fancy old robot that i still run sometimes for that reason. It's also very slow but i don't know if that's all object avoidance vacs or if newer higher tier ones are faster. I owned a dreame l10 ultra for a few weeks and returned it because the lack of led lights meant the obstacle avoidance camera couldn't detect in the dark.

This is great! I’m surprised to see the Dreame L10 Ultra takes the top spot for under $400. I bought mine seven months ago and it’s been broken the majority of the time with very little support from the company. Today they agreed to refund, we’ll see if they actually do. I did love it when working so looking for a mop/vac auto empty/cleaning and will definitely use this list. Thanks!

Well the only real way to manage such cat fur is with a real vacuum like a miele or Sebo. My Miele compactifies months of kitty crumbs & fur like a champ (no cotton candy fur effect here). I use a dreame l10s ultra as my robot. I don't rely on the robot doing deep carpet cleans as I real vacuum about once a week but the dreame has been excellent with kitty floor and my long thick hair (with the dreame cutting brush). The q revo curv is the best robot money can buy right now so ofc that's the best recommendation. I like the dreame better for tighter margins and being more intrepid about mopping next to rugs. Get the dreame x40 master if you can afford it and do the water hookup as the water hookup is one of the final frontiers for a hands free robot. The dreame l10s ultra is sufficient and can empty its bin regularly to deal with kitty floof, but running it everyday should avoid any bin clogs. I would say the dreame l10s pro ultra is worth getting for hot water and water dirtiness sensor (advanced new mopping features). If you want the most advanced vacuum features get the roborock q revo curv. Checkout vacuumwars for feature comparisons and checkout RTINGS for some more grounded opinions. Overall stick with dreame and Roborock. They're repairable with great customer service and parts availability. One thing, the roborocks are SIGNIFICANTLY quieter than the dreames, but Pepperoni doesn't mind the dreame running. The Miele is ofc quieter than the robots on max power tho. Overall a robot is an amazing, indispensable companion to a bagged vacuum in a pet home! With my robot running multiple times daily, I almost never feel the need to "on demand" vacuum anymore.

So I bought a q revo and dreame l10s and compared them directly and ended up keeping the l10s because it seems to do a better job of mopping (and is willing to mop in skinnier areas of my hard floor around rugs). I don't mind the worse app with dreame, it's completely usable and reliable, just with weird translations. I genuinely like the roborock carpets first feature but I don't miss it with scheduling. If you can afford the l40 ultra, that's what I would buy for the best features (hot water mop washing, self cleaning washboard, water turbidity sensor, mop extend & lifting brush, hair cutting roller). How much more expensive are the premier q revo models in your area (the master, slim, edge, curv)? If theyre the same price (or you can afford the slight increase) I'd get those for the best of both worlds: premier features and the superior roborock app.

Some people seem to have good experiences with the yeedi... But it's hard to tell how long they'll last and how easy to fix they are. At $400 I would buy the ebay refurbished Dreame l10s Ultra or Roborock Q revo direct from dreame and Roborock. If you save them and wait for a few days - week you'll likely be advertised a sale or coupon code. They have 2 year warranties and roborocks are the best. Dreames can have more features and are slightly cheaper but they're louder and have a worse app.

A little non-existent, but hit the Bissell crosswave hydro steam does exist. And being Bissell, reputable, it's the only floor washer vacuum I'd buy. If your messes are mostly dry with minor splashes and puddles then I think a robot would be the best for hands offness while maintaining general cleanliness but you'd need to do deeper cleans every month or something. The $300 price point is a little difficult tho because that robot is great (Dreame l10s ultra) but there are quite a few tradeoffs that make it worse than the absolute value winner the Mova p10 ultra (for $500). If you already have a vacuum/mop that you like then I think a robot for multi daily sweeping and mopping is the best option. Mine sweeps 3 times a day and mops daily. While doing a deep mopping twice a week. I also ask it to clean my kitchen when I'm almost done cooking (like when something's on the final simmer). Between scheduling the robot around meal/bathtime and asking it to do specific routines, these robot vac mops are pretty amazing. Only get one of the xiaomi family of brands (roborock, dreame, Mova).

3" fibers but a little flat. All my robots this far have gotten bogged down on it. Roborock qrevo and dreame l10s at least made it off 🤷🏾‍♂️ I think the adaptilift robots may work for it.

Yeah with people making retail purchases like a robot vacuum, I would advise buying 2, trialing them, and returning one. It's a huge purchase so it should be perfect 🤷🏾‍♂️ If they have the credit/capital to do that ofc. I did that for the original q revo vs my dreame l10s. I didn't think the roborock commanded that $100 price difference at the time (for me).

Maybe if customer support was way more reliable and the prices were halved, I’d consider upgrading from the L10 Ultra. Our next upgrade is going to be to a Matic, heard nothing but amazing things.

