Dreame - L40 Ultra AE

There are much better robots you can buy at the same price or lower. There is the dreame x40 ultra for £1099 which will greatly outperform the deebot x5 pro. It has hot water mop cleaning, tangle free vacuuming with the TriCut brush, and good mopping. Dreame robots have the best edge cleaning out of all the brands. There is the dreame l40 ultra for £849, a much better deal as it is essentially the same as the Dreame x40 ultra except for battery life. Since you didn’t mention having a pet, I think the best value choice is the dreame L10s ultra Gen 2 (£549). Also tangle free vacuuming with the TriCut brush, strong all-around performance, but no hot water mop washing. Just take care of your cables and it’ll do well.

Any dreame model with a self cleaning mop tray? This would be the Dreame X/L30-40. It’s worked well at cleaning my corgi’s fur balls to the drainage area. The mop extend has worked well mopping his drool from the edges of the rooms where he likes to sleep. You can add any TriCut brush and the cover that prevents hair from going to the side to any Dreame model. It’s worked great at preventing tangles. Roborock Q Revo models are also worth looking at. Only the one with the DuoDivine brush is truly no tangle. The other brushes will have the hair and fur tangled on the sides. I recommend rotating mop models as they are better at cleaning off drool. These two brands are pretty good at obstacle avoidance and cleaning overall. There are roller mop models but Eufy’s ozone generator poses a long term risk in terms of reliability as someone reported ozone generators could degrade the rubber seals. Eureka J20 (Midea’s W20) doesn’t seem to be great at obstacle avoidance either.

Narwal Freo Z Ultra is the best robot mop but an ok vacuum. It does not have an internal water tank so this means it’ll have to frequently go back to the station to rewet its mops. This shouldn’t be a problem if your house isn’t very big. If it is, consider the other two models with an internal water tank. I’ve also heard mixed reviews about NarWal’s customer service. As for the app, I’m not so sure but I think it’s on par with the other brands (please correct me if I’m wrong). As the robot’s home is behind furniture, I’d recommend a model that has a self cleaning base station. Narwal doesn’t have this but I believe the next two models do. Dreame’s L/X40 has similar computer vision smarts and can extend and swing its extended mop under areas like the fridge where stains tend to accumulate with better vacuuming performance than the Freo Z. There’s currently no other model in the international market that can do this (NarWal’s 001 Max is still only available in mainland China). I’ve heard mixed reactions when it comes to its international customer service. The app is feature rich but means the UI will be more complicated. The QRevo Curv/Edge can also be considered but won’t have as amazing computer vision smarts as the previous two models. However, I heard the app has the best UI and that customer service can be mixed.

Yes and how well their “self cleaning” base station wash board can clean itself so the dirt is sent into the drainage area to be sucked up into the dirty water tank. When I used mine with a dreame L40 self cleaning tray, I found that hair and too much fur was clinging onto the wipers but did great with household dirt and dust. I was wondering if others had the same issue. This is also why I bought a dreame model with the AceClean system as the drainage holes look big enough to send my dog’s very fine fur into the dirty water tank.

The L40 at £700 is a total steal for online Costco especially with Costco’s generous return policy~ I’m so sorry I forgot that the curv and edge are still not released in the UK market :(

In the US, the Dreame L40 Ultra is 399 USD with an antitangle TriCut brush (very important for friends with heavily shedding pets) if ordered from the physical dreame store in-person and ordered via phone or email. This model is pretty popular along pet owners and great for homes with mostly hard floors.

Check here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Dreame_Tech/s/FG1GZlvzpQ

The Dreame L40 Ultra AE will be the best priced option that fulfills everything. For the cable, the obstacle avoidance will recognize it as a cable and avoid it instead of crossing it so cover it with something.

The only possible con I can think compared to the L40 Ultra is that the sensor array is the older one.

I think the Dreame L40 Ultra will do best in this regard if you value obstacle avoidance and corner/edge cleaning as well. There is also the much cheaper MOVA P10 Pro Ultra which is the exact same model as it is a sub brand of dreame without the mop removal function which isn’t necessary in your use case.

Bald dogs 😂 You asked this at just the right time when anti-tangling tech has essentially matured in robot vacuums. Dreame (DuoStream or TriCut brush), Narwal (conical brush), and roborock (DuoDivide) offer great antitangling solutions for their main and side brush. It’s become cheaper too as this feature has matured.

The dreame L40 Ultra will be the most cost effective combo model (438.99 USD with freebies from the physical dreame store that does nationwide shipping) and the best at obstacle avoidance (ecovacs does terribly with obstacle avoidance even with an RGB camera). The roborock has no RGB camera and its ReactiveTech obstacle avoidance isn’t as good compared to its RGB camera enabled one (which doesn’t do well on carpets. For thick wool rugs, a robot vacuum may struggle with this.

If in the US, the L40 Ultra is much cheaper at 399 USD (if ordering from the physical Dreame store) and the P50 Pro Ultra at 799 USD. The P50 Pro Ultra will have better base station self cleaning and better carpet cleaning. Here’s a comparative review of the two: https://youtu.be/LNJ6yK5c2Wc Both the dreame and MOVA will have better navigation and obstacle avoidance than the Ecovacs T50 Pro since the Ecovacs has no led fill light for avoiding things in the dark and the lidar’s field of vision is reduced from 360° for a lidar tower to about 120°. The MOVA P50 Pro Ultra will have the best base station self cleaning. Both the dreame and MOVA have a bigger onboard dustbin at 300ml over ecovacs’ 260ml which means less trips to the autoempty station, especially helpful for pet owners. The ecovacs is also unable to lift its side brush and main brush which means: if mopping up a wet spill it’ll smear liquid around and if just mopping in general the dirty brushes will eventually overlap with the mopping path and make mud in the brush compartment. A lot of other robots like the dreame and MOVA can lift the side brush and main brush which is recommended.

Dreame will have the best obstacle avoidance out of all of these three brands. Its subbrand MOVA sells the P10 Pro Ultra which is nearly identical to the L40 Ultra and discounts bring it to 499-599. The P50 Pro Ultra is like the L40 Ultra but with the X50’s better self cleaning mop tray.

I like how Jamie Andrews tests aspects that are advertised for quality of life (self cleaning the dock and using hot water) whereas vacuumwars simply rattles them off like a sales brief checklist. I can confirm Dreame does reach the advertised hot water temperature listed (I tested myself with an electric thermometer connected to the area on the washboard where the water would flow from the pipes) and it usually hovers at about 5-10°C below the advertised temperature before reaching it for a second or two. Don’t know about the new AceClean dock as I don’t have it but Dreame told me any misplacement of the temperature probes will result in measuring errors of more than 10°C.

Dreame's L40 Ultra will do a pretty good job for a combo robot at 399 USD. Won't be as good as a Dyson Visnav or a iRobot S9+ which are vacuum only models

Dreame/MOVA models with an RGB camera and Narwal camera enabled models are best at obstacle avoidance. As for hair: dreame/MOVA models with the TriCut brush will do just fine with human hair and pet fur. For longer hair, I’d look at the dreame L/X40 and newer (MOVA P10 Pro Ultra and newer) as the new side brush design is more tangle resistant compared to the previous one. If your pet sheds a lot, I’d recommend the Dreame x50 ultra as it can compress fur in its dustbin as it vacuums. Narwal’s Freo Z Ultra is a good choice for hair and fur too. It has great obstacle avoidance and will have the best smart cleaning program. There is also the LDS-only Freo Z10 which will be able to mop closer to edges and untangle any tangled hair on its side brushes These models all are combo models that mop much better than a swiffer. Upcoming models that will mop better than the previous models: MOVA Z50 Ultra and the Narwal Flow.

Best cost efficient choice: dreame L40 Ultra and the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra are 599 USD on Amazon for their Easter sale. Both models are essentially the same save for the L40 having the ability to remove its mops.

A lot of flagship priced robot vacuums vacuum better than the Narwal Freo Z Ultra but the Narwal Freo Z Ultra seems to be king with the smart clean feature. A robot vacuum with flagship level cleaning (and a formerly flagship price) would be the dreame L40 Ultra for 399 USD if purchased from a physical dreame store which will ship across the US for free if you order via phone or email. The MOVA P10 Pro Ultra should be similarly priced and is a good budget friendly favorite. If you want to support a local startup, try Matic robotics’ cute robot which I’d recommend if you want an all in one combo robot with a basic base station. It’s powered by the Nvidia Orin robotics chip so it theoretically is the smartest robot. Currently, it seems the robot is constantly being updated as soon as the software engineers there are aware of an issue. If you want good roller mopping right now and vacuuming carpets isn’t as much of a concern, I’d go for the eufy E25/28 (main difference other than a fabric cleaner is that the E28 has a refillable detergent tank) since it exerts 12N of mopping pressure and seems to mop rather well but vacuuming carpets is another story. The ecovacs X8/X9 only exerts 10N of pressure with the mop but the X9 will vacuum carpets better. More pressure is one of the factors that lead to better mopping.

In Italy, the P50 Pro Ultra costs 899 EUR. The Dreame L40 is at 899 as well. The MOVA is clearly a no-brainer in this case, with a much better AceClean dryboard and a sleeker base station (in my opinion).

If you want a combo robot, the Dreame L40 Ultra is sold at 399 with the antitangle brush which works great for long hair and mops well.

Under 500 it’s now the dreame L40 Ultra. Best for “infinite budget” depends on home environment.

I’d recommend robots with an autoempty station so most of the maintenance will be replacing the dustbag, tapping the dust out of the filter, and cleaning the robot once in a while. A lot of vacuum only robots with an autoempty base station will be fit in this budget! A popular choice is the Roborock Q5 Max+ or the Roborock Q8 Max+. Combo models will need more care ( you’d also have to refill the clean water tank, emptying the dirty water tank, cleaning the water tanks, and the mop pad cleaning tray). Some have completely removable mop pad cleaning trays which make it more physically accessible to clean. Some other ones don’t. For combo models, the recent sales and discounts have made the Dreame L40 Ultra (438.99*-599) or the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra (599) will be the best priced model given all the self cleaning features it has. I believe both models have a pet mode where it purposely tries to be quieter when it sees pets (dogs and cats alike). It’s cheapest to find the dreame L40 Ultra with the anti-tangle TriCut brush at the dreame physical store which accepts orders placed over phone or email. I recommend these models mainly because the mop pad cleaning tray has wipers that will redirect dirt to the drainage area, reducing the need to clean the area. Unfortunately, the mop pad cleaning tray isn’t completely removable (the base in contact with the water is not removable). Here’s a video on how the mop pad cleaning tray is cleaned. https://youtu.be/kSoxaozdtkU The roborock qrevo models have a completely removable mop tray which makes it easier to clean compared to the Dreame or roborock models. However, I haven’t found a roborock qrevo model at a price as low as the Dreame and MOVA models. The Qrevo QV 35A ($599.99) does have an anti-tangle side brush but no mop pad cleaning tray self cleaning and the lack of an RGB camera means the price isn’t as worth as the other models :( Here’s a video of how maintenance will look for the QRevo models: https://youtu.be/f0NzG5ANyEc Maintenance tips and tricks: For maintenance, please tap the dust out of the filter once every few cleaning tasks or whatever is most convenient for you guys. Mud will build up in the brush compartment of combo models if you set your robot to vacuum and mop at the same time, making cleaning the brush area more often. so I recommend asking it to vacuum first then mop so the need to clean the brush compartment will be less often. Combo robots require the base station’s mop pad cleaning tray to be cleaned once every two weeks or so (I suggest leaving it alone and finding the ideal frequency for you). In my use, squeegee based self-cleaning mop pad cleaning trays will mean fur catches on the wipers and the nubs which happens with most friction based cleaning methods. I use a pet safe robot mop compatible detergent in the clean water tank at a ratio of 1:100. Bissell’s spinwave compatible multisurface cleaner is my favorite. I also use a silver ion module in the clean water tank to prevent gross stuff from building up in it. I use a deodorization and disinfectant module in my dirty water tank to help with the smell (it should be emptied as soon as the robot finishes cleaning and cleaning its mops). You’ll have to scrub down this dirty water tank every once in a while too. I run my combo robot twice a day which means I have to refill and empty my tanks once every two days or so. No smell or anything.

Someone called the store for me and told me the Dreame L40 Ultra is still at 438.99 USD with the free TriCut brush and an accessory kit!

Narwal and dreame are the most problem proof with obstacle avoidance. The Narwal Freo Z Ultra fits your needs and so does the Dreame L/X40 Ultra. For cheaper options with not as good obstacle avoidance, you could consider: Dreame L20/L30/L40 If you want it to mop, I recommend connecting the base station to the water line.

In the US, the L40 Ultra is a good all around combo that had its price drop to 399 USD with the same performance as the Dreame X40 Ultra as well as its obstacle avoidance! I’d recommend running your robot twice a day. That’s what I do with my heavily shedding corgi.

Out of the ones you mentioned, the L40 Ultra will be easiest to maintain with the QRevo models coming in after for their removable mopping tray. For the L40 Ultra, it can remove the mops when vacuuming the carpets. Other robots will drag the mops. For all of the models you mentioned, you’d need to buy vacuum bags for the autoempty station. Don’t worry though, the first bag will fill up fast from shedding pets but will plateau and it’ll slow down over time. It’s cheap to get from Temu/aliexpress from resellers who sell the real bags or the official mainland Chinese stores on taobao’s Tmall. Floor cleaner: roborock says using unauthorized cleaning agents will void warranty. Actually, just filling it in with a robot mop friendly cleaner that is ph neutral, low-foaming and the same thickness as water if put in the detergent tank will work just fine. I like the Bissell spinwave compatible natural multisurface cleaner which is pet safe. I add it in at a ratio for 1:30 for deep cleaning and 1:200, like the ratio the robot manufacturers recommend, for daily cleaning. Just say you used the official one when if you need to talk to customer service.

If you’re in the US, I’d get the dreame L40 Ultra (399 USD) for the main floor and a roborock Q5 Max+ or the Q8 Max+ for the upper floor.

A much better CleanGenius please with the ability for it to remop/revacuum areas more if needed. Better carpet cleaning, imagine if a dreame robot could vacuum carpets just as well as the robot by another D-name brand (Dyson) and be able to mop (either with the new hydrosync track type roller mop or just spinning mops). Variable mop pressure and that could work with CleanGenius depending on the types of flooring and if it’s facing dried on stains or liquid messes. Better battery life especially when just cleaning at the normal settings. I hope the Aqua 10 Pro Track doesn’t have the same issue as the X50 Ultra especially since it has an onboard water heater. I love the cute eyes on the Aqua 10 Pro Track and especially the station’s design! Would be awesome if it could somewhat blend into my furniture like iRobot’s J9+’s base station which looks like a small bedside stand. Pets like to sleep everywhere, would be nice if the clean missed areas function was automated if it detects a pet is blocking the way/area (user should have the choice to choose if this is the case).

The dreame L/X40 are good all around combo models. The eufy models are better suited for mopping.

The X40 and L40 are essentially the same. I think the lower rating for the X40’s navigation is due to older firmware and the L40’s firmware is more polished. Just choose whichever model is cheaper. My TriCut brush works as advertised, no hair or fur tangles around it. The S8MaxV’s rollers are more prone to getting fur stuck on the sides and their navigation and obstacle avoidance isn’t as good as Dreame’s.

