Dreame - L40S Ultra

Hey mate. I’m in Australia too and doing the same research. My shortlist for this price range is eufy x10 pro Omni at Harvey Norman for $999 or Dreame l10s pro ultra heat $1199 at Amazon. I’m currently determining if it’s worth stepping up to mova p50 pro ultra ($1750) or Dreame L40s pro ultra ($1799) as I have two messy young children and full size single story house for it to look after.

I think I have landed on the Dreame L40s pro ultra on sale at JB currently. Seems to have all the features. If you are dead set on cutting roller the mova seems a goer.

I have ADHD and cleaning is not one of my passion. I also live by myself so if I don't clean, no one will. Usually I'd clean every weekend or at least I try to lol which means no vacuuming/mopping during the week or over a week. I have 2 cats so their shedded fur, little pieces of litter and the food crumbs were always on the floor. they'll accumulate again after a day so I kinda closed one eye (or both 😂) and ignored them.... so y'all can understand why I really wanted one Coming to a messy home is frustrating and having messy living space doesn't help with my psyche. It was just so difficult to make a decision as every big brands have x variations of the same "model" and they all seem to have similar features.... and most of the official websites don't really offer customer friendly comparison tool. so honestly I didn't know what to buy. After weeks of watching review/test videos on YT, lurking on this subreddit & Vacuum Wars. I decided to get mid-range robot vacuum while there is end of financial year sale (I'm in Australia) and the only way to get over analysis paralysis is to compare directly. My initial budget was around $1200AUD so I shortlisted vacs around that price range and also included ones up to $1500ish if it was highly recommended by the reviewers (that didn't have "paid promotions"). Once I listed all the key features and specs, I highlighted the ones that stands out (top 2-3) and according to this analysis Dreame was the winner. I pondered buying L30 but really liked the extending side brush. I put it to the test as soon as I set it up, and it vacuumed and mopped almost perfectly! The floor hasn't been mopped over 3 weeks so there were some parts that were still not clean after initial vacuum&mop cycle so I ran it again for areas that still needed more rub. The floor is a section of the living room where I had the most foot traffic so I ran 2 cycles.. I really cannot complain how well it did. One thing I didn't realise was that it only has the extending brush on the right side and there's none on the left and it still vacuumed just fine. I've set up 2 daily cycles: vacuum only in the morning and vacuum+mop in the afternoon so the house would always be clean when I come home after work or when I finish wfh. I haven't tried cleaning on the carpet as I'll need to pick things up from the bedroom floor, I'll post an update when I run them in the bedrooms tomorrow or this weekend. I'm so happy that I finally bought one and it's doing a great job!

Yeah it sucks (no pun intended) on carpet, I have to manually hand vacuum carpets myself, luckily I only have a few. Aside from that, everything else is solid.

I've posted a comment recommending a QRevo C for those in Australia with a strict budget of 1500 AUD and the Dreame L40S Ultra for those looking for flagship performance at a cheaper price of 1999 AUD.

I'd recommend the Roborock Qrevo C, priced at AUD 1,298 at Harvey Norman and the official Roborock website store (I've seen negative reviews of the roborock store in Australia so I'd choose Harvey Norman), which offers Product Care for up to two years. The Dreame L30 Ultra S was considered but ultimately rejected because the QRevo C offered the same functionality at a lower price. Do tap the dust out of the filter once every few cleaning cycles, and clean it once every few weeks. The removable mop tray on the QRevo makes cleaning easy. If you wanted to go above your budget, I'd recommend the Dreame L40S Ultra at 1999 AUD, as its better suited to deal with pet fur for its onboard fur compression feature which means it will use the dustbin more effectively and won't get clogged with fur, with space still present in the dustbin. It will also clean the mop pad's cleaning tray more effectively (less cleaning for you) and can clean its own filter when auto-emptying (the need to clean the filter will be reduced to about once every few weeks, as the need to tap the dust out of the filter is eliminated). It also cleans quieter, which will be helpful for any skittish pets. It can remove mops for rugs.

I’d look more at the Dreame L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra (1999/1799 respectively on JB HIFI). It’ll deal much better with fur since it has the automatic fur compression feature that works as it vacuums so it’s a better choice for homes with pets.

