Eufy - L60 with Self-Empty Station

Roborock is running sales on their refurbished eBay store rn. You can get the [Q5 max+ for $216](https://ebay.us/m/RslbTV) (before tax) with their clippable coupon rn. Comes with a 2 year warranty as well. Also, Before I went down the rabbit hole that is premium robot vacuums, I tried out the eufy l60 ses and thought it was great for the price. I bought [this one refurbished from their store on eBay for $229.](https://ebay.us/m/ang45E) Picked up my supper shedder dog’s hair pretty well and it self empties.

I live in a hard floor home. Eufy has a lil guy that has done us well for a month or so. Floof does clog the bristles but not nearly as much as I anticipated. The pet edition cuts and clears the brush each time it empties. When that isn't enough, there is a built in tiny tool that helps get the last bits of stubborn floof from the roller. The parts that come off to clean it further are really easy to work with, and the only issue I have had has been keeping up with the tiny tool when it's needed. They claimed the collection bag will last for 2 months. I scoffed, and bought extras immediately. But here we are in a month and some change of use, and the same bag, still picking up stuff. Like you this isn't the end all be all floor cleaning, just for in-between. I have carpal tunnel issues and a few other nerve problems that make my hands totally hate me some days. I have done floor surgery on my R2DustPan on a bad day, and I have no complaints. This is the one we got. https://a.co/d/6BGmx9b

I have the same one, and can attest that it works well in a house with a husky and small child. Just FYI, the chute on the bag holder can get clogged, so you will need a drain weasel or other long flexible hook to unclog it.

Since no one's mentioned it, there are two Eufy robovacs that may fit: * L50 and L60, with or without SES (self-empty station). * E20. The L50 and L60 should be easy to find reviews on, as they've been out for a while. The L60 was the Vacuum Wars best budget robot for a while. The L50 is basically a less powerful and cheaper L60. The E20 was shown at CES just this year, isn't available yet, and has no independent reviews that I've seen. Its hook: the vacuum motor can be removed from the robovac and used as a handheld vac, or attached to an included stick attachment and used as a stick floor vacuum. Putting the motor back into the robovac can trigger auto-emptying of your manual vacuuming into the base. None of this takes away from the Roborocks, which have been mentioned a few times. I'm just filling in a few alternatives.

Two regular recommendations made here: the Roborock Q5 Max+ and the Eufy L60. Both can be had with a self-empty station for less than $400 when on sale.

The L60 Hybrid (the version with the mop pad) is on sale right now for $279 on Amazon and Best Buy. You can buy this and throw the mop pad in a drawer, or get the SES for $399 on Amazon. Don't ask me why the Hybrid is cheaper than the SES, given that you get the SES as part of the Hybrid. Roborock is doing something similar; the Q5 Pro+ is on sale for $359 (with coupon) on Amazon, while the Q5 Max+ is over $500. The Pro+ includes a mop, and is otherwise the same.

