MOVA - P10 Pro Ultra

Yes, and the mova p10 pro ultra is basically the dreame L40 ultra So whichever you can buy cheaper, get that. (If you're in California, the L40 is on sale for $449 at any store until mothers day? Comes with a few accessories)

It was fine but I returned it for 2 reasons 1) not great in corners (as expected) 2) if I forgot to pick up a wire, this thing was gonna send me an alert while I was at work telling me " mop pad came off" The L40 was on sale this week so I upgraded.

I can't speak for BIFL but I've had great success with our Mova P10 pro ultra. We have hair tumbleweeds all over our house and it picks them right up. No clogging or tangling so far.

Yes I have a P10 Pro Ultra but the new one coming the p50 pro ultra is basically an x50 and you can pre order it for $859 i believe. Wish I had waited for that. Might still get it tho cos why not

I have had the P10 Pro Ultra since Christmas. It's been great. Love it so much and like you I did all the research, almost bought a roborock, actually bought a eufy x10 and then end up canceling it when I found out about Mova. Apparently it's a dreame sub brand. Go look on the dreame sub reddit, there's a side by side with the Dreame x40 and the Mova P10 Pro Ultra. https://www.reddit.com/r/Dreame_Tech/comments/1h3b4hg/any_input_on_the_mova_line_in_general_and_the/?rdt=53760

I've had it since Christmas and it's been great for me but another user is not having a great luck with theirs so and posted about it here. I guess it's mixed at this point.

Man I was in your shoes about a month ago. I started thinking yeah let me get something cheap. We have no pets, 50% carpets and 50% hardwood. Started off cos I saw a nice mid rage Qrevo S from Roborock. One was $300 brand new on marketplace. Missed out on that deal. Then bumped myself up to the top of the midrange since i realized object avoidance is important having younger kids who sometimes leave toys everywhere and im not always in the mood to pick up before bed time, since it was Christmas the Eufy X10 was around $550 so I decided on that after my research. Luckily a few good folks posted about the Mova P10 Pro Ultra at that same time. This is a flagship clone of the Dreame X40/L40. I was so happy, I canceled my eufy order and went with that instead and I'm very happy and it was cheaper than the midrange eufy, came out to $504 for me. I've had it a few weeks so far, I've been so happy with it that I went ahead and purchased another Mova, the Mova S10 for my basement. It's mostly carpet but for the price of $120 and 7000 pascals of power, couldn't beat it. So yeah in conclusion you start at midrange but you're going to end up wanting all the extra features and since object avoidance is a priority for you (which was the same for me, kids leaving stuff everywhere), I'd look into a high end midrange, a last year flagship or a flagship clone.

I've had the P10 Pro Ultra for a couple of months and look at it as this beautiful machine with a countdown clock plastered on it because I, as mentioned by some others, have been unable to find any accessories (especially bags). I see someone here mentioned that it is very similar to a Dreame L40 Ultra. Has anyone actually purchased and used L40 supplies on their Mova P10 Pro Ultra with success? Might be too soon to ask but I thought I'd try. Example (from many): [https://www.amazon.com/Accessories-Replacement-Compatible-Ultra-Cleaner/dp/B0DKHQJ1BC/](https://www.amazon.com/Accessories-Replacement-Compatible-Ultra-Cleaner/dp/B0DKHQJ1BC/)

I've only had this a day but really impressed with it. Its half the price of my Roborock S7 Ultra and its got better vacuuming and mopping. The design of the dock is better as it makes maintenance a lot easier with the removable section. I don't have pets but house is 50/50 carpet/tile and no issues with vacuuming or mopping or navigation so far. It did once think the grout between the tile was a wire or cable and try to avoid it.

I was in the same situation with my Roomba the replacement parts didn’t make sense. I just got the Mova p10 pro ultra and it’s done a great job without breaking the bank.

Just want to come circle back around and say I got the Mova P10 Pro Ultra and it works, it gets under the cabinets! It didn't get all the way under there at first but after I turned off collision avoidance it did. With the other robots I tried that and it didn't work. Very pleased with the Mova and will be keeping it. Been running it for about a couple weeks now and it does a great job overall. It is pretty thorough and doesn't require any intervention at all, which is exactly what I wanted. Only complaint is it doesn't quite always pick up ALL the dust and dirt, but generally gets like 99% and leaves everything feeling very clean.

Thanks! I was reading through other posts last night and saw what you've been saying about those models so I went ahead and ordered the Mova to try it. Really appreciate your feedback. Hoping it works as described!

Awesome, thanks! I have it and from what I've been told and can see it's essentially a rebranded Dreame L40. It's been working great for me so far. Interested to see how it really compares based on your tests.

I just returned my S1 and got the mova P10 ultra pro. While I prefer a roller mop AND my thought was the extendo-arm for the sweeper and mop were not needed, they really work. Additionally having the built in camera is great for my situation.

I got the same robot! Dock is literally the exact same model number as the dock on the X40. I really just want them to add the feature to leave the mop pads at the base

It truly is an amazing robot! I got it at $500ish and so worth it

Mova P10 Pro Ultra specifically is better, the P10 Ultra is a slightly cheaper model

It's not the best all around if the X50 is better... Also not the best value because the P10 Pro Ultra is still better

Not best price now that mova P10 pro ultra exists

I honestly think this is true and most people should get the p10 pro ultra. The only reason I ended up with the p50 was because the p10 was out of stock.

The Mova P10 pro ultra is the best bot for the money. If you can swing the price, it's the one to get. The Dreame L10S Ultra gen 2 [can be found on eBay for $350](https://ebay.us/m/iTkvvP) at the moment, which I personally think edges out the Mova in value. However you will lose the hot water mop washing, extending side brush, self-cleaning dock, improved obstacle avoidance, and remote camera viewing features of the Mova. (Mova is a sub-brand of Dreame, btw)

Roborock mapping is really strong. MOVA p10 pro ultra seems like a downgrade, but if the suction numbers are accurate, I guess I’ll take it. The battery is very underpowered for the level of suction so cleaning does have to be spread out, and mop pads need to be upgraded to the Roborock style, imo

I’ve been playing with my P 10 Pro ultra for several weeks and it’s disappointing compared with the Roborocks.  The sweeper arm doesn’t do anything, it doesn’t even rotate on my robot, except in very rare conditions that I can’t predict. The bigger issue is that the paths are not as tight and overlapping.  When I look at the cleaning paths with the MOVA On the tightest setting with the max number of passes (x3) It has nowhere near the coverage of the qrevos and the carpet is not clean.  The Revos get really tight around legs while the MOVA barely tries to approach.  I think the people who think these are great robots are ones who are new to robot vacs or else have come from Roomba or some less tech -evolved brands.  My 5300 kPa Roborock qrevo outperforms this MOVA on every run, in every situation.  Trying to figure out how to send it back without having to pay shipping.

Both my Qrevos are much quieter than the p10 ultra and actually leave the carpets looking clean.

That’s great. I paid 605 for the p10 pro ultra on Amazon, tax inclusive. It wasn’t prime so I’m not certain about how returns will go as far as far as shipping- Good for you!

I received mine yesterday. Setup & app configuration was nice & easy. Compatible with my Google Pixel 8 Pro. Mapping is top notch, visuals through the app aren't disoriented, the camera feature is really cool! Carpet detection & mop raising works like a charm. Mopping makes a noticeable & pleasing difference. After an hour use of both mopping & vacuuming, the battery life went down to 48%. Navigation was shockingly accurate. The device goes back to its Homebase to refill, empty, wash & dry, then resumes its cleaning. Sound level isn't quiet, but it's far from loud, definitely not a bother even on its highest suction feature. The Homebase is really tall, it's just a little higher than my coffee table, I'm 6'2 & the base goes up just above my knees. I'd say it's between 2.5-3.5 feet (rough estimate, I'm at work rn & can't look at it 😂). Luckily, I have space for it. I've used it 4 times so far & it's an absolute gem of an underdog compared to the competing brands. I purchased on Amazon Canada, which has a $750 off discount, got it for $960. I don't have pets, just 4 roommates, so I'm mainly using it on the main floor, since that's the communal area, which includes, bathroom, living room, kitchen & dining room. Mainly all wood & tile, but have a couple Persian rugs. Buy now while it's on sale! & Thanks to this community for bringing this to my attention & sharing your input. I do have a question though... Are there any substitutions for the cleaning solution, ie Mr Clean, Pledge, Lysol, Pine Sol etc.

