Eufy - S1 Pro

S1 Pro owner here since winter 2024 (nearly all hard flooring with some area rugs - it’s a great 1st gen roller mop robot w/ excellent navigation. However,it’s out-paced by the newer extending mop, heated water mopping, and improved vacuum capabilities of up-and-coming roller mop models (Narwal Flow, Dreame Aqua 10 Roller, and apparently Eufy S2 currently in beta testing). If you wait 2 months, you’re likely to see multiple extending roller mop robots in the same price range that will handle hard floor mopping well in addition to vacuuming - negating the use of a handheld vacuum.

Currently have Eufy S1 Pro for ~10 mo in a 2-story home - used mostly for all-hardwood 1st floor with several area rugs. Also debating Flow vs Dreame Aqua 10 (Roller vs Ultra Roller). Disappointed by lack of release info from Dreame (?9/1 or after). The Flow’s advantages are probably optimal pricing as well as the track mop (including accessory pack and 3yr warranty), but the comparative drawbacks are the non-removable dirty water tank, non-lifting/extending side brushes, and no “true” onboard hot water mopping. If you need sooner than later, Flow is not a bad choice for that price. The lack of non-sponsored Flow reviews doesn’t help!

The Vacuum Chef answered a question from Reddit re: a removable dirty water tank - and it was kinda glossed over as if a non-issue. I’m not sure how much I trust a non-removable dirty water tank for long term maintenance or robot viability. Dreame’s Aqua lines (Roller and Pro Track) I believe has this option. Although it’s tedious to manage on my Eufy S1 Pro, it’s still removable and cleanable.

Eufy S1 pro since you don't have pets. The mopping capabilities of s1 pro are best on wooden floors, and suction is 8000pa, which is more than enough for hardwood flooring.

I haven't seen my Eufy S1 Pro missing anything yet. I have hardwood flooring and tiles. I am getting rug sites and will see how it performs on rugs

Yes, I agree A bunch of reviews on YouTube mentioned this as well.

Eufy S1 Pro has the best mopping performance, but it has less vacuum suction compared to all the models you listed.

If you have hardwood flooring, just go with Eufy S1 Pro (mopping performance is just miles ahead than anything on the market) If you have carpet, go with Dreame X40

I have hardwood flooring in my 1200 sqft condo. Eufy S1 Pro does a phenomenal job at vacuuming, and it's best for mopping the floor. No other robot vacuum can match its mopping capabilities. It narrowly misses edge sometime that the downside

If you have hardwood flooring, get Eufy S1 Pro (best mopping device. No other vacuum is remotely close) If you have some carpets, get Dreame x40 Ultra (edge cleaning and mopping)

On hardwood flooring and tiles it's excellent I only use on 50% suction settings

Rolling mop brush seems smaller than S1 Pro The suction is the same. Battery life is 5.5 hours, which i think can't be true in real-world use. I have yet to see any real competition to S1 Pro mopping performance.

Everyone is just impressed with Eufy S1 Pro mopping performance This does even better job than my wired mopping from Bissell

In my experience, it works fine 🙂 been using it for over 6 months

1) it doesn't have suction matching Dreame x40 Ultra 2) it can't clean Conor like Dreame x40 Ultra There are some reports of water leaking. I have not seen this in Eufy. I used for over a month no water leaking noticed. This is best mopping vacuum no other robot vacuums come remotely close.

Eufy S1 Pro and S1 are the best for mopping 🙂

Eufy S1 Pro and S1 are the best for mopping 🙂

If mopping is a priority check, Eufy S1 Pro, since you have hardwood and vynal flooring it should do an excellent job at vacuuming as well. I don't have carpet, but people has mentioned Eufy S1 Pro is not that good on carpets compared to Dreame x40 Ultra which has 12000 pa suction.

I used it for 6 to 7 sessions, very few hairs on the brush. I have only used it for 6 to 7 times so far. It might depend on how much hair you have at your place. I don't have any pets, so my experience with Eufy is different

I own x40 and s1 pro Eufy has excellent support. Dreame are ok it seems sometimes they don't understand what we are trying to say. I can be wrong, but it feels like they use Google Translate to reply to emails. They have better overall product 🙂 S1 Pro is best if you don't have carpets.

Just for mopping rolling, mop is gold standard. I have Eufy S1 Pro, but much better options are available now.

Eufy has excellent customer service. They sent me replacement parts for S1 Pro and took a follow-up 2 times to make sure all was working fine. Dreame customer service sucks. I have feeling no 1 over there understand basic English or the translation app they use is joke. I was able to dispute the situation with my credit card and got a refund for $1800. Never buying that crap again. This was my 2nd X40 purchase for my parents.

Eufy s1 Omni pro has been great. It does 90% of what my Dyson v15 can do vacuuming, and it mops really well. We are very happy so far

The S1 pro has an optional plumbing kit. E25/e28 don't. Mopping is excellent although sometimes it may struggle with dried stains

Eufy S1 Pro is so good I often forget about it until its tank runs out of water. Not perfect because they never implemented Matter or whatever smart protocol. In the end, once the schedule is set, I don't need it in my Hass server.

I debated between the S1 and this for a while, but having previously used Roborock I guess I just stuck with what I knew. There isn’t physical mud piles, but definitely dirty paws quite often. I have the curv set to wash every 10 minutes and I guess I should have accounted for the significant value of the self washing roller on the S1 more intently.

Where does this fit in their lineup? New flagship or is it below the S1 Pro? I loved the S1 Pro at first but it's self-destructing pretty rapidly. Rear port is being ripped out by the connector on the base station, wheel squeak is getting worse and worse, leaks dirty water everywhere, auto empty works 80% correctly maybe 50% of the time, pauses all the time, disconnects from base station, and recently went into "standby" in the middle of a task before randomly resuming 4 hours later. Just skimming over this post and the photos, I definitely like the idea of this one better but not if it has the same quirks and design issues.

Eufy S1 pro is best for both: vacuum and mop. Tested like 10 robots and s1 pro does the job correctly, finaly!

With toddlers that likes to spill milk and other food items on the floor, I cannot see robo mops without roller working efficiently. Why do you dislike Eufy, especially the ones with roller mop, S1 Pro, E25/28?

Yes, but be careful, the S1 Pro has a force of 10N, but above all, the roller turns at 170 rpm compared to 100 for the Aqua10. Afterwards, you also have to look at the quality and abrasive efficiency of the roller itself.

Eufy S1 pro as others have said. It's the best mopping and as you have hard floor the sub par carpet performance doesn't matter. On the vacuuming front hard floors are pretty easy, a cheap robot will pick the bits up from hard floor. The eufy is going to give the best mopping performance

If mopping is your main priority, you should just look at Eufy. The spinning mops are outdated; they have only one water tank, which means they must return to the base to wash the mop. But eufy S1 Pro, E28, and E25 have two water tanks, allowing them to wash the mop while mopping, so they don’t spread dirt around. I have a UK version of E25, and I love it! It’s so much better than my previous spinning mops.

I have the Eufy S1 pro and two long hair cats that are fur factories, The Eufy is well worth the money, especially if you have hardwoods.

Go for reliability. Eufy S1 pro

Two low-pile rugs are no problem, it just can't handle long-pile carpets. If you plan to lay this type of carpet in your home, it's best to set up a no-go zone.

Eufy S1 Pro and Roborock Qrevo Master. Eufy uses a roller mop and can clean and mop the floor at the same time (ensuring the mop stays clean while cleaning). Roborock uses a spinning mop but is also excellent at removing stains. I remember Vacuum Wars had a ranking list evaluating both of them, with Eufy and Roborock being in the first and second positions. They have updates on their YouTube if you want to see more visual results.

Eufy S1 Pro not only does a great job at mopping the floor, but it also has ozone sterilization, making it more suitable for households with children and pets. And because of this feature, there won't be any odors on the mopped floor or in the dirty water tank.

If the budget is not an issue, I would highly recommend the eufy S1 Pro. It has the most powerful mopping function, making it very handy for dealing with sticky or wet messes. Check out related review videos on YouTube, and for most wet messes, it can clean it all up in one go. As for smell, I would suggest using floor cleaner to avoid any unpleasant smells. Also, because the S1 Pro uses ozone sterilization, many people have mentioned that it helps reduce the odor from the dirty water tank. Finally, maintenance. S1 Pro may require more upkeep compared to other robot vacuums, but it is worth it. And by "more maintenance" here just means checking the brushes and base station every 1-2 weeks for better cleaning.

A fully-featured robot vacuum should be enough. Given that most of the floors are tiled, there is probably nothing more suitable than the Eufy S1 Pro (always clean roller mop, double water tank on a robot vacuum). I can say with great confidence that there is no better mopping robot than this model. As for the carpeted areas, if they are long-piled, it's best to set up no-go zones to prevent it from getting stuck (regardless of the robot vacuum you choose, I recommend doing this). And if your parents are not very familiar with mobile apps, you can download one on your own phone to remotely assist them in controlling or scheduling the vacuum, it's not too much trouble.

S1 Pro didn’t have this feature at first, but Eufy later released accessories to enable it. There's a big chance that the E28/25 will be able to do this in the future as well.

One notable aspect of Eufy S1 Pro is its obstacle-avoidance technology. The cheapest robot vacuums typically don't have obstacle avoidance and navigation features, instead relying mostly on luck and bumpers, which can cause them to get tangled in cords or stuck on objects. S1 Pro, on the other hand, excels in this area with its intelligent navigation capabilities.

S1 Pro is a strong pick mainly because of its real-time washing system. If OP is interested, the new E25 also shares the same mopping system, but improves vacuuming with stronger suction and a segmented roller brush, which should be a big help in pulling pet hair out of carpets.

While roller mops are more difficult to maintain compared to spinning mops, their superior cleaning performance makes them worth it. The Eufy S1 Pro, S1, E25, Ecovacs X8, and the new X9 are all solid options. But if you want better customer support and more reliable software, Eufy is the way to go.

While roller mops are more difficult to maintain compared to spinning mops, their superior cleaning performance makes them worth it. The Eufy S1 Pro, S1, E25, Ecovacs X8, and the new X9 are all solid options. But if you want better customer support and more reliable software, Eufy is the way to go.

Roller mops, as on the S1 Pro, wipe the floor with the competition.

does the dirty water tank smell like raw sewage like my Eufy S1 Pro?

No, My mopping is set to run daily and I have no pets or kids. Floor is spotless and clean. Dirty water tank and resevore smells awful. The Eufy S1 Pro has a defective cleaning solution pump because they didn't design the bottle right and if you make a hole in the bottle so there's not a vacuum, it still puts out very little solution

so other robot mopping vacuums have a silver ion cartridge to prevent this but the Eufy doesn't? I may need to switch brands.

I liked the subscription model and the ability to upgrade at any time, but If I can get a different robot vacuum that doesn't have this problem, I gladly will 🙂

and robot vacuums with onboard water storage are not good? I'm trying to learn

i just picked up the S1 on sale, my only other pick would have been the narwhal Flow but it wont be out for quite a while. Im loving the S1 Pro!

Wow this sucks...I haven't had this experience at all, quite the opposite actually. And I have pets and a 'long haired' partner 😐 My take on the Eufy products: I have 4 x X10 (yes, 4), 1 x X9, 1 x L60 and 2 x S1 and just pulled the trigger on a C20. IMO, best obstacle avoidance in the business (Eufy makes cameras so the R&D was already there). Should the robot gets stuck it's for 2 reasons: 1. the mapping isn't done when the house is vacuum proofed (item picked up). 2. the house is messy beyond help... Regarding support, Eufy's is litterally the best in the business. Period. They've.always been quick, efficient and polite during the rare occasions where I had issues (S1 was leaving droplets after cleaning). Also Eufy sells the best 'mid-high range' and high range mops in terms of performance AND value. By this I mean that Dreame X40 is probably slightly better given it's extendable mops. But then agains its twice the price. And at a slightly lower price, the Eufy S1 blows it out the water in terms of mopping performance (X40 is significantly better at vacuuming though). The drawbacks: Vacuuming performance on carpet is Eufy's Achilles' heal for HYBRID ROBOTS. This distinction must be made because to be fair, their 'vacuum only' robots are as excellent as they are affordable. In the case of hybrids (X10, S1 and C20) it is 'ordinary at best'. It works fine - don't get me wrong - but 'fine' is as good as it's gonna get. I run multiple passes and this mostly takes care of the weaker vacuuming performance. I believe this is due to the roller itself, which is also much narrower than what the competition offers. Interestingly, the roller mop on the S1 takes *the whole width* of the robot. They should apply this design to the vacuum's roller too. That being said, Eufys are interesting as they're better than the some of their parts. And by this I mean that their excellent mopping abilities combined with their 'ok' vacuuming performance does make them *very good* over all, while providing excellent value. IMO, here's the best bang for your buck (i.e: value) with BF's discounts, in this specific irder order: 1. Eufy C20: good vacuum and mop according to reviews. MUCH cheaper by a 1000 miles, basic navigation (not the best if you have pets but will be more than enough otherwise). I also like the fact that they brought the 'hairy roller' back. Rubber rollers don't tangle as much but if you deal with short hair it should be excellent. 2. Dreame X40 Ultra (biggest discount, extendable arm and mop pads). 3. Dreame L40 Ultra (latest and greatest, same concept as the X40 without the dirt detect feature. Smaller battery, slightly lower suction but same real life performance. Navigation seems to be slightly better, although the X40 as a slight edge with object avoidance). 4. Eufy X10: Best all arounder by far. Great in corner, fantastic obstacle avoidance. Water tanks could be a tad larger and mop pads are not as 'squishy' as the X9's. I sometimes feel like it could use more water, which is something that I wasn't noticing with the now discontinued X9 (Eufy, if you're reading this, bring the X9 back at the same price as the C20 please!). 5. Eufy S1: if your primary requirement is the best mop in the business. Super quick too and unbelievably efficient with water. The X10 is significantly better in corners though and a bit better on carpet. Also the S1 requires a bit more maintenance (nothing problematic). Although I wish the base station was shorter and wider to accommodate for larger and wider water tanks. The tanks are pretty narrow and not as easy to clean, which is noticeable considering how much more grime the S1 is able to pick up compared to - well - ANY other other robot on the market today (the thing cleans the best by far. No comparison). Now, none of these robots are in the same category but we're talking *value*, not price. For unbiased info online (shocklingly hard to find), the best youtube channels IMO are "Justadad" and "Jamie Andrews". They both have amazing, non-sellsy no bullshit reviews. Good luck and let us know which bot you end up taking home :)

I have the S1 Pro. It would do a much better job then the X40 regarding mopping and have navigation that's at least as good. But the X40 as a massive edge in corner cleaning and vacuuming on carpet.

I’ve been using a Eufy S1 in a large mostly open space. It cleans great but the mapping is problematic. I tested it at my home and had the same mapping issue. While it cleaned great, the mapping is not. It is being returned and I’m trying a mova next.

The S1 was solid for about 30 cleans, then it just went nuts. Eufy said the space needed more obstacles. I tired cones places throughout. That didn’t help. If the mova doesn’t work, I’ll try roborock next

I’ve had an S1 (not pro) a few months. It cleans great. The problem has been the mapping glitching. It is being returned.

I just returned my S1 and got the mova P10 ultra pro. While I prefer a roller mop AND my thought was the extendo-arm for the sweeper and mop were not needed, they really work. Additionally having the built in camera is great for my situation.

I own the Eufy S1 Pro. I bought that to replace the Roomba j9. This robot is a step function increase over prior gens in terms of mapping and navigation fidelity. Totally nonlinear. Sometimes the fan kicks on and I wonder why it’s vacuuming, but I think the vacuum fan is the same fan that cools the onboard Nvidia GPU (it’s quiet, think computer fan). It doesn’t have small obstacle avoidance yet (planned for next year I guess). It swallowed a cat toy and I was curious what it was going to do, it backed up, popped open its little lid and regurgitated it out. My wife and I anthropomorphize it. It is smart. Other robots are millions of if statements and this is a big matrix vector product. If statements cover edge cases though. Edit: see this comment below for a more accurate look: https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/oYqCUqUYaw

Just A Dad (my favorite unbiased reviewer) recently made a video on a third party plumbing attachment for the Eufy S1 Pro: [https://youtu.be/RjohxGPkyK0?si=cowGhQQtdixsMZa\_](https://youtu.be/RjohxGPkyK0?si=cowGhQQtdixsMZa_) The S1 Pro is great at mopping and obstacle avoidance. Eufy claims tangle resistance but it's not tangle proof compared to alternatives. However, it doesn't do edge/corner cleaning and it's slim but not quite that slim. Also, the S1 Pro is perhaps the weakest at vacuuming in its price range. The Dreame X50 Master would be a good fit, except spinning mops. Unfortunately, it has not been released yet. The Dreame X50 Ultra has been released, which is exactly 3.5 inches, tangle proof, great obstacle avoidance, great edge/corner cleaning, but again standard mopping and no plumbing. Although, there is a water supply and drainage kit for the previous generation X40, so maybe the regular X50 Ultra will be supported in the future. (Also, those 3 in the picture are not the only kits available as there's the Dreame X40 Master. Spinning mops and very tall though.) There's also the Roborock Qrevo Slim, which hits all the same requirements as the X50 Ultra, while being even slimmer at 3.2 inches. Again, no rolling mop. Obstacle avoidance should be good but slightly worse than the others. I believe there are already kits available on Aliexpress for plumbing the Qrevo. Honestly the E28 is as good as any of these choices. Probably the cheapest too. Just tall and no plumbing. Extendable side brush but not mop. Or, you could reconsider how much you really need all these features. The Mova P10 Pro Ultra (not to be confused with the Mova P10 Ultra) is one of the best deals in robot vacuuming right now. It's a rebranded Dreame product, nearly identical while being much cheaper. No plumbing of course, it uses spinning mops, and it's very tall. However, it's great at everything else, especially edge cleaning, and can be upgraded to a tangle proof brush roller. Appears to be permanently on sale for $500. Just A Dad reviewed and approved its value as well. [https://us.mova.tech/products/p10-pro-ultra-robot-vacuum](https://us.mova.tech/products/p10-pro-ultra-robot-vacuum) Unfortunately, warranty/customer service is going to be very inconsistent in this market. Roborock might be the most reliable since it's the more "premium" brand, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Agree 100%. Lovin my S1P.

Have an S1Pro, it is an OK vacuum but holy jeez it mops better than I do.

I have only had mine about a week, but I 100% agree. It is working better than I had hoped. 😍

I'll agree with this, I have an S1 Pro and the things it absolutely excels at are obsticle avoidance and mopping.

On my floors it's fine. I'm pretty sure it's not the best on rugs/carpet.

Did you not test any Eufy's? Or do you really think all of those models are better than the S1 pro? Serious question, not trying to be sarcastic or anything.

I love my Eufy S1 Pro

This. I've had 6 robot vacs. Just got the Eufy S1 about a month ago...my hardwoods have never been so clean. It is expensive, but worth it.

I have the Eufy S1 pro and two long hair cats that are fur factories, The Eufy is well worth the money, especially if you have hardwoods.

Eufy S1 is fantastic on my hardwoods

I also thought so, but the mopping for the E25 and cleaning overall (highest setting), is not as good as the S1 pro

I only have hard floors and didn't compare side by side, not scientific enough. E25 probably did the corners better but that must be about it. I have a matt in the middle of the living room and the S1 Pro cleaned everything and the floor felt clean (on the lowest setting), the E25 didn't clean some crumbs all around the matt, just threw them around and didn't feel as clean. Again, I didn't make any mess on purpose to see how they clean, just my average life with kids. Which I think it tells me which one I need.

Buy both and test? That is what we did. First we got the S1 Pro, it broke within 3 days and we got the E25. Despite being better suction in paper, it was not. Our house is only hard floors, the S1 was fantastic really. The E25 would not leave things dirty but it was not as good. We returned the E25 and got a new S1 Pro. 2 kids, no pets but long hair.

Eufy S1 pro

In germany 950€ with Cashback 870€ advantage, best mop Performance rest also very good

S1 pro far more superior

All good but S1 PRO is superior.

That’s what I thought until: I have an s1 pro that worked great UNTIL a firmware update end of March - now it’s a total pain and screws up daily. I’ve had to reset it entirely to the point of removing and reinstalling the app even & replacing everything on the robot to no avail, it loses its way, stops in the middle of tasks, stops in the middle of a room for no reason, can’t dock within 2 feet of its home, battery error, skip a scheduled cleaning task, on and on. As I say, it was working GREAT until the firmware update, since it’s nothing but problems daily. I hate it now. I bought it 9/2024.

I had so many issues they finally opted to have me ship it back on their label and send me a replacement. Just got the replacement today via fedex - it was a pain to rebox the old one without the original containers, and to my surprise I got a whole brand new machine - and I notice it is just a little different than mine was - the red mesh filter part of the on board dirty water filter is wider, not a skinny nook, tho so far that’s all I’ve really noticed is different other than the card of instructions is different. Mostly same info but missing the identifying list of parts - they number the items but don’t give you the corresponding list to tell you what they are! Rather odd. It just finished mapping and the last firmware update is happening now. So we shall see if this one works as well as the original prior to the firmware that freaked it out. I sure hope so.

Stick with Eufy, it's the absolute king on smooth floors. And since you're more inclined to mop, the S1 Pro can even clean larger dog paw prints in one go.

The only real choice for mopping is the eufy s1 pro. It cleans the mop during mopping .

Absolutely love my Omni S1 Pro and Q5 Pro.

The omni is excellent at mopping and cleaning, good edge clean and obstacle detection. It’s very quiet too. The Q5 is good on carpet, much cheaper but needed it for upstairs where there’s mostly carpet. The apps good on both too. I came from a 7 year old Neato D7 that had gone senile so a bit of a jump!

