Dreame - L40 Ultra

L40 is the best at obstacle avoidance I think The problem is how much do you value mopping because the eufy e28/25 seems to do the best there. And I think all flagships robots will likely switch to their roller style mops in the future because it's just more sanitary to clean the mop as you go. Narwal flow seems like it'll be better the eufy e28/25 when it releases but the price also seems too high That said, e28 seems to perform worse at object avoidance.

I recently got a Dreame L40 and really like it. It can leave the mop pads at the dock, which is a really useful feature if you have indoor cats. You can set it to vacuum first, then return to the dock to pick up the mop pads so it's not dragging them all over with bits of litter stuck to the pads.

Look for a vac that has an extension arm for the side brush and mop pad so it can reach into corners. I got a Dreame L40 Ultra and it has these features but I've only had it a couple of days.

My Dreame L40’s front caster has broken, Costco(UK) telling me just to return…Dreame taking an age to reply to support! If I take a refund, should I replace like for like or can anyone recommend better in a similar price range? Mopping being the highest priority, but a great all rounder would be good!!

Good luck! I returned mine! Having had a Dreame L40 Ultra previously I did not like the eufy app. The mopping was great but did not get true edge cleaning compared to the L40’s spinning pads! Base unit was pretty noisy and I wasn’t impressed that there was no ‘mop after vac’ or ‘mop only’ option.

Wait…then avoid 😆 I just bought this in the UK to replace a broken Dreame L40 Ultra, I was very disappointed.

I got the Dreame L40 ultra around December and super happy with it. Would buy again. The application looks a bit more flaky compressed to Roborock. I got the water kit later and would highly recommend it but budget exceeds what you mentioned. A friend’s dog visits sometimes and I had no issues with dog hair but would need to run it more frequently if you have dogs permanently. I do 3x mopping + 4x vacuuming per week. One is deep clean.

Yea call Michael, +16267459880 at the dreame store. They have amazing deals just bought ours yesterday. Personally I went with the L40 cause it's 430 but still can't go wrong with either

I think they can add the feature via a software update. Bot is literally identical to the dreame l40

My QRevo master is so stupid with object avoidance. My Dreame L40 navigates like a tweaker looking for copper though.. no logic to it

I don’t agree on roller mops. They have small contact patches and bad edge cleaning. Also Ecovacs navigation has been poor consistently with maps getting corrupted over time. I’ve got a Dreame l40 ultra now and it has good edge cleaning, good mop pad cleaning and works more reliably than my two previous Ecovacs ever had. Downsides are that water tanks are too small so need to be filled too often in a larger house and the base gets very dirty and white plastic stains as it doesn’t manage to pull all the mop dirt into the dirty water tank. There were just too many bugs with Ecovacs kit and they abandon the new model within a month or two to focus on the next one. I’m sure Dreame are as bad but it doesn’t matter as much when the software actually works. My last Ecovacs was an x1 omni and added to the above problems is that the battery couldn’t clean the whole floor in one pass and recharge was so slow it would start again (only at 100%) in the evening which was mega annoying. Dreame also can’t do the whole floor but it charges much faster.

The only issue I'm dealing with is my L40 Ultra always leaves debris along room thresholds. Overall, it does a good job though. I will be getting a second one when they get back down to $500 again.

for your area and what you’re looking to spend, I’d go with the Dreame L40 Ultra at $399.99. It’s got stronger suction than the others and a bigger auto-dump bin, so it’s less hassle overall. Honestly, it’s just the better deal for the price. https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1l3j8k7/dreame_storeontario_mills_limited_time_sale_huge/

Hey friend! If you’re looking for a solid vacuum, the Dreame L40 Ultra is a good choice. It’s got 11,000Pa suction so it handles hair like a champ, and it’s fully automated with a base that auto-empties the bin for you. It comes with mop pads too, but honestly, you can just leave those in the base and use it as a vacuum full-time if mopping’s not your thing. Also comes with a tri cut brush for free to help with hair. https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1l3j8k7/dreame_storeontario_mills_limited_time_sale_huge/

I got Dreame L40 for 800€ on black Friday and it is absolutely worth the money. It is not perfect, and it cannot reach every hole and corner, we have a lot of rooms and doors. But the job it does is quite good. Our floors are not very dirty, we leave shoes downstairs and we mostly have hard floor. But the dust is gone and the floors look clean.

I really liked the e28 bot but the base station is really loud. Watch out for that if you are wanting to run it at night. I returned it and ended up with a dreame L40 Ultra. It's actually pretty good

I don't have a wealth of experiences with these robot vacus but it seemed to do a great job when I had it. The L40 Ultra was a few hundred dollars cheaper and for my house, seems to do as good of a job, just goes through water faster.

I also already have a carpet and fabric cleaner so that offered no value to me.

I tried the eufy e28 (way too loud) and the L40 and now I have the mova p50. L40 was ok. Didn't detect my rugs properly and was pretty good on object avoidance but the reason I returned it was because it was always leaving water on the bottom of the base station. Gross water that I'm sure would start smelling over time. The base station or the P50 drains and has always stayed clean. For pnject avoidance, in my experience, it's much better than the L40 and it detects ALL my rugs properly. From what I'm reading on vacuum wars, the ecovacs are good at cleaning but worse than the L40 at object avoidance. We aren't necessarily cleaning up the floors before the vacuum runs everyday and the cats sometimes knock something down like a string that dangles and I don't need my vacuum eating half of it and tearing the house down around it :) I'm so happy with the P50, I bought a second for our top floor I should also add that the L40 is newer than the X40 and I've heard that it's better in some respects. The P50 appears to be between the L40 and the X50.

I haven't had roborock but I have tried the dreame L40. The p50 seems far superior. Identifies more objects, seems smarter and the base station actually cleans itself nicely. The L40 would leave dirty smelly water in the tray

My L40 worked great for 2 months, now the dock doesn't dispense water when cleaning mops or washpad, so there's no longer any mop cleaning. Customer service has been near impossible to talk to

I got the dreame l40 with coupon code it came to 439! So excited

L40 Ultra with current in store promotions will definitely make the decision a lot easier, since it can be had for $399 before tax, plus they throw in free gifts with purchase. It's a better overall model than the L10s with more suction, battery, better self washing and washboard cleaning as well. It's a steal for the price and if you were considering one over the other, I'd say overall L40 Ultra is a great value product in the market right now. Hope this helps narrow down the search a little for you, and if any questions, don't hesitate to reach out. happy hunting!

Hello, If you're looking for something that's great for pet hair, has great battery and sensors for carpets/rugs as well, I'd suggest going for either the L40 Ultra and the X40 Ultra models from Dreame. Both will come free with Cutting Brushes that are designed with fur/hair in mind, and they also have strong suction for cleaning carpets/rugs as well. They don't break the bank either, with current physical store promotions, hope this helps narrow down the search, and happy hunting!

I know I'm a little late on this one, but I also agree that the L40 Ultra when ordered through physical store will get you the best bang for your buck on this robot vacuum, and with the combined suction power, battery, and tricut brush, I think you'll be happy with the results. hope this helps narrow down your search a little, and if any further questions, feel free to reach out. happy hunting!

the mopping portion in my opinion is definitely worth it, considering most models that come with mopping also come with other convenience features beyond just mopping that justify a higher price. Even so, just because you can find good RVC's at a premium doesn't mean you have to pay a premium, the DREAMME X40 Ultra and L40 Ultra are great examples of RVC's that give you good quality of life features and can be had for a better price than the model you we're looking at.

If you look on sales here theres a dreame salesman from the store in LA I think they have a pretty good deal for another month (just bought l40 with free tri cut brush for 448)

I got the DREAME L40 over this because it’s apparently its a bit better and was $100 cheaper. 2 weeks, it’s been a life changer. Home feels way cleaner now. Weekends consist of just cleaning spots it missed. Do deep clean every 3-4 weeks now.

Dreame L40 two weeks here. Amazing for $500.

Been using the L40 for 2 weeks now and i don't seem to have any of those problems, though i have not done the station pad cleaning yet. My only big con is the lack of cleaning without a clear path back to the docking station. I can drop my old robot vacuum in any room i like just press start.

There are much better robots you can buy at the same price or lower. There is the dreame x40 ultra for £1099 which will greatly outperform the deebot x5 pro. It has hot water mop cleaning, tangle free vacuuming with the TriCut brush, and good mopping. Dreame robots have the best edge cleaning out of all the brands. There is the dreame l40 ultra for £849, a much better deal as it is essentially the same as the Dreame x40 ultra except for battery life. Since you didn’t mention having a pet, I think the best value choice is the dreame L10s ultra Gen 2 (£549). Also tangle free vacuuming with the TriCut brush, strong all-around performance, but no hot water mop washing. Just take care of your cables and it’ll do well.