I got the Mova P10 Pro Ultra a few weeks ago and I’m loving it. $500 (US) on Amazon. It seems like it goes on sale like once a month or so.

What would you like to know about it? I just had it finish cleaning, and I'm still satisfied. Had it for 2 weeks. Not perfect, but then again not sure what is.. for the price of it i found that it made sense. i spent so much time watching reviews that I wish I just bought one sooner lol One new negative thing I found, it can handle hardwood and carpet no problem as it lifts the mop. It just might drag its mops on thick carpet, which I have on another floor.. I just remove it's mop pads before doing that floor now as it can't lift them high enough for thick carpet.

Yea, I totally understand. I can try to give more info below, but please keep in mind that I didn't look too much into roborock, and I'm sure it's probably just as good or even better. Anyways, since that mova model is based on the dreame x40 Ultra, then watch reviews on that to help you decide. The only difference is that the x40 costs way more. It can drop its mop pads at the base, and it has a bigger battery. For your type of floor, I think it will do great. It maps quick, it works great once you know what you like after some runs. Please keep in mind that you will end up digging in menus and researching things to find out how to do stuff. The voice assistant stuff works with alexa but requires some custom routines to make it easier. You could always post in the roborock subreddit and see what they recommend

Yes but its very quiet that I would ignore it if I weren't staring and listening to the vacuum. If it's louder than that then maybe you have something else going on

Not an issue so far, only had it for 2-3 weeks. There is a replacement brush designed to deal with hair that everyone loves but I don't see a need for it yet. Stock rubber brush is doing the job so far.

Just purchased the Mova P10 Pro ultra, its basically the same as the Dreame X40 but costs much less. I've only had it a few days, but so far it's been doing great!

What’s your budget? I’m very happy with my MOVA P10 pro ultra I got on sale. I think it’s still on sale on their site

Definitely check out the P10 pro and P10 pro ultra. Not sure if the sale is over there too but that would put both robots in that range. A whole lotta bang for your buck with either

The cheapest anti-tangling option is buying a dreame-made robot vacuum with the TriCut brush (easily found on AliExpress at a good price). This brush has consistently worked well in my household with a long-haired corgi that constantly sheds with long hair that is often longer than 12 inches. If you're considering one with an auto-empty dock and believe cat poop and vomit will never be an issue with your fingers crossed, I'd look at the Dreame L10S Plus (379 USD). However, suppose you'd really like to poop-proof your robot vacuum and want it to be able to avoid poop and vomit as much as possible to avoid any nasty cleanings. I'm afraid you'll have to increase your budget (not to 800 USD, don't worry!). In that case, I'd look at the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra (679 USD last time I checked), which is a rebranded and cheaper Dreame L40 Ultra with a larger battery. The ability to remove mops has been disabled, which is a non-issue since you have wood floors. As MOVA is a Dreame subbrand, the pretty poop-proof obstacle avoidance software that reviewers liked on the L40 Ultra and the X40 Ultra is shared with this MOVA model. It currently seems to be the best bang-for-buck combo model in the US. For the tricut brush, the tricut brush cover especially covers the non-brushing parts that are exposed to prevent hair and fur from tangling on the sides. In my use, it worked as advertised. In contrast, if you use a regular brush cover, it will expose the non-brushing main brush side cover, allowing hair and fur to tangle on the side. To get this, search for the Mijia M30S/M40/H40 brush cover. [https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1fzubob/brush\_covers\_for\_the\_tricut\_brush\_that\_prevent/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1fzubob/brush_covers_for_the_tricut_brush_that_prevent/) About the Matic that was shamelessly self-promoted, I wouldn't get it. It's currently priced at 1000 USD, and since it's a startup, there's a huge chance of it going belly under while the app hasn't been officially released on iOS. I really wouldn't spend that much when it doesn't even seem to be able to sustain itself, while Dreame is currently valued at USD 2.3 billion with Xiaomi's backing, which seems to be better for longevity. Having to replace dust/dirty water diaper bags once a week with a proprietary subscription where it cannot be easily bought on AliExpress and TaoBao is a big negative, especially if you have a lot of fur to deal with. Users have also noted that hair tangles on the sides of the 'anti-tangle' main brush.

Well you could definitely clean it but I think the liquid from the vomit is more likely to damage the vacuum fan motor so you’d have to catch it as soon as possible before the liquid goes through the filter. The mopping is much better on the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra as it can also extend and swing the extended mop to get closer to the edge and under furniture like your fridge. As it can clean the mops during the cleaning task, this will also help mitigate the issue of a mop saturated with dirt can scratch the floor which would be more likely happen with the L10s Plus. Since it’s currently at 600, it’s definitely a great deal right now. It also can lift the main and side brush when just mopping so the brushes don’t smear any liquid messes or absorb the water deposited by the mops which can buildup mud unlike the L10S Plus.

MOVA P10 Pro Ultra is the best US budget choice for primarily hard floors at 659 USD. MOVA is a dreame sub brand so they share the same things but MOVA does it at a cheaper price point the same way there would be a big designer brand (dreame) and the “cheaper” budget designer subbrand (MOVA). The P10 Pro Ultra is the Dreame L40 Ultra without the mop removal function but with a larger battery. Eufy S1 Pro is good as long as it’s mainly hard floors and not a lot of hair or fur being shed as it has no inbuilt antitangle function.

The MOVA P10 Pro Ultra is currently the best mid-level budget pick for a combo bot if you’d like a Dreame L40 Ultra without the really high price tag. Officially retailing for 1599 CAD with Amazon having a 750 CAD coupon bringing it down to 849 CAD. The TriCut brush has worked brilliantly with my long haired corgi and my home with long hair, so I’d recommend it for taking good care of Mr. Miyagi and Arya. MOVA is a subbrand of dreame and they share everything except for the price tag and logo. Dreame has one of the best obstacle avoidance algorithms and I believe MOVA models share the same obstacle avoidance algorithm.

What is your purchasing region? iRobot still seems to be the best at carpet cleaning but it greatly lags behind other brands in other aspects. There are many robot vacuums that can now easily deal with fur! This is essentially on most mid-range models (300-600USD in the US market). Dreame’s anti tangle TriCut brush works great with my long haired corgi and my household with long hair. This is also the cheapest anti-tangle option if you buy a compatible Dreame model (a lot of them are compatible with this brush). As for mopping, these are sadly rather expensive for mopping with the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra being the best bang for buck option in the NA market. What are you expecting your robot to mop up? 8 years woah… I think you may still be able to find these parts on Taobao or AliExpress for much cheaper if iRobot still sells them.

The MOVA P10 Pro Ultra will be the best for this as it is at 899 CAD and has the same performance as the Dreame L40 Ultra without mop removal. You can ask it to vacuum carpets first. The MOVA P50 Pro Ultra at 1149 CAD will be even better at carpet cleaning and keeping the mop pad cleaning tray cleaner and can remove mops. I referred to Amazon CA for prices~

They kept marketing themselves as Dreame’s MOVA until recently when it decided to create its own brand identity so I am surprised as to how such simple information wasn’t checked.

Please don’t believe his numbers. The L40, X40, and the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra have essentially the same mopping system but the test values are very different.

