Dreame - L40S Ultra

Yeah, my observations are identical. We recently started looking at robot vacuums, after we returned our Eufy X10 Pro Omni, and it seemed as if every single model has issues, yes, plural :D We ended up getting the Dreame L40s Pro Ultra and albeit it's doing a pretty good job, it suffers from the issue where it randomly drops its mop pads and I have to re-attach them manually. We worked around this by having the robot not leave them at the station while vacuuming. Oh well.

I had the X10 Pro Omni and it was great, but it’s software went downhill after a certain version and the robot became pretty much unusable. I ended up swapping it for a Dreame L40s Pro Ultra and never looked back. Granted, the Dreame was €200 more, but it’s money well spent.

Our L40s Pro Ultra suffers from the "mop pads random detachment issue". Otherwise, it's a pretty solid choice. Do your research before getting it, though, as you may have to deal with returns / replacements. Contrary to what most people are saying, dealing with Dreame's support has been great - fast and adequate responses.

Yup, I feel you. L40s Pro Ultra is a great value for money and the mop pads issue is the only one I’ve encountered so far.

https://preview.redd.it/4j6v2r2fwobf1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90ddd22004c63de163edef0a17211a5aa7fd7397 I’ll let you be the judge😄Currently chatting with Dreame to have it replaced.

If you don’t care about possible returns / exchanges, go for it. I just find it super annoying to have to send back both the robot and the station, even if only one of them is problematic, but oh well…

We got a Dreame L40s Pro Ultra for 749 EUR and it's been awesome. I was also looking at the Mova V50 (Pro / Ultra / Whatever), but it was about 200 EUR more, so I decided against it. Roborock Saros 10r also seems to get good reviews, but it too is on the more expensive side. P.S. We used to have the Eufy X10 Pro Omni, but their firmware turned out to be complete garbage and we returned it for a full refund.

If you are willing to spend, get the Mova V50 Pro Ultra Complete. If not - the Dreame L40s Pro Ultra (brilliant value for money, got ours for about €750).

Get the L40. I explain why here [https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1lr2zgt](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1lr2zgt)

I prefer the other two models in that price band, but the L40 is still a great machine and its a fantastic price.

# [Under $300](https://amzn.to/48R0G4J) Generally speaking, I think its rare you find a great robot at this price, and I've discussed why there's some sense in [not spending the money on real discount robots](https://www.whatrobotvacuumshouldiget.com/2025/06/20/are-budget-robot-vacuums-worth-buying/). Still... there are a few gems worth looking at, as more expensive models drop under this threshold. If you've got a smaller place, or a place with many floor objects, try a Switchbot. Because they're so small, they can get between chair legs and make a small radius around things. Switchbot just doesn't get enough attention, IMO. Lots of people purchased the K10+ Pro on my recommendation during Prime Day and have posted about how happy they are. The 11 made the tower smaller and improved some other specs, but is mostly the same model. The perfect apartment, studio, or office vac. Performs spectacularly well as a vacuum, particularly given the price and stats, but it is ONLY a vacuum. If you're more concerned about a mop, get the 3i. (its great at both, to be clear, but it has the best mop of the bunch). I really like the 3i brand, they're not new, they've been making robots for other companies for years. The G10 is stripped down from premium models, but it had the same sweeper>roller design that is so effective on the higher end models. If you're looking for a carpet forward model, Eureka is the only legacy vacuum brand that successfully transitioned to robots that work. While no brand has great customer service anymore, there's a benefit to Eureka being US based. No waiting 24 hours for a response. |**Model**|**Original Price**|**BDD Price**|**Discount**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[SwitchBot Robot Vacuum K11+](https://amzn.to/4mOxq1O)|399.99|224.99|44%| |[3i G10+](https://amzn.to/48znS7N)|$449.99|$269.99|40%| |[Eureka E20 Plus](https://amzn.to/4mOwQBd)|449.99|299.99|33%| # [Under $500](https://amzn.to/4o4MPMA) Were seeing some amazing deals in this price band. That L40 Ultra has dropped from the original price of $1499 to under $500. So many people have been grabbing this model since Prime Day and most of them report being quite happy. While it wouldn't have been my favorite at a higher price, at this price, you're getting a premium model at an absurd sale price. I absolutely love the 3i current line up. The vacuum and mop are both fantastic and the app-easy. This is basically my top pick (3i S10 Ultra) minus the dehumidifier. The P10 still has the great sweep/roller design and gets up debris no other brand can without getting clogged. Get this one if you're concerned about larger debris. The Eureka is better than it should be. I loved the sweeper design, it moved debris off hard floors and carpet very effectively and would be my pick for carpet. Rarely got stuck on anything or reported errors, and it was just really reliable. I recommended this model during Prime Day, and got a lot of good feedback from folks who picked it up. |**Model**|**Original Price**|**BDD Price**|**Discount**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[Dreame L40 Ultra](https://amzn.to/48Rswhk)|$799.99|$469.99|41%   | |[Eureka J15 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4gUYACY)|699.99|489.99|30%| |[3i P10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4h1Sy3y)|$1,099.99|$469.99|55%| # [Under $750](https://amzn.to/4nypaUV) Roborock has won my loyalty over the past few years by producing consistently reliable robots, and the S5A is no different. A variant of the Qrevo line, with spinning mop heads that extend. While Roborock may produce an absurd number of models, and the S5A is no exception, they are reliable for an exceptional app experience, with intuitive setting locations, great support and good hardware with easy to find replacement parts. The L40S is the best of both worlds. A premium vac, at a not premium price for now. This is the model with the best balance on this list, of vacuum and mop. It improves over the L40 in the previous band with better nav and suction. Finally, if you want to emphasize mopping, Narwal does it really well. My two issues w this model are that it uses a ridiculous amount of water and there's a giant button on top of the machine your pet or kid will want to bop. If you don't mind refilling a lot, and you dig into the settings to lock the button (or don't have kids/pets) this is ideal. |**Model**|**Original Price**|**BDD Price**|**Discount**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[Narwal Freo Z Ultra (White Version)](https://amzn.to/46IEhUI)|$1,499.99|$550.00|63%| |[Roborock Qrevo Edge S5A](https://amzn.to/46ZYXI5)|$999.99|$649.99|35%| |[Dreame L40s Ultra](https://amzn.to/4o5ARCv)|$1,099.99|$749.99|32%| # [Under $900 ](https://amzn.to/4oad9oS) From the day it was released, I thought the Curv was a steal, most of the premium features of the S8 line, at a better price with improvements to the sweeps, extending out beyond the robot. The CurvX improves on the Curv with higher Pa and better nav. I do think its a better vacuum than mop. The X9 is a better mop than vacuum. but other than getting clogged here and there, was generally a good vacuum, and this is a reasonable price for it. Eureka is the best surprise this year. The J15 line is consistent and reliably performing. I love the sweeps, its a very effective mop and carpet cleaner and offers US based support. |**Model**|**Original Price**|**BDD Price**|**Discount**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[Ecovacs x9 Pro Omni](https://amzn.to/46CySzK)|$1,599.00|$899.00|44%| |[Eureka J15 Max Ultra](https://amzn.to/46UkK3x)|1199.99|$899.00|25%| |[Roborock Qrevo CurvX](https://amzn.to/48PvS4j)|$1,499.99|$899.99|40%| # [Over $900 ](https://amzn.to/48OKBMY) In this band are my top two recommendations. Let's start with my favorite robot of all time (a BIG statement). 3i has been making robots for other brands for a while, but the 3i is their first flagship. The S10 Ultra blew me away and became the only robot I've ever kept after testing. It will vacuum anything, without getting stuck or clogged. I mean, giant pieces of mulch. No problem. It cleans water on its own and generates more from the air, so it truly is set it and forget it. Totally autonomous. I've been yapping about it for months, and of everyone who bought it during Prime Day, I'd say people were split, 60/40. Most loved it, but some complained of a musty smell, which makes sense, since the unit is basically a dehumidifier (that's how it generates water). I've had mine for 6 months and don't notice a smell in a very wet state (Oregon), but it seems like something worth noting. So let's talk about the Flow. I tested the Dreame and Narwal roller mops, (and previously, the Eufy roller mops). Everyone is obsessed with roller mops, but the Flow is the first one I recommend. The flow improves on the Freo Z and X by not needing to be refilled constantly, and the vacuum improves over all other Narwal models. I still don't think roller mops are the end all/be all, so I wouldn't recommend dropping $1500 of this model, but I do think the Flow is worth buying at this sale price. |**Model**|**Original Price**|**BDD Price**|**Discount**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[3i S10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4o7hKIe)|$1,899.99|$1,099.99|42%| |[Narwal Flow](https://amzn.to/3IxMoLX)|$1,499.99|$1,099.99|27%| If you're looking for ALL the models on sale for Big Deal Days, they're [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nvsulx/every_robovac_on_sale_for_amazon_big_deal_days/) or s[ee all sales models at once](https://amzn.to/4nt1sJH). For some context, I [write about robovacs](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1l48fms/i_write_about_robot_vacuums_for_a_living_ama/) both for an online pub and my own site, and we get access to prices beforehand, so long as we don't share them before brands ask us (embargo). I shared similar information and advice for [Prime Day](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1ljl8wd/prime_day_deals/), and people were generally pretty [happy](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1m0sjou/amanda_amanda_amanda_the_dreame_l40_is_amazing/) w the recommendations from the feedback. Feel free to ask questions. I'll also produce a list of recommendations per price band in another thread. I'm not sure these are ALL the deals out there, but these are what's been released to me (that's off embargo). These are affiliate links, I had mod permission (I assume, still).