The best self cleaning models can also clean the base station’s mop washboard and the vacuum’s filter. I’d recommend these ones which can do this: Currently the best at self cleaning: the MOVA V50 Ultra can dry it’s dustbin and dustbag to prevent mildew unlike the other choices which brings it above the other robots Almost there: Dreame L/X50 Ultra, L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra In the middle: MOVA P50 Pro Ultra Pretty okay at self cleaning: MOVA P10 Pro Ultra, Dreame L/X40, roborock models with the motorized scrapers, Narwal models with an all in one base station.

You don’t need a hair cutter to remove hair from the roller brush. The roborock q5 max+ or the Q8 max+ are popular vacuum only options. All rubber dual brushes help with fur pickup and are okay at resisting tangles but will have tangled fur and hair on the sides which are easily removable. For combo robots: It seems like you’re in the US so I’d recommend the Dreame L40 Ultra at 399 with the antitangle TriCut brush if purchased from Dreame’s physical store which ships for free nationwide https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/AgXP4k48pP

The dreame L40 Ultra is going to be your best bang for buck robot. It’s also at 440 if you order from the dreame physical stores on the west coast which will deliver to those in the US mainland for free if you place an order via phone or email.

There’s like three stores in the west coast and the discounts keep changing and supposedly rotates around the stores: Here’s one: https://www.reddit.com/r/Dreame_Tech/s/AWDKD5QeD8 Ask about the L40 Ultra. Also heard that mentioning Jamie Andrews sent you will give you extra freebies! https://www.reddit.com/r/Dreame_Tech/s/acILI9ITWu

Thanks for sharing! I hypothesize that the X50 Ultra's poor battery life is likely due to the more power-hungry computer chip it utilizes. My own experience with the L40s Pro Ultra (mainland Chinese version) had a *worse battery life* that struggled to finish cleaning my home whereas my much cheaper combo Xiaomi robot (also mainland Chinese version) that has the same battery capacity and is also made by Dreame would be able to vacuum first and then mop my small apartment and finish with 50%. Other reviewers have reported that the L40s Pro Ultra (non-mainland Chinese edition) had a bad battery life, just like me :( Hopefully, this issue will be fixed soon. I hope the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track doesn't suffer the same battery life issue, especially because it'll need a more powerful chip to process all the information coming from the HD binocular RGB cameras and the dot projector, and a power-efficient water heater in the robot to heat the water up.

The Dreame L40 Ultra should also be priced similarly and will be much better at detangling hair and dealing with fur, thanks to the antitangle TriCut brush (which I find to work well with my long-haired corgi). Unfortunately, its only selling at dreame's physical stores in the US (shipping for free in the US mainland) at 440 with a free antitangle Tricut brush and amazon is much more expensive at 599

MOVA P10 Pro Ultra and the Dreame L40 Ultra should be in this price range (use a price tracker) and greatly outperform other models in the same price range. I think one of them shipped with the anti-tangle tricut brush, which worked well with my long-haired corgi's fur. I'd so change the mop pads to the roborock saros one (cheap on aliexpress) as it's plusher and can remove muddy prints better. Not so much a fan of how the dustbin can clog in the middle with fur, but have empty space on the sides, and how the self-cleaning mop washboard loves to have fur in every nook and cranny. The MOVA P10 Pro Ultra does also seem to have a front wheel breaking issue in North America, which is weird since this issue isn't reported nearly as much with the near identical Dreame L40 Ultra.

Thanks for sharing! The L40 Ultra will be the most cost effective de facto flagship at 400ish which blows other robots at the same price out of the water.

I’d save my money and go with a dreame L/X40 which retails from 440-680ish if you buy it from their physical store which does free mainland shipping in the us if you place an order via phone/email. You can change the mop pad holders to the flexipress ones which can tilt up to 5° and go up 2mm and down 1mm and use plush mop pads like the roborock Saros or Curv pads which are better for uneven surfaces like your textured tiled floors.

I just lost the draft of the comment I was writing on here TvT The brands best at obstacle avoidance are dreame eufy and Narwal. Recommendations come from cheapest to highest Narwal Freo Z ultra at €549 Best for smoothest obstacle avoidance, great at preventing hair and fur tangles, best smart cleaning mode, easy to clean, and great mopping Not so Great at: vacuuming (compared to other robots), water tanks need to be refilled frequently so it is better suited for smaller homes Why so cheap? It already has a successor and the new flagship the Narwal Flow is going to be released. No eufy models that are close to obstacle avoidance at this price range so no eufy recommendation. Dreame L40 Ultra AE €671 Good at: obstacle avoidance (firmware updates help) but not as smooth since it only has one eye instead of two like Narwal do it needs to go backwards to gauge the distance to something, more rounded vacuuming (better than the Narwal) and mopping performance. Not so good at: not many like the smart cleaning mode, not as easy to clean as you’d need to get down to maintain it. Slightly pared down L40 Ultra

The dreame L40 is a de facto flagship with much better obstacle avoidance mainly because of the better software and the fact it has an RGB camera. The edge and corner cleaning is also much better. The roborock S7 max ultra only has structured light so obstacle avoidance won’t be as good.

I don’t think the MOVA p10 pro ultra is in Europe and I haven’t seen any sales for the L40 ultra in Europe yet.

I found the L40 Ultra for 699 at Dreame’s Spanish website.

There’s no best robot! But the best bang for buck in the US is going to be the dreame L40 ultra at 440usd at physical dreame stores which deliver in the us mainland for free to 499 or 599 on amazon. It cleans much better than a roomba combo.

The problem with generative AI, even with the research function, is that the information is woefully outdated and often hallucinates things that don't exist. You want these features: >Good object avoidance (chairs, socks, cables, etc.) But the models the generative AI seems to have found for you will not do well in avoiding cables and socks. This is because they all only use structured light sensors, which are not well-suited for this. Only robots with an RGB camera, an LED fill light, and good obstacle avoidance software. If you tidy those up, then the MOVA P50 Ultra at 549 euros ( [https://de.mova.tech/products/mova-p50-ultra-robot-vacuum](https://de.mova.tech/products/mova-p50-ultra-robot-vacuum) ) is a good choice. Actual obstacle avoidance comes with a higher price tag in more expensive models like the Dreame L40 Ultra AE at 609 euros (German Dreame website). >**Goal**: **Maximum automation** – no daily involvement (vacuuming, mopping, cleaning the mop, drying, edge cleaning) Robot at this price range will need more attention than those with better self cleaning features, such as tapping the dust out of the filter out once every few cleaning runs (recommended to do once after every cleaning run when first using it) rinsing the dustbin and filter and wiping the robot clean once every two weeks or so, refilling and emptying the dirty water tanks, cleaning the mop washboard as needed. The Dreame L40 Ultra AE at 609 euros will have some sort of mop washboard self-cleaning, but it is rather annoying to clean with too many nooks and crannies for my liking, and the wipers like to drag hair around the washboard. If you tidy the cables and socks up, the MOVA P50 Ultra will have the best self-cleaning mop washboard since there are barely any nooks and crannies, and you can get the robot to clean its own washboard by pressing a button in the app. You'd still need to tap the dust out of the filter after every few cleaning runs, occasionally wipe the washboard down and the area under the filter, and rinse the palm-sized removable filter, which stops hair and large debris from entering. If you want the robot to clean its filter when auto-emptying, the Dreame L40s Pro Ultra is the cheapest model I've found that can do this. But it's at 769 ( [https://de.dreametech.com/products/dreame-l40s-pro-ultra-schwarz-saugroboter](https://de.dreametech.com/products/dreame-l40s-pro-ultra-schwarz-saugroboter) ) Maintenance tips: 1. Run the robot to vacuum first, then mop to mitigate difficult-to-clean mud buildup in the dustbin, filter, and brush compartment. It'll have less gross stuff in the brush compartment when you clean it. 2. The dirty water tank can stink, but the Dreame or Roborock dirty water deodorization module helps a lot in keeping the tank from smelling in between emptying. Do rinse and clean the dirty water tank with dish soap once every two weeks or so. Do rinse the deodorization modules and the dirty water tank when emptying the dirty water tank. Dreame one supposedly lasts longer, at 6 months, and the roborock lasts about 3 months. I also added a silver ion module to both clean and dirty water tanks to avoid any bacterial biofilm buildup. 3. If getting a model that can't clean its own filter, I put in cut-out pieces of air conditioner pre-filter sheets that fit just on the filter, which barely impede airflow for the vacuum. This will act as a robot prefilter and you won't need to tap the dust out of the filter as often and simply throw away the prefilter sheet and replace it with a new one.

Poop dodging? Sorry this feature won’t be on both models you’ve mentioned. It’s only in the 400-600 range that has actual ability to dodge poop. I’d check out the MOVA p10 pro ultra or the dreame l40 ultra which are currently the cheapest models with this capability and sometimes is sold with the antitangle TriCut brush which has worked well for my long haired corgi. I think there’s also the Narwal Freo Z ultra which was at a similar price range of 600 something.

Try the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra for 499 USD or the near equivalent Dreame L40 Ultra at the same price. Much better at cleaning than the ecovacs model while being cheaper. Only the Narwal models have a handle to carry its base station. However, every model with an all in one base station (with the exception of the Narwal flow), need to have the base station on the same floor as the robot.

Are you looking for only roborock? The roborock MaxV has no extending side brush for corner cleaning. Roborock’s side and edge cleaning algorithm is also rather conservative and won’t extend the side brush out to clean closer to edges if there’s like a toe kick or swing the extended mop(which dreame/MOVA does and Narwal does this too but with the mops only). > better mobility and avoiding obstacles Roborock’s obstacle avoidance lags behind other robots, even at this price range. TvT I’d check out the dreame l40 ultra or the MOVA p10 pro ultra if cheaper than the MaxV. Turns out it’s the p50 with the broken front wheel issue.

The dreame l40 ultra and the MOVA p10 pro ultra are popular combo robots at 500-600 usd (I haven’t found a combo that is in the same price range and delivers the same functions and performance as these two models). The main brush won’t get tangled if you use the TriCut brush which worked well in my home with long hair and a long haired corgi.

Agreed. I had a Roomba top model since 2014. I recently got a Dreame L40. I cannot belive how far iRobot fell behind. I always stuck with them becaue I always had good response and customer service, but wow. What these newer ones can do is amazing.

I just got the L40 Ultra AE last week. Less than $1000 on Amazon. I'm tickled shitless with this machine. I've had nothing but Roombas since at least 2014, and I never realized how far behind that irobot has fell. The L40 Ultra AE is easily half the db's of the Roombas. The vacuum dump is unbelievablely quiet. This thing cleans very well, but unfortunately I only have a Roomba to compare it to. I can't believe how far these devices have come.

Agreed. L40 looks like a fantastic machine for the price. No bells n modern whistles. It just cleans well

I've had it for a week now, I use it every day, and it hasn't gotten stuck yet. I previously tried an Ecovacs Omni T50, and it got stuck several times.

Heb gisteren de Dreame L40 Ultra AE binnen gekregen. Werkt perfect! Had wel wat issues met verbinden met de wifi, maar na een aantal pogingen toch gelukt. Die borstel voor de hoekjes mis ik niet echt. De robot gaat strak langs de kant op. Mocht ik toch ergens nog wat zien liggen pak ik onze normale steelstofzuiger. Ook las ik veel dingen over lawaai, maar valt allemaal reuze mee.

Ja app werkt goed, veel mogelijkheden! Eerste dag wel even de tijd nodig gehad om alles te ontdekken haha.

Wait for black friday or something similar. Ive bought the dreame l40 ae for example below 600 and happy with it. For a lot of vacuums you can buy the bags on ali express which makes maintenance cheap. If you have a hard to navigate house this is a very good europe option in my opinion. We dont have good deals for mova for example.

Huh? L40 pro ultra AE is 699 here without any discount. https://nl.dreametech.com/products/l40-ultra-ae-robotstofzuiger. Would be surprising if portugal is much more expensive

L40 is the best at obstacle avoidance I think The problem is how much do you value mopping because the eufy e28/25 seems to do the best there. And I think all flagships robots will likely switch to their roller style mops in the future because it's just more sanitary to clean the mop as you go. Narwal flow seems like it'll be better the eufy e28/25 when it releases but the price also seems too high That said, e28 seems to perform worse at object avoidance.

I recently got a Dreame L40 and really like it. It can leave the mop pads at the dock, which is a really useful feature if you have indoor cats. You can set it to vacuum first, then return to the dock to pick up the mop pads so it's not dragging them all over with bits of litter stuck to the pads.

Look for a vac that has an extension arm for the side brush and mop pad so it can reach into corners. I got a Dreame L40 Ultra and it has these features but I've only had it a couple of days.

Hey, I am as excited as you are to test a DJI robot, but that's all. Test it. I can't see any reason to wait, because it could (and likely will) have quirks that need to be worked out. And I like DJI. There are a lot of brands, but I agree with the Roborock sentiment for this reason: they are consistently putting out good machines, whereas most other companies are hit and miss for me, and some are just consistent misses. If your dad is getting these clean via Swiffer, almost anything is going to be better or atleast the same, EXCEPT for the "edges" of rooms. He may still Swiffer, but atleast it'll only be toekicks, corners, under the stove/fridge, etc. I don't have numbers on the Saros downward force... they may well be out there. But just think of it this way, that lifting chassis brings up the front of the robot to go over thresholds. The back is forced downward, where the mop is. What I can say is that I think you can't go wrong here and you're probably making yourself more nuts than you have to. Both were GREAT machines and honestly, I had a very hard time saying one was better. They're mildly different, that's all. Based on what you're saying, if you trust me, go with a 10R.

The J15 Ultra, with the razor cutters on the roller, is still the right vacuum. Buy it off the Eureka site, where its $550, if you can comfortably stretch. Don't get the Mova. The Dreame L40 Ultra is very good and would be a GREAT buy-remember reviewers bought it at 3x the price and like me, were reviewing it as a premium robot against other premium robots. For under $500? No brainer, its fantastic. Does that make sense? I think you have 2 great options. the L40 ultra or the J15 Ultra (through the Eureka website).

sure. If you are willing to spend $100 more, get the Dreame L40 Ultra. it's on clearance, so its $474, but this was a VERY popular model, and you're getting a premium, $1500 robot at 1/3 of the price. It's such a good deal it's hard to argue for anything else at that price point. Don't get another Eufy. This will be better.

Almost all robots have sensors so that they're not going to fall off your stairs, and the vast majority have multi-floor mapping. If you can score an l40 ultra for under $500 I would grab it as soon as you can.

The curve and edge are the same model. Personally, I happen to enjoy the look of the curve more because I'm sick of square towers. It's a personal preference. But, you don't really need to have that conversation. Because the l40 ultra is such a good deal. I would grab it.

I would get the l40 ultra, I would get it today while it's on Prime sale and I would get it from Amazon. Mostly because it's a very easy return situation if you need it, while you get all of the customer support from the original brand.

I'd get the L40 Ultra. too good a deal to pass up, even though I'm a roborock loyalist.

