Dreame - L10s Ultra Gen 2

I Got the dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 and I'm very happy with it. I bought one 7 years ago, and back then, the technology sucked. Nowadays, however, the technology is ready, and robot vaccums from mid range and up work very well.

I have not used my vaccum since I bought my l10S gen2 a month ago. So far it seems it does an exceptionally god job

The max has serious issues with the cleaning station, which include a fragile dirty water pump and an unreliable water temperature sensor, also, the pro doesn’t have an internal water container and therefore has to return to its station to wet its mop pads. I believe a much better option would be the dreame l10s ultra gen 2

I Have the same and it is easy of you Have HACS installed. From there install the "Dreame Vacuum" Integration (Beta version) and the L10s Ultra Gen2 is recognized.

Ich würde dir so etwa 500€ empfehlen, dort bekommst du am meisten für dein geld, ich selber hab den dreame l10 ultra gen2 und bin sehr zufrieden damit Kommt natürlich drauf ob er auch selber wischen soll, wenn dir das nicht so wichtig ist gehts auch noch wesentlich günstiger

We are really enjoying our Dreame L10s Ultra Gen2. Bought it in the sale. My girlfriend was sceptical and called me crazy for buying it but since we have it it is running through our house every other day. We almost havent touched our normal vacuum since it arrived. It mop and, it cleans itself. The only thing you have to do is refill the water tank, remove the dirty water (and the water gets dirty) and replace the dirt bag in the station once every while.

If you can wait, the Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 is $699 with a coupon right now but has dropped to $599 before. That's a much better robot with better suction, obstacle avoidance, battery life, edge mopping, and probably app experience. The T20 does have hot mop washing while the Dreame doesn't. However, the T20 also does not have an onboard water tank, meaning it must repeatedly return to the dock to wet the mops. Also, when you say "fill itself" I assume you don't mean plumbing, since all of these robots will need the water tanks changed manually.

Nooooo that's the basic L10 Ultra without the "s" or the Gen 2. That would have the same horrible obstacle avoidance as the T20, and it also doesn't have mop extend for edge cleaning. Not sure how the vacuuming power compares in real world, but on paper the L10 Ultra is slightly worse than the T20. The L10 Ultra will have an onboard tank, but again the T20 features hot water mop washing. I think the L10 Ultra would be a better choice if you need to mop a large area.

of these 3 the Dreame L10s Plus has spin mops which are better than the other two with their "drag rag" type mops. The N20 Pro's mop is gonna be a little better than the L60 since it vibrates back and fourth a little bit as it goes but the spin mops are the way to go IMO none of these have the self cleaning mop station of course but your gonna be spending a bit more for that function. If you can swing it the Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 is 899 USD and has the full service dock (washes and drys the mop pads, refills the water tank on the bot etc) and also has the corner extending mop arm to reach the corners better. worth the couple extra hundred IMO. I have a Eufy X10 pro which has the full service dock and I love it. I dont have to worry about manually filling the water tank or cleaning the pads (aside from swapping them out weekly to run through the washing machine) I snagged mine for 520 refurbished on ebay though.

I just got the Dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2, I think all of the Dreame robots have a rubber brush instead of hard plastic with bristles, and it seems to handle things well! I don’t have much long hair here anymore but I have two cats that leave fur everywhere It also caught an iPhone cable that my son left on the floor, got totally wrapped up but when I pulled on one end it just came right out, didn’t tangle at all. Also apparently Dreame has a special brush with some bits to stop hair from getting caught, I don’t know how well it works though.

We also have a roboroco (dreame ls10 ultra, at this point there are probably newer models) and I LOVE IT. I still need to pick up 6483939 toys and move my furniture before I use it but my toddler gets crumbs everywhere and we constantly have ants coming in from outside if we don't find every last crumb. I love that it mops. I find it a bit tedious to do the maintaince on it (cleaning the washboard, unclogging the self vacuum chute, replacing the mop pads) but it's honestly 1/1000 of the work of mopping yourself even just one time. My husband (who has vacuumed twice in 15 years and never mopped) thought it was an extravagant purchase at first but he's been converted too. 

Hya, I’m trying to replace two very old Roborock S5, which are in ever increasing need of fixing small issues. I live in NZ and the options are more limited than in the US or Europe. I’d like to upgrade to a self-emptying and self-cleaning vacuum mop combo. Within budget I got four options for essentially the same price: Dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2 or Roborock QRevo L or ECOVACS Deebot T30 Omni or Roborock S7 Max Ultra. My house is relatively small (less than 100sqm) with a mix of lino, carpet and rugs. I’ve got a moulting dog, but poop is no issue. However, obstacles can be an issue (nooks and crannies, forgotten charge cables, shoe laces, challenging furniture shapes). I’ve spent hours comparing, but feel I’m comparing apples and oranges, specs vs. real world performance, outdated reviews etc… I’d appreciate any advice you can offer. Thank you.

Thank you. That’s the one I’m leaning to. It seems like good value for money. I just wasn’t sure how it stacks up in practice, so thanks for sharing.

Thanks for sharing! Much appreciated. The L10S Ultra Gen 2 has done away with the accessible camera. I assume because of people’s privacy concerns. Not quite sure what hardware they use for the obstacle avoidance, and what the remaining privacy risk there is. The available info about the hardware seems limited. I like Roborock as a brand and their app. However, this QRevo L version I can get for a good price hasn't got the flexiarm mop you get with the Pro. This kind of feature seems to make quite a bit of difference achieving almost edge-less mopping from what I’ve read. I hadn’t come across this QRevo L before. It seems to be a basic version with suction increased to 10kPa.

The Mova P10 pro ultra is the best bot for the money. If you can swing the price, it's the one to get. The Dreame L10S Ultra gen 2 [can be found on eBay for $350](https://ebay.us/m/iTkvvP) at the moment, which I personally think edges out the Mova in value. However you will lose the hot water mop washing, extending side brush, self-cleaning dock, improved obstacle avoidance, and remote camera viewing features of the Mova. (Mova is a sub-brand of Dreame, btw)

Hey there. X20 Max owner. I was considering the Xiaomi models and the X20 Max is a step up in terms of cleaning performance compared to the X20+. Also, hot wash mops and drying saves a lot of time cleaning and maintaining with the station. A robot vacuum is intended to last anywhere between 3 to 5 years, so it’s worthwhile to invest in some additional features you’ll appreciate later on. You might want to check out Dreame L10s ultra pro as well. Similar to the X20 Max, with additional cleaning customisations and a RGB camera (you can watch over the corgis when you’re away haha) Both Dreame and X20 Max allow scheduled cleaning (based on time). You could also tie it up with a Xiaomi home camera and set up instructions to clean when it detects no one in the house after X mins. Both models have tonnes of 3rd party accessories, so you’ll never have to worry about finding replacements. Just make sure you get a good tricut brush for the hairs. Hope you find a good deal. Best of luck.

Oh man. No brainer. Go for it, L10s Ultra gen 2 for the win haha. I think you’ll lose out on the hot washing mops, a feature I really appreciate. But users have survived without it :)

I could be wrong. It just didn’t appear in its feature list https://www.dreametech.com/products/l10s-ultra-gen-2-robot-vacuum?srsltid=AfmBOooSWTYq6jZHsm6-Xwq0rCh2OqtSOfxdUkUfDS85a3trppoun57A Still would buy it!

If you’re an Amazon Prime member, you should look out for the Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 @ $499. Does well with transitions between rug and hard flooring, with good mop raising clearance. Tassels are tough, so might need to tuck them in for the RV to not grab them. You can buy a lot of 3rd party accessories for it (mop pads, tricut brush - for better hair cutting performance) Only seen great results with mopping and vacuuming. Its obstacle avoidance is pretty good as well (at that price point)

Thank you kindly for your reply! The mopping is more important than rug vacuuming. I ended up with the Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2. It washes and then dries the mop heads with warm air. It has most of goodies like dirt detection, obstacle avoidance, mop extension, higher mop lift than gen 1. It does all this from a small footprint base station. We have a very small one-floor house. We were paying $137 each month for maids, it will pay for itself in no time. Amazon is selling for $550 USD.

If they all cost the same, go for the Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2. It has the highest suction at 10,000 Pa (higher than the Roborock QV35s at 8,000 Pa and the QV35a at 7,000 Pa), an excellent dual mop system with auto-wash and dry, AI obstacle avoidance, and one of the best mopping systems available. The Roborock QV35s is still a fantastic option, with strong 8,000 Pa suction, Roborock’s superb app, reliable dual mop system, and great mapping. If you prefer Roborock’s ecosystem or app design, it’s a great pick — just know it has slightly less suction than the Dreame. The QV35a is essentially a QV35s with 7,000 Pa suction. It’s only worth it if it’s meaningfully cheaper. The Q Revo Plus is older, with 5,500 Pa suction and fewer advanced features, so it’s a step behind these newer models.

Went with a dreame L10s ultra gen 2 for £479

There are much better robots you can buy at the same price or lower. There is the dreame x40 ultra for £1099 which will greatly outperform the deebot x5 pro. It has hot water mop cleaning, tangle free vacuuming with the TriCut brush, and good mopping. Dreame robots have the best edge cleaning out of all the brands. There is the dreame l40 ultra for £849, a much better deal as it is essentially the same as the Dreame x40 ultra except for battery life. Since you didn’t mention having a pet, I think the best value choice is the dreame L10s ultra Gen 2 (£549). Also tangle free vacuuming with the TriCut brush, strong all-around performance, but no hot water mop washing. Just take care of your cables and it’ll do well.

The Dreame L10S Ultra Gen2 would be a good choice especially with the TriCut brush.

If the Dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2 is cheaper, I’d go for it over the X20+ as it’s much more feature rich. It can also use the antitangle TriCut brush.

below 700 USD would be the Dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2 (8990000 Rp). This is what I’d recommend if you’re on a strict budget. If you want a rather smart one that can decide if certain areas need to be mopped or vacuumed again, I’d choose the L30S Ultra 11,790,000 Rp, which seems to be just slightly above your budget. Both robots have good mapping and navigation.