After reading countless posts in this sub-reddit, we bought an Eufy S1 Pro. Our, "Bobo" is working since last Friday — and we’re already totally in love with it. From the moment we set it up, it was clear: this isn’t just another robot vacuum. It’s a quiet genius on wheels. Within minutes, it had mapped our home with eerie precision, learning every nook, every cranny, and every forgotten corner under the sofa. Watching it work feels a bit like magic — or at least like living in a slightly more futuristic version of our own home. Setting it up was a breeze. The Eufy app guided us through the process step by step — super intuitive and smooth. After connecting the robot to our Wi-Fi, the app immediately suggested a firmware update, which installed in under 5 minutes. It was reassuring to see that everything was up-to-date before the first cleaning run. From there, we could customize cleaning zones, set schedules, and even adjust suction and water levels — all with just a few taps. The mopping function is another standout feature. Instead of traditional cloth pads or oscillating elements, the S1 Pro uses a wide roller mop that spans nearly the entire width of the device. This roller applies consistent pressure (up to 1 kg) to tackle everyday dirt and even dried-on stains like coffee or ketchup with impressive efficiency. What really sets it apart is the continuous self-cleaning system: fresh water is constantly fed to the roller, while dirty water is simultaneously extracted into a separate tank. This ensures that the roller stays clean throughout the entire mopping process — so your floors are always being wiped with clean water, not just spreading dirt around. In our home, we have mostly hardwood floors and very little to no carpet, and that’s exactly where the S1 Pro truly shines. The roller mop glides smoothly across the parquet, leaving behind a spotless, evenly cleaned surface — without streaks, puddles, or missed spots. It's an ideal match for anyone with sensitive flooring who still wants that deep-clean feel every day. The suction power? Great. It picks up everything — from dust bunnies to hair — and leaves the floors looking like we just cleaned them ourselves (except we didn’t). And thanks to the auto-empty station, we barely have to think about it. It just does its job — reliably, efficiently, and without complaint. Object detection was another reason we chose the S1 Pro — and it hasn't disappointed. With two kids in the house, there’s always something on the floor: LEGO bricks, socks, toy cars, or that one lone crayon under the table. The S1 Pro handles it all with impressive care. Thanks to its advanced AI and 3D camera system, it can accurately recognize and avoid small everyday obstacles without getting stuck or dragging them around. It’s not just convenient — it’s peace of mind. We don’t have to do a pre-cleaning sweep before sending it off. It just knows what to avoid and keeps going. What we love most is how effortless it all feels. No more arguing over who’s going to vacuum, no more dragging a heavy cleaner from room to room. The Eufy S1 Pro has quietly become a part of our daily routine — and we wouldn’t want to go back. It now runs once a day, and the result is genuinely noticeable: the entire apartment just feels cleaner. There’s less dust, fewer crumbs under the table, and an overall sense of freshness we didn’t expect to achieve so easily. And if you have kids, you know the drill: sand in the hallway, muddy footprints, mashed-up bits of food under the dining table — it all adds up, every single day. But now? That "little bit of chaos" is under control. The S1 Pro takes care of it quietly and reliably, and it’s honestly hard to imagine life without it. It might sound dramatic, but it honestly feels like we’ve upgraded our quality of life with this little machine. For anyone still on the fence: do it. You won’t regret it. Buy it. https://preview.redd.it/csoq1y0ik0se1.png?width=1180&format=png&auto=webp&s=0cf90d5a9d70cea42b9d23370f67b9b39378d2cf

As I've written directly into the headline, this is just a personal review about the S1. I had an Roomba and an Ecovacs before the S1 and none of them was even close to working that smoothly than the S1. For us, it's the perfect robot and I just wanted to share my experiences.

That’s interesting as our robot is on the newest firmware and still works perfectly…

It's just a personal review about the S1. I had an Roomba and an Ecovacs before the S1 and none of them was even close to working that smoothly than the S1. Exchange of clean and dirty water sounds "bubbly" but as the base is standing far away from our living room and my office corner, that's no problem for me. Same as the dustbin emptying, which sounds like a regular vacuum indeed. Still, water and dust is working flawlessly so I'm fine with the sound.

We have an eufy S1 pro and it’s a fantastic robot. Never had any issues. As we only have wooden floors, it’s perfect.

Roughly a year and we really like it. As we have two kids, the obstacle avoidance is very useful for us. And the rolling mop is great. The only thing where we need to clean manually are the edges - thats the only weakness of the S1 imho.

I just recently bought one of these. The only reason I personally have to upgrade is even better obstacle avoidance. I don't want to have to tidy up my house at all... but with three kids <8years old I've got papers and dolls with long hair and other inconveniences that require it.

It really depends on your home. Here's my own as an example: I've got 3 kids ages 4-7. They leave shit everywhere, I need to vacuum and mop after every meal in the dining room. All of our floors are hardwood with some large low pile rugs. For this I care less about vacuum performance, and I'm focused pretty heavily on mopping. Object detection can mean the difference between the vacuum getting stuck each night or not. As a result I didn't choose vacuum wars #1 rated vacuum. I chose the 10th or so (S1 Pro) because it fits my needs perfectly. One of the best moppers and pretty solid object avoidance. I'm not saying choose the same vacuum... I'm really just sharing my personal decision making process in case it's helpful.

Oh yeah. I had a Roomba before this and it's just night and day difference. The critical reason for getting this is I want the dirty water collected not spread about. The obstacle avoidance isn't perfect. If there's some paper or ribbon on the floor it's gonna suck it up and get stuck. BUT lumps of clothes, blankets, action figures, most cables, etc all get avoided. It's the first robot I've been able to let clean my entire first floor laundry room and kitty litter mat included. On the weekends I have it clean my dining room after each meal because my three kids eat like monsters. It handles the moist food and melted ice cream like a champ. Once liquids start to dry the mop won't immediately scrub it out but if you're patient it'll be gone after a few cleanings. I have this so I can let it clean and the house will get cleaner and cleaner. So 100%. If you have any other specific questions I'm happy to answer!

Oh man. I just wasn't :D so now my house is so much cleaner Lolol. Also winter and mud was a thing and it's so nice to just be like "Hey siri tell eufy to clean the entry way." And "Hey siri tell eufy to clean the dining room." TBF it looks like many of the robots are pretty great now so you really can't go wrong. I expect this year obstacle avoidance and edge to edge mopping will get improved and I may upgrade next year or the year after.

Eufy s1 pro is doing a great job in general for us. However, it switches to vacuum mode when approaching carpet so that it cannot mop close to the door mat where we tend to kick off the dirty shoes. So that area needs a manual mopping. I tried moving the door mat but it still has memory of it being there and won’t mop. Otherwise, it’s doing a great job on both hardwood and carpet. Noise level is very reasonable. Obstacle avoidance is excellent.

If mopping is important to you, check the Eufy S1 pro. Noise level is not a problem and it reduces suction when not on carpet. Since it has a roller that it cleans as it goes, it’s a lot more effective than the spinning pads.

Sounds a lot like the Eufy S1 pro. I have the Eufy and it does an excellent job on hardwood.

If you have mostly tile or hardwood floors I would go for the eufy otherwise the qrevo curve if mostly carpet. I’ve had my s1 pro for about a month and it does great!

I picked up the eufy s1 pro. It was $500 off so it was best deal and felt that it was always the best mopping robot, and vacuum was still top tier, but just slightly less than other high priced robots on deep cleaning of carpets. For me, I have hardwood/tile in kitchen. Living room. Bathrooms. Office. Hallway, etc. I only have carpets in 4 bedrooms, 1 story house. About 2400 sq feet. I felt that since 70% of my footage was hard surface with 2 dogs (one a husky) the eufy would be best

Two is probably overkill. Depending on your budget the Eufy s1 pro appears to be the top dog for mopping performance. But there are many budget options that are good at both vacuum and mopping.

If you have a lot of hard flooring surfaces the S1 pro is the way to go. Its mop is continually cleaned with fresh water.

That sanitized water is what ends up in the dirty water tank. I notice a huge difference in smell from my previous robot without ionization. Just my opinion. I’m in love with the s1 pro.

Eufy S1 pro in my opinion, the mopping is fantastic and the ionization of the clean water tank really works to keep the robot from smelling.

Eufy s1 pro. I highly recommend the pro version because of the clean water tank ionizer. It really keeps the robot from smelling musty.

I personally was not happy with the robots that have the two spinning pads for mopping, I ended up with a Eufy S1 pro that had a roller mop and now I am in love with the mopping. I know it is quite a bit more money than the price point you’re at, but well worth it imo.

Eufy S1 pro for the win. I love this thing. I tried spinning mops before this roller mop, I wasn’t happy with any of them. The S1 is awesome at mopping and doesn’t have any funky smells if you go with the pro model that had the ionization.

Dyson Vis Nav, AEG / Electrolux RX 9.2 , UBPET V10. I am testing with Certified Test dust. Dyson 360 Vis Nav vs Eufy S1 Pro vs iRobot Combo j9+ vs UBPET V10 vs Vorwerk VR7 - Carpet Test https://youtu.be/raBVxedCf_M The AEG one is not included in this video - I have some other videos up like this Is an iRobot Roomba really the best for carpet deep cleaning?! https://youtu.be/rahVXYL7e_8

S1 Pro has the cleaning power of a regular robotvacuum. It can clean up the things you mentioned unless it's sauce spilled near the wall, which it might miss.

And S1 Pro is expected to drop in price further. If it can be bought for $999, that would be a fantastic deal.

I understand there are a lot of posts out there covering my situation of looking for the best robot vacuum / mop, but most of them recommend Eufy S1 Pro and my experience with it has been horrible due to its shitty vacuuming abilities. Most of my home is hardwood with some low pile carpet under dining table etc..but it does a very poor job vacuuming my short-hair pets hair & leaves a lot of them on the floor. So i’m looking for different recommendations for vacuum / mop that can actually remove all pet hair properly, and then mop well too. I’d say proper vacuuming is a bit more important to me than mopping. As long as the mop can remove impressions of my dog’s muddy paws, i’ll be happy.

What i mentioned above - shitty in terms of removing pet hair. No other complaints. So if you dont have pets, you’ll probably be okay :)

Mine is doing a good job on the carpet. Its actually sucking at removing pethair from the hardwood. Like i have the laser dyson as well & i don’t even need to use that to see the pet hair on the floor. Its pretty visible. And not just 1-2 hairs…a good bunch of short pet hair. I checked the filter as well & its in a good condition, but i cleaned it anyways & re-ran the cycle, and still - same results! Lots of pet hair left behind :|

I agree, I know I was getting a robovacuum. Just wasnt sure which ones. So I stop cleaning my kitchen floor. So after 3 weeks the floor was filled with dried spatter from various liquids, oil and some caked on bits. Was overall looking kinda grimy, not my best moment, but there was a purpose. Ended up buying Eufy S1 Pro. Let it run 3 trips on hard vacuum to make sure all the debris was picked up. Then set it up to deep clean mopping. First time through it got most of smaller dried up spatters off, removed some streaks and got rid of most of the grime. Second run through of deep clean it removed just about the rest of the dirt and grime. For a 100 Sq foot Kitchen with linoleum flooring. S1 Pro was able to remove 99% of the spatter, dirt, grime and streaks. There were very small stubborn stains that I was able to mop with a swiffer wet pad. The waste waster was black so grimy. So 3 hard vacuums to prep floor and 2 deep clean mops after. The S1 Pro went on a 2 hour mop roller clean and drying. The result an impressive clean mop roller. After 1 week of every other day use. I cleaned the dirty water tank, a couple hot water rinse and a paper towel wipe down. Then cleaned the on board dirty receptacle on the bot, couple hot water rinse and a paper towel wipe down. But, there is also a meshed filter for the dirty water receptacle and that was where beginnings of grime was accumulating. Couple rinse and quick brush down with utility toothbrush, got it done. A quick rinse and wipe of the base dirty water transfer plate. Overall about 6-7 minutes of manual maintenance. So for messes, dried liquid spatter, oil spatter and other dried stains. Im convinced the roller can clean most effectively with the least amount of passes. After the kitchen and other rooms are on a routine clean. I dont think the roller brush is advantageous anymore. But its nice to have knowing it will get the job done. I cant speak for other bots and how they clean but S1 Pro is considered one of the best cleaning bots and I understand why. Worth the money and I got it at a great price. Full disclosure only had the S1 Pro for a month so cant speak to its longevity. Edit: forgot tot add this was with water only no detergent. So I can imagine with detergent it wouldve had an easier more effective go at the mess

Eufy S1 cleans as well as a mopping machine.

Dreame and Narwal Freo Z Ultra are best at avoiding pet “gifts” meant only for you to enjoy. I think the best protection is offense by the robot to avoid any gifts so you’d never have to deal with an interesting new aroma wafting through the air. The Eufy S1 Pro is also good at this too but it seems this is their first model with a camera that can achieve this sort of pet gift avoidance as I haven’t seen their X10 Pro Omni model with a camera achieve this level of pet gift care.

I think the Dreame L/X40 Ultra (choose whichever is cheaper) would be a better fit for you with the TriCut brush. Best object recognition and obstacle avoidance (Narwal is similarly as good) Better vacuuming than the Narwal but not as great as the Roborock Curv (I don’t think that the price justifies its performance) The Eufy S1 pro and the Narwal Freo z are great at raw mopping performance but the Eufy can’t deal with hair well and it seems vacuuming is a bit of an issue. Dreame’s eh raw mopping is compensated by its onboard CleanGenius to help it decide whether to go over areas.

Generally: Dreame will have the best edge cleaning. This is on the x30 ultra and newer with the L/X40 ultra and newer models having an extendable side brush with the best extension algorithm right now. Mop extension lacks a spring which means it can ride up on quarter round floor moldings if your home has any. Roborock Saros 10R and the QRevo Edge/Curv are nice choices if there are no cables or pet accidents for it to eat. Narwal is a very solid option. The Freo Z ultra has the best smart cleaning mode. It’s okay taking care of things like hair and visible dust but still isn’t as good as vacuuming as it is at mopping. Eufy s1 pro is a very solid mopping option. Won’t edge clean as well as the above models but mops pretty well.

For CES 2025, I’d wait for the MOVA Z50 Ultra, Z50 Pro Ultra, and the Narwal Flow. Right now, the Eufy s1 pro is the best option for uneven floors.

MOVA P10 Pro Ultra is the best US budget choice for primarily hard floors at 659 USD. MOVA is a dreame sub brand so they share the same things but MOVA does it at a cheaper price point the same way there would be a big designer brand (dreame) and the “cheaper” budget designer subbrand (MOVA). The P10 Pro Ultra is the Dreame L40 Ultra without the mop removal function but with a larger battery. Eufy S1 Pro is good as long as it’s mainly hard floors and not a lot of hair or fur being shed as it has no inbuilt antitangle function.

The eufy S1 Pro, Narwal flow, and the MOVA Z60 Ultra/Z50 Ultra are much better at wet messes. Ecovacs has been known to suffer from a lot of issues (check Jamie Andrews’ videos about it).

Eufy s1 pro can also be considered but it really depends on the poster’s home environment.

You are too kind\~ :) The Eufy S1 Pro and the Narwal Freo Z Ultra were considered but weren't recommended as these models are better at mopping than they are at vacuuming and it seems the poster prioritizes vacuuming more.

For Eufy, I'd say only the S1 Pro is really good at obstacle avoidance. Eufy's strengths are its customer service and the good mopping in this model. It could be better for vacuuming. For Narwal, I'd say only the Freo Z Ultra is really good at obstacle avoidance. Vacuuming is a weak spot for Narwal as they focus more on mopping. For Dreame, the L/X40 Ultra would be the best at obstacle avoidance, with the X30 Ultra following it. Dreame is also a good all-rounder in cleaning but lags behind Roborock. Dreame excels with edge and corner cleaning. These three brands' models should be the leaders in obstacle avoidance.

Currently, the Eufy S1 Pro and the Narwal Freo Z Ultra's mopping performance is closest to that of a regular mop and bucket. Of course, it cannot replace manual mopping with a vacuum mop machine or a good spin mop, but it reduces the frequency of having to do so. The same goes for vacuuming. If you expect it to take care of fur + cat litter on the floor, it'll work just fine. New models, such as the MOVA Z50 Ultra and the Narwal Flow, which have a much better track-type roller mop and much better mopping, are being launched this year in the US, afaik. What do you mean by easy and minimal management of the robot? Please explain more about what you expect from your little helper so we can better understand <3 Please do share your purchasing region (usually country), your expected budget in your local currency, and your home environment\~ **Your home environment** (copied and pasted): Flooring and care requirements, if any. Is long hair and/or pet fur frequently shed at home? Do you have any pets? If so, do your pets make messes that can be cleaned up by a robot (drool, fur balls) and/or do they make messes that cannot be cleaned up by a robot (vomit/feces/pee)? Does your pet have sensitive skin? If your pet uses a litter box, do they frequently spill the litter outside the box? How much do you value privacy? Would you be okay with the robot having its own RGB camera and LED light moving around or a robot without this and only laser distance sensors (LDS) and ultrasound sensors? There is generally a trade-off between object recognition and privacy. For mopping Do you live in a region of hard or soft water? Are you planning to connect this model to a water line? For places with hard water, please appropriately treat your water before it enters the base station’s pipes\~

Roborock isn’t as good as other brands when it comes to poop avoidance. Dreame, Eufy S1 pro, and Narwal are much better at this. MOVA is a subbrand of dreame. Narwhal Freo Z ultra Narwal flow should be better for carpets though but the lack of any hair tangle measures on the mop is an issue considering how the MOVA Z50 Ultra which mops great and works great with long hair with similar poop avoidance performance has combs to help with hair tangles on the mop. Eufy also doesn’t have very good carpet cleaning and as good edge cleaning compared to the previous two An all rounder should be the dreame X50 Ultra for fur compression if there are heavy shedders or the dreame x40 ultra/ MOVA P10 Pro Ultra if the main issue is mainly just long hair.

Roller mops but not all roller mops are made the same. MOVA Z50 Ultra > Eufy S1 Pro > ecovacs X8 and any of its equivalent models > switchbot No data on ecovacs X9, Narwal Flow, and other niche robots.

Amazon did not take over iRobot. As for brands from South Korea and Germany, they’re not as good compared to those from Chinese brands especially when considering the price. Samsung does well when it comes to obstacle avoidance with their AI enabled RGB camera models but is lacking in other aspects. Miele’s robot is pretty cute and seems to clean well but it is rather old compared to new models. No idea about obstacle avoidance. App does lack features that are commonplace now. There is an American startup called Matic that makes a robot vacuum mop combo. You could ask u/matic_Mehul about this. It’s very promising. For Chinese brands: Dreame, Eufy, Narwal, MOVA (dreame subbrand), Roborock, and Xiaomi are all pretty good brands. Both have their own strengths. Eufy and Xiaomi seem to have rather consistent customer service quality. Xiaomi wins for cost effectiveness and quality. Unfortunately, they’re not selling a lot of their models in the US. Narwal is best at computer vision and obstacle avoidance for its camera enabled models allowing it to have the smartest “smart cleaning” mode. Dreame/MOVA with their camera enabled models from those that use both an IR and RGB camera and Eufy’s S1 Pro are second when it comes to obstacle avoidance. Roborock and dreame are good all rounders for both vacuuming and mopping. Dreame wins when it comes to edge and corner cleaning as it has a better algorithm. Roborock is better when extending its mop for quarter rounded floor moldings whereas dreame ones seem to ride up on there. Roborock has the easiest app UI to use.

For the floor with *just hard floors*, get the Eufy S1 Pro. For the floor with a decent amount of rugs, the MOVA P50 Pro Ultra (899) is essentially a souped up X40 Ultra!!!

For obstacle avoidance: Eufy S1 Pro, dreame models from X30 and their subbrand MOVA P10 Pro ultra, and Narwal Freo Z + any camera enabled models to be released For mop cleaning: Eufy s1 pro or Narwal models with spinning pads

After daily vacuuming then mopping, my hardwood floors became notably softer and had a shine. I’d recommend robots with roller mops or spinning mops. For roller mop robots, I’d recommend the eufy S1 (Pro), eufy E25/E28, MOVA Z50 Ultra, and the Narwal Flow. All of these robots except for the eufy E25/E28 will have good obstacle avoidance. For spinning mop robots, I’d recommend dreame/MOVA robots with the AceClean/jetspray dryboard, the Narwal Freo line with an all in one base station, the roborock qrevo line. If obstacle avoidance is important, I’d consider the Dreame L40S Pro Ultra, L/X50 Ultra and the Narwal Z/Z10 Ultra.

Out of the models I mentioned, dreame will be a better all rounder vacuum and mop combo. Narwal’s main strength is the smart cleaning and mopping. Eufy S1 Pro’s main strength is mopping. It won’t vacuum as well as a Dyson VisNav or a roomba s9+ but will get rid of fur on the carpets and hardwood for you.

I think the Narwal Freo Z Ultra is the “smartest” of them all for smart cleaning but won’t do so well for vacuuming as mopping is its key strength. The Matic seems to be rather smart too but it is US-only. Object avoidance: Dreame, eufy S1 Pro, and the Narwal Freo Z ultra will do the best. Narwal’s binocular RGB cameras mean it avoids them smoothly. Dreame’s own binocular RGB cameras on the Aqua 10 pro track show similar smoothness when avoiding obstacles. Hair and fur: Dreame and MOVA’s duostream brushes, eufy E25/E28 DuoDivide dupe brushes, roborock DuoDivide brushes, Narwal’s conical brush, > dreame TriCut brush

I remember the Eufy S1 Pro was at 1700 with great obstacle detection and a great mop. Although its vacuuming isn't the best for carpets, your home is mainly tile, and so the not-so-great carpet cleaning won't matter. I'd recommend switching the default bristle and rubber brush to the all-rubber brush as it'll be less likely to tangle fur.

All rounders: Dreame L/X40 Ultra or the upcoming X50 ultra if you want it to have the AceClean dryboard which cleans the mops much better than the previous mop washboard on the L/X40 Ultra. MOVA P50 Pro Ultra which also has the AceClean dryboard (only in the EU), MOVA P10 Pro Ultra that is essentially the L40 Ultra without mop removal (seems to be limited to NA markets). For these dreame and MOVA models, use the anti-tangling TriCut brush. It either comes with it or you’ll have to get it from Taobao or AliExpress. Mopping experts: Narwal Freo Z Ultra for the best smart cleaning mode and best computer vision and obstacle avoidance, or the Freo x ultra if you’re fine without the computer vision and smart cleaning. Vacuuming is a bit weak. Upcoming: MOVA Z50 Ultra and Narwal Flow (both track type roller mops), Narwal Freo Z10 (spinning mops that can extend and swing extended mops like dreame) Eufy S1 Pro mops great but vacuuming could be better. Can’t edge or corner clean. Roborock’s side brush and mop extension algorithm could be improved in comparison to Dreame’s side brush and mop extension and NarWal’s mop extension. It can’t swing the extended mop to reach under places like your fridge. Obstacle avoidance is sadly lagging behind. But there is the Saros 10R.

Vacuuming: dreame (bristle brush) and Roborock Great obstacle avoidance: Eufy s1 pro (you can consider this one too even though it uses a roller mop as it also mops well), dreame models from X30 Ultra (MOVA P10 Pro Ultra as it is a subbrand), and Narwal Freo Z Ultra These are the only ones I know that are very cord free with obstacle avoidance. Roborock is behind in obstacle avoidance. Remop and clean mop pads again if needed: same dreame/mova models as before and the Narwal Freo Z ultra For uneven tiles, I recommend you wait for the upcoming dreame X50 Ultra as their mop holders can tilt by 5° for uneven flooring. You can further enhance the mopping by using plusher mop pads like Narwal or Roborock’s. I also recommend waiting for CES 2025 to finish as new models by these brands will be announced there! Dreame will also have a new robot with a roller mop that will be even better than their subbrand MOVA’s Z5 which is currently the best mopping robot on the market which uses a crawling mop.

S1 is better than the X8

Best vacuum will be the s8 MaxV ultra (won’t have as great obstacle avoidance compared to its eufy and dreame friends but the dual rubber brush does great for agitation). For mopping, the s1 wins out of the ones you listed. There are also interesting new roller mop Robots on the market or will soon come to the market though.

Don't miss out on the Eufy S1 Pro! That roller mop is light years ahead of the spinny mops. Adding in the auto plumb system makes it basically hands free.

My S1 pro sorta does what you are saying. The E28 does a pretty good boxing around the carpets and you can have it vacuum the carpets first as it knows where they are. Definitely an improvement on the S1 Pro and probably better then the roborocks.

Right on! I also have 2 S1 Pros and 1 S1. Very similar mopping and I think the AI based navigation does a better job with edge cleaning on the S1/E28 compared to S1 Pro. Your metal filter handles will rust if you have used harsh chemicals in cleaning. They are also supposed to be replaced. You should reach out to support and request replacements due to the rusting. Eufy is normally pretty fair and nice with these replacements. 

Right on! I also have 2 S1 Pros and 1 S1. Very similar mopping and I think the AI based navigation does a better job with edge cleaning on the S1/E28 compared to S1 Pro. Your metal filter handles will rust if you have used harsh chemicals in cleaning. They are also supposed to be replaced. You should reach out to support and request replacements due to the rusting. Eufy is normally pretty fair and nice with these replacements. 