"Perfect" with robot vacuums is not a thing. In all cases, you have to prioritize and compromise, even with the expensive ones. So why pay the big bucks? Honestly, if you look at an expensive robot and you don't see one or more features that jump out at you as "must haves", then I don't know why you'd pay the big bucks. There are a lot of pretty good cheap robots. I own a flagship robot: the Eufy S1 Pro, which retails for $1500, and I got on sale for $1000. In my mind, there were two big features that spoke to me: really good obstacle avoidance, and the roller mop system that cleans the mop continuously. Compromises included average to poor vacuuming performance on carpet, a bit more maintenance (due to that continuous mop cleaning feature), less good edge and corner cleaning, so-so hair tangling performance, and the price. I'm quite happy with my choice; it's met my expectations for five months now. For you, this is a pretty poor match. If you spent $1000+ on this, you'd probably be pretty disappointed, especially with those tall and fluffy carpets. I don't think the S1 Pro is particularly bad as a flagship, at least from the impressions I get from reviewers and user comments. It's possible to make a similar list of pros and cons for every flagship out there, which you've already done for a few of them. So if I were you, I'd probably start with something as cheap as you can live with, and then ask yourself what that can't do that you really need. Then start looking for robots that do those things, and ask yourself if you can live with their drawbacks. Try to get into a mindset of "paying for features" rather than "paying for perfection". Since you like the Roborock Qrevo Master, I'll point you at something to use as a baseline that's more in line with the experience you've had so far: the Roborock Q5 Max+. This should give you an improved experience over your current robot at a price that's a bit higher than what you paid. The Eufy L60 SES is also worth mentioning at this level. From there, see what upgrades look like. For example, there are two directions you can go from the Eufy L60: the Eufy C20 or E20. The C20 adds mopping and automatic mop washing, while the E20 is a better implementation of the L60 idea, along with the ability to convert to a handheld cordless vacuum. Which one of those sounds better to you? Can you live with the drawbacks? Would you be frustrated spending "that much" and having to live with "those problems"? On the Roborock side, maybe the Qrevo S is a good stopping point on your way towards the Master. Or maybe you'd want to switch vendors, and move from the Q5 Max+ to the Dreame L10s Ultra, for example. Reviews can be a problem, especially since you need to weed out both the naysayers and the sponsored shills. Reputation is probably the best thing to go by. To that end, here are a few YouTube reviewers that seem to do pretty well at being fair and balanced: * Vacuum Wars * Just A Dad * Jamie Andrews * Vacuum Chef * The French Glow * The Hook Up Hope that helps. Good luck!

I'll first point out: make sure what you get is compatible with 240V power. You don't want to fry your new robot when you get home. I'd also echo FarConcern2308's warning about warranty issues. Multi-floor support is likely to be more about the manufacturer than the model. Dreame, Roborock, and Narwal seem to be the safe choices. Eufy can do it as well, but it's a bit more annoying to use from my experience. Shark multi-floor support is basically nonexistent. iRobot is behind in navigation generally. For mopping, there are basically two choices: the Eufy S1 Pro, and everything else. Feature-wise, the S1 Pro is a bit behind the other robots; this includes things like extending mops, AI mess detection, automatic re-mopping, and the like. But the S1 Pro has the best mop on the market, in my opinion. Most of the better mops today use two spinning circular pads on the rear of the robot, but the S1 Pro uses a roller mop along with an onboard mop cleaning system and dirty water tank. This means that the mop surface is constantly being cleaned as the robot is mopping, while the other robots can only add clean water to their pads, and have to go back to the base every so often to clean them. I've got a S1 Pro, and am really happy with its mop performance; like you, I mostly need mine for hard floors. For hair tangles, my beloved S1 Pro is unfortunately middle-of-the-road, particularly on carpets. You'll need to clear the main brush axles of accumulated hair every so often even on hard floors. Dreame seems to have the best system here, with their tricut brush that can be added on to most of their newer robots. Amazingly, a budget vacuum (the Eufy L60 with self-empty station) gets top marks here as well, although the mop performance is more in line with a budget system and not very good. It doesn't sound like object avoidance is as big a deal, but just for completeness: the high-end robots from Eufy, Narwal, and Dreame are going to be best at avoiding stuff on the floor. Anything with LIDAR should be able to steer clear of taller objects, but the Eufy S1 Pro, Dreame X40 Ultra, and Narwal Freo Z have multiple front sensors and advanced software for the smaller stuff. Roborock is a step behind, generally, although there are reports that their most recent releases have improved in this area. I'll also point out that some of the manufacturers have sub-brands that are nearly as good and often cheaper. (Or super-brands; some Roborock and Dreame models are re-sold under the Xiaomi name, though not so much in the USA.) I hope that helps. Do check out the online reviews; a few good places on YouTube are Vacuum Wars, Just A Dad, and Jamie Andrews. There are also a lot of good people here, some of whom might disagree with some of my conclusions; definitely pay attention to those differences of opinion. No one robovac can do it all just yet, so the biggest thing is prioritizing your must-haves and deciding what weaknesses you can live with. Good luck!