I think the Dreame L/X40 Ultra (choose whichever is cheaper) would be a better fit for you with the TriCut brush. Best object recognition and obstacle avoidance (Narwal is similarly as good) Better vacuuming than the Narwal but not as great as the Roborock Curv (I don’t think that the price justifies its performance) The Eufy S1 pro and the Narwal Freo z are great at raw mopping performance but the Eufy can’t deal with hair well and it seems vacuuming is a bit of an issue. Dreame’s eh raw mopping is compensated by its onboard CleanGenius to help it decide whether to go over areas.

Yes and how well their “self cleaning” base station wash board can clean itself so the dirt is sent into the drainage area to be sucked up into the dirty water tank. When I used mine with a dreame L40 self cleaning tray, I found that hair and too much fur was clinging onto the wipers but did great with household dirt and dust. I was wondering if others had the same issue. This is also why I bought a dreame model with the AceClean system as the drainage holes look big enough to send my dog’s very fine fur into the dirty water tank.

You can also consider Dreame’s X40 Ultra or the cheaper L40 Ultra if your household has long hair. Dreame released the extending side brush and extending right mop first and roborock copied them. A Dreame model with double anti-tangling conical brushes and their enhanced mop cleaning system that works like a dishwasher is likely to be announced for next year. Both Dreame and roborock are the most reliable brands. iRobot used to be as well but their app quality and consumer experience has been declining so I’ve excluded them. If you have only hardwood floors, you can consider the Eufy S1 Pro as its roll mopping is inherently better than those spinning mops. I have doubts about the ozone generator and the chance that the water tank may leak ozone into the air. It’s not good at edge cleaning and the only robot that can clean the edge is only available in mainland china and is miles better than the Eufy S1 Pro. You can consider the Narwal Freo Z Ultra if you’re okay with having to clean the base’s mop tray more and see it twerk.

Glad I could help! I’d recommend the X40U if you have carpets that aren’t easily replaceable or are expensive as it’ll remove the mops to clean carpets. The L40 Ultra is currently a better deal. I will say that my dog’s fur does gather around the part where the mop holder is attached to the robot but it’s easily removable and doesn’t throw the robot into a fit nor affect its actual functionality. But then, this is an issue I found to be common with any rotating mop model. I genuinely have no idea how the fur somehow doesn’t get stuck in the actual mop but goes above it. Dreame’s app is also rather feature rich at the expense of the UI. If you want to purchase any dreame, I’d recommend getting it from an authorized retailer as customer service will be more hassle free. Dreame’s own customer service is only good if you speak Mandarin Chinese. I highly recommend buying the dirty water module from Dreame on AliExpress. It really does work in my experience and it’s genuinely never been stinky, negating the need for me to put bleach in it and shaking it around. Just ask 是正品吗? Which means are the products genuine? If they say it is or it is original, it is the real one. If it’s not they’ll say it’s either compatible or suitable (depends on how AliExpress will translate it).

Currently available in the market and is a general all rounder for both vacuuming and mopping with good anti-tangling: dreame X/L40 Ultra, Roborock QRevo Curv/Edge, Dreame’s subbrand MOVA P10 Pro Ultra if lack of mop removal isn’t an issue and is the cheapest at 659 USD. To be released in a month: Dreame X50 Ultra with the best mop washboard self-cleaning system (preorders are open to purchase it for 1309), Roborock Saros 10R (February release, no preorders) To be released within the first half of 2025 in the US: MOVA V50S Ultra (little is known but I am hopeful), MOVA Z50 Ultra (most is known and it seems to have X40 ultra level vacuuming but much better mopping), Narwal Flow (excited about this one but no reviews anywhere)

There is the dreame L/X40 Ultra with the TriCut brush or the Roborock Edge/Curv which I think will be similar in terms of all-around vacuuming and mopping while having good anti-tangling. The Dreame will have better edge cleaning if that is what you’re after but the roborock will have a simpler ui.

The L40 at £700 is a total steal for online Costco especially with Costco’s generous return policy~ I’m so sorry I forgot that the curv and edge are still not released in the UK market :(

In the US, the Dreame L40 Ultra is 399 USD with an antitangle TriCut brush (very important for friends with heavily shedding pets) if ordered from the physical dreame store in-person and ordered via phone or email. This model is pretty popular along pet owners and great for homes with mostly hard floors.

Check here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Dreame_Tech/s/FG1GZlvzpQ

The Dreame L40 Ultra AE will be the best priced option that fulfills everything. For the cable, the obstacle avoidance will recognize it as a cable and avoid it instead of crossing it so cover it with something.

The only possible con I can think compared to the L40 Ultra is that the sensor array is the older one.

I think the Dreame L40 Ultra will do best in this regard if you value obstacle avoidance and corner/edge cleaning as well. There is also the much cheaper MOVA P10 Pro Ultra which is the exact same model as it is a sub brand of dreame without the mop removal function which isn’t necessary in your use case.

The dreame L40 Ultra will be the most cost effective combo model (438.99 USD with freebies from the physical dreame store that does nationwide shipping) and the best at obstacle avoidance (ecovacs does terribly with obstacle avoidance even with an RGB camera). The roborock has no RGB camera and its ReactiveTech obstacle avoidance isn’t as good compared to its RGB camera enabled one (which doesn’t do well on carpets. For thick wool rugs, a robot vacuum may struggle with this.

If in the US, the L40 Ultra is much cheaper at 399 USD (if ordering from the physical Dreame store) and the P50 Pro Ultra at 799 USD. The P50 Pro Ultra will have better base station self cleaning and better carpet cleaning. Here’s a comparative review of the two: https://youtu.be/LNJ6yK5c2Wc Both the dreame and MOVA will have better navigation and obstacle avoidance than the Ecovacs T50 Pro since the Ecovacs has no led fill light for avoiding things in the dark and the lidar’s field of vision is reduced from 360° for a lidar tower to about 120°. The MOVA P50 Pro Ultra will have the best base station self cleaning. Both the dreame and MOVA have a bigger onboard dustbin at 300ml over ecovacs’ 260ml which means less trips to the autoempty station, especially helpful for pet owners. The ecovacs is also unable to lift its side brush and main brush which means: if mopping up a wet spill it’ll smear liquid around and if just mopping in general the dirty brushes will eventually overlap with the mopping path and make mud in the brush compartment. A lot of other robots like the dreame and MOVA can lift the side brush and main brush which is recommended.

Dreame will have the best obstacle avoidance out of all of these three brands. Its subbrand MOVA sells the P10 Pro Ultra which is nearly identical to the L40 Ultra and discounts bring it to 499-599. The P50 Pro Ultra is like the L40 Ultra but with the X50’s better self cleaning mop tray.

For Eufy, I'd say only the S1 Pro is really good at obstacle avoidance. Eufy's strengths are its customer service and the good mopping in this model. It could be better for vacuuming. For Narwal, I'd say only the Freo Z Ultra is really good at obstacle avoidance. Vacuuming is a weak spot for Narwal as they focus more on mopping. For Dreame, the L/X40 Ultra would be the best at obstacle avoidance, with the X30 Ultra following it. Dreame is also a good all-rounder in cleaning but lags behind Roborock. Dreame excels with edge and corner cleaning. These three brands' models should be the leaders in obstacle avoidance.

I like how Jamie Andrews tests aspects that are advertised for quality of life (self cleaning the dock and using hot water) whereas vacuumwars simply rattles them off like a sales brief checklist. I can confirm Dreame does reach the advertised hot water temperature listed (I tested myself with an electric thermometer connected to the area on the washboard where the water would flow from the pipes) and it usually hovers at about 5-10°C below the advertised temperature before reaching it for a second or two. Don’t know about the new AceClean dock as I don’t have it but Dreame told me any misplacement of the temperature probes will result in measuring errors of more than 10°C.