I currently have 3 S1/S1 Pro and have never noticed any corners collecting dust/debris. Obviously the E28 is a significant upgrade compared, I do enjoy seeing the little side brush swing out.

Very similar to the S1 series. It almost rubs the baseboards.

I would highly recommend the E25 or S1. Both have amazing mopping abilities and if you have some carpet the E25 is now a master of carpet. I would not recommend the X8 or X10. This is coming from an extreme user with 3 S1s and 1 E28.

Honestly if you have a majority of hardwood then you should definitely get the champ of mopping. Eufy S1, S1 pro, E25 and E28 are all amazing robots. Doesn't matter how your home is laid out, they have very advanced recognition systems. Skip the spinny mops and vibration mops. A continuously self cleaned roller is brilliant and Eufy currently is the champ in the regards.

Honestly if you have a majority of hardwood then you should definitely get the champ of mopping. Eufy S1, S1 pro, E25 and E28 are all amazing robots. Doesn't matter how your home is laid out, they have very advanced recognition systems. Skip the spinny mops and vibration mops. A continuously self cleaned roller is brilliant and Eufy currently is the champ in the regards.

Who would buy this? The Eufy S1 or E25 is significantly better.

The eufy Omni S1 Pro is currently €899 in Europe and has less mop pressure.

Eufy Omni S1 Pro, E25, and E28 have a roller mop. Eufy X10 Pro Omni and Clean L50 (the ones he listed) don't. Ecovacs Deebot T80, X8, and X9 and Mova Z50 and Z60 also have a roller mop.

that is my logic here too. I think object avoidance is the top priority feature, second by cleaning efficiency, that is why just ordered the Eufy S1 Pro.

Yeah like their s1 pro model. But doesn't heat the water when it washes the pads.

would be a deal breaker for me after already having hot water washing on the one I have.

eufy s1 pro when it's on sale, eufy e28 if you need a spot cleaner, eufy e25 if you only need smth great to mop your place.

I know you don’t wanna hear more about the S1 pro, but I also have pets and a long-haired wife with hardwood floors and I walked behind the robot vacuum with the Dyson’s green laser (highlights hair and dust) and barely saw any hair left behind after its passing. I didn’t test that on carpets since I barely have any on the main floor. A clogged filter could significantly impact suction, just saying.

Second that, or wait several months for the new robots with rolling mops. I wouldn’t buy anything with spinning mops

Snagged the Eufy S1 pro for $700 using their discounted gift cards 😊 Can’t wait to finally have clean floors

You won’t find good obstacle avoidance at that budget. You’ll need a flagship robot to do so and those are expensive. I have the Eufy S1 , it never gets stuck.

Pro

All high end robot vacuums now have auto-return from charging so they will clean any space as long as it’s accessible. I would go with ones that have bigger batteries just to be more efficient with your large house, then depends on your floor types. If most of your floors are hard then Eufy S1 pro for best mopping and care free obstacle avoidance, if you have a mix of carpets and hard floors then Roborock Curv. Don’t get the Narwal, it doesn’t have an onboard water tank so it goes through a lot of water from the base, with big surface areas you’ll need to refill the water mid-clean and also returning to base frequently to clean the mop will lose battery faster given ur bigger space/house.

So I got the s1 pro a week ago. First robot vac. House is me, my wife with long black hair, a golden retriever and a short haired dog. The floor where I run it is mostly hardwood , about 1700 sqft with 3-4 low to medium pile rugs. My first impressions are: the hardwood floor performance is amazing and the mop is incredible. I walk barefoot in the house now because it’s so clean. On carpets it’s not as good. As an anecdotal example. I used my upright vacuum today (exactly 1 week from when I got the robo vac). Every carpet has been cleaned once a day with the robo vac. When I vacuumed the carpets today I would say there was maybe 1/4 to 1/5 the hair that is normally on the rug when I vacuumed everyday with the upright. So is it perfect on carpets? No, but still good for everyday vacuuming. The base station, the app and the obstacle avoidance has been great. No issues at all. It goes under almost all my furniture, dressers and beds which is really nice. The last con is the corner cleaning. It has no extendable mop or side brush so it can’t get the corners. I’ve heard good things about the customer support but haven’t had to use it yet so can’t speak to that. All in all I really like it. I wasn’t sure if I would so I’m currently renting it from Eufy for a monthly fee. I’ll either keep doing that until the s2 comes out (def want to keep the rollermop) or until something like the narwal flow comes out that has the rollermop and the corner capability. If you have anymore questions about it, let me know and I’ll try to answer them. Hope this helps!

I second the S1 pro. I have one and it’s been working great. With kids and dogs you’ll need to do weekly maintenance (clean out the brushes and dirty water tank. But it’s low enough to get under a lot of funiture. Ultimately with dogs and and kids I would 100% recommend a roller mop because they clean the mop as they go. The spinning mops trap the dirt and then smear it until they can clean them at the base station. As my wife says “our kids play on that floor, it better be clean” and with 2 dogs over 65lbs (one being a golden retriever) in a wetter climate, the roller mop has been a god send. My wife even walks barefoot in the mornings now (she has always worn inside shoes while inside) because the S1 pro leaves our floors so clean when it runs every night when we’re in bed. The biggest cons with it for me are no real edge cleaning (no extending mop or side brushes) and meh carpet preformance. I still vacuum the rugs with an upright twice a month and it picks up less hair than I would get from vacuuming the rugs daily so even “meh” is pretty good.

The app is good from what I’ve seen. Only had the S1 pro so can’t compare first hand but from what I hear other apps (roborock, dreame, narwal maybe) have more depth to their apps. More options and customization, but the Eufy app has all the basics. I personally would like more customization and options but I’m sure not everyone feels that way.

What’s your floor type and budget? I’m using the s1 pro right now and love it for the mooping but the hair and edge cleaning is lacking. Personally I’m waiting for a roller mop that has all the features it should like extending side brush and roller mop/ wet spill detection and good anti tangling. Yeedi and ecovacs have some but their app and obstacle avoidance isn’t the best. I’m personally waiting for something like the narwal flow, mova z60 (I believe that one has a roller) or a dreame or roborock equivalent. Having dogs that track stuff in the rollermop was a must and has not disappointed.

Same boat, the flow is getting panned across the board which sucks because that’s what I wanted. There was a survey that got floated around the eufy discord about the s2 and it looked great. I wouldn’t expect it until probably late this year or early next year at the earliest. Possibly longer. As there isn’t really any news on it so it’s probably still in design. Since a robo vac isn’t out with all the stuff I wanted I’m currently renting the s1 pro from eufy and I really like it. It’s not the most cost effective strategy but it makes it easier to wait if needed lol.

😢 that’s the one I have and I love it, but no edge cleaning and the anti tangle isn’t the best. I have to clean it weekly. To detangle and clean the dirty water tank. Don’t think it’s what you’re looking for.

Roller mop > spinning mop > vibrating mop. Vibrating mops lack edge cleaning and usually can’t hold as much dirt. Spinning pads can clean edges well, but they clean by spinning and trapping dirt then going back to the base station to clean the dirt before going back out and trapping more dirt. Roller mops have a clean and dirty water tank and is continually adding clean water water and scrapping off dirty water into the dirty water tank. They are hands down the best for mopping but are still newer and there are less models available currently with more coming. As for rollermop suggestions, the Eufy S1 pro is great. The E28/25 is now out though and has the same rollermop design but better edge cleansing. Narwal and Mova are releasing new ones this year with the Flow supposedly coming out in June. For 1k i would stay away from ecovacs and Yeedi. Too many issues with hardware and software with iffy support. You can do better for 1k. This is a personal opinion bur 1k for a vibra mop should be illegal lol.

Better spot cleaning. There has to be a better way for me to have the robot clean a certain spill/ or mess without going into the app and making a square manually lol. Also a track mop in a robot as short as the saros 10/10R. I would spend an obscene amount of money for something like that lol. Also better mopping. It’s great now with the s1 pro (and if the aqua 10 pro lives up to the hype I’ll get that and that should be awesome).But with dogs I always want better at dried on spots.

Oh man, sorry to hear, I have the Eufy S1 and it does a pretty good job at getting under things and not getting stuck. But I do believe it is now overpriced for what you get. If clearance is your #1 priority, then I would look at the Roborock Qrevo slim or the Saros 10R (newer version) as they are the slimmest I know of at 3.14 inches. One thing I would definitely do is measure furniture (tables, chairs, end tables, dressers, buffets) and see what height you need and go from there. Some things might require risers if you want to get under everything. I had to do that but now the only place the golden retriever hair can hide is under one couch lol.

I would second the E25/28. I have the s1 pro which is the same company with the same roller mop and it works great. They improved the corner cleaning, carpet performance and anti tangle. The rollermop constantly applies clean water to the roller and scraps off the dirty water in real time onto an onboard dirty water tank. So you could even mop up pee accidents if you wanted (not sure I would but they are the best for wet spills). The spinning mops just smear the mess into their pads, then go back to the station to clean then goes and smears some more. When my wife and I were looking her each words were along the lines of “our children crawl on this floor, you better not be smearing dirt our our floor” and thus we got the roller mop and it’s been great (2 dogs, goldens and long haired people).

I am most excited about Freo Z, but its customer service seems to be poor, so waiting for a Costco sale. Master apparently still struggles with avoiding cables and socks, which is not acceptable at this price point (and it has a small dustbin). I am avoiding Dreame due to poor customer service, otherwise it seems to cover everything. Eufy has great customer service (I returned two X10s and got immediate refund), but the product QC is hit and miss. S1 has great reviews for mopping and object avoidance, but might not be the most reliable.

We just got a Eufy S1 Pro. Unlike the Eufy X10 that we had before, it has a roller mop that's actually capable of soaking up wet messes. I poured a big puddle of tomato sauce on the floor to test it out, and it just sucked it all up. Also seems to be better at avoiding objects that could jam the brushes. According to reviews I watched before purchasing, it's pretty much the best on the market for hard floors (we also have no carpet in our house). Our floors are consistently very clean, and we have three sloppy kids plus two dogs that shed a lot.

Considering your house is mostly hard floors, the s1 pro is a good choice however it struggles if you have carpet. If you have a mix of carpet and hard floors, I recommend the Dreame X40/L40 as it has significantly better carpet performance and edge cleaning due to the extending side brush. While the S1 pro has very impressive mopping, running a spinning mop style robot on a schedule will keep your floors as clean but one large benefit of the roller mops design in the S1 pro is that it is less likely to trap debris and scratch your floors.

Skip Roborock if you want good obstacle avoidance. Their robots are mediocre at it compared to Dreame and the S1 pro. Get the Mova P10 pro ultra, it's basically a Dreame x40 with a smaller battery and missing the ability to leave the mop pads at the base station. It's obstacle avoidance is just as good and it's $679 on Amazon right now. I have two Dreame X40s, great vacuums, never get stuck on obstacles or eat cords/cat toys. Cleans my house well and does a good job getting embedded dust out of my carpets and debris off my hard floors. The Mova P10 pro ultra is basically going to be the same but at a much lower price (Mova is a sister/subbrand of Dreame) I had a QRevo slim and it was horrible at obstacle avoidance. Cleaned as well as the Dreame X40 but it would eat cords and socks and felt like the obstacle avoidance is useless. I bought the slim since it supposedly has the best obstacle avoidance of the Roborocks but it just isn't consistent or reliable to trust running it on a schedule. I want a robovac that I can run on a schedule without having to prep my home. The S1 pro is a good robot if you have hard floors only, but it's vacuum performance is bad compared to the Dreame and roborock. Most of the debris will be picked up by the spinning mop and end up in the mop filter and not the dust bin. It also lags bending on carpet performance versus Dreame and roborock and doesn't have an extending side brush.

Dreame l10S or l20 if you are trying to save money Dreame x30 if you have a little more money to spend Dreame X40/L40 if you want the best. If you only have hardfloors, the Eufy S1 pro I also like the QRevo Slim if you want something from Roborock but I am disappointed with its Object avoidance capabilities when compared to Dreame and Eufy. Roborock in general is quite trash at obstacle avoidance and it makes it hard for me to trust their vacuums to run on a schedule without having to babysit them but their hardware is solid and reliable. Skip the Eufy x10 that so many shills like. It's got a lot of features that look good but in reality they aren't very well implemented. I had two of them and Eufy partially refunded me for both of them due to my experience with them. Good customer support, but a bad vacuum design that struggles to pick up anything on hardfloors. For the same money I would get a Dreame l10S or L20 instead. I posted my full review here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/AVD9Ph2eHK

Eufy s1 pro Why are you changing from the X40 it's also one of the best.

Yeah it's the best robot mop on the market right now but it struggles when it comes to vacuuming compared to the competition like the Dreame X40. Also the mopping ability of the s1 pro is a bit overrated as most reviews should it mopping up huge messes which most people aren't doing on a daily basis and running a Dreame X40 or roborock Qrevo on a schedule would keep your floors just as clean but give you better vacuum performance.

I've tried both and kept the Dreame X40 for similar reasons. Roborock is just bad at obstacle avoidance. I have two x40s and they have been working great for the past 5 months other than some minor hiccups. Their regular customer support really sucks but I've had really good luck contacting one of their support reps, Russell on Whatsapp. He's helped me update my X40 and recalibrate the LDS. If you want to avoid Dreame and Roborock try the Eufy s1 pro. Since you have hard floors mostly, it would be a good choice. Eufy's customer support is better than Dreame and Roborock but their robots are a little worse when it comes to carpet performance.

Get the Dreame X40 certified refurb. https://www.ebay.com/itm/356133310411 It's 879 right now on eBay through Dreame store. I have two of them and they are basically brand new and have a 2 year warranty versus a 1 year warranty when purchased brand new.. It is the best robot when it comes to obstacle avoidance. It has all the features you would want with extending side brush to clean edges and corners and good mopping and vacuum performance. I run mine daily on a schedule and they never get stuck and do a great job cleaning my carpets and hard floors. Each vacuum can clean each of my floors on max suction ~750sqft without having to stop and charge and each finishes in around 1-1.5 hours. I also have a Roborock QRevo slim that is just as good when it comes to cleaning other than corners but its obstacle avoidance is atrocious and it eats cords and cat toys and runs into things that the Dreame is great at avoiding. Most reviewers like Vacuum Wars tests obstacle avoidance only on hard floors which is the easiest surface for obstacle avoidance, on carpet most Roborocks just fall flat and eat everything. Nevertheless, I'm boxing up my QRevo slim right now and returning it as Roborock's obstacle avoidance just isn't good and it's side brush extension behavior was lacking with it rarely extending to clean corners and when it did extend, it doesn't do as good of a job as the dreame Right now it seems like Dreame has the least compromises when it comes to vacuum performance. They clean well, avoid obstacles well, mop well and have good app features Roborock main vacuum motor hardware and brush hardware works well but their side brush behavior and hardware aren't so good and their obstacle avoidance is far behind the competition. Eufy has good obstacle avoidance, and great mopping performance with the Eufy s1 but their vacuum pickup performance is lacking behind Dreame and roborock and their app is very lacking in features and smart home integration.

The eufy x10 is trash at actually vacuuming debris: https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/aP3N1VO5Tt The only thing it deserves an award for is best object avoidance for the money. I would say the best would be the QRevo Slim for carpet/hardwood and Dreame X40 if you only have hard floors. The eufy s1 pro is overrated and has the same suction issues as the x10. It has the best mop, but how often are you actually mopping up giant messes every day with your robot vacuum. Running a reliable robot vacuum with a spinning mop system will do as good on a schedule. The eufy vacuums also lack lots of app and smart home integration features like setting the floor grain direction, setting the location of ramps the robot can use and other smart features that roborock and Dreame have in their apps that Eufy is lacking.

Dreame x40/L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. Dreame/Mova have the best object avoidance on the market currently along with having top notch cleaning performance. I run my X40s daily on a schedule and they never get stuck on cords or cat toys. The QRevo slim I also ordered to compare my X40 again would basically always eat a cord, sock or cat toy when running so I couldn't trust it to run on a schedule and returned it. Roborock in general has top notch cleaning performance but horrible object avoidance and I would not recommend roborock for that reason Eufy has pretty good object avoidance, especially in the S1 pro but the common issue with Eufy's products is that they underperform when it comes to vacuum performance. They fail to pick up debris on hard floors and carpets. And perform worse than Dreame/roborock.

Since you don't have carpet look at the Eufy s1, e25/e28. The s1 obstacle avoidance is pretty good and it's the best performer for hard floors. Dreame and Mova have the best object avoidance in the market but won't perform as well as the Eufy on hard floors. Dreame/Mova would be a good choice if you had mixed flooring as they do better on carpets than Eufy.

Your tool needs updating since it seems to put the Eufy products at the top of the list all the time even though both the s1 and X10 are mediocre when it comes to hair tangling. Also the Eufy x10 is overall a mediocre performer, looks good on paper but does not perform well at all. https://www.rtings.com/robot-vacuum/reviews/eufy/x10-pro-omni For some reason your tool ranks it near the top for basically every category even though it has significantly worse object avoidance than than the Dreame x40 and L40, and Worse carpet performance than Roborock's s8 max v and curv.

Eufy S1 Pro. It's just amazing and has some essential features that very few other models have - making ozone in water tank (killing all bacterias, so you don't need to buy distilled water and even disinfects floors, dirty water tank doesn't smell afterwards). Rolling mop is the only moping solution I'd ever consider (no dirt pushing, always clean mop). Before I got it I was worried about long hair tangling, but it doesn't tangle at all. Much more compact base than most of other units. The only thing I'd like it to have is direct water in/out connection to house sewage, but it's really not that important due to ozone.

Bit the bullet and bought our first robot cleaner a eufy s1 pro $1700aud last Sunday took it back Monday they swapped it and the new one doesn't work either I'll be onto my 3rd in less than a week! Pray for me 😄

Of your list, I'd recommend the S1 Pro for sure if obstacle avoidance is high in your criteria.

I have similar type of flooring and the Eufy S1 pro is serving me well so far.

I have tried both the eufy s1 pro with the roller mops and the saros 10r. No doubt about it the rollers work better. They left the floor very evenly wet and constantly used clean water vs just using the mop then washing etc. but, roller mops have wayyyyy more maintenance. Looked at how gross the dirty water talk onboard the eufy was after a few weeks and decided I didn’t want to have to constantly clean that. The saros 10r vacuums well and mops “good enough”’with the spinning heads.

Just understand there is no maintenance free vacuums or mops. You can delay touching it for a couple of weeks but it will probably need at least some minor maintenance before the major clean and resupply. I think your uncle using the app and helping out would be ideal. I have no clue who offers Chinese support but most of these are made in China so there may be Chinese forums that can help out or maybe you can talk directly to the company. You didn't mention if their floors are tile, laminate, wood, or carpet as that would dictate my recommendations. But I am currently impressed with Eufy S1 Pro for superior mopping. the Eufy X10 Pro Omni for superior carpet and avoidance, and the Movo P10 Pro Ultra for good all around performance. Keep in mind I don't think any robot vac can totally replace a good plug in vac on carpet. || || ||

Just understand there is no maintenance free vacuums or mops. You can delay touching it for a couple of weeks but it will probably need at least some minor maintenance before the major clean and resupply. I think your uncle using the app and helping out would be ideal. I have no clue who offers Chinese support but most of these are made in China so there may be Chinese forums that can help out or maybe you can talk directly to the company. You didn't mention if their floors are tile, laminate, wood, or carpet as that would dictate my recommendations. But I am currently impressed with Eufy S1 Pro for superior mopping. the Eufy X10 Pro Omni for superior carpet and avoidance, and the Movo P10 Pro Ultra for good all around performance. Keep in mind I don't think any robot vac can totally replace a good plug in vac on carpet.

The Roomba S9 is an incredible vacuum and very good with lots of hair on both hardfloor and carpet. I recently swapped to a Eufy S1 Pro for the mopping as my boy drags in lots of dirt from outside. The Eufy is an incredible mop but needs to vacuum much more frequently Vs the Roomba to keep on top of the dog hair.

Yeah I do miss mine. It does an incredible job of getting into corners and pulling hair out of rugs and as you said the base station does very well storing/compacting the hair to get the most out of a bag. The S1 Pro isn't as good so I have to run it every day in turbo mode to stop the buildup where the S9 could handle every other day.

Eufy S1 pro is a good vac and great mop but bad at integrations. Home Assistant: Zero integration Alexa: Can start whole home cleaning and stop cleaning but thats it. Apple/Siri: Can create shortcuts to mop / vacuum and clean by room which is great but those commands living in shortcuts is limiting. I have homekit monitor for motion and send requests to clean empty rooms but that requires my phone to be unlocked. I think I could make it more autonomous with an ipad or old phone at home always on and unlocked but i dont love that either.

I have a golden retriever with unlimited hair. It’ll be fine. Just take out the roller mop every few months and remove the fur

How long have you had it? That sounds like a lot. The red water filter is what I need to do first (muddy paw prints)

For hardwood floors go with one that has a roller mop imo, excellent cleaning performance and no risk of scratching the wood with regular mop pads. The S1 Pro has been excellent with my hardwood floors and I’d recommend you wait for the S2.

Wait for the S2, the S1 pro has been the most reliable mopping vacuum I’ve ever had and the S2 will make it much better

I’ve had the S1 Pro for a year now, zero issues. I don’t have the E25 to compare, but I can tell you that the S1 Pro navigates very confidently, makes my hardwood floors reflect light cause of how clean they are, and never gets stuck in obstacles (Have 2 kids and a cat). I can confirm that the Ozone generator WORKS, my dirty water tank always smells like pool water and never stinks. I know cause I have Dreames and Roborocks too. I maintain it every 2 weeks on the dot, never miss maintenance, which is super important for those robots with rolling mops. If you have the money and not in a rush, wait for the S2 which will supposedly improve an already excellent robot. Also it aesthetically looks beautiful and high end. https://preview.redd.it/19lsam5b22lf1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db0fd3030e07c0cfe867bc8b17e9450288945252

It depends on your house’s set-up, none of the robots got it all. I have Eufy, Roborock, and Dreame: - Eufy S1 pro has been the most reliable mopping robot for my mostly hardwood floor. Excellent mopping performance, excellent object avoidance, and very reliable (does its job every night with zero issues). People underestimate the advantage of the ozone sterilizer in the station, never had a bad smell. Older model so goes on discount often, but superior to newer models is what I heard. - Roborock q5 max+ is a carpet beast, I use it for my upper floor that is mostly carpeted. Excellent suction at a low price point, never has hair wraps, very reliable. Non existent object avoidance (you will have to clean up before it cleans) and no mopping capability - Dreame L40, lots of tech at a lower price point when it’s on a <$500 deal. Excellent object avoidance and good coverage. Its carpet performance is subpar and its mopping performance is no match for the S1 pro. It’s too smart for its own good and navigation + efficiency suffer as a result. Dirty water tank smells like death all the time. This is my newest addition and I’ll be returning it possible for a L50 during the next black friday etc.. With all of those robots, if you maintain them they’ll last. None are set it and forget it for long periods. Bottom line in my opinion: Eufy for reliability and mopping performance, Roborock for reiability and carpet/suction performance, Dreame for object avoidance

Eufy’s S1 pro was known for its subpar carpet performance, that’s why I’m only using it for my hardwood floors. All higher end robots have good hard floor suction. My opinion is don’t cheap out cause you’ll get what you pay for, I’d rather pay more for a higher end robot that lasts years and is future proof than have to deal with issues.