The [dreame L10s](https://amzn.to/3WUjIAL) At home, my family bought this last month for Christmas, so far it's been doing a great job keeping the hardwood floors and the carpets pretty cleam, and it's also super quiet, making it very friendly for homes with small children, so it can do its job without disturbing the environment. You should take a look, it may surprises you, I think there's an offer right now.

well i had actually originally purchased the L10 but then refunded it and got the roborock because i saw online that it was better at vacuuming and mopping. i know its worse at obstacle avoidance but im a pretty tidy guy i just like to keep my windows open which tends to collect dust inside so i figured the roborock may be better. i am also taking my robot with me abroad where i study and ive seen (all though very few) some instances where people had their dreame break down on them within a month and require maintenance. i study in a country with no real mailing services and no service centers for any of the mentioned companies so my thought process was to get the “most” reliable brand.

I have a Dreame L10S Ultra. the only other robovac that I had was an old eufy that didn't have a base. I really like the Dreame. it mops and vacs, but doesn't mop super well. it's good enough to keep it looking nice but I definitely need to manually mop like once a month or something

I have 2 Dreame L10S, the gen 1 and the gen 2. about $400 each. they work very well and integrate into HA.

I read this stuff and wonder to myself did I get the only properly functioning robot but then I remember I have 2 and both of them function just fine. L20 Ultra and L10S. Is it just people with no issues say nothing? Are people not doing regular maintenance? I am not doubting anything said here but am genuinely confused as to how there can be so many issues.

L40 Ultra with current in store promotions will definitely make the decision a lot easier, since it can be had for $399 before tax, plus they throw in free gifts with purchase. It's a better overall model than the L10s with more suction, battery, better self washing and washboard cleaning as well. It's a steal for the price and if you were considering one over the other, I'd say overall L40 Ultra is a great value product in the market right now. Hope this helps narrow down the search a little for you, and if any questions, don't hesitate to reach out. happy hunting!

I've never checked mine empties great - L10s

Bang for buck - mova p10 ultra Money is no object/I want the best - roborock Sara's 10r or dreame x50 ultra Budget/cheapest option changes alot based on sales. Just the other week I bought a refurbished L10s ultra for $240 Honorable mention - the new eufy e28 can be had for $800. I think its worth considering because the roller mop system they have going seems to do really good for mopping in general.

It was fine but I returned it for 2 reasons 1) not great in corners (as expected) 2) if I forgot to pick up a wire, this thing was gonna send me an alert while I was at work telling me " mop pad came off" The L40 was on sale this week so I upgraded.

We have a L10s Ultra and after 3 years it doesn't mop properly anymore. There does not come enough water out of the vacuum. It mops dry. We took it to our local dealer and they looked into it and couldn't fix the problem. Would not recommend it. Such an expansive tool should work longer.

I received a Dreame L10s ultra for Christmas. It has been an amazing experience so far! Highly recommend

Experience with 2 vacuums: I was using Mi robot (forgot model name; bought for 20k in 2020). It was a basic model with vacuum and mop functions. Worked okay, mopping was pretty ineffective if there are any hard stains. After a few years, battery life went down and mapping function also got impaired after we changed houses. Overall, 6/10. Recently bought Dreame L10s ultra. They needed some form filling to be done to get a demo person, which my mom couldn’t do, so by the time I did and by the time the service person came (1 week after filling form), return/exchange window was closed. The person discovered that the machine had faulty power button, and since I cannot return via Amazon, he asked us to send to service centre. They took a good 10-11 days to return the machine. Then the service person came, did demo, and we finally started using it 1 month after purchase. Although the initial service made us question the ROI, the machine itself is a dream indeed. My mom remarked that her slippers are squeaking on the floor because the machine did an excellent job at mopping. She manually swept the rooms today and said there was no dust and did the sweeping only for namesake. We also marked my grandfather’s room as a no-go zone and the machine does not go there. Overall, I am happy with this investment.

I’ve got a dreame L10s ultra and would never get one again.

The velcro on the mop mechanism got clogged up relatively quick after getting it. Now, the base unit can't fill the robot with mopping solution because my city water was too hard and it has restricted the filling valve. Robot routinely doesn't empty at the end of the cycle. Base doesn't seem to suck long enough and I have to end up manually emptying the dustbin. It's now strictly basement vacuum now and I wish I had never bought it considering it's original new price of over $1k.

Dreame L10s ultra certified refurb on eBay w/ 2 year warranty is the best value at $400 USD. Higher end features like hot water mop and dry, auto empty, dual spin mop and a camera for obstacle navigation. Dreame app is not as good as Roborock but it’s not bad either. Roborock Q8+ for around $400 is not bad either with some obstacle avoidance and electric fed mopping versus gravity fed (Q7). It’s just an older model at this point

As far as I can see the mops are spinning out not roller mops, which do clean the mops while mopping, for what it's worth. I have a LS10 ultra with spinning mops and it does a good enough job

I like these comparisons. Thankyou. I’m using the L10S ultra and happy with it for the time being but love seeing what’s ahead for us

I went with the Dreame L10s Ultra after stumbling across a review on "RedditRecs": [https://redditrecs.com/robot-vacuum/model/dreame-l10s-ultra/](https://redditrecs.com/robot-vacuum/model/dreame-l10s-ultra/) Been great so far.