Would you like it to extend and wiggle the mops? I think this feature is best for cleaning stains under things like fridges or cleaning along the edges if your dog likes to drool along the edges too (mine does). There are three ways for anti tangling to happen. 1. Combs in the brush compartment. This is the least effective way. Ecovacs uses this method but reviewers have found it does get tangled with long hair. 3i and Eufy also uses this technique and I don’t know what reviewers say. 2. Active cutting of hair when it gets tangled Dreame uses this method. This method relies on the hair first getting tangled and then the hair strands will enter a groove where there is a hidden knife to cut the hair, sending it into the dust box with the vacuum fan’s help. Dreame’s brush is also engineered for the hidden knife to move like a razor after 23 revolutions. In my experience, it’s been stellar at long hair and my long haired corgi’s fur. Hair can get tangled on the sides if you use their old brush cover, they have a new brush cover now to cover the non-brush compartment of the TriCut brush and it works great at preventing any hair from getting to the sides. Midea also utilizes this method in a different way. It has really small razor blades built into the top of the brush compartment and is programmed to vibrate like a shaving razor up there to cut off any hair and the vacuum will bring the hair into the dust box. It seems to work well. The less efficient way I’ve seen this implemented is the base station having a blade cut the hair at the brush. The Mijia M30 Pro does this (stupid 3i Robotix) and it doesn’t work very well. The last way is using the airflow itself to get rid of tangled hair. There are brushes shaped like an archimedes screw with the brush fibers at a certain angle so any tangled hair will move to the narrow end of the brush and the vacuum inlet at the narrow end will suck it into the dust box Narwal does this. Dreame’s new models (currently only in mainland china) do this with two conical brushes, one rubber and one rubber and fiber bristles to suit both carpeted and hard floors. They solve a current problem with this conical shape as the narrower end of the brush will have less to no contact with the ground, reducing its cleaning ability. Dreame hid the narrow end and only the parts where it can have contact with the floor are exposed. Roborock also does this with a twist. Instead of the narrow end being to a side, it uses two brushes where the narrow ends point to each other and any hair will hence go to the middle instead of the side. Both the cutting brush and the conical brush design is great for any long hairs. The dreame cutting brush method is more economical as it isn’t restricted to one model only. If you wouldn’t like to carry your base station up, don’t get the Narwal. Although it has a handle for easier carrying, the lack of an onboard water tank means it can only clean about 5-15 square meters before having to clean its mops again. I also wouldn’t really recommend it as after any robot mop combo with a mop cleaning station makes the mops really wet after cleaning it, which doesn’t seem great for your wood floors. https://www.reddit.com/r/CleaningTips/comments/o011xc/how_do_you_properly_cleanmop_wax_finished_floors/?rdt=59160 Roborock does great too. The Q Revo Master Edge is also very tangle free with the duo divide brush. Best computer vision and related cleaning algorithm would go to Dreame’s X/L40 ultra. It’s smart enough to detect pet areas and give it special attention. Next year’s dreame X50 will have double rollers that are designed to be even better than the current TriCut brush. I heard it doesn’t do so well with much thicker strands that can’t fit into the razor compartment so the airflow approach to de tangling hair seems to be a lot better. I would have recommended the Eufy S1 Pro if it was good at dealing with long hair. It is a very solid robot mop. I also have qualms about the ozone generator in the water tank as I’m worried it could degrade the rubber sealing and leak….

Dreame's L40 Ultra will do a pretty good job for a combo robot at 399 USD. Won't be as good as a Dyson Visnav or a iRobot S9+ which are vacuum only models

Best cost efficient choice: dreame L40 Ultra and the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra are 599 USD on Amazon for their Easter sale. Both models are essentially the same save for the L40 having the ability to remove its mops.

A lot of flagship priced robot vacuums vacuum better than the Narwal Freo Z Ultra but the Narwal Freo Z Ultra seems to be king with the smart clean feature. A robot vacuum with flagship level cleaning (and a formerly flagship price) would be the dreame L40 Ultra for 399 USD if purchased from a physical dreame store which will ship across the US for free if you order via phone or email. The MOVA P10 Pro Ultra should be similarly priced and is a good budget friendly favorite. If you want to support a local startup, try Matic robotics’ cute robot which I’d recommend if you want an all in one combo robot with a basic base station. It’s powered by the Nvidia Orin robotics chip so it theoretically is the smartest robot. Currently, it seems the robot is constantly being updated as soon as the software engineers there are aware of an issue. If you want good roller mopping right now and vacuuming carpets isn’t as much of a concern, I’d go for the eufy E25/28 (main difference other than a fabric cleaner is that the E28 has a refillable detergent tank) since it exerts 12N of mopping pressure and seems to mop rather well but vacuuming carpets is another story. The ecovacs X8/X9 only exerts 10N of pressure with the mop but the X9 will vacuum carpets better. More pressure is one of the factors that lead to better mopping.

In Italy, the P50 Pro Ultra costs 899 EUR. The Dreame L40 is at 899 as well. The MOVA is clearly a no-brainer in this case, with a much better AceClean dryboard and a sleeker base station (in my opinion).

This is definitely not exclusive on the ecovacs X9 pro omni. Ecovacs is late to this feature. Models that can do this well: Dreame’s L/X40 Ultra and newer (assuming there’s an RGB camera), Narwal Freo Z Ultra; Roborock Saros series and CurvX, MOVA P10 Pro Ultra, P50 Pro Ultra, Z50 Ultra, V50 Ultra

Eufy is not mentioned because it does not have this capability. Best mopping: Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track and the MOVA Z50 Ultra has the best raw mopping performance. If your pets are stinky, the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track or the MOVA V50 Ultra will be my recommendation as it has the duosolution detergent tank which means it can use a special odor neutralizing solution or your regular floor cleaning solution based on your preferences set in the app. The MOVA V50 Ultra does mop better than the Dreame X50 Ultra because it can spin its mops up to 260rpm when it detects dried on stains and liquids and because it has a new mop pad holder that basically has suspension as it can go up 2mm and down 1mm downwards and tilt up to 5° to put as even pressure as possible on uneven floors. Honorable mention: Narwal Freo Z Ultra. Shame it cannot lift its side brushes. Variable mopping pressure of 8-12N but pales in comparison to the 18N of mopping pressure by the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track and the MOVA Z50 Ultra. Best software for detecting liquids and appropriately dealing with them: Dreame L/X40 and newer including the Aqua 10 pro track based on reviews. The MOVA Z50 ultra and the other MOVA models mentioned are also pretty good too at detecting liquids. Previously mentioned Roborock and Narwal models also seem to do well. I think all the models I mentioned should be on par for automatic remopping. Hardware: All models I mentioned should have a solid build quality.

It depends on tall your thresholds are: For single thresholds: Up to 2cm: most modern robots can cross with no difficulty Up to 2.2cm: Dreame L/X40 Ultra. The dreame models with the EasyLeap wheels (L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and the L50 Ultra) can cross the first threshold up to 2.2cm and a secondary threshold right after up to 1.8cm Up to 3cm: roborock models with the AdaptLift chassis. It can cross a single threshold up to 3cm and a secondary threshold right after up to 1cm. Up to 3.5cm: the MOVA P60 Pro Ultra (mainland china only for now) has active suspension like the roborock Adaptlift chassis and the EasyLeap edge climbing wheels to climb a single threshold up to 3.5cm and a secondary threshold up to 3.5cm. Up to 4.2cm: Dreame X50 Ultra, Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track, and the MOVA V50 Ultra all can cross a single threshold up to 4.2cm if the threshold is shorter than 9-10cm (5.2cm if the threshold is sufficiently long enough) and a secondary threshold up to 1.8cm.

If you want a combo robot, the Dreame L40 Ultra is sold at 399 with the antitangle brush which works great for long hair and mops well.

Under 500 it’s now the dreame L40 Ultra. Best for “infinite budget” depends on home environment.

Dreame’s models from the L/X40 Ultra and newer can clean corners well, both vacuuming and mopping.

What’s your purchasing region (usually country)? this will dictate your available choices. If in the EU, UK, and Australia, I’d go for the L40S Ultra (not the L40 Ultra) as the brushes have been improved to pick up pet hair on carpet. This is a somewhat cost effective combo model. For a vacuum only robot, the roborock Q5 Pro+ or Max+ are popular choices. The Q8 Max+ and Pro+ are also popular and will do better with obstacles.

I’d recommend robots with an autoempty station so most of the maintenance will be replacing the dustbag, tapping the dust out of the filter, and cleaning the robot once in a while. A lot of vacuum only robots with an autoempty base station will be fit in this budget! A popular choice is the Roborock Q5 Max+ or the Roborock Q8 Max+. Combo models will need more care ( you’d also have to refill the clean water tank, emptying the dirty water tank, cleaning the water tanks, and the mop pad cleaning tray). Some have completely removable mop pad cleaning trays which make it more physically accessible to clean. Some other ones don’t. For combo models, the recent sales and discounts have made the Dreame L40 Ultra (438.99*-599) or the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra (599) will be the best priced model given all the self cleaning features it has. I believe both models have a pet mode where it purposely tries to be quieter when it sees pets (dogs and cats alike). It’s cheapest to find the dreame L40 Ultra with the anti-tangle TriCut brush at the dreame physical store which accepts orders placed over phone or email. I recommend these models mainly because the mop pad cleaning tray has wipers that will redirect dirt to the drainage area, reducing the need to clean the area. Unfortunately, the mop pad cleaning tray isn’t completely removable (the base in contact with the water is not removable). Here’s a video on how the mop pad cleaning tray is cleaned. https://youtu.be/kSoxaozdtkU The roborock qrevo models have a completely removable mop tray which makes it easier to clean compared to the Dreame or roborock models. However, I haven’t found a roborock qrevo model at a price as low as the Dreame and MOVA models. The Qrevo QV 35A ($599.99) does have an anti-tangle side brush but no mop pad cleaning tray self cleaning and the lack of an RGB camera means the price isn’t as worth as the other models :( Here’s a video of how maintenance will look for the QRevo models: https://youtu.be/f0NzG5ANyEc Maintenance tips and tricks: For maintenance, please tap the dust out of the filter once every few cleaning tasks or whatever is most convenient for you guys. Mud will build up in the brush compartment of combo models if you set your robot to vacuum and mop at the same time, making cleaning the brush area more often. so I recommend asking it to vacuum first then mop so the need to clean the brush compartment will be less often. Combo robots require the base station’s mop pad cleaning tray to be cleaned once every two weeks or so (I suggest leaving it alone and finding the ideal frequency for you). In my use, squeegee based self-cleaning mop pad cleaning trays will mean fur catches on the wipers and the nubs which happens with most friction based cleaning methods. I use a pet safe robot mop compatible detergent in the clean water tank at a ratio of 1:100. Bissell’s spinwave compatible multisurface cleaner is my favorite. I also use a silver ion module in the clean water tank to prevent gross stuff from building up in it. I use a deodorization and disinfectant module in my dirty water tank to help with the smell (it should be emptied as soon as the robot finishes cleaning and cleaning its mops). You’ll have to scrub down this dirty water tank every once in a while too. I run my combo robot twice a day which means I have to refill and empty my tanks once every two days or so. No smell or anything.