If it helps, the L40 Ultra is positioned as being the more budget friendly flagship as it lacks an RGB camera and only uses structured light as its obstacle avoidance sensors. I’d recommend this if your furry friend won’t poop or vomit and if your toddler won’t make a mess that robots cannot clean like food chunks. Strangely, it’s more expensive than the Dreame L40S Pro Ultra which has an RGB camera. The dreame L40S Pro Ultra has much better obstacle avoidance and object detection for smarter cleaning features like stain detection and large particle detection where it’ll slowly mop only or slowly vacuum only and not use the side brush so it won’t be kicked away. Both models are cheaper than the Roborock models with the same smart features and has good anti-tangling, at least on JB HIFI and Harvey Norman. The Curv is 2297 AUD and the near identical Edge is 2799. If you need more help, feel free to reply mate :)

I’d look more at the Dreame L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra (1999/1799 respectively on JB HIFI). It’ll deal much better with fur since it has the automatic fur compression feature that works as it vacuums so it’s a better choice for homes with pets.

If it helps, the L40 Ultra is positioned as being the more budget friendly flagship as it lacks an RGB camera and only uses structured light as its obstacle avoidance sensors. I’d recommend this if your furry friend won’t poop or vomit and if your toddler won’t make a mess that robots cannot clean like food chunks. Strangely, it’s more expensive than the Dreame L40S Pro Ultra which has an RGB camera. The dreame L40S Pro Ultra has much better obstacle avoidance and object detection for smarter cleaning features like stain detection and large particle detection where it’ll slowly mop only or slowly vacuum only and not use the side brush so it won’t be kicked away. Both models are cheaper than the Roborock models with the same smart features and has good anti-tangling, at least on JB HIFI and Harvey Norman. The Curv is 2297 AUD and the near identical Edge is 2799. If you need more help, feel free to reply mate :)

The Dreame L40S Pro Ultra will be the best priced model if you value self cleaning ability (both the filter and the mop pad tray) and anti tangling. It basically is the dreame X50 Ultra without the ProLeap system and the retracting lidar for £749 in the UK. I misread £ as € sorry :(

1. It is closest to the Dreame L50 ultra. It will be able to clean its filter when autoemptying and its mop tray self cleaning is much better. Anti-tangling is also included without needing a TriCut brush as it has the conical antitangle brushes. This model will be best for homes with heavy shedders as it will compress the fur in the dustbin as it vacuums to best utilize the space. 2. I’ve had a dreame made robot for Xiaomi and it’s been going great for 700 hours so far. Remember that online forums will have self selection bias where most will post because they need help or are upset at the product, not because they are happy with it.

If your budget is up to 2000 AUD, I’d recommend the Dreame L40S Ultra at 1999 AUD. This is because it’s currently the easiest robot to maintain and empty and is best suited for pet fur and dust. It is a flagship robot at a not so flagship price. 1. Most robot vacuums’ filter easily get clogged by dust. I run mine twice a day in a dusty city (AQI PM2.5 is usually at the high 70s) and I need to tap the dust out of the filter of an older robot at the end of every day. However the new dreame robots (L40S ultra, L40S pro Ultra, and the X50 Ultra) in Australia cleans its own filter when it autoempties. For pet fur: The dual anti-tangle main brushes work great for pet hair and the same models can also compress the fur in the dustbin as it vacuums. I have a heavily shedding corgi and the old robot wouldn’t be able to handle his fur as it’ll be clogged with a lot of empty space on the sides of the dustbin to the point that running it twice a day would mean he wouldn’t shed enough for this to happen. However, the models with the fur compression feature will be able to push any fur to the end of the dustbin and will not be as easily clogged with empty spaces. It can also remove the mop for cleaning the carpets as the mops dragging on the carpets will reduce the carpet cleaning efficiency. For maintaining the mopping part: The AceClean dryboard (its mop pad cleaning tray) on these models is currently the best self cleaning mop tray that can clean its mops as the only maintenance required is to occasionally clean a removable palm-sized drainage filter and wipe down the flat dryboard (no nooks and crannies for dirt to hide). If your budget is 1500 AUD, I’d choose the roborock QRevo C (1298 at Harvey Norman). It has good navigation, coverage, and does well with pet hair tangling around the brushes. However, the maintenance won’t be as hands off. Luckily, the mop pad cleaning tray is completely removable for cleaning. It uses the friction between the mop pads and the nubs to clean the mop giving places for dirt to hide whereas the AceClean dryboard uses water jets to clean the mops like a dishwasher.