As a fellow spoonie, I get you. OK. so some reality checks. Those shredded pet toys and cardboard are an issue. You've got to get those off the floor or any 700 robot is going to get stuck on them. If they're big enough toy floof clouds, the robot will avoid them because it perceives them as poop, but they have to be pretty big for that. We can solve that some different ways. Similar issue in kitchen (i experience this as well). Stains from the splatters are hard for robots to get. You need that pressure that manual mops have. But we can work around that too. You could run the robot ON the mat, but getting the robot onto the map is gonna be tough. if you could find a spot to add a tiny ramp (a piece of foam or triangle of wood) that'd help. Folding it up would suck. the dust, floor types, etc.. none of those are an issue. So... at 700$, you've got a few options. The J15 Ultra, purchased on Eureka, for $550. its out of stock at Amazon, but its a very good buy. The Pro Ultra will be on sale tomorrow, with a coupon that'll bring it down to 750, if you can swing it. This would be a great buy, good mop, etc but its not going to solve the above problems, we have to get around those. It will get the center of your rooms clean, and does as good a job on the edges as you can hope for. There's the L40 Ultra, as you mentioned. A great premium robot, but its' gonna get caught on debris, and my gut, since I know precisely the debris you're talking about in the kitchen/dog, is that the debris is often bigger than a cheerio. Dropped receipts, hair ties, (looking around my floor rn for reference), rando bits. But its an undeniable good deal. I liked the Qrevo MaxV... the Pro is a lesser vacuum but not terrible (haven't tested it, just reading the featureset differences https://www.rtings.com/robot-vacuum/tools/compare/roborock-s8-maxv-ultra-vs-roborock-qrevo-pro/49691/60895) The Curv is a legit better robot than these, but $$$$. I would encourage you to consider the 3i P10. I've just started playing with it, but since i'd REALLY like it if you could swing the 3i S10 which is kind of the total problem solver, this is a good backup at 599$ (and someone gave me a promo code good for 10% off it you buy it today). OK. so again... short of the s10, you're going to need to mitigate some stuff. The fluff/cardboard. if bending over and cleaning is rough, get a standing rake and collection bin. to help grab all of that, and your kitchen debris that's too large. Hold onto the dustmop (it can use wet mops, I assume?) and use that when there's a stain the robot can't touch, or once in a while around the "edges" of the room. Let me know how this lands, and what you're gravitating towards. If you're cool w it, I'll throw some affiliate links your way for them.

My Dreame L40’s front caster has broken, Costco(UK) telling me just to return…Dreame taking an age to reply to support! If I take a refund, should I replace like for like or can anyone recommend better in a similar price range? Mopping being the highest priority, but a great all rounder would be good!!

Good luck! I returned mine! Having had a Dreame L40 Ultra previously I did not like the eufy app. The mopping was great but did not get true edge cleaning compared to the L40’s spinning pads! Base unit was pretty noisy and I wasn’t impressed that there was no ‘mop after vac’ or ‘mop only’ option.

Wait…then avoid 😆 I just bought this in the UK to replace a broken Dreame L40 Ultra, I was very disappointed.

i bought a L40 ultra yesterday with 649euro from Amazon. its still on sale.

I got the Dreame L40 ultra around December and super happy with it. Would buy again. The application looks a bit more flaky compressed to Roborock. I got the water kit later and would highly recommend it but budget exceeds what you mentioned. A friend’s dog visits sometimes and I had no issues with dog hair but would need to run it more frequently if you have dogs permanently. I do 3x mopping + 4x vacuuming per week. One is deep clean.

I got it during prime deals and love waking up to vacuum lines. I have nothing to compare it to except me do the vacuuming. I have 2 dogs and a snacky/crumb leaving family. For the first one I’ve had, it makes me happy. I haven’t used the mopping feature yet.

Dreame l40 ultra is ticking all my boxes. Amazing machine !

The L40 has quickly become top dog in the Dreame lineup. Don't get me wrong, I love my X50, but i would go for the L40 now.

I would also say the Dreame L40 ultra is a great 'bot, and you can get it on amazon if you're not west-coast based.

Can confirm. That's a really good deal.

I don’t agree on roller mops. They have small contact patches and bad edge cleaning. Also Ecovacs navigation has been poor consistently with maps getting corrupted over time. I’ve got a Dreame l40 ultra now and it has good edge cleaning, good mop pad cleaning and works more reliably than my two previous Ecovacs ever had. Downsides are that water tanks are too small so need to be filled too often in a larger house and the base gets very dirty and white plastic stains as it doesn’t manage to pull all the mop dirt into the dirty water tank. There were just too many bugs with Ecovacs kit and they abandon the new model within a month or two to focus on the next one. I’m sure Dreame are as bad but it doesn’t matter as much when the software actually works. My last Ecovacs was an x1 omni and added to the above problems is that the battery couldn’t clean the whole floor in one pass and recharge was so slow it would start again (only at 100%) in the evening which was mega annoying. Dreame also can’t do the whole floor but it charges much faster.

I really like our dreame L40 ultra. Only had it a few days, but we’re impressed.

I think if you want a reliable machine long term you're going to have to deal with flipping over the robot every week or so kind of no matter what. It takes like 1 - 5 minutes tho to do maintenance, just flip it over give it a quick dusting and make sure there's no obvious tangled or stuck debris. I just got an L40 Ultra and it's awesome, my only concern is how long it'll last. If it lasts at least a couple years, it'll easily have been my best investment ever. Also found a cool tip that you can use dental cleaning tablets before emptying the dirty water tank to sanitize it and help prevent bad odor build up.

The only issue I'm dealing with is my L40 Ultra always leaves debris along room thresholds. Overall, it does a good job though. I will be getting a second one when they get back down to $500 again.

for your area and what you’re looking to spend, I’d go with the Dreame L40 Ultra at $399.99. It’s got stronger suction than the others and a bigger auto-dump bin, so it’s less hassle overall. Honestly, it’s just the better deal for the price. https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1l3j8k7/dreame_storeontario_mills_limited_time_sale_huge/

Hey friend! If you’re looking for a solid vacuum, the Dreame L40 Ultra is a good choice. It’s got 11,000Pa suction so it handles hair like a champ, and it’s fully automated with a base that auto-empties the bin for you. It comes with mop pads too, but honestly, you can just leave those in the base and use it as a vacuum full-time if mopping’s not your thing. Also comes with a tri cut brush for free to help with hair. https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1l3j8k7/dreame_storeontario_mills_limited_time_sale_huge/

Remind me to come back to this thread and I can tell you more about my experience but I picked up a dreame L40 ultra and ive been very happy with it. It can extend a mop pad out on an arm to get under shit like that.

Its not on your list but I got a dreame l40 ultra and its been *amazing* at obstacle avoidance. The default brush thing was pretty had at German shepherd hair on carpet. The tri cut brush makes it amazing at dog hair on carpet. It was recently on sale, I got mine for 500. Im in love with it so far. I imagine it will go on sale again sooner or later. I think it was vacuum wars, but I saw a reviewer say at the time of writing it was one of the best at both of those things once you had the tri cut brush.

I just got a dreame l40 ultra a few weeks ago. I also have hard floor and carpet and our apartments are about the same size. I also have a German shepherd. I got mine on sale for 500. I know that might be pushing your budget upper end but if you can find one on sale, I recommend it.

I think i did okay then with my 499 l40 ultra

Ive been very happy with my dreame l40 ultra. Got it for 500 for father's day sale. Im sure it will get marked down again.

I wanted to update that I've gone ahead and purchased the l40 ultra however I'm noticing that it's vacuum and capability is not so good as compared to my old Q7 Max Plus. I have also ordered the QV35A which I will be comparing with and returning the one that I don't like. I do have a question though, I'm trying to figure out how to mop my second floor since my robot lives on my first floor. I have seen posts where people said to manually trigger the wash mop function and then take the robot to the second floor but that leaves a question if the water tank would also be refilled so that the robot is making sure to keep the mop wet? Do you happen to know? Would love to hear thoughts and Ideas

I really liked the e28 bot but the base station is really loud. Watch out for that if you are wanting to run it at night. I returned it and ended up with a dreame L40 Ultra. It's actually pretty good

I don't have a wealth of experiences with these robot vacus but it seemed to do a great job when I had it. The L40 Ultra was a few hundred dollars cheaper and for my house, seems to do as good of a job, just goes through water faster.

I also already have a carpet and fabric cleaner so that offered no value to me.

I tried the eufy e28 (way too loud) and the L40 and now I have the mova p50. L40 was ok. Didn't detect my rugs properly and was pretty good on object avoidance but the reason I returned it was because it was always leaving water on the bottom of the base station. Gross water that I'm sure would start smelling over time. The base station or the P50 drains and has always stayed clean. For pnject avoidance, in my experience, it's much better than the L40 and it detects ALL my rugs properly. From what I'm reading on vacuum wars, the ecovacs are good at cleaning but worse than the L40 at object avoidance. We aren't necessarily cleaning up the floors before the vacuum runs everyday and the cats sometimes knock something down like a string that dangles and I don't need my vacuum eating half of it and tearing the house down around it :) I'm so happy with the P50, I bought a second for our top floor I should also add that the L40 is newer than the X40 and I've heard that it's better in some respects. The P50 appears to be between the L40 and the X50.

I haven't had roborock but I have tried the dreame L40. The p50 seems far superior. Identifies more objects, seems smarter and the base station actually cleans itself nicely. The L40 would leave dirty smelly water in the tray

Sadly I have to agree on all cleanings ending in an error. The way I am able to increase my reliability with my S9+ is to divide the house up into smaller chunks and do one section at a time. It’s annoying, but with that I get the section done probably 80% of the time vs the 10% if I ask it to clean the whole house. I do think my S9+ vacuums carpet good, but less good on hardwoods. My Braava mop is a joke though. I upgraded to a Ecovac but it broke within a week and was out of stock so I switched to a Dreame L40 Ultra. Both completed their runs every attempt and took the total job time from 8+ hours (vac and mop) to under 3 hours. I have a Dyson Detect V15 with a light for showing dust and the floors looked way cleaner under that than with just the Roomba.

I bought the L40 Ultra this week and it's been pretty great. Object avoidance has been exceptional - recognizing shoes, fabric, plant pots - it even notices tiny wires running along the skirting board. Our current flat is 75% carpet, and I was initially disappointed with the carpet clean, but I installed the included Tri-Cut brush and it's now I'd say it's as good as our proper Meile vacuum. It's also pretty quiet in use. In my mind the only real let down is lack of Matter/Homekit support, but given the level of automation available in the app, I doubt I will really miss it. Other points: It initially got confused by a large mirrored double door in our bedroom, but when it couldn't pass through it removed the resultant phantom area from the map automatically. The ability to tell it to clean all the carpets first is an obvious, but great setting (especially given it can leave its mops behind.) The extending side brush doesn't work on carpet (apparently to protect the motor getting caught), but in practice I haven't found this to be an issue and if it extends the life span then I'm all for it. The app is initially a little fiddly, but if you take time to learn (it is very deep/configurable) it's great, bar the odd bit of weird Chinese translation. When initially mapping I had all the lights up full, and we have a shiny white painted step down into our bathroom. The lidar was confused by the reflection so didn't correctly detect the edge. I remapped with the lights at a normal level (it can turn on its own light as needed) and the mapping was perfect on the second run. Multi-floor cleaning could be a little less clunky. The auto water refill/empty kit that connects to your plumbing isn't yet available in the UK. There is a guy on Etsy who makes 3D printed bag replacement boxes (with HEPA filters), so this will do away with the need to buy the OEM bags - [https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1673042258/dust-container-for-dreame-station-l10s](https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1673042258/dust-container-for-dreame-station-l10s) Hopefully useful info. Thanks, T

L40 Ultra with current in store promotions will definitely make the decision a lot easier, since it can be had for $399 before tax, plus they throw in free gifts with purchase. It's a better overall model than the L10s with more suction, battery, better self washing and washboard cleaning as well. It's a steal for the price and if you were considering one over the other, I'd say overall L40 Ultra is a great value product in the market right now. Hope this helps narrow down the search a little for you, and if any questions, don't hesitate to reach out. happy hunting!

Hello, If you're looking for something that's great for pet hair, has great battery and sensors for carpets/rugs as well, I'd suggest going for either the L40 Ultra and the X40 Ultra models from Dreame. Both will come free with Cutting Brushes that are designed with fur/hair in mind, and they also have strong suction for cleaning carpets/rugs as well. They don't break the bank either, with current physical store promotions, hope this helps narrow down the search, and happy hunting!

I know I'm a little late on this one, but I also agree that the L40 Ultra when ordered through physical store will get you the best bang for your buck on this robot vacuum, and with the combined suction power, battery, and tricut brush, I think you'll be happy with the results. hope this helps narrow down your search a little, and if any further questions, feel free to reach out. happy hunting!

the mopping portion in my opinion is definitely worth it, considering most models that come with mopping also come with other convenience features beyond just mopping that justify a higher price. Even so, just because you can find good RVC's at a premium doesn't mean you have to pay a premium, the DREAMME X40 Ultra and L40 Ultra are great examples of RVC's that give you good quality of life features and can be had for a better price than the model you we're looking at.

Dreame l40 ultra or Mova p10 pro ultra are solid and can often be found on sale for around $500. They are basically the same with the main difference being that the l40 can drop its mop pads at its base station. Don’t know what your budget is but at that value it is incredibly hard to beat. Keep an eye out on Amazon they should at the very least be back on sale on prime day.

The l40 ultra is probably the best value right now when on sale at the $500 price point. And honestly If you concern yourself with every negative review you will never buy a robot vacuum. None are perfect and you’ll find varying opinions on even the ones people consider the best. And you nailed it with your comment that if people have issues, they are more likely to go online and complain about it than they are to praise it when their device works flawlessly.

Well said. I’ve tried a few of the pricier ones and just bought a Dreame l40 ultra as my “budget” option to compare. While I think the pricier ones are a bit better in performance (in some ways, not all) it just feels silly spending $800+ on a machine whose features will be dated in just a couple years. I mean just take the Dreame x40 ultra for example. Last year they sold new at $1900. Now you can get one for around $500. And You cannot beat the value of the l40 ultra or Mova p10 pro ultra. I think it’s the perfect robot for most peoples needs.

I tried both the T80 Omni and eufy e28. You can check my last post for a comparison. I also have been using the Dreame l40 ultra. I have a dog that sheds an insane amount and all of these vacuums have no problem picking up his fur. So mopping is really where you’re gonna see the most differences. Considering the points you made about the types of messes in your place, you may find a roller mop would be a bit more beneficial for you. It’s better at cleaning up stains and spills. Now if you generally have clean floors, I don’t think you’d see a noticeable difference between a roller and a spinning mop, especially if you run it nightly. That is how my house is and the dirty water in my T80 is just as dirty in my l40 ultra. You could also check out the mova z50 or v50. I think the z50 seems to be one of the best mopping performers rn but unfortunately not available in my country. However I do have a v50 coming this week as I want to give that one a try too. I hear really good things.

I’m really interested in this one. I actually have the v50 showing up Monday but I’m already thinking of keeping it boxed and sending it back because I have been using a Dreame l40 ultra that I’ve been pretty impressed with and while I’m sure the v50 is better, will I think it’s $500 better when it’s just me and my dog in a 1 bed apartment with mostly hard floors? Probably not. I also had the e28 myself and share some of your complaints so I sent it back. I know a lot of people are sold on the idea of roller mops over spinning mops but after being able to test both, I definitely agree that a good spinning mop is better than a subpar roller mop. And tbh, unless you have a lot of spills or overly stained/dirty floors, you’re really not going to see much of a difference in performance between a roller and spin mop. I’ve had the eufy e28, ecovacs t80 Omni and they both returned the same amount of dirty water as the l40 ultra did.

I tried both of these as well. I wrote a comparison in my most recent post and agree with your points. I ended up buying the Dreame l40 ultra as a “budget” option and I think I’m going to keep that one. Sure the T80 Omni does some things better but imo not $400 better. And at the rate the tech is moving, these things will be outdated in just a couple years. So I figured I’ll stick with one that does a good job instead of dropping 2x-3x on one that gives me marginal performance improvements. Then I can buy another mid range robot in a couple years when the tech is better and end up spending on 2 what I would have on 1 premium robot.