Thanks for the update! And the explanation on the L40S Ultra. After I realized it had bad obstacle avoidance I returned it on Amazon without opening it. Still waiting on the reviews for the Aqua 10, Z60 and Flow. On the one star reviews, I notice a lot of the Amazon reviews are bundled together for different robots. For instance the MOVA Z60 reviews are mostly MOVA V50 reviews. How is that handled?

Hey mate. I’m in Australia too and doing the same research. My shortlist for this price range is eufy x10 pro Omni at Harvey Norman for $999 or Dreame l10s pro ultra heat $1199 at Amazon. I’m currently determining if it’s worth stepping up to mova p50 pro ultra ($1750) or Dreame L40s pro ultra ($1799) as I have two messy young children and full size single story house for it to look after.

I think I have landed on the Dreame L40s pro ultra on sale at JB currently. Seems to have all the features. If you are dead set on cutting roller the mova seems a goer.

I have ADHD and cleaning is not one of my passion. I also live by myself so if I don't clean, no one will. Usually I'd clean every weekend or at least I try to lol which means no vacuuming/mopping during the week or over a week. I have 2 cats so their shedded fur, little pieces of litter and the food crumbs were always on the floor. they'll accumulate again after a day so I kinda closed one eye (or both 😂) and ignored them.... so y'all can understand why I really wanted one Coming to a messy home is frustrating and having messy living space doesn't help with my psyche. It was just so difficult to make a decision as every big brands have x variations of the same "model" and they all seem to have similar features.... and most of the official websites don't really offer customer friendly comparison tool. so honestly I didn't know what to buy. After weeks of watching review/test videos on YT, lurking on this subreddit & Vacuum Wars. I decided to get mid-range robot vacuum while there is end of financial year sale (I'm in Australia) and the only way to get over analysis paralysis is to compare directly. My initial budget was around $1200AUD so I shortlisted vacs around that price range and also included ones up to $1500ish if it was highly recommended by the reviewers (that didn't have "paid promotions"). Once I listed all the key features and specs, I highlighted the ones that stands out (top 2-3) and according to this analysis Dreame was the winner. I pondered buying L30 but really liked the extending side brush. I put it to the test as soon as I set it up, and it vacuumed and mopped almost perfectly! The floor hasn't been mopped over 3 weeks so there were some parts that were still not clean after initial vacuum&mop cycle so I ran it again for areas that still needed more rub. The floor is a section of the living room where I had the most foot traffic so I ran 2 cycles.. I really cannot complain how well it did. One thing I didn't realise was that it only has the extending brush on the right side and there's none on the left and it still vacuumed just fine. I've set up 2 daily cycles: vacuum only in the morning and vacuum+mop in the afternoon so the house would always be clean when I come home after work or when I finish wfh. I haven't tried cleaning on the carpet as I'll need to pick things up from the bedroom floor, I'll post an update when I run them in the bedrooms tomorrow or this weekend. I'm so happy that I finally bought one and it's doing a great job!

I have an l40S ultra (got it on sale for $850 on amazon), and I had to put a piece of acrylic under the base because it’s on carpet and the vacuum completely fails to dock if the dock is on carpet…

This must be something else, as I used to have this weekly for years on my 6 year old Roborock S50. Recently I got myself the Dreame L40S with the same duo brushes, and it's amazing 😍 NEVER has this problem anymore.

Yeah it sucks (no pun intended) on carpet, I have to manually hand vacuum carpets myself, luckily I only have a few. Aside from that, everything else is solid.

Just got the L40s Pro Ultra for 650€ and super happy with it.

There is the dreame L/X40 Ultra with the TriCut brush or the Roborock Edge/Curv which I think will be similar in terms of all-around vacuuming and mopping while having good anti-tangling. The Dreame will have better edge cleaning if that is what you’re after but the roborock will have a simpler ui.

I've posted a comment recommending a QRevo C for those in Australia with a strict budget of 1500 AUD and the Dreame L40S Ultra for those looking for flagship performance at a cheaper price of 1999 AUD.

I'd recommend the Roborock Qrevo C, priced at AUD 1,298 at Harvey Norman and the official Roborock website store (I've seen negative reviews of the roborock store in Australia so I'd choose Harvey Norman), which offers Product Care for up to two years. The Dreame L30 Ultra S was considered but ultimately rejected because the QRevo C offered the same functionality at a lower price. Do tap the dust out of the filter once every few cleaning cycles, and clean it once every few weeks. The removable mop tray on the QRevo makes cleaning easy. If you wanted to go above your budget, I'd recommend the Dreame L40S Ultra at 1999 AUD, as its better suited to deal with pet fur for its onboard fur compression feature which means it will use the dustbin more effectively and won't get clogged with fur, with space still present in the dustbin. It will also clean the mop pad's cleaning tray more effectively (less cleaning for you) and can clean its own filter when auto-emptying (the need to clean the filter will be reduced to about once every few weeks, as the need to tap the dust out of the filter is eliminated). It also cleans quieter, which will be helpful for any skittish pets. It can remove mops for rugs.

I’d look more at the Dreame L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra (1999/1799 respectively on JB HIFI). It’ll deal much better with fur since it has the automatic fur compression feature that works as it vacuums so it’s a better choice for homes with pets.

If it helps, the L40 Ultra is positioned as being the more budget friendly flagship as it lacks an RGB camera and only uses structured light as its obstacle avoidance sensors. I’d recommend this if your furry friend won’t poop or vomit and if your toddler won’t make a mess that robots cannot clean like food chunks. Strangely, it’s more expensive than the Dreame L40S Pro Ultra which has an RGB camera. The dreame L40S Pro Ultra has much better obstacle avoidance and object detection for smarter cleaning features like stain detection and large particle detection where it’ll slowly mop only or slowly vacuum only and not use the side brush so it won’t be kicked away. Both models are cheaper than the Roborock models with the same smart features and has good anti-tangling, at least on JB HIFI and Harvey Norman. The Curv is 2297 AUD and the near identical Edge is 2799. If you need more help, feel free to reply mate :)

I’d look more at the Dreame L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra (1999/1799 respectively on JB HIFI). It’ll deal much better with fur since it has the automatic fur compression feature that works as it vacuums so it’s a better choice for homes with pets.