It has a larger capacity, an RGB camera, a retracting lidar, and the ProLeap system. Get the X50 Ultra if you have a threshold taller than 2.2cm and shorter than 5cm or you need it to enter spaces a robot can enter (it can be 9.8cm tall with the lidar retracted). If you just want the RGB camera for much better obstacle avoidance, more smart cleaning features (automatically remopping and automatically intensively vacuuming), and the ability for it take to take photos of your pet, get the L40S Pro Ultra which is 2299 AUD.

If you want it to mop, I’d recommend the L40S Pro Ultra. It does have an RGB camera but it really helps with its obstacle avoidance compared to the L40S Ultra (which seems to be limited to the UK and Australia) which has no RGB camera. It has filter self cleaning when it autoempties, anti-tangle brushes, better fur pickup on carpet, and a live fur compression feature in the dustbin if your cats shed a lot. This is a combo model if this matters to you. I think a combo model is well suited for homes with mostly hard floors as the mops can take care of the fine dust that a robot vacuum’s relatively motor can’t pick up. It is also a rather nice mopping robot and it cleans its mop pads and mop pad cleaning tray rather well too.

Sorry I meant the L40S Pro Ultra, the L40S ultra is only available in the UK and Australia. The l40 ultra is a completely different model with no filter self cleaning.

The Dreame L40s Pro Ultra (£799) will be the best budget premium robot vacuum in the UK, as it is essentially an X50 Ultra, if you don't need the threshold-crossing ability or the retracting LIDAR, while being cheaper than the X40 Ultra. Everything else will be the same. It'll have the best self-cleaning ability at the best price due to the AceClean dryboard, which cleans itself much better than the Dreame X/L40 Ultra and the self-cleaning filter in the dustbin (works best if you set it to vacuum first before mopping, as mud won't be in the filter). It's also great for homes with pets that are heavy shedders, as it also has a live fur compression feature that compresses the fur in the dustbin as it vacuums to make the best use of the dustbin's space and mitigates the issue of the dustbin being clogged yet having space on the sides, something only available on the L50 Ultra and the X50 Ultra. It'll pick up fur and hair from carpets better than the Tricut brush, as it has dual rollers. I really liked how it was able to mark my furniture as something it could get stuck on and smartly cleaned around it, instead of trying to climb my coffee table with U-legs, something my LDS-only robot couldn't do (it tried humping it instead). The best budget option will be the [Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2](https://dreamestore.co.uk/products/dreame-l10s-ultra-gen-2-robot-vacuum-and-mop-with-self-cleaning-and-auto-empty). Due to the lack of an RGB camera, the obstacle avoidance won't be as good and wouldn't be as good at self-cleaning compared to the L40s Pro Ultra. If you want it to deal well with pet hair, you'll need to purchase the Tricut brush as well. For the Xiaomi robots, the X20 Pro is a good choice, but obstacle avoidance is the same as the Dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2, and it cannot extend and swing its mop (MopSwing is on for the L10S Ultra Gen 2 in some purchasing regions) like the above choices. It is also compatible with the TriCut brush if needed.

For people who don’t need the better threshold crossing and retractable lidar, I think it’s a really good option. Shame it’s only in the UK.

I noticed the dreame L40S Pro Ultra is cheaper than the X40 Ultra but more expensive than the L40 Ultra. I’d recommend the L40S Pro Ultra.

Oh 😅 If your home has a lot of pet hair, I’d recommend it since it can deal with thicker pet hair that the TriCut brush may not be able to deal with.

I like how Jamie Andrews tests aspects that are advertised for quality of life (self cleaning the dock and using hot water) whereas vacuumwars simply rattles them off like a sales brief checklist. I can confirm Dreame does reach the advertised hot water temperature listed (I tested myself with an electric thermometer connected to the area on the washboard where the water would flow from the pipes) and it usually hovers at about 5-10°C below the advertised temperature before reaching it for a second or two. Don’t know about the new AceClean dock as I don’t have it but Dreame told me any misplacement of the temperature probes will result in measuring errors of more than 10°C.

