Dreame - L10s Ultra Gen 2

I Have the same and it is easy of you Have HACS installed. From there install the "Dreame Vacuum" Integration (Beta version) and the L10s Ultra Gen2 is recognized.

We are really enjoying our Dreame L10s Ultra Gen2. Bought it in the sale. My girlfriend was sceptical and called me crazy for buying it but since we have it it is running through our house every other day. We almost havent touched our normal vacuum since it arrived. It mop and, it cleans itself. The only thing you have to do is refill the water tank, remove the dirty water (and the water gets dirty) and replace the dirt bag in the station once every while.

If you can wait, the Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 is $699 with a coupon right now but has dropped to $599 before. That's a much better robot with better suction, obstacle avoidance, battery life, edge mopping, and probably app experience. The T20 does have hot mop washing while the Dreame doesn't. However, the T20 also does not have an onboard water tank, meaning it must repeatedly return to the dock to wet the mops. Also, when you say "fill itself" I assume you don't mean plumbing, since all of these robots will need the water tanks changed manually.

Nooooo that's the basic L10 Ultra without the "s" or the Gen 2. That would have the same horrible obstacle avoidance as the T20, and it also doesn't have mop extend for edge cleaning. Not sure how the vacuuming power compares in real world, but on paper the L10 Ultra is slightly worse than the T20. The L10 Ultra will have an onboard tank, but again the T20 features hot water mop washing. I think the L10 Ultra would be a better choice if you need to mop a large area.

I just got the Dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2, I think all of the Dreame robots have a rubber brush instead of hard plastic with bristles, and it seems to handle things well! I don’t have much long hair here anymore but I have two cats that leave fur everywhere It also caught an iPhone cable that my son left on the floor, got totally wrapped up but when I pulled on one end it just came right out, didn’t tangle at all. Also apparently Dreame has a special brush with some bits to stop hair from getting caught, I don’t know how well it works though.

The Mova P10 pro ultra is the best bot for the money. If you can swing the price, it's the one to get. The Dreame L10S Ultra gen 2 [can be found on eBay for $350](https://ebay.us/m/iTkvvP) at the moment, which I personally think edges out the Mova in value. However you will lose the hot water mop washing, extending side brush, self-cleaning dock, improved obstacle avoidance, and remote camera viewing features of the Mova. (Mova is a sub-brand of Dreame, btw)

Hey there. X20 Max owner. I was considering the Xiaomi models and the X20 Max is a step up in terms of cleaning performance compared to the X20+. Also, hot wash mops and drying saves a lot of time cleaning and maintaining with the station. A robot vacuum is intended to last anywhere between 3 to 5 years, so it’s worthwhile to invest in some additional features you’ll appreciate later on. You might want to check out Dreame L10s ultra pro as well. Similar to the X20 Max, with additional cleaning customisations and a RGB camera (you can watch over the corgis when you’re away haha) Both Dreame and X20 Max allow scheduled cleaning (based on time). You could also tie it up with a Xiaomi home camera and set up instructions to clean when it detects no one in the house after X mins. Both models have tonnes of 3rd party accessories, so you’ll never have to worry about finding replacements. Just make sure you get a good tricut brush for the hairs. Hope you find a good deal. Best of luck.

Oh man. No brainer. Go for it, L10s Ultra gen 2 for the win haha. I think you’ll lose out on the hot washing mops, a feature I really appreciate. But users have survived without it :)

I could be wrong. It just didn’t appear in its feature list https://www.dreametech.com/products/l10s-ultra-gen-2-robot-vacuum?srsltid=AfmBOooSWTYq6jZHsm6-Xwq0rCh2OqtSOfxdUkUfDS85a3trppoun57A Still would buy it!

If you’re an Amazon Prime member, you should look out for the Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 @ $499. Does well with transitions between rug and hard flooring, with good mop raising clearance. Tassels are tough, so might need to tuck them in for the RV to not grab them. You can buy a lot of 3rd party accessories for it (mop pads, tricut brush - for better hair cutting performance) Only seen great results with mopping and vacuuming. Its obstacle avoidance is pretty good as well (at that price point)

Went with a dreame L10s ultra gen 2 for £479

Unfortunately, all the models that are good with dealing with hair and are good at mopping do require dust bags. The official ones are cheap to buy on AliExpress or Taobao. The roborock Q Revo Curv/Edge was mentioned here but as it is not available in the Australian market and the fact that it will be priced beyond your budget, I do not recommend it. As such, I’d recommend the Dreame L10S Ultra as it is the only one that can deal with long dog hair at this budget. People have said fur and hair can go to the sides but this is an easily avoided problem if you buy the accompanying brush cover that prevents it from doing so. If you’re okay with cleaning fur from the sides for better carpet cleaning, you could also consider the roborock s8 pro ultra for its double rollers. I do not recommend ecovacs for several reasons. I remember a Korean user at a net cafe complained about how their much more expensive ecovacs model that was recently released failed to pick up loose fur balls even when their much cheaper Xiaomi model could.

There are much better robots you can buy at the same price or lower. There is the dreame x40 ultra for £1099 which will greatly outperform the deebot x5 pro. It has hot water mop cleaning, tangle free vacuuming with the TriCut brush, and good mopping. Dreame robots have the best edge cleaning out of all the brands. There is the dreame l40 ultra for £849, a much better deal as it is essentially the same as the Dreame x40 ultra except for battery life. Since you didn’t mention having a pet, I think the best value choice is the dreame L10s ultra Gen 2 (£549). Also tangle free vacuuming with the TriCut brush, strong all-around performance, but no hot water mop washing. Just take care of your cables and it’ll do well.

The Dreame L10S Ultra Gen2 would be a good choice especially with the TriCut brush.

If the Dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2 is cheaper, I’d go for it over the X20+ as it’s much more feature rich. It can also use the antitangle TriCut brush.

Do note you will have to clear out any tangles on the side of the brush from time to time. I recommend buying an officially refurbished dreame model L10 something model as you can use the TriCut brush and the self driven self cleaning mop washing tray with it.

below 700 USD would be the Dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2 (8990000 Rp). This is what I’d recommend if you’re on a strict budget. If you want a rather smart one that can decide if certain areas need to be mopped or vacuumed again, I’d choose the L30S Ultra 11,790,000 Rp, which seems to be just slightly above your budget. Both robots have good mapping and navigation.

The Dreame L40s Pro Ultra (£799) will be the best budget premium robot vacuum in the UK, as it is essentially an X50 Ultra, if you don't need the threshold-crossing ability or the retracting LIDAR, while being cheaper than the X40 Ultra. Everything else will be the same. It'll have the best self-cleaning ability at the best price due to the AceClean dryboard, which cleans itself much better than the Dreame X/L40 Ultra and the self-cleaning filter in the dustbin (works best if you set it to vacuum first before mopping, as mud won't be in the filter). It's also great for homes with pets that are heavy shedders, as it also has a live fur compression feature that compresses the fur in the dustbin as it vacuums to make the best use of the dustbin's space and mitigates the issue of the dustbin being clogged yet having space on the sides, something only available on the L50 Ultra and the X50 Ultra. It'll pick up fur and hair from carpets better than the Tricut brush, as it has dual rollers. I really liked how it was able to mark my furniture as something it could get stuck on and smartly cleaned around it, instead of trying to climb my coffee table with U-legs, something my LDS-only robot couldn't do (it tried humping it instead). The best budget option will be the [Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2](https://dreamestore.co.uk/products/dreame-l10s-ultra-gen-2-robot-vacuum-and-mop-with-self-cleaning-and-auto-empty). Due to the lack of an RGB camera, the obstacle avoidance won't be as good and wouldn't be as good at self-cleaning compared to the L40s Pro Ultra. If you want it to deal well with pet hair, you'll need to purchase the Tricut brush as well. For the Xiaomi robots, the X20 Pro is a good choice, but obstacle avoidance is the same as the Dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2, and it cannot extend and swing its mop (MopSwing is on for the L10S Ultra Gen 2 in some purchasing regions) like the above choices. It is also compatible with the TriCut brush if needed.