The Eufy is genuinely worth considering even if it has more maintenance. Its performance is just so good for mopping compared to the rest. Like FarConcern said, Freo Z is probably a great option here. IMO I'd avoid the Freo X, it does not seem like a great option at all. The curv is good for your needs, but you said the price difference is not worth it. Do you have a budget in mind at all?

I had the Eufy S1 Pro for three weeks about 10 months ago but ended up returning it because it didn't clean the edges of the kitchen cabinets well at all as they were too low the the S1 to get to and some other corners and edges of the house. This is the only map I have left of the main floor. https://preview.redd.it/vqtk8priqc5f1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71471de937ac40d8db58e495249b4f5b416a18a5 I'm not sure how big the space is but I'd guess it's about 1500 sq. ft more or less, 99% of the house is either hardwood or tile, there are a few obstacles every now and then since I have a dog and a cat, there is a \~4 cm threshold for the bathroom at the hallway that the S1 couldn't make it without manually helping it, and what I care about the most is the robot's mopping performance and edge cleaning the the S1 Pro lacked.

Eufy s1 pro. Godly mop and vac

Our S1 Pro has been life changing. All hardwoods and tile, so really the best use case to get the most out of the model.

Seems like a problem with the vacuum/auto empty vs expecting too much. We have 1 dog who sheds like crazy and a toddler and a Eufy S1 Pro that runs upstairs nearly daily (since it's mostly hardwood) and a Eufy L60 with the self empty station that runs downstairs (which is mostly carpet) nearly daily and I don't see an issue like this and it keeps the house overall in great shape. I've been really impressed with how the L60 performs overall and keeps the hair tangle at bay. As others have suggested I'd contact the company because this seems defective to me. What you're describing sounds like exactly what these robot vacuums are for!

i dont think eufy will fail in avoidance. s1 pro and x10 have proven it 🤔

Vacuum wars is the real deal, pretty sure I watch every video (nerd alert). They also have a video for every vacuum that compares it to others in its range. So I recommend checking them out based on your specific home and wants. Imo eufy has the best obstacle avoidance at the moment especially on the s1 pro, it's amazing. I would recommend the eufy s1 pro or the e25 (e28 if you also wanted a portable carpet cleaner). Roller mop is a game changer and far superior, if buying new don't get one with spinning pads. Edit: I personally own the eufy s1 and the eufy x10. Love them both and wouldn't hesitate to buy them again. Most hard floors with some large rugs in my home.

Vacuum wars is the real deal, pretty sure I watch every video (nerd alert). They also have a video for every vacuum that compares it to others in its range. So I recommend checking them out based on your specific home and wants. Imo eufy has the best obstacle avoidance at the moment especially on the s1 pro, it's amazing. I would recommend the eufy s1 pro or the e25 (e28 if you also wanted a portable carpet cleaner). Roller mop is a game changer and far superior, if buying new don't get one with spinning pads. Edit: I personally own the eufy s1 and the eufy x10. Love them both and wouldn't hesitate to buy them again. Most hard floors with some large rugs in my home.

I've had S1 Pro and enjoyed it for a long time. The roller mop is working great, so I want something similar for the second floor.

I was the tester that did our review of the Eufy S1 Pro, and while it didn't do the best on carpet, it'll still get the job done if you only have hard floors. I know the amount of choice and difference in reviewer's opinions/results can be overwhelming, but it doesn't have to be a super stressful decision. The reality is that robot vacuums are really just meant for day to day maintenance, which a lot of them are good at. When I recommend to friends and family, I usually try and find the best deal at the time of them asking, while avoiding a few specific robots. My most recommended robot to people I know is the Dreame L10s Ultra, just because there's always flash sales where's it at a ridiculously low price that it's a no-brainer, even though it's not our best scoring. Our tests are designed to push robots to their limits with a large amount of debris in a small space. For performance, I'd look more into what debris types the robot struggles with and if that applies to you. For example, the Dreame X50 struggled with finer debris, and I've seen a few people complain about that on this subreddit. If you want, you can let me know your specific needs outside of obstacle avoidance (floor types, ideal budget, app features, etc) and I can find a robot vacuum that I think would be best suited for you! No pressure tho, and my recommendation will not be dependent on you going to our website and clicking an affiliate link. Hope this helps!

My main point is that if you’re not going to use it every day, the mid-range models might offer the best value rather than splurging on extra tech that you may never use. I went through a similar decision when I moved into my large apartment with mostly hard floors. I played with the Eufy Omni S1 Pro and a couple of Dreame models, trying to balance scheduling features with solid cleaning performance. I’ve tried Roborock and Dreame before, but ConsumerRating helped me decide when comparing their strengths for scheduled cleaning. My main point is that pricey models may have fancy extras, but they might not be worth it for your setup.

We are proud owners of two very hairy Labradors. I’ve had two Dreame L20 ultra units in the last 12 months and both had the same issue of not emptying the collection box so it was remaining jammed full of dog hair. The second unit is now back with Dreame who have promised to replace it with a new unit (their customer support in the UK is seriously lacking. I had to fight every step of the way and it took over 3 weeks just to get a returns number from them. I personally found the rest of the unit good, but would never buy another Dreame machine because of their lack of customer support) Literally ordered the new Eufy S1 pro which has arrived today but I’ve not had time to unpack it yet. You mentioned above that you didn’t know the brand Eufy, they are a division of Anker (high quality chargers etc) so I have every confidence the build quality will be good.

A quick update as promised about my findings with the Eufy pro s1. Quality of build between the Dreame and this is night and day. The Eufy is built extremely well. To keep it short. Every review you watch or read about the s1 pro is right. Mopping is excellent, the vacuum needs more thought in the design department and personally I think it needs more power (maybe up to the 10k some competition has) and it would benefit from a tricut brush. Apart from that. Eufy is a keeper and we will be selling the new L20 ultra when it returns.

I'm wondering if your unit has a problem. I have a S1 Pro, and have not had problems with its hard floor vacuuming at all. In particular, that you can run it twice, checking the filter and dustbin in between, and still have it leave a lot behind -- that seems like you got a bad unit. That said, if you value vacuuming more than mopping, the S1 Pro is probably not the best choice even when working properly. If you're still in the return window, I recommend cutting your losses and moving to something else. If you can delay your new purchase a little, you might look at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) coverage. There are some very interesting new models coming very soon, one of which might be way better for you than what's available now.

I find that the Vacuum Wars ranking isn't nearly as useful as the detailed reviews. The ranking treats all features equally, but if you're like me, you have specific requirements and preferences that a simple ranking won't take into account -- even without considering that the Vacuum Wars guy has biases of his own. (Not a slam; everyone has biases.) In particular, there are two things about the S1 Pro that affect its Vacuum Wars ranking: * Carpet performance. According to them, it's not as good at carpet vacuuming as many other models. * Pet features and performance. Their new pet testing seems to favor pet features such as video feeds and pet finders, which the S1 Pro doesn't have, and they also ding the S1 Pro for hair tangling. I have a S1 Pro, and I can partially concur with the details they provide, while disagreeing with the ranking, largely because my main goal with a robovac is hands-off maintenance of hard floors. I have no carpets on my first floor, and also have a non-shedding pet. To me, top-notch obstacle avoidance and mop performance are the top two requirements. In those two areas, the S1 Pro excels. Vacuum Wars ranks it #2 on their obstacle avoidance list, just a bit below the Narwal Freo Z. I have no experience with the Narwal, but I can tell you that the S1 Pro is excellent at obstacle avoidance, to the point that I am confident scheduling it to run at 2 am unattended, and have so far not regretted that decision. Mop performance, I think, deserves a more detailed look. The S1 Pro doesn't have a lot of mop features, like auto-extending mops, dirt detection, or automatic re-mopping. But what it does have is perhaps the best mop system in the entire space (with the possible exception of some newcomers like the 3i, SwitchBot, and Eureka mop roller bots recently released). Turn off all the features, and the S1 Pro will wipe the floor (ha) with all the other robots. I am amazed at just how well it performs. To my view, a superior starting point is way more important than making up for inferiority with features and smarts. And even its weaknesses have to be taken into perspective. I've been taking my bot to our entirely carpeted second floor, just to see how it would do, and it's exceeded expectations there as well. Granted, those expectations were set low due to the reviewer dings in this area. But my upstairs is a lot cleaner today than it was before getting the S1 Pro, and this is with only weekly non-scheduled jobs. It does get a few hair tangles that I have to deal with afterwards, but clearing those out isn't nearly as much work as manually vacuuming upstairs would be, which makes it an overall win in my book. Other people's book? Probably not. All of today's robovacs require compromises; which compromises are the right ones for you isn't something I can tell you (even if our use cases sounds pretty similar). All I can provide is my experience, which will hopefully tell you what you need to know to make your own decision.

I've had a Eufy S1 Pro since October, and am quite happy with it so far. Observations on using it: * The mop is excellent. I've used it to clean up actual spills and pet accidents (after soaking up excess liquid with paper towels in the latter case). The mop is definitely the banner feature for this robot. * It is also good at obstacle avoidance, which was important for us as we have a dog. It's only had a few incidents with cords and a small plastic bag in all the time since we've had it. * Edge vacuuming is OK. Corner vacuuming is less good; not up to what robots with extending side brushes can do, but better than a typical robot. Mopping edges leaves about a half-inch unmopped border, which you'll have to touch up manually every so often; ditto with corners. * Carpet vacuuming is OK, but not class-leading by any stretch. The brush roller should prevent actual hair tangles, but it does tend to collect hair on the axle ends (which it's designed to handle; there's space for hair to collect). You'll need to clear out the hair from the main brush and the two side brushes every so often. I don't have experience with as many pets as you have; if there were a place where you might find this robot lacking, it's here. * Maintenance of the onboard dirty water tank will take a little extra time. There's an internal screen to separate out debris from the dirty water which will need frequent cleaning. I do mine once a week, but I could probably space it out more if I wanted to. (I mop twice a week plus one-off jobs.) * The app is pretty good. No frills, but simple, and it does the main things it needs to do: mapping, scheduling, basic map editing, no-go zones and virtual walls, that sort of thing. It also has reminders for many periodic maintenance tasks. * There are directions for setting up Alexa, but I haven't tried it. There's a S1 non-Pro as well, which is a little cheaper usually. It doesn't have the ozone generator for disinfecting the water, can't be hooked up to plumbing, and uses the slightly worse navigation and obstacle avoidance from the Eufy X10. It's worth looking into whether the extra features in the Pro are worth the cost to you. Finally, I don't have direct experience with the Ecovacs or Eureka, but reviews of those two have not been great. Check out Vacuum Wars on the Eureka, and Just A Dad on the Ecovacs.

I have a Eufy S1 Pro. It requires vacuuming while mopping, which I think is intended to help with this problem. Also, there's a mesh screen in the onboard dirty water tank that collects debris and keeps it out of the tank, which you have to clean. I do mine weekly, which seems to be enough. Edge support with roller mops is hit-or-miss. Mine doesn't have an extending roller, so I get about a half-inch of unmopped floor around the walls which I have to manually mop occasionally when I notice it getting dirty. So far, the ones with extending rollers seem to improve on the situation, but still miss things. The spinning pad robots are clearly ahead in this area for the moment. It's important to recognize that rollers are better, but not perfect. They handle tougher stains and messes, but aren't all-powerful. I still soak up excess liquid from messes before sending the robot out, and I have it mop a much larger area than just the mess, and set it to run 2X. This gives the self-cleaning system time to really get the roller clean by the second pass, and the results are spectacular when I do that.

The problem with CES 2025 robots is that there are very few independent reviews of any of them right now. They're just starting to come out for the Dreame X50, for example, and while the demos at CES looked amazing and the advertised features were great, initial feedback is very mixed, to the point that I'd recommend holding off on the X50 for a little bit. There's a good chance that Dreame will work out those issues with firmware updates, as their previous robots are a lot better for these specific problem areas, but you might have a disappointing experience for a while before that happens. I will bring up the Eufy S1 Pro (which should surprise no one who follows the subreddit :-) ). There's at least one independent review which found that the Eufy does better at cleaning textured surfaces than the competition at the time; see The Hook Up's 2024 robovac review on YouTube (not the budget one). I've owned one since October, and have been happy with its performance, but be aware that carpet vacuuming and edge cleaning are not as good as other robovacs. There's a little more maintenance to do regarding the dirty water tank; I do a quick cleaning of the mesh filter and a rinse-out weekly. Plus, the auto-empty isn't as good at getting fine dust out of the HEPA filter, so I also blow that out weekly. Hair tangles are handled in a so-so manner, so I'd also factor in cleaning out the axles weekly if you have long-haired people or animals in the household. Other than that and refilling/emptying the water tanks, it's pretty hands off. The app will remind you of the other maintenance items, like replacing the roller or the dust filter, though you'll want to check the dust bag yourself to see if it's full. There's also a proprietary detergent bottle; you can run without it, but it does seem to have benefits, and the bottle lasts a long time. (I'm still on my first bottle, which is more than half full after mopping at least twice a week since I've owned it.) As to durability: there are people who bought the Eufy during the Kickstarter phase who have had no problems since, only replacing the typical wear items. There are also people who have had problems, so you might want to search Reddit to get a good idea of the distribution. Also, to the advice given by FarConcern2308, the Eufy does not have a "vacuum first, then mop" setting; it will always vacuum while mopping, though I believe the Eufy is designed to handle some liquid in the vacuum system.

I own an S1 Pro. I use it mostly on LVP (hard) flooring, but also manually run it upstairs on all carpet. It's scheduled to mop twice a week and vacuum twice a week, all overnight, so I get to see the difference in performance between vac/mop and vac only. It's been close to two months now, and so far, I've been pleased with its performance. Tracked-in leaves and misc debris are gone in the morning, no matter the cleaning mode. Today, I opened something packed in styrofoam, which left those styrofoam crumbs everywhere; one room vac later, and the crumbs were gone. Vacuum performance has been satisfactory. It's not great at handling hair tangles, but otherwise seems to do the job. The upstairs carpets are noticeably cleaner now than before. This is my first robot floor cleaner, so no basis of comparison with anything else, including the X10. Not sponsored. :-) It's an anecdote, and I might just be lucky.

My first question: have you read the lease carefully to ensure that the robot vacuum "advice" isn't actually part of your contract? As it is, if the robot caused any damage to your floors, the landlord could use that as justification for keeping your damage deposit when you move out. If the prohibition of robot mops is mentioned in your lease, the landlord could even sue you for damage caused to the floor. There have been reports of robot mops damaging hardwood floors, so you should be very clear in your own mind about the risk you're taking. That said, some practical advice: * It should be possible to control water flow on most modern mops. Be careful of smart mopping features, however, as they can cause the robot to go over specific areas over and over, putting a lot of water in a small space. Vacuum Wars has started measuring the amount of water left on the floor after mopping and incorporating that into their mop scores, which might be useful here. * Stone tile won't have the same problems as hardwood. If you limit robot mopping to the tile floors and keep your base station on the tile floors, you should be in much better shape risk-wise. * Speaking of the base station, if something were to go badly wrong with a water leak, it's most likely to happen there. If you can't keep the base on the stone tiles, get a waterproof pad to put under the base to catch leaks. A loud leak detector is a really good idea, wherever you put the base. If you leave the house unattended, do not schedule mopping jobs during that time, and drain the water from the robot and base. * If you ever plan to use the robot mop on the wood, stick to roller mop designs. The onboard scraper will remove debris from the roller pad as quickly as it's picked up. Be especially cautious of spinning pad mops; if they pick up a small rock, they could gouge a swirl pattern into the wood very quickly. Unfortunately, this would disqualify all the robots you mention in the mid-range category. * Most robot mops can clean with water only, either via an app setting or by just not adding detergent. I would check for this on any candidate models. I can confirm that the Eufy S1 Pro has a detergent bottle, but will mop without the bottle installed. In your shoes, I would purchase with the assumption that I would only be able to vacuum the floors, based on the landlord's directive. I don't want to be too harsh, but if I were a clean freak and had a landlord trying to dictate exactly how floors should be cleaned, I would seriously reconsider signing the lease in the first place. I've had good results with my Eufy S1 Pro on my LVP floors, so if you go for a robot mop, that might be a good choice. It's a roller mop design, and I've never observed it put excessive water on the floor even on the highest flow setting. Plus, it's often on sale for $1000. You should also consider the Eufy S1 (non-Pro), which will be a bit cheaper at the cost of some features.

Most robots with automatic base stations should be set-and-forget to an extent. This is easier with vacuum-only robots, as you just need an auto-empty bin. For mop robots, you want something that washes and dries the mop pads automatically. Maintenance beyond that shouldn't be required more often than weekly. For context, I typically spend about half an hour per week doing maintenance on my S1 Pro, which includes blowing out the extra dust on the HEPA filter, removing hair from the main brush, filling and emptying the base tanks, and cleaning out the debris filter on the robot's onboard dirty water tank. Occasionally, I'll need to do more work: cleaning out the base station, more thorough cleaning of the onboard dirty water tank, replacing wear parts, that sort of thing.

I have the Eufy and love it, but keep in mind: when you choose the S1 Pro, you're trading better mop performance for worse carpet performance. If you care more about your hard floors than your carpets, this might be a good choice. If not, steer clear. Carpet performance is "fine" in my experience; the carpets I do use it on are cleaner than they otherwise would be. But I'd say odds are good that either of the other two robots will do better.

"Perfect" with robot vacuums is not a thing. In all cases, you have to prioritize and compromise, even with the expensive ones. So why pay the big bucks? Honestly, if you look at an expensive robot and you don't see one or more features that jump out at you as "must haves", then I don't know why you'd pay the big bucks. There are a lot of pretty good cheap robots. I own a flagship robot: the Eufy S1 Pro, which retails for $1500, and I got on sale for $1000. In my mind, there were two big features that spoke to me: really good obstacle avoidance, and the roller mop system that cleans the mop continuously. Compromises included average to poor vacuuming performance on carpet, a bit more maintenance (due to that continuous mop cleaning feature), less good edge and corner cleaning, so-so hair tangling performance, and the price. I'm quite happy with my choice; it's met my expectations for five months now. For you, this is a pretty poor match. If you spent $1000+ on this, you'd probably be pretty disappointed, especially with those tall and fluffy carpets. I don't think the S1 Pro is particularly bad as a flagship, at least from the impressions I get from reviewers and user comments. It's possible to make a similar list of pros and cons for every flagship out there, which you've already done for a few of them. So if I were you, I'd probably start with something as cheap as you can live with, and then ask yourself what that can't do that you really need. Then start looking for robots that do those things, and ask yourself if you can live with their drawbacks. Try to get into a mindset of "paying for features" rather than "paying for perfection". Since you like the Roborock Qrevo Master, I'll point you at something to use as a baseline that's more in line with the experience you've had so far: the Roborock Q5 Max+. This should give you an improved experience over your current robot at a price that's a bit higher than what you paid. The Eufy L60 SES is also worth mentioning at this level. From there, see what upgrades look like. For example, there are two directions you can go from the Eufy L60: the Eufy C20 or E20. The C20 adds mopping and automatic mop washing, while the E20 is a better implementation of the L60 idea, along with the ability to convert to a handheld cordless vacuum. Which one of those sounds better to you? Can you live with the drawbacks? Would you be frustrated spending "that much" and having to live with "those problems"? On the Roborock side, maybe the Qrevo S is a good stopping point on your way towards the Master. Or maybe you'd want to switch vendors, and move from the Q5 Max+ to the Dreame L10s Ultra, for example. Reviews can be a problem, especially since you need to weed out both the naysayers and the sponsored shills. Reputation is probably the best thing to go by. To that end, here are a few YouTube reviewers that seem to do pretty well at being fair and balanced: * Vacuum Wars * Just A Dad * Jamie Andrews * Vacuum Chef * The French Glow * The Hook Up Hope that helps. Good luck!

I'll first point out: make sure what you get is compatible with 240V power. You don't want to fry your new robot when you get home. I'd also echo FarConcern2308's warning about warranty issues. Multi-floor support is likely to be more about the manufacturer than the model. Dreame, Roborock, and Narwal seem to be the safe choices. Eufy can do it as well, but it's a bit more annoying to use from my experience. Shark multi-floor support is basically nonexistent. iRobot is behind in navigation generally. For mopping, there are basically two choices: the Eufy S1 Pro, and everything else. Feature-wise, the S1 Pro is a bit behind the other robots; this includes things like extending mops, AI mess detection, automatic re-mopping, and the like. But the S1 Pro has the best mop on the market, in my opinion. Most of the better mops today use two spinning circular pads on the rear of the robot, but the S1 Pro uses a roller mop along with an onboard mop cleaning system and dirty water tank. This means that the mop surface is constantly being cleaned as the robot is mopping, while the other robots can only add clean water to their pads, and have to go back to the base every so often to clean them. I've got a S1 Pro, and am really happy with its mop performance; like you, I mostly need mine for hard floors. For hair tangles, my beloved S1 Pro is unfortunately middle-of-the-road, particularly on carpets. You'll need to clear the main brush axles of accumulated hair every so often even on hard floors. Dreame seems to have the best system here, with their tricut brush that can be added on to most of their newer robots. Amazingly, a budget vacuum (the Eufy L60 with self-empty station) gets top marks here as well, although the mop performance is more in line with a budget system and not very good. It doesn't sound like object avoidance is as big a deal, but just for completeness: the high-end robots from Eufy, Narwal, and Dreame are going to be best at avoiding stuff on the floor. Anything with LIDAR should be able to steer clear of taller objects, but the Eufy S1 Pro, Dreame X40 Ultra, and Narwal Freo Z have multiple front sensors and advanced software for the smaller stuff. Roborock is a step behind, generally, although there are reports that their most recent releases have improved in this area. I'll also point out that some of the manufacturers have sub-brands that are nearly as good and often cheaper. (Or super-brands; some Roborock and Dreame models are re-sold under the Xiaomi name, though not so much in the USA.) I hope that helps. Do check out the online reviews; a few good places on YouTube are Vacuum Wars, Just A Dad, and Jamie Andrews. There are also a lot of good people here, some of whom might disagree with some of my conclusions; definitely pay attention to those differences of opinion. No one robovac can do it all just yet, so the biggest thing is prioritizing your must-haves and deciding what weaknesses you can live with. Good luck!

Sort of. It's more maintenance, but not "constant" (per the OP's comment). Specifically, I schedule mop jobs with mine twice a week, and have occasional ad-hoc cleanups (and also vacuum three times a week). I do the dirty water reservoir maintenance once a week; takes about 5-10 minutes, and involves cleaning the debris screen in the tank and rinsing out the tank. With this maintenance, neither dirty water tank smells, nor does the roller mop. I empty the base dirty water tank at the same time, so once a week. Edited to add: re-reading the OP, I would caution against sending any robot vacuum, even the S1 Pro, to clean a mess with lots of big wet debris, such as a plate of noodles in sauce. While the mop roller would be cleaned fine, some of the mess would adhere to the bottom of the robot or get sucked into the dustbin, and there's no cleaning routine for those parts. Check the video reviews of the S1 Pro for some mopping torture tests, and you'll get a better idea of what the robot can do and if that meets your needs.