Both. My dog sheds an insane amount and it does a good job at picking it up, especially on hard floor. It’s not perfect on the couple rugs I have but enough where instead of vacuuming Manually daily, I only have to do it once every 1-2 weeks. I just bought the tri-cut brush for it too which supposedly helps with hair and pet fur. The mova p10 pro ultra is still [on sale for $499](https://www.amazon.com/MOVA-P10-Pro-Ultra-360%C2%B0Obstacle/dp/B0DGR1VDTB) too which is basically the same as the l40 ultra.

I don’t think there are any mop rollers out rn that are worth buying over some of the better spinning mops. IF you’re adamant on sticking to rollers, I would wait for some of the newer options to release if you can. But also, I think roller mops are seriously overhyped. Don’t get me wrong, they are better at some things like cleaning up spills or excessive stains. But if you run it nightly and don’t have overly dirty floors, you’re not gonna notice much difference vs a spinning mop machine. As for alternative recs that aren’t rollers, people seem to like the Mova v50 and Roborock Saros 10r. I’ve personally been using the Dreame l40 ultra and I’m happy with it after trying the ecovacs T80 Omni and eufy e28 and not liking them all that much.

FWIW I always thought it was gimmicky until I bought a good one. Now I wondered why I didn’t buy it a long time ago. Especially with modern features like self emptying dust bins and water. Are you in the US? Idk if this is in your budget range but you should check out the mova p10 pro ultra or dreame l40 ultra. They are probably the best value out there for under $500.

I’ve also been testing these 2 side by side. I also agree that the T80 Omni does a better job. However, I still don’t think it’s good enough for me to want to keep it. And I especially don’t trust ecovacs as a brand. While it works good now, it’s been said over and over that reliability is not ecovacs strong suit. I do believe roller mops are better performers but there are more options right on the horizon so I think it’s worth waiting if you don’t have an immediate need to buy one and are adamant on getting one with a roller mop. My next test is to determine if a great spinning mop is better than a subpar roller mop. So I bought the mova v50 and dreame x40 and will make a post on my experience after spending some time with it.

The x40 that I bought was refurbished and had wonky navigation so I sent it back, but bought a new l40 ultra and I really like it. The navigation is pretty good and object avoidance has been pretty solid too. Is it perfect? No. And the T80 is probably still a bit better at mopping. But it was good enough for me to realize that it wasn’t worth paying the extra money for the T80 or e28. So both of them got sent back and I kept the l40 ultra. As for the Mova v50, I have it sitting in its box still in my house as I decided I’m going to send it back for the fact that I don’t feel it’s worth me spending twice the price as the l40 ultra for what is likely marginal performance gains. Don’t get me wrong I am sure it is better, but I’ve come to the conclusion that the robot vac tech is just moving so quickly that spending money on a premium robot whose features will be dated in just a couple years wasn’t a good idea. So I’m happy with the performance of the l40 ultra and will be keeping that one.

L40 ultra works like a charm. I have only had it for a few weeks.

Been using the L40 for 2 weeks now and i don't seem to have any of those problems, though i have not done the station pad cleaning yet. My only big con is the lack of cleaning without a clear path back to the docking station. I can drop my old robot vacuum in any room i like just press start.

Dreame l40 ultra is worth it imo but it's a bit pricier.

One thing I found that is not obvious is you can change the frequency it returns to the base to empty the vacuum bin. I originally thought it would just empty itself when full, but by default, it only empties once at the end of the job. I have two dogs and the bin would get full far before the end of the cleaning. I thought the vacuum just wasn't very good on carpet, but it was because it was getting full and not emptying. Under the dock settings you can change it to empty more frequently.

Good. Dual spinning pads. Yes. Yes.

Yes, one of the best items we’ve ever purchased. We vacuum with it daily and mop with it 2-3x per week. We had the original Roborock QRevo for 3 years and just upgraded to a Dreame L40 Ultra.

Bought l40 ultra in Amazon.pl recently for 577 eur tax included. Its pretty good, as my first robot

Dreame L40. It has better obstacle avoidance, way better mopping, and newer tech. X8’s decent but a bit dated. With kids + sand? Go Dreame and don’t look back.

it's also really good!!

L40 Ultra is plenty for most homes and a killer value, but with 3,700 sq ft the L50 Ultra’s stronger suction, runtime, and smarter dock might be worth the extra.

I bought it a week ago, so I want to share my experience with anyone who is trying to find a new high-end, budget-friendly robot vacuum. Pros: Budget-friendly, the app works well on both android and iOS, mopping performance is much better than my old vacuum (xiaomi mop 2). Cons: 1. Right after unpacking it and trying the first time - it refused to drop and re-attach the mop pads, I've tried a few times but it didn't work, so I just disabled mops dropping. 2. When trying to wash the dock station using the app - it refused to pour any water, fixed with a syringe like described [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Dreame_Tech/comments/1h8qfpa/comment/m10o5g4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). 3. Vacuum performance is somehow worse than my old vacuum (with both tri-cut and standard brushes), it just randomly leaves debris on the floor so sometimes it seems like a room wasn't cleaned at all. Summary - won't return because it does the job (somewhat), but wouldn't recommend neither, too many issues during even the first week of usage.

Considering your house is mostly hard floors, the s1 pro is a good choice however it struggles if you have carpet. If you have a mix of carpet and hard floors, I recommend the Dreame X40/L40 as it has significantly better carpet performance and edge cleaning due to the extending side brush. While the S1 pro has very impressive mopping, running a spinning mop style robot on a schedule will keep your floors as clean but one large benefit of the roller mops design in the S1 pro is that it is less likely to trap debris and scratch your floors.

I mean the L40 is an X40 that's been slightly stripped down to hit a lower price point. For some reason the X40 is right now $999 on Amazon while the L40 is like $1100 which makes no sense to me. But with those prices it makes more sense in my opinion to get the X40 Also, it seems like it makes more sense to get a certified Refurbished Dreame vacuums from their eBay store rather than purchasing a new one since certified Refurbished Dreame products get the 2 year all state/square trade warranty while the standard Dreame new product warranty is 1 year. Not sure what peoples experience with the certified refurbs are but it seems like the better deal considering it's cheaper and you don't have to deal with Dreame support for warranty replacements.

Yeah the Dreame Tricut brush fits right into the p10, it's the same hardware as the Dreame L40.

Dreame l10S or l20 if you are trying to save money Dreame x30 if you have a little more money to spend Dreame X40/L40 if you want the best. If you only have hardfloors, the Eufy S1 pro I also like the QRevo Slim if you want something from Roborock but I am disappointed with its Object avoidance capabilities when compared to Dreame and Eufy. Roborock in general is quite trash at obstacle avoidance and it makes it hard for me to trust their vacuums to run on a schedule without having to babysit them but their hardware is solid and reliable. Skip the Eufy x10 that so many shills like. It's got a lot of features that look good but in reality they aren't very well implemented. I had two of them and Eufy partially refunded me for both of them due to my experience with them. Good customer support, but a bad vacuum design that struggles to pick up anything on hardfloors. For the same money I would get a Dreame l10S or L20 instead. I posted my full review here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/AVD9Ph2eHK

Mova and Dreame are sister companies. The p10 pro ultra is just a rebadged L40. The docks are the exact same part number infact. If you are wondering how it will perform, look at the reviews for the L40. The only feature it's missing is leaving the mop pads at the dock.

They are identical. Both are going to have the same flaws. I would just get the L40. Dreame is known for not having the best quality control but like most electronics the failure rate follows a bathtub curve. Chances are it will fail within the first few hours of operation or it will work reliably for years before failing. Both of my X40 certified refurbs have been flawless and I've put over 300 operating hours between the two. I would get the L40 if you are getting it for less than the p10 pro ultra and run it every day to make sure if you have a dud, that you can return it within the Amazon return period. Dreame has the best obstacle avoidance in the market, you don't have to prep your house every time you run it. I run both of my x40s on a daily schedule and they rarely if ever get stuck.

Mova P10 pro ultra or Dreame X40/L40. Mova is Dreame's sister company and the P10 pro ultra is the Dreame L40 but being sold at a fraction of the price. All three are solid performers with the best object avoidance on the market along with equivalent cleaning performance to the top Roborocks.As of right now Dreame is far ahead of Roborock in object avoidance so generally with the flagship Dreame/Mova products you don't need to prep your house before you run the robot which makes it easier to trust the robot to run on a daily schedule with it getting stuck. If you can wait a few months, I would do that as Dreame and Roborock just announced a bunch of new models at CES. The new models look pretty impressive but reviewers haven't made full videos on them yet.

Dreame x40/L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. Dreame/Mova have the best object avoidance on the market currently along with having top notch cleaning performance. I run my X40s daily on a schedule and they never get stuck on cords or cat toys. The QRevo slim I also ordered to compare my X40 again would basically always eat a cord, sock or cat toy when running so I couldn't trust it to run on a schedule and returned it. Roborock in general has top notch cleaning performance but horrible object avoidance and I would not recommend roborock for that reason Eufy has pretty good object avoidance, especially in the S1 pro but the common issue with Eufy's products is that they underperform when it comes to vacuum performance. They fail to pick up debris on hard floors and carpets. And perform worse than Dreame/roborock.

Neither. 1) roborock has horrible obstacle avoidance, especially on carpet so they will eat cords, towels and socks so it's hard to run any of their vacuums on a schedule 2) the roborock s8 maxV ultra is a 2 year old design as this point and their sonic mopping system is outdated. It seems like they didn't want to cannibalize their QRevo line up and stacked on a silly side mop onto it. 3) the QRevo edge is good but if you are set on roborock, check out the QRevo slim as it has the best object avoidance out of all Roborocks but that isn't really a high bar to overcome as their robots have object avoidance that is comparable to a $400 robot. Personally since you have so much carpet, I would recommend the Dreame X40, L40 and the Mova P10 pro ultra (sub brand of Dreame). All have excellent hardfloor and carpet performance while also having class leading object avoidance. I currently have qrevo slim that I'm testing and a Dreame x40 ultra. The x40 just a far better cleaning system due to the object avoidance since I can run it daily.

The L40 and Mova p10 pro ultra are effectively identical. Same part numbers on the docks. Only difference being that the L40 can leave it's mop pads at the dock. The Dreame x50 is the best out of the ones you listed but it's probably out of your budget. The Roborock s8 pro ultra does not have a camera based obstacle avoidance system and is frankly old tech at this point, would not recommend it. The X40 ultra is possibly the best value out of the bunch it you can get it for $500-$700. Basically identical to the l40 and Mova P10 pro ultra but has longer battery life and slight difference obstacle avoidance sensors but still the l40 and X40 perform better than anything else for the money with regards to object avoidance. Since you have only hardfloors, I still think a roller mop style robot is probably best for you since spinning mop system tend to smear debris around while rollers like the Eufy s1 and E25/e28 always keep the mop clean. If you can get a Eufy e25 within your budget, I would get that, if not I would look at the Dreame l40 or Mova P10 pro ultra, which ever is cheaper.

Dreame X40/L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. The P10 usually goes on sale for $679 and it's like 90% the same as the x40 which goes on sale for around $800-900. The p10 has a slightly smaller battery and is missing the ability to leave the mop pads at the dock. The X40/L40 and P10 are probably the best overall robot vacuums on the market right now with the best object avoidance, equivalent carpet and hard floor performance to Roborock and equivalent app features. These robots also have extending side brushes which do a great job getting into corners and areas where the robot can't normally reach. The tricut brush which you can purchase and install does a excellent job preventing hair wrap but I have found it is significantly less effective on hard floors. The included roller brush does a good job on carpet and hard floors. The excellent obstacle avoidance enables you to schedule your robot to run daily without having to prep your house, it just avoids cords, socks and other common obstacles significantly better than Roborock's most expensive offerings. No one makes a perfect robot vacuum right now, all have some compromises, for example the x40 side brush currently cannot spin on carpet (they are fixing it in a software update) and it's Cliff sensors are very sensitive so Dreame vacuums have more trouble with dark/black carpets or mats. Roborock makes vacuums with excellent cleaning performance but atrocious obstacle avoidance so they rarely can finish a cleaning run unless you prep your house. Eufy brings a lot of features to the table for the money but seriously struggles with vacuum pickup performance. If you wait for the middle of this year, there will be alot of impressive offerings like the Dreame x50, and Roborock Saros series and maybe even Eufy will fix their issues with the x10 and bring out a new flagship killer that actually has good vacuum performance.

How much is the Mova p10 pro ultra in your area? Mova is Dreame's sister brand and the p10 pro ultra is identical to the Dreame L40 other than not being able to leave the mop pads at the dock. The L40 is as good as the X40 minus one obstacle avoidance sensor and slightly smaller battery but it performs equally as well but at a lower cost.

Get a Dreame or Mova for best obstacle avoidance. I've owned a Eufy x10, Dreame x40 and Roborock QRevo slim. Out of all of them I rate the Dreame x40 far ahead of the other two with the QRevo slim coming in 2nd and Eufy x10 last I currently have two x40s and their obstacle avoidance is nearly flawless. The robots rarely get stuck or eat cables which lets me run them both daily without having to prep my house or intervene. Roborock in general, really struggles with obstacle avoidance, especially on carpet. The QRevo slim I had for a few weeks before returning it would constantly eat cords and cat toys. Do not go with roborock if you value obstacle avoidance. For your case, I would recommend the Dreame L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. Mova is Dreame's sister company and the p10 pro ultra is identical to the Dreame L40 other than not being able to leave the mop pads at the base station. And both are very similar to the X40 other than having a slightly smaller battery and slightly different obstacle avoidance sensors while still being as good as obstacle avoidance. The advantage of the L40 and p10 pro ultra is that you are getting X40 level performance but usually around the $500-700 price point.

Dreame L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. The L40 should available on sale for around $400-500. The Mova P10 pro ultra is also around the same price and is identical to the L40 as it is made by Dreame's sister company. Get the L40 over the P10 pro ultra if they are the same price as the L40 gets software updates sooner. The L40 is one of the top performing robots for the money and has excellent hair tangle resistance since you can run the tricut brush. I have 2x Dreame x40s and they have the same brush system as the l40 and I have one running the tricut and one without it. Both have been excellent with resisting hair wrap with the tricut having zero hair tangled on it and the regular brush having a small amount on the ends. The best feature of the L40/X40/p10 pro ultra is that they have class leading object avoidance so you don't have to pick up your cat's toys or prep your house every time you want to run the robot meaning you can run it on a daily schedule which will keep your house cleaner. I run my X40s daily and they never get stuck on cables, cat toys and other random junk that ends up on the floor. If money is not a constraint and you have lots of carpet, try out the Saros 10r and Dreame X50. Both have some of the best carpet performance while also having good hair wrap resistance. The Saros 10r has slightly better cleaning performance than the x50 but the downside is that its obstacle avoidance is significantly worse than Dreame.

My first ever robo vac is L40 Ultra. I'm happy with it but the object detection is far from perfect and it can't detect water ponds. Which robot can understand there is water on the surface and stops vacuuming? Also why don't companies let users to scan their phone with the app / cam and their ai models the house items...? Like that is curtain edge not ribbon or cable etc.