I’d choose the dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2. Should have better mop extend algorithm and detergent tank helps with washing mops. TriCut brush + TriCut brush cover is great. You’d only have to untangle hair stuck on the side brush. There is also more smart customization in the Dreame app than Xiaomi’s app.

Not as good as the L10S Ultra Gen 2

MOVA P10 Ultra and dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2 has LDS sensors only. The MOVA P10 Pro Ultra and the x40 ultra has an RGB camera and LDS sensors. These will do better for obstacle avoidance~

Any pets or long hair? The Dreame L10S Ultra's compatibility with the anti-tangle tricut brush would be better suited. A robot vacuum is worth it if you want something to do basic general upkeep of your floors.

Dreame’s L10S Pro Ultra Gen 2 can use the antitangle TriCut brush. It has worked perfectly for my long haired corgi that sheds so much. A small amount of fur will collect on the sides of brushes if you don’t use the correct brush cover which prevents this from happening. For the QRevo S, the all rubber brush works well at resisting tangles with fur collecting on the sides but as soon as there’s a cut on the rubber, it’ll easily tangle (same for Dreame’s all rubber brush). I think both robots have an easy to clean completely removable mop pad cleaning tray. https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/AgXP4k48pP There’s also the L40 Ultra at 399 in the US but not in Amazon.

Xiaomi X20+ is better for homes <50sqm because there’s no onboard water tank. I’d get Dreame’s L10S Pro Ultra Gen 2 because it has much more features that work compared to the other robots in this price range. Ecovacs’ T50 Pro Omni has navigation issues due to an embedded lidar and obstacle avoidance issues because it has an RGB camera but no led fill light for dark environments. It can also only map up to 100sqm which wouldn’t be suitable for larger homes.

I snagged myself a dreame l10s ultra gen 2 for that price, been vacuuming everyday and mopping two times a week for a couple of weeks now. Hard tiled floors with one carpet, worked flawlessly so far.

I got my gen 2 about a week ago, so I still dont have the full picture, but I think the weakest part so far of the robot is navigating and cleaning near carpets. It tends to act a bit confused and it is not 100% effective. Maybe it is some setting that is not correct in the app, for instance it is difficult to edit carpets in the app. But other than that it works fine. But we also only have 2 carpets at home, so it is not a big deal right now.

We have that one. It's good.

I have to disagree. Our L10s Ultra Gen 2 is a carpet champ. It even leaves the nice just-vacuumed tracks. We retired our Dyson cylinder corded because we don't need it anymore. That said, the performance in the video doesn't look good at all.

I did the exact same about 3 months ago for my dad. I got him dreame l10 ultra gen 2 and not once has he had to save it or get involved. It's been brilliant. I have it on schedule 3 days per week and it works a treat, it vacs and mops and has the dock, so it auto emptys itself so there is 0 effort maintaining it. I'd recommend it. When I visit I just do a quick check and clean the dock area and I knows it's good to go. I have the dreame l20 ultra also for the past year and it's been the same, flawless. I also love that you can share your robot with someone else, so I can keep an eye on things remotely for him.

Honestly, for ceramic tiles, I'd lean towards the Dreame L10S Ultra from your list. Had a decent run with it myself. It handles tile like a champ and sneaks under low chairs. Another winner could be the Roborock Qrevo S. For a broader look at these, ConsumerRating has some spot-on reviews to help you pick. Cheers.

I've used the Dreame L40s Pro Ultra for a while, and I agree it's a solid choice for what you're seeking, especially with the AceClean dryboard feature. It does an excellent job with pet hair and tackles hardwood floors effectively. You might also want to consider the Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 if the budget is tighter; it's slightly less refined without the RGB camera but still performs well. For even more in-depth insights on robot vacuums, ConsumerRating has some great comparisons and reviews that might help tailor your decision to your needs.

As the poster above mentioned, most of them don't have cameras for object detection. I think bellow 600€ there is only a limited number available. Some ecovac Modells have a camera, I think the t30c “pro" is sometimes available for 599€ in sales and has a camera object detection. And I think only the Dreame l10s ultra heat has camera object detection (and the old l10s ultra). The new l10s ultra gen2 models have not. But then I often read that the camera doesn't always make a better detection. In terms of features I suggest the (dreame) mova p50 ultra, which had much more features as most other models and is available for 579€, the p50 pro ultra has ai camera, too, but is 729€ (which is unbeatable for its features). So mova is a dreame daughter and they often even work in the dreamer App, but they are always packing much more features than the more expensive dreame versions. But be aware: many manufacturers offer "ultra", "pro" or "pro ultra" versions (sometimes “pro ultra Omni) and often the "ultra" or "pro" versions only have laser object detection, with any manufacturer, so you normally need the "pro ultra" version to get ai camera obstacle avoidance. But still, often it doesn't make too much of a difference, nearly every robot still has problems detecting everything.

The mova e30 is cheap, but has no hot water and hot air drying and no extendable mop and no RGB camera for object avoidance - the same with eufy c20. The dreame l10s ultra has extendable mop and hot air drying and the old version, same as the heat version have ai RGB camera object avoidance, BUT be aware that the new l10s ultra gen2, is cheaper but is missing the camera for obstacle avoidance.

I have the same with the HACS integration which works very well. It can also be reflashed with Valetudo to go completely offline in case they discontinue the cloud service

Me too. I'm looking at, 1. Dreame l10s ultra. 2. Eufy c20 omni. 3. Mova E30.

I ordered the l10s ultra gen2

Dreame l10s ultra gen 2. Got it for ~$600 on German Amazon.

I have this one it works great

I have a DreameL10 ultra gen 2, bought on sale for €460 euros some months ago. I preferred it to the Dreame X40 (it was 800 and I didn’t seem to justify how more expensive it was, given how much the price goes down in a year). Did I make a mistake? Does it really change SO much compared to the now high end ones? My idea was using this for some years, and hopefully get one for the same price or a bit more expensive in the future, if the technology really advances. Any random thoughts on it? Edit: no kids, no pets, just a lot of cooking

In general, you want a LIDAR combo robot with spinning mop pads from one of the reputable brands: Roborock, Dreame/Mova, or Eufy. Ecovacs/Yeedi would be included in this list, except they haven't been doing as well with their more recent releases. The Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 has good reviews, and its predecessor was one of the best robots of the past few years. Be sure to buy it from an authorized vendor with no-hassle returns; if you get a faulty unit, support for most of those brands can be poor. I'd avoid ordering directly from the manufacturer for that reason. Eufy will likely have the best support, but even they mess up occasionally.