Dreame/MOVA models with an RGB camera and Narwal camera enabled models are best at obstacle avoidance. As for hair: dreame/MOVA models with the TriCut brush will do just fine with human hair and pet fur. For longer hair, I’d look at the dreame L/X40 and newer (MOVA P10 Pro Ultra and newer) as the new side brush design is more tangle resistant compared to the previous one. If your pet sheds a lot, I’d recommend the Dreame x50 ultra as it can compress fur in its dustbin as it vacuums. Narwal’s Freo Z Ultra is a good choice for hair and fur too. It has great obstacle avoidance and will have the best smart cleaning program. There is also the LDS-only Freo Z10 which will be able to mop closer to edges and untangle any tangled hair on its side brushes These models all are combo models that mop much better than a swiffer. Upcoming models that will mop better than the previous models: MOVA Z50 Ultra and the Narwal Flow.

Best cost efficient choice: dreame L40 Ultra and the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra are 599 USD on Amazon for their Easter sale. Both models are essentially the same save for the L40 having the ability to remove its mops.

The QRevo Pro is a good choice if it is in your budget with discounts! I see it retails at 659 USD, which was the price I found the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra at (a dreame l40 with no mop removal which doesn’t concern you). MOVA is a dreame subbrand.

The QRevo Pro is definitely not at the same level as the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra. Discounts for robot vacuums seem to be pretty common so you could wait for another holiday and it’ll be back at the same price or lower.

Roborock isn’t as good as other brands when it comes to poop avoidance. Dreame, Eufy S1 pro, and Narwal are much better at this. MOVA is a subbrand of dreame. Narwhal Freo Z ultra Narwal flow should be better for carpets though but the lack of any hair tangle measures on the mop is an issue considering how the MOVA Z50 Ultra which mops great and works great with long hair with similar poop avoidance performance has combs to help with hair tangles on the mop. Eufy also doesn’t have very good carpet cleaning and as good edge cleaning compared to the previous two An all rounder should be the dreame X50 Ultra for fur compression if there are heavy shedders or the dreame x40 ultra/ MOVA P10 Pro Ultra if the main issue is mainly just long hair.

This is definitely not exclusive on the ecovacs X9 pro omni. Ecovacs is late to this feature. Models that can do this well: Dreame’s L/X40 Ultra and newer (assuming there’s an RGB camera), Narwal Freo Z Ultra; Roborock Saros series and CurvX, MOVA P10 Pro Ultra, P50 Pro Ultra, Z50 Ultra, V50 Ultra

Liquidation sales are likely to happen soon after CES 2025. At 659 USD, I think the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra is currently the best-priced model. It is a slightly pared-down Dreame X40 Ultra, but the lack of some features, such as mop removal, is honestly not tangible. Roborock does not do well with obstacle avoidance :(

Just got Mova P10 pro ultra for $500 USD on Amazon. It’s my third and cheapest/most feature rich vacuum. I would recommend not spending entire budget on first one as the market is moving pretty quickly. Not sure what other valuable features they will really add though. The P10 pro ultra seems to have all the critical features. If your local Costco has an option that also a good route as they will back you up if it breaks.

The last few years have shown many upgrades and features being added to robot vacuum/mops. It's moving pretty fast still. That said, the **Mova 10 Pro Ultra** is pretty high up the list in features for only $499. I would recommend that one and then potentially upgrade in a few years if it warrants. It's pretty loaded with high end features though.

I concur with this sentiment. I purchased a low-cost off-brand model last week, and while it performed adequately, it continuously collided with obstacles and repeatedly became lodged in two specific locations. Consequently, I returned it and opted to invest a bit more in the Mova P10 Pro Ultra. The results have been nothing short of exceptional. This device boasts all the advanced features typically associated with higher-end brands priced at $1000 and above, and it excels in both vacuuming and mopping tasks.

I would look at the the dreame L40 or Mova P10 ultra if they are still on sale for 499. I would 100% stay away from Bobsweep and roomba. Bobsweep is overpriced garbage with no support and roomba is at least 3 years behind the curve (their new releases just now have lidar). The J7+ doesn’t even have lidar which is a crazy. Plus the is a good chance roomba isn’t a company in 3 years (CEO has said they could run out of cash this year since the Amazon deal fell through), And no mopping. For 500 on the mova p10 pro ultra you get so much more It’s hard to write it all out lol. Mopping, anti tangle brush, lidar, cameras for onstable detection and avoidance, extendable mop and side brush, lifting chassis, hot mop washing, intelegent dirt detections, wayyyyyy better app, and more. It will 100% be worth the extra money (for something like that) over the bobsweep and roomba. Basically you can spend $300 on something that will kinda work, or 500 or something that is way more set and forget.

So the p10 pro ultra and the dreame L40 are almost identical. Mova was a dreame sub brand (now its own brand) so when I say identical I mean really close lol. I believe the L40 does have the ability to leave the mop pads back at the station when vacuuming (or raise them for carpet/rugs) where the p10 pro ultra just raises them. The mova does have a 3 year warranty though which is a plus. As for the differences between the ultra and pro ultra: Extendable side brush An RGB camera for better obstacle detection A newer mop cleaning system (with rubber wipers to automatically clean the dock) The ability to lift the main and side brushes A newer version of CleanGenius: Offers the option to mop after vacuuming instead of all at once Floor stain detection is available Mop cleaning is done at 70 degrees Celsius instead of 60 Is a little taller (103.8 mm vs. 97 mm) Can climb over obstacles a little higher (22 mm vs. 20 mm) I found that in another thread but I believe it’s accurate. In short, I 100% think it’s worst the extra $100. Main reasons being the better self cleaning dock, lifting side and main brush (for wet spills) the RGB camera and the stain detection. All of those will lead to a much better experience overall. Are they 100% necessary? No, but they will add over $100 value (my opinion) that you will notice in day to day use.

Yes!! I got mine last week and I’m so happy with it.

I just picked up MOVA P10 Pro Ultra for about $600 with the discount on Amazon and very happy with it so far. Also added tricut brush and impressed no hair caught on the roller unlike the roomba I been using.

I’ve never had Roborock so can’t compare, this was my first combo and had no issues. Wifi connected right up, followed quickstart quide and was up and running. Using custom mode so it will vacuum first then mop, dirty water was pretty nasty from first mopping. I even vacuumed and mopped another floor, initially created new map and was switching manually but found the option for robot to automatically recognize. It’s now on schedule to mop twice a week and vacuum daily. Compared to my roomba j8+, it’s much much quieter. Initially I was looking to buy new Saros 10R because it had dual brush for anti tangle but couldn’t justify spending that much. P10 pro ultra with tricut has worked great with long hair from my daughter, wife, and 4 cats 😁. Note that I’m only using this primarily in my family room kitchen area about 350sq ft with stools with sled style legs, hasn’t gotten stuck either, I can’t comment on how well would work on larger area.

Mova P10 pro ultra since you would be getting a Flagship $1000+ Dreame L40 for $600. Mova is a sister company of Dreame and the Mova P10 pro ultra is basically a Dreame L40 minus the ability to leave the mop pads at the dock.

I would just get a dreame X40 or Mova P10 Pro ultra and then you won't have to tidy up at all since they have they best object avoidance while having great vacuum and mopping performance. Makes it easy to run the vacuum on a daily schedule when you can trust the robot to not eat cords and other objects. I run my X40s on a daily schedule, downstairs runs at midnight every night and has not needed any intervention in over 2 weeks and upstairs runs at 5pm and no intervention for close to 3 weeks.

Dreame x40, L40, Mova P10 pro ultra. Mova is a sister brand of dreame and the p10 pro ultra is basically a Dreame x40 with slightly smaller battery and missing the ability to leave the mop pads at the dock, but it usually comes in significantly cheaper than the X40 when on sale. The x40 is probably the best robot vacuum on the market as it has the least compromises out of all the robot vacuums right now. Roborock has atrocious object avoidance so their robots will tend to eat cords, dog toys, socks and other common household objects which forces you to have to prep your house for the robot to run. Eufy has good mopping with their S1 pro but poor vacuum performance. Dreame/Mova have exceptional object avoidance combined with excellent cleaning on carpets and hard floors. Also they can use the Tri-cut brush with significantly cuts down on hair entanglement. I have two x40s right now, pretty happy with it even with some of the issues I've had with it like a really sensitive Cliff Sensor and not being able to spin the side brush on carpet (being resolved right now with a firmware update). No one currently makes a perfect robot vacuum but Dreame/Mova are really close to getting there. The x50 which should be released this year and might be the first "perfect" robot vacuum.

