
Roborock
Qrevo S
Reliable, great mopping (lifts pads), but poor cable avoidance.

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Hi everyone, I’ve been following this subreddit for some time and read a lot of reviews and opinions about many robots. After doing my research, I bought the Mova V50. My current robot is the Ecovacs X8 Omni Pro. After trying the V50, I was positively surprised by the vacuum performance. The obstacle avoidance is clearly better, and it’s very quiet, especially in mopping mode. However, the mopping performance disappointed me a lot. My old (and hated) X8 can mop much better and clean deeper. Also, the total cleaning time—vacuum then mop—took almost 3 hours for an 80 m² apartment, which I think is too long. Another issue: the V50 mapped almost half of my kitchen as carpet, even though there was 30-40 cm of bare floor between the wall and the actual carpet. I’ll test my V50 for some more time and maybe exchange it for the Mova Z60 or Ecovacs X11, which has the same mopping method. I don’t know why, but I see an overall hate for Ecovacs in this subreddit. So for this reason can’t be sure with a new Ecovacs product:) But to be honest I’m questioning here for a while whether this hate is fair or not. Has anyone had a similar experience with the Mova V50? Or is it only me having these mopping and mapping issues? Thanks
We bought the ECOVACS DEEBOT X8 PRO Omni about 2 years ago, Since we use this robot we always had issues with pet hair, the bin in the robot do not empty properly and it just keep packing. If I mop+vac, the hair will get wet in the brush. I’ve changed the settings for the base and the robot and we still have the same issue. We use the robot almost daily. Our dog is a german shepherd, it’s worst during shedding season. Is there any good robot vacuum/mop for a house with a pet shedding a lot? Thank you!!
Heya, fellow RTINGS employee not-Justin here; Hmm, in regards to the models on your short list, I'd say the Ecovacs X8 Pro is a very good all-rounder: we haven't published the full review for that model (yet), but it does offer a good blend of debris pickup performance on bare floors and rugs, great navigation, and a fantastic roller mop system. That said, real-time hazard avoidance performance isn't stellar. Since you don't have pets, its mediocre hair-cleaning performance shouldn't be a massive deal. As for your other questions: 1 & 2. We've only really run one roller-mop unit through our test bench (that being the aforementioned Ecovacs DEEBOT X8 PRO OMNI), but I will say that we were extremely impressed with its stain-clearing performance. That said, it's hard for us to generalize the performance of this kind of design when we're working with such a limited sample size. After all, we've seen a lot of variability in performance for spin-mop models too: the best (Roborock Saros 10R) are very good at dealing with stains, while others, like the eufy X10 Pro Omni, really struggle. We haven't found *that* much to complain about in terms of maintenance in regards to spin mops either; most of the mid-range to high-end models we've tested have pretty effective auto-wash and dry functions though you'll still need to clean a washplate every now and then. 3. Across those price categories, the biggest differences you'll see are better obstacle detection and avoidance performance. Hardware-wise, you'll likely see structured light sensors being replaced by RGB color cameras, though that's not universal across the board. Unfortunately, actual debris pickup performance is more of a wash across different price categories. Docks can generally get a little nicer too: one of the more common features you'll see on higher-end docks is hot water jets for better mop pad cleaning, though I wouldn't say dock *reliability* increases with MSRP (not that that's something we test for).