The Dreame L40s Pro Ultra (£799) will be the best budget premium robot vacuum in the UK, as it is essentially an X50 Ultra, if you don't need the threshold-crossing ability or the retracting LIDAR, while being cheaper than the X40 Ultra. Everything else will be the same. It'll have the best self-cleaning ability at the best price due to the AceClean dryboard, which cleans itself much better than the Dreame X/L40 Ultra and the self-cleaning filter in the dustbin (works best if you set it to vacuum first before mopping, as mud won't be in the filter). It's also great for homes with pets that are heavy shedders, as it also has a live fur compression feature that compresses the fur in the dustbin as it vacuums to make the best use of the dustbin's space and mitigates the issue of the dustbin being clogged yet having space on the sides, something only available on the L50 Ultra and the X50 Ultra. It'll pick up fur and hair from carpets better than the Tricut brush, as it has dual rollers. I really liked how it was able to mark my furniture as something it could get stuck on and smartly cleaned around it, instead of trying to climb my coffee table with U-legs, something my LDS-only robot couldn't do (it tried humping it instead). The best budget option will be the [Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2](https://dreamestore.co.uk/products/dreame-l10s-ultra-gen-2-robot-vacuum-and-mop-with-self-cleaning-and-auto-empty). Due to the lack of an RGB camera, the obstacle avoidance won't be as good and wouldn't be as good at self-cleaning compared to the L40s Pro Ultra. If you want it to deal well with pet hair, you'll need to purchase the Tricut brush as well. For the Xiaomi robots, the X20 Pro is a good choice, but obstacle avoidance is the same as the Dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2, and it cannot extend and swing its mop (MopSwing is on for the L10S Ultra Gen 2 in some purchasing regions) like the above choices. It is also compatible with the TriCut brush if needed.

I’d choose the dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2. Should have better mop extend algorithm and detergent tank helps with washing mops. TriCut brush + TriCut brush cover is great. You’d only have to untangle hair stuck on the side brush. There is also more smart customization in the Dreame app than Xiaomi’s app.

Not as good as the L10S Ultra Gen 2

MOVA P10 Ultra and dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2 has LDS sensors only. The MOVA P10 Pro Ultra and the x40 ultra has an RGB camera and LDS sensors. These will do better for obstacle avoidance~

Dreame’s L10S Pro Ultra Gen 2 can use the antitangle TriCut brush. It has worked perfectly for my long haired corgi that sheds so much. A small amount of fur will collect on the sides of brushes if you don’t use the correct brush cover which prevents this from happening. For the QRevo S, the all rubber brush works well at resisting tangles with fur collecting on the sides but as soon as there’s a cut on the rubber, it’ll easily tangle (same for Dreame’s all rubber brush). I think both robots have an easy to clean completely removable mop pad cleaning tray. https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/AgXP4k48pP There’s also the L40 Ultra at 399 in the US but not in Amazon.

Xiaomi X20+ is better for homes <50sqm because there’s no onboard water tank. I’d get Dreame’s L10S Pro Ultra Gen 2 because it has much more features that work compared to the other robots in this price range. Ecovacs’ T50 Pro Omni has navigation issues due to an embedded lidar and obstacle avoidance issues because it has an RGB camera but no led fill light for dark environments. It can also only map up to 100sqm which wouldn’t be suitable for larger homes.

Mopping has greatly improved! Those with spinning mops do quite well in your price range! If debris is well removed from the floor with the vacuum before it mops, you won’t have the issue of the spinning mops dragging around larger debris which will scratch your floor. As for self cleaning, you’d still have to clean the base station’s mop washboard from time to time but it does a pretty okay job cleaning the mops (I recommend writing the robot to clean its mops on the deepest setting and the highest frequency at first then fine tuning based on your home). In Germany, I’d recommend the Dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2 which is going to be the most cost effective option based on features and cleaning performance in your price range. I run my rather basic Xiaomi robot (similar to the Dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2) to vacuum first then mop twice a day. The end result is that my wood floors feel much softer and have a visible sheen and the tile floors are very barefoot friendly and are very shiny!

S20+ and the l10s ultra gen 2 are miles apart. I’d get the l10s ultra gen 2 since it’s at the same price. Same if you meant the X20+

>Harvey Norman are notorious for being a pain in the ass with warranties. Wow, I had the understanding that adding a protection plan from a retailer like Harvey Norman would help. Especially since some retailers would let you replace it with a robot of the same value if it were broken during the protection plan period. :( I think the Dreame should navigate better, as it has a lidar tower (C20 Omni only uses a front laser) and has more features and customization in the DreameHome app. I do like the detergent tank option, which is used to clean the mops.

If you want a vacuum only robot, I’d look at the AEG RX9-2-4ANM https://www.robocleaners.com/en/aeg-rx9-2-4anm.html (Not an affiliate link). This robot won't ao very well tor dealing with hair and fur on the brush roller but this is the best robot vacuum if you're only considering vacuuming performance (along with the Dyson VisNav which is considerably more expensive but the thicker roller means it’s less prone to tangles). If you want an autoempty station, I’d look at the roborock S8+, Roborock Q5/Q8 Max+, or the eufy E20. If you want a combo, I'd recommend the Dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2 (599), Xiaomi X20 Max (539), the Xiaomi X20 Pro (439), the Xiaomi X10+ (399) as these robots are better suited for larger homes (<60-100sqm) as it has an internal water tank so it won't need to constantly go back to the base station to clean the mops. The Xiaomi X20+ lacks an onboard water tank and must rewet the mops and can become dry when mopping before it resets it. This is generally less water efficient which is why I recommend the previous models. I’d recommend the Xiaomi X20+ for homes smaller than 50-60sqm. All of these robots are compatible with the dreame anti-tangle TriCut brush which works great with my long haired corgi’s fur and long hair in my home.

I can not reccomend Dreame. I had the L10s ultra gen 2 and it left big water stains on the wooden floor. The other Dreame robot could not give water anymore.

No there was no air problem. I just could not give water. I also checked for chalk but there was none. I had it for 2 month or so and it was already defect. I asked what I can do and they said that I should send it back. Thats what I did. Then I bought the L10s ultra gen 2 and had it for about 2 month. Every time I started the robot it left big stains of water. It also was not mopping correct. There was always a dry line between the two mops. It is kind of unbelievable what garbage they are selling. My Roomba 620 is still working after 15 years. Of course it is a completely different thing but everything from dreame does work for two or three month or so. It is a joke. Also Ecovacs is imho total garbage. I had a Roborock which was better but I received it with a broken part in the station. Therefore I am looking for a new robot.

I had a **Dreame L10s Plus** that suddenly stopped dispensing water. It could only be used for dry mopping. I tried to clean the nozzles, but that didn't help. The retailer told me to return it, which I did. Then I bought a **Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2**, which left large amounts of water on the wooden floor. Water drops would be an understatement. I tried all the settings in this area, but it always leaked water. Deactivating Mop Extend didn't help either. Cleaning the mops was very noisy and drying them was unbearable. Again, the dealer told me to return the device. And then I made the mistake of buying a **DREAME L40 Ultra AE**. It made constant beeping noises while mopping and also left water stains on the wooden floor. Cleaning the mops was also noisy and drying them was again unbearable. I returned this one too. So, for me, the Dreame chapter is closed forever. My only luck in this odyssey was that I bought from a customer friendly seller.

I just bought the Dreame L10S ultra Gen2 and I’m excited to get it! My second choice was the Roborock Qrevo QV35A but Just A Dad on YouTube helped me make my decision!

Stay away from ROOMBA! I’ve had a great experience with my Dreame L10S ultra gen 2, bought it at Amazon. Don’t buy through manufacturers because they can not do anything and claim what’s wrong isn’t under warranty. Amazon will make sure they fix it if you get a warranty through them. I’ve heard many great things about Roborock as well. If you want to spend extra money you can go with ecovacs or Euphy. Don’t get shark unless your going to get one of the AI detect Vac only bots.

Our L10s Ultra is awesome, however I don't think the obstacle avoidance is that great. In general, I think if people are expecting to never have to pick things up off the floor, then they will be disappointed. The kitchen is the only area that gets automatically cleaned every day. The rest I manually trigger after doing some prep like moving shoes and chairs. The lidar mapping is fantastic and the mopping is a game changer. Being able to automatically clean the kitchen every night after cooking has made such a huge difference in cleanliness. It's shocking how dirty the waste water always is.

Drag mop and no dock is why it's so cheap. If you want mopping then you really want something with a spin mop and dock. In the US, Dreame has the L10s Ultra on sale for $299, which is a crazy good price for what you get. I wouldn't do sider anything less for mopping. https://www.dreametech.com/products/dreamebot-l10s-ultra

Usually I would say the l10s due to the tri cut brush but since you don’t have animals, I’m not sure that’s necessary. If you have long haired humans in the house the dreame. If not, whatever is cheaper currently.

I snagged myself a dreame l10s ultra gen 2 for that price, been vacuuming everyday and mopping two times a week for a couple of weeks now. Hard tiled floors with one carpet, worked flawlessly so far.

I got my gen 2 about a week ago, so I still dont have the full picture, but I think the weakest part so far of the robot is navigating and cleaning near carpets. It tends to act a bit confused and it is not 100% effective. Maybe it is some setting that is not correct in the app, for instance it is difficult to edit carpets in the app. But other than that it works fine. But we also only have 2 carpets at home, so it is not a big deal right now.

Habe einen dreame l10 ultra gen2 und bin zufrieden. Man muss aber für eine gewisse Grundordnung sorgen, keine herumliegenden Sachen etc. Außer Haus lass ich den dann Saugen und Wischen

Just checked on Amazon Spain you can find the dreame l10s ultra gen 2 for 399 euros that should meet all your criteria, also on the official Xiaomi store you can find the x10+ for 325 euros wich I have and I am pretty happy with it ( a dreame in disguise)

We have that one. It's good.

I have to disagree. Our L10s Ultra Gen 2 is a carpet champ. It even leaves the nice just-vacuumed tracks. We retired our Dyson cylinder corded because we don't need it anymore. That said, the performance in the video doesn't look good at all.

I cant speak to the others, but we've had that Dreame model since Christmas. We've used it heavily and it's been excellent.

I'm happy with the Gen 2. I'll stick with that until there's a clear tech breakthrough in the upper tier

I can't foresee a time I will ever vacuum or mop the main parts of the floor myself ever again. We have a Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2.