What's your budget and region? For around $600 in the US, I would say the Mova P10 pro ultra is the best value right now. Think it retails for ~1100 but Amazon has a coupon you can clip on the Mova P10 pro ultra listing bringing the price down to $600. It's basically a $1000+ Dreame L40 being sold at a fraction of the price (Mova is a sister brand of Dreame). It has the same chassis as the L40 and same battery which is slightly smaller than the X40 battery. It is also missing the ability to leave the mop pads at the station but it has an identical dock so they may or may not add the feature to do that. I have two x40s right now and I'm pretty happy with them, cleans well, mops well, class leading object avoidance so I never have to prep my home for their daily cleaning sessions, lots of app features and smart home integration and great battery life. Since the Mova P10 pro ultra is 90% the same, but 50% the price, I think it's well worth it.

Skip Roborock if you want good obstacle avoidance. Their robots are mediocre at it compared to Dreame and the S1 pro. Get the Mova P10 pro ultra, it's basically a Dreame x40 with a smaller battery and missing the ability to leave the mop pads at the base station. It's obstacle avoidance is just as good and it's $679 on Amazon right now. I have two Dreame X40s, great vacuums, never get stuck on obstacles or eat cords/cat toys. Cleans my house well and does a good job getting embedded dust out of my carpets and debris off my hard floors. The Mova P10 pro ultra is basically going to be the same but at a much lower price (Mova is a sister/subbrand of Dreame) I had a QRevo slim and it was horrible at obstacle avoidance. Cleaned as well as the Dreame X40 but it would eat cords and socks and felt like the obstacle avoidance is useless. I bought the slim since it supposedly has the best obstacle avoidance of the Roborocks but it just isn't consistent or reliable to trust running it on a schedule. I want a robovac that I can run on a schedule without having to prep my home. The S1 pro is a good robot if you have hard floors only, but it's vacuum performance is bad compared to the Dreame and roborock. Most of the debris will be picked up by the spinning mop and end up in the mop filter and not the dust bin. It also lags bending on carpet performance versus Dreame and roborock and doesn't have an extending side brush.

The S8 MaxV ultra is last gen technology with its vibrating mop. I would choose the Dreame over the S8 max v as it has much better features, the app is just as good but the obstacle avoidance is leagues better. Is the Mova p10 pro ultra not available in your region? It's as good as the Dreame X40 while being significantly cheaper.

Yeah this doesn't really exist. Your best bet is to get a Mova P10 pro ultra or a Dreame x40. Mova is a sister company of Dreame and Dreame currently has the best object avoidance on carpet and hard floors. The Mova P10 pro ultra is equivalent to the Dreame L40 which has top notch object avoidance. You should be able to get a Mova P10 pro ultra for $600-800 on sale and an X40 for 800-1000 on sale.

Mova P10 pro ultra or Dreame X40/L40. Mova is Dreame's sister company and the P10 pro ultra is the Dreame L40 but being sold at a fraction of the price. All three are solid performers with the best object avoidance on the market along with equivalent cleaning performance to the top Roborocks.As of right now Dreame is far ahead of Roborock in object avoidance so generally with the flagship Dreame/Mova products you don't need to prep your house before you run the robot which makes it easier to trust the robot to run on a daily schedule with it getting stuck. If you can wait a few months, I would do that as Dreame and Roborock just announced a bunch of new models at CES. The new models look pretty impressive but reviewers haven't made full videos on them yet.

Dreame x40/L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. Dreame/Mova have the best object avoidance on the market currently along with having top notch cleaning performance. I run my X40s daily on a schedule and they never get stuck on cords or cat toys. The QRevo slim I also ordered to compare my X40 again would basically always eat a cord, sock or cat toy when running so I couldn't trust it to run on a schedule and returned it. Roborock in general has top notch cleaning performance but horrible object avoidance and I would not recommend roborock for that reason Eufy has pretty good object avoidance, especially in the S1 pro but the common issue with Eufy's products is that they underperform when it comes to vacuum performance. They fail to pick up debris on hard floors and carpets. And perform worse than Dreame/roborock.

I have personal experience with the Eufy x10, Wyze robot vacuum, Roborock QRevo Slim and Dreame X40. Out of all the robots I've used, the one I will recommend is the Dreame X40 and by extension the Mova P10 pro ultra which is basically an X40 with a slightly smaller battery and missing the ability to leave the mop.pads at the station.

Neither. 1) roborock has horrible obstacle avoidance, especially on carpet so they will eat cords, towels and socks so it's hard to run any of their vacuums on a schedule 2) the roborock s8 maxV ultra is a 2 year old design as this point and their sonic mopping system is outdated. It seems like they didn't want to cannibalize their QRevo line up and stacked on a silly side mop onto it. 3) the QRevo edge is good but if you are set on roborock, check out the QRevo slim as it has the best object avoidance out of all Roborocks but that isn't really a high bar to overcome as their robots have object avoidance that is comparable to a $400 robot. Personally since you have so much carpet, I would recommend the Dreame X40, L40 and the Mova P10 pro ultra (sub brand of Dreame). All have excellent hardfloor and carpet performance while also having class leading object avoidance. I currently have qrevo slim that I'm testing and a Dreame x40 ultra. The x40 just a far better cleaning system due to the object avoidance since I can run it daily.

The L40 and Mova p10 pro ultra are effectively identical. Same part numbers on the docks. Only difference being that the L40 can leave it's mop pads at the dock. The Dreame x50 is the best out of the ones you listed but it's probably out of your budget. The Roborock s8 pro ultra does not have a camera based obstacle avoidance system and is frankly old tech at this point, would not recommend it. The X40 ultra is possibly the best value out of the bunch it you can get it for $500-$700. Basically identical to the l40 and Mova P10 pro ultra but has longer battery life and slight difference obstacle avoidance sensors but still the l40 and X40 perform better than anything else for the money with regards to object avoidance. Since you have only hardfloors, I still think a roller mop style robot is probably best for you since spinning mop system tend to smear debris around while rollers like the Eufy s1 and E25/e28 always keep the mop clean. If you can get a Eufy e25 within your budget, I would get that, if not I would look at the Dreame l40 or Mova P10 pro ultra, which ever is cheaper.

Dreame X40/L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. The P10 usually goes on sale for $679 and it's like 90% the same as the x40 which goes on sale for around $800-900. The p10 has a slightly smaller battery and is missing the ability to leave the mop pads at the dock. The X40/L40 and P10 are probably the best overall robot vacuums on the market right now with the best object avoidance, equivalent carpet and hard floor performance to Roborock and equivalent app features. These robots also have extending side brushes which do a great job getting into corners and areas where the robot can't normally reach. The tricut brush which you can purchase and install does a excellent job preventing hair wrap but I have found it is significantly less effective on hard floors. The included roller brush does a good job on carpet and hard floors. The excellent obstacle avoidance enables you to schedule your robot to run daily without having to prep your house, it just avoids cords, socks and other common obstacles significantly better than Roborock's most expensive offerings. No one makes a perfect robot vacuum right now, all have some compromises, for example the x40 side brush currently cannot spin on carpet (they are fixing it in a software update) and it's Cliff sensors are very sensitive so Dreame vacuums have more trouble with dark/black carpets or mats. Roborock makes vacuums with excellent cleaning performance but atrocious obstacle avoidance so they rarely can finish a cleaning run unless you prep your house. Eufy brings a lot of features to the table for the money but seriously struggles with vacuum pickup performance. If you wait for the middle of this year, there will be alot of impressive offerings like the Dreame x50, and Roborock Saros series and maybe even Eufy will fix their issues with the x10 and bring out a new flagship killer that actually has good vacuum performance.