The Xiaomi X20+ is best suited for smaller homes (<60sqm) as it lacks an onboard water tank and will be less water efficient. The difference in obstacle avoidance between LDS-only models and robots with good obstacle avoidance firmware and an RGB camera with an LED fill light for darker environments is night and day. My LDS-only Xiaomi would always get tricked by a floor to ceiling mirror and think there’s a magical place beyond it due to the limitations of LDS. My Dreame L40S Pro Ultra (same 110° LDS sensor but with an RGB camera and fill light) was able to accurately tell that the mirror was actually a mirror wall and after cleaning that room, correctly identify it as a wall (the LDS and the RGB camera would fight while it’s cleaning the room over whether or not it’s a wall or a magical portal but it wised up when it finished cleaning that room).

How tall is the piece of transition? For a single one up to 30mm, the roborock models with the AdaptiLift chassis (the most expensive QRevo Curv/Edge and the Saros line). Anything higher up to 4.2cm, if a threshold is less than 9cm long (5.2cm if it is at least 9cm long), will need the Dreame X50 Ultra or any equivalent MOVA model (V50 Ultra). I am aware that Dreame's L/X50 Ultra and any model (such as MOVA's V50 Ultra or the rare UK-only Dreame L40s Pro Ultra) that uses dual conical brushes has a *live fur compression* feature (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOOU0uJsVdU), which helps mitigate the issue of pet fur clogging the dustbin, even though the space isn't fully utilized. I saw it in action, and I think it lives up to its claim. It also cleans its filter when auto-emptying. This should be helpful for homes with heavy shedders such as yours\~ For paw prints, I think a robot that can identify messes like this and act accordingly would be important too. Dreame and Narwal do well with this if you turn on certain functions, such as their smart cleaning mode and intelligent mess detection.

It depends on tall your thresholds are: For single thresholds: Up to 2cm: most modern robots can cross with no difficulty Up to 2.2cm: Dreame L/X40 Ultra. The dreame models with the EasyLeap wheels (L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and the L50 Ultra) can cross the first threshold up to 2.2cm and a secondary threshold right after up to 1.8cm Up to 3cm: roborock models with the AdaptLift chassis. It can cross a single threshold up to 3cm and a secondary threshold right after up to 1cm. Up to 3.5cm: the MOVA P60 Pro Ultra (mainland china only for now) has active suspension like the roborock Adaptlift chassis and the EasyLeap edge climbing wheels to climb a single threshold up to 3.5cm and a secondary threshold up to 3.5cm. Up to 4.2cm: Dreame X50 Ultra, Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track, and the MOVA V50 Ultra all can cross a single threshold up to 4.2cm if the threshold is shorter than 9-10cm (5.2cm if the threshold is sufficiently long enough) and a secondary threshold up to 1.8cm.

Check out the valetudo project. Otherwise, there are a lot of good robots with no RGB cameras and only structured light. The dreame L40S Ultra (not the L40 Ultra) can be checked out as a structured light flagship model.

The Dreame L40S Pro Ultra is a good step up from the L40 Ultra. Better self cleaning of the filter and base station and fur management with the onboard fur compression.

For hair, the Dreame X50 Ultra will be much better as it had the automatic fur compression feature that works as it vacuums. If available, the Dreame L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and the L50 Ultra are cheaper models with this same fur compression feature and lack the ProLeap system which is fine in your home. I also found a life hack for the X50 Ultra where you can change the mop pad holders to be the ones where it has suspension (it can go up 2mm and down 1mm and tilt up to 5°) for more evenly applied pressure for uneven floors.

What’s your purchasing region (usually country)? this will dictate your available choices. If in the EU, UK, and Australia, I’d go for the L40S Ultra (not the L40 Ultra) as the brushes have been improved to pick up pet hair on carpet. This is a somewhat cost effective combo model. For a vacuum only robot, the roborock Q5 Pro+ or Max+ are popular choices. The Q8 Max+ and Pro+ are also popular and will do better with obstacles.

The dreame X50 Ultra will be the best for self cleaning. It can clean its filter of fine dust when autoemptying since the air from the autoempty station blows through the filter in the opposite direction of the airflow when vacuuming. If not in the US, these models will also have the same self cleaning functionality: Dreame L50 Ultra; Dreame L40S Pro Ultra; Dreame L40S Ultra; and the MOVA V50 Ultra. As far as I know, roborock model has this functionality.

