L40 Ultra

Where? Camelcamelcamel has the L40 ultra as the lowest ever being \~499 but otherwise over 1k

I picked it up today at 477, I installed Keepa on firefox and checked, the last time itw as sub 500 was for a few days in May, but generally seems to hover at a much higher price. Either way theyre probably clearing stock for another model release

Dreame L40, coming from a stoopid roomba

I was thinking about the Narwhal as I needed a replacement unit and it reduced in price. I was walking in store yesterday and I saw a Dreame GoVac 405 on sale for the same price ($499CAD) and nabbed it. It was perfect since it was an upgrade for me. Not sure if you also want to switch to the GoVac 405 (rebranded Dreame L40 Ultra CE)

This version at Costco does not but other versions do.

Been running the exact same setup with a refurbished unit from that seller and it's been brilliant - the integration through HACS works seamlessly and you get proper local control without the cloud dependency nonsense most newer models force on you. The self-emptying dock is genuinely useful rather than just marketing fluff, especially if you're doing regular scheduled cleans throughout the week That video breakdown is spot on about the newer "features" mostly being gimmicks - I've had mine for about 8 months now and the core cleaning performance is still excellent, plus the refurb warranty actually proved useful when I had a minor sensor issue early on. The local control through HA means you can set up proper automations without worrying about some random cloud service going down or changing their terms One thing worth noting is that the zone cleaning works really well once you've mapped everything properly - I've got mine set to hit the kitchen after dinner prep and the living room before guests come over, all triggered through HA sensors rather than relying on their app scheduling

Slightly over budget but check out the Dreame l40 ultra or Mova p10 pro ultra. These are essentially the same (sister companies) and you will not come anywhere close to beating the performance for the price. You can get the [l40 ultra on eBay refurbished for $449](https://ebay.us/m/UROL86) right now, or the [mova p10 pro ultra](https://www.amazon.com/MOVA-P10-Pro-Ultra-360%C2%B0Obstacle/dp/B0DGR1VDTB/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=174216578632&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.NzCqKu3nlFFduePFwJznvA5wGHFgebsrMb8FS35FSbaAUmGXuS6Vg62wl60HDi0NsfL0sKU-daX-PmHZhmyCwF-V_KiTFkifQit2gbXYduq_B8rTniWPsOrLCWF6s1as32CqRkvY6O4Mt6RDFrb1dYWtDLseRLNlCsXjWt7Alc8ImSH_68Z_4NVqobo0YugC6y70fpv6CAUrDbqQL-fL_A.sEE2o97Dh-r320pNogxmJHwg9TEW_phCHW3zd6dHgs8&dib_tag=se&hvadid=729579260533&hvdev=m&hvexpln=68&hvlocphy=9061184&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=10306761465268670229--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=10306761465268670229&hvtargid=kwd-2382339236817&hydadcr=27756_14519795&keywords=mova+p10+pro+ultra&mcid=10a88f25aed8360a84279a2103f713f1&qid=1753128734&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRm&psc=1) is $499 new on Amazon. Only real difference between the 2 is the l40 ultra can drop its mop pads at the station. I can personally speak to how well they work with pet hair. I have a chow chow mix that sheds an INSANE amount. Ever since owning one of these and running it nightly, my floors are furless. Highly recommend! Also you don’t realize you need mopping til you actually get one that can. I went in not caring either but so glad I got one that does.

Dreame l40 ultra or Mova p10 pro ultra are solid and can often be found on sale for around $500. They are basically the same with the main difference being that the l40 can drop its mop pads at its base station. Don’t know what your budget is but at that value it is incredibly hard to beat. Keep an eye out on Amazon they should at the very least be back on sale on prime day.

The l40 ultra is probably the best value right now when on sale at the $500 price point. And honestly If you concern yourself with every negative review you will never buy a robot vacuum. None are perfect and you’ll find varying opinions on even the ones people consider the best. And you nailed it with your comment that if people have issues, they are more likely to go online and complain about it than they are to praise it when their device works flawlessly.