Thanks for letting me know. I'm overall happy with my robot but still unsure how the water cleaning is working with that

What about x50? It can reduce its lidar hat down which is fuckng amazing. Also can x40 and the l10s Ultra gen 2 detect aster spills / ponds? I have the L40 Ultra and I'm quite happy with it tbh. (I have 2 cats and house is 1150 sq feet)

I use dreame L40 Ultra. It can mop your house the way your parquets are aligned. X50 would be over kill you don't even have carpets. I'm happy with mine. Check roborock too. They are solid too. X50 can lower it's turret I believe saros Roborock can do the same. X50 can detect water spills and stop vacuuming. L40 Ultra can't. Mova (sub brand of dreame) z50 Ultra can also suck water if you spilled. I think it's an amazing feature lol. Even avoiding a pond of water is enough for me. Because water kills the motor. But mova has a rolling mop not a circular one. Nice house BTW

I have cats. One doesn't really move much. I do Vac first mop later setup. Other cat often follows the robot. I just don't care. House is definitely clean and we haven't mopped last month and rarely use our vacuums. So it made a difference. All the cat hair is pulled away into the machine. Dreame L40 Ultra

Roborock 8 maxv Ultra is very good. I use L40 Ultra from dreame. I'm happy but I have few issues. It can't detect glass and porcelain water bowls I put around for my cats. Runs into them. So you need to set no go zones. Cant detect water spills... That's dangerous. If it sucks water it's engine and mobo can die... Other than that I'm super happy. I use a real animal post patchwork carpet. And I was using carpet boost and intense carpet cleaning on. I noticed my leather post carpet has lots so many fur. It's that strong... Lol. I also have hepa filters in the house. Because it's cleaned everyday we don't have any dust in the house. Especially underneath the sofas. They clean better than humans. I paid 800 euroish for L40 Ultra. I bought supplies from aliexpress. It's 40 dollars for a year or twos supply with extra dust bags, hepa filters and rollers etc

I have the L40 Ultra pretty happy with it. Can both of the models detect spilled water and stop vacuuming in that area? Mine can't. Only feature I feel like it's missing

Mova Z50X Ultra is better than x40 because it can suck water from your tiles. 400 euros more for hiding the cap and some other little features I'm not sure.. You can buy a fridge for 400 eur or a portable AC.. I would say don't spend too much. It's just a robot. I'm super happy with my L40 Ultra actually.

I paid 800 euros like a month or two ago for L40 Ultra. It's very expensive here.. 474 usd is a steal. No brainer. That 1300 usd robot is not even 50 percent better mopping or vacuuming than L40 Ultra. That's not possible. Actually L40U is so strong it kinda fucked up my carpets. Lol. Only things that could be better = water spill detection to avoid that area, real hot water mop washing (all specs are BS no real station uses 60C or above as advertised)better navigation, mirror lidar false map creation, better object recognition. X50 has issues. And the only real difference is high threashold climbing + turret hiding. But product isn't stable yet.. If you don't need those two features don't waste your money. 1300 usd for a robo vac is stupid. You can buy a drier + washing machine for way less. As I said diminishing returns. However 250 usd robo vacs are super basic and way behing L40 Ultra and similar vacs. Roborock has good vacs too.

Yes it's very strong. Actually I was using it with carpet boost and intestine carpet cleaning for vac and it kinda damaged my very thin animal post carpets. So I turned it off. I have two hairy cats. You may buy the tri cut brush. I believe it cuts hair dongles. Can do mop and vac simultaneously or vac first mop later too. But I don't have 3 dogs so your experience may vary. Ask people in subs with dogs. I believe dual rollers are better. A friend got a roborock 8 Maxv ultra because has many pets. Big dog hair is a challenge for most bots so I heard. I never tried the tricut brush yet. BTW carpet suction of this robot is impressive.

I have the Dreame L40 Ultra and am very pleased with it. It does a good job of washing and drying the mop heads.

Not discounting your experience with them, since all companies have issues, but wanted to add my experience to the mix. I bought an X40 master last November, and an L40 ultra just recently and they've been fine. Though, I should note that I installed Valetudo on both of them before even connecting to the internet.

Reliable object avoidance needs a camera, everything else is a hit or miss. At a medium budget, the L40 ultra ($474 when discounted) and Mova P10 Pro ($450 when discounted) are the best bang for your buck for object avoidance, both with RGB cameras. I returned my L40 cause it didn’t have good carpet performance, but it never got stuck on kids toys or cables which was impressive at that price range.

It depends on your house’s set-up, none of the robots got it all. I have Eufy, Roborock, and Dreame: - Eufy S1 pro has been the most reliable mopping robot for my mostly hardwood floor. Excellent mopping performance, excellent object avoidance, and very reliable (does its job every night with zero issues). People underestimate the advantage of the ozone sterilizer in the station, never had a bad smell. Older model so goes on discount often, but superior to newer models is what I heard. - Roborock q5 max+ is a carpet beast, I use it for my upper floor that is mostly carpeted. Excellent suction at a low price point, never has hair wraps, very reliable. Non existent object avoidance (you will have to clean up before it cleans) and no mopping capability - Dreame L40, lots of tech at a lower price point when it’s on a <$500 deal. Excellent object avoidance and good coverage. Its carpet performance is subpar and its mopping performance is no match for the S1 pro. It’s too smart for its own good and navigation + efficiency suffer as a result. Dirty water tank smells like death all the time. This is my newest addition and I’ll be returning it possible for a L50 during the next black friday etc.. With all of those robots, if you maintain them they’ll last. None are set it and forget it for long periods. Bottom line in my opinion: Eufy for reliability and mopping performance, Roborock for reiability and carpet/suction performance, Dreame for object avoidance

Just got the l40 loving it so far coming from eufy x10 pro

Just last week I splashed out for the Dreame L40 Ultra and I am blown away. I moved from a Roomba that was a few years old and it's night and day. I have a mixture of carpet and hard floors, it knows to leave it's mop pads behind to hoover and go pick them up to mop. I have a child and cat so there's always stuff on the floor, it's object avoidance is flawless so far.

Spinning mop pads are great for maintaining a clean floor. The robovacs like the Dreame L40 Ultra that extend the arm out, get pretty close to the corners and all the way to my baseboards.

I second the Dreame L40 Ultra or its sister Mova P10 Ultra. Best bang for your buck. Im sure there will be nice discounts on these for Black Friday.

I went with the L40 Ultra over Mova P10 just due to the fact that it can drop off the mop pads at the base station to go vacuum. To me, the $1300 robovacs are not twice as capable as the mid tier ones to justify the price. And if you can wait until Black Friday, I'm sure some of these robovacs listed will be heavily discounted.

I’d recommend triangulating review sites, especially if you don’t have any HA specific needs.  The Dreame L40 Ultra has been good to me for the last few weeks. But I do think you’re going to get more anecdotal data points here 

On ne peut pas régler le volume d’eau en mode Genius chez dreame n’est ce pas ? Avez-vous contacté le fabricant pour obtenir des améliorations du L40 ultra ?

Je ne comprends pas en quoi utiliser un peu plus d’ eau pose problème ? Pour ma part, le robot ne fait pas de trace.

I have an L40 ultra, two shaggy rugs and 20 m² of shaggy carpet and the results are perfect so the problem does not come from the robot

Genius, in automatic mode The pile is longer than that of your carpet And the result is perfect

I own the very same kind of carpet and it works like a charm with my l40 ultra

I ordered a Dreame L40 for myself (arriving today). It’s a refurb from their EBay store for $450, as I didn’t read about getting one so cheap from their physical stores until afterwards. The refurb comes with a 2-year warranty through Allstate. I picked this model for good obstacle avoidance and edge cleaning at a fairly low price. I did need to order the tricut brush separately, as my house has 2 long-haired cats and 2 long-haired humans. This brush is designed to cut long hair so it doesn’t wrap around it (which is a problem for every vacuum I own—I’m very curious to see how well this works). I currently have a four year old Roborock S5Max. It still works great, but it lacks obstacle avoidance, and I’m not good at keeping the floor clear. I wanted to stay with Roborock, as I’ve had a good experience with them and replacement parts are easily found cheap on Ali Express, but getting all the features I wanted was going to be over budget. If you’re a Costco member, they have one of the Roborock Qrevo models for about $500. It has great reviews but lacks the more advanced obstacle avoidance that was a top priority for me.

Look at Dreame or Mova models that are compatible with (or come with) the tricut brush. I got a Dreame L40 Ultra a few weeks ago for $450 and bought a knockoff tricut brush on Amazon. My house has two long-haired humans and two long-haired cats. I just checked again, and there's still not a single hair wrapped around the brush.

Best Buy’s return policy is only 15 days now unless you’re a member of whatever thing they’re doing now. If you’re a Costco member, they have a Roborock Qrevo MaxV around $900 with obstacle avoidance. I bought a Dreame L40 Ultra recently myself. It was $450 refurbished and comes with a 2 year Allstate warranty. I read that several people had a better experience with Allstate than Dreame for warranty issues. I considered that Roborock from Costco, especially as I have an older Roborock that works great but doesn’t have fancy modern features. However, I personally didn’t want to spend $900.

There are two models with confusingly similar names, the L40 (cheaper) and X40 (more expensive). There's probably 80-90% feature overlap between them. I got the cheaper one, as it sounded like what I needed. It did manage to bump into a speaker stand hard enough to knock the speaker off, and it's gotten caught on a couple cords while mopping and lost a mop pad, but for the most part it's working well so far. Obstacle avoidance was a top criteria for me, as I'm not good at keeping the floor clear. That's why my old Roborock wasn't getting a lot of use. Maintenance is pretty minimal. So far, I've just had to refill and empty the two water tanks a couple of times. I did get the tri-cut brush. I've got two fluffy cats and two long-haired humans, and it's gotten no hair wrapped on it yet.

Just got the Dreame L40 Ultra with the TriCut brush because I heard it was amazing for long hair and can’t believe I didn’t get one sooner. It’s also $599 on Amazon right now

Tl;dr - upgraded from Roborock S50 (2019) to Dreame L40 Ultra, blown away by the tech improvements. I’ve been researching robot vacuum cleaners for a while now and even had a detailed spreadsheet of all the options. I have a Roborock S50 from 2019 that still does a half decent job vacuuming however its age is showing (we affectionately call it the grandpa). We have hardwood mainly, and we were looking for the next vacuum to mop as well. Budget wasn’t a concern, so I initially considered the Saros 10r and S8 MaxV Ultra, or even waiting for the next gen Roborock with the rumored roller mopping. The L40 Ultra didn’t convince at $1200, there were simply too many better options out there. However, at $474, it suddenly looked very different on my spreadsheet, and had features that none in its price class had. Took the plunge and got it delivered today, and my word, this thing is incredible. It vacuums better than the S50, extendible arms are grabbing dirt from everywhere, the leave-behind-mop for vacuuming trick is awesome, avoids most obstacles, auto empties to the docks (what! lol), so quiet even in turbo mode. Mopping is stunning, I mean I’m staring at our floor speechless. Granted the Roborock S50 is from a different era, but what the actual heck - clean/dirty water tank, washes mop with hot water, dries it, auto dispensers detergent, has a swinging mop, lifts the side brush during mopping (!), is dead silent when mopping only. My floor is cleaner than it’s ever been.. If this thing lasts a few years and delivers like this consistently, it’ll be a monumental quality of life improvement. I’ve not paid attention to the robot vacuum tech trends the past few years, but my word, this feels like a generational futuristic leap of technology. My one tip for others looking - figure out what you need and don’t get distracted by other features/gimmicks. For example I was so tempted by the level jumping function even though I had fully flat hardwood (lol), or spent countless hours agonizing over AI obstacle avoidance feature (I have no pets.. why care about fecal avoidance?!), or hot mopping function (it literally cools down in the robot, why bother?!).

Can echo the other posters. My S50 was loud, so I had very low expectations. In “Quiet” mode, the L40 is shockingly quiet.. to the point where I was worried it’s actually working!

Which Mova? I had Mova P10 Ultra that I bought for a good price but I returned it because there was a 538$ deal in Dreame store in Westfield and I got L40 Ultra with cleaning solution + Tricut brush and some Dreame life gifts. I’m really happy, i just paid 70$ more and got a better vac and some much gifts.

This. Dreame L40 Ultra or Narwal Freo Z Ultra (specfically from Costco, USA) I went for Eufy S1 Pro based on my requirements (hardwood floors, no kids, no pets, condo living with closed windows). My floors are usually clean (no-one dragging dirt into the unit) and clutter free. I also have an ancient Roomba that does an adequate job. I wanted a good mop essentially (since I procrastinate mopping a lot). But Dreame L40 ultra was a close competitor. I would have bought it were it not for: \- Its mopping is secondary to Eufy S1 Pro. \- Its product support is atrocious. Mine is admittedly a narrow use-case and will stay so for the foreseeable future. But outside that, either Dreame L40 Ultra is a top dog for both vacuuming and mopping.

We live out in the country, where it gets muddy a lot. Hardwood floors with rugs. Shoes in the house. 4 dogs and a cat with a dog door that let themselves in and out all day (including muddy days). Not mopping daily, but definitely daily vacuuming and always feeling behind. 2nd day with the L40 Ultra and I agree, it's amazing. We plan to run it overnight for everywhere not near the bedroom so we wake up to clean floors. Then, late morning it hits the bedroom, hallway, and bathroom (after we've gotten ready in the morning) so it's clean the rest of the day and we have a clean room for going to bed. If this is our life now, it's a level up event. (others probably find it gross how we have been living, lol)

I am also blown away. I have a 10-year-old Eufy vac that ran off the random pattern, and had *some sort* of proximity sensor in as much as it would slow down slightly before running headfirst into solid objects (like walls, furniture, sometimes my feet). In practice, 100% of the time, it would get stuck somewhere, on something. I could never keep the room so perfectly organized that it wouldn't find something to get hung up on, no matter how hard I tried. Plus, I had to manually empty the tiny bin, and constantly clean/fix the brushes. I quit trying to use it (despite multiple attempts in different rooms, different houses, even a workspace). I gave up on robovacs. A friend of mine has one and I noticed it when he moved, and he said they love it. That got me wondering if much had changed.... I found the L40 Ultra. My two top priorities were rock solid object avoidance and auto emptying trash. I figured mopping would be a gimmick, and if it could do those two requests well, I'd be happy. I am absolutely blown away. I paid $539 for it (apparently missed the Prime sale) but I couldn't be happier in the first two days. If this thing lasts like the reviews say, I'll be beyond thrilled. With 4 (large) rescue dogs and an indoor/outdoor cat, who all use a dog door to come as they please, in a rural setting with chickens and mud, and not being one who removes shoes (because I'm in and out all day) and no AC (so all windows / doors are usually open), keeping the house clean has been a neverending battle. We can vacuum in the morning, and by the evening it looks rough again. Enter "Snail," our new L40 Ultra. The LiDAR mapping is great, the cameras and lights help it to never hit anything. I have the pet setting on, and it sees knots in our hardwood floor and avoids them thinking they're feces! (Depending on lighting at the time.) The app is a little quirky and I laugh at all the typos and grammatical errors, but it works and has a ton of features. I'm obsessed with the little fella, and keep running it to see what another setting does. Just found the "grimy" map. Lol! And ew. We have large thresholds in some places. So far it has cleared them all at least once (one is over 1 inch) but for the unnecessary ones, I've thrown down the red threshold and blocked it. It zooms the "long way around" like it's on a mission! Battery life is impressive. The house feels so clean now. If it's going to be like this every day, I feel like I just won a lotto or something. Currently running "vac/mop" combo but will try vac-then-mop soon as I see a lot of folks recommend that. The vac bags will add up with all the pet hair, but just bulk ordered on Amazon. Plan to run every other day for whole house, then high touch areas daily to conserve a bit and stretch out the maintenance. The only issue I've had so far is the mop heads falling off (since they're magnetic). I know they can be left behind for vacuuming, but even when just mopping they may hit the same things. A few times was at one threshold, which I've now blocked. Hopefully that solves it. Using the regular brush so far with no issue, but tricut is in the mail. All in all, can't believe we waited this long to try again. Someone else in here said "a generational leap in technology" and that is so true. I'm blown away. And to think, in just a couple years, AI will be more than a gimmick in these too. I hope they add features through the app so we can benefit without upgrading hardware. One final anecdote, the unit tries to avoid the dogs at all cost when it's cleaning. When it's heading back to the base, though, and can't find a clear way through, it comes right up to the dog, gives it a little warning spin, and then gently rams the dog until it moves out of its way. I've caught it doing this on multiple occasions, and just watched it as I'm typing this. It cracks me up! Damn I hope this thing lasts.