That's going to be a tall order. Most robots with mops and automated maintenance start at around $700. I do see that Amazon US has the Eufy Omni C20 with a Prime-exclusive price of $449. Eufy has made robots in the past that have lasted a long time, and their support is better than most of the competition. The C20 has spinning mop pads and an auto-empty bin with mop washing and drying. Hair tangling may be an issue. Navigation is so-so, and obstacle avoidance is poor; it has LIDAR, but without the spinning turret common on most other robots, meaning that the robot has to stop often and spin in place to orient itself and detect obstacles. Another option might be the Dreame L10s Ultra; the first-generation version has an Amazon Prime-exclusive price of $499. It will be quite a bit better than the C20 with navigation and obstacle avoidance, and it's compatible with Dreame's tricut brush for hair removal (though that's sold separately, so an extra cost). Dreame doesn't yet have the track record for longevity that Eufy has, but the L10s Ultra specifically has a good reputation. You could give up automated mop management, meaning that you'd have to swap the mop in and out yourself, fill the water tank yourself, and wash the mop pad in the laundry every so often. Mops like this are also typically not very good. If you can do this, a few more options present themselves. The Roborock Q7 Max+ is $359 on Amazon US right now, and will perform similarly to the L10s in most ways other than mopping. Roborock is another brand that's been doing robots for a while and has a reputation for quality. Another option: the Eufy L60 Hybrid, which is $299 on Amazon US right this moment. (That price has been fluctuating quite a bit lately; it was about $350 at Best Buy a little while ago, but is also $299 there now.) The L60 is commonly recommended as a vacuum-only budget robot; the Hybrid adds a mop. See if one of those looks good to you. Be sure to look for independent reviews on each so you get an idea of each one's strengths and weaknesses. If you're not an Amazon Prime member, you might be able to find prices similar to the Prime-exclusive ones somewhere, or perhaps there are equivalent deals available where you live.

Hey. Incredible timing on your question. I got the Xiaomi X20 Max. I was happy with it for a few months, until it started acting weird, couldn’t find back to base, would not listen to instructions etc. So, 4 months later (last week), I contacted Amazon and was able to return it for a full refund. Although I wanted the l40 ultra, which is at a great price right now, I got the Dreame l10s Ultra Gen 2 instead, also at a great price. I got to say I’m SUPER happy with how Amazon handled this and that’s also why I got the Dreame from them. Are you looking at these above specifically or anyone else you are considering? Happy to help you navigate.

I did look at that one and looked really good on paper but it’s above budget priced originally at 9990 but on sale for 7990 SEK, which is the lowest price it’s been at.

Just got the ls10 ultra and love it for my situation. It cleans good and does everything I expect it to.

I got the dreame ls10 ultra gen 2 for 350

Their site. Just went and looked and their sale percentages have changed. So must have been having better sales a few months ago.

I’m happy with my Dreame L10S Ultra (gen2). It’s not integrated with Home Assistant though, does not seem to be an easy setup to integrate it although possible.

I have tested this integration already, and I’m only using the Dreame app (Not the Xiaomi app that this integration asks for)

So I bought a Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2. And when I used it for a while and was happy with it, I bought another one for upstairs.

Dreame L10S Ultra Gen2 is an great choice! I have 2, one for each floor. If you have pets or people either long hair, get an additional Tricut brush from AliExpress and you’re set!

I know it’s not on the original list, but I bought the Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 for £400 and it is amazing considering the price I paid. It may not have the advanced features of the L40/X40 like extending brush, mop detach, better obstacle detection, cleaning detection etc but for me it vacuums well, mops well, and the object detection is pretty good. Overall, I am pleased with my purchase and feel I have got a lot of features for my money.

Hey — good question. Honestly, Dreame handles carpets a bit better than some earlier Xiaomi models (especially when comparing to S20+), but you’re not totally wrong that long hair / shag carpets still trip up most robot vacuums sometimes. For L10s Ultra Gen 2: * On *low to medium pile carpets*, it's quite consistent and follows straight lines better. * On *high pile or long hair carpets*, it can sometimes hesitate or hunt for a clean path like you're describing — especially if the fibers confuse the obstacle sensors or trigger extra lift adjustments. * One trick: using the map divide tool (like syunz mentioned) to isolate carpets as a separate custom room can sometimes help tighten up navigation passes. * If your carpets are unusually thick, none of the Dreame models will be flawless, but Gen 2 is definitely more stable than Gen 1 or Xiaomi S-series. If you share the carpet height/type I can also give a better idea where L10s Gen 2 might shine (or struggle).

Hey — honestly both are excellent, but a lot depends on how much you want to future-proof. For your 200 m² house: * **L10s Ultra Gen 2** will definitely handle the size no problem, solid mopping, and you’re already getting hot water mop washing which is a huge step up from the original L10s Ultra. * **X40** gets you more AI avoidance, better edge cleaning, more flexible mop lifting, and smarter route planning — it does a bit better avoiding cables, socks, etc. And yes, it tends to track with floor lines better because of the newer pathing. If you’re mostly worried about "is the $330 difference worth it" — in a big space like yours, the X40’s better object avoidance and slightly faster clean times *do* start to add up over time. But the Gen 2 is still a very, very strong value. TLDR: If budget’s flexible, go X40. If you want the best price/performance combo, L10s Ultra Gen 2 is already great.

Great post — and totally agree on the mouthful names 😅 Since they’re similarly priced where you are, I’d lean Dreame L10s Ultra for the best balance: strong obstacle avoidance, decent mopping with detergent support, and solid app features. Qrevo S has great hardware but weaker AI. T20 Omni is decent, but Ecovacs tends to struggle more with software and mapping quirks. And yes — if your floors are mostly tile with one carpet, a robot vac *is* worth it, especially for daily maintenance.

Get the dreame Honestly. I had an ecovacs model from 3 years ago, you can see the progress. It's a no brainer for the money Only small downside is it struggles with cables, everything else your fine. Mops great Get one and come back to me if you don't like it I will offer no refund

Yup, and with the Xiaomi vacuum card HACS extension it's perfect 👌

I only have low pile carpets and I haven't had a problem with it. The only minor issue is that I needed to create a custom "room" for one carpet as it was placed diagonally to the map. Also when mopping between rooms there's going to be some overlap on the edges and mops the carpet, to prevent this you can place a virtual wall leaving just a small opening and then it will make the robot respect the edge.

If you have carpets that are diagonal to the map or awkwardly shaped you need to create a custom room using the divide map to match the shape of the carpets you have. The current dreame app only supports rectangular carpets.

The L10s ultra g2 is good and should meet all your needs. Be aware the reason these are being discounted is because newer models with roller mops are coming out soon so all the rotating mop versions are being phased out. Still the l10s has decent mopping. The obvious caveat is that one can never really tell unless you try it out yourself. All these robo vacuums have positives and weaknesses and one can’t say if it would be right for your home unless you actually try it. So I would suggest buying it from a place that has easy returns and try it for 2/3 weeks and see if it works for you.

Last month my family bought this [dreame L10s Ultra](https://amzn.to/3DS21Lu) for Christmas and so far it's been doing an excellent job at home, cleaning the carpets and the hardwood floors like a champ. We have a golden retriever dog, her name's Maroma, she use to shed tons of hair but after we got this robot vacuum we'd forgotten about this trouble, In addition to being super friendly with our dog, it avoids her like it is an obstacle.

I've been reviewing several lately and one that continues to stand out for me is my L10S Gen2. It's just unapologetically good. In my stats page, it has done 14915 square feet and 3160 minutes of total cleaning with 296 cycles. Not a single hiccup except for my sons black shoelace that was under his desk .

I originally had issues with my X40 and since firmware 1543, it's amazing. Here are my stats (run times etc) as I own and review too many robot vacuums. These are just my Dreame ones though. L10s Gen2: 17021 Sqft --- 3449 minutes run time --- 317 cycles. No issues L20: 16934 Sqft ---- 3737 minutes run time --- 208 cycles. No issues. X40 (newer less runs): 1808 Sqft --- 359 minutes run time ---- 26 cycles

My x50 is great!! 😊 best robot vac I’ve ever invested in. Owner for a 4 months but it’s suction and mopping ability really help maintain home cleanliness and we love all the app featrues. I still use a cord less z20 when I need to do more deep carpet cleaning. Also places the bot can’t go I do need to grab my z20 to do places that robot just can’t go. Upgraded from a L10sgen2 which was great for about 4yrs. We almost bought the x40 ultra but really wanted that extra suction and dual detangle brush.