Well said. I’ve tried a few of the pricier ones and just bought a Dreame l40 ultra as my “budget” option to compare. While I think the pricier ones are a bit better in performance (in some ways, not all) it just feels silly spending $800+ on a machine whose features will be dated in just a couple years. I mean just take the Dreame x40 ultra for example. Last year they sold new at $1900. Now you can get one for around $500. And You cannot beat the value of the l40 ultra or Mova p10 pro ultra. I think it’s the perfect robot for most peoples needs.

I tried both the T80 Omni and eufy e28. You can check my last post for a comparison. I also have been using the Dreame l40 ultra. I have a dog that sheds an insane amount and all of these vacuums have no problem picking up his fur. So mopping is really where you’re gonna see the most differences. Considering the points you made about the types of messes in your place, you may find a roller mop would be a bit more beneficial for you. It’s better at cleaning up stains and spills. Now if you generally have clean floors, I don’t think you’d see a noticeable difference between a roller and a spinning mop, especially if you run it nightly. That is how my house is and the dirty water in my T80 is just as dirty in my l40 ultra. You could also check out the mova z50 or v50. I think the z50 seems to be one of the best mopping performers rn but unfortunately not available in my country. However I do have a v50 coming this week as I want to give that one a try too. I hear really good things.

I’m really interested in this one. I actually have the v50 showing up Monday but I’m already thinking of keeping it boxed and sending it back because I have been using a Dreame l40 ultra that I’ve been pretty impressed with and while I’m sure the v50 is better, will I think it’s $500 better when it’s just me and my dog in a 1 bed apartment with mostly hard floors? Probably not. I also had the e28 myself and share some of your complaints so I sent it back. I know a lot of people are sold on the idea of roller mops over spinning mops but after being able to test both, I definitely agree that a good spinning mop is better than a subpar roller mop. And tbh, unless you have a lot of spills or overly stained/dirty floors, you’re really not going to see much of a difference in performance between a roller and spin mop. I’ve had the eufy e28, ecovacs t80 Omni and they both returned the same amount of dirty water as the l40 ultra did.

I tried both of these as well. I wrote a comparison in my most recent post and agree with your points. I ended up buying the Dreame l40 ultra as a “budget” option and I think I’m going to keep that one. Sure the T80 Omni does some things better but imo not $400 better. And at the rate the tech is moving, these things will be outdated in just a couple years. So I figured I’ll stick with one that does a good job instead of dropping 2x-3x on one that gives me marginal performance improvements. Then I can buy another mid range robot in a couple years when the tech is better and end up spending on 2 what I would have on 1 premium robot.

Both. My dog sheds an insane amount and it does a good job at picking it up, especially on hard floor. It’s not perfect on the couple rugs I have but enough where instead of vacuuming Manually daily, I only have to do it once every 1-2 weeks. I just bought the tri-cut brush for it too which supposedly helps with hair and pet fur. The mova p10 pro ultra is still [on sale for $499](https://www.amazon.com/MOVA-P10-Pro-Ultra-360%C2%B0Obstacle/dp/B0DGR1VDTB) too which is basically the same as the l40 ultra.

I don’t think there are any mop rollers out rn that are worth buying over some of the better spinning mops. IF you’re adamant on sticking to rollers, I would wait for some of the newer options to release if you can. But also, I think roller mops are seriously overhyped. Don’t get me wrong, they are better at some things like cleaning up spills or excessive stains. But if you run it nightly and don’t have overly dirty floors, you’re not gonna notice much difference vs a spinning mop machine. As for alternative recs that aren’t rollers, people seem to like the Mova v50 and Roborock Saros 10r. I’ve personally been using the Dreame l40 ultra and I’m happy with it after trying the ecovacs T80 Omni and eufy e28 and not liking them all that much.

FWIW I always thought it was gimmicky until I bought a good one. Now I wondered why I didn’t buy it a long time ago. Especially with modern features like self emptying dust bins and water. Are you in the US? Idk if this is in your budget range but you should check out the mova p10 pro ultra or dreame l40 ultra. They are probably the best value out there for under $500.