If you go ahead with the replacement, here are three options -- two that are common recommendations, and one that's new as of this year, but may be worth a look. If you're wanting to change brands, look at the Roborock Q5 series. The Max+ has no mop, while the Pro+ has a mop. I only mention the Pro+ because a few of the sales seem to have the Pro+ cheaper than the Max+, and the only difference is the presence of the mop, so check which one is cheaper. Both have a dual-roller brush, which is reported to do better with hair tangles. If Eufy is still on your list, there are two interesting options. The L60 SES/Hybrid is a pretty good option. The Hybrid has a mop; same story as the Roborock. It has a blade in the base station that cuts hair tangles off the roller. If you're willing to take a little risk, Eufy just released the E20. It's a bit pricey, but is essentially a vacuum unit that can be used as a vacuum-only robot, a handheld cordless vac, or a cordless stick vac. You can switch back and forth pretty much at will. It's risky because it's new, and pretty much all the reviews available are sponsored, so of course the E20 is revolutionary and game-changing. :-) Independent reviews and real user reports are starting to come out, but it's still pretty slim pickings. Of your requested features, the one you might have to compromise on is the obstacle avoidance. For whatever reason, the manufacturers don't put the best obstacle avoidance on vacuum-only robots. All of the above have some level of obstacle avoidance, but your current X10 is going to be better than pretty much all of them (with the possible exception of the E20).

Sort of. There's also the Eufy L50 and L60 models, which are almost the same except for less suction and a lower price for the L50. Also look at the new Roomba 105 and 705, many Shark models, and the Dyson 360 Vis Nav. As always, check reviews; the Roombas in particular haven't reviewed well. What's more common is a vacuum-only robot with a stationary mop pad that's just stuck on the bottom. Technically, it's a combo with mopping, but the mop is just an add-on, and can be ignored. An example of this is the Roborock Q5 Pro and Pro+, which is the Q5 Max and Max+ with a mop tacked on and a few cosmetic changes. Sometimes, the Pro is even cheaper than the Max, which makes the Pro the smart buy. Just throw the mop plate in a drawer or in the trash. Be careful, though, that you're not sacrificing dustbin space for the water tank. The very similar Roborock Q7 M5 does this, while the Pro has the water tank as part of the mop plate. The most notable model that technically supports mopping, but only as an add-on, is the SwitchBot K10+. It comes with little disposable mopping cloths that attach to hooks on the back of the robot. Ignore the cloths, and you have a very good small robot that can get into lots of tight spaces and which has been reviewed to vacuum well.

So an unknown brand just came out with a fairly pedestrian robot with stationary-pad mopping, and it has a higher rating than some of the highest-regarded robots on the market? Nope. If you really need mopping on a budget, take a look at the Dreame D10+, Eufy L60 Hybrid, or one of the Roborock Q series robots. For a big improvement in mopping for not much more money, look at the Eufy C20 or Dreame L10s Ultra series. Mova can be good, if they've solved their problem with fragile front wheels. If you don't care about mopping, look at the Eufy L60 SES or SwitchBot K10+.

If you were happy with the G30, check out the Eufy L60, which is probably the closest model to the G30. It's an improvement over the G30, with real LIDAR navigation and good app support. You can get it standalone, with a self-empty station, or with a mop. The self-empty version is $280 on Amazon right now, which is a very good deal. It doesn't have the dual rollers, but it does have a hair-cutting blade on the dock, if that was what you were concerned about with the dual roller design. Also similar: the Eufy C10, which is $230 with self-empty on Amazon. Its navigation will be a little bit worse than the L60. No dual roller brush on this one either, but it does have an extending side brush for better corner cleaning. Most of the dual roller robots I know of also include at least a stationary mop pad. You can remove the mop plate and forget it even exists; the stationary mop does not affect vacuuming performance or impose a lot of overhead, unlike the other types. If you're fine with getting a mop you don't use, a number of options arise: the Q8 you mentioned and the Dreame D20 Pro+ come to mind. But if you must have a robot with no mop and dual rollers, here's your robot: the Roborock Q5 Max+. Its only drawback: it's $500 on Amazon US. If you'd rather pay more for a robot with no mop, you can do that.