I have the 10s ultra, I think? I flashed it with Valetudo.

I purchased a dreame l10ultra or something idk all i know is its overall cheaper than a cleaning lady and my stepson has horrible allergies and i cannot put a price on reducing the dust/hair/grime around the house to lessen his post nasal drip hacking by 1% 🤪 i kid…. I want him to be healthy and i love my cat. The cleaning robot helps both be true at the same time!

Highly recommended this if privacy is a concern for you. Go through valetudos list and find one that fits your needs, then wait for a sale. Personally I'm using a dreametech l10s ultra

We also have the L10s ultra and I'm a big fan. Overall the functionality is great and I love having one device for both vacuuming and mopping. My only complaint is that the interface in the app is clunky.

I just grabbed a refurb L10S ultra for $320. At that price I figure it’s worth a shot to see how it compares to my older T8+.

The L10S Ultra has got to be the value champion especially at the $320 refurb with 2 year warranty. But definitely seems like things cycle out quick.

I’ve had the dreame l10s ultra for about a year and a half and I love it. It was the newest model when I bought it, but they’ve introduced a few newer ones since. It had (at the time) all the same features that higher end ones had, but after a promo deal and coupon it was about 1/3 the price. I’ve also been able to upgrade some of the accessories on Amazon (or for a much better price if you’re willing to wait a bit aliexpress), like the anti-wrap roller that have worked like, well, a dream. I would recommend looking into the dreame brand robot vacuums if you’re looking for a good value.

Guys, the L10s ultra Dreame is $550 right now. That doesn’t seem very different from this one:  ‘dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 Robot Vacuum and Mop, 10,000Pa Suction, MopExtend Technology, All-in-One Base Station, Pet-Friendly, Versatile Carpet Cleaning, DuoScrub Mopping System, Smart Pathfinder Tech…’ Thoughts?

I briefly owned an s7 maxV and found it identified and avoided more obstacles than my L10s Ultra. The roborock pathing also seems more intelligent and would simply maneuver around the obstacle rather than having to look back three to four times to make sure it avoided the object(L10s U). Perhaps Dreame has come a long way, but I found the software and obstacle avoidance was far superior on the roborock.

The L10s Ultra was Dreame's flagship at the time and retailed for a little over $1k. It is a fair comparison given it was in the same league as the S7 maxV at release. Keep in mind that there are several versions of the L10 and you may be mistaking it with a model missing the sophisticated obstacle avoidance hardware. That said, I recall the QRevos have more in common with Dreame robots than the S7/8 maxV models(share parts with the Xiaomi brand). It's possible the S-tier received special treatment, which could explain why the S7 maxV behaved with more sentience

I bought the Dreame X40 Ultra. Same features, but cheaper. I also own a Q Revo and a Dreame L10S Ultra. The Q Revo has had a lot of issues in the year I've owned it. The L10S is still going strong, so the X40 was the obvious choice for me.

Get Certified Refurbished eBay. I grabbed an L10S Ultra for $240 and a qrevo for $330. Dreame and Roborock are the brands. Both units seem pretty much brand new. If you want the latest and greatest, you'll be spending $1.5K plus. Search for deals, as the eBay coupons are timing dependent.

I got it recently and am loving it!!

I have the dreame l10s ultra and will say for the price (under $500) it has been amazing. I’ve had it for a little over a year and use it often.

The value/performance ratio of the L10s Ultra is just so good. Every time I go look at the newer stuff from Dreame there's nothing really fundamentally better. They are all just iterations of the L10s Ultra with wildly higher price tags. The upcoming X50 Ultra with lifting wheels does look really cool, but I personally have no use case for it. The L10s Ultra mops and vacuums really well and is very cheap right now. Very hard to beat.

The Gen 2 is not supported by Valetudo, only the "regular" L10s Ultra.

Our L10s Ultra is awesome, however I don't think the obstacle avoidance is that great. In general, I think if people are expecting to never have to pick things up off the floor, then they will be disappointed. The kitchen is the only area that gets automatically cleaned every day. The rest I manually trigger after doing some prep like moving shoes and chairs. The lidar mapping is fantastic and the mopping is a game changer. Being able to automatically clean the kitchen every night after cooking has made such a huge difference in cleanliness. It's shocking how dirty the waste water always is.

Ecovacs is better, I guess. I heard it's good and reliable. After-sales won't be great with most of these brands. It's all about luck. And coming to the products, I bought Dreame - L10s Ultra in the last sale at a good discount, and it's doing well as of now.