If it helps, the L40 Ultra is positioned as being the more budget friendly flagship as it lacks an RGB camera and only uses structured light as its obstacle avoidance sensors. I’d recommend this if your furry friend won’t poop or vomit and if your toddler won’t make a mess that robots cannot clean like food chunks. Strangely, it’s more expensive than the Dreame L40S Pro Ultra which has an RGB camera. The dreame L40S Pro Ultra has much better obstacle avoidance and object detection for smarter cleaning features like stain detection and large particle detection where it’ll slowly mop only or slowly vacuum only and not use the side brush so it won’t be kicked away. Both models are cheaper than the Roborock models with the same smart features and has good anti-tangling, at least on JB HIFI and Harvey Norman. The Curv is 2297 AUD and the near identical Edge is 2799. If you need more help, feel free to reply mate :)

The Dreame L40S Pro Ultra will be the best priced model if you value self cleaning ability (both the filter and the mop pad tray) and anti tangling. It basically is the dreame X50 Ultra without the ProLeap system and the retracting lidar for £749 in the UK. I misread £ as € sorry :(

1. It is closest to the Dreame L50 ultra. It will be able to clean its filter when autoemptying and its mop tray self cleaning is much better. Anti-tangling is also included without needing a TriCut brush as it has the conical antitangle brushes. This model will be best for homes with heavy shedders as it will compress the fur in the dustbin as it vacuums to best utilize the space. 2. I’ve had a dreame made robot for Xiaomi and it’s been going great for 700 hours so far. Remember that online forums will have self selection bias where most will post because they need help or are upset at the product, not because they are happy with it.

If your budget is up to 2000 AUD, I’d recommend the Dreame L40S Ultra at 1999 AUD. This is because it’s currently the easiest robot to maintain and empty and is best suited for pet fur and dust. It is a flagship robot at a not so flagship price. 1. Most robot vacuums’ filter easily get clogged by dust. I run mine twice a day in a dusty city (AQI PM2.5 is usually at the high 70s) and I need to tap the dust out of the filter of an older robot at the end of every day. However the new dreame robots (L40S ultra, L40S pro Ultra, and the X50 Ultra) in Australia cleans its own filter when it autoempties. For pet fur: The dual anti-tangle main brushes work great for pet hair and the same models can also compress the fur in the dustbin as it vacuums. I have a heavily shedding corgi and the old robot wouldn’t be able to handle his fur as it’ll be clogged with a lot of empty space on the sides of the dustbin to the point that running it twice a day would mean he wouldn’t shed enough for this to happen. However, the models with the fur compression feature will be able to push any fur to the end of the dustbin and will not be as easily clogged with empty spaces. It can also remove the mop for cleaning the carpets as the mops dragging on the carpets will reduce the carpet cleaning efficiency. For maintaining the mopping part: The AceClean dryboard (its mop pad cleaning tray) on these models is currently the best self cleaning mop tray that can clean its mops as the only maintenance required is to occasionally clean a removable palm-sized drainage filter and wipe down the flat dryboard (no nooks and crannies for dirt to hide). If your budget is 1500 AUD, I’d choose the roborock QRevo C (1298 at Harvey Norman). It has good navigation, coverage, and does well with pet hair tangling around the brushes. However, the maintenance won’t be as hands off. Luckily, the mop pad cleaning tray is completely removable for cleaning. It uses the friction between the mop pads and the nubs to clean the mop giving places for dirt to hide whereas the AceClean dryboard uses water jets to clean the mops like a dishwasher.

It has a larger capacity, an RGB camera, a retracting lidar, and the ProLeap system. Get the X50 Ultra if you have a threshold taller than 2.2cm and shorter than 5cm or you need it to enter spaces a robot can enter (it can be 9.8cm tall with the lidar retracted). If you just want the RGB camera for much better obstacle avoidance, more smart cleaning features (automatically remopping and automatically intensively vacuuming), and the ability for it take to take photos of your pet, get the L40S Pro Ultra which is 2299 AUD.

For Eufy, I'd say only the S1 Pro is really good at obstacle avoidance. Eufy's strengths are its customer service and the good mopping in this model. It could be better for vacuuming. For Narwal, I'd say only the Freo Z Ultra is really good at obstacle avoidance. Vacuuming is a weak spot for Narwal as they focus more on mopping. For Dreame, the L/X40 Ultra would be the best at obstacle avoidance, with the X30 Ultra following it. Dreame is also a good all-rounder in cleaning but lags behind Roborock. Dreame excels with edge and corner cleaning. These three brands' models should be the leaders in obstacle avoidance.

If you want it to mop, I’d recommend the L40S Pro Ultra. It does have an RGB camera but it really helps with its obstacle avoidance compared to the L40S Ultra (which seems to be limited to the UK and Australia) which has no RGB camera. It has filter self cleaning when it autoempties, anti-tangle brushes, better fur pickup on carpet, and a live fur compression feature in the dustbin if your cats shed a lot. This is a combo model if this matters to you. I think a combo model is well suited for homes with mostly hard floors as the mops can take care of the fine dust that a robot vacuum’s relatively motor can’t pick up. It is also a rather nice mopping robot and it cleans its mop pads and mop pad cleaning tray rather well too.

Sorry I meant the L40S Pro Ultra, the L40S ultra is only available in the UK and Australia. The l40 ultra is a completely different model with no filter self cleaning.

The Dreame L40s Pro Ultra (£799) will be the best budget premium robot vacuum in the UK, as it is essentially an X50 Ultra, if you don't need the threshold-crossing ability or the retracting LIDAR, while being cheaper than the X40 Ultra. Everything else will be the same. It'll have the best self-cleaning ability at the best price due to the AceClean dryboard, which cleans itself much better than the Dreame X/L40 Ultra and the self-cleaning filter in the dustbin (works best if you set it to vacuum first before mopping, as mud won't be in the filter). It's also great for homes with pets that are heavy shedders, as it also has a live fur compression feature that compresses the fur in the dustbin as it vacuums to make the best use of the dustbin's space and mitigates the issue of the dustbin being clogged yet having space on the sides, something only available on the L50 Ultra and the X50 Ultra. It'll pick up fur and hair from carpets better than the Tricut brush, as it has dual rollers. I really liked how it was able to mark my furniture as something it could get stuck on and smartly cleaned around it, instead of trying to climb my coffee table with U-legs, something my LDS-only robot couldn't do (it tried humping it instead). The best budget option will be the [Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2](https://dreamestore.co.uk/products/dreame-l10s-ultra-gen-2-robot-vacuum-and-mop-with-self-cleaning-and-auto-empty). Due to the lack of an RGB camera, the obstacle avoidance won't be as good and wouldn't be as good at self-cleaning compared to the L40s Pro Ultra. If you want it to deal well with pet hair, you'll need to purchase the Tricut brush as well. For the Xiaomi robots, the X20 Pro is a good choice, but obstacle avoidance is the same as the Dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2, and it cannot extend and swing its mop (MopSwing is on for the L10S Ultra Gen 2 in some purchasing regions) like the above choices. It is also compatible with the TriCut brush if needed.

For people who don’t need the better threshold crossing and retractable lidar, I think it’s a really good option. Shame it’s only in the UK.

I noticed the dreame L40S Pro Ultra is cheaper than the X40 Ultra but more expensive than the L40 Ultra. I’d recommend the L40S Pro Ultra.

Oh 😅 If your home has a lot of pet hair, I’d recommend it since it can deal with thicker pet hair that the TriCut brush may not be able to deal with.

I like how Jamie Andrews tests aspects that are advertised for quality of life (self cleaning the dock and using hot water) whereas vacuumwars simply rattles them off like a sales brief checklist. I can confirm Dreame does reach the advertised hot water temperature listed (I tested myself with an electric thermometer connected to the area on the washboard where the water would flow from the pipes) and it usually hovers at about 5-10°C below the advertised temperature before reaching it for a second or two. Don’t know about the new AceClean dock as I don’t have it but Dreame told me any misplacement of the temperature probes will result in measuring errors of more than 10°C.