How much is the Mova p10 pro ultra in your area? Mova is Dreame's sister brand and the p10 pro ultra is identical to the Dreame L40 other than not being able to leave the mop pads at the dock. The L40 is as good as the X40 minus one obstacle avoidance sensor and slightly smaller battery but it performs equally as well but at a lower cost.

They are identical other than the Mova loses the ability to leave the mop pads at the dock. The spare parts and consumables are interchangeable between the two.

Get a Dreame or Mova for best obstacle avoidance. I've owned a Eufy x10, Dreame x40 and Roborock QRevo slim. Out of all of them I rate the Dreame x40 far ahead of the other two with the QRevo slim coming in 2nd and Eufy x10 last I currently have two x40s and their obstacle avoidance is nearly flawless. The robots rarely get stuck or eat cables which lets me run them both daily without having to prep my house or intervene. Roborock in general, really struggles with obstacle avoidance, especially on carpet. The QRevo slim I had for a few weeks before returning it would constantly eat cords and cat toys. Do not go with roborock if you value obstacle avoidance. For your case, I would recommend the Dreame L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. Mova is Dreame's sister company and the p10 pro ultra is identical to the Dreame L40 other than not being able to leave the mop pads at the base station. And both are very similar to the X40 other than having a slightly smaller battery and slightly different obstacle avoidance sensors while still being as good as obstacle avoidance. The advantage of the L40 and p10 pro ultra is that you are getting X40 level performance but usually around the $500-700 price point.

Dreame L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. The L40 should available on sale for around $400-500. The Mova P10 pro ultra is also around the same price and is identical to the L40 as it is made by Dreame's sister company. Get the L40 over the P10 pro ultra if they are the same price as the L40 gets software updates sooner. The L40 is one of the top performing robots for the money and has excellent hair tangle resistance since you can run the tricut brush. I have 2x Dreame x40s and they have the same brush system as the l40 and I have one running the tricut and one without it. Both have been excellent with resisting hair wrap with the tricut having zero hair tangled on it and the regular brush having a small amount on the ends. The best feature of the L40/X40/p10 pro ultra is that they have class leading object avoidance so you don't have to pick up your cat's toys or prep your house every time you want to run the robot meaning you can run it on a daily schedule which will keep your house cleaner. I run my X40s daily and they never get stuck on cables, cat toys and other random junk that ends up on the floor. If money is not a constraint and you have lots of carpet, try out the Saros 10r and Dreame X50. Both have some of the best carpet performance while also having good hair wrap resistance. The Saros 10r has slightly better cleaning performance than the x50 but the downside is that its obstacle avoidance is significantly worse than Dreame.

Hello, everyone. I've had the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra since the start of this month. I was just curious if anyone else is having a similar issue. Since the first day, I would say about 40 to 50 percent of the time the vacuum fails to function correctly. Basically, it will randomly stop in place with the side brush still spinning (I think the mop pads and vacuum motor stop though) for about 15 to 30 seconds and then the side brush stops spinning and the light on the power button turns off and all three buttons light-up. If I push the power button the vacuum will start cleaning, but it does not remember where it has previously cleaned and it does not create a log in the cleaning history. Additionally, if I remember correctly the app indicates that the vacuum is charging at its charging station after this happens. My best guess is that something is overheating as I have noticed that the issue seems to happen with greater frequency if I restart the vacuum after it fails to clean. For reference my house is approximately 900 square feet and I have noticed that it generally fails partway through the second room. I have reached out to MOVA support and I did receive a prompt response to check that the battery has enough power (not the issue), Fully charge the robot before using it again (didn't help), and lastly to check sleep mode by pressing and holding the power button. If I press and hold the power button the vacuum just turns off? I will send another update to them, but ultimately I think that I got a dud and I am going to return it. Other than the fact that the vacuum does not always function.... I do like it... lol. My only other vacuum is the Roborock S5 max. It has been relegated to the basement. It has been an excellent vacuum, but I just finished refinishing my hardwood floors and I wanted something that could mop. It does a great job cleaning; I can't comment on carpet though as I don't have any. I think that the ai obstacle avoidance is a little to sensitive. For example, I have floor protectors on all of my furniture and the vacuum sometimes identifies those as cords; this causes it to avoid the area around that 'obstacle'. This area then does not get cleaned; not really a big deal as it generally only identifies 3 of the 14 floor protectors. Additionally, because my floor has color variations the vacuum sometimes mistakenly identities spills and it will stop the side brush and I think that it also stops the vacuum suction (to avoid creating a mess with the non existent mud/liquid). I wish there was a way to adjust the ai obstacle avoidance, but for the price I think it is an excellent vacuum assuming my current issue gets fixed.

See I don’t have carpet and it’s doing a fantastic job with my hardwood so no complaints also it’s getting right in the corners with those mops and doing good edge work so I have zero complaints My sis has the one you said and I don’t like it as much but also I don’t have carpet. Nor does she tho The qrevo has lower standing in most every category (price comparative. I paid 1400 CAD$ for the p10 pro ultra which is way less than that one, depending on exactly which one but their suction sucked comparatively - not in a good way) on the spreadsheet that cross compares every feature on every robot but I’m really happy you like yours! Weird how the two you mentioned are the only two I have irl experience with. I think the difference must be the flooring type

Just understand there is no maintenance free vacuums or mops. You can delay touching it for a couple of weeks but it will probably need at least some minor maintenance before the major clean and resupply. I think your uncle using the app and helping out would be ideal. I have no clue who offers Chinese support but most of these are made in China so there may be Chinese forums that can help out or maybe you can talk directly to the company. You didn't mention if their floors are tile, laminate, wood, or carpet as that would dictate my recommendations. But I am currently impressed with Eufy S1 Pro for superior mopping. the Eufy X10 Pro Omni for superior carpet and avoidance, and the Movo P10 Pro Ultra for good all around performance. Keep in mind I don't think any robot vac can totally replace a good plug in vac on carpet. || || ||

Just understand there is no maintenance free vacuums or mops. You can delay touching it for a couple of weeks but it will probably need at least some minor maintenance before the major clean and resupply. I think your uncle using the app and helping out would be ideal. I have no clue who offers Chinese support but most of these are made in China so there may be Chinese forums that can help out or maybe you can talk directly to the company. You didn't mention if their floors are tile, laminate, wood, or carpet as that would dictate my recommendations. But I am currently impressed with Eufy S1 Pro for superior mopping. the Eufy X10 Pro Omni for superior carpet and avoidance, and the Movo P10 Pro Ultra for good all around performance. Keep in mind I don't think any robot vac can totally replace a good plug in vac on carpet.

I've had mine for about a week and loving it. I have a larger home so mapping took longer than most. I haven't had any issues with it not working or making random sounds such as rattling. I do have low pile carpet and does seem like even with the mop pads raising, they may still be dragging or rubbing on the carpet. I put together a thorough spreadsheet comparing models before I decided on this one. IMO, you really can't do better at this price point with features and suction power. Many reviews sites including vacuum wars would also agree. It's quiet when vacuuming, even if I have it set to high. I don't have pets, but between the wife and 2 daughters living here, no issues with hair tangling. I'll keep this and maybe get another one or return and try the L40, though the reviews aren't as high on that one and it has less suction power. The only reason I would consider the L40 would be for the detaching mop heads. One thing I've noticed is the lack of cleaning chemicals claimed as approved or compatible for Dream or Mova. I have LVP floors, and the manufacturer solution you can buy which comes with it doesn't say anything about being pH neutral for LVP floors. I've reached out to the manufacturer and haven't heard anything back yet. The Mova comes with a 3 year manufacture warranty and using an alternate cleaning solution would most likely void the warranty. It's been doing great with just water, but would be nice to have an official or widely used LVP cleaning solution.