I will 2nd the dreame L 10. I’m fucking amazed at how well it works. We have two dogs and three cats and my wife back moved, prior to buy a mess, daily as well as mopped a couple to few times a week. We wake up every morning with gorgeous clean floors. Like I said, I’m truly amazed. Recent cleaning https://i.imgur.com/BXWtZEn.png

I just bought a L 10 second generation and I’m blown away.

I have the **L10S Pro Gen 2** and it has exceeded my expectations. I figured that I didn't need the sophisticated base station and I was right. Besides, those stations bring more potential breaking points. Simply cleaning the pads and emptying the bagless dust bin takes 1 minute. I have it hooked with Home Assistant, everything works perfectly.

I don’t understand what is compelling you (& others) to disagree here. Dreame devices and rotating mop heads apply only enough pressure to really wipe something down (not scrub), the warranty is voided if you use cleaner in them, and they in no way disinfect or disappear bacteria. like I’m glad your floors look sparkling, mine do, too (the L10s second gen, the one I chose, has upgraded features and a stronger motor compared to the L20…that is, before it gave up on doing anything) but they are not actually clean lol

i just got my L10s pro gen 2 (no self-washing base) on prime day and I’m stoked about it. the vacuum picked up an ton, I’ve been forced to tidy to use it (lol) and my floors are notably clean. It’s fun to watch and pretty quiet so far. Entertains my cat. It’s having a hard time climbing up on one small rug so I just blocked it off since that one’s not important to me. has kinda gotten stuck in a thought loop beside that area so I have to troubleshoot a little. I had originally thought the machine itself had both a clean and dirty tank to suction gross water but it does not, so for these initial catch-up mop sessions I am taking out and rinsing the mop pads a couple times per session. I am mobile/comfy with that, don’t really find it to be too much of an inconvenience to clean? Especially when the manual mop cleaning is just once at the end. I figure as an entryway to robo vac/mop world, the L10s pro gen2 makes a ton of sense for me: - under-$450 CAD prime day price tag (compared to current $1400 price tag for the ultra) - 40% stronger suction power compared to other L10s - saving on so so much plastic waste on a non-BIFL item - limited apartment space required compared to the base on the self-cleaning model I’m excited to someday invest in a more advanced model or system when the technology has advanced (hopefully 5-10 years from now) but rn the L10s is crushing it

Dreame gen2 is better ;)

We have a L10s Ultra and after 3 years it doesn't mop properly anymore. There does not come enough water out of the vacuum. It mops dry. We took it to our local dealer and they looked into it and couldn't fix the problem. Would not recommend it. Such an expansive tool should work longer.

I received a Dreame L10s ultra for Christmas. It has been an amazing experience so far! Highly recommend

Experience with 2 vacuums: I was using Mi robot (forgot model name; bought for 20k in 2020). It was a basic model with vacuum and mop functions. Worked okay, mopping was pretty ineffective if there are any hard stains. After a few years, battery life went down and mapping function also got impaired after we changed houses. Overall, 6/10. Recently bought Dreame L10s ultra. They needed some form filling to be done to get a demo person, which my mom couldn’t do, so by the time I did and by the time the service person came (1 week after filling form), return/exchange window was closed. The person discovered that the machine had faulty power button, and since I cannot return via Amazon, he asked us to send to service centre. They took a good 10-11 days to return the machine. Then the service person came, did demo, and we finally started using it 1 month after purchase. Although the initial service made us question the ROI, the machine itself is a dream indeed. My mom remarked that her slippers are squeaking on the floor because the machine did an excellent job at mopping. She manually swept the rooms today and said there was no dust and did the sweeping only for namesake. We also marked my grandfather’s room as a no-go zone and the machine does not go there. Overall, I am happy with this investment.

I’ve got a dreame L10s ultra and would never get one again.

The velcro on the mop mechanism got clogged up relatively quick after getting it. Now, the base unit can't fill the robot with mopping solution because my city water was too hard and it has restricted the filling valve. Robot routinely doesn't empty at the end of the cycle. Base doesn't seem to suck long enough and I have to end up manually emptying the dustbin. It's now strictly basement vacuum now and I wish I had never bought it considering it's original new price of over $1k.

L10 ultra owner here, well I got rid of it, in 1 year it started falling apart. Was unable get water from the dock, then eventually vacuum stopped, went back to Roborock. They are also not super durable but way better than dreame, not touching dreame again.

Dreame L10s ultra certified refurb on eBay w/ 2 year warranty is the best value at $400 USD. Higher end features like hot water mop and dry, auto empty, dual spin mop and a camera for obstacle navigation. Dreame app is not as good as Roborock but it’s not bad either. Roborock Q8+ for around $400 is not bad either with some obstacle avoidance and electric fed mopping versus gravity fed (Q7). It’s just an older model at this point

As far as I can see the mops are spinning out not roller mops, which do clean the mops while mopping, for what it's worth. I have a LS10 ultra with spinning mops and it does a good enough job

I have the 10s ultra, I think? I flashed it with Valetudo.

I don't have pets but my long hair is a menace. I love my Dreame L10s ultra - it's amazing on all hard floors with very minimal maintenance, and it's probably the least expensive robovac/mopper in its class. It frequently sells at $650 with a 10% welcome coupon on the manufacturer's site. People are also high on Eufy S1 Pro, especially for mopping, but it's nearly 3x the price and the discounts are not going to be great since it's a hyped new release due to its rolling self-cleaning mop. I would go for it if it's in your budget.

I purchased a dreame l10ultra or something idk all i know is its overall cheaper than a cleaning lady and my stepson has horrible allergies and i cannot put a price on reducing the dust/hair/grime around the house to lessen his post nasal drip hacking by 1% 🤪 i kid…. I want him to be healthy and i love my cat. The cleaning robot helps both be true at the same time!

My Dreams L10s Ultra does have a lot of issues like mop pads constantly falling off, spinning in circles forever, failing to recognize wires and getting tangled. Even though it has a lot of problems, it is still much less than the several iRobot Roomba and Braava that I’ve owned. Those can’t even do the basics like climb over floor dividers. They get stuck way more often.

Highly recommended this if privacy is a concern for you. Go through valetudos list and find one that fits your needs, then wait for a sale. Personally I'm using a dreametech l10s ultra

We also have the L10s ultra and I'm a big fan. Overall the functionality is great and I love having one device for both vacuuming and mopping. My only complaint is that the interface in the app is clunky.

I have a Dreame L10s Ultra for my 550 sq ft apartment. I wanted something with a good mop. Vacuuming the normal way? Not too bad. But mopping too? Nah I hate that shit. On my app it cleans and mops about 300 sq ft. Have had no complaints. If you just want a robovac than I’m sure there are cheaper options.

My Dreame L10s Ultra that I got refurb on eBay for $400 has been pretty solid for tbh. For that price it is a great value. Objectively avoidance has been great. Has gotten caught on charger once or twice but that’s it. The mopping performance with the rotating mops has been pretty good. I have it scheduled to clean every afternoon while I’m work. It’s great for that to maintain my small apartment.

I just grabbed a refurb L10S ultra for $320. At that price I figure it’s worth a shot to see how it compares to my older T8+.

The L10S Ultra has got to be the value champion especially at the $320 refurb with 2 year warranty. But definitely seems like things cycle out quick.

I’ve had the dreame l10s ultra for about a year and a half and I love it. It was the newest model when I bought it, but they’ve introduced a few newer ones since. It had (at the time) all the same features that higher end ones had, but after a promo deal and coupon it was about 1/3 the price. I’ve also been able to upgrade some of the accessories on Amazon (or for a much better price if you’re willing to wait a bit aliexpress), like the anti-wrap roller that have worked like, well, a dream. I would recommend looking into the dreame brand robot vacuums if you’re looking for a good value.