You mentioned ECOVACS DEEBOT N30 Pro, right? it does have a water tank, na?. Mine was Just Ultra, not pro Ultra. The main difference between Ecovacs - Deebot N30 pro and Ultra is the Zero Tangle Brush and corner mopping, where the mop moves at corners. If you do mopping daily, then yes, the water tank is worth it. I've been using it for a week or so; so far it's good.

I read the same Wirecutter article and got a vacuum only (refurbished rooms j7+). It works great but I regretted not getting a mop combo for our main floor. So I got a dream L10s Ultra (also a refurbished eBay buy) and moved the rooms upstairs. I love it so far. Hoping the dreame holds up - but I think mopping has gotten far better than to used to be and think of it as “maintenance” not deep clean then it’s amazing.

The Dreame l10S is a good option. It's object avoidance is around as good as Eufy's but Eufy's will still be a bit better. Even at $1000+ there still isn't a robot vacuum that works perfectly yet.

Dreame l10S or l20 if you are trying to save money Dreame x30 if you have a little more money to spend Dreame X40/L40 if you want the best. If you only have hardfloors, the Eufy S1 pro I also like the QRevo Slim if you want something from Roborock but I am disappointed with its Object avoidance capabilities when compared to Dreame and Eufy. Roborock in general is quite trash at obstacle avoidance and it makes it hard for me to trust their vacuums to run on a schedule without having to babysit them but their hardware is solid and reliable. Skip the Eufy x10 that so many shills like. It's got a lot of features that look good but in reality they aren't very well implemented. I had two of them and Eufy partially refunded me for both of them due to my experience with them. Good customer support, but a bad vacuum design that struggles to pick up anything on hardfloors. For the same money I would get a Dreame l10S or L20 instead. I posted my full review here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/AVD9Ph2eHK

Return both and get a Dreame L10S certified refurbished: [https://www.ebay.com/str/dreameinnovation/Refurbished/\_i.html?store\_cat=48519196012&\_trksid=p4429486.m3561.l161211](https://www.ebay.com/str/dreameinnovation/Refurbished/_i.html?store_cat=48519196012&_trksid=p4429486.m3561.l161211) Dreame is running a sale right now and with the coupon code, the L10s is like $300 which is a steal. I have two certified refurbished X40s and they were practically brand new, no sign of previous use. Also comes with 2 year third party warranty so you don't have to deal with dreame's questionable warranty support team. Based on how much you get from returning the shark and roomba, you can get 2 L10s robots or maybe one x30/x40. The Dreame vacuums are far better for the money due to their advanced features like object avoidance and they have good vacuum performance. Roborock has good vacuum performance but severely lacks in the object avoidance realm. Eufy has good object avoidance but not so great vacuum performance. iRobot and Shark are in a tier below Dreame, Roborock and Eufy.

Thanks everyone for your advice, it was fantastic and helped me a great deal, we ended up jpicking up the Dreame l10s ultra, I had a budget for something higher, but that cleaner looks like it just works, has easy replacement parts to source, and I can 3d print a reusable bag for the station to help on going costs, and came with a free roller upgrade to boot! But again thanks so much for taking the time out and helping a first time buyer!

Hey thanks for that mate, were I'm located the Roborock just were not on discount. region locked on amazon, So I ended up just ordering a Dreame l10s ultra, it was such a good price for what looked like a good solid mid range unit that works. I almost went for the l10s pro ultra heat etc, but its a slippery slope, next moment heck a few more hundy and you can get this.... or a few more and this... So the Dreame l10s it is for us :) and it came with a free tri roller as well, Im guessing its worth installing that? thanks for taking the time to reply :)

Getba Dreame in that price range. They are perfectly fine, don't overpay for latest and fanciest features. Simple vac and mop for 500 € is doing the trick. E.g. Ls 10 Ultra

What is your budget? If it's $400 you should be able to find a ton of options between Roborock, Dreame and Eufy (I would only recommend these three). What are your requirements? Do you want mopping features? Without knowing your requirements it's hard to recommend. Another tip is to look at ebay refurbished models. These are basically new, 30-40% cheaper, and come with a two year warranty. No reason to be looking at Amazon unless it's sale season. If you care about mopping even a little bit then the Dreame L10s Ultra for $400 on ebay is the best option, bar none. If you don't care about mopping there are a ton of other models for even cheaper.

I'm happy with my Dreame L10s Ultra running Valetudo.

I have Dreame L10S Ultra also, and I'm really liking it. I ran it once with the original firmware to confirm it's working, and then went with the Valetudo.

So I echanged the x10 for an L10s ultra heat which just finished mapping my room, can confirm a better pickup in the salt test and fine sand near the doors from outside. Too soon for other opinions yet but this test was easy and clearly better. (Makes more noise on max suction too.)