I’ve had the Mova p10 pro ultra and it’s my first mopping vacuum but it’s legit. For the price I highly doubt you can do better for the money. They all have quirks but there is a very small amount of things that bug me about it.

I have a ranch with about 1000SF of freshly refinished hardwood floors (Bona traffic HD) and another 200SF of tile. I previously had a vacuum only roomba at my old house and loved it, but it was mostly carpeted. When I got the floors refinished I did a fair bit of research and went with the Mova P10 Pro Ultra, which has been doing a great job keeping things clean using Bona wood floor cleaner. Supposedly other floor cleaners can leave a haze after repeated use, and can cause problems with the internal plumbing for the robot mop systems. Bona wood floor cleaner however is tacitly approved by irobot and non-acidic, so I'm optimistic that it won't cause issues. The P10 has a tendency to lose the magnetically attached mop pads if I leave cords on the floor, and likes to get stuck trying to go behind the toilet in the master bath, but otherwise I've been very pleased with it's performance. I could exclude the toilet area...but I'd rather have it try to get back there and manually move it when it gets stuck. It mapped the house quickly and effectively. Gets under the bed (so nice to not have dust bunnies down there) and vanities, but not the living room TV console, the lidar dome is maybe half an inch too tall. I'm going to add some 1" risers to the console legs. Carpet suction is impressive compared to my old roomba, I do wish the P10 had dual opposing roller brushes like my old roomba, that seemed more effective in terms of agitation to pick up small dense debris. The P10 was $550 (USD) from amazon after coupons. My other finalists were Qrevo Pro ~$650USD , Qrevo Master ~$800 and Yeedi M12 pro plus ~$550.

I’d look into MOVA if available in your country. Some good deals if you check around. I like the P10 Pro Ultra. https://mova-tech.com/

I tried the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra which is similar to the Dreame L40. It was pretty mediocre on carpets as well unfortunately.

Beat the hell out of the MOVA P10 Pro for me on carpets. I returned the MOVA. Previously had a Roomba J7+.

The MOVA P10 Pro Ultra. It’s similar to the Dreame L40 Ultra. It’s extremely quiet compared to my old iRobot Roomba J7+. Sharks are in between the two.

MOVA P10 Pro Ultra is what I just got and I like it a lot and it has very good obstacle avoidance thanks to the camera on the front. The best obstacle avoidance robots use cameras on the front. I’ve yet to see a non-camera based obstacle avoidance system of which there are many be very good at avoiding cords.

Came from a Roomba j7+ and having mopping on this MOVA P10 Pro Ultra has been quite nice.

It is exceptional at hard floors its mopping and vacuuming capabilities are superb. However I tried both the rubber brush and tri-cut brush and its pickup on my low-pile rug and generic apartment bedroom carpet was very abysmal. I have no hair and my 11lb chihuahua has short hair and it can’t even pickup the hair on the carpet after I vacuumed hours before with my regular vacuum. The filter also clogs with fine dust way too easy and needs to be tapped out in the sink or outside honestly almost after every run. I have an air purifier and good AC filters. My understanding is China doesn’t have carpet really. Also that when they switched to spinning mops they raised the units. But the L40 and X40 which this is based on allegedly have a re-designed air duct to fix this. But it seems we need the X50 design and maybe minor improvements on it to get good carpet performance. Also paschal is a unit of pressure not of air flow. I have switched to a Shark and it does a better job than the Mova P10 Pro Ultra. I previously had a Roomba J7+ its vacuum performance was amazing and obstacle detection. But its noise level, navigation, and battery life was a nightmare.

My J7+ was acting horrible as well. I got a Shark Robot. After trying a Mova P10 Pro Ultra which was great on hard floors but absolutely unbelievable awful on short pile and medium pile rugs and carpets.

I had the Roomba J7+ for 2.5 years. It served well it was great with not really any hair collecting on the brushes. I just got the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra. Clipped an Amazon coupon on the app. But you could maybe get the MOVA P50 it will have a 3 yr warranty. I think the P50 has the tri-cut rubber brush essentially but the P10 has the standard rubber brush which is what I wanted coming from the Roomba. Look at the Dreame L40, X30, X40, and/or X50. Roborock has better support than Dreame/MOVA. But a lot of their vacuums don’t have cameras which are essential for obstacle avoidance. There are fewer Dreame/MOVA models without cameras. That’s why I kept the roomba so long the camera.

Single brush I think I guess that’s like the X40 too. I’m sad it doesn’t have the retractable LiDAR as well. But it’s got that 3 yr warranty. I just want the P10 Pro Ultra to get me through at least a year at $599 I’ll be glad.

I tried the tri-cut and the rubber brush carpet performance was very very bad. “Flattened pet hair” idk what that means but it couldn’t get dog hair that fell off my Chihuahua a few hours earlier and hadn’t been walked on. It probabaly can get female human hair and dog hair that’s similar to that. But its carpet performance was quite horrible. Hard floor cleaning and mopping was perfect though. But I returned it.

The Shark models with LiDAR and older Roombas are very good on carpet. lol. Which means good at deep cleaning to me. I tried the Mova P10 Pro Ultra which is basically a Dreame L40. The dreame X50 is good on carpets none of the other Dreame/MOVA are. The MOVA v50 coming out will be good on carpets it’s similar to an X50. I recently got a shark 2in1 with the side vent that puffs air at the wall. There’s is a newer slightly updated model that can drop the pads. I previously had a J7+ Roomba. Who knows if the new ones not made by them but branded iRobot Roomba still are any good. I don’t recommend the roombas though really. And who knows about the newer models.

I was going on 2.5 years with my J7+. It started having hardware and software issues. The battery life was terrible it couldn’t vacuum my newest 1 bedroom apartment without needing to recharge for 2.5 hrs with the most recent update. They would only replace my battery with a smaller one. I had to still use the smaller replacement battery into the new one. But they sent me a new robot and base under my warranty because the pictures they asked for showed my charging contacts on both were oxidized and worn (I did the maintenance on them like told to) other robots don’t have that white oxidation on the charging contacts. Some even place nickel plates you can buy on amazon and eBay over the iRobot Roomba charging contacts. I ended up just cancelling the iRobot select service. It was making phantom rooms I was done playing the delete and re-map until the map gets perfect, which did work for me in the past but I was over it. It was so LOUD too ugh compared to other bots on the market. I got a MOVA P10 Pro Ultra. It’s not quite as good at carpets. But it’s much better at hard floors with the mopping. And it doesn’t bump and slam into the baseboards constantly and everything else. App is way more advanced.

Shark but the one that has the extra mop attatchment and baseboard side port blower for $399 at Costco. I have it without auto empty $199 bestbuy on sale RV2620. Or the PowerDetect newer model. I tried a Mova P10 Pro Ultra similar to Dreame L40 AMAZING hard floor performance. But carpet performance was lagging terribly compared to my old Roomba J7+ so I returned and tried/got the shark.

First time robot vacuum owner. We really like MOVA P10 Pro Ultra. It has exceeded our expectations. My wife did not want to spend the money. She now loves it. We are 100% lvp.

Mova p10 pro ultra. It has exceeded every expectation I had. $500 on Amazon.

I really like our Mona P10 Pro Ultra. We are very pleased.

We like Mova P10 Pro Ultra. No issues🤞🤞🤞🤞 100% gluedown lvp or tile.

$500 on Amazon US now. #8 on Vacuum Wars and best value.

I love my Mova P10 Pro Ultra. My first vacuum and it has exceeded my expectations. 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

Had ours a week. It is our first robot cleaner. It had exceeded all our expectations. Hoping it continues . 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

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My new Mova P10 Pro Ultra is so much quieter than my old i7 and j7

I also think that Mova P10 Pro Ultra is worth a look. It's the Dreame X40 without the ability to drop it's mops. Unless you have long carpet that might get wet, running back and forth to pick up and drop the mop pads seems like a waste of time. The 10% off coupon from their website gets the price just under $600 in the US.