To my knowledge, the only good strategy for dealing with cables is to avoid them. Once you run it over, you run the risk of it catching on your main brush. At that point, it will freeze the main brush, possibly damaging it, and also putting stress on your motor. In the best case, your robot will stop and alert you to the problem, which breaks your "don't want to have the baby the thing long term" requirement. That, or it will drag it behind as it keeps going, and possibly catch on something, tying your robot down. Avoidance is out there. I can think of three that are excellent: the Narwal Freo Z, the Dreame X40 Ultra, and the Eufy S1 Pro (which is the one I own). Retail prices in USD right now are $1500 for the Eufy and Narwal, and $1600 for the Dreame, which is (according to Google) between £1200-1300. With the right sale, you might get those down to about the $1000 (£800) price point, which is what I paid for my S1 Pro. The Eufy X10 is nearly as good at obstacle avoidance, and a bit cheaper: $700 on sale right now, or about £570 if you can find the equivalent sale in the UK. But reviews and user reports are mixed on its cleaning performance; some find it quite acceptable, while others have complained about poor vacuuming on hard floors. The Roomba j5+ (which you mentioned) has independent reviews that rate its obstacle avoidance as pretty good (see [here](https://vacuumwars.com/irobot-roomba-combo-j5-review/) for an example); that's not going to be as good as the robots I listed above. They have the poop guarantee, but cables are harder to avoid than pet waste. Plus, Roombas are known for having problems with navigation and their app. iRobot (the maker of Roombas) is known to be in a bit of trouble, and their technology hasn't advanced much since the early 2020s, which is a bad sign. At minimum, I think there's a good chance you'd be babysitting it a bit more than you'd like. One plus: Roombas are known to be generally excellent for their price at vacuuming, and they're pretty easy to repair if needed. Obstacle avoidance was what motivated me to mention the Eufy E20: not so much the "use it as a regular vacuum" thing (though that is a bonus if you can't get the robot to be useful), but Eufy's claims of better object avoidance at a lower price. Eufy has some credibility in that area, so it's not entirely crazy. I did mention that it's only my "you much choose" pick, largely because of the lack of independent reviews. What might be useful: here are your criteria: * cope with clutter * not wake you up * be generally hands-off and hassle-free after initial setup * cheap I don't think that robot exists yet. So, next best: what can you live without? I wouldn't stress on the "wake up" part too much, as you should be able to get something that can schedule during the day for your budget. So, can you get better at tidying? Or perhaps deal with some babysitting? Or maybe double your budget?

I hear you on the value. If it makes a difference, I have a S1 Pro, and we don't have any issues with ozone leakage in the house. We also have family members with respiratory issues, who haven't noticed anything. But I get why you might not be keen on taking the risk. I see the S1 on Amazon US for $799; not sure if that's an option for you.

I've got a Eufy S1 Pro. My downstairs is smaller than yours (about 1000 square feet), but somewhat complex, and it navigates that well. The mop is really, really good. Its carpet performance is pretty average, and it's just OK at hair tangles. It does OK with getting debris in edges and corners, but it will leave a gap around edges and in corners when mopping. There's a regular S1 as well (not Pro), which is cheaper and running on sale. It's identical except for some features; it uses the navigation and obstacle avoidance from the X10 instead of its own enhanced version, it drops the onboard ozone generator, and you can't do the plumbing hookup with it. Everything else about the two are the same, including (most importantly) the mop.

I can explain why I spent $1000 on a Eufy S1 Pro back in October. There were two must-haves for me: the roller mop, and top-notch obstacle avoidance. This robot was near or at the top in both categories. Different people have different requirements. If you don't see anything about the S8 MaxV that really makes you say "I gotta have this", then it's probably not the robot for you.

The roller mop is a winner, in my opinion. I have a Eufy S1 Pro, and believe it to be the best mopping robot available right now, because the roller is that good. It's not necessarily the roller that's the game changer; the roller enables on-board cleaning of the mopping surface, which is where roller mops shine. A few of the new robots at CES have roller or belt mops that can do on-board cleaning. In general, I'm excited to see them, but would be skeptical until independent reviews come out that can judge the actual performance. No feature is so good that a manufacturer can't screw it up. :-) Specifically: * Edge mopping is not as good on the S1 Pro, and a few of these try to do better. But auto-extending seems to be a feature that's tricky to get right, if recent experience with side brushes and spinning mop pads are anything to go by. So I'd be nervous about trusting that the existence of an extending mop roller automatically means it's better. If they can get the feature right, it will be clearly better, but that's a big "if". * We've only seen one belt mop that I know of so far before now: the Eureka J20. Reviews are mixed, but it seems its weaknesses aren't related to the belt mop. So I think this has potential to be as good as a roller, if not better. I'm anticipating that at least one of these, maybe even the X8 Pro Omni, will end up overshadowing my beloved S1 Pro (sadly for me, because mine has really improved my life). But today, I would not recommend any of them, just because their performance is unknown in independent reviews, at least to me.

I bought a Eufy S1 Pro back in October. I had just paid a lot of money to replace my entire downstairs floor with LVP, and knew that it would be a lot harder to keep looking clean than the carpet had been. For reasons, I also had less time to spend cleaning, so I needed something to help me with that. My criteria: * Mopping was more important than vacuuming. * Since we have a dog, pet waste avoidance was a top priority. I also work in IT, and so was familiar with the ways smart tech could fail, especially smart tech delivered at least partially via the cloud. So, given a choice between great fundamentals and so-so fundamentals layered with smart tech to make up the gaps, great fundamentals would win. From there, it was a matter of research. Last fall, the Eufy S1 Pro was impressing reviewers left and right with its mopping and obstacle avoidance. That sold it for me. I was also able to get it on sale for $1000, which helped. There were a few other things. In the review videos, the S1 Pro seemed a bit more solid and reliably put together -- nothing I could tie to an objective metric, but it felt better. I noticed that a few reviewers would test a robot, find it had inadequate mopping, and reach for the S1 Pro to clean up after the other robot, which also impressed me. There was one comparison between two other robots Just A Dad did where he basically said "this is what good mopping looks like" as he sent out the S1 Pro to clean up. So far, I don't feel ripped off at all. The robot performs very well, and is generally trouble-free.

I'll chime in with my experience, since I was in a pretty similar situation a while back. Ripped out carpets, installed all LVP. We've got grass in the yard, but still have the usual issues with tracking in dirt and spilling, and also have a dog who leaves messes on the floor occasionally. I settled on the Eufy S1 Pro. This uses a roller mop rather than the spinning pads that are so popular these days, which is nice because it cleans the mop continuously as it mops and stores dirty water on the robot for later disposal at the base. Spinning pad mops can do as well with some of the dirt detection and auto-remopping features available, but I preferred to keep things simple and "trust the process" to get things clean. So far, that's paid off for me. The S1 Pro mops excellently, is good with dried-on stains with 2 passes, and cleans up wet messes well. Specifically to your question, the water left on the floor is not excessive, to the point where it dries in a few minutes even with higher humidity, max water, and 2 passes. On hard floors, its vacuuming performance is good with regular dust filter cleaning; fine dust tends to accumulate at the filter and embeds itself in the filter. Obstacle avoidance is also good, and navigation is OK; I'll observe that the navigation seems to be less good with recent firmware updates, though not to the point that it's affecting performance. Drawbacks to the S1 series: the vacuuming performance on carpets and rugs is not as good. I consider it adequate, but others may disagree. I suspect you and I may be similar in prioritizing mop performance over carpet vacuum performance. Additionally, it is over-cautious with edges and corners, to the point that we occasionally have to sweep and mop manually under them. An extending side brush would be nice, although the square shape makes it better at edges and corners than a round robot without that feature. Finally, roller mops tend to require more maintenance, specifically for the onboard dirty water tank; its internal filter needs frequent cleaning to prevent it from clogging and dripping dirty water as it mops. Would I recommend the S1 Pro today? I'm not sure; there are a number of other roller mops out now, including Eufy's own E25 and E28. At the right price, most certainly, especially if you need some of its features (plumbing hookup being perhaps the most useful one). Another option to consider is the non-Pro S1, which might be even cheaper yet. Give the spinning pad robots a good look as well; if they can detect and re-mop especially dirty floors, then they can clean as well or better than a roller mop without those features.

Very few robots are LIDAR-only; pretty much everything has some kind of additional sensor for obstacle avoidance. If you meant "LIDAR mop-only", then I don't know of any. Everything is a combo these days. For good mops: I have a Eufy S1 Pro, which has worked very well for me, but the market has moved on since I bought mine. Get it if the price is significantly less than $1000. I'd recommend anyone looking at a S1 series today look at the Eufy E25 or E28 closely, as it has most of the advantages of the S1 with some additional advantages, and usually for less money. Note that the S1 series has issues with edge and corner cleaning, as well as carpet vacuuming; it's not terrible, but probably not as good as others. If you're using a 11S, though, edge and corner cleaning will certainly be a vast improvement with the S1. There are a number of other brands that sell good robots. Take a look at Dreame and Mova; they're sub-brands of the same company, and they've been delivering some great robots for low prices. I will say that, if mopping is your highest priority with this robot, the Eufy robots I mentioned earlier will likely do better, but at a higher price. Other brands that typically ship good stuff include Roborock and Narwal.

There are four types of mops on robots these days: * A stationary pad. These are the cheapest, and generally the least effective. * A vibrating pad. This is how your S8 works; it's a stationary pad, except that it vibrates as it mops. Better than non-vibrating pads, but still not the best. * Two approximately-round spinning pads. This is the most popular option today, and better than the vibrating or stationary pads. * A long roller or track mop, similar to a wet/dry vac. These are generally the best when implemented well, mostly because they clean the roller/track as it mops and store the dirty water on the robot for later emptying into the base. Eufy has historically been the leader with roller mop robots, and until recently, their S1 series was one of the best robots to get if you valued mopping performance above all else. They're still a great choice, but they sacrifice some vacuuming performance for the excellent mop, are short on smart mopping features like dirt detection, and don't do edges and corners as well. The newer ones are attempting to fix these issues, with varying levels of success so far. Independent reviews are still a little scarce on the Eufy E25 and E28, and very hard to find for any of the unreleased robots (Narwal Flow and Mova Z50 come to mind here). But I'd say these robots are your best options in the roller space. The Ecovacs X8 and Yeedi S14 also have rollers, and that part of those robots seem to do well, but there have been reports of software glitches impacting navigation and obstacle avoidance; check reviews and user reports closely before buying one of those. Spinning-pad robots can also be a good choice, though I've heard that they tend to leave streaks on glossy tile if that's what you have. Narwal's been releasing cheaper robots in this space that seem to do well. Be sure they have the smart mopping features, and that these features work well; that's how these robots overcome some of the limitations with spinning-pad robots.

I have a Eufy S1 Pro, and have used it before to clean up kitchen messes. It's a valid criticism that it doesn't lift or stop the vacuum brushes and motor when mopping messes. I deal with this by soaking up excess liquid with paper towels before sending the robot out. If you do a zone clean, make sure the zone covers a much larger area than the mess itself, and have it do a 2x clean in any case. I've gotten very good results with that method. I imagine the Yeedi would be similar, though I have no direct experience with it. The upcoming models may solve these issues with the vacuum and brushes, but you'd have to wait for them. I'd also recommend not being an early adopter of any robot; wait for independent reviews from reputable reviewers before moving ahead.

Each of these will have its strengths and weaknesses. The E28 will be the best at mopping. Not that the others are terrible, but their mopping systems are inferior to the roller mop in the E28. The others make up for this with smart features, where they will automatically re-mop when they detect they've mopped a particularly dirty area, but like a lot of smart/AI features, the robot may not always get it right. The roller mop system on the E28 will be more likely to get the floor clean the first time. I have a Eufy S1 Pro, which uses the same basic mopping system, and can vouch for its excellence on hard floors with both wet messes and tougher stains. The Saros 10R will likely be better at many other things. There are indications that the 10R is better at obstacle avoidance than most other Roborock offerings, and I've seen at least one review that cast the T50 as only on par with other Ecovacs models. One advantage the 10R will have in mopping: it can leave the mop pads at the base for vacuum-only jobs. The E28 uses the Eufy X10's obstacle avoidance system, which at one time was top of the class and is still probably better than either of the alternatives. It's too early to tell which is better at vacuuming, with both the T50 and E28 claiming superior vacuuming, and the 10R demonstrating that in independent reviews. This is an advantage for the 10R right now: having been out a bit longer, there are plenty of non-shill reviews available. One other advantage the 10R will have over the others: lifting. All three can lift their mops on carpet, but the 10R can lift its whole chassis when vacuuming high-pile carpeting, and can lift the main and side vacuum brushes when it detects a wet mess to avoid sucking or spreading liquid.

My Eufy S1 Pro does well with dried-on stains, but otherwise I'd echo the criticisms here. Keep in mind that any unreleased robot is going to be awesome -- at least until the independent reviews come in. :-)

I don't know what your budget is, but obstacle avoidance is one place where you really get what you pay for. The best obstacle avoidance typically ships on the most expensive models. If you have a more limited budget, you will likely be able to improve on your Eufy, but perhaps not to the extent you'd prefer. If you liked your Eufy other than its obstacle avoidance, you'll be happy to know that the higher-end Eufys tend to do very well on obstacle avoidance, and seem to provide great "bang for your buck" in that department. Watch those reviews, though, to be sure it's good enough, and that other issues aren't show-stoppers. I have a S1 Pro, which mops really well. I have LVP floors, but water control seems to be good enough to not be a problem for real wood as long as the floor is sealed properly. It's also good for vacuuming on hard floors, but is less good vacuuming carpets or rugs. And it was #1 on the Vacuum Wars obstacle avoidance list for a little while. Dreame and Mova (they're the same company; Mova is the budget brand for Dreame) also tend to have excellent obstacle avoidance. Reviews seem to rate them highly on most features. If you do have problems, though, Dreame support is not great. Finally, Roborock's new StarSight navigation and obstacle avoidance system is reported to be a huge improvement over their older tech. You can get it in the Qrevo Slim and in the newly-released Saros 10R.

Ah. That's clearly a defective unit since yours is new. I'm surprised that support hasn't offered to replace your unit, but not that surprised. For reference, I have a Eufy S1 Pro and about 1000 square feet of floor to clean. It has the recharge and resume feature, but has never had to use it. It takes a little over 2 hours to finish the whole job.

I'm curious about your characterization of mid-range vs. high-end. I don't mean to imply you're wrong; rather, I'd like to know what you see in those robots that led you to put them in the categories you described. What makes the pricier robots different? Generally, two things: major feature transitions and quality improvements. An example of the former from your list would be to compare the Q5 to the Qrevo Pro; the mopping system on the Qrevo is way better, and the Qrevo actually manages the mop, instead of making you manage it with the Q5. For the latter, consider the L10s vs. the L40/X40; they generally do most of the same things, but the L40 and X40 will do them better than the L10s, especially with regards to obstacle avoidance, edge cleaning, and mop washing/drying. You mention thresholds and carpets; do you have higher thresholds or deep-pile carpet? Most robots should be able to handle 2cm thresholds or shorter and low- or medium-pile carpet without any issues. Robots find random obstacles difficult to manage, and obstacle avoidance is one of the places where you generally get what you pay for. The low end will be very hit-or-miss, to the point that I wouldn't trust the feature for things like pet poop. On the high end -- I've had a Eufy S1 Pro for about 6 months now, and I can count the times it's run over something on the fingers of one hand, and never anything as catastrophic as pet poop.

Its obstacle avoidance is among the best in the class of 2024. People might argue whether it's better or worse than the Narwal Freo Z or the Dreame X40, but "top three" qualifies as outstanding in my book. I can vouch for it being very, very good.

The S1 Pro provides stereoscopic infrared cameras and a single RGB camera. I'm curious: do you think there's an advantage one way or the other, and why?

It's my understanding that the S1 Pro has three separate sensors: dToF LIDAR, stereoscopic (they call it "binocular") infrared cameras, and a RGB camera. You can see the three cameras as part of the "3D Matrix Eye" part, but there's also a slit above that sensor array where the LIDAR is. A side view of the robot makes the slit very easy to see, as it curves around the front face of the robot and shows whatever's behind the robot through it. I was curious if there's an advantage to stereo RGB over stereo infrared. I know that mine can detect and avoid objects in the dark, but can't identify them. (Maybe that's the answer I'm looking for.)

The bad news is that all current robots with roller mops also vacuum, and all that I know of don't have a mop-only mode. The good news is that there are a number of models which fulfill all of the other items on your want list with varying levels of quality, with more on the way. Here's the list of robots I know of on the market today, with short bouts of summarization/opinion: * SwitchBot S10+. Really cool design, with separate docking stations for the vacuum and mop water filling/emptying. Can be hooked up to plumbing. Can also empty their dehumidifier/fill their humidifier. Can extend the roller to clean right up to walls. Mixed reviews; the mop is a huge positive. * Eureka J20. Independent reviews have not been kind, though the mop has been a standout. * 3i S10 Ultra. Includes a dehumidifier to fill the clean water tank from the air, and a still to distill dirty water into clean water and send the leftovers to the vacuum dustbin. Pretty good reviews, although there's some concern about the longevity of the water management system, there is no way to empty the dirty water tank apart from the still, and the mopping has had a surprising number of poor reviews. Also can extend the roller to get close to walls. * Eufy S1/S1 Pro. Current market leader, with overall positive reviews of the mopping system. Cannot extend the mop roller to walls. Very good obstacle avoidance. (Disclaimer: I own a S1 Pro.) * Ecovacs X8/Yeedi S14. Essentially the same robot; Yeedi is the budget brand for Ecovacs. Very recently released, and the current challenger to the S1. It's still a bit early for independent reviews, but the ones out there are all over the place. There's some concern about Ecovacs/Yeedi robots generally; perception is that their quality has gone down recently. And some that have been announced, but not released yet: * Narwal Flow. * Mova Z50 Ultra.

Maintenance is pretty easy on my S1 Pro. I usually spend about a half-hour per week on it; this includes filling and emptying tanks, blowing out the vacuum filter, handling hair (it's not as good at hair tangles, but not the worst either), and cleaning out the debris filter in the robot's dirty water tank. The app will nag you for other maintenance items. You can cut down on maintenance by buying the plumbing kit for the S1 Pro; if I didn't need to mess with the tanks anyway, I'd probably only worry about maintenance every other week at most. Since you mentioned it: the roller slides on and off easily, with a little latch you press that normally holds it in place. It generally runs without needing much until it gets worn out, at which point you replace it, which is about $20. I just did mine after a little less than six months. People complain about the maintenance of the dirty water tank, but I don't think it's that bad. The one thing people get irritated at which I understand: there are three filters that are intended to be replaced in the robot dirty water tank. One of them spends a good bit of time wet, and the little handle to pull it out of the robot has a tendency to rust. It doesn't affect the filter's operation, or weaken enough to break (though I imagine it would eventually if you neglected replacing it for too long). If it matters: I love my S1 Pro, and would buy it again if I had to do it over.

I got a S1 Pro in October, also for new LVP floors, and have been happy with it. The mop is clearly the star of the show. I use it to clean spills and pet urine accidents, which it does well with the max water setting and 2 passes, though I also use paper towels to soak up excess liquid and any chunks. Our floor still looks as good as the day we installed it. There are no scratches that I've detected from the robot. We don't have nearly as much hair generation, though. I'm bald, and our dog does not shed, though my wife does have long hair. My experience has been that long hair tends to gather around the axle ends of the main brush, and on the side brushes. The main brush collection is a feature; it's designed with a hollow area on both ends specifically for hair to gather so it doesn't interfere with the brush's action. The side brushes don't seem to do as well; hair just winds up around the center of the brush. I typically clean those out once a week, though I could probably get away with doing it less often, and I do have it vacuum our mostly-carpeted upstairs once a week. Reviews seem to indicate that some of the newer robots do better with hair and can mop nearly as well. Most of these use spinning mop pads, which are not as good as the rollers for a number of reasons, but they make up for this with smart analysis features which cause the robot to re-mop areas it concludes were dirtier than usual. There are a few new models with roller mops out, including the Ecovacs X8 and Yeedi S14 (basically the same robot, as Yeedi is the budget brand for Ecovacs), and a number of other models getting ready to release, including the Mova Z50, Narwal Flow, and Eufy E25 and E28. IMO, the S1 Pro is still the best robot for mopping among the models currently available, though the competition is fierce, and I expect one or more of the newer models to surpass the S1 Pro. The Eufy E25/28 are particularly interesting, as they continue to use the S1's general mopping system but with improvements to address its shortcomings; in particular, they have a new main brush design that may handle tangling much better, as well as other enhancements. Finally, there is a S1 (without the Pro) that's cheaper. You might compare the features of the two to see if any of the Pro features are important to you.

It's hard to say. My #1 concern about the E28 is shared with all the upcoming robots: very few independent reviews to date. Did Eufy do a good job implementing all the new features they list? What compromises did they make to bring those new features? How does the built-in spot cleaner affect its performance as a robot, and is the spot cleaner any good? I think I'd wait to make a decision, as some of the E28's enhancements would be welcome. I might also consider the E25 instead, since it's cheaper, and I don't need another spot cleaner. On the other side, I would very seriously consider buying another S1 Pro if something happened to mine. Obviously, it would matter why mine failed. But assuming no flaws in the product caused its demise, there's something to be said for sticking with what you know works, and I have no serious complaints about mine.

What's more important for you: great hard floor mopping and so-so carpet vacuuming, or the reverse? Unfortunately, even with the most expensive robots, it's all about compromise. If you prioritize mopping, you can go two routes right now: "dumber" but really good mopping, or second-rate mopping that makes up for it with smart features. For the former, I believe the market leader is still the Eufy S1 or S1 Pro, with its roller mop. The roller mop is superior largely because it cleans the roller as it mops and collects dirty water on the robot itself, while all the rest rely on going back to the dock to clean the mop occasionally, leaving more of a possibility of spreading dirt around rather than taking it off the floor. Look at the extra features for the Pro to see if they're worth the extra money. There are a few newer robots that have roller mops with some better features, but reviews have been mixed at best for these, so proceed with caution; these would include the Ecovacs Deebot X8 and Yeedi S14 (which are largely the same unit with a few different features and prices, as Yeedi is the budget brand for Ecovacs). Most of the top flagship robots fall into the second category, including the Roborock Saros 10R and Dreame X50. I've described how roller mops are better than the spinning pads of these robots. These higher-end robots make up for that by analyzing what it's doing with various features to recognize stains or messes, or sensing dirt in the water used to wash the mop. In those cases, it will pay more attention to messy spots, go back early to wash the mop, or re-mop areas it thinks might have been too dirty to clean effectively the first time. This can be more effective than a dumb roller mop -- when the AI systems actually figure out that something needs to happen, which they don't always do. These seem to be improving over time, though. If you prioritize vacuuming, my advice would likely be the same for preferring smart mops, as those flagships also tend to be better at vacuuming than roller mops have been so far. These would also be good choices if you're not as willing to sacrifice some vacuuming performance for top-notch mopping. My experience with the Eufy S1 Pro is that the carpet performance is OK, but not great, and I have no reason to believe other roller mops have improved on that. Finally, there are a number of robots due to be released in the next few months that promise to give you the best of all worlds: great roller mop performance with smart mopping and awesome vacuuming. These would include the Mova Z50 and Narwal Flow. Of course, we won't know for sure until we have good independent reviews available; they apparently exist in Chinese, but I don't have access to those, so can't comment. It's possible that the new robots won't be any better than what you can get now, so it's up to you whether it's worth waiting.