Hey all! I'd like to formally introduce myself. My name is Justin, and I'm a Robot Vacuum tester at RTINGS. I've tested 30+ robot vacuums since my career started here, and have learned so much from research, testing, and this Subreddit specifically. Some of you might have seen me on here making some personal recommendations in some of the posts in this Subreddit, but Prime Day is a great time to provide some insight on making a decision, since the market is currently overwhelming. **These recommendations are based on products we've bought and tested ourselves**, since we do not accept review or sample units from manufacturers. **I also wanted to disclose that we do make money from affiliate links and ads on our website**, so I will not be providing any links to our reviews. **First step** is to not panic. Figure out the needs of your space, your expectations, and your budget. Write them down and try to narrow it down to maximum 2-3 options. **General expectations** for all robots based on what I've seen and my personal opinion/experience: * **They will not replace your regular vacuum and mop for deep cleaning**, but they will extend the time between your deep cleanings. * **Obstacle avoidance is not that big of a deal if you don't have kids or pets.** Tidy up loose objects on the floor, tuck away cables, and set no-go zones, and you'll usually be good to go. * **You likely don't need to run it everywhere, every day.** Consider your needs and strategize. Use manual configurations, schedules, and spot cleanings over the built-in AI systems to tailor it to your needs. * **They usually always get hair stuck somewhere, especially long hair.** I have yet to meet a robot that has not gotten hair stuck with our standard 2.5g of long hair. That being said, some are better at it than others. * **The maintenance for the mops/water tanks is very frequent**, but saves more time overall. The general maintenance is usually quick overall, though. * **Recurring costs are generally higher and more frequent than regular vacuums.** You can try third party options for brush rollers, but we usually don't test that. * **Even premium models usually have seal problems** **and do not filter as well as standard vacuums with better HEPA/S-Class Filters.** If you have allergies, most of the robots will shoot allergens back up into the air. Consider an air purifier if you really want one. (The Levoit Vital 200s is great and on sale too) * **Advertised suction is usually not helpful or representative of pickup performance**. The Roborock S7 Max V is a great example of a robot with low advertised suction (5100 Pa) that still remains competitive in hard floor pickup performance to this day. * **Be vigilant of defects, especially on new models.** Brands are pumping out models faster than we can think. In my opinions, there are bound to be quality issues. If you see something wrong, exchange it or go with an older model that has proven reliability. * **Sales will come back. Often. Black friday is right around the corner.** Don't impulse buy just cause of a big sales event. **Dreame L10s Ultra/Pro Ultra ($299 USD/$479 CAD - $399USD/$499CAD) - Best Introduction Robot for Small Spaces** with mostly hard floor. * Decent hard floor performance, fully featured dock, great obstacle avoidance, decent mopping, upgradeable for carpets with the Tri-Cut Brush. * Mid battery-life, cold water and cold air drying (pro version adds heat), have seen complaints of poor customer service from Dreame. Uncertain about long term reliability. * At this price, you really can't go wrong if you just want something to help with day to day cleaning. **Roborock Qrevo Series ($399 USD/$549 CAD)** \- **Best Budget for hard floors** * Great hard floor pickup and navigation. Mid-on carpets. Bad at removing pet hair from carpets. * Awful obstacle avoidance. Decent Mopping * Roborock seems to have a better reputation for reliability. (Based on comments in this Subreddit) **Roborock S8 Max V ($1099USD/$1199CAD)** \- **Best For Carpet and Pet Hair** * Good all around pickup, excels on carpet thanks to its dual rollers. Corner coverage. * Expect hair tangles in the edges of the brush rollers. * Mid mopping performance, so you might have to manually clean hard stains. * Decent Obstacle avoidance, but not the best. * Older flagship. **Ecovacs Deebot X8 Pro Omni** (**$799 USD/ $1199CAD) - Best Mopping** (Not published yet on our website, but we've tested it) * Great hard floor pickup, decent carpet pickup. Okay, at removing pet hair from carpets. * Okay obstacle avoidance on hard floor, bad on carpet. * Excellent mopping. * Unsure of Ecovacs reliability and app experience, as I've seen complaints on this Subreddit before. * Currently borrowing this model, and I'm really impressed with it. I have not experienced any dock leaking, but this is something that I've seen brought up for other roller mop models. **Roborock Saros 10R ($1199USD) - Best overall for most people** * Excellent hard floor cleaning. Decent carpet cleaning. Struggles with pet hair on carpet. Good for mopping. * Excellent hard floor obstacle avoidance, bad carpet obstacle avoidance. * Excellent maneuverability. Slim body allows it to get underneath furniture as low as 3.1" (8 cm). Can also climb thresholds up to 1.5" (3.8cm) in our tests. * Not available in Canada. **Popular Models I'd avoid, but doesn't mean they wouldn't be the best option for you:** * **Dreame X50 Ultra:** It's dual rollers struggle with hard floor pickup more than the dual rollers on the S8 Max V. I also borrowed it for a month to test it in my home, and it would leave clumps of debris everywhere, especially near thresholds. This is based on our testing and my subjective opinion, but it was a miss for me. * **Dreame L40 Ultra:** Controversial, I know, but I was also underwhelmed with its hard floor pickup performance, especially with finer debris. It's decent for carpet, though, and might perform better with the Tri-cut brush. It also scored worse in obstacle avoidance than the Dreame L10s Ultra, which is bizarre since it released 2 years after it. This is another model I borrowed, and was not satisfied with it's cleaning performance in my mostly hard floor apartment. * **Eufy x10 Pro Omni:** It was one of the vacuums I had the most trouble testing due to navigation issues and app issues. Its pickup performance was also pretty poor on carpet, and just okay on hard floor. * **Dyson VisNav 360:** Great potential, but flawed execution and use of old tech make it a bad purchase in my opinion. This thing packed a punch and was excellent at picking up stuff it went over, but the problem was it would frequently miss areas and get lost/confused. * **Shark robot vacuums:** Some of them are good for pickup, but their built quality, navigation issues, and bare-bones app makes question their value. Honorable mentions: * **MOVA P10 Pro:** Best obstacle avoidance in our test out of every single model. Good hard floor pickup, mid carpet pickup, okay mopping. Comments in this Subreddit have mentioned MOVA's manufacturing quality and customer service are question. We had to return our first unit because the dock was non-functional, but the second unit works well. Let me know if you have any questions about my recommendations, and hope this helps out! Edit: I will only be responding while I'm at work, so expect a delay of 24hr for a response. Also added 2 expectations.