I’ve also been testing these 2 side by side. I also agree that the T80 Omni does a better job. However, I still don’t think it’s good enough for me to want to keep it. And I especially don’t trust ecovacs as a brand. While it works good now, it’s been said over and over that reliability is not ecovacs strong suit. I do believe roller mops are better performers but there are more options right on the horizon so I think it’s worth waiting if you don’t have an immediate need to buy one and are adamant on getting one with a roller mop. My next test is to determine if a great spinning mop is better than a subpar roller mop. So I bought the mova v50 and dreame x40 and will make a post on my experience after spending some time with it.

The x40 that I bought was refurbished and had wonky navigation so I sent it back, but bought a new l40 ultra and I really like it. The navigation is pretty good and object avoidance has been pretty solid too. Is it perfect? No. And the T80 is probably still a bit better at mopping. But it was good enough for me to realize that it wasn’t worth paying the extra money for the T80 or e28. So both of them got sent back and I kept the l40 ultra. As for the Mova v50, I have it sitting in its box still in my house as I decided I’m going to send it back for the fact that I don’t feel it’s worth me spending twice the price as the l40 ultra for what is likely marginal performance gains. Don’t get me wrong I am sure it is better, but I’ve come to the conclusion that the robot vac tech is just moving so quickly that spending money on a premium robot whose features will be dated in just a couple years wasn’t a good idea. So I’m happy with the performance of the l40 ultra and will be keeping that one.

I was between these 2 and based on reviews it seems the z60 is the better performer (and has less issues) so that’s the one I went with. Only had it for a couple days but it’s a noticeable upgrade from the l40 ultra I was using.

Absolutely. I have a chow chow mix that sheds an insane amount. I kinda had just accepted the fact that there would always be tumbleweeds of dog fur everywhere and have lived with it for years. Always thought robot vacs were a gimmick until I tried one.they absolutely work. It picks up 99% of my dogs fur and I run it daily. I was kicking myself for not investing sooner. Check out the mova p10 pro ultra or the dreame l40 ultra. These are the most recommended in that price range. Very hard to beat that value for the features and performance it comes with at that price.

I own the Dreame l40 ultra which is basically the same as the Mova p10 pro. It’s ok with pet fur on carpet but it definitely leaves a good amount behind. I just bought the Mova z60 for that very reason (in addition to its improved mopping) and it does a much better job. Also The v50 is a noticeable upgrade from the p10 pro. If you have the money or just want the best, I would stretch it.

I had bought a dreame l40 ultra which people rave about here. I think it’s good for the price but it won’t replace manual mopping. I hadn’t manually mopped my place in the 2 months I had it as I was running the robot mop daily. Tbh I was kinda shocked how dirty my floors were still. I have the same kind of vinyl plank flooring myself. Also the vacuuming isn’t so great for dog fur on carpets if that applies to you. My dog sheds like crazy too and the robot does do an excellent job on hard floors but it lacks on carpets or rugs. I think it’s good for the price, but if you are focusing strictly on mopping, get a roller or track mop. Narwal flow, dreame aqua 10 pro, Mova z60, Eufy s1 pro are all good options. Eufy s2 pro could be out soon too.

Consider the l40 ultra. I love mine!

I bought 3: eufy e28, ecovacs T80 Omni and Dreame l40 ultra. The e28 was already returned. I’m on the fence about whether to keep the T80 or l40 but I’m leaning towards the l40. While I do think the T80 is a bit better, I don’t think it’s $400 better and I’m happy with the l40’s performance, especially for the price.