I just ordered the Mova P10 Pro Ultra. Glowing reviews. Great price $500.

I had a Deebot T30s that I returned. The mapping and object avoidance were not good enough. I don't have carpets so I loved the mopping. I did a deep dive into everything, I was almost ready to drop a grand, then a refurb, then back to the beginning. I picked up the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra from Amazon for $550. It's available on their own site for $600 with coupon. I have only used it for a day and it's awesome. We'll let me preface that. It started out TERRIBLE. It would not add the robot on either my Samsung s24 ultra or pixel 7pro it kept looping then crashing the app. One I added it on my wife's iPhone I was able to use it. I created a support ticket so hopefully that gets fixed in the future. Back to the robot. I unboxed it, set it up, filled the water and detergent, yes it comes with a detergent tank and..... It worked. It did it's job, I know that may sound condescending but it's great when things work as intended. I didn't have to rescue it find missing mop pads etc. It's only been a day but so far I couldn't be more pleased. I have it on the ai cleaning setting, it's remarkably quiet. Any questions I'll be happy to answer. Hopefully this will help someone make a decision. I was living on vacuumwars for a while but I started to get a feeling a lot of the reviews were Ai generated. Like I'm pretty sure these companies use the same software between brands. I saw the Yeedi and Deebot apps got different scores but from the screenshots they look identical. Plus there are no complete scores. I not a vacuum reviewer, I just spent so much time and mental energy I hope to save someone else that same effort.

I've had it a bit under a week. I had to attend to it twice, once the top got caught on a cable running across, it basically clotheslined itself. The mop pad came off. Then again a mop pad come off when it was cleaning under a shelf in the closet. I think the navigation has been terrific, the app works so much better than the Deebot I had. There are a lot of functions and features. It has a solution tank build in. I didn't realize they gave you some, I ended up putting the bona cleaner in it and so far so good. I read it could hook up to piping but I didn't see it on the system. It looks like there is a random plug port on the back that I'm not sure what it's for, but I doubt plumbing stuff. It's easy to switch. The top opens up and you just lift out and dump and refill. It has a camera, which I like but people say it's a Safety and Security issue. I I liked it because if there is an issue I can see exactly where the robot is. With my old one I had to look all over the house and it was especially troublesome if it lost a mop pad. The mapping and vacuuming have worked well. I don't have really any carpet, so I can't answer about that. I did turn it up to Max suction to pick up a bunch of pine needles on the floor from the Christmas tree. I would check on mova own site first as they are still on sale there.

I've only had it a few days but so far the app works great. Map was so much better setting up than Deebot. And it's works, So far I haven't had to rescue it from being stuck somewhere. That is a killer price. I think you'll be happy with it.

I got it and if the price is close I would easily get it over the L20. Right now it’s out of stock on US Amazon, but if I comes back in stock at a price anywhere near the L20 I would pick the Mova. Just make sure it’s the P10 PRO Ultra as it’s very different from the P10 Ultra. If the Mova came back in stock at the same price I bought mine, I would probably return my X40 and get another Mova.

Check out the Mova P10 Pro Ultra. I have one and it has proven to be pretty awesome for the price. I tested the: Qrevo master Qrevo Maxv Roomba j7+ Qrevo pro Ended up keeping the Mova p10 pro ultra

nope. In fact, the new Mova P50 Pro Ultra that is now listed on amazon ALSO will not spin the brush on carpet. I suspect that there are so many issues with the X40/L40 side brush extension they are either not going to launch that update on the Mova or it wont be for a long time.... I still recommend the p10 pro ultra if the use case is like mine (just small area rugs)

For Long haired people and pets, I’d get any Roborock with a duo-divide roller as they tend to handle that for much longer than conventional setups that most vacs use. I’d say the Soros 10R is your machine, but the mova’s are doing well. Very happy with our Qrevo master.

I started with a cheap $200 Roomba. It would run into everything to orient itself. Upgraded to a $400 lefant N3 and it was much better. Better obstacle avoidance, suction, battery, navigation, and wouldn't run in to stuff to orient itself. The mop was meh and it would tangle on short hair often so I upgraded again to $600 mova p10 pro ultra and wow it's amazing. Like a 9/10 in my books. Navigation could be slightly better, and mopping is good but could be even better but very satisfied overall. I can't live without robo vacs anymore and recommend everyone try a good one out. I'd say the best would be one of like dreame x50 ultra or robo rock 10R or narwal freo z ultra but those are like $1400

My p10 pro ultra keeps taking pics of half the cable that's on the ground and eating the other half of the cable 🙃 other than that I agree e obstacle avoidance has been awesome and if you really want you can just schedule vaccuming. Granted the base would be complete overkill without mopping but for the price it's good.

I think after all my research I’ll be going for the Mova P10 Pro ultra myself. On the Vacuum Wars video for it they did list it as the best budget robot vacuum/mop. It seems to do a lot of what I want it to but for a much better price than the roborock .

I bought a Roborock Saros 10R when they released and it was decent. I liked a lot of things about it, but it wasn’t great at mopping. Left streaks everywhere on my laminate. It ended up screwing up so I returned it. I ended up trying the MOVA P10 Pro after seeing all the glowing reviews on it and I’m telling you, IT’S AMAZING!! It honestly cleans better than the Saros did and it still fits under my couch for cleaning and stuff. Seriously, for $500, which it is on sale almost all the time, it is an absolute no brainer! I could buy one of these for every floor, have amazing cleaning and convenience and still save $600 over the Saros. Zero regrets here

I bought a P10 pro after retuning my Saros 10R and I’m telling you, the MOVA backs up the hype! The thing is amazing for the money

Ditched my horrible shark for a Mova P50 Pro Ultra and have been very happy. Roborock Qrevo Edge S5A was my second choice. Both do great with hair and have good suction/anti hair wrap measures. The p50 gets you the ability to automatically leave the mop pads at the dock and has a hair cutting blade in the roller. I know you aren't concerned with mop functions but most good vacs include it now. Mova also has the P10 pro ultra which ditches some features and is super solid. You can also look at Dreame, of which the Mova is a sub brand of. Look for sales. Most mid tier and above vacs will do everything you want, and unless you are nit picking while testing head to head, the average consumer wouldn't be able to tell a difference in performance. I'm not sure how much they are charging up in Canada vs. the USA but I got my P50 Pro Ultra for $799 USD I've seen the Roborock on sale for $899 USD The P10 Pro Ultra was on sale for $499 USD Having had both Shark and Roomba in the past i'd recommended staying away from them. Apps/mapping are garbage. They are buggy, and parts/service can be hard to get.

I got this one from vacuum wars reccomendation and I'm pretty happy so far!

I’m about a week in with mine and I’m loving it! For the price and features you get it was a no brainer for me

Mova p10 ultra pro. Its amazing for 499. Ive had mine for a month. 3 dogs and cat. It has extendable mop pads and brush. Cleans the pads automatically with hot water.

Mova p10 pro ultra. Wont be disappointed. Read the reviews and features

Good breakdown — you’re actually pretty close already. Quick version: * The **L40 Ultra** has full mop lifting *and* mop parking (it can drop the mops off at the base station while doing vacuum-only work, so it's not dragging wet pads around on carpet). That’s basically the main feature the **MOVA P10 Pro Ultra** leaves out to hit the lower price point. * Suction power, water heating, and station functions are otherwise very similar between both. The P10 Pro Ultra is kind of Dreame’s "budget premium" — similar hardware, fewer bells and whistles. * For parts: most of the consumables (bags, rollers, brushes, filters) are interchangeable across the L10s Ultra, L40 Ultra, and MOVA P10 series. Always double-check your specific model when buying bags but you're mostly good. * In simple terms: L40 = better for mixed flooring + carpet. MOVA P10 = great deal if you’re mostly hard floors and don’t need full mop parking. Hope that helps — happy to answer if you’re still debating which one to go for!

i researched and watched videos for a long time and then i couldn't take it anymore. we bought mova p10 pro ultra which is now 499 on amazon. its basically a dreame. same company. it's amazing! my flooors look so good with the mopping!