The dreame X50 Ultra will be the best for self cleaning. It can clean its filter of fine dust when autoemptying since the air from the autoempty station blows through the filter in the opposite direction of the airflow when vacuuming. If not in the US, these models will also have the same self cleaning functionality: Dreame L50 Ultra; Dreame L40S Pro Ultra; Dreame L40S Ultra; and the MOVA V50 Ultra. As far as I know, roborock model has this functionality.

If your cutie patootie is likely to make messes that robots shouldn’t touch (poop, vomit), robots with a good obstacle avoidance software + RGB camera will be best suited but will generally be more expensive. Since golden retrievers shed a lot, I’d recommend the Dreame L40S Pro Ultra at 1999 since it’s basically the dreame X50 ultra if you don’t need it to cross thresholds higher than 2.2cm and need a retracting lidar. I recommend this combo model (and some other dreame/MOVA models) for fur because of the onboard fur compression feature that compresses the fur in the dustbin as it vacuums so it won’t get as clogged as easily. If you want it to mop best, the MOVA z50 ultra is a great choice at 2199 AUD with the best mopping and will be the best roller mop for hair since the comb-shaped scrapers are best suited to deal with hair tangles.

In the US, the L40 Ultra is a good all around combo that had its price drop to 399 USD with the same performance as the Dreame X40 Ultra as well as its obstacle avoidance! I’d recommend running your robot twice a day. That’s what I do with my heavily shedding corgi.

After daily vacuuming then mopping, my hardwood floors became notably softer and had a shine. I’d recommend robots with roller mops or spinning mops. For roller mop robots, I’d recommend the eufy S1 (Pro), eufy E25/E28, MOVA Z50 Ultra, and the Narwal Flow. All of these robots except for the eufy E25/E28 will have good obstacle avoidance. For spinning mop robots, I’d recommend dreame/MOVA robots with the AceClean/jetspray dryboard, the Narwal Freo line with an all in one base station, the roborock qrevo line. If obstacle avoidance is important, I’d consider the Dreame L40S Pro Ultra, L/X50 Ultra and the Narwal Z/Z10 Ultra.

You’d definitely want your robot to clean frequently. I run mine twice a day. Dreame L40S Pro Ultra is 1799 at JB HIFI and will clean just as well if there are no thresholds up to 2.4cm. QRevo edge will be better for higher thresholds up to 3cm. However, the MOVA z50 ultra will mop much better than both models.

If pet poop and wires aren’t an issue, the MOVA P50 Ultra at 1999 AUD will be the best value buy. It’s basically the MOVA P50 Pro Ultra without an RGB camera. The Dreame L40S Ultra is also at the same price and will be better for pet fur as it can compress the fur in the dust bin as it vacuums and comes with a detangling brush whereas the P50 needs a TriCut brush to be anti-tangling.

If threshold crossing and cleaning under furniture with a low clearance isn't necessary, I'd look at the Dreame L40S Pro Ultra at 749 pounds. It's basically the X50 Ultra without the proleap system and the retracting lidar.

The best self cleaning models can also clean the base station’s mop washboard and the vacuum’s filter. I’d recommend these ones which can do this: Currently the best at self cleaning: the MOVA V50 Ultra can dry it’s dustbin and dustbag to prevent mildew unlike the other choices which brings it above the other robots Almost there: Dreame L/X50 Ultra, L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra In the middle: MOVA P50 Pro Ultra Pretty okay at self cleaning: MOVA P10 Pro Ultra, Dreame L/X40, roborock models with the motorized scrapers, Narwal models with an all in one base station.

L10S Pro Ultra Heat can clean the mops, dry them and autoempty the dustbin but that’s about it for cleaning itself. These other robots can clean the mop washboard which cleans the mop and usually can get dirty as the plastic nubs that rub against the mops will trap dirt. Some can clean the filter by blowing air against the filter when autoemptying.