Guys, the L10s ultra Dreame is $550 right now. That doesn’t seem very different from this one:  ‘dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 Robot Vacuum and Mop, 10,000Pa Suction, MopExtend Technology, All-in-One Base Station, Pet-Friendly, Versatile Carpet Cleaning, DuoScrub Mopping System, Smart Pathfinder Tech…’ Thoughts?

I briefly owned an s7 maxV and found it identified and avoided more obstacles than my L10s Ultra. The roborock pathing also seems more intelligent and would simply maneuver around the obstacle rather than having to look back three to four times to make sure it avoided the object(L10s U). Perhaps Dreame has come a long way, but I found the software and obstacle avoidance was far superior on the roborock.

The L10s Ultra was Dreame's flagship at the time and retailed for a little over $1k. It is a fair comparison given it was in the same league as the S7 maxV at release. Keep in mind that there are several versions of the L10 and you may be mistaking it with a model missing the sophisticated obstacle avoidance hardware. That said, I recall the QRevos have more in common with Dreame robots than the S7/8 maxV models(share parts with the Xiaomi brand). It's possible the S-tier received special treatment, which could explain why the S7 maxV behaved with more sentience

I also have an L10s Ultra. Do you see any major differences in Valetudo compared to stock firmware?

Ok thx. Might look into it. There is a cool feature in stock that you can see the camera view of the robot on the app and you can control it remotely. Is rhis possible?

I've had a L10s Ultra for around 9 months now and it's great! I set it to vacuum my kitchen & dining area every night as I am heading to bed so it's always clean every morning. Once a week I do a full vacuum and mop of my 3 bedroom apartment which is all tiles and wood flooring.

Get Certified Refurbished eBay. I grabbed an L10S Ultra for $240 and a qrevo for $330. Dreame and Roborock are the brands. Both units seem pretty much brand new. If you want the latest and greatest, you'll be spending $1.5K plus. Search for deals, as the eBay coupons are timing dependent.

Valetudo or nothing. Sadly, the S8 isn't supported, so I went with the L10sU and it's a great kit!

I just returned a Dreame L10s ultra after less than a month due to catastrophic failure and poor support, so I'd avoid them. I previously used iRobot (and still do on the second floor) and am going back to them once my refund is processed.

I got it recently and am loving it!!

The value/performance ratio of the L10s Ultra is just so good. Every time I go look at the newer stuff from Dreame there's nothing really fundamentally better. They are all just iterations of the L10s Ultra with wildly higher price tags. The upcoming X50 Ultra with lifting wheels does look really cool, but I personally have no use case for it. The L10s Ultra mops and vacuums really well and is very cheap right now. Very hard to beat.

The Gen 2 is not supported by Valetudo, only the "regular" L10s Ultra.

Dreame L10s Ultra if you want mopping, Dreame D10s Plus if you just want vacuum.

The L10s Ultra is what I have and would highly recommend the mopping. Having it vacuum and mop the kitchen area every day after cooking is amazing. It's a bit horrifying how nasty the kitchen floors were getting previously.

I read the same Wirecutter article and got a vacuum only (refurbished rooms j7+). It works great but I regretted not getting a mop combo for our main floor. So I got a dream L10s Ultra (also a refurbished eBay buy) and moved the rooms upstairs. I love it so far. Hoping the dreame holds up - but I think mopping has gotten far better than to used to be and think of it as “maintenance” not deep clean then it’s amazing.

The Dreame l10S is a good option. It's object avoidance is around as good as Eufy's but Eufy's will still be a bit better. Even at $1000+ there still isn't a robot vacuum that works perfectly yet.

Dreame l10S or l20 if you are trying to save money Dreame x30 if you have a little more money to spend Dreame X40/L40 if you want the best. If you only have hardfloors, the Eufy S1 pro I also like the QRevo Slim if you want something from Roborock but I am disappointed with its Object avoidance capabilities when compared to Dreame and Eufy. Roborock in general is quite trash at obstacle avoidance and it makes it hard for me to trust their vacuums to run on a schedule without having to babysit them but their hardware is solid and reliable. Skip the Eufy x10 that so many shills like. It's got a lot of features that look good but in reality they aren't very well implemented. I had two of them and Eufy partially refunded me for both of them due to my experience with them. Good customer support, but a bad vacuum design that struggles to pick up anything on hardfloors. For the same money I would get a Dreame l10S or L20 instead. I posted my full review here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/AVD9Ph2eHK

Return both and get a Dreame L10S certified refurbished: [https://www.ebay.com/str/dreameinnovation/Refurbished/\_i.html?store\_cat=48519196012&\_trksid=p4429486.m3561.l161211](https://www.ebay.com/str/dreameinnovation/Refurbished/_i.html?store_cat=48519196012&_trksid=p4429486.m3561.l161211) Dreame is running a sale right now and with the coupon code, the L10s is like $300 which is a steal. I have two certified refurbished X40s and they were practically brand new, no sign of previous use. Also comes with 2 year third party warranty so you don't have to deal with dreame's questionable warranty support team. Based on how much you get from returning the shark and roomba, you can get 2 L10s robots or maybe one x30/x40. The Dreame vacuums are far better for the money due to their advanced features like object avoidance and they have good vacuum performance. Roborock has good vacuum performance but severely lacks in the object avoidance realm. Eufy has good object avoidance but not so great vacuum performance. iRobot and Shark are in a tier below Dreame, Roborock and Eufy.

Thanks everyone for your advice, it was fantastic and helped me a great deal, we ended up jpicking up the Dreame l10s ultra, I had a budget for something higher, but that cleaner looks like it just works, has easy replacement parts to source, and I can 3d print a reusable bag for the station to help on going costs, and came with a free roller upgrade to boot! But again thanks so much for taking the time out and helping a first time buyer!

Hey thanks for that mate, were I'm located the Roborock just were not on discount. region locked on amazon, So I ended up just ordering a Dreame l10s ultra, it was such a good price for what looked like a good solid mid range unit that works. I almost went for the l10s pro ultra heat etc, but its a slippery slope, next moment heck a few more hundy and you can get this.... or a few more and this... So the Dreame l10s it is for us :) and it came with a free tri roller as well, Im guessing its worth installing that? thanks for taking the time to reply :)

+1 Dreame L10 Ultra is perfect with the HACS custom component. I have automations that cmrun it when no one is home.

I have a dreame L10s ultra. It has rotating mop pads and does a great job mopping, I don’t have a wet sludge bin to clean at all. I rinse out the dirty water bin and the vacuum emptying works perfectly fine. You can set it to vacuum the house, then mop afterwards, if you’re worried about pushing dust around or getting a wet vacuum bin. It hasn’t been an issue for me.

Most of the time I run them at the same time. If I knew there was a lot of loose dirt on the floor, I’d do a separate run. I have an inside dog, so run it daily. Twice per week I have it do an intensive mop and vacuum, where it does each room 3x in a crosshatch pattern. Probably overkill! I have had the unit for 12 months. I am very happy with it. It’s very good at navigating its way around my furniture and cleans well. Way better than roombas and vorwork robots I’ve had in the past. Con is that I haven’t been able to control it fully using Siri or google assistant.

So I echanged the x10 for an L10s ultra heat which just finished mapping my room, can confirm a better pickup in the salt test and fine sand near the doors from outside. Too soon for other opinions yet but this test was easy and clearly better. (Makes more noise on max suction too.)