I went with Dreame L10s Ultra. It had decent (but not the best) results on vacuumwars, for its price it was good tho. It is supported by Valetudo. Moreover, and it was very important for me, it has its debug port exposed so it is fairly easy to connect the vacuum to a PC for Valetudo flashing. It does not require disassembling the whole vacuum and all warranty seals stay intact. A custom made PCB is required for the easy flashing to work tho but the components were super cheap and I was comfortable with soldering the PCB. Valetudo was really important for me because today's robots are rolling survivalence cameras and there are many articles about camera footage leaking on the internet captured by these robots. I wasn't comfortable letting a camera rolling around the house like that. I have an Iot VPN but I cannot use that for these vacuums with factory firmware because then the app just won't work no matter which wifi my phone uses. The apps always phone home instead of using LAN. Except Valetudo. It can work like that.

Honestly, for ceramic tiles, I'd lean towards the Dreame L10S Ultra from your list. Had a decent run with it myself. It handles tile like a champ and sneaks under low chairs. Another winner could be the Roborock Qrevo S. For a broader look at these, ConsumerRating has some spot-on reviews to help you pick. Cheers.

Me too. I'm looking at, 1. Dreame l10s ultra. 2. Eufy c20 omni. 3. Mova E30.

That's going to be a tall order. Most robots with mops and automated maintenance start at around $700. I do see that Amazon US has the Eufy Omni C20 with a Prime-exclusive price of $449. Eufy has made robots in the past that have lasted a long time, and their support is better than most of the competition. The C20 has spinning mop pads and an auto-empty bin with mop washing and drying. Hair tangling may be an issue. Navigation is so-so, and obstacle avoidance is poor; it has LIDAR, but without the spinning turret common on most other robots, meaning that the robot has to stop often and spin in place to orient itself and detect obstacles. Another option might be the Dreame L10s Ultra; the first-generation version has an Amazon Prime-exclusive price of $499. It will be quite a bit better than the C20 with navigation and obstacle avoidance, and it's compatible with Dreame's tricut brush for hair removal (though that's sold separately, so an extra cost). Dreame doesn't yet have the track record for longevity that Eufy has, but the L10s Ultra specifically has a good reputation. You could give up automated mop management, meaning that you'd have to swap the mop in and out yourself, fill the water tank yourself, and wash the mop pad in the laundry every so often. Mops like this are also typically not very good. If you can do this, a few more options present themselves. The Roborock Q7 Max+ is $359 on Amazon US right now, and will perform similarly to the L10s in most ways other than mopping. Roborock is another brand that's been doing robots for a while and has a reputation for quality. Another option: the Eufy L60 Hybrid, which is $299 on Amazon US right this moment. (That price has been fluctuating quite a bit lately; it was about $350 at Best Buy a little while ago, but is also $299 there now.) The L60 is commonly recommended as a vacuum-only budget robot; the Hybrid adds a mop. See if one of those looks good to you. Be sure to look for independent reviews on each so you get an idea of each one's strengths and weaknesses. If you're not an Amazon Prime member, you might be able to find prices similar to the Prime-exclusive ones somewhere, or perhaps there are equivalent deals available where you live.

So an unknown brand just came out with a fairly pedestrian robot with stationary-pad mopping, and it has a higher rating than some of the highest-regarded robots on the market? Nope. If you really need mopping on a budget, take a look at the Dreame D10+, Eufy L60 Hybrid, or one of the Roborock Q series robots. For a big improvement in mopping for not much more money, look at the Eufy C20 or Dreame L10s Ultra series. Mova can be good, if they've solved their problem with fragile front wheels. If you don't care about mopping, look at the Eufy L60 SES or SwitchBot K10+.

The Dreame official solution says you can put it in the detergent tank and/or the clean water tank. The list instructions to do both.

Very happy with the Dreame L10s Ultra I bought last year for $630

I’ve had the Dreame L10S Ultra that I got off there for official eBay $490 for a full year now. Flashed it with Valetudo so it has 0 cloud communication and I absolutely love it. Integrates beautifully with HA, mops, vacuums, and auto-empty bin. Normally I’m the kind of person that always wants to buy the newest, shiniest piece of tech, but I’m really glad I bought this older model. It just works. Also I have 3 cats and it goes great with getting all the little fluff balls.

I ordered one off of Amazon UK. I'll give you a review here after a week or so. It is using something called point laser technogy. Some more details here: https://support.eufy.com/s/product/a08J1000000YA74IAG/eufy-omni-c20 Yet because of the slim design this was the ultimate choice for me to go underneath furniture. I was debating between this or Dreame L10s ultra, but some reviews were questioning Dreame's longevity.

Hey, I left a small review above. It is still going strong 2x a day. If you care more about size and low profile, while having most of the extras of a LiDAR vacuum I'd recommend it. I think it's on par with the Dreame L10 Ultra. The Dreame has better object avoidance, extra features such as the camera to chase your pet with it, while the C20 is smaller overall, can fit under your couch, has better suction power, and it will go through cables and small socks unfortunately.