For combo models, dustbin sizes are generally smaller but Dreame’s L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra, and the X50 Ultra’s dustbin is relatively bigger than most at 395ml. It also has a live fur compression feature that will work as the robot vacuums (happens after the first 20sqm is cleaned and once every 40sqm after that) to best use dustbin space. If your groodle doesn’t make any messes that can’t be cleaned like poop/pee/vomit, and obstacles like cables aren’t an issue, the L40S Ultra is a good choice at 1499 AUD. If that is an issue, the L40S Pro Ultra is a good choice at 1799 AUD (only difference is that there’s an RGB camera to help detect these messes). If there are thresholds up to 3cm, Roborock’s Curv/Edge/Saros robots with the AdaptLift feature will be well suited too. If thresholds up to 4-5cm are an issue, the X50 ultra is a good choice.

That’s the only trade off. The L40S Pro Ultra will do well with hair on carpets though.

Dreame’s L40S Pro Ultra will have the best self cleaning as it cleans the filter (your filter won’t be as clogged with dust as easy) and the mop pad cleaning tray the best.

Why not L40S Ultra?

Significantly better tangle free brushes, Ace-Clean Self Cleanung Board, more suction, better obstacle avoidance. I would say for 50 more its the better deal Its basically an L50 without the lidar retracting feature. You could also say its a P50 Pro Ultra with better brushes and the Dreame base station with water hookup option.

I've used the Dreame L40s Pro Ultra for a while, and I agree it's a solid choice for what you're seeking, especially with the AceClean dryboard feature. It does an excellent job with pet hair and tackles hardwood floors effectively. You might also want to consider the Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 if the budget is tighter; it's slightly less refined without the RGB camera but still performs well. For even more in-depth insights on robot vacuums, ConsumerRating has some great comparisons and reviews that might help tailor your decision to your needs.

Dream L40S Pro Ultra, L50 OR X50 all have a great dual anti tangle brush and self cleaning base with hair compression. Mop is not as good as roller mops but since you want low maintenance and not best mopping these are your best options. Just dont expect good performance on high pile carpets.

Hello, I know that feeling. I got my first vaccum On Monday and I am pretty happy with it. L10s pro ultra HEAT in my region is btw 600-700 But I need more info, do u need mopping ? Pets ? Which floor do u have it ? R u planning to make ur robot work in the dark ?

I just got the same one but I found it so frustrating that most of the big review videos didn't include it.. apparently the heat version isn't available in the US. Which makes sense why the reviews were limited. I absolutely love it though.

You probably wouldn't be able to get anything to clean that whole space by itself. I have the L10s pro ultra heat and it has a way to hook up for auto fill and drain if you have a way to do that. I would say they could probably top out around 1000sq ft a charge since you're doing hard floors and mopping. You can set it to clean a specific area and have they go off in a relay so the whole area is covered. Dreame has some pretty cheap options that you might want to look into. The L10S ultra is around $400 on sale I believe and you can get a auto hookup I believe.

I’d say go for the L10s Ultra Pro Heat over the L20 if you don’t care for the leaving the pads in the base station! Hot water mop pad cleaning is a big plus IMO.

Fair enough. I was certainly speaking from a perspective if you don’t have much carpet area to clean (in my case it’s 90% hardwood floors). Both are great options. L20 is for $799 for Prime day and L10s Pro Ultra heat is going for $735. Quite the deal! That being said, I pulled the trigger on the QRevo pro lol. Not sure if I am going to regret it or not. Also the Deebot T30s OMNI is for $699 as well. I would have picked that but heard not so good things about the software.

L40 Ultra with current in store promotions will definitely make the decision a lot easier, since it can be had for $399 before tax, plus they throw in free gifts with purchase. It's a better overall model than the L10s with more suction, battery, better self washing and washboard cleaning as well. It's a steal for the price and if you were considering one over the other, I'd say overall L40 Ultra is a great value product in the market right now. Hope this helps narrow down the search a little for you, and if any questions, don't hesitate to reach out. happy hunting!

I know I'm a little late on this one, but I also agree that the L40 Ultra when ordered through physical store will get you the best bang for your buck on this robot vacuum, and with the combined suction power, battery, and tricut brush, I think you'll be happy with the results. hope this helps narrow down your search a little, and if any further questions, feel free to reach out. happy hunting!

the mopping portion in my opinion is definitely worth it, considering most models that come with mopping also come with other convenience features beyond just mopping that justify a higher price. Even so, just because you can find good RVC's at a premium doesn't mean you have to pay a premium, the DREAMME X40 Ultra and L40 Ultra are great examples of RVC's that give you good quality of life features and can be had for a better price than the model you we're looking at.