Quick recap: OP asked if there was a potential defect with the battery, if spinning mop pads were enough for hard floors and if there was a loss of cleaning quality, and then for recs. I said it might be because 40 minutes of run time seemed too low for a new flagship. I mentioned that while spinning mop pads can sometimes worse, the roller mops are still new tech and The eufy S1 Pro actually did worse than the Roborock 10r in our test. Also, in my opinion, there's bound to be manufacturing issues for products that are being pushed out so quickly with a brand-new technology. I also mentioned that spinning mop pads have been the standard for the last two years and people were happy with them. I mentioned that the Ecovacs X8 Pro Omni is currently the best we've tested for mopping, and that both the Saros 10r and X8 have solid battery lives. Finally, Op asked if there were really problems with customer service for the brands based, and I just mention that I see complaints for all brands, including iRobot and Dyson. I don't think there are any that are really known for good customer service. Hope this helps.
The Ecovacs X8 Pro Omni is great for debris pickup and moping on hard floors. Its main drawbacks are it's mid-obstacle avoidance, carpet pickup, and it's tall so it can't fit under a lot of furniture, but it's at $999 with some replacement accessories, which I find is a great value. I haven't tested every model they have, but for a more budget option the Roborock QX Qrevo is also great for vacuum, has decent mopping, but its obstacle avoidance is quite awful. Roborock is better known for its reliability, but I find that the more recent robot vacuums aren't really built to last more than 3–5 years. The quality assurance has been a mixed bag from pretty much all the brands out there right now, from what I've seen in a lot of the post on here. That being said, Costco's return policy is pretty excellent if you're unhappy with it.
Hey all! I'm a tester from RTINGS, and have experience with over 30+ vacuums. I'd like to offer some tips and advice to help in making buying decisions. As a heads-up, **RTINGS does make money from affiliate links and ads on our website**, however I will not be using any affiliate links in this post. **First step, don't panic.** I know the market is overwhelming right now, and it can be confusing to find the "perfect" one with multiple variants of the same model. In reality, while some robots perform better than others, **the best robot vacuum for you is probably the one that suits your specific needs at the lowest price.** In my last [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1o0pi7j/comment/no8xzum/), I listed **general expectations to have when purchasing a robot vacuum,** and these will remain largely unchanged because they remain true: * **They will not replace your regular vacuum and mop for deep cleaning**, but they will extend the time between your deep cleanings. * **Be vigilant of defects,** **return if necessary.** Because brands are pumping out new models with multiple variants, it leads to worse quality assurance. Avoid new technologies unless you're open to the risks that come with it. * **Customer service and support is a mixed bag.** If you're having trouble getting support, leverage social media brand accounts, Reddit, and forums to see if you can solve the issue yourself without voiding the warranty. If you can, buy from Costco because their return period is amazing. * **Don't expect new software features.** Robots are not like phones that get new features every year, and some robot manufacturers will not add simple software features like "vacuum before mop" to older robots even if the robot is capable of doing it. Instead, new software features are reserved for newer models. * **Obstacle avoidance is not that big of a deal if you don't have kids or pets.** Tidy up loose objects on the floor, tuck away cables, and set no-go zones, and you'll usually be good to go. * **You likely don't need to run it everywhere, every day.** Consider your needs and strategize. Use manual configurations, schedules, and spot cleanings over the built-in AI systems to tailor it to your needs. * **They usually always get hair stuck somewhere, especially long hair.** I have yet to meet a robot that has not gotten hair stuck with our standard 2.5g of long hair. That being said, some are better at it than others. * **The maintenance for the mops/water tanks is very frequent**, but saves more time overall. The general maintenance is usually quick overall, though. * **If you're not emptying the dirty water every day**, it can start to smell foul. To avoid that, you can **put some mouthwash in the empty dirty water tank** for ✨*minty fresh swamp water*✨instead. * **Recurring costs are generally higher and more frequent than regular vacuums.** You can try third party options for brush rollers, but we usually don't test that. * **Even premium models usually have seal problems** **and do not filter as well as standard vacuums with better HEPA/S-Class Filters.** If you have allergies, most of the robots will shoot allergens back up into the air. Consider an air purifier if you really want a robot. (The Levoit Vital 200s is a great option) * **Advertised suction is usually not helpful or representative of pickup performance**. Brush rollers, air flow, side brushes, pathing, and design play big roles in performance and can affect how well a robot cleans. * **Sales will come back. Often.