Great reply, and thank you! So, my full story is I purchased the Ecovac T50, I've been using it for a couple weeks. But I have some frustrations with it. I've had to re-map many times. I believe the leading reason is we recently put down hardwood floor in the living room, and the sliders on my couch in combination with 2 young feral children causes it to move around a bit, which seems to completely throw off the robots map. I've since replaced those sliders with non-slide pads, and haven't had to re-map yet, though it's only been 3 days so we'll see. The obstacle avoidance is leaving much to be desired, and with 2 kids and 3 cats it's struggle to keep everything up all the time. I've had to return it to it's base a few times even after I had thought I moved pretty much everything it would get caught on in some cases. The "Zero-Tangle" brush got hair wrapped around it in the first week, causing damage to the rubber pieces on the brush. I also really dislike the app, it's frustrating and the room setup and divisions and extremely annoying to get set up the way I want, and having to re-map so many times just adds to that frustration. This my first mopping robovac, so it's possible that this is normal for them, but I also smell a pretty awful smell while it's drying it's mops, it was worse when we first got it, though I'm not sure if it's getting better or I'm just getting used to the smell. All of those gripes aside, I do really like the look and cleaning of the T50. When it isn't aggravating, it does a great job at keeping the floors nice. I haven't seen the L40 as low as $399 and I am in the US, but I did end up ordering it on Amazon for $630 with the tri-cut brush included today. The Mova was around that same price but the sale ended today and it went back up to $899 which is stepping outside of the budget I'm looking to spend unfortunately. I'm going to see how I like the L40, but from what I've seen and read it looks to check all the boxes. I'll likely return the T50 if it works out. I really like that the L40 can detect liquid and turn the suction/brushes off for just mopping. Extremely helpful with the kids running around. I've also seen some reports of Ecovacs getting fried from liquid damage.

I bought the Ecovac T50 based off robot wars, specs, and other reviews. So much frustration. I got the Dreame L40 Ultra to compare it head to head, and I'm loving this robot. The L40 has performed extremely well in my home. I believe the T50 is going back this week.

Pretty much everything improved. Go for the L40

Just picked up an Dreame L40 Ultra so our aging Roborock S4 Max can move to our basement. The perks being Valetudo support, swinging side brush, swinging mop arm, amongst the normal luxuries of auto water refill and auto empty. We still have cleaning people come for "deep cleans" beyond touching the floor but for two working parents with a puppy and two kids, this thing runs every days with weekly mops and is a MASSIVE improvement over our S4 Max. My wife is a neat freak, so she would clean after the S4 ran out of habit anyway and I've noticed her not doing it now with the L40. It also runs quieter, which is awesome so doing a run at night, plus a run after meals is easy. I am working on looping automations into my presence detection to get it to run every time we are far enough away from the house for it to do a complete cycle. Does it have more suction than our whole house vacuum? No. Is it better at mopping than our cleaning people? Also no. Is it better than my wife with our mini vacuum. Also no. But it running when we aren't around or aware makes up for all of that.

There really aren't any mop only robots besides the antiquated Braavas which you shouldnt waste your money on. Better to sell your current robot (or use in basement or give to a friend) and upgrade to a Roborock Q Revo master/Curv/edge, Eufy S1, or Dreame L40 ultra (which is cheaper than X40 but performs better)

my opinion on your question: There is the same difference between an L40 and an L50 as there is between an iPhone 15 and an iPhone 16. So it's up to you to see if it's worth paying twice as much for 2% more function! These are purely marketing developments! Buy the L40 ultra. I have been using it for 4 months. At this price and technology level, it's a very, very good deal.

Their physical stores also usually offer additional local discounts if you ask. Got a L40 Ultra for $450 few weeks ago.

I think the simplest solution is to have the option to turn off the smart features when over the carpet. It should just use the lidar to make sure it doesnt crash into anything and just mindlessly vacuum it. My budget sub $150 chinese robot vacuum handles it better than my Dreame.

Ticom L8000. Its good for the carpets but I use my Dreame L40 Ultra for everything else because the mopping is amazing.

Vacuum Wars recently explained this issue, it's because newer robots that have the circle mops have the feature where they lift the mop pads to do carpet and mopping in the same run, the problem with this, is that they pretty much have to lift the whole robot up, meaning the main brush has less contact brushing up stuff from the carpet. Some of the latest robots have overcome this, he has recently done the L40 Ultra and has said it does excellent on carpet. Although, maybe it does excellent on HIS carpet and not your specific carpet, maybe your carpet is taller. I have normal crappy low carpet so I'm fine.

That's great, I just bought the L40 Ultra as well, maybe not completely out of choice, because it's the only damned good Robot on a Black Friday deal on Amazon UK at the moment. Looking forward to trying it out and thanks for the tip on the dust bag

I had a L10s Pro Heat and really liked it, but the price dropped a few weeks after purchase and I didn't find the edge mopping as advertised, so I sent it back to Amazon and got the L40 Ultra a few days ago. I don't think I would have sent the Heat back if the price hadn't dropped $150 two weeks after I bought it and the L40 hadn't dropped $200, but I am finding the L40 does a great job: it is quieter than the Heat, is vacuuming extremely well - like the Heat, and mopping incredibly well, and the extras over the Heat (dropping the mop pads, better object avoidance, swing out brush) are great. So, definitely happy with the swap and am not having any of the issues the OP is reporting. The only two things I am noticing that I do not like are 1) the mop/mop tray cleaning is loud (the rubber-on-plastic squeaking is noticeable, for sure) and 2) when on carpet, there's a rattling sound. I'm hopeful #2 is nothing serious. Otherwise, loving this bot so far.

Second this. I have a l40 ultra too and a German Shepherd. The floors are primarily wood with rugs. The vaccuum is why my house does not look like a giant furball

Have an old Ecovacs Deebot Neo that vacuums and only mops by dragging a pad around. Does the job with vacuuming and the navigation is good. Wanted to upgrade to something that mopped better with either spinning or rolling mops, so we decided a Dreame L40 Ultra from Prime Day sales. It was recommended by so many people so we thought we'll try it. Biggest letdown! The thing can't travel in a straight line and never followed the walls around the perimeter and furniture. It was moving in an arching curving pattern. Heard several others with Dreame having the same or similar issues with navigation. Returned it and now waiting on delivery of an Ecovacs T50 Max Pro. I'll stick with my tried and true experiences with two previous Ecovacs I've owned.

Good breakdown — you’re actually pretty close already. Quick version: * The **L40 Ultra** has full mop lifting *and* mop parking (it can drop the mops off at the base station while doing vacuum-only work, so it's not dragging wet pads around on carpet). That’s basically the main feature the **MOVA P10 Pro Ultra** leaves out to hit the lower price point. * Suction power, water heating, and station functions are otherwise very similar between both. The P10 Pro Ultra is kind of Dreame’s "budget premium" — similar hardware, fewer bells and whistles. * For parts: most of the consumables (bags, rollers, brushes, filters) are interchangeable across the L10s Ultra, L40 Ultra, and MOVA P10 series. Always double-check your specific model when buying bags but you're mostly good. * In simple terms: L40 = better for mixed flooring + carpet. MOVA P10 = great deal if you’re mostly hard floors and don’t need full mop parking. Hope that helps — happy to answer if you’re still debating which one to go for!

**TL;DR:** * **L40 Ultra ($470):** Best bang-for-buck, handles hardwood + carpet fine, but may need a recharge for 3,700 sq ft. * **L50 Ultra ($1,099):** Stronger suction, smarter dock, climbs higher thresholds, longer runtime. 👉 If budget matters, grab the **L40 Ultra**. If you want *maximum convenience + futureproofing*, go **L50 Ultra**.

If you’re mostly on hardwood with just a couple of small door-way rugs, you don’t need the top-of-the-line X50 — any of Dreame’s mid-range models will handle that mix with ease. Here’s what I’d suggest: 1. **L40 Ultra** * **Why**: Great all-in-one suction + mop for hard floors, auto-empty dock, reliable 3D obstacle avoidance. * **Rugs**: It’ll detect and boost on those small mats (just mark them as “carpet” in the app so it doesn’t try to mop them). * **Price**: Falls in the sweet-spot for performance vs cost. 2. **L40S Ultra** * **Why**: Same core as the L40 Ultra but adds hot-water mop wash and onboard detergent module. * **Bonus**: If you want a deeper floor-wash every so often, this makes it effortless. 3. **X40 Ultra** (only if…) * You really care about the AI-camera obstacle avoidance (for cluttered homes, pet accidents, cables, etc.). * Otherwise you’ll be over-paying for a camera you won’t need on mostly open, hard-floor spaces. **What to do in the app**: * **Room setup**: Label your rugs as “carpet” so the bot knows to vacuum only. * **Cleaning sequence**: Create a two-step routine—first vacuum (Max), then mop—so you don’t mop over loose debris. That combo will give you spotless hardwood and tidy little rugs without the premium of the flagship models.

Yep you’ve already got one of the most balanced bots Dreame has made. The pop-out edge brush on the newer models does help on baseboards and chair legs, but it’s not game-changing unless edges are your #1 complaint. Suction numbers look wild on paper, but in real life the jump isn’t double the clean—it’s more about handling heavy rugs and deeper pile. Twin rollers are a bit nicer if you’ve got pets that shed a ton, otherwise your single rubber roller is fine. Hot water mop washing does leave pads fresher, but for day-to-day floors cold water isn’t holding you back. If you’re happy now, I’d ride the L10s a while longer. The “worth it” upgrades really only show up if you’ve got tricky rugs, a lot of pet hair, or you want every edge spotless.

Honestly, the L10s Ultra Gen 2 still holds up really well against the newer models — most of the upgrades are more about refinement than night-and-day differences. A few notes: * **Edge cleaning brush**: The pop-out brush on the L40/X40 does help in certain layouts, but it’s not magic. If your home has lots of obstacles and shorter wall runs, you’ll still see some misses. * **Suction**: The jump from \~11kPa to \~22kPa sounds massive, but in everyday cleaning the improvement is more modest — especially on hard floors where the L10s already does fine. It’s most noticeable on thicker carpets. * **Brushes**: Twin rollers are genuinely helpful for pets. They grab more hair and are less prone to tangles compared to the single roller, so that’s the biggest dog-owner benefit. * **Hot water washing**: Nice to have, but not a deal-breaker. It keeps mop pads fresher and helps with greasy messes, but cold wash + detergent tablets still does a solid job. If your L10s is already keeping up with your home, you’re not missing anything critical. The upgrade is worth it mostly if you want **less hair hassle** or if you have lots of carpet where stronger suction pays off. Otherwise, you’re in a good spot sticking with the L10s.

You're doing all the right homework here — and your English is excellent, no worries there. Between the L40 Ultra and the Qrevo Curv 5A1, you’re right that the L40 has stronger features on paper: auto mop pad removal, detergent tank, brush lifting, and usually great navigation. The Roborock Curv wins on suction and build reputation, but at a steep price. That said, if *returning isn't an option* in your situation, Roborock's proven track record and reliability might be the safer bet long-term. Dreame has made huge strides, but quality control can be hit-or-miss depending on the model and region — and if you get unlucky, you’d be stuck. If your floors are mostly hard and you value automation and features over suction power, the L40 Ultra might still be worth it. But if durability and support matter most, Roborock is probably the safer investment. Tough choice — just depends which risk feels more manageable.

If you can get the Dreame L40 Ultra on Amazon for $500 like I did last month, that’s a steal. Best robot you can get for 5-600.

Iv’e wondered the same thing. I ended up purchasing the dreame l40 ultra because it was $474 but if it was more than $500 I would’ve purchased the MOVA p10 pro ultra. I do love that it leaves the mop pads at the base since I have 2 carpeted bedrooms.

Did the robot search for a week straight myself and realized the more expensive options have stuff i dont need. Almost went with the mova p10 pro ultra, but then saw the L40 ultra model was the same price last week. Chose this as my first robot. I found a similar deal to yours. So far, I love it. I feel like it's still breaking in and learning how to be a vacuum in ai mode. The app is fine. I'm on a galaxy S21. Not a new phone by any means. Just be specific and detail what kind of floor each room is. I only have a little bit of hard flooring, and some of my carpet is kind of shaggy so I love that I can tell it to leave the mop pads at the base (only robot in its price range that does this). My floors look overall cleaner. I do have one rug that still retains some dog hair, but I know every time it does a run, it looks better each time. Not to mention I haven't changed its suction setting as it's fairly quiet it's hardly noticeable when vacuuming a different room than you are.The first time and a couple of times since when returning to the dock, it attempts to dock like 5-10 times before it is satisfied. For that price and unless you need threshold capabilities, this, imo is the best bot. I don't expect it to deep clean every run, but the fact that it will vacuum more than I would this is a beautiful luxury. I'm lucky enough that this thing even goes under my couches! The funny thing is how they do their firmware because a robot might get a bad rep, but once an update fixes it, all previous reviews are made pointless. I'm curious how fast these current robots will be outdated because sooo many new features and robots come out every few months it seems. Whoops..too much? I'm still in the honeymoon phase.

If you’re in the US, call and order from the Dreame Century City store. They are selling the L40 brand new with a free anti hair tangle brush and detergent for $440 including tax. I have one and it’s been great. I think the x40 is $540 and does have slightly better obstacles avoidance.

If you are in the US, I ordered a couple L40 Ultras by calling the Century City store. They have been selling it for $399 plus tax with a free anti hair tangle brush and cleaning solution. 3 year warranty but it’s through Dreame and there are some concerns with their customer support. I thought the price was worth that risk. They arrived a week later and do a great job keeping our floors clean even with two shedding corgis.

Call the store directly. I was able to place an order with this price a couple days ago.

İ have L40 ultra for a week. and works like a charm. Mopping mapping vacuuming. No go zones, planned cleaning. Mop pad wet settings. Ai avoiding settings. All works better then fine. No need to pay extra in my opinion. İ have no carpet in home. Didn't test on carpet. But i feel it will work fine on carpet too.

I picked up 2 @ 474. It's been a week of waking up to clean floors! 

Sourcing the PCB breakout board is the hard part. In the meantime, I've just created a rule on my router to not allow internet access for the L40 Ultra. 

You can do it right after the initial setup to pull the latest update. I've set myself a reminder in 90 days to do another firmware update. 

The cleaning and mopping - no impact experienced as of yet. What I cannot do is access the bot from outside of my home (which I don't care for). At some point if it becomes a need, a VPN into my home network can help with that. 