Someone called the store for me and told me the Dreame L40 Ultra is still at 438.99 USD with the free TriCut brush and an accessory kit!

Narwal and dreame are the most problem proof with obstacle avoidance. The Narwal Freo Z Ultra fits your needs and so does the Dreame L/X40 Ultra. For cheaper options with not as good obstacle avoidance, you could consider: Dreame L20/L30/L40 If you want it to mop, I recommend connecting the base station to the water line.

Narwal and dreame are the most problem proof with obstacle avoidance. The Narwal Freo Z Ultra fits your needs and so does the Dreame L/X40 Ultra. For cheaper options with not as good obstacle avoidance, you could consider: Dreame L20/L30/L40 If you want it to mop, I recommend connecting the base station to the water line.

In the US, the L40 Ultra is a good all around combo that had its price drop to 399 USD with the same performance as the Dreame X40 Ultra as well as its obstacle avoidance! I’d recommend running your robot twice a day. That’s what I do with my heavily shedding corgi.

Both the Narwal Freo Z Ultra and the Dreame L/X40 Ultra do well avoiding cables and pet messes. Only difference is that the Dreame has to backtrack a bit for the computer to process the distance and whatnot since it only has one RGB camera but the Narwal Freo Z Ultra doesn't need to do this as it has binocular RGB cameras.

Out of the ones you mentioned, the L40 Ultra will be easiest to maintain with the QRevo models coming in after for their removable mopping tray. For the L40 Ultra, it can remove the mops when vacuuming the carpets. Other robots will drag the mops. For all of the models you mentioned, you’d need to buy vacuum bags for the autoempty station. Don’t worry though, the first bag will fill up fast from shedding pets but will plateau and it’ll slow down over time. It’s cheap to get from Temu/aliexpress from resellers who sell the real bags or the official mainland Chinese stores on taobao’s Tmall. Floor cleaner: roborock says using unauthorized cleaning agents will void warranty. Actually, just filling it in with a robot mop friendly cleaner that is ph neutral, low-foaming and the same thickness as water if put in the detergent tank will work just fine. I like the Bissell spinwave compatible natural multisurface cleaner which is pet safe. I add it in at a ratio for 1:30 for deep cleaning and 1:200, like the ratio the robot manufacturers recommend, for daily cleaning. Just say you used the official one when if you need to talk to customer service.

If you’re in the US, I’d get the dreame L40 Ultra (399 USD) for the main floor and a roborock Q5 Max+ or the Q8 Max+ for the upper floor.

The dreame L/X40 are good all around combo models. The eufy models are better suited for mopping.

The X40 and L40 are essentially the same. I think the lower rating for the X40’s navigation is due to older firmware and the L40’s firmware is more polished. Just choose whichever model is cheaper. My TriCut brush works as advertised, no hair or fur tangles around it. The S8MaxV’s rollers are more prone to getting fur stuck on the sides and their navigation and obstacle avoidance isn’t as good as Dreame’s.

For spinning mops: Station Self cleaning: Dreame X50 Ultra > roborock Curv/Edge Saros 10R > Dreame L/X40 Ultra >≈ Ecovacs models with wipers in mop pad cleaning tray marketed as the 150 day cleaning free tray > roborock qrevo > all other dreame and ecovacs robots

What's your home like? Is it mostly hardfloors, carpet, or a mix of both? As for obstacle avoidance, the best options are the Dreame X/L40 Ultra and newer models, the Eufy S1 Pro, and the Narwal Freo Z Ultra. Roborock won't do as well for cables. If this isn't an issue, it'll be fine too. I don't recommend the roborock Z70, the Roborock Saros 10 and the QRevo Curv would be much better choices as accommodating the arm meant the cleaning performance had to be sacrificed. For corner cleaning, Dreame is the most aggressive in terms of its algorithm. Roborock is rather shy when it comes to cleaning corners with the extending side brush. I'm not sure about Eufy's E25/E28's extending side brush, but the square shape can make it harder for it to fit into corners if the algorithm isn't optimized. The Eufy S1 Pro and the Narwal Freo Z do not have as good corner cleaning capabilties.

I think the Dreame with the self cleaning washboard and self cleaning rotating mops would be the lowest maintenance as you mentioned having a lot of fine dust. I believe it’s the L40 Ultra that fulfills your requirement the best. It’s currently on sale for 1299.99 with a free TriCut brush which really does help with fur. You can buy cheap official consumables from AliExpress instead of Dreame’s official store. Just buy from an authorized retailer to get better customer service, though I hope you won’t need it. I believe you can also hook it up to your water supply and let it drain by itself. Just find it on AliExpress. Narwal doesn’t auto empty the dirt, it only has disposable dust bags instead of a normal dust box which I think will fill out very quickly with dirt and fur in your case. It’s better suited for just mopping. The only one that does have an auto empty is currently 1499 if I’m not mistaken and still isn’t out yet. Roborock’s double rubber brushes get tangled on the sides and the side scraper isn’t very effective. The all rubber brushes seem more suitable for carpets.

You don’t need a hair cutter to remove hair from the roller brush. The roborock q5 max+ or the Q8 max+ are popular vacuum only options. All rubber dual brushes help with fur pickup and are okay at resisting tangles but will have tangled fur and hair on the sides which are easily removable. For combo robots: It seems like you’re in the US so I’d recommend the Dreame L40 Ultra at 399 with the antitangle TriCut brush if purchased from Dreame’s physical store which ships for free nationwide https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/AgXP4k48pP

I have been using the Dreame L40 for 4 months now, its excellent. With two big dogs in the house is does a great job of vacuuming and mopping

Good. Dual spinning pads. Yes. Yes.

The Dreame L40 has been great and has been on sale below $500 a couple of times recently. Even has an onboard camera so you can spy on the house when you’re away.

I bought it a week ago, so I want to share my experience with anyone who is trying to find a new high-end, budget-friendly robot vacuum. Pros: Budget-friendly, the app works well on both android and iOS, mopping performance is much better than my old vacuum (xiaomi mop 2). Cons: 1. Right after unpacking it and trying the first time - it refused to drop and re-attach the mop pads, I've tried a few times but it didn't work, so I just disabled mops dropping. 2. When trying to wash the dock station using the app - it refused to pour any water, fixed with a syringe like described [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Dreame_Tech/comments/1h8qfpa/comment/m10o5g4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). 3. Vacuum performance is somehow worse than my old vacuum (with both tri-cut and standard brushes), it just randomly leaves debris on the floor so sometimes it seems like a room wasn't cleaned at all. Summary - won't return because it does the job (somewhat), but wouldn't recommend neither, too many issues during even the first week of usage.

I would look at the the dreame L40 or Mova P10 ultra if they are still on sale for 499. I would 100% stay away from Bobsweep and roomba. Bobsweep is overpriced garbage with no support and roomba is at least 3 years behind the curve (their new releases just now have lidar). The J7+ doesn’t even have lidar which is a crazy. Plus the is a good chance roomba isn’t a company in 3 years (CEO has said they could run out of cash this year since the Amazon deal fell through), And no mopping. For 500 on the mova p10 pro ultra you get so much more It’s hard to write it all out lol. Mopping, anti tangle brush, lidar, cameras for onstable detection and avoidance, extendable mop and side brush, lifting chassis, hot mop washing, intelegent dirt detections, wayyyyyy better app, and more. It will 100% be worth the extra money (for something like that) over the bobsweep and roomba. Basically you can spend $300 on something that will kinda work, or 500 or something that is way more set and forget.