Dreame/MOVA models with an RGB camera and Narwal camera enabled models are best at obstacle avoidance. As for hair: dreame/MOVA models with the TriCut brush will do just fine with human hair and pet fur. For longer hair, I’d look at the dreame L/X40 and newer (MOVA P10 Pro Ultra and newer) as the new side brush design is more tangle resistant compared to the previous one. If your pet sheds a lot, I’d recommend the Dreame x50 ultra as it can compress fur in its dustbin as it vacuums. Narwal’s Freo Z Ultra is a good choice for hair and fur too. It has great obstacle avoidance and will have the best smart cleaning program. There is also the LDS-only Freo Z10 which will be able to mop closer to edges and untangle any tangled hair on its side brushes These models all are combo models that mop much better than a swiffer. Upcoming models that will mop better than the previous models: MOVA Z50 Ultra and the Narwal Flow.

The Xiaomi X20+ is best suited for smaller homes (<60sqm) as it lacks an onboard water tank and will be less water efficient. The difference in obstacle avoidance between LDS-only models and robots with good obstacle avoidance firmware and an RGB camera with an LED fill light for darker environments is night and day. My LDS-only Xiaomi would always get tricked by a floor to ceiling mirror and think there’s a magical place beyond it due to the limitations of LDS. My Dreame L40S Pro Ultra (same 110° LDS sensor but with an RGB camera and fill light) was able to accurately tell that the mirror was actually a mirror wall and after cleaning that room, correctly identify it as a wall (the LDS and the RGB camera would fight while it’s cleaning the room over whether or not it’s a wall or a magical portal but it wised up when it finished cleaning that room).

How tall is the piece of transition? For a single one up to 30mm, the roborock models with the AdaptiLift chassis (the most expensive QRevo Curv/Edge and the Saros line). Anything higher up to 4.2cm, if a threshold is less than 9cm long (5.2cm if it is at least 9cm long), will need the Dreame X50 Ultra or any equivalent MOVA model (V50 Ultra). I am aware that Dreame's L/X50 Ultra and any model (such as MOVA's V50 Ultra or the rare UK-only Dreame L40s Pro Ultra) that uses dual conical brushes has a *live fur compression* feature (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOOU0uJsVdU), which helps mitigate the issue of pet fur clogging the dustbin, even though the space isn't fully utilized. I saw it in action, and I think it lives up to its claim. It also cleans its filter when auto-emptying. This should be helpful for homes with heavy shedders such as yours\~ For paw prints, I think a robot that can identify messes like this and act accordingly would be important too. Dreame and Narwal do well with this if you turn on certain functions, such as their smart cleaning mode and intelligent mess detection.

In Italy, the P50 Pro Ultra costs 899 EUR. The Dreame L40 is at 899 as well. The MOVA is clearly a no-brainer in this case, with a much better AceClean dryboard and a sleeker base station (in my opinion).

This is definitely not exclusive on the ecovacs X9 pro omni. Ecovacs is late to this feature. Models that can do this well: Dreame’s L/X40 Ultra and newer (assuming there’s an RGB camera), Narwal Freo Z Ultra; Roborock Saros series and CurvX, MOVA P10 Pro Ultra, P50 Pro Ultra, Z50 Ultra, V50 Ultra

Eufy is not mentioned because it does not have this capability. Best mopping: Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track and the MOVA Z50 Ultra has the best raw mopping performance. If your pets are stinky, the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track or the MOVA V50 Ultra will be my recommendation as it has the duosolution detergent tank which means it can use a special odor neutralizing solution or your regular floor cleaning solution based on your preferences set in the app. The MOVA V50 Ultra does mop better than the Dreame X50 Ultra because it can spin its mops up to 260rpm when it detects dried on stains and liquids and because it has a new mop pad holder that basically has suspension as it can go up 2mm and down 1mm downwards and tilt up to 5° to put as even pressure as possible on uneven floors. Honorable mention: Narwal Freo Z Ultra. Shame it cannot lift its side brushes. Variable mopping pressure of 8-12N but pales in comparison to the 18N of mopping pressure by the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track and the MOVA Z50 Ultra. Best software for detecting liquids and appropriately dealing with them: Dreame L/X40 and newer including the Aqua 10 pro track based on reviews. The MOVA Z50 ultra and the other MOVA models mentioned are also pretty good too at detecting liquids. Previously mentioned Roborock and Narwal models also seem to do well. I think all the models I mentioned should be on par for automatic remopping. Hardware: All models I mentioned should have a solid build quality.

It depends on tall your thresholds are: For single thresholds: Up to 2cm: most modern robots can cross with no difficulty Up to 2.2cm: Dreame L/X40 Ultra. The dreame models with the EasyLeap wheels (L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and the L50 Ultra) can cross the first threshold up to 2.2cm and a secondary threshold right after up to 1.8cm Up to 3cm: roborock models with the AdaptLift chassis. It can cross a single threshold up to 3cm and a secondary threshold right after up to 1cm. Up to 3.5cm: the MOVA P60 Pro Ultra (mainland china only for now) has active suspension like the roborock Adaptlift chassis and the EasyLeap edge climbing wheels to climb a single threshold up to 3.5cm and a secondary threshold up to 3.5cm. Up to 4.2cm: Dreame X50 Ultra, Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track, and the MOVA V50 Ultra all can cross a single threshold up to 4.2cm if the threshold is shorter than 9-10cm (5.2cm if the threshold is sufficiently long enough) and a secondary threshold up to 1.8cm.

It depends on tall your thresholds are: For single thresholds: Up to 2cm: most modern robots can cross with no difficulty Up to 2.2cm: Dreame L/X40 Ultra. The dreame models with the EasyLeap wheels (L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and the L50 Ultra) can cross the first threshold up to 2.2cm and a secondary threshold right after up to 1.8cm Up to 3cm: roborock models with the AdaptLift chassis. It can cross a single threshold up to 3cm and a secondary threshold right after up to 1cm. Up to 3.5cm: the MOVA P60 Pro Ultra (mainland china only for now) has active suspension like the roborock Adaptlift chassis and the EasyLeap edge climbing wheels to climb a single threshold up to 3.5cm and a secondary threshold up to 3.5cm. Up to 4.2cm: Dreame X50 Ultra, Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track, and the MOVA V50 Ultra all can cross a single threshold up to 4.2cm if the threshold is shorter than 9-10cm (5.2cm if the threshold is sufficiently long enough) and a secondary threshold up to 1.8cm.

Check out the valetudo project. Otherwise, there are a lot of good robots with no RGB cameras and only structured light. The dreame L40S Ultra (not the L40 Ultra) can be checked out as a structured light flagship model.

The Dreame L40S Pro Ultra is a good step up from the L40 Ultra. Better self cleaning of the filter and base station and fur management with the onboard fur compression.

For hair, the Dreame X50 Ultra will be much better as it had the automatic fur compression feature that works as it vacuums. If available, the Dreame L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and the L50 Ultra are cheaper models with this same fur compression feature and lack the ProLeap system which is fine in your home. I also found a life hack for the X50 Ultra where you can change the mop pad holders to be the ones where it has suspension (it can go up 2mm and down 1mm and tilt up to 5°) for more evenly applied pressure for uneven floors.

Dreame’s models from the L/X40 Ultra and newer can clean corners well, both vacuuming and mopping.

What’s your purchasing region (usually country)? this will dictate your available choices. If in the EU, UK, and Australia, I’d go for the L40S Ultra (not the L40 Ultra) as the brushes have been improved to pick up pet hair on carpet. This is a somewhat cost effective combo model. For a vacuum only robot, the roborock Q5 Pro+ or Max+ are popular choices. The Q8 Max+ and Pro+ are also popular and will do better with obstacles.

The dreame X50 Ultra will be the best for self cleaning. It can clean its filter of fine dust when autoemptying since the air from the autoempty station blows through the filter in the opposite direction of the airflow when vacuuming. If not in the US, these models will also have the same self cleaning functionality: Dreame L50 Ultra; Dreame L40S Pro Ultra; Dreame L40S Ultra; and the MOVA V50 Ultra. As far as I know, roborock model has this functionality.