Just got the ls10 ultra and love it for my situation. It cleans good and does everything I expect it to.

I bought a L10S Ultra last month for my wife. Works infinitely better than the old Roomba with just a bump sensor. I flashed Valetudo on it because IoT vendors are incompetent when it comes to security and I don't need any IoT device talking to the internet. I have mostly hard floor with a few area rugs. It vacuums and mops well, doesn't get stuck on dumb shit like the old one, and is significantly quieter and well. I have mine hooked into home assistant so I can automate cleaning when we're not home in addition to running on schedule. I don't have anything negative to say about it after about 45 days of ownership

YES. It is most definitely that bad. It’s bad on hard floors but god forbid you run it on a carpet. I have a video of it just plowing through fake dog poop on carpets. Edit: I have owned both the roomba j series and dreame l series, and both are so so much better.

Dreame l10s ultra; don’t go for Roborock unless you don’t care about obstacle avoidance.

I tested the roomba j series and the l series from dreame and both perfectly did the test

I tested the roomba j series and the l series from dreame and both perfectly did the test

Because both my Dreame L series and Roomba J series did the same test flawlessly

Make sure it can be used with Valetudo We have a l10s ultra and my wife loves that it’s one less house chore we worry about as it’s just a HA button now.

Umm mine does multi floors no problem, if you can install Valetudo you can install map loader. I have 4 different maps on mine. 2 for this house and another for a cabin

My Dreame L10S Ultra has only ever eaten black USB cords on dark carpets, which I think is reasonable as the only obstacle to cause it struggles. It's old though, there are newer models that I can't speak to. Check Valetudo compatibility list before buying, as it won't work for all of them (to my dismay, when I bought an L10 Ultra without the S by mistake)

Thanks for the comprehensive review. I have an L10S Ultra that I adore. I bought it refurbished directly from Dreame, and I just haven't seen any features that would compel me to upgrade....yet.

Sorry to say, but I’d steer clear of both if you want your parents to have a robot that is problem-free and hands-off. My first robot, found at a thrift store, is a Shark RV2001. We call it “Jaws” and overall, for a low tier robot vacmop, it does a good job. However, it needs constant attention and is pretty “dumb”. The Matrix is marginally better at mapping because of its lidar, but object avoidance is still mostly nonexistent for anything shorter than the robot. My recommendation: I recently upgraded to a factory refurbished Dreame L10S Ultra for $300 on eBay. Its features are on par with the Eufy X10 and Roborock QRevo S and I adore it. You should check out some videos about the Dreame L series. Truly remarkable machines. As others have suggested, consider returning these and getting something that will truly serve your parents.

Xiaomi X10+ / Dreame L10Ultra is great, it has everything. Dreame L10 Prime is probably the cheapest I have used, less features and for mopping it was OK. Roborock revos are great but usually costly. Roidmi Eva was pretty dumb robot avoid that.

I’ll 3rd the dreame L10s ultra. Got it from eBay spring sale couple weeks ago for $330 after tax and happy with it

Owned one for a few months now and it's absolutely value for money given it's features vs price right now compared to most other bots on the market.

Not a single new Roborock until they fix their new brushing system, the cleaning quality have dropped alot since S6/7. Atm dream Ultra seems to be the best choice if you got the money.

Yeah, according to those test I’ve seen. But you guys seems to have more alternatives, NARWAL is not an alternative here and eufy isnt something you link as a strong brand, more like a cheap alternative. But with that said, I havnt seen test of those 2 and can’t say if they are good or bad. Real reviews on youtube is the way to go to make sure.

I was in the same boat, but with Black Friday sales both the roborock qrevo (refurbished)and dreame l10s ultra (new) are available for $359. For that price it’s hard to justify spending 2-3x as much for a few extra features which don’t seem to make a huge difference in the actual functionality of the product. I bought a l10s ultra and hope to not think about it again for at least a couple years.

It really depends on your home, how much hard floor and carpet do you have? Of those three I’d probably go for the dreame or roborock, check out the reviews and top 20 list on the vacuum wars website or YouTube channel. He’s a mod on here too I believe.

You probably wouldn't be able to get anything to clean that whole space by itself. I have the L10s pro ultra heat and it has a way to hook up for auto fill and drain if you have a way to do that. I would say they could probably top out around 1000sq ft a charge since you're doing hard floors and mopping. You can set it to clean a specific area and have they go off in a relay so the whole area is covered. Dreame has some pretty cheap options that you might want to look into. The L10S ultra is around $400 on sale I believe and you can get a auto hookup I believe.

Great post — and totally agree on the mouthful names 😅 Since they’re similarly priced where you are, I’d lean Dreame L10s Ultra for the best balance: strong obstacle avoidance, decent mopping with detergent support, and solid app features. Qrevo S has great hardware but weaker AI. T20 Omni is decent, but Ecovacs tends to struggle more with software and mapping quirks. And yes — if your floors are mostly tile with one carpet, a robot vac *is* worth it, especially for daily maintenance.