Mova p10 pro should be <$500 on October prime day. I have the dreame version of it (l40 ultra) and have been using it for the past 3 months. It’s a solid performer but I wouldn’t say carpet suction is the best for pet fur (I have a dog that sheds an insane amount) but hard floor vacuuming picks up pretty much everything. Mopping is good if you have non textured flooring, but same can be said for most spin mops. I do think it is the best you’ll get in the price range when on sale <$500 and is often at the top of best rated robot vacuum lists. Edit: [it’s $474 at Walmart rn.](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mova-P10-Pro-Ultra-Robot-Vacuum-Mop-Floor-Cleaning-Solution-13-000Pa-Suction-140-F-Hot-Water-Auto-Washing-Drying-Dual-Spinning-Extenable-Mop-360-Obst/17443573732?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=102786031&gclsrc=aw.ds&&adid=2222222222817443573732_102786031_185227333878_22924454124&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=770825223027&wl4=pla-2458810826114&wl5=9061184&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=5584646462&wl11=online&wl12=17443573732_102786031&veh=sem&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22924454124&gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIqOpzSopGcYzavSluimW2dak&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0Y3HBhCxARIsAN7931Uq2jQNpTfvPO1Wf2o2fqak7eJwJtPXi6dsRW2cOnJtxTBddrh4d0IaAnT6EALw_wcB)

None of those options. Buy a certified refurb L40 from Dreame's eBay store for $300. https://www.ebay.com/itm/356930402616 Certified refurb products are basically brand new and come with a free 2 year extended warranty. The L40 and Mova p10 pro ultra are identical robots (Mova and Dreame are sister companies) and both perform better than the QX revo, especially at obstacle avoidance.

Certified refurb L40 ultra for $252 https://www.ebay.com/itm/356930402616 Comes with 2 year extended warranty and Dreame's certified refurbs are practically brand new products. The L40 was one of the flagships of 2024 so you are getting a $1000 robot for a fraction of the price. Overall cleaning performance hasn't really improved in robots released in 2024 versus now, most manufacturers have been adding gimmicks or other QOL features like threshold climbing.

Depends on the price. For ~$279 the L40 ultra certified refurb from Dreame's eBay store is probably the best choice for the money right now. https://www.ebay.com/itm/356930402616 Also make sure you are looking at the Mova p10 PRO ULTRA, the p10 pro ultra is identical to the L40 ultra. Both the l40 and p10 pro ultra will be fine for your case. Just keep in mind robot vacs/mops do best at maintaining your floors. The robot will need to do a few deep cleans and then it will be able to maintain your floors provided you run it regularly. I run my robots daily or every other day.

In my opinion I would wait for another generation or two of roller mops before considering one. I have a Mova z60 and after working through some of its quirks, it's been a decent robot. The roller mop designs definitely have more maintenance and are less reliable than spinning mop designs which have been on the market for years now. My main issue right now with the z60 is how loud it is at max suction and the poor battery life, outside of those issues it cleans well and has good obstacle avoidance. If you are dead set on roller mops, check out the Narwhal flow 2 and Mova z60. Both perform well and have great obstacle avoidance. I would recommend the Qrevo curv 2 flow if it weren't for Roborock's still horrible obstacle avoidance. If you are willing to go spinning mop, Check out the Dreame L40 certified refurb from their eBay store, it's $279 and cleans as well as the other flagships out right now and let's tou save money so you can get a roller mop robot later in the future when the designs are more refined. https://www.ebay.com/itm/356930402616

I'm not an independent tester, I just have bought a few robots and research options since I find these robots facinating I've had a wyze robot vacuum, Eufy x10, dreame x40, Qrevo slim and now a Mova z60 and v50. For the best value, if you don't need threshold climbing and retracting lidar, I would 100% recommend the Dreame L40 Certified refurb deal on dreame's eBay page. Both of my x40s were certified refurbs and they worked very well, I would say even better than my z60. The spinning mops work well and it's a steal at $279. The absolute best right now is likely the Dreame X60, probably put the Dreame L50 and Mova v50 (basically identical robots) after that and then the Qrevo CurvX

It's gotten better since the s7 maxv but it's not nearly as good as the competition currently. I tested a Qrevo slim for a while and it had their latest star sight navigation and obstacle avoidance. It was fine on hard floors but still ate cables on hard floors and was horrible on carpet. Even their newer offerings are the same, tests well on hard floors but abysmal on carpet.