L40 ultra works like a charm. I have only had it for a few weeks.

My first ever robo vac is L40 Ultra. I'm happy with it but the object detection is far from perfect and it can't detect water ponds. Which robot can understand there is water on the surface and stops vacuuming? Also why don't companies let users to scan their phone with the app / cam and their ai models the house items...? Like that is curtain edge not ribbon or cable etc.

Thanks for letting me know. I'm overall happy with my robot but still unsure how the water cleaning is working with that

No issues at all with our L40 Ultra. Loving it.

I have an L40 ultra, two shaggy rugs and 20 m² of shaggy carpet and the results are perfect so the problem does not come from the robot

Genius, in automatic mode The pile is longer than that of your carpet And the result is perfect

Which Mova? I had Mova P10 Ultra that I bought for a good price but I returned it because there was a 538$ deal in Dreame store in Westfield and I got L40 Ultra with cleaning solution + Tricut brush and some Dreame life gifts. I’m really happy, i just paid 70$ more and got a better vac and some much gifts.

Pretty much everything improved. Go for the L40

I had a L10s Pro Heat and really liked it, but the price dropped a few weeks after purchase and I didn't find the edge mopping as advertised, so I sent it back to Amazon and got the L40 Ultra a few days ago. I don't think I would have sent the Heat back if the price hadn't dropped $150 two weeks after I bought it and the L40 hadn't dropped $200, but I am finding the L40 does a great job: it is quieter than the Heat, is vacuuming extremely well - like the Heat, and mopping incredibly well, and the extras over the Heat (dropping the mop pads, better object avoidance, swing out brush) are great. So, definitely happy with the swap and am not having any of the issues the OP is reporting. The only two things I am noticing that I do not like are 1) the mop/mop tray cleaning is loud (the rubber-on-plastic squeaking is noticeable, for sure) and 2) when on carpet, there's a rattling sound. I'm hopeful #2 is nothing serious. Otherwise, loving this bot so far.

Did the robot search for a week straight myself and realized the more expensive options have stuff i dont need. Almost went with the mova p10 pro ultra, but then saw the L40 ultra model was the same price last week. Chose this as my first robot. I found a similar deal to yours. So far, I love it. I feel like it's still breaking in and learning how to be a vacuum in ai mode. The app is fine. I'm on a galaxy S21. Not a new phone by any means. Just be specific and detail what kind of floor each room is. I only have a little bit of hard flooring, and some of my carpet is kind of shaggy so I love that I can tell it to leave the mop pads at the base (only robot in its price range that does this). My floors look overall cleaner. I do have one rug that still retains some dog hair, but I know every time it does a run, it looks better each time. Not to mention I haven't changed its suction setting as it's fairly quiet it's hardly noticeable when vacuuming a different room than you are.The first time and a couple of times since when returning to the dock, it attempts to dock like 5-10 times before it is satisfied. For that price and unless you need threshold capabilities, this, imo is the best bot. I don't expect it to deep clean every run, but the fact that it will vacuum more than I would this is a beautiful luxury. I'm lucky enough that this thing even goes under my couches! The funny thing is how they do their firmware because a robot might get a bad rep, but once an update fixes it, all previous reviews are made pointless. I'm curious how fast these current robots will be outdated because sooo many new features and robots come out every few months it seems. Whoops..too much? I'm still in the honeymoon phase.

So I bought a q revo and dreame l10s and compared them directly and ended up keeping the l10s because it seems to do a better job of mopping (and is willing to mop in skinnier areas of my hard floor around rugs). I don't mind the worse app with dreame, it's completely usable and reliable, just with weird translations. I genuinely like the roborock carpets first feature but I don't miss it with scheduling. If you can afford the l40 ultra, that's what I would buy for the best features (hot water mop washing, self cleaning washboard, water turbidity sensor, mop extend & lifting brush, hair cutting roller). How much more expensive are the premier q revo models in your area (the master, slim, edge, curv)? If theyre the same price (or you can afford the slight increase) I'd get those for the best of both worlds: premier features and the superior roborock app.