Eufy may be your best bet. Look at their C10, L60, and E20 models. As a bonus, the E20 converts into a cordless stick vac, in case you need one of those. Another good choice would be the Roborock Q5 Max+, though it tends to be a bit more expensive. Finally, consider getting a robot with a stationary pad mop. I know you said you want just a vacuum, but those are getting more and more rare over time. It's really easy to just slap a Swiffer pad on the back of a robot vacuum, so most manufacturers are doing just that. You don't pay a lot for it (and sometimes pay less!), and it's easy to leave off and pretend it doesn't exist. It also tends to not have a significant effect on vacuuming performance. A lot of options will open up if you expand your search in this way.

I'll add to the vote for the Roborock Q5 Max, but there are other alternatives: many Shark robots, plus the Eufy L50, L60, C10, and E20 models. A few models put the water tank into the mop plate, and thus do not sacrifice any dustbin space for water storage. An example would be the Roborock Q5 Pro, which is basically the Q5 Max with some cosmetic changes and a mop pad. I've seen the Pro cheaper than the Max, which means you're paying more money just for the privilege of not getting a mop; ditto for the L60 SES vs. Hybrid. So that's something to consider.

I tried the Eufy L60 SES and it's seriously awesome—definitely the most powerful one you can get at this price.

Yeah. It’s such a great value for the price.

Have the same - deals with cat hair and wife hair perfectly. Self empty feature is nice but the brush clean / hair cutting blade is absolutely brilliant. This unit replaced a Neato unit - which was ok, but the mapping and exclusion zones, and ability to run multiple maps on the Robovac is brilliant.

This is the cheapest (besides online only) available from JB. Get the extended warranty. https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/eufy-clean-robovac-l60-ses-with-auto-empty-station We’ve had a Eufy since around 2020 and every time it dies after about 2 years JB refunds us a gift card which I use to buy the next one along with the extended warranty. We upgraded to a Roomba last time. It is the most useful appliance we own. In my experience the ones that mop really just drag around a damp micro fiber cloth around your house. You’re better off to mop once a week.

So I have 2 dogs, both shed a lot and get a lot of mud from our yard and generally where I live is quite rainy so all after the rain the dogs do get the floor dirty Because of this I absolutely needed a mop and of course vaccum for hair and carpet as well. I use Roborock (https://amzn.to/48YmUPv) and have been quite satisfied. By the time I clean them after their mud fiasco the roborock is able to mop off mud and wet dirt off the floor. I can also just clean a small area that has dirt and get the robovac to the dock again and all this with the app which is super helpful. I also block some high wire areas in the app so I am guessing you can do so for your carpet if needed. I prefer it's self cleaning as it helps me use the mop or vacuum twice a day if needed too and then I just empty it out when full. Generally I am a heavy user and with that I empty the dock station every 3 days. Another reason why I choose Roborock for my main area is because with dogs, sometimes you need to replace parts ( is m too lazy to untangle if need be) so I just replace the parts and many companies make Roborock parts and are cheap so thats a plus. I have also used EUFY l60: https://amzn.to/4kfWGgN for my top floors but the dogs don't come there often but there is enough hair in the house to be picked up and the L60 works fine there which is vaccum only.

Hello! I completely get you! If you havent owned a robovac I would suggest going for known brands like Eufy or Roborock. I have used both and have 2 pets. Recommendations: 1) Eufy L60: https://amzn.to/3GjRaLw ; it is recommended due to hair detangling tech and surely works on Pet hair! I have tried it myself and a bonus is that it can empty. It is aroun 550 dollars at the min. It has a smaller setup but suction is not that high so if you have a cat or pet with smaller hair it can get tough to pick up at times. 2) Roborock QV: https://amzn.to/3EEIij1 higher suction and for a roborock very well in the price for 499 dollars for prime members. I recommend roborock due to its suction and the availability of spare parts (other companies make) which are cheap and you can replace brushes etc pretty easily if you dont want to detangle at a later stage. Love their app as well! It's a plus that it has a mop, do note that the cleaning can be a bit noisy and if your pet gets scared easily then might not be great but overall highly recommend the roborock brand. I have tried 2 of these and they last long!