The dreame X50 Ultra will be the best for self cleaning. It can clean its filter of fine dust when autoemptying since the air from the autoempty station blows through the filter in the opposite direction of the airflow when vacuuming. If not in the US, these models will also have the same self cleaning functionality: Dreame L50 Ultra; Dreame L40S Pro Ultra; Dreame L40S Ultra; and the MOVA V50 Ultra. As far as I know, roborock model has this functionality.

If your cutie patootie is likely to make messes that robots shouldn’t touch (poop, vomit), robots with a good obstacle avoidance software + RGB camera will be best suited but will generally be more expensive. Since golden retrievers shed a lot, I’d recommend the Dreame L40S Pro Ultra at 1999 since it’s basically the dreame X50 ultra if you don’t need it to cross thresholds higher than 2.2cm and need a retracting lidar. I recommend this combo model (and some other dreame/MOVA models) for fur because of the onboard fur compression feature that compresses the fur in the dustbin as it vacuums so it won’t get as clogged as easily. If you want it to mop best, the MOVA z50 ultra is a great choice at 2199 AUD with the best mopping and will be the best roller mop for hair since the comb-shaped scrapers are best suited to deal with hair tangles.

After daily vacuuming then mopping, my hardwood floors became notably softer and had a shine. I’d recommend robots with roller mops or spinning mops. For roller mop robots, I’d recommend the eufy S1 (Pro), eufy E25/E28, MOVA Z50 Ultra, and the Narwal Flow. All of these robots except for the eufy E25/E28 will have good obstacle avoidance. For spinning mop robots, I’d recommend dreame/MOVA robots with the AceClean/jetspray dryboard, the Narwal Freo line with an all in one base station, the roborock qrevo line. If obstacle avoidance is important, I’d consider the Dreame L40S Pro Ultra, L/X50 Ultra and the Narwal Z/Z10 Ultra.

Both the Narwal Freo Z Ultra and the Dreame L/X40 Ultra do well avoiding cables and pet messes. Only difference is that the Dreame has to backtrack a bit for the computer to process the distance and whatnot since it only has one RGB camera but the Narwal Freo Z Ultra doesn't need to do this as it has binocular RGB cameras.

You’d definitely want your robot to clean frequently. I run mine twice a day. Dreame L40S Pro Ultra is 1799 at JB HIFI and will clean just as well if there are no thresholds up to 2.4cm. QRevo edge will be better for higher thresholds up to 3cm. However, the MOVA z50 ultra will mop much better than both models.

The dreame L/X40 are good all around combo models. The eufy models are better suited for mopping.

The X40 and L40 are essentially the same. I think the lower rating for the X40’s navigation is due to older firmware and the L40’s firmware is more polished. Just choose whichever model is cheaper. My TriCut brush works as advertised, no hair or fur tangles around it. The S8MaxV’s rollers are more prone to getting fur stuck on the sides and their navigation and obstacle avoidance isn’t as good as Dreame’s.

If pet poop and wires aren’t an issue, the MOVA P50 Ultra at 1999 AUD will be the best value buy. It’s basically the MOVA P50 Pro Ultra without an RGB camera. The Dreame L40S Ultra is also at the same price and will be better for pet fur as it can compress the fur in the dust bin as it vacuums and comes with a detangling brush whereas the P50 needs a TriCut brush to be anti-tangling.

For spinning mops: Station Self cleaning: Dreame X50 Ultra > roborock Curv/Edge Saros 10R > Dreame L/X40 Ultra >≈ Ecovacs models with wipers in mop pad cleaning tray marketed as the 150 day cleaning free tray > roborock qrevo > all other dreame and ecovacs robots

If threshold crossing and cleaning under furniture with a low clearance isn't necessary, I'd look at the Dreame L40S Pro Ultra at 749 pounds. It's basically the X50 Ultra without the proleap system and the retracting lidar.

The best self cleaning models can also clean the base station’s mop washboard and the vacuum’s filter. I’d recommend these ones which can do this: Currently the best at self cleaning: the MOVA V50 Ultra can dry it’s dustbin and dustbag to prevent mildew unlike the other choices which brings it above the other robots Almost there: Dreame L/X50 Ultra, L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra In the middle: MOVA P50 Pro Ultra Pretty okay at self cleaning: MOVA P10 Pro Ultra, Dreame L/X40, roborock models with the motorized scrapers, Narwal models with an all in one base station.

The best self cleaning models can also clean the base station’s mop washboard and the vacuum’s filter. I’d recommend these ones which can do this: Currently the best at self cleaning: the MOVA V50 Ultra can dry it’s dustbin and dustbag to prevent mildew unlike the other choices which brings it above the other robots Almost there: Dreame L/X50 Ultra, L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra In the middle: MOVA P50 Pro Ultra Pretty okay at self cleaning: MOVA P10 Pro Ultra, Dreame L/X40, roborock models with the motorized scrapers, Narwal models with an all in one base station.

For combo models, dustbin sizes are generally smaller but Dreame’s L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra, and the X50 Ultra’s dustbin is relatively bigger than most at 395ml. It also has a live fur compression feature that will work as the robot vacuums (happens after the first 20sqm is cleaned and once every 40sqm after that) to best use dustbin space. If your groodle doesn’t make any messes that can’t be cleaned like poop/pee/vomit, and obstacles like cables aren’t an issue, the L40S Ultra is a good choice at 1499 AUD. If that is an issue, the L40S Pro Ultra is a good choice at 1799 AUD (only difference is that there’s an RGB camera to help detect these messes). If there are thresholds up to 3cm, Roborock’s Curv/Edge/Saros robots with the AdaptLift feature will be well suited too. If thresholds up to 4-5cm are an issue, the X50 ultra is a good choice.

That’s the only trade off. The L40S Pro Ultra will do well with hair on carpets though.

Dreame’s L40S Pro Ultra will have the best self cleaning as it cleans the filter (your filter won’t be as clogged with dust as easy) and the mop pad cleaning tray the best.

All robots you've mentioned will do fine with sand. For obstacle avoidance, Dreame's l/x40 ultra > Roborock saros > Ecovacs X8. I think the Dreame l/x40 ultra is 440 and 540 in the US now.

\+1 for the Dreame L40s Pro Ultra. Dreame is very good at obstacle avoidance, hair detangling ability is very good on this model, dreame's corner cleaning algorithm is the most aggressive on the market (others like roborock and ecovacs are really sheepish when it comes to extending the side brush), and is really low maintenance (the autoemptying cleans the filter and the mop washboard is the lowest maintenance so far). This was the model I would have suggested as well. I'd recommend checking if visiting Dreame stores in Frankfurt and Munich is possible, as Dreame physical stores tend to offer freebies and better deals. As for mopping, robot vacuum mop combos generally do not apply a significant amount of water when it mops. You can also control the mop's wetness level if you're concerned about excessive water usage. I find that with daily vacuuming first to remove any debris that could scratch the floor, then making it mop (using the vacuum first before mopping setting so the spinning mops won't drag any debris which will scratch your floors), made my wood floor have a nice sheen and noticeably felt softer, and the tiles were always barefoot friendly.

MOVA's Z50 Ultra is even better than the Eufy S1 Pro at mopping and performs decently with hair as it has a 300mL dustbin and the Dreame Tricut brush, which has worked well in my home with long hair and a long-haired corgi. I'd get this from Harvey Norman (with a protection plan for easy returns/replacement). JB HIFI seems to be harder with returns as users report JB HIFI needing to confirm with the manufacturer. Unfortunately, the good EOFY sale price of about 2000 AUD is now gone and it now sells at 3000 (ouch..), and no official plumbing kit is sold in Australia (get it from aliexpress or Taobao). If there's no threshold taller than 2.2 cm in your home, I'd check out the L40s Pro Ultra, which is essentially the Dreame X50 Ultra without the enhanced threshold crossing and retractable LIDAR. However, the battery life on the X50 Ultra and the L40s Pro Ultra isn't that good compared to the older Dreame models and the MOVA Z50 Ultra... As for food, I'm afraid no robot can sufficiently take care of this without making a mess you have to clean up. But good ones should identify food that isn't crumbs and avoid it, and tell you so in the app. The Narwal Freo Z Ultra will have the best smart cleaning mode and arguably the best robot mopper with spinning mops, but is rather water inefficient for larger homes, so connecting it to your plumbing is basically a must.