I did the exact same about 3 months ago for my dad. I got him dreame l10 ultra gen 2 and not once has he had to save it or get involved. It's been brilliant. I have it on schedule 3 days per week and it works a treat, it vacs and mops and has the dock, so it auto emptys itself so there is 0 effort maintaining it. I'd recommend it. When I visit I just do a quick check and clean the dock area and I knows it's good to go. I have the dreame l20 ultra also for the past year and it's been the same, flawless. I also love that you can share your robot with someone else, so I can keep an eye on things remotely for him.

I've used the Dreame L40s Pro Ultra for a while, and I agree it's a solid choice for what you're seeking, especially with the AceClean dryboard feature. It does an excellent job with pet hair and tackles hardwood floors effectively. You might also want to consider the Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 if the budget is tighter; it's slightly less refined without the RGB camera but still performs well. For even more in-depth insights on robot vacuums, ConsumerRating has some great comparisons and reviews that might help tailor your decision to your needs.

As the poster above mentioned, most of them don't have cameras for object detection. I think bellow 600€ there is only a limited number available. Some ecovac Modells have a camera, I think the t30c “pro" is sometimes available for 599€ in sales and has a camera object detection. And I think only the Dreame l10s ultra heat has camera object detection (and the old l10s ultra). The new l10s ultra gen2 models have not. But then I often read that the camera doesn't always make a better detection. In terms of features I suggest the (dreame) mova p50 ultra, which had much more features as most other models and is available for 579€, the p50 pro ultra has ai camera, too, but is 729€ (which is unbeatable for its features). So mova is a dreame daughter and they often even work in the dreamer App, but they are always packing much more features than the more expensive dreame versions. But be aware: many manufacturers offer "ultra", "pro" or "pro ultra" versions (sometimes “pro ultra Omni) and often the "ultra" or "pro" versions only have laser object detection, with any manufacturer, so you normally need the "pro ultra" version to get ai camera obstacle avoidance. But still, often it doesn't make too much of a difference, nearly every robot still has problems detecting everything.

The mova e30 is cheap, but has no hot water and hot air drying and no extendable mop and no RGB camera for object avoidance - the same with eufy c20. The dreame l10s ultra has extendable mop and hot air drying and the old version, same as the heat version have ai RGB camera object avoidance, BUT be aware that the new l10s ultra gen2, is cheaper but is missing the camera for obstacle avoidance.

I have the same with the HACS integration which works very well. It can also be reflashed with Valetudo to go completely offline in case they discontinue the cloud service

I ordered the l10s ultra gen2

Dreame l10s ultra gen 2. Got it for ~$600 on German Amazon.

I have this one it works great

I have a DreameL10 ultra gen 2, bought on sale for €460 euros some months ago. I preferred it to the Dreame X40 (it was 800 and I didn’t seem to justify how more expensive it was, given how much the price goes down in a year). Did I make a mistake? Does it really change SO much compared to the now high end ones? My idea was using this for some years, and hopefully get one for the same price or a bit more expensive in the future, if the technology really advances. Any random thoughts on it? Edit: no kids, no pets, just a lot of cooking

In general, you want a LIDAR combo robot with spinning mop pads from one of the reputable brands: Roborock, Dreame/Mova, or Eufy. Ecovacs/Yeedi would be included in this list, except they haven't been doing as well with their more recent releases. The Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 has good reviews, and its predecessor was one of the best robots of the past few years. Be sure to buy it from an authorized vendor with no-hassle returns; if you get a faulty unit, support for most of those brands can be poor. I'd avoid ordering directly from the manufacturer for that reason. Eufy will likely have the best support, but even they mess up occasionally.

So an unknown brand just came out with a fairly pedestrian robot with stationary-pad mopping, and it has a higher rating than some of the highest-regarded robots on the market? Nope. If you really need mopping on a budget, take a look at the Dreame D10+, Eufy L60 Hybrid, or one of the Roborock Q series robots. For a big improvement in mopping for not much more money, look at the Eufy C20 or Dreame L10s Ultra series. Mova can be good, if they've solved their problem with fragile front wheels. If you don't care about mopping, look at the Eufy L60 SES or SwitchBot K10+.

Ik heb niet die heat maar de L10 Ultra Gen 2. Ben echt te spreken over dit ding. Ben minder fan van de app (niet buggy maar wel ff uitzoeken hoe het werkt + ietwat slechte vertaling). Maar als je er een beetje omheen werkt werkt ie top! Kan niet meer zonder!

Hey. Incredible timing on your question. I got the Xiaomi X20 Max. I was happy with it for a few months, until it started acting weird, couldn’t find back to base, would not listen to instructions etc. So, 4 months later (last week), I contacted Amazon and was able to return it for a full refund. Although I wanted the l40 ultra, which is at a great price right now, I got the Dreame l10s Ultra Gen 2 instead, also at a great price. I got to say I’m SUPER happy with how Amazon handled this and that’s also why I got the Dreame from them. Are you looking at these above specifically or anyone else you are considering? Happy to help you navigate.

I did look at that one and looked really good on paper but it’s above budget priced originally at 9990 but on sale for 7990 SEK, which is the lowest price it’s been at.

Just got the ls10 ultra and love it for my situation. It cleans good and does everything I expect it to.

I got the dreame ls10 ultra gen 2 for 350

Their site. Just went and looked and their sale percentages have changed. So must have been having better sales a few months ago.

Im in the same situation, went for ultra gen 2 as I have only heard good things. Extended mop arm and cleaner solution compartment did it for me

I kept gen 2 and im extremely satisfied with it. 10:10 buy. Occasional error on abnormal water level in washboard (a known error) but its actually sensor related so i dont mind

I got the l10s ultra gen 2 after i returned the x40. Mopping is the exact same with the mop extend function, hot mop wash did not make any difference imo. The extending side brush isnt perfect either i was pretty dissappointed since it kept missing some corners. Obstacle avoidance is much better on the l10s ultra gen2 in my case, the x40 kepet getting confused and lost, also the cleaning duration was much longer.

dreame L10s ultra gen 2 for 400€ super happy with it

I’m happy with my Dreame L10S Ultra (gen2). It’s not integrated with Home Assistant though, does not seem to be an easy setup to integrate it although possible.

I have tested this integration already, and I’m only using the Dreame app (Not the Xiaomi app that this integration asks for)

Wij hebben sinds 2 weken dit exemplaar: Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2. Makkelijk te bedienen via de app, stofzuigt en dweilt goed. We hebben een langharige hond en een hoogpolig tapijt. Tot nu toe geen klachten. 450 euro op coolblue

So I bought a Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2. And when I used it for a while and was happy with it, I bought another one for upstairs.

Dreame L10S Ultra Gen2 is an great choice! I have 2, one for each floor. If you have pets or people either long hair, get an additional Tricut brush from AliExpress and you’re set!

I would get a DREAME L10s Ultra Gen 2 that’s refurbished off of ebay for $349. (If you don’t have ebay in your country check the equivalent e-commerce site that is)

Costco had it for 329,99 for like 3-4 days (last week). I would say wait for black friday if you are not in a hurry, I don't think it's worth 400. Also, dreame bots run full mode on reddit, that's why you see it being suggested so much. It's actually quite mediocre.

I just got this one a few days for £379 from a website called my gizzmo.. was suspicious but next day delivery and all is good. Seems good so far I think it’s the best for the price

Nice, fyi I got like no update emails from them and then my order arrived from dpd on the Tuesday (I also ordered on a Sunday). Enjoy it’s a good wee machine but the app takes a while to figure out. Wouldn’t recommend the mop&vac mode which is the default one, I’d do vac first then mop. Also when it does its mapping at the start move anything off the floor that isn’t permanent, mapping only takes 10 mins

It’s one of the cleaning modes, it’s either vac, mop, vac and mop simultaneously, or vac first then come back and mop. Idk I just found it did a better job when it vacuumed first and then went back and mopped, plus even though it can lift its mops pads, it means the mop pads stay dry initially so no carpets can get wet

Not sure think the bags have to be Dreame ones. No I haven’t tried other cleaning solution but it only applies that when it’s cleaning the mop pads at base, it’s not actually rubbed into your floor I believe

I know it’s not on the original list, but I bought the Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 for £400 and it is amazing considering the price I paid. It may not have the advanced features of the L40/X40 like extending brush, mop detach, better obstacle detection, cleaning detection etc but for me it vacuums well, mops well, and the object detection is pretty good. Overall, I am pleased with my purchase and feel I have got a lot of features for my money.

Hey — good question. Honestly, Dreame handles carpets a bit better than some earlier Xiaomi models (especially when comparing to S20+), but you’re not totally wrong that long hair / shag carpets still trip up most robot vacuums sometimes. For L10s Ultra Gen 2: * On *low to medium pile carpets*, it's quite consistent and follows straight lines better. * On *high pile or long hair carpets*, it can sometimes hesitate or hunt for a clean path like you're describing — especially if the fibers confuse the obstacle sensors or trigger extra lift adjustments. * One trick: using the map divide tool (like syunz mentioned) to isolate carpets as a separate custom room can sometimes help tighten up navigation passes. * If your carpets are unusually thick, none of the Dreame models will be flawless, but Gen 2 is definitely more stable than Gen 1 or Xiaomi S-series. If you share the carpet height/type I can also give a better idea where L10s Gen 2 might shine (or struggle).

Hey — honestly both are excellent, but a lot depends on how much you want to future-proof. For your 200 m² house: * **L10s Ultra Gen 2** will definitely handle the size no problem, solid mopping, and you’re already getting hot water mop washing which is a huge step up from the original L10s Ultra. * **X40** gets you more AI avoidance, better edge cleaning, more flexible mop lifting, and smarter route planning — it does a bit better avoiding cables, socks, etc. And yes, it tends to track with floor lines better because of the newer pathing. If you’re mostly worried about "is the $330 difference worth it" — in a big space like yours, the X40’s better object avoidance and slightly faster clean times *do* start to add up over time. But the Gen 2 is still a very, very strong value. TLDR: If budget’s flexible, go X40. If you want the best price/performance combo, L10s Ultra Gen 2 is already great.