So the p10 pro ultra and the dreame L40 are almost identical. Mova was a dreame sub brand (now its own brand) so when I say identical I mean really close lol. I believe the L40 does have the ability to leave the mop pads back at the station when vacuuming (or raise them for carpet/rugs) where the p10 pro ultra just raises them. The mova does have a 3 year warranty though which is a plus. As for the differences between the ultra and pro ultra: Extendable side brush An RGB camera for better obstacle detection A newer mop cleaning system (with rubber wipers to automatically clean the dock) The ability to lift the main and side brushes A newer version of CleanGenius: Offers the option to mop after vacuuming instead of all at once Floor stain detection is available Mop cleaning is done at 70 degrees Celsius instead of 60 Is a little taller (103.8 mm vs. 97 mm) Can climb over obstacles a little higher (22 mm vs. 20 mm) I found that in another thread but I believe it’s accurate. In short, I 100% think it’s worst the extra $100. Main reasons being the better self cleaning dock, lifting side and main brush (for wet spills) the RGB camera and the stain detection. All of those will lead to a much better experience overall. Are they 100% necessary? No, but they will add over $100 value (my opinion) that you will notice in day to day use.

Imho all Roborocks listed above are overpriced and their object avoidance struggles on carpet with small items. Narwhal seems to have good object avoidance, but they were on sale for a much cheaper price before and their support is not great. Dreame L40 cleans good and object avoidance seems to be good, but apparently also has terrible after sales support. I used a Eufy X10, but despite the camera, it still picked up children’s toys occasionally from the ground and its vacuum performance was bad. S1 has the best mopping performance among all above (could be useful with the dirt children bring in), but it should have similar object avoidance compared to X10 and will catch small objects occasionally. It is also not great with lots of hair. I would recommend to get Narwhal from Costco around $1200 if object avoidance is important or a Dreame if you are ok with a lengthy warranty experience if things go wrong. If you are keen on Roborock and ok with its object avoidance limitations on carpet, a Qrevo Master could work under 1k.

Considering your house is mostly hard floors, the s1 pro is a good choice however it struggles if you have carpet. If you have a mix of carpet and hard floors, I recommend the Dreame X40/L40 as it has significantly better carpet performance and edge cleaning due to the extending side brush. While the S1 pro has very impressive mopping, running a spinning mop style robot on a schedule will keep your floors as clean but one large benefit of the roller mops design in the S1 pro is that it is less likely to trap debris and scratch your floors.

I mean the L40 is an X40 that's been slightly stripped down to hit a lower price point. For some reason the X40 is right now $999 on Amazon while the L40 is like $1100 which makes no sense to me. But with those prices it makes more sense in my opinion to get the X40 Also, it seems like it makes more sense to get a certified Refurbished Dreame vacuums from their eBay store rather than purchasing a new one since certified Refurbished Dreame products get the 2 year all state/square trade warranty while the standard Dreame new product warranty is 1 year. Not sure what peoples experience with the certified refurbs are but it seems like the better deal considering it's cheaper and you don't have to deal with Dreame support for warranty replacements.

Yeah the Dreame Tricut brush fits right into the p10, it's the same hardware as the Dreame L40.

Dreame l10S or l20 if you are trying to save money Dreame x30 if you have a little more money to spend Dreame X40/L40 if you want the best. If you only have hardfloors, the Eufy S1 pro I also like the QRevo Slim if you want something from Roborock but I am disappointed with its Object avoidance capabilities when compared to Dreame and Eufy. Roborock in general is quite trash at obstacle avoidance and it makes it hard for me to trust their vacuums to run on a schedule without having to babysit them but their hardware is solid and reliable. Skip the Eufy x10 that so many shills like. It's got a lot of features that look good but in reality they aren't very well implemented. I had two of them and Eufy partially refunded me for both of them due to my experience with them. Good customer support, but a bad vacuum design that struggles to pick up anything on hardfloors. For the same money I would get a Dreame l10S or L20 instead. I posted my full review here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/AVD9Ph2eHK

Mova and Dreame are sister companies. The p10 pro ultra is just a rebadged L40. The docks are the exact same part number infact. If you are wondering how it will perform, look at the reviews for the L40. The only feature it's missing is leaving the mop pads at the dock.

They are identical. Both are going to have the same flaws. I would just get the L40. Dreame is known for not having the best quality control but like most electronics the failure rate follows a bathtub curve. Chances are it will fail within the first few hours of operation or it will work reliably for years before failing. Both of my X40 certified refurbs have been flawless and I've put over 300 operating hours between the two. I would get the L40 if you are getting it for less than the p10 pro ultra and run it every day to make sure if you have a dud, that you can return it within the Amazon return period. Dreame has the best obstacle avoidance in the market, you don't have to prep your house every time you run it. I run both of my x40s on a daily schedule and they rarely if ever get stuck.

Mova P10 pro ultra or Dreame X40/L40. Mova is Dreame's sister company and the P10 pro ultra is the Dreame L40 but being sold at a fraction of the price. All three are solid performers with the best object avoidance on the market along with equivalent cleaning performance to the top Roborocks.As of right now Dreame is far ahead of Roborock in object avoidance so generally with the flagship Dreame/Mova products you don't need to prep your house before you run the robot which makes it easier to trust the robot to run on a daily schedule with it getting stuck. If you can wait a few months, I would do that as Dreame and Roborock just announced a bunch of new models at CES. The new models look pretty impressive but reviewers haven't made full videos on them yet.

Dreame x40/L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. Dreame/Mova have the best object avoidance on the market currently along with having top notch cleaning performance. I run my X40s daily on a schedule and they never get stuck on cords or cat toys. The QRevo slim I also ordered to compare my X40 again would basically always eat a cord, sock or cat toy when running so I couldn't trust it to run on a schedule and returned it. Roborock in general has top notch cleaning performance but horrible object avoidance and I would not recommend roborock for that reason Eufy has pretty good object avoidance, especially in the S1 pro but the common issue with Eufy's products is that they underperform when it comes to vacuum performance. They fail to pick up debris on hard floors and carpets. And perform worse than Dreame/roborock.

Neither. 1) roborock has horrible obstacle avoidance, especially on carpet so they will eat cords, towels and socks so it's hard to run any of their vacuums on a schedule 2) the roborock s8 maxV ultra is a 2 year old design as this point and their sonic mopping system is outdated. It seems like they didn't want to cannibalize their QRevo line up and stacked on a silly side mop onto it. 3) the QRevo edge is good but if you are set on roborock, check out the QRevo slim as it has the best object avoidance out of all Roborocks but that isn't really a high bar to overcome as their robots have object avoidance that is comparable to a $400 robot. Personally since you have so much carpet, I would recommend the Dreame X40, L40 and the Mova P10 pro ultra (sub brand of Dreame). All have excellent hardfloor and carpet performance while also having class leading object avoidance. I currently have qrevo slim that I'm testing and a Dreame x40 ultra. The x40 just a far better cleaning system due to the object avoidance since I can run it daily.

The L40 and Mova p10 pro ultra are effectively identical. Same part numbers on the docks. Only difference being that the L40 can leave it's mop pads at the dock. The Dreame x50 is the best out of the ones you listed but it's probably out of your budget. The Roborock s8 pro ultra does not have a camera based obstacle avoidance system and is frankly old tech at this point, would not recommend it. The X40 ultra is possibly the best value out of the bunch it you can get it for $500-$700. Basically identical to the l40 and Mova P10 pro ultra but has longer battery life and slight difference obstacle avoidance sensors but still the l40 and X40 perform better than anything else for the money with regards to object avoidance. Since you have only hardfloors, I still think a roller mop style robot is probably best for you since spinning mop system tend to smear debris around while rollers like the Eufy s1 and E25/e28 always keep the mop clean. If you can get a Eufy e25 within your budget, I would get that, if not I would look at the Dreame l40 or Mova P10 pro ultra, which ever is cheaper.

Dreame X40/L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. The P10 usually goes on sale for $679 and it's like 90% the same as the x40 which goes on sale for around $800-900. The p10 has a slightly smaller battery and is missing the ability to leave the mop pads at the dock. The X40/L40 and P10 are probably the best overall robot vacuums on the market right now with the best object avoidance, equivalent carpet and hard floor performance to Roborock and equivalent app features. These robots also have extending side brushes which do a great job getting into corners and areas where the robot can't normally reach. The tricut brush which you can purchase and install does a excellent job preventing hair wrap but I have found it is significantly less effective on hard floors. The included roller brush does a good job on carpet and hard floors. The excellent obstacle avoidance enables you to schedule your robot to run daily without having to prep your house, it just avoids cords, socks and other common obstacles significantly better than Roborock's most expensive offerings. No one makes a perfect robot vacuum right now, all have some compromises, for example the x40 side brush currently cannot spin on carpet (they are fixing it in a software update) and it's Cliff sensors are very sensitive so Dreame vacuums have more trouble with dark/black carpets or mats. Roborock makes vacuums with excellent cleaning performance but atrocious obstacle avoidance so they rarely can finish a cleaning run unless you prep your house. Eufy brings a lot of features to the table for the money but seriously struggles with vacuum pickup performance. If you wait for the middle of this year, there will be alot of impressive offerings like the Dreame x50, and Roborock Saros series and maybe even Eufy will fix their issues with the x10 and bring out a new flagship killer that actually has good vacuum performance.