What's more important for you: great hard floor mopping and so-so carpet vacuuming, or the reverse? Unfortunately, even with the most expensive robots, it's all about compromise. If you prioritize mopping, you can go two routes right now: "dumber" but really good mopping, or second-rate mopping that makes up for it with smart features. For the former, I believe the market leader is still the Eufy S1 or S1 Pro, with its roller mop. The roller mop is superior largely because it cleans the roller as it mops and collects dirty water on the robot itself, while all the rest rely on going back to the dock to clean the mop occasionally, leaving more of a possibility of spreading dirt around rather than taking it off the floor. Look at the extra features for the Pro to see if they're worth the extra money. There are a few newer robots that have roller mops with some better features, but reviews have been mixed at best for these, so proceed with caution; these would include the Ecovacs Deebot X8 and Yeedi S14 (which are largely the same unit with a few different features and prices, as Yeedi is the budget brand for Ecovacs). Most of the top flagship robots fall into the second category, including the Roborock Saros 10R and Dreame X50. I've described how roller mops are better than the spinning pads of these robots. These higher-end robots make up for that by analyzing what it's doing with various features to recognize stains or messes, or sensing dirt in the water used to wash the mop. In those cases, it will pay more attention to messy spots, go back early to wash the mop, or re-mop areas it thinks might have been too dirty to clean effectively the first time. This can be more effective than a dumb roller mop -- when the AI systems actually figure out that something needs to happen, which they don't always do. These seem to be improving over time, though. If you prioritize vacuuming, my advice would likely be the same for preferring smart mops, as those flagships also tend to be better at vacuuming than roller mops have been so far. These would also be good choices if you're not as willing to sacrifice some vacuuming performance for top-notch mopping. My experience with the Eufy S1 Pro is that the carpet performance is OK, but not great, and I have no reason to believe other roller mops have improved on that. Finally, there are a number of robots due to be released in the next few months that promise to give you the best of all worlds: great roller mop performance with smart mopping and awesome vacuuming. These would include the Mova Z50 and Narwal Flow. Of course, we won't know for sure until we have good independent reviews available; they apparently exist in Chinese, but I don't have access to those, so can't comment. It's possible that the new robots won't be any better than what you can get now, so it's up to you whether it's worth waiting.

Those are older robots. The Roborock and Dreame would be OK for the right price, but I would probably avoid the Ecovacs X2; it did poorly in reviews, particularly at navigation. The Roomba doesn't have mop pad washing; for the prices I'm seeing, you can do much better. If obstacle avoidance is important, then I would purchase one of the flagship robots from a brand known to have good obstacle avoidance: the Eufy S1 Pro, Dreame X40, or Narwal Freo Z. I might tentatively include the Roborock Saros 10R; Roborock has historically been poor at obstacle avoidance, and this is a new product, but some reviews have indicated it does much better than other Roborocks at avoiding obstacles.

The Eufy S1 Pro can do carpets and rugs. It's just not as good for carpet/rug vacuuming as any of the other options listed. It depends on what you think is more important. If mopping is the priority and you're OK with vacuuming that isn't as good, get the Eufy. Otherwise, look elsewhere. (I own a Eufy S1 Pro.)

I'll add to the chorus of happy S1 Pro owners. Did you know there's a plain S1, non-Pro? You lose a few features, but also a few hundred dollars off the price, depending on what sale you can get.

I'll add to the chorus of happy S1 Pro owners. Did you know there's a plain S1, non-Pro? You lose a few features, but also a few hundred dollars off the price, depending on what sale you can get.

If it helps, I have a S1 Pro, and am quite happy with it. Note that its carpet vacuuming performance will not be as good as others in the price range, and its edge and corner cleaning won't be great. The E28 keeps the excellent mopping performance and adds better suction and an extending side brush for edge and corner cleaning, but obviously for more money. I'd pick either of those over the X10, though I get the appeal of an extra $300-400 in your pocket. It's not bad, but clearly is the worst of the three.

It's OK. On hard floors, it does fine. There isn't much hair tangling resistance; mostly, the rubber brush collects hair on the axles, which it's designed to do, so you have to clean those out every so often. I use mine weekly on carpets, and those carpets have benefited from being cleaned by the robot, especially over time. The dustbin completely filled the first few times I ran it, and even now it collects quite a bit each time I run it. OTOH, I've run a corded vacuum on our carpets afterwards, and pulled stuff out that the robot couldn't get. This is definitely more for maintaining a generally clean carpet.

Sure, but you're not buying this robot for its vacuuming prowness. You're buying what many believe to be the best mop from the 2024 class of robots (including me).

When I bought my Eufy S1 last year, the design was a big contributor to my decision. It looks good to me, and it's easy to do things with the base without bending down.

Roborock has two mopping systems for their higher-end robots: spinning-pad (see their Qrevo line and the Saros 10R) and vibrating-pad, which looks like the stationary-pad system but with a vibrating plate underneath the pad. Roborock's implementation of this has received high marks, with some people rating it as better than spinning pads. The current example of this would be the Saros 10, with the S8 MaxV continuing to do well even as an older model. To my knowledge, Roborock does not have a roller/track mop model. I'll also put in a vote for the Eufy S1 family. They're older than the models you mentioned, but have been reliable for a number of people (including me). The Pro was considered the top roller mop of 2024 (with some considering it the top mopping robot of 2024). They're not worth their retail prices today, but I see the S1 on Amazon US for $700 and the S1 Pro for $1050. Probably the main concern you should have would be vacuum performance, but my S1 Pro has never had a problem with pickup on hard floors.

FWIW, the model number on the Eufy is incorrect. The Eufy S1, not the Pro, supports Matter. Good news: the S1 is cheaper.

Good news: the S1 (non-Pro) is cheaper, and is actually the model that supports Matter. It might even be in your budget range.

As an owner of a S1 Pro, I can tell you that it does not support Matter.

It's fine with vacuuming the hardwood floor. Carpet vacuuming is clearly a weak spot for the S1, though it's not terrible. Hair will accumulate on the main brush ends. This is by design; instead of getting caught up on the outside of the roller, the hair migrates to the end and slips into hollow cavities that can hold a good bit of hair. You'll also see hair on the side brushes, which you can pull or cut off. It's worth removing the side brushes occasionally to clean out the hair that migrates under the side brush. Hopefully, you're buying this for the great mopping. If mopping is just a so-so feature for you, there are better robots for the same or even less money.

The S1 Pro, mainly because it's been out for a while. There are tons of reviews and user reports out there. (Including mine.) The other two haven't been around for long enough for there to be a lot of good independent analysis, including drawbacks and reasons why you might not want to get them. Maybe in a month or so, we'll know enough to be able to rank them in a sane fashion. It sounds like you're interested in roller mop robots. The only roller mop to the S1 Pro that I consider reasonable (besides the S1, of course) is the Eufy E25, or the Eufy E28 if the spot cleaner appeals to you. They're better on paper, and there's evidence that they deliver on their promises. But there's an issue with dirty water leakage on the current dirty water tank on the robot; there's a new tank design making the rounds, but it's still a little new to know whether it really fixes the problem, and there are the usual annoyances with requesting the new tank from support, production backlogs, etc. You really need to be fine with those hassles and the risk that they didn't get the fix right, and if you're fine with those kinds of risks, maybe the Flow or Z50 isn't so bad.

As far as I know, the following models support plumbing hookups from the manufacturer: * Eufy S1 Pro * Dreame X40 Master * Roborock S8 MaxV * Roborock Saros 10 * SwitchBot S10+ * Narwal Freo * Narwal Freo X Ultra * Narwal Freo Z Ultra Of these, only the Saros 10 is a 2025 model. If I were in your position, I'd evaluate all of the above models, along with the 3i S10 Ultra, and pick the best one, ignoring plumbing/distilling/dehumidifying. Then, make sure you get the plumbing option, whatever that looks like (separate kit, separate model, or none in the case of the 3i). For the best mopping performance, I think you need to take a serious look at the Eufy S1 Pro and Narwal Freo Z Ultra. The reviews on the latter rave about its mopping, and I own the former and can vouch for its mopping prowness.

Quick correction on the Eufy E25: all the reports and reviews I've seen complain about the E28 base station noise, not the E25. Just A Dad is correct: roller mops require more maintenance, specifically for the onboard dirty water tank. His tests are extreme, which leads to extreme cleaning requirements for that tank, but there's still some extra work for normal use. I have a S1 Pro, and I can go two weeks without having to touch the dirty water tank. This is mopping a 1000 square-foot floor once a week, with parts a second time per week as well as some one-off jobs. You're going to need to clean out the dustbin filter every so often with most robots anyway; you can rinse out the tank and debris filter at the same time. How dirty do your floors get? Some of us just have the usual dust and debris issues. For that, you're not likely to notice a difference between the two types. If you have tracked-in mud and dirt a lot, or get stuff spilled on the floor that doesn't get cleaned manually, then the difference will start to matter a lot more.

It's a little surprising how well the Eufy S1 family holds up over a year after its introduction. The E25 and E28 are better on paper, but enough people have had problems with leaks that I would recommend waiting for a proven fix -- especially for someone who's gone through multiple robots with issues. My S1 Pro has been trouble-free for 9 months now. It's a well-known model, with no surprises for you to discover. I find that difficult to argue with.

Another vote for the Eufy S1 Pro. I've had one since October. Drawbacks: you'll need to occasionally clean along edges and corners, as this isn't a strong point for the S1 Pro. Some extra maintenance is needed for the dirty water tank. Carpet performance is OK, but clearly not up to the standards of a flagship robot. OTOH, the mopping is top-tier, navigation and obstacle avoidance is very good, and it's been a solid performer all this time, with very few issues. There's a S1 non-Pro. It has slightly worse navigation and obstacle avoidance, and doesn't have the ozone treatment system for the mop water. It's typically quite a bit cheaper than the S1 Pro. Eufy has also released a few robots that appear to be improvements on the S1 series. Look at the E25 and E28. The E28's main difference is that the clean/dirty water tanks on the base detach and can be used as a spot cleaner. I have no experience with either, but it might be an interesting alternative. I've heard good things about the Roborock, but have no experience with it. Ecovacs as a brand has been having issues with quality recently, so I hesitate to recommend it, even though it seems to be the king of reviews right now.

Most manufacturers claim their robots can handle thresholds up to 2 cm, so you should be fine. That metal raised part in the center should help; the drive wheels are usually knobby and wide precisely to handle somewhat rough transitions like this. I have a 1 cm threshold too, but it's that faux wood type, so very smooth. My Eufy S1 Pro handles it just fine. The Dreame X50 and Saros robots are well-regarded overall, and not a bad choice. But if your main reason for choosing them is to handle this threshold, then I wouldn't worry about it.

Just bought a eufy s1 omni pro. Super excited lol

I've got an S1 Pro. Definitely requires a bit of maintenance, but still probably one of the best purchases I've ever made.

My house is all hardwood and the one knock the Eufy Omni S1 pro had was that it wasn’t as good on carpet as the other robots, but it seemed to score better on hardwood than the rest. My home is a little bigger than yours, 1 floor. I was in your situation of bogged down by research and whatnot, finally said fuck it and got the Eufy and it far exceeded anything I could have imagined. We open all the doors once biweekly and let it double mop the whole house, otherwise vacuum and mop as needed. It cleans everything very well with the mop roller and doesn’t leave any streaks. It’s really good at avoiding obstacles. I tell everyone with all hardwood to just get the Eufy

Poor carpet and hair performance.

Eufy s1 pro have leaking problems like all other eufy’s. Stay away. Returned ours free 10 months.

Eufy S1 pro in our house with 3 dogs and 2 kids. Thing is insane

Its not about hardware, its about software. Personally the only robot I noticed that basically never touches furniture seems to be the Eufy S1 Pro. In every review it seem to navigate astonishingly precisely.

This. Dreame L40 Ultra or Narwal Freo Z Ultra (specfically from Costco, USA) I went for Eufy S1 Pro based on my requirements (hardwood floors, no kids, no pets, condo living with closed windows). My floors are usually clean (no-one dragging dirt into the unit) and clutter free. I also have an ancient Roomba that does an adequate job. I wanted a good mop essentially (since I procrastinate mopping a lot). But Dreame L40 ultra was a close competitor. I would have bought it were it not for: \- Its mopping is secondary to Eufy S1 Pro. \- Its product support is atrocious. Mine is admittedly a narrow use-case and will stay so for the foreseeable future. But outside that, either Dreame L40 Ultra is a top dog for both vacuuming and mopping.

I agree with luikiedook but am nervous of Dreame hardware reliability. Roborock is my favorite brand but I recently picked up a Eufy S1 Pro. It has been amazing. I have a Berner and a Husky but haven’t had any tangles in the short time I’ve owned it. My Roborock S7 has lasted for years, is still going and feel their flagships will still do the same. I know OP doesn’t have much carpet but for those that see this: I recommend Duo-divide for hard floor and duo-roller for carpet. Interesting fact, Roomba pulls more hair out of the carpet in one pass. Doesn’t matter because it’s also left on top of the carpet.

If I were in the same position as last year, choosing a robot vacuum, I’d still go with eufy. Beyond its mopping, what sets eufy apart is its obstacle avoidance and customer service. These two aspects have saved me a ton of hassle, no rescue messages from it getting stuck, and no headaches from sluggish customer service. Even if I were to replace my current s1 pro, I’d wait for the next-gen eufy model.

Go for Eufy, I'm not sure what tricks they use for obstacle avoidance, but my S1 Pro survived my dog's poop at home

I'm trying the freo z... We'll see how it goes. Not here yet. I did also really like the x40. If I end up hating this one that's probably what I'd get but the object avoidance is most important to me. I like the s1 but I hate that the roller for the mop doesn't extend to the edge.

I hope you have a great experience with Eufy, I bought S1Pro. It was cleaning beautifully, a big upgrade from my Narwal, then 8 months in I had a fan error. From that point on and about 12 emails, customer service said the same thing in each email, I had already done the troubleshooting before. Couldn’t talk to CS, finally called Amazon and they helped me get a refund…but Eufy has 30 days to issue and then Amazon takes about 2 weeks. Needless to say, I am extremely careful about my next purchase.

That’s just insane, gotta have a removable dirty water tank!! PS Just returned my Eufy S1Pro, customer service was a word salad, at the end of the day, it cleaned great for 8 months and was LOUD! Don’t even think about buying!

Had roombas for years (most expensive models) - with our new home I went with Eufy Omni S1 Pro. My wife and I call her Jules (you know from the show silo - They always clean...) Shes been amazing. Roomba got lazy and didnt Amazon buy them? Oh nevermind even amazon didnt want them.

I’d say Eufy S1 pro is the best.

Roller mop. Get eufy s1 pro

My S1 Pro does a good job on my two low pile rugs. I don’t doubt the qrevo curve would probably do better, but the S1 does a good enough job, and then when you factor in how incredible the S1 is on hard floors, I don’t regret my decision at all.

Just wanting to close this out by saying after further reading (lets not call that research) I have a Eufy S1 pro in my house. Its actually pretty good and my floors are alreadyblooking cleaner after a day. A few challenges with it rolling into a room and rolling straight out saying it was cleaned but that doesnt seem to be the norm. Being able to schedule different rooms on different days/times with different types/levels of cleaning is great as most of the cleaning can be done when we are out of the house. Hopefully it heeps on impressing.

Just read some reviews that are less than glowing. Disappointing given the price.

Definitley no perfect one yey. But for $2700 Australian dollars im hoping i can get close. Im not buying it to be perfect, im buying it to maintain the house and extend the time betseen manual cleans. This does tick most of my boxes though as mopping hardwood floors is one of my top priorities.

I have shorthair pets on hardwood floors and have found the vacuuming great as well so this seems like a problem with the unit. But now im going to run a swiffer broom over everything to see if it picks anything up.

So injust ran a swiffer broom over the house and it djd pick uo some dog hair, which im fairly sure was around some areas the S1 doesnt reach. However.... i did just pull the hair and dust off the swiffer and dump i in the middle of the room and set a zone for tbe S1 to clean..... and it kind of just balled it all up amd left it there. So, to a point, you are correct and perhaps it isnt the best at vacuuming uo dog hair. The difference with me is i couldnt see mine on the floor to begin with.

There are two robots that have exceptional obstacle avoidance. The eufy s1 pro and narwal freo z. Both are fine with cables, small toys, poop, cat vomit, socks on the floor ect. Freo z has slightly better avoidance but s1 has much better mopping.

Yes cords should be installed nicely, but usb charge cables tend to fall from bed/table, i have cats and cat toys on the floor. I assume people also have kids who leave things on the floor. I retired my last robot vacuum after it ran over cat puke and smeared it all over the house. Im asian so my floor is kept very very clean(i spend most of my time on the floor of the house). It sucked when i come back home and the robot is stuck on a low u shaped leg of a chair, an earphone my cat shoved off my desk, ect. The mop would be wet for hours while Im at work and start to smell by the time i am home to re dock it for mop cleaning/drying. I upgraded the eufy s1 pro and it has never been stuck on anything so far. If your floor is spotless, you obviously don’t need to listen to my advise the same way if you live in a studio apartment with minimal furniture, the lidar navigation advise doesn’t apply to you.

In my opinion, the Eufy S1 pro at $1000, would be the best value for money. P.S. I really do not think those high claims of 10,000-17,000 pa suction by Roborock are realistic or are needed for daily/weekly cleaning.

We are gonna go with the Eufy for now. I will report back. It will be here tomorrow!

What was your issue with the waste water tank? I've been very happy with it. (I mean as happy as you can be about a tank of dirty water.)

Oh! The one on robot. I was thinking about the one on the base. Yes, the one on the robot is awful. I had to get into it this weekend and even after watching the video four times struggled with it. 

We’ve got a Eufy S1Pro, and love it for the mopping, it mops better than the Tineco handheld. I got a robo purely for its mopping ability

Have you tried vacuuming in turbo or max mode? When I first got the S1 Pro, I also noticed it would leave things behind in standard mode on carpet. Since switching to turbo, it picks up a lot more. If that’s still not enough, consider the E25/E28 which has double the suction as the S1 and an extendable side brush. Or look for a vacuum with dual rollers which will have better performance on carpet.

Also recommend the S1 or S1 Pro. Mopping is really really good. I tried both the S1 and Pro versions and kept the Pro as object avoidance, mapping, and navigation is noticeably better with the S1 Pro.

Also recommend the S1 or S1 Pro. Mopping is really really good. I tried both the S1 and Pro versions and kept the Pro as object avoidance, mapping, and navigation is noticeably better with the S1 Pro.

Eufy S1 Pro. I have cats, messy teens with long hair, complex mapping inside of rooms, junk piles of miscellaneous kids stuff/cords, and different height insets under floor cabinets. It handles them all. Carpet, hardwood floors, linoleum, and a rug/runner on top of hardwood in front of my front door. It transitions well between mopping hard surfaces to vacuum only on the rugs. Only downside is that it can't move open doors to clean being them, which no robot vac can in the current generation.

Eufy s1 pro Ecovacs x8 omni (I think) Mova z50 ultra pro Narwal flow Basically look for devices with roller mops.

Sad you left out the best ones for non carpet lol \- Eufy s1 Pro \- Ecovacs x8 Omni (Very new so milage may vary) \- Switchbot s10 Coming soon (maybe): \- Narwall Flow \- Mova z50 pro (ultra?)

I love my S1 pro

I feel seen. I've gone through the same emotions. A 1000 dollar robot should have some minimal qualities that just work. I had Dreame x40 and it was impressive but then things didn't work. Too many sensors were wonky. It keeps beeping saying "charging" every few minutes. Didn't warn when it was out of water. Or when dirty water tank was overflowing. The Eufy S1 pro was the best at washing floors with a caveat of it did not go near edges. So I had a strip or 2 inches of dirty floor in the kitchen. Currently landed on Roborock Qrevo master but I learned to adjust expectations. It's first fun run I had to rescue it once and a couple of other times remove a small plastic wrapper that was caught in the roller and making a lot of noise. But it does a decent job. And their app is the best out there. I think this is as good a it gets for this era of robo vacuums. PS - none of them handle rubber mats well and all leave an inch of dirt around it as they try to climb on.

Pay the difference and get the $999 Eufy S1 Pro. It’s the mopping leader or wait until they get the e28, which had the roller style mop.

Eufy S1 Pro

Great mopping vacuum just have to keep it cleaned out. The internal tank gets gross easily.

I’d set my expectations for carpet very low unless you want to buy the Dyson, which doesn’t mop and has terrible navigation. The Eufy S1 Pro is a great mopping robot, terrible on carpet. Everything is a compromise.

You really can’t go wrong if you are willing to spend $1000+ and pick a flagship model. My personal experience is Narwal Freo Z Ultra has the best AI avoidance for things like cords or strings. The brush is also tangle free, allegedly. So that would be great for your cats. Get it at Costco so you can return it if it breaks two years from now or you just don’t like it. Currently on sale too for about $400 off. My second choice would Eufy S1 Pro if mopping is the most important to you. Wait for it to go sale at Amazon for $999. Its AI avoidance is very good, but carpet performance suffers. I’d recommend Roborock but I haven’t owned one yet that doesn’t run right over cords. I have the S8 Max V Ultra. No experience with Dreame or Ecovacs/Yedi. Stay away from iRobot.

There's trade offs to anything you buy. I disagree the S1 Pro is a nightmare for maintenance. I clean it once a week like everything else. It's fine. Here's how to clean it: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFVwWhZluRQ&t=213s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFVwWhZluRQ&t=213s) It's a poor vacuum performer, but so is the 10R compared to previous models. How much of your home is carpet? You can switch out its brush roll for the Eufy E20 brush to improve it. However, the biggest problem with the S1 Pro is it's been out for more than a year and it's getting long in the tooth. You'd be paying for old tech at this point. There's some new models coming this fall from Mova, Dreame and Narwal that have rollers. It may be worth the wait to see if there's one with better cleaning performance for carpeted areas.

Roller is fixed. It would need to extend to do edge cleaning.

Narwal Freo Z Ultra if you want as close to perfect obstacle avoidance and tangle free as you can get. It’s also good at avoiding cords and quiet. Their replacement accessories are ridiculously priced (look elsewhere). Not great on carpet. Eufy S1 Pro rains supreme as a mopping robot, and has decent avoidance but not as good as the Narwal. Terrible at carpet. Have yet to use a Roborock that doesn’t eat cords.

FYI, it was $999 just a few weeks ago. It’s a great mop, but not the best vacuum. You can sand down the edges of a C20 brush to fit in the S1 Pro, making better for carpet but that’s kind of a janky solution.

Most of the modern, flagships are pretty good at not bumping into furniture especially compared to your old Roomba. I’d look into the Dreame X40/X50, Roborock S8 Max V Ultra/Saros 10 or Narwal Freo Z Ultra. I might even consider the Mova P50 Pro. The Eufy S1 Pro is pretty bad as a carpet vacuum, but the best at mopping. It has much lower suction (8,000 PA) compared to most flagships that are in the 11,000-20,000 range. The best carpet robot vacuum is the Dyson 360, but there’s no mop and the AI navigation is pretty rudimentary.

I give Matic the Platinum award for industrial design. It's friendly, fun and blends in. Most people wouldn't even know it's a vacuum. The Gold goes to Narwal. They've really cared about this since the beginning and their competitors—Roborock Curv and DJI Romo—have copied them which I also really like. Silver goes to Eufy's S1 Pro. My family calls it the "Tron vacuum" because of its translucent plastics and illuminating ring. Bronze goes to the MOVA P and V line. I like the white version and I actually prefer the glossy because it's easier to wipe clean. I'd give the Dyson 360 Nav an honorable mention just because it looks beefy, like it's ready for business and comes in a cool color.

