Just get a Mova P10 Pro Ultra Gen 1. Thats probably the best obstacle avoidance you're gonna get under 500 dollars. Has everyhthing else you want too. (I dont know what carpet beetles are, but you can use a routine to make the robot vacuum empty the dustbin after each room to stop spreading if thats what you mean).
You should probably return it if you just baught it, roomba as a brand is so far behind the other brand like dreame and Roborock and movva, that’s litterly why roomba went bankrupt. For around thr same price if not cheaper you can get the movva p10 pro ultra which has way more features
I’m not tryna be mean, but you should definetly try a brand like Roborock or dreame at least once, they are wayyyy better, roomba is so behind in the robot vacuum industry, that’s the reason they went bankrupt and were bought buy some other Chinese robot vacuum brand. The MOVA p10 pro ultra is very well priced, and has so many good features that roomba just doesn’t have even on their more expensive vacuums.
Side brush extends, but no longer spins. The gears are perfectly fine, so most likely a dead motor. It was also making grinding sounds when changing directions, but that mostly stopped for now. Though it did make a bit of extra noise when rolling over a threshold. It’s also a little bit of rattle to it. Certainly not as quiet as when it was new.
Love my Mova P10 Pro Ultra (Gen 1), the obstacle avoidance is pretty damn good and hasn’t tripped up on anything.
Got mine during Black Friday for $300.
I have a 1st gen Mova P10 Ultra Pro and added the tricut brush, picks up hair from my other half and her cat just fine.
Does everything we need it to do for our floors and we got it last year for $300.
Yes - I love it and it just cleans on its own. All previous robots I have had get stuck or have constant issues. It’s really set and forget it (about refilling water and emptying dirty water).
I run it daily and doesn’t use very much of the solution - I think it took at least a month or so before the solution needed to be refilled. I bought a generic one on Amazon.
Well, I'm not paid by anyone, and I've spent a ridiculous amount of time and money trying to figure this out.
From my experience I'd avoid Narwal/Eufy like the plague. They advertise and promise a lot, but in my experience they heavily under delivered.
The Eufy S2's navigation was nearly unusable for me, their base station leaked, it skipped rooms, and would just end cleaning early. The mop extend feature was nice, but the software was holding it back. Also the dirty water tank's design makes it harder to clean than others.
The Narwal Flow for me was also a bit of a nightmare. Navigation was ok at best, but some nights would be absolutely dreadful. I believe it relies on AI detection and front cameras too much to navigate, as the lidar is tucked in and faces the rear. It also was trash at crossing thresholds. The app is also far and away behind its competitors, it lacks a lot of simple features that every other manufacturer includes. And to top it off, it started throwing wheel errors after only 6 months of ownership.
Now....onto the good ones that I've tried.
My favorite to this day (one of two I currently own) is the Mova Z60. It's roller mop does very well, and they have a fluffing roller so the mop does get flattened down. The dust bin is a bit small, but you can customize how often you want it to self empty. But if you're prioritizing mopping, I feel this is an excellent choice. My floors look spotless.
My runner up would be the Roborock Saros 10R. They're the only company I'd trust for non-spinning lidar navigation. It's flushed out, it runs smooth, and it has zero issues navigating. I've had it since the release and it does a great job overall. The app is also the best out of all robot vacuum manufacturers IMO. It's mopping is extremely solid, not as good as the Z60, but it's nothing to scoff at.
My value pick is going to be the Mova P10 Pro Gen 1. I got it for my mom as a Christmas gift and she loves it. It never gets stuck, mops about as well as the Saros 10R, and it's object avoidance is as good as my Z60 (I think they have same/similar front sensors). The hair anti tangling isn't as good, but you can buy a different brush roller to deal with that.
I should've started with this, but I have all hard floors with a few area rugs, seven pets, and I tend to track mud in as well. My top two picks (Z60/10R) have never had a hair get tangled.
Again, not paid to say anything. Just a dude that likes robot vacuums lol.