# TLDR: Get the **L10s Pro** if it's within budget. If not, **D10 Plus** is the best bang for the buck **with a base**. Auto-empty is a game-changer in a dusty home. # Model Rundown: # ✅ L10s Pro * **Best cleaning performance** of the group (top-tier suction + obstacle avoidance) * **Does wet mopping well** with rotating pads * No base, but solid overall * **Best for large apartments** if you don’t mind emptying it manually # ✅ L10s (non-Pro) * Older, still solid * Has AI navigation and **comes with an auto-empty base** * Slightly weaker suction than Pro, less smart avoidance # ✅ D10s Pro * Decent suction and basic lidar nav * **No base** * Good for smaller or simpler homes — not ideal for large, dusty spaces unless you’re OK emptying it often # ✅ D10 Plus * Similar to D10s Pro but **comes with a base** * Very basic navigation (bumps into stuff sometimes), but **great value** for the price # Why the Base Matters (especially with dust): If your place gets dusty and you’re busy (or just hate emptying bins daily), the base makes life *so* much easier. You can go a couple of weeks without touching the robot. Totally worth it if that’s a pain point. # 🏆 Recommendation Based on Budget Priorities: * **Top pick overall**: L10s Pro (best clean + navigation, even without base) * **Best value with base**: D10 Plus * **All-around balance**: L10s (base + decent mopping) Let me know your price ceiling and I can tell you exactly what to grab and what to skip.

It can also clog he internal water tank / pump of the vacuum. Happened to my l10s ultra. Had to open it up and remove the residue. I used a non approved cleaning solution though 🙃

I have this one, too, and the Home Assistant integration is pretty good. I don't need to use the crappy Dreame app. 

I'd suggest the dreame L10s ultra. I bought a refurb back in august from dreame's eBay store. It was brandnew (or looked that way). Zero issues. two year replacement warranty from squartrade. in the top 20 on vacuumwar's best robots. Can't beat $300 for an $800 robot. I highly recommend.

I bought the Dreame L10s plus with 7000pa and then the Dreame L10s ultra with 5300Pa… there is a huge difference in the suction power. The 7000pa was cleaning much better. So yes there is a difference in my own experience

I’m also very confused. First I bought the Dreame L10s plus but after one week the robot was making very loud odd noise so I got my money back. Then I bought the Dreame L10s ultra, but that one has an issue with the water not getting into the robot. So the floor didn’t get wet. I got the money back for that one too. Now I don’t know which one to buy. For me I also looking for a robot that are good mobbing. I’m looking for: Not less than 5/6000 Pa Internal Water tank in the robot is very important for me And with mop-pad-wash and cleaning I’m looking at Dreame L10s ultra, Roborock Qrevo S or Xiaomi X20 pro/max - but not decided yet 🙃

The first one I bought was Dreame L10s plus. Without mop wash but 7000Pa for about 500 euro. (Got a error and I returned it) Then I bought the L10s ultra with mop wash, but with 5300Pa for the same price. But now the plus is on sale for 350 euro (I’m form Denmark) The plus model does vacuum better with the 7000Pa in my opinion. The mopping is almost the same in my experience. (The ultra got an error so I returned that to. i haven’t bought a new one yet 😅, because I’m confused which one to buy now) So it also matter off sale and price in you’re country, and there are so many models to choose from. All with different errors as well

I have two Dreams L10S Ultra’s and really like them. The main reason why I bought them is because it’s possible to put Valetudo https://valetudo.cloud on them.

That's where I got my L10s ultra like 5 months back, still running like a champion.

Same, great device and Valetudo is awesome

Love our Dreame L10s Ultra (one here, one for the in laws) flashed with Valetudo

I have dreame l10s ultra but other commenters have their own suggestions as well

I have dreame l10s ultra but other commenters have their own suggestions as well

The L10s ultra g2 is good and should meet all your needs. Be aware the reason these are being discounted is because newer models with roller mops are coming out soon so all the rotating mop versions are being phased out. Still the l10s has decent mopping. The obvious caveat is that one can never really tell unless you try it out yourself. All these robo vacuums have positives and weaknesses and one can’t say if it would be right for your home unless you actually try it. So I would suggest buying it from a place that has easy returns and try it for 2/3 weeks and see if it works for you.

Hands down L10s ultra, dont hesitate to get the refurbished ones on ebay

I just got mine and it’s amazing. The only thing that would be nice is the swing arm to get some better edge cleaning instead of it doing the little turn. Its mops don’t lift up high enough on medium length carpet but that seems to be fixed on newer ones.

We started with a cheap Eufy. Vacuum only. Very little intelligence. Was always blown away at how much fine dust it picked up. Would brag about it when people laughed. Just last week upgraded to a Dreame 10LS Mop/vac. Bloody awesome. 3 level house fully mapped with no go areas like our walk in shower. We have area rugs throught our hard wood floors and this thing does not skip a beat.

