MOVA - P50 Pro Ultra

I am glad you are happy with yours. Your review was one of the reasons I bought the P50. Sadly, it hasn’t been as great for me. It looses WiFi, the app needs me to interrupt cleaning for any minor change to my map, and it doesn’t resume after charging. It has a lot of pros but these are enough of deal breakers for me.

Your last sentence made me wonder... if I "interrupt" cleaning, mine doesn't remember what it has already cleaned so it doesn't "resume" for me. Mine doesn't resume after itself going to charge. Mostly appearing offline despite wifi map showing strong... All sound like firmware issues. I will try a reset or something and might have it working too (fingers crossed). Thanks for writing back.

I typically hate JustADad's reviews because he never seems to know what he's doing and never keeps things a 1:1 comparison, but his review of the E28 shows it being terrible on carpets. Other reviews mention it's not great at vacuuming either. After my X10 with AI avoidance ran over poop, I wouldn't trust it on that front either. I went with the Mova P50 Ultra Pro and it'll be here today since I need something that vacuums better first, mops better second. My X10 was sufficient mopping for me, so I'm sure this will be even better in that regard.

I had my X10 for a little over a year and overall I was alright with it, but I did notice the issues you mentioned. The software, specifically, is trash and remained trash up until it died. From firmware breaking mopping usage to maps "magically" expanding zones on its own, while failing to go to a previously occupied spot after the obstacle was removed (ex. left a laundry basket on the floor when it mapped, moved the basket and it would "see" that it was no longer there, but never actually vacuum that space.) The room dividing was equally useless and it never let me actually divide what I needed to. The amount of times I had to re-create my whole schedule because I had to merge and try dividing a room is impossible to keep track of. The mopping was ok when the firmware didn't completely cripple the water output. I went to the Mova P50 Pro Ultra and it's a night and day difference. Vacuuming leaves my floors spotless (while running on standard suction bs constant turbo on the X10) and mopping actually applies an even coating of water while settings allow the robot to not only slow down but perform even tighter lines than the X10 did on deep. The app is fantastic, and it mapped my house almost perfectly the very first time and even called rooms by their proper names and added furniture. The room it did combine incorrectly, I was able to divide without issue, unlike the X10. Basically, at the time the X10 was good. Seeing how good the P50 is though, for about the same price, there's zero reason to go with the X10.

I also bought the same one a month ago, what is this problem with the wheel youre mentioning? I think i hear like a dragging sound or something mechanical now, and im not sure if i heard it before, other than that, the robot is outstanding!

I have a Saros 10 downstairs and a P50 upstairs. The Saros 10 is double the price and I can't see any difference after they clean. Both are very good.

It's not the best all around if the X50 is better... Also not the best value because the P10 Pro Ultra is still better

The only difference is that the Mova can't detach the mop pads automatically for carpet cleaning.

Worth noting that the p50 also uses hot water jets at the dock to clean the mop pads rather than nubs like the p10 (which gets dirty/smelly and need to be cleaned more frequently)

I honestly think this is true and most people should get the p10 pro ultra. The only reason I ended up with the p50 was because the p10 was out of stock.

I have an Eufy E25 and a Mova P50 Ultra, which is almost identical to the Dreame X40 Ultra. I got them through Amazon Vine and I've used them for several weeks Both have very good apps and a good vacuum and mop performance. The Eufy has a roller mop while the Dreamy has mop pads. Main issues: \- the Eufy is small and fast. It can go into tighter spaces. But it has issues climbing on high carpets (>2cm) \- the Eufy mop drying - which lasts for several hours - is quite noisy. I need to time the schedules so that the drying is finished before I get home \- the Mova/Dreame uses much more water than my other robots, mainly for the mop cleaning. I need to add water every week (70m2 floor cleaned twice a week). \- both have a dust bag in the station, which is inconvenient. I very much prefer a solid dust container (my Shark has one) So far, I prefer the Mova/Dreame.

I just purchased the P50 Pro Ultra and I love mine.  Obstacle avoidance is better than the roborock I had. It even recognized a grey cord laying across our grey floor and marked it.  That surprised me.  The dock works fine, no water errors, etc. no broken wheel. The only thing I have seen is for some reason the dock light stopped turning red for an error.  I take the water tank out, it runs dry, etc and I instantly get a notification on my phone but the light doesn't change from white. I don't know if it even matters if I still get the announcement but I contacted support just to let them know in case there was a glitch and they actually got back to me in about 6 hrs. They offered me a replacements and apologized.  I decided to keep it since everything works perfect except the dock light.  But so far very impressed. Just my 2 cents😁

It's weird it doesn't work. It did for a few hours then stopped but everything else works perfect. The manual says there is supposed to be one. It bothered me at first but since I am getting alerts from the app as long as everything works, besides the light,  then I'm good. I got one with a good wheel, no problem with the dock leaking, mopping is great.  Especially at this price point. If anything comes of the dock light I will follow up.

Yeah, mine never came on and there were a couple other quirks so I sent it back and got another and this one so far is perfect. The red light works, it detects grey cords on grey floors, and cleans up after our 3 dogs really well. I have owned Shark(briefly) and have owned roborocks for the last 4 years and thought I would always stay with roborock but this P50 Ultra jas really won me over.