Sadly, I couldn't find the MOVA z50 Ultra on Amazon, and it seems the only other sales date will be during Black Friday in November :( If you're really insistent on the MOVA Z50 Ultra, I'll ask MOVA about any possible discounts. For the other robots: The Narwal Freo Z Ultra will feature the best smart cleaning mode, allowing for hands-off cleaning without requiring in-depth settings adjustments, thanks to its significantly improved computer vision compared to the Roborock S10R. However, roborock's Saros 10R app is easier to use and there are less disposables than the Narwal Freo Z Ultra's dustbin has a disposable plastic thing, which narwal says means its easier reducing the need to clean, but I think this just makes more waste and is unnecessary if you can give the dusbin a good clean. Go for the Roborock saros 10R for a good app and roborock reliability. Go for the Narwal Freo Z Ultra if you really want AI cleaning that's more than just a shoehorned buzzword.

Thanks for sharing! I hypothesize that the X50 Ultra's poor battery life is likely due to the more power-hungry computer chip it utilizes. My own experience with the L40s Pro Ultra (mainland Chinese version) had a *worse battery life* that struggled to finish cleaning my home whereas my much cheaper combo Xiaomi robot (also mainland Chinese version) that has the same battery capacity and is also made by Dreame would be able to vacuum first and then mop my small apartment and finish with 50%. Other reviewers have reported that the L40s Pro Ultra (non-mainland Chinese edition) had a bad battery life, just like me :( Hopefully, this issue will be fixed soon. I hope the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track doesn't suffer the same battery life issue, especially because it'll need a more powerful chip to process all the information coming from the HD binocular RGB cameras and the dot projector, and a power-efficient water heater in the robot to heat the water up.

For a smart combo: Dreame’s L40S Pro Ultra won’t have great battery life (a reviewer found a rate of 3% per square meter) as it uses the same power hungry computer chip as the X50 ultra but the self cleaning capabilities it has (cleaning the dustbin’s filter which most other robots can’t do, and a much better self cleaning mop washboard) with the fur compression feature it has when it vacuums which is great for heavy shedders means it’s worth the tradeoff. If you want better battery life with the same features, the L50 Pro Ultra has a 6400 mah battery like the X50 Ultra. The obstacle avoidance on these two models and the X50 should be the same as the X40 ultra now since it’s pretty mature. For a budget choice, I’d look at Xiaomi’s X20 Pro or the X20 Max. They won’t have as good obstacle avoidance as it only uses structured light but the prices (£399 and £499 respectively) can’t be beat for its quality.

I have a Xiaomi robot made by dreame that uses the same dustbin as the X40 ultra. This is how much fur it gets every morning. https://preview.redd.it/9edw1042217f1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=923a84c91ae678589d54fe338015c0071d0835ed I’d recommend buying the Z50 Ultra from JB HIFI or Harvey Norman and trying the twice a day routine for a week and see if the fur in the dustbin levels out. I think the suction level above normal suction should be fine. If the robot can’t handle it, I’d change to the X50 ultra or the L40S Pro Ultra.

If the threshold crossing and retracting lidar doesn’t matter, the L40S Pro Ultra is cheaper at 1799 with a slightly smaller battery at 5200 mah.

If I were you, I’d spend a bit more for a combo and look for a reliable and good vacuum only model for the top carpet only floor which is generally cheaper than a combo model. I’d also consider the dreame L40S Pro Ultra (£799) is going to be better for heavy fur shedders since it has the onboard fur compression feature which works when it’s vacuuming to best utilize the dustbin’s space that has a volume of 395mL. The dual brushes mean it’s better for fur pickup on carpets but won’t be as good for just vacuuming carpets compared to vacuum only models . The E25 will be better for raw mopping performance which is better suited for homes with more hard floors than carpet. The E25 will also be a good option for the bottom floor. I’d get something like a cheap second hand roomba or a roborock Q5 or Q8 with or without an autoempty station for the upper floor.

Both of these models only use structured light so they cannot “see” any spills. Only the L40S Pro Ultra can.

In Australia, only the L30 Ultra S, the L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and the X50 Ultra are the new available models. There’s no L50 yet.

If you have pets or long hair, want a robot that cleans itself better, and have greasy kitchen floors, the L40S Ultra will be a better choice. The L30 Ultra S is a good choice for more carpeted floors since you can use the rubber brush.

If you want better wet cleaning, I’d choose the MOVA Z50 Ultra over the Ecovacs T80 Omni. If not, the L40S Pro Ultra (the one with the RGB camera, the L40S Ultra has no RGB camera) will have better obstacle avoidance, navigation, better self cleaning, and a better app.

Yep the L40S Pro Ultra would be a much better choice :)

All rounders: Dreame L/X40 Ultra or the upcoming X50 ultra if you want it to have the AceClean dryboard which cleans the mops much better than the previous mop washboard on the L/X40 Ultra. MOVA P50 Pro Ultra which also has the AceClean dryboard (only in the EU), MOVA P10 Pro Ultra that is essentially the L40 Ultra without mop removal (seems to be limited to NA markets). For these dreame and MOVA models, use the anti-tangling TriCut brush. It either comes with it or you’ll have to get it from Taobao or AliExpress. Mopping experts: Narwal Freo Z Ultra for the best smart cleaning mode and best computer vision and obstacle avoidance, or the Freo x ultra if you’re fine without the computer vision and smart cleaning. Vacuuming is a bit weak. Upcoming: MOVA Z50 Ultra and Narwal Flow (both track type roller mops), Narwal Freo Z10 (spinning mops that can extend and swing extended mops like dreame) Eufy S1 Pro mops great but vacuuming could be better. Can’t edge or corner clean. Roborock’s side brush and mop extension algorithm could be improved in comparison to Dreame’s side brush and mop extension and NarWal’s mop extension. It can’t swing the extended mop to reach under places like your fridge. Obstacle avoidance is sadly lagging behind. But there is the Saros 10R.

I understand the confusion! I also mix up the models in my head too. The L40S Pro Ultra is a X50 ultra in disguise. It just lacks the ProLeap threshold crossing system (fine for homes with no thresholds or thresholds up to 24mm), the retracting lidar for lower clearance, and a smaller battery at 5200mAh.

Sorry for the pricing differences by purchasing region. Check out the L40S Pro Ultra which is a X50 in disguise.

Generally for maintenance you’d need to tap the dust out of the dustbin filter once every few cleaning runs (you need to do it after every run for the first few times using the robot). Youd have to give it a good rinse once every week or every two weeks and let it dry for at least 24 hours You’d also have to wipe down any dust and/or mud once every two weeks or so. Once every month, you’d need to wash the dustbin and let it dry completely for at least 24 hours. To prevent annoying to clean mud, run the robot to vacuum first then mop. The dreame L/X50, the L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and the MOVA P50S Ultra and the MOVA V50 Ultra can clean their dustbin filter when autoemptying which helps remove the need to tap the dust out of the filter. For combo models with an all in one base station. You’d also have to refill and empty the dirty water tanks (best to rinse them every time you do so) as soon as they get empty or get full and give the dirty water tank a good scrub with dish soap once in a while. Odor can be an issue. I recommend adding a silver ion module to the clean water tank and dirty water tank and a deodorization module to the dirty water tank to reduce needed maintenance and any bacterial biofilm from forming. With these modules, please rinse the dirty water tank’s modules every time you empty it. Please don’t leave the dirty water tank alone for more than 2 days as mold and gross bacteria can grow in there.