** Robots are usually overpriced at launched and get put on sale frequently. It's a marketing tactic and you'll usually find the best sale prices every few weeks. **Here are some recommendations based on robots we've tested** (also unchanged from my last post)**:** **Dreame L10s Ultra/Pro Ultra ($284 USD/$399CAD - $349USD/$499CAD) - Best Value Introduction Robot Vac/Mop Combo for Small Spaces** with mostly hard floor. * Decent hard floor performance, fully featured dock without the bells and whistles, great obstacle avoidance, decent mopping, upgradeable for carpets with the Tri-Cut Brush. * Pro version adds heated air and water to the dock, a bit more suction power, and an extending edge mop. * Pro version comes with a free tri-cut brush on Amazon. Make sure to add it to your cart before checkout. * Incredible value, you really can't go wrong at this price if you just want something to help with day to day cleaning and don't have high expectations for customer service and longevity. **Roborock Qrevo Series ($349 USD/$449 CAD)** \- **Best Budget for hard floors** * Great hard floor pickup and navigation. Mid-on pickup carpets. Bad at removing pet hair from carpets. * Awful obstacle avoidance. Decent Mopping * Based on Reddit comment, Roborock seems to have a better reputation for reliability. * Costco variant available. (QX Revo) **Roborock S8 Max V Ultra ($899USD/$1999CAD)** \- **Best For Carpet and Pet Hair** * Good all around pickup, excels on carpet thanks to its dual rollers. * Expect hair tangles in the edges of the brush rollers. * Mid mopping performance, so you might have to manually clean hard stains. * Mid-obstacle avoidance. * Not a good sale price in Canada. **Ecovacs Deebot X8 Pro Omni** (**$699 USD/ $799CAD) - Best Mopping** (Not published yet on our website, but we've tested it) * Great hard floor pickup, decent carpet pickup. Okay, at removing pet hair from carpets. * Unsure of long term reliability. * Okay obstacle avoidance on hard floor, bad on carpet. * Excellent mopping. * Costco variant available in Canada **Roborock Saros 10R ($999USD) - Best overall for most people** * Excellent hard floor cleaning. Decent carpet cleaning. Struggles with pet hair on carpet. Good for mopping. * Excellent hard floor obstacle avoidance, bad carpet obstacle avoidance. * Excellent maneuverability. Slim body allows it to get underneath furniture as low as 3.1" (8 cm). Can also climb thresholds up to 1.5" (3.8cm) in our tests. * Not available in Canada. **We unfortunately have not be able to publish new robot vacuum reviews in a while**, so if you're wondering why newer models are not here, it's because we can only recommend the ones we've tested. We've been working on a regular vacuum test bench update for air filtration, which had hit a few roadblocks. If you're interested, you can see part of the test [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/VacuumCleaners/comments/1ohgs4i/be_careful_when_emptying_your_bagless_vacuum/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). Don't worry, though, things should pick back up in 2026. **That being said, I can give my opinion on untested models based on other users experience and my general knowledge.** **Robot Vacuums to Avoid:** * **Eufy x10 Pro Omni:** It was one of the vacuums I had the most trouble testing due to navigation issues and app issues. Its pickup performance was also pretty poor on carpet, and just okay on hard floor. There are better value robots out there. * **Dyson VisNav 360:** Great potential, but flawed execution and use of old tech make it a bad purchase in my opinion. This thing packed a punch and was excellent at picking up stuff it went over, but it's already being replaced by the upcoming Scrub+Spot. * **iRobot Roombas:** This is less about their performance, and more about the fact that the company is doing very poorly financially. Until it's clear that they won't be closing their doors, best save yourself the hassle of buying a robot that may lose support and service options. * **Shark robot vacuums:** Some of them are good for pickup, but their built quality, navigation issues, and bare-bones app makes question their value. * **bObsweep robot vacuums:** Extremely overinflated MSRPs to make it seem like it's a great deal, however they are usually always on sale for a drastically lower price. The app is also very bare bones. * Previously I had the **Dreame L40 and X50**, and while I still personally think they should be avoided, I've had colleagues say that those models worked really well for them. It's possible we got out of spec units for testing, which furthered my concerns about the state of the quality of the market. Let me know if you have any questions about my recommendations, and hope this helps out! I'll be available during my work hours until the end of the week and Cyber Monday. Please allow 24 hours for a response, and note that I won't be able to respond over the weekend. Edit 27/11/2025: Update to S8 Max V pricing as it's sold out on Amazon and now only available at Best Buy for 100$ more. I haven't tested the Qrevo slim, but it looks like it's a good alternative.