If I could choose I'd go with the Eufy pro Omni, but at home I've got the Dreame l10s ultra which is great, but not the best.

Yes, I do. We have at home the Dreame L10S, very powerful, friendly with our pet, we have a dog that shed a lot of hair and it cleans like a champ. I think that the best features that could work for you and your family is that it's very quiet while working around, in addition to its auto empty feature. It's really a very good option.

Do your pets shed a lot of hair ? I've had constant issues with the washboard being clogged with pets hairs in my L10s Ultra and having to clean the washboard constantly, so I'm thinking of upgrading to the X50. How is it in terms of clogging or pet hairs in the washboard after mopping ?

Do your dogs shed a lot of hair ? I've had constant issues with the washboard being clogged with pets hairs in my L10s Ultra and having to clean the washboard constantly, so I'm thinking of upgrading to the X50. How is it in terms of clogging or pet hairs in the washboard after mopping ?

I don't recommend Dreame if you use an Android phone. I bought an L10s last year. It was connecting at first but after a reset it wouldn't connect to my Pixel at all. It did seem to work with my mother's iPhone but that wouldn't be useful for me so I returned it. The other big thing was that when I went to leave a negative review due to all the frustration, the review never got posted. I was fair and simply stated that for me it didn't work well with Android. I rewrote and submitted a few times; there was always a review waiting period but it was never posted. The fact that most of the Chinese robot vacuums are rated so highly on Amazon, and the fact that these companies are connected to Xiaomi has left me very suspicious that the reviews are being manipulated or bought. Many of the YouTube reviews also seem paid without any declaration of being sponsored. In contrast, the reviews from Rtings or news sites were so much more critical. I don't want to support these type of shady companies so instead I bought a Shark which I have to try soon.

I'm between this and the dreame L10S Ugh

Ended up with Dreame

I love my Dreame L10S. They have higher end models but this was the most I wanted to shell out.

From what I’ve heard the mopping is more or less useless on the l60 whereas the dreame having the dual rotation mops would perform great if it’s anything like the other dreame’s. You could also buy the dreame tricut brush from AliExpress if the hair cutting tool that the l60 has is something you want.

Personally, I think the X40 is a better deal, but I've had good luck with the Dreame refurbs from the eBay official store. Just keep in mind, they usually come in a beat up box and the units are not always thoroughly cleaned either. One of my l10s models came with a smelly dirty water tank because whomever returned it, didn't bother to get all the water out.

Identify the features you want and go from there. Let the features drive the realistic price. For me that was Lidar, self-empty, mopping pads that spin and not just dragged behind. Those features ended up with me getting a Dreame L10s for around $700

Dreame L10s is what I have with 5 kids. I like it

I have the Dreambot L10s we don't have any tatami so I can't speak to that but I have had literally no complaints.

The firmware doesn’t change in terms of features. The cloud gets replaced by valetudo locally. You can also get one and never hook it up to WiFi. I operated my dreams L10s for about two months by just pressing buttons before I rooted it.

No clue. Never used the first party app. I bought it, operated it without WiFi using the buttons for a while, the rooted it and connected it. This is the suggested way. No initial WiFi prevents enforced updates potentially closing the rooting option.

I will 2nd the dreame L 10. I’m fucking amazed at how well it works. We have two dogs and three cats and my wife back moved, prior to buy a mess, daily as well as mopped a couple to few times a week. We wake up every morning with gorgeous clean floors. Like I said, I’m truly amazed. Recent cleaning https://i.imgur.com/BXWtZEn.png

L10 can clean 20m2 in 19 mins in real world use, L20 with more technical cleaning pushed that up to 29 mins, The L40 with the best cleaning and mop extras etc is 36 mins. The x40..... Same setup as the other 3.....47minutes and it doesn't to as good a job as the L10v2..... I'm just giving honest reviewing! I was very surprised the L40 smashed the x40!

For crevices, you need a robot with a bristle main brush. Dreame L series and Mova usually use rubber brushes, which, according to reviewers on YT, don't pick up dust in crevices well unlike bristle ones. Some Roborock model like Q5 Pro, Q8 Max, Qrevo S, and QV35A/S also uses a similar brush. I think if you don't mind with prices, E28 or E25 is a good candidate because its roller mop is superior. Roborock also has a new lineup called S5A which is the cheaper version of Qrevo Edge. Now it's $899 on Amazon. S5A uses a similar Duo Divide split brush as in Qrevo Edge and Eufy E28, a self-empty station, and obstacle avoidance but only using structured light without a live camera.

I've got a dreamtech which has self cleaning mops and it does pretty good. I've also got 2 kids and toys all over the floor and it barely gets stuck.

The Dreame robot mop system is our favorite new roommate! We have a new and an older iRobot Roomba vacuums and recently got this one for the main floor. We're very happy with it. It's available in many different price ranges.