If you didn't already know, Mova is a sub-brand of Dreame. I have the P10 Pro Ultra and so far it's been great for me so at least based on that, Mova seems like a solid brand. Have had it for I think a round a month, maybe longer.

The Mova P10 Pro ultra is AMAZING. it was on sale last week at Amazon for $449. I have it. Best decision I’ve made. I’ve owned shark, ecocacs, eufy, roombas and Dreame. This has been the best by far.

I completely agree that the new robots are not perfect. They cannot replace a stick vacuum. My 7 year-old Dyson V8 still does a far better job in one quick pass than my Dreame L40 on criss-cross deep clean with tricut brush. My first Dreame L40 was a dud, but Dreame replaced it in one week after they saw my review on Amazon. Hopefully it keeps running! It does pick up about 85% of my corgi’s fur on medium pile carpet. The Mova P10 Pro Ultra I have seems about the same. The $900 Dreame L40 and $700 Mova P10 Pro Ultra are much better than my S7 MaxV Ultra, but still not a replacement for the old Dyson V8. And I think these “20,000+ pascal” suction numbers are just vaporware marketing. I don’t think these flagship bots (Dreame X50, Roborock Saros, etc) are worth $1200 - $1600. The step down models are the much better value.

Owned one. Does an ok job and great value but its loud. You can run it in the evening or if someone's on the phone / napping. Also runs out of battery faster than other robots.

Mova P10 is quite loud during the vacuuming. Great object recognition and pet recognition. Not the easiest bot to live with. Definitely cannot run it if anyone in house is sleeping (e.g. baby) Source: Bought, tried, and returned the Mova P10.

That was the final straw for me buying it. That and it being 1/3rd the price of the Dreame and RoboRock flagship models. And the accountant veto. Works great. Had it 3 days. Good job.

I don’t have those problems. I have a couple of small rugs that rarely get used. The rest of the 1200 sq ft wood floor. Haven’t noticed any filter clogging problem yet but perhaps that’s a carpet thing. The dirt on my floors is actual dirt from outside so it’s probably larger.

I bought the Mova p10 pro ultra. I then bought the plumbing kit for the Dreame which is a Neely identical product. Even the Mova software has options in the app for the kit. I haven’t unmoved the kit yet until I’ve got things settled in but I’m very confident it will work. Same fittings, same power connection spot, same form factor, same everything.

I chose this vacuum a couple of weeks ago after posting in here about how insanely dirty my floors get. Not because I thought it would handle the mud but because I got vetoed on spending $1700 on a flagship machine. When I found the P10 PU for about 1/3rd the cost I decided I could forgo whatever benefits the other might have. I’ve had it running two days now. Insane. Floors are clean. There were some areas that it hasn’t completely cleaned up but after I scrubbed those patches, there’s no west anything could have helped. But those areas are clean now and they won’t accumulate like before now that I have the P10 cleaning daily. I’ve ordered the plumbing-in kit (not well known, but Dreame make a plumbing in kit for it that integrates seamlessly inside the machine). I’ll report back when I’ve tried setting it up.

I’ll be hooking up my Mova P10 Pro Ultra to water in a few weeks using the kit designed for the identical Dreame.

I just got mine yesterday and it’s blowing me away. It mapped my picked up house in 4 minutes. The mopping ability on it is soooooooo good. I’m shocked at how dirty my floors are lol. I’m mad I didn’t get something like this sooner. $600 is a steal considering a manual high end tineco floor cleaner is like $300+. I’m gonna play with mine a lot over 30 days to see how it does but so far I’m very impressed.

I also have a MOVA, a cheaper one (P10 Pro Ultra). It doesn’t detach its mop pads but you can turn on the option to “vacuum carpet first”. With that on, it first goes to the two rugs we have, vacuums them (mop pads still dry), returns to the dock, washes the mop pads, and proceeds with normal vac&mop cleaning, now avoiding those two rugs.

I am in your shoes. I have tried two robots so far. I first used the Eufy c20 it didn't work out well and it did mop the carpet. I am currently using a Mova p10 pro ultra and it works great. It even lifts itself for the carpet and doesn't mop the carpet. Mapping ability is also better and suction around the corner of the house also works great.

Oh so you’re telling me. Someone who has owned 3 roborocks, s8 pro ultra, q revo master, and q revo. That the p10 ultra isn’t the best robot vacuum in its price range? Of course it is. Roborock is faster, yes. Here’s the problem: roborock is 2.5l water tanks, mova is 4.5. Mova has actual obstacle avoidance, mova is better cleaner, mova is cheaper, mova is premium while being cheaper. Your logic sounds like: roborock is dumb so it cleans better. It doesn’t.

And mova is quieter than any robot vacuum I’ve ever owned

Bro… you must be using a tricut brush from AliExpress. Or you’re trolling me. The p10 pro ultra barely has any wheel noise and is like it’s not there with the rubber brush. Also the q revo isn’t half the deal thisvis

yea ok man.

Mova p10 pro ultra made by dreame currently the best bang for your buck

Has voice commands and is equivalent if not better than the x40/l40 and won’t disappoint in obstacle avoidance like the roborock

Yep, it's a nice bot!

Have had it for around 4 months, does its job. great deal at the time for 500 bucks.

Dreame by far, have had 3 roborocks. They are all trying to release and flood the market. Dreame focuses on its products. I’d recommend the mova p10 pro ultra best deal right now and you get obstacle avoidance which lacks on roborock

It’s an x40 with slightly smaller battery and an extra feature, I replaced my q revo master in my garage, with the mova p10 pro ultra and couldn’t be happier. Some people like the mop disconnecting feature though

Did the same thing on eBay, bought a refurbished model and it arrived new, with all the bells and whistles. Couldn’t be happier. Idk why I was downvoted so hard, roborock is just crap that makes you want to buy the next and next. Dreame is great, and they opened a sister company called mova, I got the p10 pro ultra for my garage. Like 500$ these robots are currently the steal of the century

Mova p10 pro ultra has all the features you need

Mine is doing great 3 months in with a Great Pyrenees and a Doberman, but it wasn't under $500 lol. I don't think the ones at that price point will generally hold up to large dog dirt/hair for very long or do a great job. I got a Mova P10 which is like $650 on Amazon now. It's been a game changer for me honestly. Also helps with things like dusting since I let that run every afternoon so while you still have to deeper clean now and then, the dust and everyday dirt is SO much more manageable!

I think they discontinued it or something bc I no longer see it for sale in the US. But the Dreame L40 Ultra now sells for the same price with the added feature of dropping its mops while vacuuming. Being a p10 pro ultra owner, this is the best value for a mopping vac now imo. Recently saw it drop to $500, but it can be had for $600 now.

I’ve been really happy with the Mova P10. The obstacle avoidance is good enough that we just let it run daily without bothering to tidy up beforehand. We get pretty bad pollen where I live, and my partner has noticed fewer allergy symptoms since we started using it. I got it for around $475, and honestly, it’s felt like a solid upgrade.

Good! I think my Braava Jet m6 was a bit better in some ways but this just works and the auto-cleaning and drying of the mop pads works really well.

I'll note I was going to get the Mova P10 myself but after adding in the plumbing kit(since I cannot get the cheaper version in US from aliexpress) - they're nearly the same price(X40 Master & P10) and the master has plumbing built in, so smaller base station from the get go, leave mops behind, and shorter robot(can it retract the lidar?), and more battery life, at cost of midly less suction. Which in theory should help a bit to make up for carpet vacuuming.(swapping mops out)

Also worth mentioning that if you want auto plumbing(empty/refill) the dreame x40 master is a good one, or do the mova p10 and buy the kit for a bit less. I went with the master for the smaller dock and a couple of random enhancements that are ultimately pretty small.