If you want a roller mop, then the Ecovacs X8 Pro Omni. If not, the S8 MaxV Ultra is among the best for carpet. There's also the Qrevo Slim which I haven't tested, but has a similar brush roller style, slightly newer obstacle avoidance system, spinning mop pads and is the same price.
For pet hair, the S8 MaxV Ultra would be the best bet. You can also get the version with the drainage kit so you don't have to manually fill and empty the water tanks.
I'm actually curious about this too and will try and investigate this in the new year. The Eufy S1 and the Eufy E28 did about the same as spinning mop pads. The Ecovacs X8 did amazing, but took 3 times longer than the standard to mop the area due to its stain detection feature. We only test with a tomato sauce stain right now, but a new developing a new mopping test is on our radar. Realistically, I've found that pathing and stain detection features play a big role in how well something mops, and in most cases, unless you have a highly stained floor most robots will do a decent to good job. I haven't tested the L50, but I have tested the similar X50, and it got a 6/10 for our pet hair on low pile carpet test. The Ecovacs X8 and Qrevo Curv also got 6/10 (haven't tested the Curv X). In most cases, pet hair on hard floor is easy for any vacuum to pickup, but most of them still get hair stuck even if they have "anti-tangle" features. My best advice for reviews is watch the actual performance of the vacuum if available and don't look at the score, including ours. Make you on conclusions based on what you see, and try to see if it matches your situation. As much as us reviewers try our best to find the best pick, ultimately it's close to impossible to recreate all possible outcomes of the real world, which is why it's important to consider multiple opinions when purchasing. Based on what I can see from your needs, what's available in Canada, from the robots I've tested, the Roborock S8 Max V Ultra or The Ecovacs X8 Pro Omni, will likely be your best bet. You can find the S8 Max V at bestbuy for [$999.99](https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/roborock-s8-maxv-ultra-robot-vacuum-and-mop-with-flexiarm-design-side-brush-reactive-ai-2-0-obstacle-avoidance-and-8-in-1-rockdock-ultra-pet-vacuum-white/18145277)\* and the Ecovacs X8 Pro Omni at Costco for [799.99](https://www.costco.ca/ecovacs-x8-pro-omni-care-robot-vacuum-and-instant-self-washing-roller-mop-bundle.product.4000350883.html)\*. Both will likely get hair stuck in their brush rollers, but the Ecovacs will be more challenging to clean due to its bristles. I made a quick table for you here with the X8, S8 MaxV and the Curv (added noise level for the doggos): https://preview.redd.it/dxq7wdfgx04g1.png?width=1448&format=png&auto=webp&s=6f9c1779ed524d273b8165c1ae93c4dfd9f6bc5e Hope this helps! \*Not affiliate links
From the ones we've tested and that are still available, the S8 Max V Ultra ($899 at bestbuy) would be the best bet for high pile carpet and pet hair. It does have mopping though, and there is a non mopping robot called the Q8 Max that vacuum only and borrows certain parts from it. I haven't tested it, but I have tested the Q5 Pro+ which is a similar robot and has the same brush rollers as it. The Q8 doesn't seem to have great obstacle avoidance, so that's something to keep in mind. It's available on Amazon in white only for $169.99. There's also the Qrevo Slim, which is slightly cheaper than the S8 max V that does have obstacle avoidance, but it does have mop which you can just remove. I haven't tested it, but it borrows parts from the S8 Max V so the performance is likely to be the same. Hope this helps!
The S8 MaxV Ultra is the best for pet hair on carpet and does a good job on hard floor, and you can find it at Best Buy. For something a little cheaper, the Qrevo Slim is also a good option. If you have a smaller budget, the L10s Pro Ultra with the Tri-Cut should do a decent job as well. Hope this helps!
The Saros 10R is excellent for hard floor (9.5), just okay for high pile (7/10) and low pile (6.5) carpet, and bad for pet hair on carpet (5/10). The S8 Max V is more balanced with great hard floor pickup (8/10) and pet hair on carpet pickup (8/10), and good high pile (7.5/10) and low pile (7.5/10) pickup performance. The Saros 10R beats the S8 in mopping and obstacle avoidance. The Qrevo Slim is kind of an in-between of the Saros 10R, with the same mopping system and an earlier version of the more advanced navigation and obstacle avoidance system. It also has the same brush rollers as the S8 Max V, so it's carpet pickup and hard floor pickup would be expected to be the same. The main issue with the 10R for you would be the pet hair, since it tended to get caught in the bristles of the brush roller and get spread around our test carpet.