How much is the Mova p10 pro ultra in your area? Mova is Dreame's sister brand and the p10 pro ultra is identical to the Dreame L40 other than not being able to leave the mop pads at the dock. The L40 is as good as the X40 minus one obstacle avoidance sensor and slightly smaller battery but it performs equally as well but at a lower cost.

They are identical other than the Mova loses the ability to leave the mop pads at the dock. The spare parts and consumables are interchangeable between the two.

Get a Dreame or Mova for best obstacle avoidance. I've owned a Eufy x10, Dreame x40 and Roborock QRevo slim. Out of all of them I rate the Dreame x40 far ahead of the other two with the QRevo slim coming in 2nd and Eufy x10 last I currently have two x40s and their obstacle avoidance is nearly flawless. The robots rarely get stuck or eat cables which lets me run them both daily without having to prep my house or intervene. Roborock in general, really struggles with obstacle avoidance, especially on carpet. The QRevo slim I had for a few weeks before returning it would constantly eat cords and cat toys. Do not go with roborock if you value obstacle avoidance. For your case, I would recommend the Dreame L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. Mova is Dreame's sister company and the p10 pro ultra is identical to the Dreame L40 other than not being able to leave the mop pads at the base station. And both are very similar to the X40 other than having a slightly smaller battery and slightly different obstacle avoidance sensors while still being as good as obstacle avoidance. The advantage of the L40 and p10 pro ultra is that you are getting X40 level performance but usually around the $500-700 price point.

Dreame L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. The L40 should available on sale for around $400-500. The Mova P10 pro ultra is also around the same price and is identical to the L40 as it is made by Dreame's sister company. Get the L40 over the P10 pro ultra if they are the same price as the L40 gets software updates sooner. The L40 is one of the top performing robots for the money and has excellent hair tangle resistance since you can run the tricut brush. I have 2x Dreame x40s and they have the same brush system as the l40 and I have one running the tricut and one without it. Both have been excellent with resisting hair wrap with the tricut having zero hair tangled on it and the regular brush having a small amount on the ends. The best feature of the L40/X40/p10 pro ultra is that they have class leading object avoidance so you don't have to pick up your cat's toys or prep your house every time you want to run the robot meaning you can run it on a daily schedule which will keep your house cleaner. I run my X40s daily and they never get stuck on cables, cat toys and other random junk that ends up on the floor. If money is not a constraint and you have lots of carpet, try out the Saros 10r and Dreame X50. Both have some of the best carpet performance while also having good hair wrap resistance. The Saros 10r has slightly better cleaning performance than the x50 but the downside is that its obstacle avoidance is significantly worse than Dreame.

My first ever robo vac is L40 Ultra. I'm happy with it but the object detection is far from perfect and it can't detect water ponds. Which robot can understand there is water on the surface and stops vacuuming? Also why don't companies let users to scan their phone with the app / cam and their ai models the house items...? Like that is curtain edge not ribbon or cable etc.

Thanks for letting me know. I'm overall happy with my robot but still unsure how the water cleaning is working with that

What about x50? It can reduce its lidar hat down which is fuckng amazing. Also can x40 and the l10s Ultra gen 2 detect aster spills / ponds? I have the L40 Ultra and I'm quite happy with it tbh. (I have 2 cats and house is 1150 sq feet)

I use dreame L40 Ultra. It can mop your house the way your parquets are aligned. X50 would be over kill you don't even have carpets. I'm happy with mine. Check roborock too. They are solid too. X50 can lower it's turret I believe saros Roborock can do the same. X50 can detect water spills and stop vacuuming. L40 Ultra can't. Mova (sub brand of dreame) z50 Ultra can also suck water if you spilled. I think it's an amazing feature lol. Even avoiding a pond of water is enough for me. Because water kills the motor. But mova has a rolling mop not a circular one. Nice house BTW

I have cats. One doesn't really move much. I do Vac first mop later setup. Other cat often follows the robot. I just don't care. House is definitely clean and we haven't mopped last month and rarely use our vacuums. So it made a difference. All the cat hair is pulled away into the machine. Dreame L40 Ultra

I owned a Roborock s5 (very old), an ecovacs t30 (which I wild very soon) and now a dreame L40. I would Go with dreame or Roborock because of the software. The ecovacs was the only one that got stuck (3 times a week).

Agreed. L40 looks like a fantastic machine for the price. No bells n modern whistles. It just cleans well

Buy via Amazon. I’ve heard returns directly to Dreame can be difficult. FWIW, I looooved my L40 until the mop pads started failing to install and I was never able to resolve. Everything else about it was amazing.

Returning my L40 tomorrow because of recurring mop installation issues. Seems pretty common but there’s no fix. It’s frustrating.

Better navigation for sure! I had a Roborock before the l40 i have now. Dreame has a lot more random going spot its already been rather then just cleaning the room. Also seems a lot slower maybe because of the random side trips.

On ne peut pas régler le volume d’eau en mode Genius chez dreame n’est ce pas ? Avez-vous contacté le fabricant pour obtenir des améliorations du L40 ultra ?

Je ne comprends pas en quoi utiliser un peu plus d’ eau pose problème ? Pour ma part, le robot ne fait pas de trace.

I have an L40 ultra, two shaggy rugs and 20 m² of shaggy carpet and the results are perfect so the problem does not come from the robot

Genius, in automatic mode The pile is longer than that of your carpet And the result is perfect

I ordered a Dreame L40 for myself (arriving today). It’s a refurb from their EBay store for $450, as I didn’t read about getting one so cheap from their physical stores until afterwards. The refurb comes with a 2-year warranty through Allstate. I picked this model for good obstacle avoidance and edge cleaning at a fairly low price. I did need to order the tricut brush separately, as my house has 2 long-haired cats and 2 long-haired humans. This brush is designed to cut long hair so it doesn’t wrap around it (which is a problem for every vacuum I own—I’m very curious to see how well this works). I currently have a four year old Roborock S5Max. It still works great, but it lacks obstacle avoidance, and I’m not good at keeping the floor clear. I wanted to stay with Roborock, as I’ve had a good experience with them and replacement parts are easily found cheap on Ali Express, but getting all the features I wanted was going to be over budget. If you’re a Costco member, they have one of the Roborock Qrevo models for about $500. It has great reviews but lacks the more advanced obstacle avoidance that was a top priority for me.

Look at Dreame or Mova models that are compatible with (or come with) the tricut brush. I got a Dreame L40 Ultra a few weeks ago for $450 and bought a knockoff tricut brush on Amazon. My house has two long-haired humans and two long-haired cats. I just checked again, and there's still not a single hair wrapped around the brush.

Best Buy’s return policy is only 15 days now unless you’re a member of whatever thing they’re doing now. If you’re a Costco member, they have a Roborock Qrevo MaxV around $900 with obstacle avoidance. I bought a Dreame L40 Ultra recently myself. It was $450 refurbished and comes with a 2 year Allstate warranty. I read that several people had a better experience with Allstate than Dreame for warranty issues. I considered that Roborock from Costco, especially as I have an older Roborock that works great but doesn’t have fancy modern features. However, I personally didn’t want to spend $900.

There are two models with confusingly similar names, the L40 (cheaper) and X40 (more expensive). There's probably 80-90% feature overlap between them. I got the cheaper one, as it sounded like what I needed. It did manage to bump into a speaker stand hard enough to knock the speaker off, and it's gotten caught on a couple cords while mopping and lost a mop pad, but for the most part it's working well so far. Obstacle avoidance was a top criteria for me, as I'm not good at keeping the floor clear. That's why my old Roborock wasn't getting a lot of use. Maintenance is pretty minimal. So far, I've just had to refill and empty the two water tanks a couple of times. I did get the tri-cut brush. I've got two fluffy cats and two long-haired humans, and it's gotten no hair wrapped on it yet.

Just got the Dreame L40 Ultra with the TriCut brush because I heard it was amazing for long hair and can’t believe I didn’t get one sooner. It’s also $599 on Amazon right now

Dreame l40 I just got mine a week ago ish and it’s freaking amazing. $500 on eBay right now new.

Sale on eBay right now from official dreame seller. Just got mine a week and a half ago ish. So awesome.

This. Dreame L40 Ultra or Narwal Freo Z Ultra (specfically from Costco, USA) I went for Eufy S1 Pro based on my requirements (hardwood floors, no kids, no pets, condo living with closed windows). My floors are usually clean (no-one dragging dirt into the unit) and clutter free. I also have an ancient Roomba that does an adequate job. I wanted a good mop essentially (since I procrastinate mopping a lot). But Dreame L40 ultra was a close competitor. I would have bought it were it not for: \- Its mopping is secondary to Eufy S1 Pro. \- Its product support is atrocious. Mine is admittedly a narrow use-case and will stay so for the foreseeable future. But outside that, either Dreame L40 Ultra is a top dog for both vacuuming and mopping.