**Top-tier robot mop + vacuum combo** * **X50 Ultra / X40 Ultra Complete / L20 Ultra Complete** Best for hands-off cleaning. These do everything: self-empty, self-wash, auto-lift mops, smart mapping, and obstacle avoidance. Great for families, pets, and large homes. **Best value all-in-one (newer releases)** * **L10s Ultra Gen 2 / L20 Ultra / L10s Plus** These still have mop pads that scrub and self-clean, but with slight differences in cameras, suction, or base station design. L10s Ultra Gen 2 is often the sweet spot for price and performance. **Midrange with rotating mop pads** * **L10s Pro / L10s Pro Gen 2** Rotating mop pads and strong suction, but no auto-empty. Still great for apartments or anyone who doesn’t mind dumping the bin every couple days. **Entry-level with base station** * **D10 Plus** Lidar-based mapping and self-emptying for cheap. No mop scrubbing, no fancy avoidance, but it works. Just don’t expect miracles on rugs or with wet messes. **Quick rules of thumb** * Want it to wash its own mops? Look for **Ultra** models. * Want it to vacuum for weeks without touching it? Look for **Plus**, **Ultra**, or anything with “auto-empty.” * Have lots of cables, socks, or pet toys? Get something with obstacle avoidance: **L10s Pro**, **L20 Ultra**, **X40/X50**, etc. * Hate tangled hair in the brush? Look for **TriCut** or **rubber dual-brush** designs (L10s Gen 2, X50, L20). Let me know your budget and I’ll help narrow it down.

If they’re the same price, I’d personally lean L10s Ultra Gen 2 — it’s been out a bit longer so the firmware is rock-solid, and you get full compatibility with accessories and parts. It also has the TriCut roller, which is better for hair pickup (especially if you’ve got pets). That said, the L40 Ultra CE is newer and has some tweaks to the cleaning module and obstacle avoidance. It's also slightly smaller and might navigate tight spaces a bit better. You really can’t go wrong — it mostly depends on your priorities: L10s Gen 2 = proven, better roller, wider compatibility L40 Ultra = newer AI, compact design, still very capable If you're curious, here's the [official Prime Day page with both](https://tin.al/Prime_Day) — sometimes there’s a coupon on one but not the other. Worth checking before you buy.

# TLDR: Get the **L10s Pro** if it's within budget. If not, **D10 Plus** is the best bang for the buck **with a base**. Auto-empty is a game-changer in a dusty home. # Model Rundown: # ✅ L10s Pro * **Best cleaning performance** of the group (top-tier suction + obstacle avoidance) * **Does wet mopping well** with rotating pads * No base, but solid overall * **Best for large apartments** if you don’t mind emptying it manually # ✅ L10s (non-Pro) * Older, still solid * Has AI navigation and **comes with an auto-empty base** * Slightly weaker suction than Pro, less smart avoidance # ✅ D10s Pro * Decent suction and basic lidar nav * **No base** * Good for smaller or simpler homes — not ideal for large, dusty spaces unless you’re OK emptying it often # ✅ D10 Plus * Similar to D10s Pro but **comes with a base** * Very basic navigation (bumps into stuff sometimes), but **great value** for the price # Why the Base Matters (especially with dust): If your place gets dusty and you’re busy (or just hate emptying bins daily), the base makes life *so* much easier. You can go a couple of weeks without touching the robot. Totally worth it if that’s a pain point. # 🏆 Recommendation Based on Budget Priorities: * **Top pick overall**: L10s Pro (best clean + navigation, even without base) * **Best value with base**: D10 Plus * **All-around balance**: L10s (base + decent mopping) Let me know your price ceiling and I can tell you exactly what to grab and what to skip.

Yep you’ve already got one of the most balanced bots Dreame has made. The pop-out edge brush on the newer models does help on baseboards and chair legs, but it’s not game-changing unless edges are your #1 complaint. Suction numbers look wild on paper, but in real life the jump isn’t double the clean—it’s more about handling heavy rugs and deeper pile. Twin rollers are a bit nicer if you’ve got pets that shed a ton, otherwise your single rubber roller is fine. Hot water mop washing does leave pads fresher, but for day-to-day floors cold water isn’t holding you back. If you’re happy now, I’d ride the L10s a while longer. The “worth it” upgrades really only show up if you’ve got tricky rugs, a lot of pet hair, or you want every edge spotless.

Honestly, the L10s Ultra Gen 2 still holds up really well against the newer models — most of the upgrades are more about refinement than night-and-day differences. A few notes: * **Edge cleaning brush**: The pop-out brush on the L40/X40 does help in certain layouts, but it’s not magic. If your home has lots of obstacles and shorter wall runs, you’ll still see some misses. * **Suction**: The jump from \~11kPa to \~22kPa sounds massive, but in everyday cleaning the improvement is more modest — especially on hard floors where the L10s already does fine. It’s most noticeable on thicker carpets. * **Brushes**: Twin rollers are genuinely helpful for pets. They grab more hair and are less prone to tangles compared to the single roller, so that’s the biggest dog-owner benefit. * **Hot water washing**: Nice to have, but not a deal-breaker. It keeps mop pads fresher and helps with greasy messes, but cold wash + detergent tablets still does a solid job. If your L10s is already keeping up with your home, you’re not missing anything critical. The upgrade is worth it mostly if you want **less hair hassle** or if you have lots of carpet where stronger suction pays off. Otherwise, you’re in a good spot sticking with the L10s.

The L10s Ultra Gen 2 gives you more long-term flexibility than the Eufy. Stronger pickup, fewer issues with tight spaces, and way more control in the app. Add the optional Tri-Cut brush, and it handles long hair like a champ. It’s the better buy if you want real cleaning power without babying it.

People can get way too hung up on how the map *looks* or how “efficient” the pathing seems. Yeah, Dreame bots don’t always hug walls as tightly as Roborock — that’s a fair gripe — but they usually make up for it with better obstacle avoidance and less furniture-bumping chaos. The Q Revo’s edges might look sharper, but the Dreame tends to leave fewer scuffs and tangled cables behind. End of the day, I’d rather have a careful cleaner than a fast one that acts like it’s speed-running my living room.

Dreame’s pathing tends to trade a bit of pace for object detection and gentler turns — you see it most when the sensors do that little “pause and think” dance around legs or trim. It’s not wrong, just tuned differently. If you’re still within your return window, I’d say go with what fits your style. The Q Revo’s edge tracking and quick passes are hard to beat if you like fast, predictable routes, while Dreame leans more toward quiet, low-impact navigation.

Are you using "Clean Genius"? That kind of behavior (slow, hesitant pathing or “circling” sections) can actually tie back to **Clean Genius** mode in the Dreame app. When it’s turned on, the robot automatically adjusts suction, water flow, and route density based on what it thinks the floor needs — which can make it *look* indecisive or slow compared to Roborock’s faster, fixed grid passes. If Clean Genius is active, try switching to **Custom** or **Standard** mode and setting your own suction/mop levels. You’ll usually see it speed up right away.

I've got two cats and me with long thick hair that falls everywhere and I've had no problems with the Dreame L10s ultra gen 2. I bought the roller that cuts hair but I haven't even installed it yet! Waiting for the original roller to "wear out". Had the unit about 6 months.

We have the Dreame l10s ultra gen 2 and I'm pretty happy with it. I wish it had the warm water mop pad wash and that it left the mop pads at the dock when it vacuums carpets features, but in reality we've only got 3 mats and the rest of the floors are tile or clip lock wood. I didn't feel it was worth paying twice the price to upgrade the model. I bought a lot of extra mop pads and change them at least twice a week.

Get the dreame Honestly. I had an ecovacs model from 3 years ago, you can see the progress. It's a no brainer for the money Only small downside is it struggles with cables, everything else your fine. Mops great Get one and come back to me if you don't like it I will offer no refund

Yup, and with the Xiaomi vacuum card HACS extension it's perfect 👌

# I recently picked up a Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 and have been really pleased with it so far. That said, I’m curious whether some of the higher-end Dreame models are genuinely worth the extra couple of hundred pounds. A few things I’m wondering about: Edge cleaning brush – the L10s sometimes misses bits along the very edges. The newer models have the pop-out edge brush. Does it actually make a big difference? Suction power – my L10s is around 11,000 Pa, while the newer L40 models claim \~22,000 Pa. In real-world use, does this extra suction really matter, or is it more of a marketing number? Brush design – the L10s just has a single rubber brush, which seems fine. But the latest models come with twin brushes, supposedly better at avoiding hair tangles. Anyone compared the two in practice? Hot water washing – the L10s only uses cold water. Some higher-end models now use hot water for mopping/cleaning mop pads. Does that noticeably improve results? I’m leaning towards just sticking with the L10s, as it’s doing a solid job. But I’d love to hear from people who’ve used both the L10s Ultra and one of the newer models – is the upgrade worth it in everyday use? Thanks in advance

Thanks for your reply generally I've been really happy with the L1 so far but it's only a few days in so interested to see how it holds up overtime. We have a dog so I was wondering whether the double rollers would help with with that and I've also noticed that the robot doesn't always seem to get as close to the edges of the walls as I was hoping I guess in all of the YouTube videos they are big long rooms with no obstacles along the edge whereas in reality most people have shorter sections of wall with no obstacle and then a piece of furniture or something so real world isn't quite the same as YouTube.

I only have low pile carpets and I haven't had a problem with it. The only minor issue is that I needed to create a custom "room" for one carpet as it was placed diagonally to the map. Also when mopping between rooms there's going to be some overlap on the edges and mops the carpet, to prevent this you can place a virtual wall leaving just a small opening and then it will make the robot respect the edge.

If you have carpets that are diagonal to the map or awkwardly shaped you need to create a custom room using the divide map to match the shape of the carpets you have. The current dreame app only supports rectangular carpets.

For me Dreame L10s ultra gen2. I've been using it for 1 month and it's really good. Once set to the best it does an excellent job and you can find it on Amazon for 429 euros.

I don't know, I have L10s ultra gen2

Dreame l10s gen 2 all my life. I'm using it and it works great

Picked up the Dreame l10s ultra gen 2 on sale two weeks back for £320 on amazon, if your willing to spend a little more it also mops, so far its been amazing, very likely it could go around that again.

The L10s ultra g2 is good and should meet all your needs. Be aware the reason these are being discounted is because newer models with roller mops are coming out soon so all the rotating mop versions are being phased out. Still the l10s has decent mopping. The obvious caveat is that one can never really tell unless you try it out yourself. All these robo vacuums have positives and weaknesses and one can’t say if it would be right for your home unless you actually try it. So I would suggest buying it from a place that has easy returns and try it for 2/3 weeks and see if it works for you.