The Q7 Max+ is an older model with an all rubber brush roller. The Q7 M5+ is a newer model with a rubber and bristle brush. If you have carpets, the bristles can help agitate and lift debris out of it, but they tend to get dirty with pet hair if that's a concern. The Q8 Max+ has all rubber dual rollers, which is better for carpets and pet hair on carpet. The Q10 X5+ seems to be similar to the Q7 M5+, but adds a carpet sensor, a basic obstacle avoidance system, and a better mop with lifting capabilities. If carpets and pet hair are a concern, I'd go with the Q8 Max+. If it's just hard floor with no mopping, the Q7 M5+ would be the best value. If you want a bagless, the AI Ultra does an okay job on hard floor (7/10), but I personally would not get it. Hope this helps!
In our testing, the Freo X Ultra (Similar to the pro) got 7.5/10 on hard floor pickup, and the Qrevo got 8.5/10. The Qrevo also did better for mopping and carpet debris pickup. Both were bad at pet hair on carpet, and both got hair tangled in their brush rollers, and both allow you to easily remove the hair. Both are bad for obstacle avoidance, so you'll have to tidy loose cables and socks before running them. The Freo has a debris compression feature and does not have an auto empty dock like the Qrevo. We tested this and found that their claim of 7 weeks was a bit off, as we ran it at a testers home with two cats and found it lost suction around the 25-day mark (of running it every day). If you're looking at the N30, might be best to go with the newer T50 Omni, as they are the same price right now (I'm in Quebec so it might be different for you). I haven't tested either, but we have tested the X8 Pro omni, which has the same brush roller so they should perform the same (8/10 on hardfloor). It did a little better with pet hair on carpet than the Narwal and the Roborock. From what I've seen on this Subreddit, Roborocks do tend to be more reliable over time, but since we don't test longevity, I can only go based on user commentary. From my experience of testing both robots, the Freo had so many bugs at the time, and the app was far less feature rich and stable than Roborocks. However, this was back in mid 2024, so it's possible those issues have been ironed out. Boxing Day sales usually start the same week as Christmas, so maybe hold off for those to see if a better vacuum goes down in price, like the QX Revo Arc (Qrevo Curv rebranded) or the Ecovas X8 Pro Omni. Hope this helps and happy holidays!
Ragdolls are majestic, but their fine, downy fur combined with wet mopping is the exact recipe for the musty, damp smell you are experiencing. Your instincts about the Dreame L20 Ultra are spot on. Spinning mop pads are decent for light maintenance, but in a home with heavy pet shedding and low airflow, those pads become saturated with wet dander, oils, and microscopic hair. Even if the robot washes the pads at the base station, it is still essentially dragging a damp sponge of organic matter across your floors between cycles, which ferments and causes the odor. Here is how your two best options break down for tackling the Ragdoll tumbleweeds and eliminating the smell. Option 1: The Manual Route (Dreame H12 Pro Flex) If you are willing to spend 10 to 15 minutes doing the floors yourself, an electric wet/dry vacuum like the Dreame H12 Pro Flex will entirely solve the odor and cleaning issue. * Why it fixes the smell: Wet/dry vacuums use a single, fast-spinning roller. Clean water and detergent are continuously injected into the roller, while a scraper blade immediately extracts the dirty, hairy water up into a sealed waste tank. You are always cleaning with fresh water, so there is no cross-contamination or smearing. * The "Flex" advantage: Ragdoll hair loves to hide under beds and sofas. The H12 Pro Flex is designed to lay completely flat (180 degrees), allowing you to reach under furniture where standard wet/dry vacs physically cannot go. Option 2: The Automated Route (Roller-Mop AIO Robots) If you want to keep the convenience of a robot vacuum but completely avoid the spinning pad issue, the high-end robot market has recently solved this exact problem. You need to look for a robot that uses a continuous roller mop (sometimes called a track mop) instead of spinning pads. Models like the Ecovacs Deebot X8 Pro Omni or the Roborock Saros 10R miniaturize the technology found in the Dreame H12. * How they work: Instead of two flat circles that spin, these robots use a rolling track. Just like the upright vacuums, they constantly wash their own roller with fresh water while they drive around, scraping the dirty water into an onboard wastewater tank. * The result: They leave behind significantly less water, they don't smear wet pet dander, and the floor dries much faster, which prevents odors from forming in a low-airflow environment. They also boast massive suction power (upwards of 18,000+ Pa) specifically designed to prevent hair tangles. The Verdict If you want the absolute deepest clean and don't mind steering the device yourself, the Dreame H12 Pro Flex is brilliant and will save you a lot of money compared to a flagship robot. If you prefer to stay hands-off, skip any robot with spinning pads and upgrade to a roller-mop AIO like the Deebot X8 Pro Omni.