Slightly over budget but check out the Dreame l40 ultra or Mova p10 pro ultra. These are essentially the same (sister companies) and you will not come anywhere close to beating the performance for the price. You can get the [l40 ultra on eBay refurbished for $449](https://ebay.us/m/UROL86) right now, or the [mova p10 pro ultra](https://www.amazon.com/MOVA-P10-Pro-Ultra-360%C2%B0Obstacle/dp/B0DGR1VDTB/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=174216578632&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.NzCqKu3nlFFduePFwJznvA5wGHFgebsrMb8FS35FSbaAUmGXuS6Vg62wl60HDi0NsfL0sKU-daX-PmHZhmyCwF-V_KiTFkifQit2gbXYduq_B8rTniWPsOrLCWF6s1as32CqRkvY6O4Mt6RDFrb1dYWtDLseRLNlCsXjWt7Alc8ImSH_68Z_4NVqobo0YugC6y70fpv6CAUrDbqQL-fL_A.sEE2o97Dh-r320pNogxmJHwg9TEW_phCHW3zd6dHgs8&dib_tag=se&hvadid=729579260533&hvdev=m&hvexpln=68&hvlocphy=9061184&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=10306761465268670229--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=10306761465268670229&hvtargid=kwd-2382339236817&hydadcr=27756_14519795&keywords=mova+p10+pro+ultra&mcid=10a88f25aed8360a84279a2103f713f1&qid=1753128734&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRm&psc=1) is $499 new on Amazon. Only real difference between the 2 is the l40 ultra can drop its mop pads at the station.
I can personally speak to how well they work with pet hair. I have a chow chow mix that sheds an INSANE amount. Ever since owning one of these and running it nightly, my floors are furless. Highly recommend!
Also you don’t realize you need mopping til you actually get one that can. I went in not caring either but so glad I got one that does.
iRobot is leagues behind the competition so I would avoid.. Shark is fine but there are better options for the money. And dust bags are a positive. They are cleaner, healthier and easier to maintain. Costs less than <$20/year for bags (Amazon knockoffs are cheap) and if you really want, you can reuse any bags by just dumping out its contents.
With all that said, Mova p10 pro ultra is the one to get for <$500. And you’re in luck bc it is currently on sale for $499. You will not beat the performance and features at that price.
[Mova p10 pro ultra for $499](https://www.amazon.com/MOVA-P10-Pro-Ultra-360%C2%B0Obstacle/dp/B0DGR1VDTB/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1KKASS4OJWTV9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.NzCqKu3nlFFduePFwJznvFtPtFp2eniEunae8eOJjR0RFEBysN1Ug3QiIJ0FIFZF-th8VOeIiKhkLafn1TDfuZX_O_Mt6N_J18MVYYFzix6qccjwPZiubb6vcpyIZkDz9blFe60ugROld0lGzQklc5wTLaBTncrI3yIwztkLevhazPwDkykcQNT2mKsYf8YnniNAzbvTLF5CErVrX3e-7Q.yyc7leSsLlmD3mRQqVCTAx6qgbpmXMys_vqEo0bJoIs&dib_tag=se&keywords=mova+p10+pro+ultra&qid=1753330414&sprefix=mova%2Caps%2C232&sr=8-3). It uses bags.
Most robots require bags now. But if you are still against them then shark is one of the few that doesn’t use them.
Obstacle avoidance is pretty good. It will bump sometimes but more often than not it will recognize the object in front of it and stop before hitting it. It also will populate your map telling you what it thinks those objects are like this (the circular blue icons):
https://preview.redd.it/dglsvml1x0ff1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e60d2d6a16424a88ba90bcac14f335880b383f34
Mapping is good and only takes a few minutes and continues to learn the more it runs.