My gripe with it is that if the genius mode that is supposed to detect dirt and adapt to it does not work that well, would that make the extra price of the X40 worth it in comparison with its other models? It will of course be an amazing robovac, just unsure if worth the price difference. I used the Ls10 Ultra since its launch because it was the only drying mops on the time and I was happy with it, but now we decided that at the current status, the jump to the highest prices is not justifiable anymore.

I went with Dreame L10s Ultra. It had decent (but not the best) results on vacuumwars, for its price it was good tho. It is supported by Valetudo. Moreover, and it was very important for me, it has its debug port exposed so it is fairly easy to connect the vacuum to a PC for Valetudo flashing. It does not require disassembling the whole vacuum and all warranty seals stay intact. A custom made PCB is required for the easy flashing to work tho but the components were super cheap and I was comfortable with soldering the PCB. Valetudo was really important for me because today's robots are rolling survivalence cameras and there are many articles about camera footage leaking on the internet captured by these robots. I wasn't comfortable letting a camera rolling around the house like that. I have an Iot VPN but I cannot use that for these vacuums with factory firmware because then the app just won't work no matter which wifi my phone uses. The apps always phone home instead of using LAN. Except Valetudo. It can work like that.

Xiaomi X10 Plus or Dreame L10s Ultra. Flashed with Valetudo

The Dreame official solution says you can put it in the detergent tank and/or the clean water tank. The list instructions to do both.

I had a midrange roborock s5max for about 4 years. Just upgraded it because I wanted obstacle avoidance and self emptying. I bought a midrange dreame l20 I don't regret it.but the feature i wish I had but wasn't willing to pay for was the extendable corner brush. It wasn't worth $400 to me. It is also so careful with the object avoidance that it won't go into areas that were easily cleaned by my less fancy old robot that i still run sometimes for that reason. It's also very slow but i don't know if that's all object avoidance vacs or if newer higher tier ones are faster. I owned a dreame l10 ultra for a few weeks and returned it because the lack of led lights meant the obstacle avoidance camera couldn't detect in the dark.

Very happy with the Dreame L10s Ultra I bought last year for $630

I’ve had the Dreame L10S Ultra that I got off there for official eBay $490 for a full year now. Flashed it with Valetudo so it has 0 cloud communication and I absolutely love it. Integrates beautifully with HA, mops, vacuums, and auto-empty bin. Normally I’m the kind of person that always wants to buy the newest, shiniest piece of tech, but I’m really glad I bought this older model. It just works. Also I have 3 cats and it goes great with getting all the little fluff balls.

Dreame L10s Ultra flashed with Valetudo. I was able to get a refurbished one on DreameTech’s ebay page for around $450 and it works like new

I actually didn’t use the stock firmware at all before flashing, so i can’t make the comparison. But it integrates extremely well with HomeAssistant and I don’t feel like there’s any functionality or “I wish it did this” missing for me

just over a month at this point

I don’t believe I can see the camera view, but I can remotely control it with simple forward/backward left/right controls.

I ordered one off of Amazon UK. I'll give you a review here after a week or so. It is using something called point laser technogy. Some more details here: https://support.eufy.com/s/product/a08J1000000YA74IAG/eufy-omni-c20 Yet because of the slim design this was the ultimate choice for me to go underneath furniture. I was debating between this or Dreame L10s ultra, but some reviews were questioning Dreame's longevity.

Hey, I left a small review above. It is still going strong 2x a day. If you care more about size and low profile, while having most of the extras of a LiDAR vacuum I'd recommend it. I think it's on par with the Dreame L10 Ultra. The Dreame has better object avoidance, extra features such as the camera to chase your pet with it, while the C20 is smaller overall, can fit under your couch, has better suction power, and it will go through cables and small socks unfortunately.

I bought a L10S Ultra last month for my wife. Works infinitely better than the old Roomba with just a bump sensor. I flashed Valetudo on it because IoT vendors are incompetent when it comes to security and I don't need any IoT device talking to the internet. I have mostly hard floor with a few area rugs. It vacuums and mops well, doesn't get stuck on dumb shit like the old one, and is significantly quieter and well. I have mine hooked into home assistant so I can automate cleaning when we're not home in addition to running on schedule. I don't have anything negative to say about it after about 45 days of ownership

YES. It is most definitely that bad. It’s bad on hard floors but god forbid you run it on a carpet. I have a video of it just plowing through fake dog poop on carpets. Edit: I have owned both the roomba j series and dreame l series, and both are so so much better.

Dreame l10s ultra; don’t go for Roborock unless you don’t care about obstacle avoidance.

I tested the roomba j series and the l series from dreame and both perfectly did the test

I tested the roomba j series and the l series from dreame and both perfectly did the test

Because both my Dreame L series and Roomba J series did the same test flawlessly

The Dreame L10s Ultra is pretty good. It is $598 right now. You can also check out Vacuum Wars for reviews on robot vacuums: [https://vacuumwars.com/](https://vacuumwars.com/) I have the Eureka E10s and it is pretty good for a $400 robot vacuum. It can also do mopping if you need that. The auto-lifting feature is great. You can check this comparison video: [https://youtu.be/iQ958G5DzSo](https://youtu.be/iQ958G5DzSo) For $500 - $600, The Dreame is good. There are also other brands you can check out.

It does a good job at mopping for the price range. If you want a little bit better mopping, then the Dreame L10s Ultra is pretty good. The Eureka has 10mm auto mop lifting which is also nice. The Dreame has 7mm auto mop lifting I believe. The L10s has dual spinng mops while the Eureka E10s has a standard mop pad that robots in the $400 price range have. The Eureka E10s is also bagless so you do save money in the long term. If you want a more higher end mopping system, the Dreame L10s Ultra may be better but for a budget option, the Eureka is great. It depends on your budget. The Dreame is $200 more and has some more features but the Eureka E10s is for sure great in doing light to medium duty mopping. You can also check this video from Vacuum Wars on the Eureka E10s (It was the Mid Range Pick): [https://youtu.be/dfHd2Cyis-I](https://youtu.be/dfHd2Cyis-I)

Thanks for the comprehensive review. I have an L10S Ultra that I adore. I bought it refurbished directly from Dreame, and I just haven't seen any features that would compel me to upgrade....yet.

Sorry to say, but I’d steer clear of both if you want your parents to have a robot that is problem-free and hands-off. My first robot, found at a thrift store, is a Shark RV2001. We call it “Jaws” and overall, for a low tier robot vacmop, it does a good job. However, it needs constant attention and is pretty “dumb”. The Matrix is marginally better at mapping because of its lidar, but object avoidance is still mostly nonexistent for anything shorter than the robot. My recommendation: I recently upgraded to a factory refurbished Dreame L10S Ultra for $300 on eBay. Its features are on par with the Eufy X10 and Roborock QRevo S and I adore it. You should check out some videos about the Dreame L series. Truly remarkable machines. As others have suggested, consider returning these and getting something that will truly serve your parents.

Xiaomi X10+ / Dreame L10Ultra is great, it has everything. Dreame L10 Prime is probably the cheapest I have used, less features and for mopping it was OK. Roborock revos are great but usually costly. Roidmi Eva was pretty dumb robot avoid that.

Agree; though we don’t have the pro. Just the ultra. We have a new to us golden retriever which was the reason for the new robot vac and mop. Working great so far!

I’ll 3rd the dreame L10s ultra. Got it from eBay spring sale couple weeks ago for $330 after tax and happy with it

Owned one for a few months now and it's absolutely value for money given it's features vs price right now compared to most other bots on the market.

Not a single new Roborock until they fix their new brushing system, the cleaning quality have dropped alot since S6/7. Atm dream Ultra seems to be the best choice if you got the money.