I decided to take the leap and try the T90. In the paste have openly shared my distaste for the X8 Pro Omni and the T50 Max Pro Omni that I had. The X8 left bad water marks on the floors and the T50 couldn’t map my home to save its life and also wouldn’t wet the mops consistently (it would dry mop randomly). The T90 feels totally different. I’ve actually enjoyed using it for the last 3 days… and I prefer it over the Saros 20. By a pretty good margin. I know I’m going to get hate, and EcoVacs isn’t my favorite brand by any means, but as long as this thing can keep going without any major hiccups, this could be such an amazing value buy for people wanting a roller mop with flagship features (assuming you can get it below $700) The comparable model in the Yeedi lineup should be the Yeedi M16 Infinity which I might try out to see if the budget version still holds up (assuming the T90 doesn’t start acting up) I also want to mention that EcoVacs has updated their app UI and there is some cool features that I really enjoy using. It’s still not a Roborock UI, but it’s dang close. There is now a listed cleaning sequence that pops up when you start multiple room cleanings and it gives you the option to skip a room or add a new room in front of the room it’s currently cleaning. Also, I really like the Dynamic Island feature that displays on my phone showing me the cleaning time and information on what the robot is doing. Again, hate me all you want. Downvote the post idc. I openly bash on EcoVacs all the time. Straight the T90 has been awesome for me. **Pros:** **-** *Price (if on sale)* *- Love the matted texture on the dock and robot (it’s not shiny plastic)* *- Does everything my $1,600 Narwal Flow 2 and Roborock Saros 20 does… for half the price* *- Vacuums really well and gets under my cabinets well* *- Mops well (no streaks, floors feel the same as when the Flow 2 Mops)* *- Water efficiency is great.* *Uses* *the exact same amount of water on the medium (30) setting that Narwal Flow 2 uses to mop my entire house. See photos for comparison.* **Cons:** \- *Sounds like a remote control car when driving through my house (kinda of a high pitched motor whirring from the wheels)* \- *I noticed EcoVacs robots like “see-saw” when they stop and go which is weird. Doesn’t seem firmly planted on the floor.* Hate away! I’ll continue using the T90 until it breaks or something pisses me off enough to return it. If it gets to that point you can count on me updating this thread with a nice post eating crow and letting the world know I was wrong.
https://preview.redd.it/cofhegkq17ug1.jpeg?width=1206&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7dc82e8dfda52fe6f694ac2b0feb35115b3b2584 See my post above this. The battery is insane. Idk how else to describe it. This thing could literally clean for hours on end. This cleaning session pictured used like 10% battery. I have dust bin empty set to frequent so it goes back a lot. Each time it tops up like 5-10% battery within a few minutes and then goes back out. For comparison, the Mova Z60 set to same settings drained to 10% battery within 800 sq ft and had to go back and recharge for almost an hour before going back out…
So I noticed after a while one of our rooms was looking really dirty - like it’s wasn’t getting mopped overnight. The rest of the house looked spotless. After investigating, indeed the T90 is only mopping a very very small corner of the room before moving on to the next room. I watched it later in the evening to verify, and yes, it only mops a small corner and then leaves. The odd part is, it vacuums the entire room no issue, and if i send it back to “Zone” clean or send it back for a separate “Vac and Mop” cleaning run - it mops the entire room. No problem. It only happens in “Mop after Vac” mode. I’ve tried deleting the nearby rug/carpet to see if the at fixed the issue - it did not. I have emailed EcoVacs support to see what they say. https://preview.redd.it/g0dvlcjslevg1.jpeg?width=1206&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23022a73414503de883b7bca8b52a3448fcd9e9d
Yes, I sent it back and ordered the X12 instead. X12 was cool but the T90 was better. X12 had issues mapping on 3 separate tries because it uses RGB front facing cameras only (T90/X9s had traditional spinning LiDAR in the front) Ended up sending the X12 back because I don’t feel like the features are worth the price. It also mopped worse than the T90 for some reason.
I wanted to love the Ecovacs x8 soooo badly, but no matter what water setting I tried (lowest at 1 to max at 50) it left streaks behind from the slight groove in the roller knap. It also would leave “u” or crescent shaped water spots when it turned around. https://preview.redd.it/v8y8m5zs2mag1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26dc5912394c0ba3a0cbb58bdea80bf198d05fe0
https://preview.redd.it/p30u1ltu2mag1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec4f735c807559de55d932bcc90e70fe92c59fc4 Streaks after mopping had dried. And I was only using distilled water. Checked roller for debris (it was brand new so there was none). Was super bummed and sent it back.