Last month my family bought this [dreame L10s Ultra](https://amzn.to/3DS21Lu) for Christmas and so far it's been doing an excellent job at home, cleaning the carpets and the hardwood floors like a champ. We have a golden retriever dog, her name's Maroma, she use to shed tons of hair but after we got this robot vacuum we'd forgotten about this trouble, In addition to being super friendly with our dog, it avoids her like it is an obstacle.

Yeah, I didn't ask for it. And I don't usually fill in these reviews but they replied within an hour offering the refund. I was happy with it otherwise, but I've bought a Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2  for almost the same price

I didn't actually check. The link they sent to view it requires a Shopify account which I don't have and won't be signing up for (and my AdBlocker didn't like it). Didn't require an account to leave the review though. This is the link from "click here" [https://accounts.shopify.com/lookup?rid=fa3aff75-cd1b-4a1e-840c-3efa0cc0f029&verify=1758018437-V%2BbI4LQoiZaVv1QvvKHgKDQ5z0fmv9ExYjR%2FpGrxJ40%3D](https://accounts.shopify.com/lookup?rid=fa3aff75-cd1b-4a1e-840c-3efa0cc0f029&verify=1758018437-V%2BbI4LQoiZaVv1QvvKHgKDQ5z0fmv9ExYjR%2FpGrxJ40%3D) https://preview.redd.it/28w0zf1z7ipf1.png?width=1476&format=png&auto=webp&s=7797e91350adae4f8827dbd36748963a0c19c2f7 Again, I didn't ask for a refund, they just decided to offer me one after I left the review and confirming that HA was not supported on this model. I was actually quite happy with it, just disappointed about the lack of integration.

Just as an update on this. Set up the Dreame LS10 Gen 2 Ultra last night. I considered that the Q10 S5+ done a decent mop of the kitchen floor, or so I thought. The difference with the Dreame is night and day. So much so, that I now consider the 3\* review that I gave to the Q10 to be very fair. Not tried with HAOS yet but either way, for around the same price, the Dreame is way, way better.

We started with a cheap Eufy. Vacuum only. Very little intelligence. Was always blown away at how much fine dust it picked up. Would brag about it when people laughed. Just last week upgraded to a Dreame 10LS Mop/vac. Bloody awesome. 3 level house fully mapped with no go areas like our walk in shower. We have area rugs throught our hard wood floors and this thing does not skip a beat.

I have 2 Dreame L10S, the gen 1 and the gen 2. about $400 each. they work very well and integrate into HA.

My x50 is great!! 😊 best robot vac I’ve ever invested in. Owner for a 4 months but it’s suction and mopping ability really help maintain home cleanliness and we love all the app featrues. I still use a cord less z20 when I need to do more deep carpet cleaning. Also places the bot can’t go I do need to grab my z20 to do places that robot just can’t go. Upgraded from a L10sgen2 which was great for about 4yrs. We almost bought the x40 ultra but really wanted that extra suction and dual detangle brush.

Dreame gen2 is better ;)

Dreame l10s Pro Ultra

Got this too, hoping it’s at least close to as good as these newer options

I noticed that there are no reviews about this robot anywhere so I decided to write a few lines in case it can be useful to someone. I bought a Dreame L10S Pro Ultra first for 550 euros during Black Friday, but I resisted it because it was sold to me as the "heat" version but it wasn't. I understand that hot water can be of little use but if I pay for a product I expect the one requested to be delivered! So I bought this Mova s20 Pro Ultra which I paid 450 in a flash offer (official cost in Europe 699). The features are: - double rotating silicone brush, PA8300 suction - RGB camera with LED and lidar sensor - Vibrating floor washing system at 4050 vibrations per minute - Self-emptying base, automatic detergent dosing, drying and washing cloths with hot water (60 degrees). I scanned the house, about 110m2 in less than 10 minutes and then once I loaded the water and detergent I did a vacuum cleaning plus washing together. The first thing I noticed is the silence compared to the L10S Pro Ultra! Each suction setting was quieter and I didn't think so given the double brush. The job was completed in about 70 minutes and was very precise and impeccable. Much better than the Dreame that sometimes had not exactly linear cleaning paths. My floor is made of hard tiles with wide joints and it had no problems. Even the washing was perfect although the house is mainly clean and without animals or children. Unlike the Dreame, this Mova can clean the edges but by swinging like other robot models which is very effective but takes much longer. So I don't do it every day but that's fine with me. Unlike the dreame, the settings do not include the options to perform a double wash if it detects dirt or a stain on the floor (but in the end I don't care since, as I said, the house is clean). The rubber brushes can be retracted by about 7 cm but I haven't found anything about it in the settings... maybe something that does it automatically. While the washing cloth can be pulled up by 10.5 cm when it detects carpets (it has an automatic sensor like the dreame). Even in this robot I can remotely access the camera which also has LEDs that turn on automatically in the dark. For the price I paid during the sales, 449 euros, I am extremely satisfied with the purchase especially for the precision in cleaning the house and the double brush suction power, as well as washing the floor. The noise is also a plus. Last note of concern, the battery recharged more slowly than the dreame, but it lasted much longer. Cleaning with washing the dreame brought the battery to about 65% while with this mova 75%. So excellent I would say! If you have any questions I am available! I hope it can help someone interested in this robot!

I'm using the Dreame L10s Pro Ultra since a few months and found it to be really good for both vacuuming and mopping. It's currently for 60k on amazon. Just FYI, be careful while buying robot vacuums from amazon as there are a lot of scam sellers which never send the product. Only buy from official accounts.

Ugh I have the dreame l10s pro ultra

Well the only real way to manage such cat fur is with a real vacuum like a miele or Sebo. My Miele compactifies months of kitty crumbs & fur like a champ (no cotton candy fur effect here). I use a dreame l10s ultra as my robot. I don't rely on the robot doing deep carpet cleans as I real vacuum about once a week but the dreame has been excellent with kitty floor and my long thick hair (with the dreame cutting brush). The q revo curv is the best robot money can buy right now so ofc that's the best recommendation. I like the dreame better for tighter margins and being more intrepid about mopping next to rugs. Get the dreame x40 master if you can afford it and do the water hookup as the water hookup is one of the final frontiers for a hands free robot. The dreame l10s ultra is sufficient and can empty its bin regularly to deal with kitty floof, but running it everyday should avoid any bin clogs. I would say the dreame l10s pro ultra is worth getting for hot water and water dirtiness sensor (advanced new mopping features). If you want the most advanced vacuum features get the roborock q revo curv. Checkout vacuumwars for feature comparisons and checkout RTINGS for some more grounded opinions. Overall stick with dreame and Roborock. They're repairable with great customer service and parts availability. One thing, the roborocks are SIGNIFICANTLY quieter than the dreames, but Pepperoni doesn't mind the dreame running. The Miele is ofc quieter than the robots on max power tho. Overall a robot is an amazing, indispensable companion to a bagged vacuum in a pet home! With my robot running multiple times daily, I almost never feel the need to "on demand" vacuum anymore.

Yeah there are for sure a lot of models and features to keep up with for these robots, especially considering a flagship model last year was $1800 with worse features than a basic $350 model today. Vacuums wars certainly gives every match the best review but it seemingly forgets ownership so I take his reviews with a grain of salt. RTINGS seems to have an opposite issue but I still value their objective measurements. Overall id say stick with roborock or dreame. Roborock has the nicest app and experience, while dreame (imo) is the best for mopping despite its app being a little tacky and poorly translated. At that price point I'd try and go for the roborock q revo pro. It has advanced mopping features like hot water & turbidity sensor and the mop leggy but doesn't have expensive features like a lifting main brush or camera obstacle avoidance. The other great option is the dreame l10s ultra pro. It also has hot water, turbidity sensor, and a mop leggy, but also has a camera avoidance system, which is... Okay in my experience. Not as good as the more expensive robots. If you don't need advanced obstacle avoidance or advanced vacuum features (leaving mops behind, dual roller, lifting roller) then I'd get one of those two. I personally own a dreame l10s ultra (and trialed it against a roborock q revo, which didn't work as well in my mopping situations). There are other minor differences between the two but they're able to be overcome. Dreame also has an excellent hair cutting roller brush available for their cheaper robots. Both brands sell their 1st part accessories on AliExpress for far cheaper than Amazon. Good luck & enjoy.

So I bought a q revo and dreame l10s and compared them directly and ended up keeping the l10s because it seems to do a better job of mopping (and is willing to mop in skinnier areas of my hard floor around rugs). I don't mind the worse app with dreame, it's completely usable and reliable, just with weird translations. I genuinely like the roborock carpets first feature but I don't miss it with scheduling. If you can afford the l40 ultra, that's what I would buy for the best features (hot water mop washing, self cleaning washboard, water turbidity sensor, mop extend & lifting brush, hair cutting roller). How much more expensive are the premier q revo models in your area (the master, slim, edge, curv)? If theyre the same price (or you can afford the slight increase) I'd get those for the best of both worlds: premier features and the superior roborock app.

Any of the rotary mop roborocks or any dreame. I guess dreame bc roborock q revos don't have soap containers. The newest roborocks can mop with warm water, which is insanely good. And they wash the mops with water hotter than tap, which is also amazing. It depends how badly you want the low profile of the retractable lidar? I really love the warm water mopping of the q revo curvx but I think I'd still go with the dreame x50. The dreame l10s pro ultra is also great for its price and adds some warm water and water testing. It sounds like you really care about handling the gray water so no matter which you'll get you'll want to plumb them in. The price of the dreame x40 master I think is amazing for being a plumbot ($900) but it's missing some of the newest features, tho not super lacking.

3" fibers but a little flat. All my robots this far have gotten bogged down on it. Roborock qrevo and dreame l10s at least made it off 🤷🏾‍♂️ I think the adaptilift robots may work for it.

Yeah with people making retail purchases like a robot vacuum, I would advise buying 2, trialing them, and returning one. It's a huge purchase so it should be perfect 🤷🏾‍♂️ If they have the credit/capital to do that ofc. I did that for the original q revo vs my dreame l10s. I didn't think the roborock commanded that $100 price difference at the time (for me).