Oh wow that’s a great price then. The x50 ultra is a pretty good choice. There’s also the MOVA V50 ultra which has a basically smaller base station and can dry the dustbin and dustbag which is good at helping prevent mildew and mold growing there if your region is rather humid.

I’d save my money and go with a dreame L/X40 which retails from 440-680ish if you buy it from their physical store which does free mainland shipping in the us if you place an order via phone/email. You can change the mop pad holders to the flexipress ones which can tilt up to 5° and go up 2mm and down 1mm and use plush mop pads like the roborock Saros or Curv pads which are better for uneven surfaces like your textured tiled floors.

Will do that now 👀 My l40s pro ultra (mainland Chinese edition) was able to correctly identify the floor to ceiling mirror wall as a wall.

1. It really depends on your purchasing region. Costco is a popular choice given its generous return policy but choices are rather limited compared to buying from Amazon which has an easy return policy within 30 days. For other purchasing regions, buying from a reputable retailer with a good return policy and an optional protection plan would be good. In Australia, I heard Harvey Norman is nicer with returns compared to JB HIFI. 2. The robots with the best self cleaning will be Dreame’s L/X50 Ultra/L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and MOVA’s V50 Ultra P50S Ultra > MOVA’s P50 Ultra/ Pro Ultra > Roborock’s models that have spinning mops with the Multifunctional Dock 3.0 (roborock models with a vibrating mop have a washboard that is more difficult to clean as you can’t remove it) ≈ Narwal Freo models (completely detachable base) > Dreame’s models with the mop-driven wiper mop washboard (cleaning the wiper washboard is rather difficult since there’s too many nooks and crannies and you’d still have to get down to clean the areas the wipers can’t reach) > other combo robots with an all in one base station As for combo robots with roller mops and have an all in one base station, the washboard is generally flat with a few grooves so it’s pretty easy to clean. I believe most of their washboards are removable. However, it’ll require more cleaning in the mop compartment and dirty water tank. Most roller mop models have an annoying cylindrical component which drives the roller mop like an upright wet dry vacuum but you can’t remove or move it to give it a deeper clean even if gunk is stuck on it. The only combos that are close to the level of self cleaning for spinning mop models are Dreame’s Aqua 10 Pro track, the MOVA Z50 Ultra, and the Narwal Flow since both have self-cleaning mechanisms that are made to also clean the dirty water tank and the mop compartment while also having a very easy to clean mop compartment since the thing that moves the mops is also completely removable. If you want to support a US startup, you could look at the Matic since it’s a vacuum and mop robot but taking care of it looks rather easy since it lacks a base station. The maintenance involved is replacing the bag, refilling the water with a cleaning solution of choice, occasionally cleaning the roller mop, the roller mop filter, cleaning the brush roller and de clogging the mop tubes if needed.

The L40S Ultra only has structured light for obstacle avoidance which won’t avoid cords. For those wanting a combo robot that does well with heavily shedding pets, I generally recommend the Dreame/MOVA models for their fur compression feature. I have a long haired corgi and it works as advertised. I swear the MOVA V50 ultra was at 949 on Amazon once but I’d wait for a sale. MOVA sent me their V50 Ultra to review. Do also check out the L50 Pro ultra and the X50 Ultra.

I’d check out the dreame l40s ultra! I remember it was at 1499 and it works with the dreame plumbing kit (super cheap on AliExpress or Taobao). The antitangle dual main brushes and the fur compression does wonders if your pets shed a lot :)

Out of the three models you’ve mentioned only the X50 ultra is a very current robot with the other two being lady generation or older models. I’d recommend dreame robots over roborock models if you believe a robot avoiding poop and cords is very important. Since you’ve mentionea there's a lot of fur being shed, I'd recommend the Dreame X50 ultra or the cheaper L50 Ultra/L40S Pro Ultra if you don't have thresholds taller than 2.2cm in your home. These robots will deliver much more at a price similar to or lower than the other robots you’re considering. These robots have a rather sizeable dustbin at 395mL with a fur compression that works as it vacuums so it won't get as easily clogged. These robots will also be the most hands off when it comes to taking care of them. Especially because any fur caught on the mops will be collected in a removable drain filter instead of being stuck on the cleaning nubs for robots like the QRevo Max V (I have a robot that uses a mop washboard similar to the QRevo MaxV and so much fur catches onto the nubs and is a hassle to clean). The dreame models I’ve mentioned have a very easy to clean mop washboard as there are basically no nooks and crannies for dirt and fur to hide and you’d only need to occasionally wipe it down with a wet wipe. As for drool mopping, all three will work well for this.

The dreame models from the L/X40 ultra and newer generally have better obstacle avoidance than roborock. There’s the L50 Ultra or the L40S Pro Ultra available in Norway which is cheaper and performs just as well as the X50 Ultra. The L40S Pro Ultra is at 9990 NOK and the L50 Ultra is at 11490 NOK. The L40S Pro Ultra will do much better with fur and avoiding poop than the Roborock S8 MaxV Ultra which is also at the same price.

You could check out the dreame l40s ultra then. It has basically all the features of the l40s pro ultra (mop removal, extending mop and side brush, and hot water mop washing) without the RGB camera. I think it was 1499 at JB HIFI or Harvey Norman. Australian consumer law guarantees that you are entitled to a refund, repair, or replacement of your robot in case something goes wrong. As such I’ve updated my recommendations and no longer recommend buying a protection plan from a retailer :)

The dreame L40 is a de facto flagship with much better obstacle avoidance mainly because of the better software and the fact it has an RGB camera. The edge and corner cleaning is also much better. The roborock S7 max ultra only has structured light so obstacle avoidance won’t be as good.

Hi ask in r/robotvacuums for less biased responses. I found that the dreame and MOVA models with the dual conical anti tangle rollers will be best for heavy shedding pets as it has the live fur compression feature that compresses fur in the dustbin as it vacuums which means it won’t get clogged up with fur in both the brush compartment and the dustbin nearly as quickly and can use the dustbin space more effectively. Models with this feature are the dreame L40S Pro Ultra, L40S Ultra, X/L50 Ultra and the MOVA V50 Ultra.

The problem with generative AI, even with the research function, is that the information is woefully outdated and often hallucinates things that don't exist. You want these features: >Good object avoidance (chairs, socks, cables, etc.) But the models the generative AI seems to have found for you will not do well in avoiding cables and socks. This is because they all only use structured light sensors, which are not well-suited for this. Only robots with an RGB camera, an LED fill light, and good obstacle avoidance software. If you tidy those up, then the MOVA P50 Ultra at 549 euros ( [https://de.mova.tech/products/mova-p50-ultra-robot-vacuum](https://de.mova.tech/products/mova-p50-ultra-robot-vacuum) ) is a good choice. Actual obstacle avoidance comes with a higher price tag in more expensive models like the Dreame L40 Ultra AE at 609 euros (German Dreame website). >**Goal**: **Maximum automation** – no daily involvement (vacuuming, mopping, cleaning the mop, drying, edge cleaning) Robot at this price range will need more attention than those with better self cleaning features, such as tapping the dust out of the filter out once every few cleaning runs (recommended to do once after every cleaning run when first using it) rinsing the dustbin and filter and wiping the robot clean once every two weeks or so, refilling and emptying the dirty water tanks, cleaning the mop washboard as needed. The Dreame L40 Ultra AE at 609 euros will have some sort of mop washboard self-cleaning, but it is rather annoying to clean with too many nooks and crannies for my liking, and the wipers like to drag hair around the washboard. If you tidy the cables and socks up, the MOVA P50 Ultra will have the best self-cleaning mop washboard since there are barely any nooks and crannies, and you can get the robot to clean its own washboard by pressing a button in the app. You'd still need to tap the dust out of the filter after every few cleaning runs, occasionally wipe the washboard down and the area under the filter, and rinse the palm-sized removable filter, which stops hair and large debris from entering. If you want the robot to clean its filter when auto-emptying, the Dreame L40s Pro Ultra is the cheapest model I've found that can do this. But it's at 769 ( [https://de.dreametech.com/products/dreame-l40s-pro-ultra-schwarz-saugroboter](https://de.dreametech.com/products/dreame-l40s-pro-ultra-schwarz-saugroboter) ) Maintenance tips: 1. Run the robot to vacuum first, then mop to mitigate difficult-to-clean mud buildup in the dustbin, filter, and brush compartment. It'll have less gross stuff in the brush compartment when you clean it. 2. The dirty water tank can stink, but the Dreame or Roborock dirty water deodorization module helps a lot in keeping the tank from smelling in between emptying. Do rinse and clean the dirty water tank with dish soap once every two weeks or so. Do rinse the deodorization modules and the dirty water tank when emptying the dirty water tank. Dreame one supposedly lasts longer, at 6 months, and the roborock lasts about 3 months. I also added a silver ion module to both clean and dirty water tanks to avoid any bacterial biofilm buildup. 3. If getting a model that can't clean its own filter, I put in cut-out pieces of air conditioner pre-filter sheets that fit just on the filter, which barely impede airflow for the vacuum. This will act as a robot prefilter and you won't need to tap the dust out of the filter as often and simply throw away the prefilter sheet and replace it with a new one.