It’s still pretty basic but Robo’s is the best so far that I’ve used. I know the Eufy S1 (not pro) has it, but you could literally only tell the robot to start or stop. Nothing else. That’s Matter 1.3. You get rooms and a few other features with 1.4, maybe even being able to select mop and/or vacuum. Also, in iOS Beta 26 we now have charging status support.

95% of them are sponsored, so take that as you may. But the Narwal Freo Z is great at mopping as it can apply quite a bit of pressure for tile and returns to its base to wet/clean its mop pads often. It doesn’t just spin around dirty mop pads and rewet them. However, It uses a ton of water, even on its lighter settings and has poor edge mopping. Not great, but not the worst on carpet if you turn the settings all the way up. I find their cleaning algorithm annoying, but their AI avoidance is at the top. The Eufy S1 Pro is excellent at mopping (maybe the best!), terrible at carpet and lacks edge cleaning also. It’s a tank though with a nice app. I’m waiting on Roborock to do a roller. I like their app the best, but I just don’t care for rotating mop pads. I’ve been happy with my S8 Max V.

My Eufy S1 pro seems to do the [same thing](https://www.reddit.com/r/eufyS1Pro/comments/1grvcq0/s1_long_hair_handling_first_inpressions/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button).

Yep. I’ve had no issues with the Neato robot longevity. They outlasted the company. Botvac connected was still going strong except for battery and knackered side brush at 5 years (daily use). Replaced with a D7 when on offer and that’s still going strong 5 years on (battery still fine), except for the side brush dying again after year 2. Bought a D8 on offer for <€200 about the time Neato was folding for another area of the home, and that’s still going strong. Have just ordered a Eufy S1 Pro after seeing the first convincing mopping, so I’m hoping it can match the Neato longevity (but with working side brushes).

I have wood flooring, and a Eufy S1 pro. Works well. I find it cleans well and you can easily set how wet you want the mopping, and I don’t see any drips or wet patches from mine.

I’m not sure why a roller mop model wouldn’t work for you looking at those pictures. It might not get into all the nooks and crannies, but it would probably do 90% of the job. I have a Eufy S1 Pro (I’m in Germany), and I’m quite happy with how it performs for mopping and vacuuming (mix of wood, rugs and tiles) in a household of many kids and long-haired people, although it’s not quite as good on the rugs as my previous vacuum only (now a defunct company) Neato was. That said, they’ve just released details on a S2 Pro which is hyped to improve the vacuuming performance, so I’d hold on a few months for that if that appeals. Whatever you’re thinking of, I’d recommend setting your budget first, as there seems to increasingly be robots from €150 up to several thousand (the S1 Pro was ~€900 when I bought it a while ago). So worthwhile knowing what segment you want to aim for.

Look at the eufy s1 pro.

It’s worth mentioning that there is no perfect robot for all homes and surfaces. This is very much a rapidly developing area of technology. That said, I have the S1 myself. It’s not great on low pile carpet, and only ok at corners. But it is very good at cleaning hard floors and I’m very happy with it. What did you read?

It may be because of the low pile carpet. My S1 is not great at pulling out cat hair on low pile carpets, leaves lots behind. But on hard floors it’s perfect.

That is very unusual, mine is excellent on hard floors. No pet hair left at all.

Do you have pets? My S1 isn’t very good at pulling out worn in cat hair even on low pile rugs.  But the mopping and general performance on hard floors is top notch.

I’m thinking that if you routinely have quite muddy floors to clean up, then a horizontal spinning mop may not be good enough. The issue is that they don’t collect dirty water, and have to return to the base station to clean the pads. So by design they do kind of dilute and spread dirt around. Something like the eufy s1 pro may genuinely be much better, it collects dirty water and constantly cleans the roller. So cannot spread it. There are limits of course, I wouldn’t be sending my s1 to clean up a big mess of any description, robot cleaners are designed for regular and maintenance cleaning. Not a big pile of wet mud for example. But it should be able to deal with muddy paw prints no problem.

The s1 has its downsides as well, not the best at deep cleaning carpet, and doesn’t have extending arms or mops for better corner and edge cleaning. But on hard floors in general, it’s superb. And also don’t miss that the s1 has an ozone generator in the clean water tank, this combined with the cleaning solution can give a sterilising effect. Also prevents the dirty water tank from smelling nasty. It’s a great feature.

The real answer is the eufy s1 pro if you want the absolute best mopping.

Great review, it’s coming up to almost a year of owning the S1 pro for me, 204 hours of cleaning. It’s been very reliable and has worked perfectly. It does need a general bit of maintenance every 7-10 days, clean air filter, dirty water filter, empty dirty water etc. But it's worth it for the performance.

Carpet performance is bad with the standard silicone brush, the combo brush from the eufy e20 can be easily modified to fit I believe. But you will have to remove tangled hair from the brush yourself, during or after cleaning as there is no automatic function for this. As standard it’s bad at deep cleaning carpet, will struggle to remove cat hair on a low pile mat.

3 long haired cats, no kids. Run it at least every other day, but daily most of the time. Have all hard floors, takes about 70 minutes to clean the downstairs on deep mode.

This confirms what I’ve always thought, robots with spinning pads just dilute and spread the dirt around. Have been very satisfied with the mopping ability of my S1 pro.

I’ve got a eufy s1 pro and haven’t manually mopped my floors since I bought it 10 months ago. If there is a stain it can’t remove, then I’ll scrub that spot by hand. That aside, it keeps my hard floors spotless.

Mine is over a year old, no drips.

Hmm, I’m the opposite. Best robot vacuum I’ve owned and haven’t had any issues. The lifting chassis has been a game changer as well, hasn’t got stuck once, can make it into my bathrooms, and vacuum very high pile rugs. I also use the mopping solution and am very satisfied, everytime I change the water tanks I can tell it’s working and there aren’t any streaks, even on the edges by my floorboards. I have hardwood floors though, so maybe that makes a difference. Send it back and try something else! Maybe the Eufy S1 Pro Omni would be good for your situation, its mopping abilities are the best by a mile.

It's really not that bad.. I believe the recharge is same as the s1 pro. It takes many washing cycles before you go through one bottle. If it is an issue just add the liquid directly to the clean water tank. Of course you should be using Robovac friendly solution.

Wait for Eufy S1 Pro to drop in price. The price after the drop is $999.99. I have one, and its mopping performance on hardwood is superb.

I keep my garage dialed using the Eufy S1 Pro and it works great. I also have an epoxy type floor and need a robot that was better at mopping vs vacuum. This unit fit the bill.

Support was good for me. Techie did a remote firmware update and issue resolved

My Eufy S1 pro is awesome!

All I can say is I had my Eufy 15C Max vacuum for quite some time (almost four years), and then they came out with the: # eufy Robot Vacuum Omni S1 Pro [https://www.eufy.com/products/t2080111](https://www.eufy.com/products/t2080111) on Kickstarter and I had been doing all sorts of research on the solutions. And out of all of the version, this one got me excited. Additionally, not only did I get the reduced price - but I also got it further reduced with the accessories package and saved an additional £100 before purchase. What do I think of it? It is pretty amazing when I compare it to the old bounce-alot 15C Max, it has been a dream. Th only challenge is the maintenance of the materials - you gotta clean the dirt trap, the water tanks are pretty good for an entire month for my flat, and I have yet to use up the cleaning fluid after almost eight months. I can not say it is perfect - it does have its hangups with shoelaces and other material getting caught (like a piece of wet paper stopped the roller), but its maintenance has been a dream for the most part. I will say I love the fact that since I have had it, the floor never feels dirty - and I live near a main city road and grime will appear naturally. And just wait until it is pollen season - but my Omni get the job done. And yes, for FIVE more days - it is on serious sale ($500 off at the website).

Sorry - but unless you want a regular effort of cleaning the mops and discovering the hassle of the mops not working or the bot getting caught, go with the Eufy S1 Omni Pro. Unbelievable size, performance and the mop actually works. And the base station does not look like a Death Star, rather an elegant svelte station. Check out my review if you can in the Eufy subreddit.

euft s1 pro if you really want to wash. if you want to pretend to wash then go for any one with rotating brushes. (unless you have a lot of carpet, then just get the one with more suction power)

I think the S1 Pro uses the same tech the iPhones use for FaceID where it projects dots ahead of it. That’s why it’s so good at avoiding items on the floor; even in complete darkness with no headlight. We have 2 of these now as they are the good at navigation and obstacle avoidance. I appreciate they are expensive..

I have a long haired girlfriend and a golden retriever. I've had zero issues with hair getting into places it shouldn't. I often need to clean the tray where the robot washes its mop, as hair gets into the mop and is deposited there after washing. But I just run my fingers over it and take it to the trash. I'm very pleased with the S1 Pro. The basic functions are excellent, no need for fancy features.

Eufy S1 Pro was my choice after an extensive analysis. I have all tile floors and no carpets. Have 1 long haired dog and one long haired girl. Vacuum is on medium suction (setting 2 out of 4) and very please with the mopping. Mopping was my main goal.

The roller (on the Eufy S1 Pro) gets a constant spray of clean water and the dirt gets scraped of with every revolution. This ensures that the roller surface is as clean as it can get when touching the floor. Spinning pads however only get cleaned at the base station, resulting in dirty pads just spreading the dirt. The floor may look clean but the dirt is just evenly spread. Now I have a very dirty house, mainly the dogs fault but I also never take of my shoes as a go in and out very often. Even with the roller I have a color difference on the edges where the roller stops. but that is also because we do not clean manually very often. the robots helps a lot, but is not a 'never have to clean again' solution. + my tiles are light in color so a color difference due to dirt is easily visible.

I'm currently using the S1 pro. It was my choice when researching for one last year. Very happy with it. It seems that Eufy now has the e25 and e28 as successors to the S1 pro. Have not researched it. For mopping a roller mop is far more superior than rotating pads.

Hi, The new robots all have these tiny fingers that push the dirt to the center so the smaller blade can suck it up, and that works just fine. I have a long haired dog and a long haired girl. If I did not vacuum every week, there would be 'tumbleweeds' at the floorboard all across the room. I bought the Eufy S1 Pro (not the best suction) and the 'tumbleweeds' are all gone. Another brand/model that focuses more on suction will surely fit your needs. The S1 pro isn't know for it's best suction (I only have tiles, no carpets). Keep in mind that your not walking at the edges of your walls so the dirt at your floorboards is not stuck as much and is easily wiped by the small fingers. I also have a handheld vacuum with lights in front and I can clearly see it does not wipe all the way to the edges, no matter how powerful the suction is, you can see a layer of dust when the vacuum lights shine. It's the brush that pushes the dirt loose, and the fingers on the current designed robots do a good job with that. I've quickly searched some images of the Samsung powerbot to get an understanding of the blade and vacuuming. With your Powerbot, the blades are about 2cm away from your broads, the fingers on the current designs will go all the way. Just sharing my opinions and idea's. Hope it helps.

The only downside I have seen is it does mediocre at best on vacuuming carpet. If you have no carpet it is a solid choice.

i rarely use my stick vacuum since getting a robot vacuum. i’ll have to use it to clean around my bird cage because the robot vacuum can’t get all of the seeds out of the edges of the carpet but that’s about it. they are great if you have dogs that shed a lot, or even if you don’t. i have the eufy s1 pro which has the best mopping technology out there, and it keeps my hard floors so clean, but even before that when i had just a basic roomba 980 just having the vacuuming itself is a game changer. they don’t really “deep clean” and i still will go through and mop the edges of my hard floors and i will shampoo my carpets once in a while because i rent and they are old, but it will definitely give you more free time especially if you are someone that likes to have super clean floors all the time and you have pets. it also encourages you to keep your floors picked up so that the robot doesn’t get stuck on anything which will make your home feel cleaner as well. one of my favorite things about a robot vacuum is how it can get underneath the bed and other pieces of furniture that would normally be difficult to clean under. i would never be able to vacuum all the way under my bed, and now it gets done every day

Eufy S1 Pro is phenomenal. Went from an S7 to the Eufy and the Eufy pulled up black water. It's in an entirely different league compared to the others from a mopping perspective. Is middle of the road from a vacuuming perspective.

Mopping = Eufy S1 Pro (2 generations ahead of the competition at least) Vacuum = Roborock, any of the newer models beats everyone else out.

Depends on your flooring and needs If carpets - Roborock - best vacuuming particularly if you pair it with an auto empty dock (most newer models) If hardwood and no pets (Read not an inordinate amount of vacuuming) - Eufy S1 Pro - Best mopping hands down along with pretty good vacuuming

For mopping eufy s1 pro (average vacuuming) Vacuuming newer roborock ( below average mopping)

For mopping Eufy S1 Pro is the best, Roborock isn't even in the same league. For vacuuming Roborock is better. Eufy goes on sale once or twice a year for a thousand and happens to be on sale right now. Negatives of eufy is it isn't as good at corners and the vacuum is good not excellent. For mopping it actually picks up dirty water as it goes instead of just spreading it around like the roborock. It has clean water / dirty water tanks. Edit: They apparently just came out with a new model E28 that's an upgrade, don't think it's been reviewed by vacuum wars etc yet.

Eufy S1 Pro has a real mop in that it exerts downforce and keeps the dirty / clean water separate.

Roborock is best for pet hair, and the eufi S1 is best for mopping floors. Eify s1 pro is okay with pet hair, i have one, but I've seen reviews where the robo is better.

Roborock is best for pet hair, and the eufi S1 is best for mopping floors. Eify s1 pro is okay with pet hair, i have one, but I've seen reviews where the robo is better.

We love our Euphy s1. I have nothing bad to say about it other than it won't go under our couch, but our Roomba will.

Also the S1 build and look feels a lot more premium. When you feel and look at both robots the S1 is heavy and feels like a tank. The E25 felt very plasticy and lighter. My S1 is reliable, confident and consistent. It’s my 5th mopping robot vacuum and the best I have had.

Yeah I got a replacement fresh water tank a few days ago as my Ozone stopped working (visually was fine). That told me it is a consumable. I didn’t agree and they replaced it. New one works great.

Agreed. I take vacuumwars with a pinch of salt where the goal posts are always moving. Eufy S1 Pro has the best mopping performance according to multiple reviewers, but because it uses to much water or leaves to much water behind it loses in regards to mopping performance. Then because the rollers aren't as good on other manufacturers it can't be Eufy roller design which is good or makes the difference. Go figure. Could care less how much water is left below as it will dry on the floor or is used. Just want the best cleaning. Wish there was a chart with a break down of all his figures of all the vaccums he has tested which you could organise from top to bottom depending on your own criteria or needs. Still have my trusty iRobot S9+ which I would love to see some figures of a robot vac that beats it for deep carpet cleaning. Not saying there isn't but would love to have the aforementioned chart to see which vacs do.

The Eufy S1 pro Is truly amazing It uses clean brush technology and the new firmware allows it to clean right to the corner. Yes vacuuming is not the very best that’s out there. However it is good enough if you use a very good vacuum cleaner to prep the floor then it works really nice. You can just keep up with the vacuum as well and use the big vacuum less the floors are scrubbed sanitary clean.

The best cost no object vac-mop is the 3i S10 I had the Eufy S1 pro and the Flagship Eureka J 15 and the 3i is better at mopping and on strong or max suction is a great vacuum. You also don’t need to deal with a disgusting dirty water tank and also has a self filling clean water tank and incredible obstacle avoidance.

I have been using my 3i S10 robot for close to 2 months I have used and returned to Amazon the Eufy S1 pro Omni- which was great at mopping but terrible at vacuuming carpet- I also returned the Eufy X8 pro and Flagship Eureka J15. The 3i is the best robot so far it has incredible suction when you set it at either strong or Max. If you need serious mopping you can have it mop 2x I never filled the water tank since set up due to the dehumidifier and water distillation. Also no disgusting dirt water tank to smell and dump and the dirty water splatters everywhere. it also has excellent obstacle avoidance and a pretty decent battery

I believe the Eufy is better at getting out dried in stains. But it’s vacuuming performance is not as good as the 3i Set on strong or max. The S1 does get very close to the edge so it’s not a deal breaker. My floors are generally clean so I am not so concerned about getting out bad dried in stains- and my porcelain floors look like a sheet glass. My suggestion is you simply contact Eufy and ask for a subscription- this means you rent the S1 for 1 month and see if you like it. You pay $99 a month and when the S2 Comes out return the S 1 and get the S 2.

I returned my S1 pro Omni As I was not happy with the edge cleaning when mopping, poor carpet pick up and complicated waste water tank on the robot. I now use the 3i S10 and it is in another league as far as cleaning and vacuuming. Also it does not have a dirty water tank and you don’t even have to refill the clean water tank- I will be posting a video as I love this machine.

You can talk all you want- I have returned 5 robot vacuum mop robots 4 from Eufy including the S1 pro and Eureka J15 flagship The 3i S 10 that I am using now is better in every way The biggest complaint being carpet cleaning is overcome by making sure the carpet suction mode is set to max suction- which now rivals the cleaning ability of my upright SEBO G1 It mops great and makes it own water Also the dirty water gets distilled by boiling it and gets reused It works really well And customer support is very helpful and responsive.

I returned the S1 Pro due to poor carpet vacuuming and a poorly designed waste water tank on the robot. I had a. $400 coupon on Amazon and bought the 3i S 10 It is so far way better than the S1. Only problem is max suction for carpet drains the battery faster but - it has enough juice to do my mostly carpeted upstairs.

If you have porcelain tiles forget about the S1 pro. To get the floor clean you will need to use the deep clean setting. Unfortunatelythis will leave water streaks all over the shiny tiles.  Iv returned my first one as I though it qas faulty, the second one is the exact same. Only way to stop water streaks is use the minimal mop setting, which then won't even clean up small drink spills.  The hoo er part is good and the mop on mat tiles or timber is good. Just not on porcelain tiles

Yeah your floors are clean bc the dirt is in your dirty water tank. What don't you understand? You think the surfaces that absorb our foot juice are magically clean and bacteria free? Idk about the specifics of eufys failed design, but mama.... When you clean something, you're removing dirt, and it must go somewhere, which in the case of a mop, is the dirty water. These machines use ml of water when people use Liters to clean their floors. The sewage these things generate is concentrated in a way previous cleaning methodologies have avoided (have you ever used a Bissell crosswave or similar?) Having a dirty water tank onboard is a huge choice for eufy and I wonder why the industry leader didn't do that... And why all mopping robots require silver ion cartridges (to prevent biofilm buildup). I understand your concerns but you also must join us in reality.

I was in a similar boat 2 months ago, ended up with buying Eufy S1 Pro. 0 carpets. mopping was the primary decision. very satisfied.

\[Final Update\] Thanks Everyone for the recommendation 😁👍👍 I've had the Eufy S1 Pro for about 4 days now and can definitely say that I am impressed compare to the roombas (j7+ & 405) I've been using. The mopping roller definitely does a good job cleaning the dirt stuck in the grain of the wood floors and on my textured vinyl floors. The obstacle avoidance has been fantastic. The app has identified multiple areas with hanging cords except for the small ones that are just laying on the floor corner which I created a do not go zone to avoid. The only cons I have is that the vacuum roller is significantly smaller than the mopping roller so it doesn't pick up everything before it vacuums even with the two spinning brushes. Also, the vacuum isn't really the strongest unless it's on the highest setting which makes the device quite loud. Other than that, it's been a fantastic unit. I just wish these robot vacuum bases had much larger clean water and dirty water tanks so I wouldn't have to change them out almost everyday.

Unfortunately it has reliability issues

Vacuum stopped working Then in another device the water injection while mopping didn’t work

I had thought about him too, but: 1) I noticed that the lidar sensor does not recognize objects well on very thick and not smooth carpets; 2) I noticed that the track roll does not allow you to clean the dirt between the tile joints well, which Mova and Eufy do well (especially the former); 3) there has been a downgrade of the base which no longer has an auto-dispenser for detergent, touch controls and no electrolytic sterilization of the water. 4) on the software side there is no possibility of making it go to a wet area first with the floor cleaner and then go back with the vacuum, nor does it vacuum well near the feet of chairs and tables or desks; 5) the extensible propellers are missing during the suction phase to capture the crumbs at the edges (paradoxically you get there during the washing phase, but not during the suction phase). When they resolve at least points 3 and 5, perhaps with an "ultra" version, I will be convinced to take it. To date it still seems the best to me but in the rankings I am very close to Narwal Flow and Mova Z50 Ultra. My ranking: 1) Narwal flow 2) Mova Z50 ultra 3) Eufy S1 pro

If we're talking about the Roborock vibrating pads (I've never tried the round mopheads), my answer to your question is "sort of". I was happy with my S7 MaxUltra for several years, but the mopping was never better than juust good enough. It wasn't the best at tackling tough stains, it left streaks behind, etc. But it still did a serviceable job overall. However I recently purchased a Eufy S1 Pro, which uses a rotating mop arm. The arm squeegees itself while cleaning, and it separates the dirty water into a second tank that's in the robot itself. So for that style of robo mop, my answer is an emphatic "hell no". I've owned it for a few months, and the mopping performance still really impresses me. It actually works on tougher stains, it leaves behind virtually no streaks, it's more sanitary since it's always mopping with clean water, etc. It's by no means a flawless device and it has a lot of annoying quirks, but none of them are related to the fantastic mopping. It's just so much better, that I think rotating mop arms will be the default for flagship robot vacs in the near future (Ecovacs and Narwhal already have their own versions). But yeah, tl;dr: it depends on the company/robot/mopping style, but for rolling mop arms specifically I'd say that they're definitely advanced enough at this point. (And like another commenter said, the poop issue is connected to the robot's object avoidance. If a robot fails to identify poop and just rolls over it, of course it'll smear poop all over the place. But the same would happen if you were mopping by hand with your eyes closed. Judging the robot's mopping based on that doesn't make any sense.)

Already having the Eufy L60 SES for our Upstairs, carpet only area, I was looking into buying something for our downstairs and looking at the S1 Omni Pro due to it's mopping and also as we were already in the ecosystem, but it's lacklustre carpet cleaning and it's inability to do vac or mop only were a big no for me, being that half my house is carpet while the other half are tiles (And having 3 cats + 1 dog), so we opted for the X8 Pro Omni instead and I have been VERY happy with it. Our floors are always clean and the extendable mop means the corners and our skirting is cleaned too. I believe we have made the right choice. In saying that, if somebody had all hardwood floors and no carpet, I would likely recommend the Eufy over the Ecovacs as the carpet features aren't an issue in those households.

I have not noticed any excess water left behind on the X8 but you can adjust the amount used or leave it to AI to determine. I am unsure whether the Eufy has the same ability.   I think, based on your situation, that the Eufy might be better suited as you don't need the improved carpet cleaning and the Eufy has a larger mop head. It may not get the corners as it doesn't extend out but you  can always do a manual mop once a week. Our robovac doesn't replace our cleaner who still comes in once a fortnight for a proper deep clean of the hose either. 

Yep the S1 made me see that mopping had finally caught up, but I ended up going with the Deebot X8 Omni (Both using the roller) instead both are great but we needed a good vacuum too for carpets and the Deebot excels at it over the S1. it's so nice to come home to a vacuumed and wonderfully mopped home.

>I’m new to the robot vacuum world, but The Eufy S1 Pro seems to have a good system for mopping but lacks a bit with deep cleaning carpets. Thats why I went with the Deebot X8 Omni. Better vacuum performance, and roller mop is on par. If we had all tiling though, I'd go for the S1 purely on price alone.