I have an elderly cat and the worst case scenario is usually small bits of poop. Which ice cleaned off my robot a few times which isn't the worst... But if it's regular puddles I wouldn't. I have a dreame l10s which has a camera without a fill light and the object avoidance is pretty bad/mid. Apparently the newest robots are better especially with identifying puddles? So maybe? But be prepared to clean them lmao. Good news is they're very easy to clean/disassemble and deep clean.

So I've completely disassembled a few different brands of robot vacuums. Not all of the newest ones especially, but some of the newest, especially my dreame l10s. Dreames and roborocks are really well built imo. A lot of easy screws and the various modules have their connectors built in. They also tend to have their exterior most parts free of major electronics should they need to be stripped and washed. I've put my robovac parts through the dishwasher (make sure yours doesn't have exposed heaters). Plastic shell pieces, dust bin, and filter. Vacuum out the bin/filter/machine first 🙏🏾 I assume the movas are the same. The three are within the xiaomi family of brands so I assume the third is built like the other two. Ecovacs are a lil nightmare to take apart bc their wires are unruly. And you can't even strip the bottom plate or suction area easily to clean or replace. It's doable but only if necessary. I've done some older eufys which seemed good so 🤷🏾‍♂️ Roborocks and dreame, being the most popular seem to have the best part availability as well. Roborock used to have a huge warranty on their s8maxv (5yrs) but reduced it now to 1 on everything I think. The movas have a 3 year warranty which is cool. Refurbished units from eBay, direct from roborock and dreame also come with 2 year warranties (mostly). I guess because poop etc gets smeared into the brushroll chamber mostly, if it's a small enough volume, being able to replace that more easily is nice lol. I haven't had to remove it from the brushroll motor to wash it but maybe that's possible. These machines are dense with electronics and wires but are built well imo so if you're willing to take care of and maybe even go a little diy they'll definitely last 5 yrs. My roborock s5 still works, and now that's 4th hand (I was the 3rd hand lol). I'd only buy them from the xiaomi family, roborock especially if I had the disposable money. I have a long haired rug I'd like to see it clean 🤩🤩 There are roborocks at basically every price point, dreame at the lowest, but the dreames have more features at comparable prices, mostly. Roborocks app is much nicer and I've found their machines are much quieter. They also tend to just do everything better lol. The roborock master is at crazy low prices rn (new & eBay refurb) and it has their obstacle avoidance that should detect puddles. It sounds like you really need obstacle detection so the cheapest I'd go is the mova p10. It apparently has the same sensors as the p50 (which reacts to puddles). And it's a little more expensive than the cheapest (mine) or the in between, glam version of mine: the l10s PRO ultra. The robot names are becoming a bit much but there is some reason to them...

I already picked up two of the Dreame L10s Pro Ultra, one for myself one as a gift. A lot of choices out there and I bounced back and forth before pulling the trigger on this version. Hopefully it's a good option.

Bang for buck - mova p10 ultra Money is no object/I want the best - roborock Sara's 10r or dreame x50 ultra Budget/cheapest option changes alot based on sales. Just the other week I bought a refurbished L10s ultra for $240 Honorable mention - the new eufy e28 can be had for $800. I think its worth considering because the roller mop system they have going seems to do really good for mopping in general.

It was fine but I returned it for 2 reasons 1) not great in corners (as expected) 2) if I forgot to pick up a wire, this thing was gonna send me an alert while I was at work telling me " mop pad came off" The L40 was on sale this week so I upgraded.

L10 ultra owner here, well I got rid of it, in 1 year it started falling apart. Was unable get water from the dock, then eventually vacuum stopped, went back to Roborock. They are also not super durable but way better than dreame, not touching dreame again.

As far as I can see the mops are spinning out not roller mops, which do clean the mops while mopping, for what it's worth. I have a LS10 ultra with spinning mops and it does a good enough job

I have the 10s ultra, I think? I flashed it with Valetudo.

I'd probably go with the Dreame. You'll get better mopping with the spinning pads (plus washing/drying), and better obstacle avoidance with the camera. On the flip side, the higher suction with the Q10 would help with the litter.

I purchased a dreame l10ultra or something idk all i know is its overall cheaper than a cleaning lady and my stepson has horrible allergies and i cannot put a price on reducing the dust/hair/grime around the house to lessen his post nasal drip hacking by 1% 🤪 i kid…. I want him to be healthy and i love my cat. The cleaning robot helps both be true at the same time!

Highly recommended this if privacy is a concern for you. Go through valetudos list and find one that fits your needs, then wait for a sale. Personally I'm using a dreametech l10s ultra

I had a midrange roborock s5max for about 4 years. Just upgraded it because I wanted obstacle avoidance and self emptying. I bought a midrange dreame l20 I don't regret it.but the feature i wish I had but wasn't willing to pay for was the extendable corner brush. It wasn't worth $400 to me. It is also so careful with the object avoidance that it won't go into areas that were easily cleaned by my less fancy old robot that i still run sometimes for that reason. It's also very slow but i don't know if that's all object avoidance vacs or if newer higher tier ones are faster. I owned a dreame l10 ultra for a few weeks and returned it because the lack of led lights meant the obstacle avoidance camera couldn't detect in the dark.

This is great! I’m surprised to see the Dreame L10 Ultra takes the top spot for under $400. I bought mine seven months ago and it’s been broken the majority of the time with very little support from the company. Today they agreed to refund, we’ll see if they actually do. I did love it when working so looking for a mop/vac auto empty/cleaning and will definitely use this list. Thanks!

Xiaomi X10+ / Dreame L10Ultra is great, it has everything. Dreame L10 Prime is probably the cheapest I have used, less features and for mopping it was OK. Roborock revos are great but usually costly. Roidmi Eva was pretty dumb robot avoid that.

Not a single new Roborock until they fix their new brushing system, the cleaning quality have dropped alot since S6/7. Atm dream Ultra seems to be the best choice if you got the money.

Yeah, according to those test I’ve seen. But you guys seems to have more alternatives, NARWAL is not an alternative here and eufy isnt something you link as a strong brand, more like a cheap alternative. But with that said, I havnt seen test of those 2 and can’t say if they are good or bad. Real reviews on youtube is the way to go to make sure.

I was in the same boat, but with Black Friday sales both the roborock qrevo (refurbished)and dreame l10s ultra (new) are available for $359. For that price it’s hard to justify spending 2-3x as much for a few extra features which don’t seem to make a huge difference in the actual functionality of the product. I bought a l10s ultra and hope to not think about it again for at least a couple years.

I have two Dreams L10S Ultra’s and really like them. The main reason why I bought them is because it’s possible to put Valetudo https://valetudo.cloud on them.

Maybe if customer support was way more reliable and the prices were halved, I’d consider upgrading from the L10 Ultra. Our next upgrade is going to be to a Matic, heard nothing but amazing things.

well i had actually originally purchased the L10 but then refunded it and got the roborock because i saw online that it was better at vacuuming and mopping. i know its worse at obstacle avoidance but im a pretty tidy guy i just like to keep my windows open which tends to collect dust inside so i figured the roborock may be better. i am also taking my robot with me abroad where i study and ive seen (all though very few) some instances where people had their dreame break down on them within a month and require maintenance. i study in a country with no real mailing services and no service centers for any of the mentioned companies so my thought process was to get the “most” reliable brand.

Any with dual rolls will do much better. Silicone rolls will be better than brush rollers. I had a few Shark vacuums and they all tangled up like crazy in days. I have a Dreame L10 Ultra now and I've literally never had to detangle the brushroll, even with 4 cats and 2 people living here with long hair.

We have a L10s Ultra and after 3 years it doesn't mop properly anymore. There does not come enough water out of the vacuum. It mops dry. We took it to our local dealer and they looked into it and couldn't fix the problem. Would not recommend it. Such an expansive tool should work longer.

I like these comparisons. Thankyou. I’m using the L10S ultra and happy with it for the time being but love seeing what’s ahead for us

I just grabbed a refurb L10S ultra for $320. At that price I figure it’s worth a shot to see how it compares to my older T8+.

The L10S Ultra has got to be the value champion especially at the $320 refurb with 2 year warranty. But definitely seems like things cycle out quick.

Get Certified Refurbished eBay. I grabbed an L10S Ultra for $240 and a qrevo for $330. Dreame and Roborock are the brands. Both units seem pretty much brand new. If you want the latest and greatest, you'll be spending $1.5K plus. Search for deals, as the eBay coupons are timing dependent.

I got it recently and am loving it!!