The dreame X50 ultra, L50 Ultra (not the L50 Pro ultra), MOVA V50 ultra, and the MOVA P50S Ultra (not the P50 Pro ultra) should definitely cross this with no issues. Most dreame/MOVA robots, even without special threshold crossing abilities, have pretty good threshold crossing abilities. You could also look at the Dreame L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra or the L50 Pro Ultra with the EasyLeap additional pair of wheels that are made to climb thresholds like this (they’re shaped like a windmill or shuriken to better grip onto ledges). The roborock models with the Adaptlift feature should be able to cross this just fine. Other robots can cross a threshold of 2cm with no issues but that assumes the thresholds are smooth with no grooves. No clue about them crossing this kind of threshold though.

Good at obstacle avoidance, better suited at vacuuming but is a cost effective choice when under 600 usd

Narwal Freo x or z ultra ? 1199 and 1899 AUD. The Narwal Freo Z10 that can extend its mops are at 2499. Other robots like ones from dreame and MOVA can do this for much cheaper. I remember someone was able to haggle their L40S Pro ultra to 1499.

The l40s pro ultra can extend its mop and swing them to clean closer to corners and edges and so can the Narwal Freo Z10 ultra and the Freo pro (I haven’t seen this model in au). The l40s ultra, without an RGB camera, can also do the same at 1499.

I have dreame made robots for Xiaomi and I tried the L40S Pro Ultra made for mainland china way before it was released then returned it because I didn’t want like how the onboard voice assistant couldn’t recognize what we were saying (this is for Cantonese and what they advertised would work well so the voice assistants for other languages may be better or worse). They’ve all been solidly built. The map it made was very good compared to my structured light only Xiaomi. My current Xiaomi, has been working without any flaws till now where it seems the mopping motors want to give up at 830+ hours. The vacuuming is still running like it’s brand new. It runs twice a day and I’ve only had to make a new map once every few months. As for battery life, yes I think it’s an issue. It had the same battery capacity as my Xiaomi (5200mah for the l40s pro ultra and the Xiaomi) yet needed more charging breaks when running the vacuuming first before mopping mode (my Xiaomi never needed a single charging break) probably because I ran it on CleanGenius on the deep+ cleaning mode. If you work from home and aren’t expecting guests to come quickly, I think letting it do its thing is best. The x50 has a 6400mah battery which may be better for battery life The self cleaning at the filter and the mop washboard were a huge upgrade though. My Xiaomi’s filter (same as the x40 ultra) would be pretty clogged with fine dust and lil dust bunnies that would make it right into the pleats and could never be cleared with autoemptying so I would have to tap the dust out at the end of every day. The dreame l40s pro ultra did much better taking care of this.

Since there are no thresholds, the L50 pro ultra is also worth it. I used to refer to the L50 Pro Ultra as the l50 ultra for my convenience but I forgot about the L50 ultra which is better for homes with thresholds. Both L50 models have the same battery capacity (6400mAh) as the X50 ultra so the battery drain issue isn’t nearly as bad as it was on my dreame l40s pro ultra.

Dreame: L40s Ultra/Pro Ultra, L50 Pro Ultra, L50 Ultra, X50 Pro Ultra/Master, Matrix 10, Aqua 10 Roller/Ultra Roller/Pro Track/Ultra Track, and the D20 Pro Plus

In the us I believe Amazon has sales events coming soon. In the 500-600 range, there is the dreame l40 ultra and the MOVA p10 pro ultra which punches way above their weight compared to other robots in this price range. Both work with an antitangle TriCut brush (which is often given with the robot now but it doesn’t hurt to check) which worked well with my long haired corgi. Do note that the dustbin on these models are rather small and can clog up with fur quickly and even the highest autoempty frequency doesn’t seem to be enough for the super shedders. There’s the dreame l40s ultra at like 700-800 if obstacle avoidance isn’t an issue (like pet “accidents” and cables) but will do much better with fur as it has an onboard fur compression feature which allows it to eat more fur without getting as easily clogged. However at the same price range there’s the eufy s1 (if carpet vacuuming isn’t a concern) and the eufy e25 that are great contenders (just ask eufy support to send the new dirty water tank to prevent leaking, they’ve generally been pretty proactive with this) If Narwal has a sale for their Freo Z ultra I’d check those out too. It’s much cheaper in Western Europe at €549 but is at $799 in the states. Buy these from reputable retailers with a good return policy in case you get a lemon. Amazon has a good 30 day return policy. I believe dreame has physical stores in the US that ship robots for free (often at a discounted price with free accessories) in the mainland US and there’s someone at the store to call if something goes wrong. I’d check Costco out too. They should also have good units and I think the price premium is worth the peace of mind since you can easily return if there’s a dud.

Main difference is that the L40S Ultra CE lacks an RGB camera which isn’t helpful for obstacle avoidance and no hot water mop washing. I see the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra at 599 though. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DGR1VDTB/

They’ll all do fine with long hair. If you mean the L40S Pro Ultra it’ll be the most cost effective choice :)

It’s rather hard for most robots to avoid something like a piece of LEGO. I’d get the dreame L40s pro ultra as it has the fur compression feature which has worked great in allowing the robot to maximize the use of its dustbin u stead of having it clog in the middle but have empty space on the sides in my home that has a heavily shedding corgi.

The L40S pro ultra is better suited as it has a larger dustbin at 395ml, the Z50’s dustbin is at 300ml and quieter antitangle duorollers :) The Z50 is a great mopper but issues like docking make me hesitant to recommend it.

For vacuuming only: the Dyson VisNav if it’s at like 400-600 pounds. For vacuuming and mopping, you have *a lot* of options. I’d recommend something with a big dustbin that doesn’t clog with fur like the dreame L40S Pro Ultra which has a fur compression feature which helps with the dustbin using as much of its space as possible (some like the dreame l/x40 and the roborock qrevo models clog in the middle with empty space in the sides so it’s not helpful when they can be filled with as much as 1/3rd of their advertised volume) and a dustbin at 395mL which is very big for a combo robot vacuum and mop. It’s currently at £799. However it looks like it’ll be in stock in December in the UK and it does go through it’s battery rather quickly. If you want it now I’d also checkout out the roborock Saros 10 as it is at £899 and it uses its dustbin space effectively. AFAIK, there’s no way to make it autoempty as frequently as some would like so you’d need to set it via setting up very complicated routines that people share on r/roborock. It’s still a good choice though.

Good obstacle avoidance for things like cables will come with models that have RGB cameras and good obstacle avoidance. In your list, there’s only the Dreame L40S pro ultra, the l40s ultra AE, and the x40 ultra complete that have an RGB camera. The L40S pro ultra will do best out of those three for fur as it has a larger dustbin and the fur compression feature and doesn’t need the TriCut brush to do well with fur and is quieter as a result.