Hello! I completely get you! If you havent owned a robovac I would suggest going for known brands like Eufy or Roborock. I have used both and have 2 pets. Recommendations: 1. Eufy L60: [https://amzn.to/3GjRaLw](https://amzn.to/3GjRaLw) ; it is recommended due to hair detangling tech and surely works on Pet hair! I have tried it myself and a bonus is that it can empty. It is aroun 550 dollars at the min. It has a smaller setup but suction is not that high so if you have a cat or pet with smaller hair it can get tough to pick up at times. 2. Roborock QV: [https://amzn.to/3EEIij1](https://amzn.to/3EEIij1) higher suction and for a roborock very well in the price for 499 dollars for prime members as of now. Roborock qrevo is Great too : [https://amzn.to/42heLVB](https://amzn.to/42heLVB) I recommend roborock due to its suction and the availability of spare parts (other companies make) which are cheap and you can replace brushes etc pretty easily if you dont want to detangle at a later stage. Love their app as well! It's a plus that it has a mop, do note that the cleaning can be a bit noisy and if your pet gets scared easily then might not be great but overall highly recommend the roborock brand. I have tried 2 of these and they last long!

I prefer ROBOROCK as well and have used EUFY as well. Prefer ROBOROCK as it lasts more , easy to get parts , I had Eufy just for upstairs but needed more maintenance than roborock and i felt it did not get app upgrades that made it stale sooner than Roborock.. Some tested vaccum only or optional mop from roborock a d vaccum.in order or prefeence especially for long hair and dogs ( I have 2 dogs + long hair) 1) https://amzn.to/3TiJqMI Q5 Max+ roborock vaccum only, self empty 2)https://amzn.to/3SHgEoY Q10 Roborock anti tangle with a light mop if needed one in a while. Mop is ok and I have used in bathrooms etc but not like a spinner mop 3) if you want to consider Eufy then l60 is decent at the price as it's modified for pets https://amzn.to/4kZaexG with anti tangle etc

So based on your needs roborock.qrevo series might be a good fit. I have a Qrevo and has auto empty dock and great with.pet hair due to anti tangle feature Also I have a baby at home and Roborock parts are easy to get so sometimes rather than cleaning them out I just replace them when I don't have time and that might be helpful for the household as you can replace them when you are there and it reduces maintenance Another option with no mop is Eufy , the parts are ok to find and good for pet hair So here are some or the recommendations: 1) https://amzn.to/4dDP1a1 Qrevo series; great for hair. Coat 599 2) https://amzn.to/4dNIDNp Roborock qrevo plus: 599 3) https://amzn.to/4dEAYRA Eufy 60; this is a good starting point if you want to test and dont need a mop. May need some more maintenance but overall good and worth the cost To your point of silent, auto empty docks are not that silent in general so I suggest you check some videos to gauge the noise and if it's acceptable for you. There are different vaccum settings which reduces noise but that's about it, auto empty docks do make noise a little though

So I have 2 dogs, both shed a lot and get a lot of mud from our yard and generally where I live is quite rainy so all after the rain the dogs do get the floor dirty Because of this I absolutely needed a mop and of course vaccum for hair and carpet as well. I agree; roborock Qrevo series is pretty good; https://amzn.to/4dDP1a1 By the time I clean them after their mud fiasco the roborock is able to mop off mud and wet dirt off the floor. I can also just clean a small area that has dirt and get the robovac to the dock again and all this with the app which is super helpful. I also block some high wire areas in the app so I am guessing you can do so for your carpet if needed. I prefer it's self cleaning as it helps me use the mop or vacuum twice a day if needed too and then I just empty it out when full. Generally I am a heavy user and with that I empty the dock station every 3 days. Another reason why I choose Roborock for my main area is because with dogs, sometimes you need to replace parts ( is m too lazy to untangle if need be) so I just replace the parts and many companies make Roborock parts and are cheap so thats a plus. I have also used EUFY l60: https://amzn.to/4kfWGgN for my top floors but the dogs don't come there often but there is enough hair in the house to be picked up and the L60 works fine there which is vaccum only.