I have a Saros 20 and it's decent. Not worth the price roborock is asking because it's obstacle avoidance is abysmal. Worse than my old dreame x40 which can be had for around $300 now. I would instead get the dreame X60 or L60 as they are from the same generation of robots the Saros 20 is from. Dreame's obstacle avoidance is significantly better and cleaning performance between roborock and dreame is about equal. In my opinion, unless you need threshold climbing and all the other gimmicks, I would just save my money and get a L40 ultra certified refurb for $270: https://www.ebay.com/itm/356930402616 Cleaning performance is about equal with the mid to high end robots of today while having good obstacle avoidance. Should be fine for an apartment of your size.

Dreame L40 Certified Refurb ($279) https://www.ebay.com/itm/356930402616 This used to be a $1000 robovac back in 2024. Flagship level cleaning but now it's at the price of new entry level robots. It works as well as the new flagships but is missing some of the new features such as retracting lidar and threshold climbing. Certified refurb is practically brand new and comes with a 2 year extended warranty through squaretrade. I've had two certified refurb Dreame x40s and they were brand new when I opened them. Probably blows both of your current choices out of the water.

Because roborock has garbage obstacle avoidance, especially on carpet. Very few reviews test obstacle avoidance on carpet and the ones that do, clearly demonstrate the trend that roborocks obstacle avoidance is far worse than the competition. If you want good obstacle avoidance look at Dreame/Mova , Narwhal and Eufy. Return the roborock, save your money and get the L40 certified refurb. It will perform as well, at a fraction of the price and has good obstacle avoidance: https://www.ebay.com/itm/356930402616

Dreame x40/L40 certified refurb is the best robot for the money right now at $319 for the x40 and $280 for the L40. Basically identical robots but the x40 has a larger battery and marginally better obstacle avoidance. Both are significantly better than anything on the market for the $500 price point and are about equal to performance of robots in the $500-1000 range. Both were flagships back in 2024 and cleaning performance has not improved meaningfully since then other than roller mop robots and cyclonic dust bins (Eufy s2). Real world obstacle avoidance is top notch, significantly better than anything from roborock, even their current flagship, the Saros 20 which I own. If you aren't shopping for a $1000+ robot, you are better off saving your money and getting the certified refurb x40/l40 and wait a few years for the current flagships to become certified refurbs. The certified refurb models from Dreame are basically brand new and come with a 2 year extended warranty. I had two certified refurb x40s and they were great. https://www.ebay.com/itm/358554971565

If you are getting an l40s ultra AE for around $350 that's a really good deal. L40s is a major downgrade in navigation and obstacle avoidance since it lacks the RGB camera. The X40 and L40 certified refurbs are the best value for money at $300 and $270. I would go for the X40 at $300.

L40 ultra and P10 pro ultra are identical robots. The QX Revo is significantly worse than both the L40 and P10, especially when it comes to obstacle avoidance and navigation. Keep the L40 Ultra and maybe buy an extended warranty from square trade for it. I usually buy from Dreame/Movas eBay store since buying an extended warranty through there is only like $35-70 extra

Yeah L40 is easily the better robot.

My old L40 and X40 rarely ate cords.

Mova V50 for homes that are primarily carpet. Mova z60 for mostly hard floors. Dreame also makes great robots such as the L40. The l40 ultra goes on sale for around $300-400 frequently, it was one of the flagship robots back in 2024 and it still cleans as well as the flagships today. The Mova p10 pro ultra is also a great option and comes in around $300-400 as well and is identical to the L40. The l20 and l10 from Dreame are really old at this point and aren't great options.