Only had it for 1 month but the Dreams L40 Ultra has been doing really well with my golden retriever hair. In the UK it came with the cutting brush and it’s had zero tangles

Great reply, and thank you! So, my full story is I purchased the Ecovac T50, I've been using it for a couple weeks. But I have some frustrations with it. I've had to re-map many times. I believe the leading reason is we recently put down hardwood floor in the living room, and the sliders on my couch in combination with 2 young feral children causes it to move around a bit, which seems to completely throw off the robots map. I've since replaced those sliders with non-slide pads, and haven't had to re-map yet, though it's only been 3 days so we'll see. The obstacle avoidance is leaving much to be desired, and with 2 kids and 3 cats it's struggle to keep everything up all the time. I've had to return it to it's base a few times even after I had thought I moved pretty much everything it would get caught on in some cases. The "Zero-Tangle" brush got hair wrapped around it in the first week, causing damage to the rubber pieces on the brush. I also really dislike the app, it's frustrating and the room setup and divisions and extremely annoying to get set up the way I want, and having to re-map so many times just adds to that frustration. This my first mopping robovac, so it's possible that this is normal for them, but I also smell a pretty awful smell while it's drying it's mops, it was worse when we first got it, though I'm not sure if it's getting better or I'm just getting used to the smell. All of those gripes aside, I do really like the look and cleaning of the T50. When it isn't aggravating, it does a great job at keeping the floors nice. I haven't seen the L40 as low as $399 and I am in the US, but I did end up ordering it on Amazon for $630 with the tri-cut brush included today. The Mova was around that same price but the sale ended today and it went back up to $899 which is stepping outside of the budget I'm looking to spend unfortunately. I'm going to see how I like the L40, but from what I've seen and read it looks to check all the boxes. I'll likely return the T50 if it works out. I really like that the L40 can detect liquid and turn the suction/brushes off for just mopping. Extremely helpful with the kids running around. I've also seen some reports of Ecovacs getting fried from liquid damage.

I bought the Ecovac T50 based off robot wars, specs, and other reviews. So much frustration. I got the Dreame L40 Ultra to compare it head to head, and I'm loving this robot. The L40 has performed extremely well in my home. I believe the T50 is going back this week.

Just picked up an Dreame L40 Ultra so our aging Roborock S4 Max can move to our basement. The perks being Valetudo support, swinging side brush, swinging mop arm, amongst the normal luxuries of auto water refill and auto empty. We still have cleaning people come for "deep cleans" beyond touching the floor but for two working parents with a puppy and two kids, this thing runs every days with weekly mops and is a MASSIVE improvement over our S4 Max. My wife is a neat freak, so she would clean after the S4 ran out of habit anyway and I've noticed her not doing it now with the L40. It also runs quieter, which is awesome so doing a run at night, plus a run after meals is easy. I am working on looping automations into my presence detection to get it to run every time we are far enough away from the house for it to do a complete cycle. Does it have more suction than our whole house vacuum? No. Is it better at mopping than our cleaning people? Also no. Is it better than my wife with our mini vacuum. Also no. But it running when we aren't around or aware makes up for all of that.

There really aren't any mop only robots besides the antiquated Braavas which you shouldnt waste your money on. Better to sell your current robot (or use in basement or give to a friend) and upgrade to a Roborock Q Revo master/Curv/edge, Eufy S1, or Dreame L40 ultra (which is cheaper than X40 but performs better)

I can understand that. I can take you from my experience with two kids three cats and a dog, my dreame l40 does good not choking itself on hair ties and bobby pins all day. But just being on the subreddit I've had a lot of experience just similar to the eufy outrage and it just seems odd to me. Regardless of how well they do, because I don't think they're on the top of any reviewers charts. Not bad but not on the top.

Also got the L40 2 weeks ago and have none of the issues you mentioned. Probably you got a lemon :(

I think the simplest solution is to have the option to turn off the smart features when over the carpet. It should just use the lidar to make sure it doesnt crash into anything and just mindlessly vacuum it. My budget sub $150 chinese robot vacuum handles it better than my Dreame.

Ticom L8000. Its good for the carpets but I use my Dreame L40 Ultra for everything else because the mopping is amazing.

We have a Dreame L40 and love it with our golden retriever. The tricut brush is perfect with long hair and I never have to cut it. Mopping is quite good for general maintenance but it does leave a safety zone around carpets of about an inch. I love the extending mop and side brush. My corners are also cleaned and doesn’t bump in to furniture while cleaning the legs or the edges.

Good breakdown — you’re actually pretty close already. Quick version: * The **L40 Ultra** has full mop lifting *and* mop parking (it can drop the mops off at the base station while doing vacuum-only work, so it's not dragging wet pads around on carpet). That’s basically the main feature the **MOVA P10 Pro Ultra** leaves out to hit the lower price point. * Suction power, water heating, and station functions are otherwise very similar between both. The P10 Pro Ultra is kind of Dreame’s "budget premium" — similar hardware, fewer bells and whistles. * For parts: most of the consumables (bags, rollers, brushes, filters) are interchangeable across the L10s Ultra, L40 Ultra, and MOVA P10 series. Always double-check your specific model when buying bags but you're mostly good. * In simple terms: L40 = better for mixed flooring + carpet. MOVA P10 = great deal if you’re mostly hard floors and don’t need full mop parking. Hope that helps — happy to answer if you’re still debating which one to go for!

I completely agree that the new robots are not perfect. They cannot replace a stick vacuum. My 7 year-old Dyson V8 still does a far better job in one quick pass than my Dreame L40 on criss-cross deep clean with tricut brush. My first Dreame L40 was a dud, but Dreame replaced it in one week after they saw my review on Amazon. Hopefully it keeps running! It does pick up about 85% of my corgi’s fur on medium pile carpet. The Mova P10 Pro Ultra I have seems about the same. The $900 Dreame L40 and $700 Mova P10 Pro Ultra are much better than my S7 MaxV Ultra, but still not a replacement for the old Dyson V8. And I think these “20,000+ pascal” suction numbers are just vaporware marketing. I don’t think these flagship bots (Dreame X50, Roborock Saros, etc) are worth $1200 - $1600. The step down models are the much better value.

If you’re in the US, call and order from the Dreame Century City store. They are selling the L40 brand new with a free anti hair tangle brush and detergent for $440 including tax. I have one and it’s been great. I think the x40 is $540 and does have slightly better obstacles avoidance.

If you are in the US, I ordered a couple L40 Ultras by calling the Century City store. They have been selling it for $399 plus tax with a free anti hair tangle brush and cleaning solution. 3 year warranty but it’s through Dreame and there are some concerns with their customer support. I thought the price was worth that risk. They arrived a week later and do a great job keeping our floors clean even with two shedding corgis.

Call the store directly. I was able to place an order with this price a couple days ago.

Price is not a top issue for me either. What worked for me this last round of purchasing was to pick the three most important metrics to me, then open the top 20 each in a new tab and compare only those three things, closing tabs and narrowing it down to the top three for me. I ended up with the Dreame L40 Ultra and the Roborock QREVO Edge. I planned on sending one back but decided to keep them both. I'm happy. Today, it would probably be different based on current testing stats. It's time consuming but it worked out for me and I feel fairly educated after tracking all that data and watching all those videos.

I have the Dreame L40 Ultra with the TriCut brush, and it’s been a game changer for cleaning downstairs. I can’t speak to its performance on carpet, but the TriCut brush does an incredible job picking up Bernese Mountain Dog hair With some of the highest-rated suction power available, I doubt it would struggle on carpet, but if you have a long haired dog, the TriCut brush is absolutely essential. It’s also on sale for like 599 which is insanely cheap. Pretty sure I paid like a grand 6 months ago

If you bought it new/refurbished you should absolutely return it. It was broken out of the box. Unfortunately it seems Dreame has this issue with their units. It’s either getting damaged in shipping or poor quality control. Either way, you got a dud unit. If you got it from amazon, return it and buy another. If you bought it from Dreame, reach out to them to start the RMA process. Dreame’s customer support has gotten much better over the past year. They are a little slow to respond sometimes, but they usually will remedy the issue without a fuss.

Could you share why the Mova P10 Pro Ultra has a lower mopping score than the Dreame L40? I was able to order both of them during last week’s sale but I’m struggling to decide on which one to keep. I thought they were essentially the same robot? Did the mopping tests change since the Dreame L40 was reviewed or is the Mova really a worse mopper? Thanks!

Owner of a L40 here, since Black Friday. None of the issues here. Got the tri cut brush with it that does make a difference. The whole thing works like a charm. Love it. Bought a 3D printed dust bin - with hepa filter - so no more throw away bags. It seems it can be hit and miss with what you get from Dreame, which is a bad thing!

The freaking Dreame L40. We just got one after a bad experience with a cheaper roborock. You won't get everything in your list but your floors will be VERY clean and it wont be clogged all the time.