Yeah, according to those test I’ve seen. But you guys seems to have more alternatives, NARWAL is not an alternative here and eufy isnt something you link as a strong brand, more like a cheap alternative. But with that said, I havnt seen test of those 2 and can’t say if they are good or bad. Real reviews on youtube is the way to go to make sure.

My only complaint with my Dreame L10s Ultra is that the obstacle avoidance sucks compared to my iRobot J7+. I like the mopping and the new privacy from no-cloud vacuuming but I have to pick up cables again.

I was in the same boat, but with Black Friday sales both the roborock qrevo (refurbished)and dreame l10s ultra (new) are available for $359. For that price it’s hard to justify spending 2-3x as much for a few extra features which don’t seem to make a huge difference in the actual functionality of the product. I bought a l10s ultra and hope to not think about it again for at least a couple years.

It really depends on your home, how much hard floor and carpet do you have? Of those three I’d probably go for the dreame or roborock, check out the reviews and top 20 list on the vacuum wars website or YouTube channel. He’s a mod on here too I believe.

You probably wouldn't be able to get anything to clean that whole space by itself. I have the L10s pro ultra heat and it has a way to hook up for auto fill and drain if you have a way to do that. I would say they could probably top out around 1000sq ft a charge since you're doing hard floors and mopping. You can set it to clean a specific area and have they go off in a relay so the whole area is covered. Dreame has some pretty cheap options that you might want to look into. The L10S ultra is around $400 on sale I believe and you can get a auto hookup I believe.

I've had plenty of robo vacuums: dirt devil, 360 s6 and s7, roborock s5 max, ecovacs T9 AIVI, and dreamee L10s Ultra. The latter is the best one, hands down. If I we're you, I would buy a Dreamee L20 Ultra (If it's inside your budget). You won't regret it.

It can also clog he internal water tank / pump of the vacuum. Happened to my l10s ultra. Had to open it up and remove the residue. I used a non approved cleaning solution though 🙃

Got my L10S Ultra during 2023 Prime Day so it’s been over a year now. I run it daily to vacuum and mop ~450 sq ft each session. I’ve not encountered any issues with it.

Hey man! Not sure if too late to give a reply... I purchased a Dreame L10 Ultra or something like that. I really liked the general performance, but was disappointed by the edge cleaning and mop performance. Returned the unit and bought the S1 Pro on Kickstarter since I read its mop performance was stellar. It's true !!! Seriously, in all the other robot mops that exist and only "spread" the dirt, this robot mop is awesome. Not everything about it is great (maybe the vacuum performance isn't the best, maybe it doesn't clean at 0.001 mm from the edges) but for me, the most important (having 2 pets, and one really intrigued by the water in the bathtub) is the mop performance and it achieves !!! Day and night difference with this unit VS all other options. I don't really care if my robot vacuums 99.9 or 99.5% of the dirt; what I want is clean floors!

I’d go with the dreame l10s ultra for the valetudo firmware

I'd suggest the dreame L10s ultra. I bought a refurb back in august from dreame's eBay store. It was brandnew (or looked that way). Zero issues. two year replacement warranty from squartrade. in the top 20 on vacuumwar's best robots. Can't beat $300 for an $800 robot. I highly recommend.

Don’t get anything older or less feature rich than a Dreame L10S Ultra or you’ll likely be disappointed with it. I had a roomba s9+ combo with the braava m6. It was a great vacuum, but I had to clean everything up first or it would get stuck. At that point I’d rather use my Dyson to get majority of everything without having to be worried a small cat toy would stop the cleaning. The mop was garbage. I maybe ran them once a week. Upgraded to a L10S ultra that I run vacuum and mop with every day. I don’t have to baby sit it at all, so it runs while I sleep. I wake up with clean floors every morning. Only daily thing I have to do is empty/clean/fill the water tanks.

I bought the Dreame L10s plus with 7000pa and then the Dreame L10s ultra with 5300Pa… there is a huge difference in the suction power. The 7000pa was cleaning much better. So yes there is a difference in my own experience

I’m also very confused. First I bought the Dreame L10s plus but after one week the robot was making very loud odd noise so I got my money back. Then I bought the Dreame L10s ultra, but that one has an issue with the water not getting into the robot. So the floor didn’t get wet. I got the money back for that one too. Now I don’t know which one to buy. For me I also looking for a robot that are good mobbing. I’m looking for: Not less than 5/6000 Pa Internal Water tank in the robot is very important for me And with mop-pad-wash and cleaning I’m looking at Dreame L10s ultra, Roborock Qrevo S or Xiaomi X20 pro/max - but not decided yet 🙃

The first one I bought was Dreame L10s plus. Without mop wash but 7000Pa for about 500 euro. (Got a error and I returned it) Then I bought the L10s ultra with mop wash, but with 5300Pa for the same price. But now the plus is on sale for 350 euro (I’m form Denmark) The plus model does vacuum better with the 7000Pa in my opinion. The mopping is almost the same in my experience. (The ultra got an error so I returned that to. i haven’t bought a new one yet 😅, because I’m confused which one to buy now) So it also matter off sale and price in you’re country, and there are so many models to choose from. All with different errors as well

Well the only real way to manage such cat fur is with a real vacuum like a miele or Sebo. My Miele compactifies months of kitty crumbs & fur like a champ (no cotton candy fur effect here). I use a dreame l10s ultra as my robot. I don't rely on the robot doing deep carpet cleans as I real vacuum about once a week but the dreame has been excellent with kitty floor and my long thick hair (with the dreame cutting brush). The q revo curv is the best robot money can buy right now so ofc that's the best recommendation. I like the dreame better for tighter margins and being more intrepid about mopping next to rugs. Get the dreame x40 master if you can afford it and do the water hookup as the water hookup is one of the final frontiers for a hands free robot. The dreame l10s ultra is sufficient and can empty its bin regularly to deal with kitty floof, but running it everyday should avoid any bin clogs. I would say the dreame l10s pro ultra is worth getting for hot water and water dirtiness sensor (advanced new mopping features). If you want the most advanced vacuum features get the roborock q revo curv. Checkout vacuumwars for feature comparisons and checkout RTINGS for some more grounded opinions. Overall stick with dreame and Roborock. They're repairable with great customer service and parts availability. One thing, the roborocks are SIGNIFICANTLY quieter than the dreames, but Pepperoni doesn't mind the dreame running. The Miele is ofc quieter than the robots on max power tho. Overall a robot is an amazing, indispensable companion to a bagged vacuum in a pet home! With my robot running multiple times daily, I almost never feel the need to "on demand" vacuum anymore.

So I bought a q revo and dreame l10s and compared them directly and ended up keeping the l10s because it seems to do a better job of mopping (and is willing to mop in skinnier areas of my hard floor around rugs). I don't mind the worse app with dreame, it's completely usable and reliable, just with weird translations. I genuinely like the roborock carpets first feature but I don't miss it with scheduling. If you can afford the l40 ultra, that's what I would buy for the best features (hot water mop washing, self cleaning washboard, water turbidity sensor, mop extend & lifting brush, hair cutting roller). How much more expensive are the premier q revo models in your area (the master, slim, edge, curv)? If theyre the same price (or you can afford the slight increase) I'd get those for the best of both worlds: premier features and the superior roborock app.

I have two Dreams L10S Ultra’s and really like them. The main reason why I bought them is because it’s possible to put Valetudo https://valetudo.cloud on them.

That's where I got my L10s ultra like 5 months back, still running like a champion.

I've had my L10S Ultra for nearly a year now and absolutely love it.

Flashed my L10s ultra with valetudo, works great with home assistant. Completely cloud free, highly recommend (and great robot too !)