Are you using the cheapish looking red main roller brush? I had the same problem with my L40 Ultra on my low carpet. After switching to the crappy red roller brush, it picks up all the hair, just need to chuck it in the bin every 2 weeks due to wife's hair tangling it all up, replace with another new one for £2, good as new

Considering your house is mostly hard floors, the s1 pro is a good choice however it struggles if you have carpet. If you have a mix of carpet and hard floors, I recommend the Dreame X40/L40 as it has significantly better carpet performance and edge cleaning due to the extending side brush. While the S1 pro has very impressive mopping, running a spinning mop style robot on a schedule will keep your floors as clean but one large benefit of the roller mops design in the S1 pro is that it is less likely to trap debris and scratch your floors.

Dreame l10S or l20 if you are trying to save money Dreame x30 if you have a little more money to spend Dreame X40/L40 if you want the best. If you only have hardfloors, the Eufy S1 pro I also like the QRevo Slim if you want something from Roborock but I am disappointed with its Object avoidance capabilities when compared to Dreame and Eufy. Roborock in general is quite trash at obstacle avoidance and it makes it hard for me to trust their vacuums to run on a schedule without having to babysit them but their hardware is solid and reliable. Skip the Eufy x10 that so many shills like. It's got a lot of features that look good but in reality they aren't very well implemented. I had two of them and Eufy partially refunded me for both of them due to my experience with them. Good customer support, but a bad vacuum design that struggles to pick up anything on hardfloors. For the same money I would get a Dreame l10S or L20 instead. I posted my full review here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/AVD9Ph2eHK

Dreame X40/L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. The P10 usually goes on sale for $679 and it's like 90% the same as the x40 which goes on sale for around $800-900. The p10 has a slightly smaller battery and is missing the ability to leave the mop pads at the dock. The X40/L40 and P10 are probably the best overall robot vacuums on the market right now with the best object avoidance, equivalent carpet and hard floor performance to Roborock and equivalent app features. These robots also have extending side brushes which do a great job getting into corners and areas where the robot can't normally reach. The tricut brush which you can purchase and install does a excellent job preventing hair wrap but I have found it is significantly less effective on hard floors. The included roller brush does a good job on carpet and hard floors. The excellent obstacle avoidance enables you to schedule your robot to run daily without having to prep your house, it just avoids cords, socks and other common obstacles significantly better than Roborock's most expensive offerings. No one makes a perfect robot vacuum right now, all have some compromises, for example the x40 side brush currently cannot spin on carpet (they are fixing it in a software update) and it's Cliff sensors are very sensitive so Dreame vacuums have more trouble with dark/black carpets or mats. Roborock makes vacuums with excellent cleaning performance but atrocious obstacle avoidance so they rarely can finish a cleaning run unless you prep your house. Eufy brings a lot of features to the table for the money but seriously struggles with vacuum pickup performance. If you wait for the middle of this year, there will be alot of impressive offerings like the Dreame x50, and Roborock Saros series and maybe even Eufy will fix their issues with the x10 and bring out a new flagship killer that actually has good vacuum performance.

YES. It is most definitely that bad. It’s bad on hard floors but god forbid you run it on a carpet. I have a video of it just plowing through fake dog poop on carpets. Edit: I have owned both the roomba j series and dreame l series, and both are so so much better.

I tested the roomba j series and the l series from dreame and both perfectly did the test

I tested the roomba j series and the l series from dreame and both perfectly did the test

Because both my Dreame L series and Roomba J series did the same test flawlessly

For crevices, you need a robot with a bristle main brush. Dreame L series and Mova usually use rubber brushes, which, according to reviewers on YT, don't pick up dust in crevices well unlike bristle ones. Some Roborock model like Q5 Pro, Q8 Max, Qrevo S, and QV35A/S also uses a similar brush. I think if you don't mind with prices, E28 or E25 is a good candidate because its roller mop is superior. Roborock also has a new lineup called S5A which is the cheaper version of Qrevo Edge. Now it's $899 on Amazon. S5A uses a similar Duo Divide split brush as in Qrevo Edge and Eufy E28, a self-empty station, and obstacle avoidance but only using structured light without a live camera.

The Dreame robot mop system is our favorite new roommate! We have a new and an older iRobot Roomba vacuums and recently got this one for the main floor. We're very happy with it. It's available in many different price ranges.