I’m running the v50 right now next to the e25 and no matter what I do (outside of a factory reset) this thing is a confused turtle that just creeps around and does random circles in odd areas. Yes, it is much quieter, looks nicer, the app is wayyyy nicer and has more features, but for me - I just want my floors cleaned well, and want it done efficiently so I don’t have a vacuum roaming my house for 2.5 hours. Also, I ran both side by side using selected area cleaning and mopping on my tile, and the e25 demolished the v50 in all aspects. Was faster, more efficient, hugged the edges and corners super tight, and in one pass had the tile sparkling. The v50 was slow, took a few pauses when getting near furniture and the scrubbing power of the spinning pads just didn’t thoroughly clean enough. There were still a few dried slobber marks in direct sunlight because the v50 just doesn’t have that force to scrub the tile. I also watched the v50 go completely haywire in my bedroom, getting high centered on furniture legs and ramming into our bed posts with AI and Smart Automation features off. I tried enabling them one by one and re starting the clean from scratch and the results never really got better. Once all of the smart AI features are back on it does amazing and is super careful, but again, for my liking it’s too careful. Like doesnt want to clean near stuff at all unless its a flat wall or a wide table with simple legs it can reach the mop pads out to easily. I’m going to keep trying the v50 for now, but it looking like it will probably be sent back.
https://preview.redd.it/7rxh7f793mag1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e0de278f90d2dde580cec6f1f512835e5ed8f00 Sent the EcoVacs X8 back. It just couldn’t stop streaking no matter what I tired.
Oof. Ok - having some issues with this e25 now. 1) the roller mop speed seems to have exponentially decreased to the point where it’s turning so slowly that combined with the downward pressure on the floor while it’s driving, it almost comes to a stop and is just being drug behind. 2) I clean this unit every single day and inspect all the parts as this is more of a test and review scenario for me, and no matter what I do rinsing and cleaning this roller mop - it absolutely reeks. My wife and I noticed that cleaning with just water our floors smell like dirty gym socks from the stinky roller, dragging around our tile floor. I’ve tried disinfecting and sanitizing, which usually helps immediately but after one or two wash cycles inside the dock and one or two cleaning sessions that roller is back to stinking really bad and it’s not something that you can just throw in the washing machine like circular mop, pads, or the Narwal Flow track mop.
Should I buy it and test it? I’m running the T90 and Aqua 10 right now. T90 and X12 are basically the same thing aside from the spray nozzles and the bagless dock. Same general cleaning hardware, same AIVI nav, etc. My T90 is the bomb.com as far as cleaning goes. Gets under all my cabinets and does great vacuuming all the dog hair out of our rugs and off the hard floor. Mops great. Navigates great. Fast charging is amazing. Clears the dust bin without issue, and the mop tray is the easiest to clean out of all the robots I’ve tried + I actually appreciate that. It’s a dull gray color because it doesn’t show our white dog hair and all the other dirty stuff as easily as a black or solid white tray does. I used to absolutely despise Ecovacs, but the T90 has been absolutely amazing. I’m assuming the X12 is great too but there’s spray jet thing seems a little silly to me and I wouldn’t know if I’d find practical use for it tbh
Dude you comment this on every single post lol. My T90 has been literally flawless on all my floral patterned rugs. Honestly, it’s done better than 95% of all flagship robots I’ve tested. I hated EcoVacs for the same reason as you - my X8 and T50 were a busy. X8 left streaks and water all over the floor when it turned around and the T50 was just a nightmare and couldn’t do anything correct. The T90 is insanely good in my home. So good in fact, I chose it over the Narwal Flow 2, Roborock Curv 2 Flow, Mova Z60, and I’m trying it against the Aqua 10 now and it’s better in many ways. I disabled AIVI 4.0 to see what would happen and saw no change really, so I think those things are somewhat gimmicky. Anyways, I get that you had a bad experience, but there’s a lot of ppl out here using the T90 successfully…maybe you got a shit unit by bad luck.

Roborock
Qrevo S
Reliable, great mopping (lifts pads), but poor cable avoidance.

Roborock
Saros 10 Series
Slim, quiet, excellent avoidance, but weak on carpet.

Dreame
L40S Ultra
Superior avoidance, great for pet hair, but poor on carpets.

MOVA
P10 Pro Ultra
Budget king, smart avoidance, but struggles on patterned carpets.

Roborock
Qrevo Curv Series
Great for pet hair; handles high thresholds, but poor avoidance.

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