Is there a particular robot you had in mind? I personally think the best mid range option is the Mova p10 pro ultra when it’s under $500. And right now it’s [$469 at Walmart.](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mova-Robot-Vacuum-Mop-13-000Pa-Suction-140-F-Hot-Water-Auto-Mop-Washing-Drying-Dual-Spinning-Extenable-Mop-10-5mm-Lifting-Carpet-360-Obstacle-Avoidan/16322614507?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=102786031&gclsrc=aw.ds&&adid=2222222222816322614507_102786031_181623557182_22934406472&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=770864559835&wl4=pla-2417713174710&wl5=1014218&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=5584646462&wl11=online&wl12=16322614507_102786031&veh=sem&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22934406472&gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIoi3_Yo7lf3nY9jpEMmLKgAq&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3aLHBhDTARIsAIRij58Le4QBgEgxpDCbf2ji31rAlnSzx2h8Tn-1MsukUvbyaIGwC1FgjGUaAsLzEALw_wcB) Lowest I’ve ever seen it is $449 so it’s still a solid deal. But otherwise you’ll likely find the best deals on many other options around Black Friday.
Well said. I’ve tried a few of the pricier ones and just bought a Dreame l40 ultra as my “budget” option to compare. While I think the pricier ones are a bit better in performance (in some ways, not all) it just feels silly spending $800+ on a machine whose features will be dated in just a couple years. I mean just take the Dreame x40 ultra for example. Last year they sold new at $1900. Now you can get one for around $500.
And You cannot beat the value of the l40 ultra or Mova p10 pro ultra. I think it’s the perfect robot for most peoples needs.
FWIW I always thought it was gimmicky until I bought a good one. Now I wondered why I didn’t buy it a long time ago. Especially with modern features like self emptying dust bins and water.
Are you in the US? Idk if this is in your budget range but you should check out the mova p10 pro ultra or dreame l40 ultra. They are probably the best value out there for under $500.
Absolutely. I have a chow chow mix that sheds an insane amount. I kinda had just accepted the fact that there would always be tumbleweeds of dog fur everywhere and have lived with it for years. Always thought robot vacs were a gimmick until I tried one.they absolutely work. It picks up 99% of my dogs fur and I run it daily. I was kicking myself for not investing sooner.
Check out the mova p10 pro ultra or the dreame l40 ultra. These are the most recommended in that price range. Very hard to beat that value for the features and performance it comes with at that price.
Mova p10 pro should be <$500 on October prime day. I have the dreame version of it (l40 ultra) and have been using it for the past 3 months. It’s a solid performer but I wouldn’t say carpet suction is the best for pet fur (I have a dog that sheds an insane amount) but hard floor vacuuming picks up pretty much everything. Mopping is good if you have non textured flooring, but same can be said for most spin mops. I do think it is the best you’ll get in the price range when on sale <$500 and is often at the top of best rated robot vacuum lists.
Edit: [it’s $474 at Walmart rn.](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mova-P10-Pro-Ultra-Robot-Vacuum-Mop-Floor-Cleaning-Solution-13-000Pa-Suction-140-F-Hot-Water-Auto-Washing-Drying-Dual-Spinning-Extenable-Mop-360-Obst/17443573732?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=102786031&gclsrc=aw.ds&&adid=2222222222817443573732_102786031_185227333878_22924454124&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=770825223027&wl4=pla-2458810826114&wl5=9061184&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=5584646462&wl11=online&wl12=17443573732_102786031&veh=sem&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22924454124&gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIqOpzSopGcYzavSluimW2dak&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0Y3HBhCxARIsAN7931Uq2jQNpTfvPO1Wf2o2fqak7eJwJtPXi6dsRW2cOnJtxTBddrh4d0IaAnT6EALw_wcB)
[$474 at Walmart rn.](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mova-P10-Pro-Ultra-Robot-Vacuum-Mop-Floor-Cleaning-Solution-13-000Pa-Suction-140-F-Hot-Water-Auto-Washing-Drying-Dual-Spinning-Extenable-Mop-360-Obst/17443573732?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=102786031&gclsrc=aw.ds&&adid=2222222222817443573732_102786031_185227333878_22924454124&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=770825223027&wl4=pla-2458810826114&wl5=9061184&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=5584646462&wl11=online&wl12=17443573732_102786031&veh=sem&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22924454124&gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIqOpzSopGcYzavSluimW2dak&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0Y3HBhCxARIsAN7931Uq2jQNpTfvPO1Wf2o2fqak7eJwJtPXi6dsRW2cOnJtxTBddrh4d0IaAnT6EALw_wcB)
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