Hey all! I'd like to formally introduce myself. My name is Justin, and I'm a Robot Vacuum tester at RTINGS. I've tested 30+ robot vacuums since my career started here, and have learned so much from research, testing, and this Subreddit specifically. Some of you might have seen me on here making some personal recommendations in some of the posts in this Subreddit, but Prime Day is a great time to provide some insight on making a decision, since the market is currently overwhelming. **These recommendations are based on products we've bought and tested ourselves**, since we do not accept review or sample units from manufacturers. **I also wanted to disclose that we do make money from affiliate links and ads on our website**, so I will not be providing any links to our reviews. **First step** is to not panic. Figure out the needs of your space, your expectations, and your budget. Write them down and try to narrow it down to maximum 2-3 options. **General expectations** for all robots based on what I've seen and my personal opinion/experience: * **They will not replace your regular vacuum and mop for deep cleaning**, but they will extend the time between your deep cleanings. * **Obstacle avoidance is not that big of a deal if you don't have kids or pets.** Tidy up loose objects on the floor, tuck away cables, and set no-go zones, and you'll usually be good to go. * **You likely don't need to run it everywhere, every day.** Consider your needs and strategize. Use manual configurations, schedules, and spot cleanings over the built-in AI systems to tailor it to your needs. * **They usually always get hair stuck somewhere, especially long hair.** I have yet to meet a robot that has not gotten hair stuck with our standard 2.5g of long hair. That being said, some are better at it than others. * **The maintenance for the mops/water tanks is very frequent**, but saves more time overall. The general maintenance is usually quick overall, though. * **Recurring costs are generally higher and more frequent than regular vacuums.** You can try third party options for brush rollers, but we usually don't test that. * **Even premium models usually have seal problems** **and do not filter as well as standard vacuums with better HEPA/S-Class Filters.** If you have allergies, most of the robots will shoot allergens back up into the air. Consider an air purifier if you really want one. (The Levoit Vital 200s is great and on sale too) * **Advertised suction is usually not helpful or representative of pickup performance**. The Roborock S7 Max V is a great example of a robot with low advertised suction (5100 Pa) that still remains competitive in hard floor pickup performance to this day. * **Be vigilant of defects, especially on new models.** Brands are pumping out models faster than we can think. In my opinions, there are bound to be quality issues. If you see something wrong, exchange it or go with an older model that has proven reliability. * **Sales will come back. Often. Black friday is right around the corner.** Don't impulse buy just cause of a big sales event. **Dreame L10s Ultra/Pro Ultra ($299 USD/$479 CAD - $399USD/$499CAD) - Best Introduction Robot for Small Spaces** with mostly hard floor. * Decent hard floor performance, fully featured dock, great obstacle avoidance, decent mopping, upgradeable for carpets with the Tri-Cut Brush. * Mid battery-life, cold water and cold air drying (pro version adds heat), have seen complaints of poor customer service from Dreame. Uncertain about long term reliability. * At this price, you really can't go wrong if you just want something to help with day to day cleaning. **Roborock Qrevo Series ($399 USD/$549 CAD)** \- **Best Budget for hard floors** * Great hard floor pickup and navigation. Mid-on carpets. Bad at removing pet hair from carpets. * Awful obstacle avoidance. Decent Mopping * Roborock seems to have a better reputation for reliability. (Based on comments in this Subreddit) **Roborock S8 Max V ($1099USD/$1199CAD)** \- **Best For Carpet and Pet Hair** * Good all around pickup, excels on carpet thanks to its dual rollers. Corner coverage. * Expect hair tangles in the edges of the brush rollers. * Mid mopping performance, so you might have to manually clean hard stains. * Decent Obstacle avoidance, but not the best. * Older flagship. **Ecovacs Deebot X8 Pro Omni** (**$799 USD/ $1199CAD) - Best Mopping** (Not published yet on our website, but we've tested it) * Great hard floor pickup, decent carpet pickup. Okay, at removing pet hair from carpets. * Okay obstacle avoidance on hard floor, bad on carpet. * Excellent mopping. * Unsure of Ecovacs reliability and app experience, as I've seen complaints on this Subreddit before. * Currently borrowing this model, and I'm really impressed with it. I have not experienced any dock leaking, but this is something that I've seen brought up for other roller mop models. **Roborock Saros 10R ($1199USD) - Best overall for most people** * Excellent hard floor cleaning. Decent carpet cleaning. Struggles with pet hair on carpet. Good for mopping. * Excellent hard floor obstacle avoidance, bad carpet obstacle avoidance. * Excellent maneuverability. Slim body allows it to get underneath furniture as low as 3.1" (8 cm). Can also climb thresholds up to 1.5" (3.8cm) in our tests. * Not available in Canada. **Popular Models I'd avoid, but doesn't mean they wouldn't be the best option for you:** * **Dreame X50 Ultra:** It's dual rollers struggle with hard floor pickup more than the dual rollers on the S8 Max V. I also borrowed it for a month to test it in my home, and it would leave clumps of debris everywhere, especially near thresholds. This is based on our testing and my subjective opinion, but it was a miss for me. * **Dreame L40 Ultra:** Controversial, I know, but I was also underwhelmed with its hard floor pickup performance, especially with finer debris. It's decent for carpet, though, and might perform better with the Tri-cut brush. It also scored worse in obstacle avoidance than the Dreame L10s Ultra, which is bizarre since it released 2 years after it. This is another model I borrowed, and was not satisfied with it's cleaning performance in my mostly hard floor apartment. * **Eufy x10 Pro Omni:** It was one of the vacuums I had the most trouble testing due to navigation issues and app issues. Its pickup performance was also pretty poor on carpet, and just okay on hard floor. * **Dyson VisNav 360:** Great potential, but flawed execution and use of old tech make it a bad purchase in my opinion. This thing packed a punch and was excellent at picking up stuff it went over, but the problem was it would frequently miss areas and get lost/confused. * **Shark robot vacuums:** Some of them are good for pickup, but their built quality, navigation issues, and bare-bones app makes question their value. Honorable mentions: * **MOVA P10 Pro:** Best obstacle avoidance in our test out of every single model. Good hard floor pickup, mid carpet pickup, okay mopping. Comments in this Subreddit have mentioned MOVA's manufacturing quality and customer service are question. We had to return our first unit because the dock was non-functional, but the second unit works well. Let me know if you have any questions about my recommendations, and hope this helps out! Edit: I will only be responding while I'm at work, so expect a delay of 24hr for a response. Also added 2 expectations.

The Dreame L10s Ultra is a safe bet in that price range, the pro version adds heated water cleaning and hot air drying which can lower the risk of a smelly mop. You can also upgrade it with the Tri-Cut brush, which claims to cut hair. Thankfully, the rubber brush is fairly easy to clean and takes no more than 2-3 minutes. Edit: I forgot to mention that it's a bit loud. Newer models have better sound management, if sound level is a concern, go with the Qrevo Series.

I'd say maybe look into the Qrevo Slim. I haven't tested it, but the dual rollers will be really helpful with pet hair on rugs, and it should perform similarly to the S8 Max V. For something cheaper, maybe the Mova P10 Pro or the Dreame L10s, and upgrade it with the tri-cut brush. (Keeping in mind that MOVA has had some quality complaints.)

P10 pro on Amazon for $450 and Z60 on EBay for $911 JustADad has been recommending the P10 pro for quite a while now. Is the Z60 worth over 2x the price of P10? Are the additional features worth it? Or should I go with P10 and save some $$ How is the mopping performance on P10? I tried an L10s ultra before and it was terrible at mopping and climbing thresholds

Make sure it can be used with Valetudo We have a l10s ultra and my wife loves that it’s one less house chore we worry about as it’s just a HA button now.

Umm mine does multi floors no problem, if you can install Valetudo you can install map loader. I have 4 different maps on mine. 2 for this house and another for a cabin

Owned one for a few months now and it's absolutely value for money given it's features vs price right now compared to most other bots on the market.

You probably wouldn't be able to get anything to clean that whole space by itself. I have the L10s pro ultra heat and it has a way to hook up for auto fill and drain if you have a way to do that. I would say they could probably top out around 1000sq ft a charge since you're doing hard floors and mopping. You can set it to clean a specific area and have they go off in a relay so the whole area is covered. Dreame has some pretty cheap options that you might want to look into. The L10S ultra is around $400 on sale I believe and you can get a auto hookup I believe.

It can also clog he internal water tank / pump of the vacuum. Happened to my l10s ultra. Had to open it up and remove the residue. I used a non approved cleaning solution though 🙃

Switching from an old l10s ultra 2 years old

Hands down L10s ultra, dont hesitate to get the refurbished ones on ebay

I just got mine and it’s amazing. The only thing that would be nice is the swing arm to get some better edge cleaning instead of it doing the little turn. Its mops don’t lift up high enough on medium length carpet but that seems to be fixed on newer ones.

Do your pets shed a lot of hair ? I've had constant issues with the washboard being clogged with pets hairs in my L10s Ultra and having to clean the washboard constantly, so I'm thinking of upgrading to the X50. How is it in terms of clogging or pet hairs in the washboard after mopping ?

Do your dogs shed a lot of hair ? I've had constant issues with the washboard being clogged with pets hairs in my L10s Ultra and having to clean the washboard constantly, so I'm thinking of upgrading to the X50. How is it in terms of clogging or pet hairs in the washboard after mopping ?

I don't recommend Dreame if you use an Android phone. I bought an L10s last year. It was connecting at first but after a reset it wouldn't connect to my Pixel at all. It did seem to work with my mother's iPhone but that wouldn't be useful for me so I returned it. The other big thing was that when I went to leave a negative review due to all the frustration, the review never got posted. I was fair and simply stated that for me it didn't work well with Android. I rewrote and submitted a few times; there was always a review waiting period but it was never posted. The fact that most of the Chinese robot vacuums are rated so highly on Amazon, and the fact that these companies are connected to Xiaomi has left me very suspicious that the reviews are being manipulated or bought. Many of the YouTube reviews also seem paid without any declaration of being sponsored. In contrast, the reviews from Rtings or news sites were so much more critical. I don't want to support these type of shady companies so instead I bought a Shark which I have to try soon.

I'm between this and the dreame L10S Ugh

Ended up with Dreame

Dreame l10S or l20 if you are trying to save money Dreame x30 if you have a little more money to spend Dreame X40/L40 if you want the best. If you only have hardfloors, the Eufy S1 pro I also like the QRevo Slim if you want something from Roborock but I am disappointed with its Object avoidance capabilities when compared to Dreame and Eufy. Roborock in general is quite trash at obstacle avoidance and it makes it hard for me to trust their vacuums to run on a schedule without having to babysit them but their hardware is solid and reliable. Skip the Eufy x10 that so many shills like. It's got a lot of features that look good but in reality they aren't very well implemented. I had two of them and Eufy partially refunded me for both of them due to my experience with them. Good customer support, but a bad vacuum design that struggles to pick up anything on hardfloors. For the same money I would get a Dreame l10S or L20 instead. I posted my full review here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/AVD9Ph2eHK

Return both and get a Dreame L10S certified refurbished: [https://www.ebay.com/str/dreameinnovation/Refurbished/\_i.html?store\_cat=48519196012&\_trksid=p4429486.m3561.l161211](https://www.ebay.com/str/dreameinnovation/Refurbished/_i.html?store_cat=48519196012&_trksid=p4429486.m3561.l161211) Dreame is running a sale right now and with the coupon code, the L10s is like $300 which is a steal. I have two certified refurbished X40s and they were practically brand new, no sign of previous use. Also comes with 2 year third party warranty so you don't have to deal with dreame's questionable warranty support team. Based on how much you get from returning the shark and roomba, you can get 2 L10s robots or maybe one x30/x40. The Dreame vacuums are far better for the money due to their advanced features like object avoidance and they have good vacuum performance. Roborock has good vacuum performance but severely lacks in the object avoidance realm. Eufy has good object avoidance but not so great vacuum performance. iRobot and Shark are in a tier below Dreame, Roborock and Eufy.