I recently purchased the Eufy S1 Pro and have been in love with the thing since day 1. It looks cool, the mopping is phenomenal and overall does everything I need it to do well. While I was researching the Eufy for months before pulling the trigger, I also came across the 3i S10 Ultra and was very intrigued by this thing. I’d buy this over the Eufy if it wasn’t for its starting price and design. I got the Eufy from Amazon during their Black Friday week for $999. The s10 starts at 1899 but is currently on sale 1519. If the design were better than the Eufy, I would have payed the extra 500 dollars for it I have not seen this robot covered much on Reddit so I just wanted to bring it here for discussion! Here are it’s stand out features. 1. It automatically draws water from the air to refill its own water tank 2. It recycles the dirty water used for mopping, purifying it and using that same water to clean again (you’ll never have to add clean water to this robot for anything) 3. The mop roller is able to extend itself to the edge of baseboards for better edge to edge cleaning. 4. It also is smart enough to know if it’s cleaning up wet or dry messes and will stop the suction of the vacuum when it detects wet messes (something the eufy currently does not do) 5. It also has much higher PA rating at 13000 compared to the Eufys 8 i believe. What do you guys think? Eufy? Or S10?

I agree also another reason why I chose Eufy

Roller mops are better because most if not all robots with roller mops, also clean the mop in real time while it cleans. This way the mop pads aren’t just smearing dirt around. If your budget is also 1k look at the Eufy S1. To date it has the best roller mop system.

To follow up on my Eufy recommendation. The S1 is on sale right now for $799. The S1 Pro is also on sale for a 1k which is what I would get honestly. That’s a steal.

To follow up on my Eufy recommendation. The S1 is on sale right now for $799. The S1 Pro is also on sale for a 1k which is what I would get honestly. That’s a steal.

Certainly the e28 now. It seems to be better on paper than the S1 pro. I just wish that it had the ozone generator for the clean water like the S1 Pro does. Curious to see what they do for the S2.

I just got a Eufy S1 Pro and it does a good job, keeping up on the day to day. It mops and vacuums based on the floor type. I had to change the default setting to empty the dust pan into the base station every 250 sq feet instead of the default setting, of I think 700 sq ft, then it started to really get it all. It’s also great at going around things it should vacuum, in case dog or kid toys are left out. The mop feature is great with a roller that self cleans. If mopping is not a need, the roborock and Dreame brands are supposed to have great vacuum performance. I still have to use my Miele or Stick vacuum occasionally, but not everyday. I have 1 Berner, 1 cat, and 3 kids and it has changed my life, lol.

We got a eufy s1 pro last year. Originally wanted the Roborock QRevo but it wasn’t yet available in the U.K. at the time. Have a dog and child. I think the S1 pro’s obstacle avoidance is much better since it uses a camera. It runs every morning and has been able to handle all the weird crap that’s left on the floor bar baby sock which seems to foil the robot every time.

I've just gone for the S1 Pro on discount. It's been around for a while and there are a significant number of independent reviews on it. The E28 may be great but there hasn't been enough time to see what issues come up, and I wasn't prepared to take that gamble.

I understand your pain - of all the home appliances and technology I've done research on before purchase, robot vacuums have been the most bewildering. A few factors here include: * The sheer number of features they have * Robot vacuums that perform well in some household conditions are sometimes badly tripped up by others * Several brands (especially Roborock) have a ridiculous amount of models, differentiated by a single letter * Most of the leading brands are new and the track record of customer service and reliability is often patchy * The social marketing strategies of companies are sophisticated and can appear to be independent reviews, comments etc. As best I can tell, more money doesn't *always* equal better cleaning - but it does buy models that are better at self maintenance, and have better object avoidance. Note "object avoidance" is different to "navigation" and the mapping of floors. If you have a dog with a dodgy tummy, object avoidance goes up the priority list. I ended up getting an Eufy S1 Pro - that's partly because we only need it for hard floors and pet hair, and not carpet where it doesn't perform as well; and partly from anecdotal comments that they have ok customer support (relatively speaking). Have only had it for a few days but so far so good. Otherwise I would've gone a Roborock but you really need to know the *exact* model name you want. One decision I'm happy with is that I bought my robot vacuum from a physical retailer with a good reputation for customer support and returns. For me, there were just too many stories of issues to risk buying on, e g., Amazon and then being at the mercy of the manufacturer after 30 days. I know that doesn't provide you with all the answers but hope that helps with your decision.

I ended up getting the S1 Pro about a month ago, as we likewise only need it for hard floors and a couple of short pile rugs - apparently it's not great at cleaning carpets. I think it's doing a great job of vacuuming and mopping, including mapping and obstacle avoidance. But I did have to get YouTube advice (not from Eufy) to sort out an EB1J error which can occur when the vacuum is trying to empty out the dirty water after mopping. I avoided the Eufy x8 Pro Omni model, and Evovacs as a brand, as there seemed to be a lot of issues for them across the forums. I would consider a Roborock though. Whatever you get, I'd buy from a good bricks and mortar retailer who takes returns. I think there's so much that can go wrong with robot vacuums, you want as much consumer protection as you can get.

I have the Eufy S1 pro. It does a really good job at mopping and vacuuming. The mop is basically the same roller mop system as the Tineco mop/vacuum, which I also have and love. I still have to vacuum carpets once a week or so (I have a dog that sheds a ton), but I don’t mop much at all anymore.

eufy pro s1 is a combo and it is very good!

Probably not, i got it for 1k over the last Amazon prime day.

I got Eufy S1 pro recently and love it.

I have a Eufy L70, and other than having to replace the battery after three years, it worked really well. Would clean 1000 sq/ft on one charge (but barely). I put the L70 downstairs and bought a C20 for upstairs, as I wanted a better mopping experience (automated). Honestly, it was horrible. Battery would die after 45 minutes of cleaning, on STANDARD suction. It would travel five feet, and then do an entire spin, or two, then go another five feet and do it again. And this was after creating the map and already having cleaned a few times. It's like it never learned and always forgot where it was. Suction was poorer than the L70, for sure. I'll give it to Eufy, though, they offered a full refund and pre-paid label to send it back, which I did. I thought about the X10 as a replacement as it had better reviews, but I finally opted for the S1 Pro during this Black Friday sale. Reviews were very positive about it and it seems like it will last longer than the C20 and perform better.

I agree. So does my eufy s1 pro. VacuumWars rocks.

We have an eufy s1 pro and a shedder and an eleven year old. We love it. Our 1k sq ft of tile love it. It does great on rugs. I can’t compare it - it’s our first machine.

Our Eufy S1 Pro does all that quite well.

We just bought a longish hair Moroccan rug and our Eufy S1 Pro took quite a lot of hair off of it. We made it a no go zone.

We have the Eufy S1 Pro. We’re quite happy with it except edging and some plated steel parts that come in contact with the water system and are rusting. The improvements that you outline are interesting and a good step forward.

Can’t comment on anything other than our Eify S1 Pro - we have 1500 sq ft or so of Mediterranean style tile with a sort of deep groove between each approx 12” x 12” tile and the mopping/ vacuuming is great. It’s our first robot so I can’t compare it to anything less.

Last summer we bought the Eufy S1 Pro for the mopping / drying the mop feature along with the return to dump dirty water / rake in fresh feature and think it does a great job. The vacuuming is also very good. We only have small area rugs and almost 2k sqft of tile….. We don’t have long pile carpets and sand… I’d buy it again and I’d turn to Vacuum Wars to see what they say the next time I want to buy. Last thought: The next one I buy I want to be able to plumb it to a drain and a fresh water inlet. I also want a much larger vacuum “bag” or volume and a self-cleaning debris filter on the mop so the machine can be autonomous when I’m not there.

Vacuum wars is not trusthable anymore. S1 pro is still really a good choice

Has anyone had any customer service interactions? What’s the wait time for a response. I have a wife s1 pro and it works amazing, but breaks even more amazing. I cannot take the lack of phone support and long wait time for messages, and I’m returning it for a refund.

Hardwood floors are definitely where eufy S1 Pro shines. Its mopping does an excellent job on them. About the scratches, my floors only have a few near the front door, caused by shoes but not robotvac. You can set it from the app to vacuum first before mopping to ensure there’s no grit in the mop pads.

80% (for now) I’m sticking with the Eufy S1 Pro Omni. Those new releases look tempting, but without solid reviews I won’t jump on it.

The S1 pro is good at mopping and obstacle avoidance, but its performance and features scores were nowhere near other flagships, it also tended to get stuck a lot, it is currently ranking #26

It has the most tested software, more so than the l40. 6400mah battery, 4.0l water bin, tricut brush that increases pickup, quieter than most robots, better price than any other. Really good mopping, auto cleans mop pads every x sqft. Good obstacle avoidance. Good carpet performance. Eufy s1 pro is a close second if mopping is what you’re looking for. However if you are looking for a robot that will last you time without wanting another (happens to all of us) for me the dreame x40 ultra scratched that itch. Sorry if you disagree, but I’ve had 4 robovacs and I am a software engineer. This is the most amazing piece of tech I have ever seen.

I agree. But I will say, I’ve had 3 roborocks, eufy s1 pro (temporarily) and the x40 was the best for me. I guess that’s all we can really do. Now I’ve only ordered over eBay for the x40 the rest were Amazon (I got a refurbished x40). And I’ve had issues. I guess the solution to the overarching message is: make these cleaners better, instead of suction, quality, I think the biggest innovation is going to be the roller mop. But time will tell.

If obstacle avoidance is what you care about, I’d recommend eufy over Roborock. S1 Pro’s vacuum performance might not be the best out there, but it’s definitely good enough for daily cleaning. And getting it at this price is such a steal! I bought it without any discounts and even had second thoughts while waiting for delivery, thinking I spent too much. But thankfully, its performance, especially the mopping, completely won me over. My place is always nice and clean with it.

I add a splash of mouthwash to the dirty water tank after every time I clean it. It makes a big difference in my opinion. The ozone cleaning on the S1 Pro only sanitizes the clean water tank, so it won’t make much of a difference for the dirty water tank and it still stinks.

Good to know! The S1 pro is clearly an awesome robot. Hard to argue that someone should pick it over the newer and less expensive E28/E25 though. They just have more features and better overall cleaning. That said, if I already had an S1 pro, definitely no need to upgrade.

It isn’t tho. Objectively. Mopping sure, vacuuming is garbage. Also maintenance is through the roof compared to a qrevo for example

Shame the maintenance and the shitty vacuuming

I’m a bit skeptical about the rubber flooring, I could be totally wrong but I’m not sure if mopping that with a robot will actually pick up the dirt from it? Same about the vacuuming. In any case camera or not the robot locates itself by the lasers system so as you mentioned if the space is large enough to not find a reference any robot will get lost unless you go with roomba (prob the only use case where they are not shit). Since you are getting several robots (eventually) I would go for spinning. You will have a lot less to maintain and clean on the dock. I might even recommend Eufy S1, it has better obstacles avoidance since you will use it in a gym, and better mopping since it has roller, though vacuuming is quite sh1t. Lastly, again since you might be getting several, I wouldn’t go for 2025 models since you will spend a lot of extra money for nothing mostly. Curv/Edge or Qrevo Master if hair tangling is not an issue will give you same results for much less money.

The only thing you mentioned about “your situation” is the type of flooring you have. Have you got kids? Or long hair people in the house or dogs or none of that? Are you messy are you tidy? I mean do you need the robot to be thorough with the carpet or with mopping or with obstacles avoidance. That’s what someone should say about their “situation”. The S1 pro is a nightmare for maintenance and vacuuming and hair tangling is very poor. Mopping is excellent. And the OA is pretty good. The 10R is a good all around and unless you have dogs with muddy paws every day or walk with shoes inside the house then I hardly doubt you will notice any difference in mopping between eufy and this one. Another alternative is the QRevo Edge or Curv or CurvX.

Alright then if you don’t mind about the maintenance on the S1 pro then it doesn’t get better than that mopping wise. You could also check S1 which has a bit worse obstacles avoidance than the pro and it’s a bit cheaper. Another one with roller mop is the Z50 from mova. They have excellent price per value. Another one with roller is ecovacs X9 or E25 and E28. IMO I would stay away from ecovacs their navigation app and mapping history has been shit through the years, it’s somewhat better now but you still see people with those issues.

Alright then if you don’t mind about the maintenance on the S1 pro then it doesn’t get better than that mopping wise. You could also check S1 which has a bit worse obstacles avoidance than the pro and it’s a bit cheaper. Another one with roller mop is the Z50 from mova. They have excellent price per value. Another one with roller is ecovacs X9 or E25 and E28. IMO I would stay away from ecovacs their navigation app and mapping history has been shit through the years, it’s somewhat better now but you still see people with those issues.

So, ecovacs has a track record of fucking up the app map and navigation, it’s not even the top 3 or 4th in the market and with Mova gaining traction probably is even moving to 5th place, I would consider narwal before that. Eufy is good but you mentioned least maintenance and S1 pro is a hell for cleaning the built in water tank. So personally I would go with Dreame or even Mova P50 ultra and P10 for more bang for the buck. On the roborock side I would say QRevo edge/curv and QRevo Pro maybe

Returned an Irobot i4 +evo and got the eufy S1 pro, glad I did. I have also owned two other robo vacs before this and dont notice the vacuum function issues mentioned but I dont doubt them, just dont worry about that. The hard floors shine, I do notice that. Paid $1010 plus tax after waiting on the Amazon sale in October.

s1 pro is purely amazing imho.

The eufy e25 and s1 are solid IMO. Eufy has a fix for the water drop issue and the s1 is very dependable. E25 can get up some stubborn stains from my 6 and 8 yr old. Under the dinner table and in their art area. I can also speak for eufys support being very responsive for their products.

So with eufy you’d be able to set multiple schedules per day. With shark you’re limited to 2. But if mopping is a priority I’d do the eufy s1 or the eureka j20 with the rolling mops.

I got it for 999 and it’s amazing. We only have one rug downstairs so it was more for the mopping features with 3 young kids. I don’t have any issues with the vacuum for our purposes but we sweep or vacuum (with a Dyson stick) the large messes. I went back and forth on different robot vacuum/mop combos and finally had settled on the S1 because mopping was most important and I don’t think it can be beat in that department at the moment.

I just got the S1 to clean up after my German Shedder. Most of my house is hard wood so I cant speak to carpet cleaning but the S1 is great on bare flooring. Not sure how long the bag will last before full but if its like my x10's it will take a couple months. Stay away from the x10 as the hair gets pulled into the wheels and causes them to jam up and eventually break. They seem to have fixed this issue on the S1.

Eufy is aware, they already are redesigning the dirty water tank. 

No, But the Eufy S1 suffered the same issue. They also redesigned the tank and users got it for free. There is no timeline, I also don't know if Eufy is going to contact me or if I should check in periodically.

I just ordered the new non-pro EUFY S1 after evaluating both the X8 and the Eureka J 15. For $799 it felt like the best bang for the buck at this point in the game. Good luck.

The Eufy S1 is a great robot…. I have the non pro model for about a month now… so far so good 😊

Garbage compared to the eufy S1 which is $799 and a far superior robot. The shark app is probably the worst in the business. Avoid.

Never once had a hair tangle with the eufy S1 and its superior to dreame in every way possible

The Eufy S1 changed everything with the mopping capabilities and design. The Eufy E25/28 new models further advance this technology. It’s just finally getting better.

Some people are still reporting drips with the new tank though, and some people reported drips with the S1 lineup. I just meant in general this seems to be a common complaint with this style robot vac/mop at the moment. No doubt there are solutions, and lucky that eufy designed the 25/28 in a way that the dirty tank could be replaced. Not sure that's the case with other brands.

I would look into the Eufy S1. It has without a doubt the best mopping of any robot vacuum. Especially with how much hard floors you have. The Eufy S1 isn’t anything special for vacuuming. It’s just fine, probably slightly above average. But the mopping is borderline magical lol. I don’t know details about battery and stuff like that so dyor I wouldn’t really recommend iRobot. That’s a “buy it for the brand name” kind of thing that doesn’t give many benefits.

i have the eufy x10 it works well at vacuuming hair and avoiding everything else. i wanted the s1 for superior mopping because this robot doesnt do all that good a job.

I wanted a roller mop and had a tough call between you and the Eufy S1. I ended up with Eufy because of the dock and the ability to go a week without refilling the water. I wanted something requiring less maintenance. Why did you decide against the auto emptying dock? (I’m not entirely thrilled with Eufy and am actively considering if it’s going back … so I’m interested in this thread!)

I’m a product manager, so I understand there is no single solution for … well, anything honestly. I appreciate the peek behind the curtain. (My wife hates the size of the eufy s1 base station.) Still in the running, but my only real concern is refilling the water. At 1,300sqft of mopping, it couldn’t even complete my pretty modest ranch house in one go.

The stair lift is interesting if it can work with multiple of their vacs. Our S1 is very good, although Eufy has a product spread problem … what’s the premium model? E28? S1 (which can’t do the fancy maps)? We don’t have a problem with the low auction of the S1. The edge mopping sounds nice though.

Is this a IKEA carpet? I think i have the same and my old S7 max Ultra had no problems with it. My new Eufy S1 also has no problems with it. The new Roborocks with lifting wheels would be best option for high pile carpets.

I have a eufy S1. I chose it because I wanted something that was near-flagship, but <$1000. I also really wanted a roller mop as opposed to spinning mop pads. I hated the idea of smearing dirty pads around the floor. I've had it for about a month and am in love after replacing a very, very old Ecovacs Deebot which had no mapping nor navigation. The improvement is night and day.

Some of them, yes. Some, not so much. The best design seems to be the roller design. There's only like two models with it, one of them being the Eufy S1, which is fantastic at mopping, I'd say it is as effective as manual mopping, if not better. Spinning pads can be a good option too, but stationary or vibrating pads are not good. One think I've grown to dislike is the water tanks. For me, the clean water on my Eufy lasts a few days, and on other vacuums I tested they lasted about a week. The dirty water also needs frequent emptying and also smells pretty bad, even after just a few days. The base stations need periodic cleaning too, and in the case of the Eufy S1, the vacuum itself also needs periodic cleaning, about once every month for me.

Roborock or Dreame, Eufy only if it's the S1, NEVER shark

Roller mops hands down. Are there some screwed up roller mops? You bet! Eufy S1, E28 and E25 are great. So are the Ecovacs roller mops.

Mid-range/flagship models with spinning mops and flagship rollers/tracks: DREAME (spinning mops) - Dreame L10s Ultra - Dreame L10s Pro Ultra Heat - Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 - Dreame L20 Ultra - Dreame L40 Ultra - Dreame L40s (Ultra -> Ultra AE -> Ultra CE) - Dreame L50s Ultra (flagship track/roller mops) - Aqua 10 Pro Track (Asian market, using a track mop style) - Aqua 10 Ultra Roller Complete (NA market, 1st tier, using a roller mop style) - Aqua 10 Roller (NA market, 2nd tier, using a roller mop style) MOVA (spinning mops) - Mova S20 Ultra - Mova E30 Ultra - Mova P10 Pro Ultra - Mova P50 Ultra (Asia-Pacific market) - Mova P50 Pro Ultra (flagship) - Mova P50s Ultra (slimmer design, currently available in the EU market) - Mova V50 Ultra Complete (flagship) (flagship track mops) - Mova Z50 Ultra (currently available in the EU market) - Mova Z60 Ultra (coming soon) ROBOROCK (spinning mops) - Qrevo Curv (CurvX 'slimmer design' -> Curv -> Curv S5X) - Qrevo Edge (Edge -> S5A) - Qrevo S5V - Qrevo Slim - Saros 10 (flagship) - Saros 10r (2nd tier flagship) - S8 MaxV Ultra (last year's flagship) NARWAL (spinning mops) - Narwal Freo X Ultra - Narwal Freo Pro - Narwal Freo Z10 - Narwal Freo Z Ultra (flagship) - Narwal Freo Z10 Ultra (flagship, currently available in the EU market) (flagship track mop) - Narwal Flow (currently available in China and the NA market) ECOVACS (spinning mops) - Deebot N30 Pro Omni - Deebot T30 Pro Omni - Deebot T50 Max Pro Omni (roller mops) - Deebot X8 Pro Omni (last year's flagship) - Deebot X9 Pro Omni (this year's flagship) - Deebot T80 Omni (mid-range model) EUFY (roller mops) - Eufy S1 (flagship, good mopping but bad vacuuming) - Eufy S2 (coming soon, upgrade from S1) - Eufy E28 (with a spot cleaner) - Eufy E25 (without a spot cleaner) iROBOT (flagship roller mop) - Roomba Max 705 Combo (coming soon in the NA market)

I would just wait a little bit. The eufy is not that impressive. Drink the kool aid if you like but it can’t do edges well and its obstacle avoidance is garbage. It was designed to look fancy so it gets stuck in corners and such especially around carpet if it even goes on the carpet. Both narwal and ecovacs have models coming out with the same technology that look to actually do edge cleaning and maybe have some obstacle avoidance. The non rollers are old tech imho

It comes Monday. The eufy went back because it ate cords, lanyards, and shoelaces like it was its job

looks like a eufy s1? thats what we have and its amazing

We have had our s1 for a week. So far it's doing a 'good' job. It doesn't quite get into all the corners or hard against some cabinetry/walls but it is pretty good. The mopping appears to be very good and the state of the dirty water that you tip out is purely revolting which tells you it's doing its job. We haven't had an issue with a lack of sucking on our hardwood floors, but to be fair haven't really tried on the carpet in the bedrooms. We were having an issue with the unit not wanting to disengage off the dock which the official solution was sticking opaque sticky tape over the fall sensors which I thought was a pretty poor and unprofessional solution. Especially for the cost of the machine.

I had the Roborock Qrevo Pro and it vacuumed well and emptied itself. I ended up taking it back because, though vacuuming is part of the priority, the main priority is mopping for me. The Roborock doesn't actually pick up the mopping water, so basically just pushing around what it already mopped until it gets back to its station to clean itself. So in areas like my laundry room with tile the dirt would catch on the edges of the tile leaving a residue that made the floor looking dirtier than it was previously. I've done a bunch of research, and I will be getting a eufy with the Hydrojet system. I have 6 dogs (2 of which are Great Pyrenees), so there's LOTS of hair, but my rumba does an ok job with that when it works more than once a day. BUT the dogs also bring in icky paws at times, so I really want a robot one that cleans and sucks up its dirty water and continuing to clean with fresh water. The eufy's fit the bill. I currently have a CrossWave cordless max wet dry vac, which cleans with fresh water and vacuuming up the dirty water, and though it's not a robot it provides the type of clean floors that I'm looking for in a robot vac as well. The eufy was the only one that I saw that operated in this way.

We bought our Eufy robo vac/mop last June, since then it's cleaned: 428 Times 317h3m 158380 ft² I would say that the investment was more than worthwhile.

I have 2 eufy mop + vacs and a regular shark. I think they’re amazing! They’re like little drunk robots that get into situations. If I had the dough I’d go for one that empties automatically.

Eufy makes great ones and has a very easy app to use. Get one with the emptying station and you can leave it untouched for months. Be sure to follow maintenance recommendations - clean out dust bin every N hours, that sort of thing. If you go that route and have a dog (or kid) that sometimes leaves a mess that would make a bigger mess getting vacuumed, time the scheduled cleanings for after you've been around and had the chance to pick up small stuff and make sure there's no messes.

Gentle cleaning can make some of the parts last longer than they say - in particular the ones with soft rubber/silicone seals. I bought generic (non Eufy brand) bags for my self-emptying station and they work great.