Price is not a top issue for me either. What worked for me this last round of purchasing was to pick the three most important metrics to me, then open the top 20 each in a new tab and compare only those three things, closing tabs and narrowing it down to the top three for me. I ended up with the Dreame L40 Ultra and the Roborock QREVO Edge. I planned on sending one back but decided to keep them both. I'm happy. Today, it would probably be different based on current testing stats. It's time consuming but it worked out for me and I feel fairly educated after tracking all that data and watching all those videos.

I have the Dreame L40 Ultra with the TriCut brush, and it’s been a game changer for cleaning downstairs. I can’t speak to its performance on carpet, but the TriCut brush does an incredible job picking up Bernese Mountain Dog hair With some of the highest-rated suction power available, I doubt it would struggle on carpet, but if you have a long haired dog, the TriCut brush is absolutely essential. It’s also on sale for like 599 which is insanely cheap. Pretty sure I paid like a grand 6 months ago

If you bought it new/refurbished you should absolutely return it. It was broken out of the box. Unfortunately it seems Dreame has this issue with their units. It’s either getting damaged in shipping or poor quality control. Either way, you got a dud unit. If you got it from amazon, return it and buy another. If you bought it from Dreame, reach out to them to start the RMA process. Dreame’s customer support has gotten much better over the past year. They are a little slow to respond sometimes, but they usually will remedy the issue without a fuss.

Just get the L40 Ultra*. Best one in that price range. Doesn’t get stuck, if anything the ai is too cautious. If you have multiple stories, get one for each floor. Easier than lugging a robot up and down.

I nabbed an L40 to give it a whirl because of the deal…do I need the separate tricut brush? (I figured if she does me dirty by not cleaning, I’ll return her and get the S8 MaxV you recommended, but I didn’t want to miss the closeout…)

If you can score a Dreame L40 for less than 500 (it was 474 during Prime Days), get it. It’s really been better than my expectations. 5 pets and four humans in our house.

Love my Dreame! Different model, but I’ve been very impressed.

I have the L40 Ultra

The Dreame L40 Ultra is on sale on Amazon for $599. I just got it (and I also have 3 cats). I have done one cycle so far and have been impressed.

So I bought a q revo and dreame l10s and compared them directly and ended up keeping the l10s because it seems to do a better job of mopping (and is willing to mop in skinnier areas of my hard floor around rugs). I don't mind the worse app with dreame, it's completely usable and reliable, just with weird translations. I genuinely like the roborock carpets first feature but I don't miss it with scheduling. If you can afford the l40 ultra, that's what I would buy for the best features (hot water mop washing, self cleaning washboard, water turbidity sensor, mop extend & lifting brush, hair cutting roller). How much more expensive are the premier q revo models in your area (the master, slim, edge, curv)? If theyre the same price (or you can afford the slight increase) I'd get those for the best of both worlds: premier features and the superior roborock app.

I just bought a dreame L40 ultra for around $500. So far I love it

I just got a Dreame L40 ultra, it does have a mopping feature, but you can use it for vacuum only and the mop pads disengage for that. I have mine on a custom clean, to vacuum first without pads, on the highest suction, with frequent auto emptying. It’s only my first week and time using a robot vac so I don’t have anything to compare it to.

It leaves them at the base station. You can also select for them to stay on, which it will then lift them up. I chose for it to disengage.

I just got mine yesterday and the actual vacuuming is fairly quiet. I had to turn down the voice notifications because they are loud and creepy sounding from the other room. I wouldn’t run it in the baby’s room, but it should be okay with the door closed.

Do you care about value or having the best robot? L40 is great at that price

Dual brushes are supposed to be better at picking up hair, in my testing I haven’t noticed much of a difference. Just a dad also says he doesn’t notice a difference either. The swing out brush arm will get your edges and corners better yes. Depends on which L40 you’re talking about. If you’re happy with what you got why bother ?

The amazon price on the L40 and where it comes from has been all over. When I went to buy it at the end of prime day, it wasn't coming from amazon, but dreame. Priced 474. Then the day after it went up to 1049 (yeah, no). Then I saw it had come back down to 599. I went to the dreame page and it was still 474 there and they offer military/first responder/etc discount. And there was no tax for me. Seems as long as you identify you don't want to keep it within 30 days and contact dreame for a return, you should be good. I purchased mine last night for $427 total direct from Dreame online.

Got the Dreame L40 ultra for $1000. I wanted to get the Qrevo Curv because of the anti tangle brush design but decided on the Dreame with the tricut brush for price reasons instead.

I also have an L40 Ultra and I haven't experienced issue 1 or 2. I would agree with #3 but I think that, for me, it's due to the Tricut brush which I bought with it. The Tricut brush is a double-edged sword in that it definitely does not get tangled with hair. I've been using the Tricut brush since November 2024 on 3 Dreametech vacuums (one L40 and two D10 Plus's) and not a single one of them has had a hair tangle yet. The downside is that it definitely doesn't pick up as well as the default brushes that came with the D10 Plus. I never tried the silicon brush that came with the L40 Ultra so I'm not sure how that compares.

I also have an L40 Ultra and I haven't experienced issue 1 or 2. I would agree with #3 but I think that, for me, it's due to the Tricut brush which I bought with it. The Tricut brush is a double-edged sword in that it definitely does not get tangled with hair. I've been using the Tricut brush since November 2024 on 3 Dreametech vacuums (one L40 and two D10 Plus's) and not a single one of them has had a hair tangle yet. The downside is that it definitely doesn't pick up as well as the default brushes that came with the D10 Plus. I never tried the silicon brush that came with the L40 Ultra so I'm not sure how that compares.

TL;DR: Dreame L40 Ultra handles vacuuming and mopping well, multi-floor setup takes some work, occasionally bumps or spins, needs weekly maintenance, noise is fine, battery manageable. Loving it so far! Hey! I’ve been on the lookout for a robot vacuum + mop cleaner for about a year. I overthink a lot, and like many of you, I went deep into research — this was a relatively big purchase for me (especially once you add shipping costs). At first, I thought I’d just grab a standard vacuuming robot for around $100. But after reading countless Reddit posts about people’s experiences with fancier robots, I kept expanding my budget. First I started looking at vac+mop combos, then added a base station to the wishlist, then mop lifting, then multi-floor mapping… and before I knew it, roller mops were on my radar. The roller mop hype was strong, but wow, the prices were too high. After a lot of thought — and thanks to input from fellow Redditors — I decided to drop “roller mop” from my must-have list. That’s when I finally chose the Dreame L40 Ultra during the Prime Day sales (I waited months for this)! I found a good deal for under $500 (excluding shipping) and picked up the tri-cut brush, an extra kit, and 1L of cleaning fluid as well. *Setup & Multi-Floor Mapping*: At last my robot arrived and I was so excited! Setup was easy, and it even came with a small bottle of cleaning fluid. Mapping was simple too. I set up my base station on the first floor. To map the second floor, I carried the base station upstairs, mapped that floor, then brought the base station back downstairs. Here’s where it gets tricky: to actually use the upstairs map, the app first requires the robot to be “in the upstairs map.” So I’d carry the robot upstairs… but then it wanted to return to the base station to wash the mop pads and do its prep cycle before starting. Which meant I’d have to bring it back downstairs to the dock, let it do its thing, then carry it upstairs again. Exhausting. My workaround: I switch the robot to the upstairs map while it’s still docked downstairs. It does the prep cycle at the dock, leaves the base, then I pause it, carry it upstairs, and resume. I also set mop washing to the maximum (50 minutes), which is enough for my upstairs floor — that way it doesn’t need to return to the dock mid-clean. This little hack makes multi-floor cleaning doable, but it definitely feels like a dance. *Brushes & Cleaning*: I noticed at first the flexible side brush wasn’t expanding outward. Later I realized it actually does extend every so often, just not constantly. There’s also an app setting where you can make it expand more frequently if you want. I started with the standard rubber brush for about a week, but it already showed a bit of damage — probably from when the robot ate a hair clip (oops). Hair also tangled around it. I switched to the tri-cut brush, which handles hair better, though it still collects some tangles. Mop lifting works well. My bathroom has a small slope (around 3 cm) and while the robot struggles a little, it does manage to climb it. *Navigation & Performance*: Sometimes (maybe once in 5 times I have observed this) it spins in circles, bumps into furniture, or makes slightly crooked cleaning lines. But honestly, it still gets the job done. I’m still observing its behavior — maybe it’s “learning” patterns with AI, maybe it’s just quirky. *Maintenance & Notifications*: I really like that it notifies me when the water tank is empty (usually after ~3 days) or when the dirty water needs emptying (also around 3 days). That said, it doesn’t notify when the cleaning fluid runs out. Because I live in a hot tropical climate, I also noticed the tanks can get a bit slimy and smell funky. My fix is to use water with a small amount of soap and give them a quick scrub with a sponge. On the plus side, the app has clear maintenance reminders (brushes, filters, etc.), which I find super useful. As for upkeep: you do need to clean it regularly if you want consistent performance. For me, a weekly cleaning routine works fine, since dust builds up quickly. *Noise & Battery*: Noise: Pretty reasonable — you can still hear the TV while it’s running. Not silent, but not disruptive. Battery: I’d prefer not to leave it plugged in all night. If I charge it to 100% at night and leave it off the dock, by morning it drops to around 20%. To prevent that, you either need to turn it off completely or leave it on the charger overnight — I go with the latter. *Daily Use & Observations*: So far, I’ve been using it almost every day. I do have to move some furniture or put things up on tables — for example, I have a lightweight fake flower stand that it manages to push over. I’ve also been keeping an eye on it while it cleans to see what I need to pick up first (like elastic hairbands, because it will happily swallow them). Overall, I’m very content and honestly impressed. It’s still new, so I’m sure I’ll notice more quirks over time, but for now? Amazing.

The best value by far is the Dreame L40 ultra for $500-600 right now. Just got mine for $500 and got a tricut brush and it’s perfect for a ragdoll and two British shorthairs

Are you using the cheapish looking red main roller brush? I had the same problem with my L40 Ultra on my low carpet. After switching to the crappy red roller brush, it picks up all the hair, just need to chuck it in the bin every 2 weeks due to wife's hair tangling it all up, replace with another new one for £2, good as new

I have the L20 with tri-cut brush. Cleans good and absolutely zero hair tangling after a month of use

The L40 is definitely inferior to the X40 (I’ve had both)

It’s the water output. L40 puts more water down.

The new Dreame X50 autowash dock has had great praise, with people saying it effectively cleans itself and you will never have to maintain it outside of emptying the tray that catches larger debris. The x50 also can clear the thresholds supposedly. There is also the master version or even the ultra with the pipe hookups, then the only real maintenance will be the dust bag and the cleaning solution bottle. Then a weekly maybe even a monthly maintenance on it will likely suffice. I have a robovac that was released 3 years ago, and has voice commands, alongside scheduling, remote operation through the app, over the internet live video feed and control, voice calling through the robovac itself. Plenty of tools and features to help OP in their situation, and that is a much older model at this point

Vslam is pretty outdated i hated how mine just ran into everything, scratching appliances. I upgraded to the dreame L40. the navigation is so much better, but i am returning it and switching to roborock

Hello Amandainpdx! I’m deciding between: 1) Dreame L40 And 2) 3i P10 Ultra I would go with your recommendation for the Dreame, but it’s not Prime shipping. And I have 2 dogs, and not sure what they will think of it. With the 3i P10 Ultra being Prime with free returns, so you think this makes better sense? Thanks in advance!

I totally agree. I'm not doubting his integrity but there is something amiss. I own the L40, and the L20 Ultra and both are really not good on carpet, albeit the L40 is a little better.

Pleased you are amused. What is the point in telling people bull shit. I've had an L20, L40, X40. The only one with no issues was the L20 and is still going strong. The L40 and X40 were replaced twice. I've had problems with Samsung . . I'm currently running a roborock, useless with obstacle avoidance, excellent on carpet, and a Eufy E28, very good but a very basic app. It isn't just about Dreame it's about giving no bull shit honest opinions

Yea call Michael, +16267459880 at the dreame store. They have amazing deals just bought ours yesterday. Personally I went with the L40 cause it's 430 but still can't go wrong with either

I think they can add the feature via a software update. Bot is literally identical to the dreame l40

My QRevo master is so stupid with object avoidance. My Dreame L40 navigates like a tweaker looking for copper though.. no logic to it

I have the Dreame L40, and while it's a bit of a PIA to set up, (too many options, tbh), it does an amazing job on my carpets. Mopping ain't bad either.

I got Dreame L40 for 800€ on black Friday and it is absolutely worth the money. It is not perfect, and it cannot reach every hole and corner, we have a lot of rooms and doors. But the job it does is quite good. Our floors are not very dirty, we leave shoes downstairs and we mostly have hard floor. But the dust is gone and the floors look clean.

My L40 worked great for 2 months, now the dock doesn't dispense water when cleaning mops or washpad, so there's no longer any mop cleaning. Customer service has been near impossible to talk to

I got the dreame l40 with coupon code it came to 439! So excited

If you look on sales here theres a dreame salesman from the store in LA I think they have a pretty good deal for another month (just bought l40 with free tri cut brush for 448)

In the spirit of this post, based your prime day recs post - if there’s a dreame model I’m looking at that is on sale (L40, 60% off right now) today, I should buy it now vs waiting right? Or was your pricing caveat only applicable to the models you listed? Edit: this wasn’t one you recommended I know but I figure as you say it will probably end up doing the trick and 60% off is pretty nice

I got the DREAME L40 over this because it’s apparently its a bit better and was $100 cheaper. 2 weeks, it’s been a life changer. Home feels way cleaner now. Weekends consist of just cleaning spots it missed. Do deep clean every 3-4 weeks now.

Dreame L40 two weeks here. Amazing for $500.

DREAME L40 been good for me at $500 on Amazon.

I have been using the Dreame L40 for 4 months now, its excellent. With two big dogs in the house is does a great job of vacuuming and mopping

The Dreame L40 has been great and has been on sale below $500 a couple of times recently. Even has an onboard camera so you can spy on the house when you’re away.

I would look at the the dreame L40 or Mova P10 ultra if they are still on sale for 499. I would 100% stay away from Bobsweep and roomba. Bobsweep is overpriced garbage with no support and roomba is at least 3 years behind the curve (their new releases just now have lidar). The J7+ doesn’t even have lidar which is a crazy. Plus the is a good chance roomba isn’t a company in 3 years (CEO has said they could run out of cash this year since the Amazon deal fell through), And no mopping. For 500 on the mova p10 pro ultra you get so much more It’s hard to write it all out lol. Mopping, anti tangle brush, lidar, cameras for onstable detection and avoidance, extendable mop and side brush, lifting chassis, hot mop washing, intelegent dirt detections, wayyyyyy better app, and more. It will 100% be worth the extra money (for something like that) over the bobsweep and roomba. Basically you can spend $300 on something that will kinda work, or 500 or something that is way more set and forget.

So the p10 pro ultra and the dreame L40 are almost identical. Mova was a dreame sub brand (now its own brand) so when I say identical I mean really close lol. I believe the L40 does have the ability to leave the mop pads back at the station when vacuuming (or raise them for carpet/rugs) where the p10 pro ultra just raises them. The mova does have a 3 year warranty though which is a plus. As for the differences between the ultra and pro ultra: Extendable side brush An RGB camera for better obstacle detection A newer mop cleaning system (with rubber wipers to automatically clean the dock) The ability to lift the main and side brushes A newer version of CleanGenius: Offers the option to mop after vacuuming instead of all at once Floor stain detection is available Mop cleaning is done at 70 degrees Celsius instead of 60 Is a little taller (103.8 mm vs. 97 mm) Can climb over obstacles a little higher (22 mm vs. 20 mm) I found that in another thread but I believe it’s accurate. In short, I 100% think it’s worst the extra $100. Main reasons being the better self cleaning dock, lifting side and main brush (for wet spills) the RGB camera and the stain detection. All of those will lead to a much better experience overall. Are they 100% necessary? No, but they will add over $100 value (my opinion) that you will notice in day to day use.