I just got a Dreame L40 ultra, it does have a mopping feature, but you can use it for vacuum only and the mop pads disengage for that. I have mine on a custom clean, to vacuum first without pads, on the highest suction, with frequent auto emptying. It’s only my first week and time using a robot vac so I don’t have anything to compare it to.

It leaves them at the base station. You can also select for them to stay on, which it will then lift them up. I chose for it to disengage.

I have a dreame L40. I think it’ll do what you’re asking for. I absolutely love it and it’s much cheaper than the X40

The are both great top tier robots. Can't go wrong with either.

Vous pouvez régler l'eau sur la plupart des robots aspirateurs Dreame. Je ne les ai pas contactés, mais n'hésitez pas à le faire. Le Dreame L40 serait bien meilleur s'il utilisait un peu moins d'eau en mode basse puissance, au moins.

I second Dreame, I have the L40, you can disable mopping in the app.

Got the Dreame L40 ultra for $1000. I wanted to get the Qrevo Curv because of the anti tangle brush design but decided on the Dreame with the tricut brush for price reasons instead.

I also have an L40 Ultra and I haven't experienced issue 1 or 2. I would agree with #3 but I think that, for me, it's due to the Tricut brush which I bought with it. The Tricut brush is a double-edged sword in that it definitely does not get tangled with hair. I've been using the Tricut brush since November 2024 on 3 Dreametech vacuums (one L40 and two D10 Plus's) and not a single one of them has had a hair tangle yet. The downside is that it definitely doesn't pick up as well as the default brushes that came with the D10 Plus. I never tried the silicon brush that came with the L40 Ultra so I'm not sure how that compares.

I also have an L40 Ultra and I haven't experienced issue 1 or 2. I would agree with #3 but I think that, for me, it's due to the Tricut brush which I bought with it. The Tricut brush is a double-edged sword in that it definitely does not get tangled with hair. I've been using the Tricut brush since November 2024 on 3 Dreametech vacuums (one L40 and two D10 Plus's) and not a single one of them has had a hair tangle yet. The downside is that it definitely doesn't pick up as well as the default brushes that came with the D10 Plus. I never tried the silicon brush that came with the L40 Ultra so I'm not sure how that compares.

I have an L40 with a shedding girlfriend and a shedding pug (so both long and short hairs). The tricut brush does a brilliant job on both LVT and long-ish pile carpet. Obstacle avoidance is also brilliant. It's only become stuck once since I received it during Black Friday, and I blame that on the Christmas tree. As for the detergent question, I cannot say for certain as there's a lot of conflicting information out there. Dreame's support themselves have stated it's just used to clean the pads, and someone took the base station (of the very similar x40) apart to look at the tubes and couldn't find an obvious path between the detergent tank and the onboard water tank. That being said, when mine does a mop, there's a clear scent of a cleaning product in the air. That could be from mop pad cleaning though. Dreame's support have been known to get things wrong in the past (Costco warranty status, for example). I'd love an answer from the team at dreame that actually built it!

Yes I agreed with you. I heard many QA issues with the Chinese-made robots. I consider myself lucky as my Dreame L40 has worked flawlessly so far.

The best value by far is the Dreame L40 ultra for $500-600 right now. Just got mine for $500 and got a tricut brush and it’s perfect for a ragdoll and two British shorthairs

I got a Dreame L40 that only cleans the pads with detergent and then during mopping keeps them wet. I added Woldoclean detergent to my fresh water tank 0 problems and the apartment smells great and floors are clean:) Dont now how it works with the X50 and L50 now?

[L40 vs x40](https://youtu.be/zMUk6I1Ruv8?si=0GJscda07OjCIotE) [L40 vs Curve](https://youtu.be/VcetEIG9DNE?si=-Z8x9gP487RkLkmO) [L40 test](https://youtu.be/51YlbWSDGDs?si=QFzwB7NDV2S6-nty) [x40 vs s8](https://youtu.be/8mctdPywTjw?si=b1pn8Fk44IWIKo2s) Myself i got the L40 and love it works everytime 0 problems. It maps good and cleans good:)

L40 ultra works like a charm. I have only had it for a few weeks.

No issues at all with our L40 Ultra. Loving it.

Which Mova? I had Mova P10 Ultra that I bought for a good price but I returned it because there was a 538$ deal in Dreame store in Westfield and I got L40 Ultra with cleaning solution + Tricut brush and some Dreame life gifts. I’m really happy, i just paid 70$ more and got a better vac and some much gifts.

Pretty much everything improved. Go for the L40

I had a L10s Pro Heat and really liked it, but the price dropped a few weeks after purchase and I didn't find the edge mopping as advertised, so I sent it back to Amazon and got the L40 Ultra a few days ago. I don't think I would have sent the Heat back if the price hadn't dropped $150 two weeks after I bought it and the L40 hadn't dropped $200, but I am finding the L40 does a great job: it is quieter than the Heat, is vacuuming extremely well - like the Heat, and mopping incredibly well, and the extras over the Heat (dropping the mop pads, better object avoidance, swing out brush) are great. So, definitely happy with the swap and am not having any of the issues the OP is reporting. The only two things I am noticing that I do not like are 1) the mop/mop tray cleaning is loud (the rubber-on-plastic squeaking is noticeable, for sure) and 2) when on carpet, there's a rattling sound. I'm hopeful #2 is nothing serious. Otherwise, loving this bot so far.

Did the robot search for a week straight myself and realized the more expensive options have stuff i dont need. Almost went with the mova p10 pro ultra, but then saw the L40 ultra model was the same price last week. Chose this as my first robot. I found a similar deal to yours. So far, I love it. I feel like it's still breaking in and learning how to be a vacuum in ai mode. The app is fine. I'm on a galaxy S21. Not a new phone by any means. Just be specific and detail what kind of floor each room is. I only have a little bit of hard flooring, and some of my carpet is kind of shaggy so I love that I can tell it to leave the mop pads at the base (only robot in its price range that does this). My floors look overall cleaner. I do have one rug that still retains some dog hair, but I know every time it does a run, it looks better each time. Not to mention I haven't changed its suction setting as it's fairly quiet it's hardly noticeable when vacuuming a different room than you are.The first time and a couple of times since when returning to the dock, it attempts to dock like 5-10 times before it is satisfied. For that price and unless you need threshold capabilities, this, imo is the best bot. I don't expect it to deep clean every run, but the fact that it will vacuum more than I would this is a beautiful luxury. I'm lucky enough that this thing even goes under my couches! The funny thing is how they do their firmware because a robot might get a bad rep, but once an update fixes it, all previous reviews are made pointless. I'm curious how fast these current robots will be outdated because sooo many new features and robots come out every few months it seems. Whoops..too much? I'm still in the honeymoon phase.

So I bought a q revo and dreame l10s and compared them directly and ended up keeping the l10s because it seems to do a better job of mopping (and is willing to mop in skinnier areas of my hard floor around rugs). I don't mind the worse app with dreame, it's completely usable and reliable, just with weird translations. I genuinely like the roborock carpets first feature but I don't miss it with scheduling. If you can afford the l40 ultra, that's what I would buy for the best features (hot water mop washing, self cleaning washboard, water turbidity sensor, mop extend & lifting brush, hair cutting roller). How much more expensive are the premier q revo models in your area (the master, slim, edge, curv)? If theyre the same price (or you can afford the slight increase) I'd get those for the best of both worlds: premier features and the superior roborock app.

Are you using the cheapish looking red main roller brush? I had the same problem with my L40 Ultra on my low carpet. After switching to the crappy red roller brush, it picks up all the hair, just need to chuck it in the bin every 2 weeks due to wife's hair tangling it all up, replace with another new one for £2, good as new

YES. It is most definitely that bad. It’s bad on hard floors but god forbid you run it on a carpet. I have a video of it just plowing through fake dog poop on carpets. Edit: I have owned both the roomba j series and dreame l series, and both are so so much better.

I tested the roomba j series and the l series from dreame and both perfectly did the test

I tested the roomba j series and the l series from dreame and both perfectly did the test

Because both my Dreame L series and Roomba J series did the same test flawlessly

For crevices, you need a robot with a bristle main brush. Dreame L series and Mova usually use rubber brushes, which, according to reviewers on YT, don't pick up dust in crevices well unlike bristle ones. Some Roborock model like Q5 Pro, Q8 Max, Qrevo S, and QV35A/S also uses a similar brush. I think if you don't mind with prices, E28 or E25 is a good candidate because its roller mop is superior. Roborock also has a new lineup called S5A which is the cheaper version of Qrevo Edge. Now it's $899 on Amazon. S5A uses a similar Duo Divide split brush as in Qrevo Edge and Eufy E28, a self-empty station, and obstacle avoidance but only using structured light without a live camera.

The Dreame robot mop system is our favorite new roommate! We have a new and an older iRobot Roomba vacuums and recently got this one for the main floor. We're very happy with it. It's available in many different price ranges.