So I have 2 dogs, both shed a lot and get a lot of mud from our yard and generally where I live is quite rainy so all after the rain the dogs do get the floor dirty Because of this I absolutely needed a mop and of course vaccum for hair and carpet as well. I agree; roborock Qrevo series is pretty good; https://amzn.to/4dDP1a1 By the time I clean them after their mud fiasco the roborock is able to mop off mud and wet dirt off the floor. I can also just clean a small area that has dirt and get the robovac to the dock again and all this with the app which is super helpful. I also block some high wire areas in the app so I am guessing you can do so for your carpet if needed. I prefer it's self cleaning as it helps me use the mop or vacuum twice a day if needed too and then I just empty it out when full. Generally I am a heavy user and with that I empty the dock station every 3 days. Another reason why I choose Roborock for my main area is because with dogs, sometimes you need to replace parts ( is m too lazy to untangle if need be) so I just replace the parts and many companies make Roborock parts and are cheap so thats a plus. I have also used EUFY l60: https://amzn.to/4kfWGgN for my top floors but the dogs don't come there often but there is enough hair in the house to be picked up and the L60 works fine there which is vaccum only.

So I have 2 dogs, both shed a lot and get a lot of mud from our yard and generally where I live is quite rainy so all after the rain the dogs do get the floor dirty Because of this I absolutely needed a mop and of course vaccum for hair and carpet as well. I agree; roborock Qrevo series is pretty good; https://amzn.to/4dDP1a1 By the time I clean them after their mud fiasco the roborock is able to mop off mud and wet dirt off the floor. I can also just clean a small area that has dirt and get the robovac to the dock again and all this with the app which is super helpful. I also block some high wire areas in the app so I am guessing you can do so for your carpet if needed. I prefer it's self cleaning as it helps me use the mop or vacuum twice a day if needed too and then I just empty it out when full. Generally I am a heavy user and with that I empty the dock station every 3 days. Another reason why I choose Roborock for my main area is because with dogs, sometimes you need to replace parts ( is m too lazy to untangle if need be) so I just replace the parts and many companies make Roborock parts and are cheap so thats a plus. I have also used EUFY l60: https://amzn.to/4kfWGgN for my top floors but the dogs don't come there often but there is enough hair in the house to be picked up and the L60 works fine there which is vaccum only.

So I have 2 dogs, both shed a lot and get a lot of mud from our yard and generally where I live is quite rainy so all after the rain the dogs do get the floor dirty Because of this I absolutely needed a mop and of course vaccum for hair and carpet as well. I agree; roborock Qrevo series is pretty good; https://amzn.to/4dDP1a1 By the time I clean them after their mud fiasco the roborock is able to mop off mud and wet dirt off the floor. I can also just clean a small area that has dirt and get the robovac to the dock again and all this with the app which is super helpful. I also block some high wire areas in the app so I am guessing you can do so for your carpet if needed. I prefer it's self cleaning as it helps me use the mop or vacuum twice a day if needed too and then I just empty it out when full. Generally I am a heavy user and with that I empty the dock station every 3 days. Another reason why I choose Roborock for my main area is because with dogs, sometimes you need to replace parts ( is m too lazy to untangle if need be) so I just replace the parts and many companies make Roborock parts and are cheap so thats a plus. Again I bought this 1.5 years back, and they have Qrevo Curv[curv](https://amzn.to/43aaORB) and [Saro](https://amzn.to/3F4P8P1)s launched too which might be a good upgrade I have also used EUFY l60: https://amzn.to/4kfWGgN for my top floors but the dogs don't come there often but there is enough hair in the house to be picked up and the L60 works fine there which is vaccum only.

We have a eufy that has a hair cutter at the docking station to help deal with hair wrap. https://a.co/d/fuBRxky

I agree OP I don’t want to pay any money for something I don’t want (mopping). I bought a L60 SES which was the best rated vacuum only model I could find. Would’ve happily spent more if there were one with more/better features (vacuum only)