Imho all Roborocks listed above are overpriced and their object avoidance struggles on carpet with small items. Narwhal seems to have good object avoidance, but they were on sale for a much cheaper price before and their support is not great. Dreame L40 cleans good and object avoidance seems to be good, but apparently also has terrible after sales support. I used a Eufy X10, but despite the camera, it still picked up children’s toys occasionally from the ground and its vacuum performance was bad. S1 has the best mopping performance among all above (could be useful with the dirt children bring in), but it should have similar object avoidance compared to X10 and will catch small objects occasionally. It is also not great with lots of hair. I would recommend to get Narwhal from Costco around $1200 if object avoidance is important or a Dreame if you are ok with a lengthy warranty experience if things go wrong. If you are keen on Roborock and ok with its object avoidance limitations on carpet, a Qrevo Master could work under 1k.

I did end up getting the L40 Ultra after reading through your recs. The deal was too good to pass up! Thanks for all your help, really appreciate your time and effort on making these posts and the replies!

Thanks for all your help! You’re right, that price is just too good.

I’d go in with the understanding that the latest and greatest today will be outdated tomorrow. So I went for the best bang for my buck. I just got a Dreame L40 which was only $475. I actually like the performance. And really if money wasn’t an issue, I’d do a nice professional install to hook it up to my plumbing so I don’t have to fill it up or empty the dirty water. Then buy a new best bang for buck model every few years. If money is no object and I’d probably get the Dreame L40S (notice the s) which has 19,900 Pa for vacuum or Dreame x50 (dreames X line is their top of the line while the L is more midrange. With that said, I feel that Roborock is the more solid and reliable brand. But Dreame has its bells and whistles. Theres a lot of debate over mopping. Roller vs spinning. And for me personally with light traffic and a no shoes indoor home, I find the spinning mop good. The base washes the mop with hot water, and it picks up a lot of dirt. I also go to vacuum wars for reviews. Their top is Ecovacs, roborock, Yeedi and Dreame/Mova (mova is subsidiary of Dreame) Not everyone is impressed with Dreame but I like it so far. And a lot of people seem to like Norwal. With that said. I just feel like if I’m going to spend $1000. I’d rather get a $500 one now and and another $500 5 years from now. Than buy a $1000 now.

I mean you can get two for the price of 1. I have the L40 and I got it at prime a few weeks back at $474. With the money I saved, I’m planning on getting a better model next year. The latest and greatest this year will be outdated next, so I’m not going to pay premium price. It’s good bang for my buck.

L40 can be hooked into water

I also had the same dilemma and went with the L40.

Yeah p10 is 6th place and l40 is 20th place. Mova is a brand under Dreame. Basically same parts. Except the P10 pro ultra has a 13000 pa suction. I attribute it to just how they just test it and long term use. Technically the p10 is stronger. P10 13000 pa. L40 is 11000 pa. Extend brush on carpet. P10 (unless there is a few update) No L40 yes Leave Mop Pads at base. P10 no L40 yes At the time it seemed like the L40 was its mid range flagship. It also has little additional difference in the silver trim. After doing research it seems like there will be L40S with 19000 pa. I wont want to keep waiting for the next sale. But after going back and forth, I decided on the l40. So basically Dreame has retail stores. It has higher markup but they have sales like this. Their Mova gives more bang for buck and more direct to consumer and internet sales. So its year round price is lower. I’m going to play around with the removable mop feature. Only because I only want to mop every so often and I feel like it’s better to vacuum often without worrying about the mop catching or dragging on stuff. But there have been some people with issues with this and if that’s the case I’m going to leave it on. I’d rather have the option than not.

Dreame L40 has been amazing for us

I owned a Roborock s5 (very old), an ecovacs t30 (which I wild very soon) and now a dreame L40. I would Go with dreame or Roborock because of the software. The ecovacs was the only one that got stuck (3 times a week).

got the dreame l40 that and the mammotion yuka mini are my best buys of the year. made my life alote easier.

Buy via Amazon. I’ve heard returns directly to Dreame can be difficult. FWIW, I looooved my L40 until the mop pads started failing to install and I was never able to resolve. Everything else about it was amazing.

Returning my L40 tomorrow because of recurring mop installation issues. Seems pretty common but there’s no fix. It’s frustrating.

Better navigation for sure! I had a Roborock before the l40 i have now. Dreame has a lot more random going spot its already been rather then just cleaning the room. Also seems a lot slower maybe because of the random side trips.

In the reviews I've read and seen online, the L40 was better than most, but still slightly worse than the X40 when it came to obstacle avoidance. I rate obstacle avoidance as my absolute top priority, as most robovacs I've had can't complete a single run without eating a sock or a cord. I rate it higher than almost all the other things combined; so while the L40 actually got higher grades on some areas (mopping, notably) than the X40 despite being cheaper, I bought an X40 last week. It's been running three times a day (I'm teaching it different floors and rooms) and it hasn't had a failed run yet.

In vacuumwars tests, the X40 was just above average, while the L40 got 117 points (I think average is like 80). That said, it's entirely possible this is down to a firmware upgrade to how the mops work, and they tested the X40 before the upgrade; that's what I kind of convinced myself of at least 😁

I think most people, including myself, would've been happy with the L40. It's just that I upgraded for the first time in a few years and I just really, really wanted the absolute best obstacle avoidance money could buy.

Dreame l40 I just got mine a week ago ish and it’s freaking amazing. $500 on eBay right now new.

Sale on eBay right now from official dreame seller. Just got mine a week and a half ago ish. So awesome.

Just saying thanks for the commentary. It helped. I almost bought the roborock q10 s5+, since I figure it'd meet most our needs. But figured the wife would appreciate the automatic features of the next step up. Got stuck a while between the Mova p10 pro ultra and the Dreame L40 since they seem like the same product. Price is only $25 apart, so just went with the L40. Your recommendations helped.

I have a hardwood with dark spots on the first floor. L40 detected them as obstacles and didn't  clean about 40% of the surface. That happened every single time it was cleaning, and every time I updated the map and removed obstacles. Qrevo curv was eating cords in one place, that was easy to remove. Otherwise was cleaning 100% of the floor.

Only had it for 1 month but the Dreams L40 Ultra has been doing really well with my golden retriever hair. In the UK it came with the cutting brush and it’s had zero tangles

Paid €1280 in January for the L40. After just 500 sqm of cleaning, I’ve been waiting for over a month now for it to be returned, and I still don’t know if they’ll fix the mop attachment issue. Now it’s selling for €500. I won’t be buying anything from Dreame again for a while. Honestly, I’m much closer to just hiring a full-time maid from the Philippines — and that would cost me around €700–800 per month. My wife still objects, though.

I learned a lot by watching videos lots of videos. It really depends on what you feel is important. The vacuum wars spreadsheet in this post is helpful. Their comparison link is helpful. For value priced with good object avoidance, good app and overall good function. I don't know how these price out where you are. Dreame x40 Eufy e25 - best mopping Mova P50 - Not good if you have wide grout lines Dreame L40 - not the best object avoidance but good enough. If you need something cheaper you might research the Dreame x30. I havent really researched the lower priced models because object avoidance wasnt as good. All I know is what I learned searching for my vacuum. Look at the chart in this post to narrow things down.

I got Dreame first time last week and FWIW, Reddit told me that the L40 is actually more reliable than the X series. Something about the X having too many sensors and not a strong enough software to handle it, so it gets confused more. I got my L40 (for $349 USD) from an official Dreame store and love it

I can understand that. I can take you from my experience with two kids three cats and a dog, my dreame l40 does good not choking itself on hair ties and bobby pins all day. But just being on the subreddit I've had a lot of experience just similar to the eufy outrage and it just seems odd to me. Regardless of how well they do, because I don't think they're on the top of any reviewers charts. Not bad but not on the top.

Also got the L40 2 weeks ago and have none of the issues you mentioned. Probably you got a lemon :(

I have a Dream L40 Ultra (I think that's what it is) and it only cleans my first floor, which is maybe 800 sqft? I couldn't imagine not having that thing mop and vacuum every night. It's amazing. We first got a robot vacuum (Shark IQ) right after moving in because my wife wanted to vacuum every day and I thought that was crazy, I'm not spending 15 minutes each day to make lines in a rug. I will never go back, and in fact I bought my family L40 Ultra's when they were on sale for Prime day because it's such a game changer in keeping the house clean.

We have a Dreame L40 and love it with our golden retriever. The tricut brush is perfect with long hair and I never have to cut it. Mopping is quite good for general maintenance but it does leave a safety zone around carpets of about an inch. I love the extending mop and side brush. My corners are also cleaned and doesn’t bump in to furniture while cleaning the legs or the edges.

I completely agree that the new robots are not perfect. They cannot replace a stick vacuum. My 7 year-old Dyson V8 still does a far better job in one quick pass than my Dreame L40 on criss-cross deep clean with tricut brush. My first Dreame L40 was a dud, but Dreame replaced it in one week after they saw my review on Amazon. Hopefully it keeps running! It does pick up about 85% of my corgi’s fur on medium pile carpet. The Mova P10 Pro Ultra I have seems about the same. The $900 Dreame L40 and $700 Mova P10 Pro Ultra are much better than my S7 MaxV Ultra, but still not a replacement for the old Dyson V8. And I think these “20,000+ pascal” suction numbers are just vaporware marketing. I don’t think these flagship bots (Dreame X50, Roborock Saros, etc) are worth $1200 - $1600. The step down models are the much better value.

The L40 comes with a 3 year warranty and the X40 only comes with 2 years…. The L40 comes with the tricut brush in the box and I don’t think the X40 does which is odd. I had an L40 but the heater that heats the water did not work (cold not even a bit warm). So it’s gone back and got a refund as now waiting for the Black Friday discounts and torn down I order the X40 or not. Really annoying the X40 has less warranty and tricut is an extra?

Could you share why the Mova P10 Pro Ultra has a lower mopping score than the Dreame L40? I was able to order both of them during last week’s sale but I’m struggling to decide on which one to keep. I thought they were essentially the same robot? Did the mopping tests change since the Dreame L40 was reviewed or is the Mova really a worse mopper? Thanks!

Owner of a L40 here, since Black Friday. None of the issues here. Got the tri cut brush with it that does make a difference. The whole thing works like a charm. Love it. Bought a 3D printed dust bin - with hepa filter - so no more throw away bags. It seems it can be hit and miss with what you get from Dreame, which is a bad thing!

The freaking Dreame L40. We just got one after a bad experience with a cheaper roborock. You won't get everything in your list but your floors will be VERY clean and it wont be clogged all the time.

I have a dreame L40. I think it’ll do what you’re asking for. I absolutely love it and it’s much cheaper than the X40

The are both great top tier robots. Can't go wrong with either.

Vous pouvez régler l'eau sur la plupart des robots aspirateurs Dreame. Je ne les ai pas contactés, mais n'hésitez pas à le faire. Le Dreame L40 serait bien meilleur s'il utilisait un peu moins d'eau en mode basse puissance, au moins.

I just went back to my old L10 Ultra (the non S version).. it's a workhorse, 287 hours of run time and 103,000sqft cleaned so far and still going strong. The v50 absolutely destroyed the L10 as far a vacuuming performance given it has more power and those dual brushes, but the L10 (in my opinion is better in every other way). I should also point out that I have bought and returned the Ecovacs X9 Pro Omni, and the Dreame L40, none of which justified the price of upgrading from the L10.

I second Dreame, I have the L40, you can disable mopping in the app.

I have an L40 with a shedding girlfriend and a shedding pug (so both long and short hairs). The tricut brush does a brilliant job on both LVT and long-ish pile carpet. Obstacle avoidance is also brilliant. It's only become stuck once since I received it during Black Friday, and I blame that on the Christmas tree. As for the detergent question, I cannot say for certain as there's a lot of conflicting information out there. Dreame's support themselves have stated it's just used to clean the pads, and someone took the base station (of the very similar x40) apart to look at the tubes and couldn't find an obvious path between the detergent tank and the onboard water tank. That being said, when mine does a mop, there's a clear scent of a cleaning product in the air. That could be from mop pad cleaning though. Dreame's support have been known to get things wrong in the past (Costco warranty status, for example). I'd love an answer from the team at dreame that actually built it!

Yes I agreed with you. I heard many QA issues with the Chinese-made robots. I consider myself lucky as my Dreame L40 has worked flawlessly so far.

Roborocks are not known for their obstacle avoidance, so it's not surprising that the Curv climbs over small obstacles. L40 is surprisingly superior to X40, probably because its firmware is newer and more polished than the X40's.

Based on my experience, the L40 is similar to the X40 in obstacle avoidance—both can detect small objects, avoid large obstacles, and climb over tiny ones. However, when it comes to navigation and cleaning, the L40 is slightly better.

I got a Dreame L40 that only cleans the pads with detergent and then during mopping keeps them wet. I added Woldoclean detergent to my fresh water tank 0 problems and the apartment smells great and floors are clean:) Dont now how it works with the X50 and L50 now?

[L40 vs x40](https://youtu.be/zMUk6I1Ruv8?si=0GJscda07OjCIotE) [L40 vs Curve](https://youtu.be/VcetEIG9DNE?si=-Z8x9gP487RkLkmO) [L40 test](https://youtu.be/51YlbWSDGDs?si=QFzwB7NDV2S6-nty) [x40 vs s8](https://youtu.be/8mctdPywTjw?si=b1pn8Fk44IWIKo2s) Myself i got the L40 and love it works everytime 0 problems. It maps good and cleans good:)

I think not all are created equal, I bought a L40 on sale and it came with a tri cut brush. It still got clogged with pet hair. The dust bin you posted seems to have a nice square opening vs the restrictive rectangular opening. I also found that it’s vacuuming on carpet is sub par. I came back today to an error where the L40 couldn’t pick up the mops it had dropped and wanted me to manually put them back on after it cleaned the carpet.

I agree with you. If your problem is long hair and avoiding disasters for your pets, you should definitely buy L40/x/40

I've got a dreamtech which has self cleaning mops and it does pretty good. I've also got 2 kids and toys all over the floor and it barely gets stuck.

Got the dream a few weeks ago. It's a game changer. I had a Neato and a few iRobots over the years. With those units, I spent more time pulling out dog hair and untangling rollers than actually using the product. This is a lot more advanced, and with the self emptying, it's pretty great. All I do now is swap out the water tanks every day. Gripes? The mop pad on the base station gets hairy. It has difficulty getting dirt between the edge of the rug and the hardwood floors. It's expensive. All in all, it's a nice machine.

Just get the top level dreamebot or roborock (same company owns both). Their robots do an excellent job, and the app works really well!

Looks like you’re right, they are technically not both currently owned by xiaomi, but they share a ton of similarities. My coworker has a dreamebot and his app, replacement parts, features are nearly identical to my roborocks.

The Dreame robot mop system is our favorite new roommate! We have a new and an older iRobot Roomba vacuums and recently got this one for the main floor. We're very happy with it. It's available in many different price ranges.