The Dreame L10s Ultra can run Valetudo so all local, and it's an excellent robot. There's a new heat variant, not sure if that's worth the extra price

Hands down L10s ultra, dont hesitate to get the refurbished ones on ebay

I just got mine and it’s amazing. The only thing that would be nice is the swing arm to get some better edge cleaning instead of it doing the little turn. Its mops don’t lift up high enough on medium length carpet but that seems to be fixed on newer ones.

If I could choose I'd go with the Eufy pro Omni, but at home I've got the Dreame l10s ultra which is great, but not the best.

Maybe if customer support was way more reliable and the prices were halved, I’d consider upgrading from the L10 Ultra. Our next upgrade is going to be to a Matic, heard nothing but amazing things.

I added the L10s Ultra to Home Assistant with the Dreame integration in HACS: [https://github.com/Tasshack/dreame-vacuum](https://github.com/Tasshack/dreame-vacuum) The process worked fine for me. Normally, I would have flashed the thing with Valetudo, but at the time the process for flashing the L10s was just way to difficult.

Q7's mopping is trash as it's just going to drag the mopping pad. You want the spinning pads or the vibrating pads for it to actually work. Wait for decent deal on either roborock q Revo and Dreame L10s ultra. Both should be going on deals to be had under or close to $500. Just one or two weeks ago the L10s ultra refurb was 400 with 2 year all state warranty.

Ecovacs are great when the map issues doesn't happen. I guess I have been lucky using my n8+ for past 2 years with zero issues. I have it to setup on a daily schedule in area mode and the only issues I've encountered are it getting stuck on a random charger wire I forgot to put up or getting trapped inside my dining table because I left the chair out. I just picked up a dreame L10s ultra to replace the n8+ for the mop upgrade. N8+ will go upstairs where I don't have a need for mopping.

1) go to Slickdeals.net and set a deal alert for Keyword "robot vacuum" 2) lookout for any robot vacuum that has an auto empty and Lidar. That's literally all you need if you simply don't want mopping. If you do decide to get one with mopping capability, make sure the mopping pad either spins with downward pressure (see Dreame L10S ultra / roborock q revo for decent options) or has vibrating pads (see roborock max v lineups). Obviously all depends on your budget

Do your pets shed a lot of hair ? I've had constant issues with the washboard being clogged with pets hairs in my L10s Ultra and having to clean the washboard constantly, so I'm thinking of upgrading to the X50. How is it in terms of clogging or pet hairs in the washboard after mopping ?

Do your dogs shed a lot of hair ? I've had constant issues with the washboard being clogged with pets hairs in my L10s Ultra and having to clean the washboard constantly, so I'm thinking of upgrading to the X50. How is it in terms of clogging or pet hairs in the washboard after mopping ?

I have problems with dreame (L10s Ultra) not being able to find it’s base station, which I don’t have on my Roborock (or at least very rarely, seems like every 1 or 2 cleans for Dreame)

> wash, vacuum, and has a base with clean, dirty water, and dries the cloth used for washing The best one of these, that as far as I know is _much_ better than the competition, is the Dreame L10s Ultra. It works with Valetudo. My friend just converted his to work with Valetudo and it cleans up the whole house with a muddy dog every day. The mopping feature is superior to most other brands. That it works with Valetudo means it will last as long as the hardware lasts, and not get shut down or lobotomized by an evil cloud service. Your budget may be a problem. eBay shows they can be found for $500 refurbished so maybe not, but, new they will be much more than that.

Bang for buck - mova p10 ultra Money is no object/I want the best - roborock Sara's 10r or dreame x50 ultra Budget/cheapest option changes alot based on sales. Just the other week I bought a refurbished L10s ultra for $240 Honorable mention - the new eufy e28 can be had for $800. I think its worth considering because the roller mop system they have going seems to do really good for mopping in general.

It was fine but I returned it for 2 reasons 1) not great in corners (as expected) 2) if I forgot to pick up a wire, this thing was gonna send me an alert while I was at work telling me " mop pad came off" The L40 was on sale this week so I upgraded.

I have the Dreambot L10s we don't have any tatami so I can't speak to that but I have had literally no complaints.

I think this is the way. When my L10s worked, it was wonderfull. When I had to use support, it was really really terrible for months and months to get it fixed. Which it is still not till this day after the second trip to the repairshop sinds jan 24...

L40 Ultra with current in store promotions will definitely make the decision a lot easier, since it can be had for $399 before tax, plus they throw in free gifts with purchase. It's a better overall model than the L10s with more suction, battery, better self washing and washboard cleaning as well. It's a steal for the price and if you were considering one over the other, I'd say overall L40 Ultra is a great value product in the market right now. Hope this helps narrow down the search a little for you, and if any questions, don't hesitate to reach out. happy hunting!

I don't recommend Dreame if you use an Android phone. I bought an L10s last year. It was connecting at first but after a reset it wouldn't connect to my Pixel at all. It did seem to work with my mother's iPhone but that wouldn't be useful for me so I returned it. The other big thing was that when I went to leave a negative review due to all the frustration, the review never got posted. I was fair and simply stated that for me it didn't work well with Android. I rewrote and submitted a few times; there was always a review waiting period but it was never posted. The fact that most of the Chinese robot vacuums are rated so highly on Amazon, and the fact that these companies are connected to Xiaomi has left me very suspicious that the reviews are being manipulated or bought. Many of the YouTube reviews also seem paid without any declaration of being sponsored. In contrast, the reviews from Rtings or news sites were so much more critical. I don't want to support these type of shady companies so instead I bought a Shark which I have to try soon.

I'm between this and the dreame L10S Ugh

Ended up with Dreame

I've never checked mine empties great - L10s

From what I’ve heard the mopping is more or less useless on the l60 whereas the dreame having the dual rotation mops would perform great if it’s anything like the other dreame’s. You could also buy the dreame tricut brush from AliExpress if the hair cutting tool that the l60 has is something you want.

Seems like Roborock and Dreame are the to leaders depending on desired features and price range. I have an older S4 that is great and an L10s in another location.

Identify the features you want and go from there. Let the features drive the realistic price. For me that was Lidar, self-empty, mopping pads that spin and not just dragged behind. Those features ended up with me getting a Dreame L10s for around $700

Dreame L10s is what I have with 5 kids. I like it

It depends on how much you consider your floors being really clean a life changer. I view it as a life changer, I've now bought 6 Dreame vacuums (everyone in my family now has one, and every one of them loves it), only one has given serious issues, the rest have been pretty problem free. I recommend trying to get at least the 20 series or better, it is a significantly better product then the older models. The L10 is quite weak on corners/wall edges (and needless to say the 40 is the best). I've used other brands in the past, and Dreame is easily the best experience I had by far. Their customer service does suck though for the one I had issues with. Buy from Amazon so you have a good return policy in case it doesn't work well early on. I believe if you buy starting Oct 1st, the return date will be 1/31/2025 so you know you got at least 4 months of a good warranty.

For crevices, you need a robot with a bristle main brush. Dreame L series and Mova usually use rubber brushes, which, according to reviewers on YT, don't pick up dust in crevices well unlike bristle ones. Some Roborock model like Q5 Pro, Q8 Max, Qrevo S, and QV35A/S also uses a similar brush. I think if you don't mind with prices, E28 or E25 is a good candidate because its roller mop is superior. Roborock also has a new lineup called S5A which is the cheaper version of Qrevo Edge. Now it's $899 on Amazon. S5A uses a similar Duo Divide split brush as in Qrevo Edge and Eufy E28, a self-empty station, and obstacle avoidance but only using structured light without a live camera.

The Dreame robot mop system is our favorite new roommate! We have a new and an older iRobot Roomba vacuums and recently got this one for the main floor. We're very happy with it. It's available in many different price ranges.