Suction power provided by the manufacturers are just BS most of the time and are not indicative of cleaning power. In general, Roborock has far better vacuum performance than Eufy however Eufy has better customer support and their vacuums with Obstacle avoidance like the X10 and s1 outperform roborock in obstacle avoidance.

I don't think the c20 has obstacle avoidance. Personally, for the money I would pick the Dreame l10S as it has obstacle avoidance that is as good as the Eufy x10, is on sale for like $400 right now and has better vacuum performance than the Eufy's but it's slightly worse than the Roborocks. I think the obstacle avoidance is a very important feature to have if you want to run your robot on a schedule. If you don't mind picking up cords and things the robot could get stuck on, get the roborock as the cleaning performance is better than the other brands at your price point.

I love my Dreame L10S. They have higher end models but this was the most I wanted to shell out.

I have a dreame L10s, L40 and Roborock q8 at the minute. I’m about to order the dreame aqua 10 pro track as I’ve found the spinning mop pads scratch my wooden floors a bit. The performance of the dreames has been great, especially the object avoidance. We have no kids but 2 dogs and 3 cats. The L40 especially is great at avoiding dog toys that get dropped in front of it and the aqua 10 has upgraded object avoidance so I’m hoping it will be even better. I’m veering to the pro track as it heats the water a little and uses cleaning solution on the floor as well

Personally, I think the X40 is a better deal, but I've had good luck with the Dreame refurbs from the eBay official store. Just keep in mind, they usually come in a beat up box and the units are not always thoroughly cleaned either. One of my l10s models came with a smelly dirty water tank because whomever returned it, didn't bother to get all the water out.

roborock qrevo 35A for under $400. better than the Dreame L10s especially for VACUUMING. Dreame maybe better obstacle detection. - I review robovacs for 7 years

You will be hard pushed to find one that is thin enough to get under the couch at 10cm 🤔. I have the Dreame L10s and it will handle everything you have described except getting under things due to its height. It's been brilliant tbh, I don't have to touch my floor it does it all 👍

Yes, I do. We have at home the Dreame L10S, very powerful, friendly with our pet, we have a dog that shed a lot of hair and it cleans like a champ. I think that the best features that could work for you and your family is that it's very quiet while working around, in addition to its auto empty feature. It's really a very good option.

Identify the features you want and go from there. Let the features drive the realistic price. For me that was Lidar, self-empty, mopping pads that spin and not just dragged behind. Those features ended up with me getting a Dreame L10s for around $700

Dreame L10s is what I have with 5 kids. I like it

I read this stuff and wonder to myself did I get the only properly functioning robot but then I remember I have 2 and both of them function just fine. L20 Ultra and L10S. Is it just people with no issues say nothing? Are people not doing regular maintenance? I am not doubting anything said here but am genuinely confused as to how there can be so many issues.

L40 Ultra with current in store promotions will definitely make the decision a lot easier, since it can be had for $399 before tax, plus they throw in free gifts with purchase. It's a better overall model than the L10s with more suction, battery, better self washing and washboard cleaning as well. It's a steal for the price and if you were considering one over the other, I'd say overall L40 Ultra is a great value product in the market right now. Hope this helps narrow down the search a little for you, and if any questions, don't hesitate to reach out. happy hunting!

I've never checked mine empties great - L10s

I have the Dreambot L10s we don't have any tatami so I can't speak to that but I have had literally no complaints.

The firmware doesn’t change in terms of features. The cloud gets replaced by valetudo locally. You can also get one and never hook it up to WiFi. I operated my dreams L10s for about two months by just pressing buttons before I rooted it.

No clue. Never used the first party app. I bought it, operated it without WiFi using the buttons for a while, the rooted it and connected it. This is the suggested way. No initial WiFi prevents enforced updates potentially closing the rooting option.

Un dream l10. Perfect

In der Familie war ich schon immer der mit Putzfimmel. Doch mit drei Frauen an der Hand, davon zwei Teenager, ist man alleine was das Sauberhalten der Wohnung angeht. 🫣 Somit halte ich Hausmeister-like die 240 m2 in Schuss. Doch wie bei einem Garten... bist Du vorne fertig, geht es hinten wieder los. 🤔 Darum ist gestern ein Saugroboter mit Wischfunktion eingezogen. Überraschenderweise sogar mit Unterstützung der Liebsten. Seitdem wienert das Teil durch die Gänge und macht alles hübsch. Ich bin als IT-Mensch vielleicht etwas befangen bei Technik, da ich mich immer über neues geiles Zeug freue. Aber selten fühlte sich eine Anschaffung so sinnvoll an. Es ist toll in Zukunft keine Haarbüschel und Essensreste mehr auf dem Boden vorzufinden. 😍😍😍 Den manuellen Mopp werden wir dann in Rente schicken. Das übernehmen jetzt die beiden neuen Möppse. 😅👍

Yo, das stimmt. Ich dachte erst, dass es auch ohne Möpse geht, aber mit Wischen ist das Teil noch um ein Vielfaches besser. 😍🥰

Genau, hatte eben auch nochmal geschaut. Kamera ist zu sehen. 🤔

In der App von "Dreame" kann ich irgendwas mit Schwellen konfigurieren, hab's aber nicht weiter verfolgt, da es bei uns alles soweit gut geht. Vorhin habe ich gemerkt, dass unser Modell sogar über das Rohrgestell von einem Wäscheständer drübergeht. Da werde ich wohl noch was machen, damit das für ihn eine Barriere ist. Auch wenn es klappt, muss man das Material nicht so quälen. 😅

Das war meine Befürchtung... das das Teil nicht über die Schwellen kommt. Vorhin ist es sogar über das Gestell von einer Wäschespinne gekrochen. Hat sich echt was getan. 😀

Danke schön. 🥰 Genau, so manche enge Ecke bleibt unangetastet, das wäre aber manuell auch so. Dafür kommt das Teil unter Schränke, wo schon lange keiner mehr war. Doch alleine das Nass-Wischen ist so viel wert. Die Kids rennen mit Schwitzefüßen gerne ohne Socken. Schon dadurch lohnt es sich, dass da mal jemand drüberwischt. Und die langen Haare aller Mädels bleiben gerne im Teppich - auch da ist es schön, dass das Teil nun täglich drüber bürstet. 😍

Der X50 Ultra von "Dreame" soll wohl bis zu 4,2 cm überwinden. Und es gibt auch Saugroboter mit bis zu 6 cm "Steigmöglichkeit". Mein Modell soll wohl bis 2 cm können und in der App gibt es die Möglichkeit Schwellen zu markieren, damit diese mit mehr Schwung gefahren werden. Aktuell klappt es ohne diese Einstellungen. Wenn der Roboter mal festhängt, fährt er selbständig zurück und versucht es nochmal mit mehr Schwung. In den 8 Stunden, in denen der kleine L10 jetzt lief, hing er noch nirgendwo fest. Wäre es denn eine Möglichkeit, diese 3 cm bei Dir mit einer eigenen Schwelle zu versehen?

Gerne doch. 🥰 Ich muss zugeben: Man kann mich mit Tech-Krams kaum noch begeistern, aber unser Saugroboter fasziniert mich in der Tat. China, WLAN, Überwachung und Hacking sollte man nicht vergessen, aber wo ist man heute noch wirklich sicher, wenn irgendwo ein Onlinezugang in der Nähe ist? 🫣 Aktuell bleibt der "Dreame" im Gast-WLAN und ich werde wohl nachts die Onlineverbindung kappen. Doch ich bin sowieso schon verloren, da die ganze Wohnung mit Echo Dots ausgestattet ist. 😅

This is the best for fully local robot vacuum. I have 2 Dreame L10s flashed and they work great. Bonus is it's also kind of funny being able to ssh into a vacuum lol

I will 2nd the dreame L 10. I’m fucking amazed at how well it works. We have two dogs and three cats and my wife back moved, prior to buy a mess, daily as well as mopped a couple to few times a week. We wake up every morning with gorgeous clean floors. Like I said, I’m truly amazed. Recent cleaning https://i.imgur.com/BXWtZEn.png

L10 can clean 20m2 in 19 mins in real world use, L20 with more technical cleaning pushed that up to 29 mins, The L40 with the best cleaning and mop extras etc is 36 mins. The x40..... Same setup as the other 3.....47minutes and it doesn't to as good a job as the L10v2..... I'm just giving honest reviewing! I was very surprised the L40 smashed the x40!

YES. It is most definitely that bad. It’s bad on hard floors but god forbid you run it on a carpet. I have a video of it just plowing through fake dog poop on carpets. Edit: I have owned both the roomba j series and dreame l series, and both are so so much better.

I tested the roomba j series and the l series from dreame and both perfectly did the test

I tested the roomba j series and the l series from dreame and both perfectly did the test

Because both my Dreame L series and Roomba J series did the same test flawlessly

For crevices, you need a robot with a bristle main brush. Dreame L series and Mova usually use rubber brushes, which, according to reviewers on YT, don't pick up dust in crevices well unlike bristle ones. Some Roborock model like Q5 Pro, Q8 Max, Qrevo S, and QV35A/S also uses a similar brush. I think if you don't mind with prices, E28 or E25 is a good candidate because its roller mop is superior. Roborock also has a new lineup called S5A which is the cheaper version of Qrevo Edge. Now it's $899 on Amazon. S5A uses a similar Duo Divide split brush as in Qrevo Edge and Eufy E28, a self-empty station, and obstacle avoidance but only using structured light without a live camera.

Got the dream a few weeks ago. It's a game changer. I had a Neato and a few iRobots over the years. With those units, I spent more time pulling out dog hair and untangling rollers than actually using the product. This is a lot more advanced, and with the self emptying, it's pretty great. All I do now is swap out the water tanks every day. Gripes? The mop pad on the base station gets hairy. It has difficulty getting dirt between the edge of the rug and the hardwood floors. It's expensive. All in all, it's a nice machine.

I've got a dreamtech which has self cleaning mops and it does pretty good. I've also got 2 kids and toys all over the floor and it barely gets stuck.

The Dreame robot mop system is our favorite new roommate! We have a new and an older iRobot Roomba vacuums and recently got this one for the main floor. We're very happy with it. It's available in many different price ranges.