What's your price range? There are the fancy flagships with all their features like threshold climbing, roller mops, multiple mop pads, retracting lidar and made up pressure numbers. I've got a Mova v50 and z60, happy with both of them but had two certified refurbished Dreame X40 ultras before. The x40s were basically flawless even though they were certified refurbs and ran daily on a schedule for over a year and a half before the front wheel broke and sent both in for warranty repairs through the extended warranty that you get with certified refurbs. Both were deemed unrepairable and I got a check for $1000 per robot. I bought my x40s for $800 through eBay. Even with the issues I had, I still recommend the x40, the L40 and the Mova P10 pro ultra 1st gen (identical to the l40, mova is a sister company of Dreame). These bots have flagship level cleaning performance and obstacle avoidance but are just missing the over the top bells and whistles that frankly cause more issues such as battery drain. Right now the certified refurb x40 is on sale through eBay for $319 which is an insanely good price considering it's a 1 year old flagship that performs better than any robot you can get even up.to the $500 price range. https://www.ebay.com/itm/357118449793

Why? Just get the l40 certified refurb from Dreame's eBay store for $300 and don't use the mopping function. You get all the other flagship level features but don't have to use the mop.

Get the L40 ultra certified refurb from Dreames eBay store. It's practically identical to the x40 in cleaning performance only differing in it's battery size. It's on sale right now for $252. You could buy two of them and have one for downstairs and one upstairs if you really wanted to. Pair it with the tricut brush and you won't have to worry about hair tangles. https://www.ebay.com/itm/356930402616 I had an x40 for two years before upgrading to a Mova v50. The x40 was excellent and the v50 isnt really better other than being quieter when on max suction and just quieter overall. I have three cats and my x40 did a great job picking up their hair and avoiding eating their cat toys. Don't put much emphasis into the pascal ratings. They are all bullshit and don't really tell you how well the robots clean. Cleaning performance is a function of alot more variables than just pascals and the way each manufacturer tests isn't comparable. Save your money, get the L40, it will be perfectly fine for your use case. If you really need special features like retracting lidar for better clearance and threshold climbing, check out the Mova V50, it is much better than the L40 gen 2, heck even the old L40 is better than the gen 2 since it has an actual obstacle avoidance system.

Dreame x40/L40 certified refurb is the best robot for the money right now at $319 for the x40 and $280 for the L40. Basically identical robots but the x40 has a larger battery and marginally better obstacle avoidance. Both are significantly better than anything on the market for the $500 price point and are about equal to performance of robots in the $500-1000 range. Both were flagships back in 2024 and cleaning performance has not improved meaningfully since then other than roller mop robots and cyclonic dust bins (Eufy s2). Real world obstacle avoidance is top notch, significantly better than anything from roborock, even their current flagship, the Saros 20 which I own. If you aren't shopping for a $1000+ robot, you are better off saving your money and getting the certified refurb x40/l40 and wait a few years for the current flagships to become certified refurbs. The certified refurb models from Dreame are basically brand new and come with a 2 year extended warranty. I had two certified refurb x40s and they were great. https://www.ebay.com/itm/358554971565

If you are getting an l40s ultra AE for around $350 that's a really good deal. L40s is a major downgrade in navigation and obstacle avoidance since it lacks the RGB camera. The X40 and L40 certified refurbs are the best value for money at $300 and $270. I would go for the X40 at $300.

Check this video out: https://youtu.be/Pv9_2D_Xc5k?t=1362&si=fvDK2ObYibJ-bT3A He goes through the local smart home integrations. Most brands right now have cloud control extensions such as Dreame, Mova, Eufy, Roborock. The newer models have local control. Right now the best value for money is the Dreame L40 Certified Refurb for $279 https://www.ebay.com/itm/356930402616 I used to have two X40 (basically identical other than larger battery) certified refurbs and they were practically brand new and had no issues with them until the front wheel cracked. The certified refurbs come with a 2 year extended warranty through squaretrade, so I filed a claim and got refunded for each robot. The L40 has been around since 2024 and was one of the flagships from then. Cleaning performance has not improved meaningfully since then. Instead the newer models have introduced new features/gimmicks such as threshold climbing, mop pad switching, dual solutions docks, and other small but not super meaningful changes in core cleaning performance. The only real leap has been roller mops, but they have their own issues such as leaking and extra maintenance. The L40 is controllable through the Dreame HACS extension and it works really well through that. I used it for my Dreame x40 certified refurb and on my Mova V50. Exposes all the features into home assistant.