Not sure what the Mova P50 is going for where you are but I'm very happy with ours

My p50 can auto remove pads like the L40

I landed on the Mova p50 and it seems excellent in this regard. I also prefer the app, although it's basically the same as Dreame but with a nicer skin

I tried the eufy e28 (way too loud) and the L40 and now I have the mova p50. L40 was ok. Didn't detect my rugs properly and was pretty good on object avoidance but the reason I returned it was because it was always leaving water on the bottom of the base station. Gross water that I'm sure would start smelling over time. The base station or the P50 drains and has always stayed clean. For pnject avoidance, in my experience, it's much better than the L40 and it detects ALL my rugs properly. From what I'm reading on vacuum wars, the ecovacs are good at cleaning but worse than the L40 at object avoidance. We aren't necessarily cleaning up the floors before the vacuum runs everyday and the cats sometimes knock something down like a string that dangles and I don't need my vacuum eating half of it and tearing the house down around it :) I'm so happy with the P50, I bought a second for our top floor I should also add that the L40 is newer than the X40 and I've heard that it's better in some respects. The P50 appears to be between the L40 and the X50.

The x40 is older. I'm not aware of any advantages. I do not find the p50 very loud at all. I have not owned the x40, however. I got mine on Amazon so if it wasn't good, I could return it

I had the P50 Pro Ultra. Returned it for the same reason. Carpet performance was gawd awful. Couldn't even pick up a piece of string or sock lint, even with 6 passes and highest suction. The mopping was really good for me.

Out of the two Dreame models you asked about, I'd go with the X50 if its superior vacuuming and fur cleaning you're looking for. It will have duo brushes to agitate and pick up better when vacuuming and better overall suction to pick up more debris on a single pass through. X40 isn't a bad machine at all, but for medium carpets with dog fur shedding, I'd go X50 and be happy with the purchase the first time around rather than wishing I had went with the other model. The Mova will be similar in terms of build to the X40 so I wouldn't go that route, plus they get you 3 years of warranty versus 5 yrs on the Dreame. Roborock will be the next best one when comparing it to the X50, they'll have similar sensors for objects and quality of life features such as voice control and self cleaning, the Roborock just costs a bit more but will be similar overall, so if it were me choosing between the 4 models, X50 is an easy choice. Hope this helps, Happy Hunting!

I went with the mova p50 pro ultra. Got it yesterday and did one vacuum and mopping run. Pretty happy with it! It has lidar and a light. It has a haircutting thingy. It's not overly loud, I use it also at night and it wasn't intrusive. You can also put the drying of the mops on silent.  Mopping was impressive, the dirty water was embarrassingly dirty lol

can confirm, my front wheel split and separated after 35 days. it breaks in nearly the same spot for everyone who gets a bad batch unit.

Idk why this response didnt go to the thread i was replying to,l for Mova p50 Pro Ultra. After running it for a little more than a month now, it's still running like a champ!

Again, idk why this response didnt go to the thread i was replying to,l for Mova p50 Pro UltraStills runs like a champ! Both vacuuming and mopping!

I love the Mova P50 Pro Ultra! The only problem I have is the small castor wheel in the front broke on its own within 2 weeks of daily use (sometimes used twice daily since i have multiple kids, 3 medium hair dogs that shed a lot, ceramic tile, with large persian style rugs, carpets). According to MOVA (and several Amazon comments) it is a common issue, so they had me ship it back to get the entire unit replaced, free of charge with a better wheel. MOVA customer support has been great this entire process! Giving it a 2nd chance soon as I get it!

Congrats! I'm waiting on mine to return this week after getting the wheel replaced. They told me only select units had "the bad wheel." I love the P50 Ultra Pro, which I also bought the extended warranty for as well lol!

Hello, I've spend way to much time on researching the market. I'm really looking forward to finally pick my first ever robot vacuum. I've decided that it will be either of these: * **760$** Dreame L40 Ultra * **830$** Mova P50 Pro Ultra * **910$** Ecovacs T80 (but I heard that their object avoidance is rather poor) * **930$** Dreame X40 Ultra Complete X40 Ultra Complete is on sale here (Poland). Which one would you choose, given these prices? Is it worth paying for accessories in the Complete version of the X40? Please help me free up my time, because I'm getting really sick of it :D UPDATE: I decided to go with Mova P50 Pro Ultra. Even though I can't compare it with the other robots, I'll come back to leave a review after a while.

Thanks for yet another vote for P50! I’ll go with that robot

Yes, I decided to give ~~Mova~~ P50 a try as it was over 100$ cheaper (including TriCut brush) than Dreame. So far it’s been really nice. Perhaps I had too big expectations after spending countless hours on reading, but at the beginning when it missed a spot or didn’t mop properly I was worried 😆 But quickly found out that if the floor is more dirty, you can just run 2 or 3 cycles of mopping instead of 1 (fun fact: on the second run it goes perpendicular to the first one). I didn’t have any robot vacuum before, so the best part for me is that I can actually feel that the house is cleaner and that I don’t have to be careful “because it’s been just mopped” etc. Edit: Sorry, I thought you commented on the main thread, but you replied to my comment about P10 vs P50. I've chosen P50 Pro Ultra, because I've seen quite a few reviews in which obstacle avoidance on P10 didn't look all that great. On top of that leaving mop pads seemed like a good feature and TriCut brush already installed was also a nice bonus.

Yes, I think the P50 Pro Ultra is currently the best bang for the buck option if it is available, especially for the AceClean dry dock where the X50 Ultra and the MOVA V50 Ultra are priced at USD 1309 (preorder) to USD 1699(retail) range. It cleans itself much better and cleans mops more thoroughly, too, which I think justifies it. It’s also much easier to clean; just remove the palm-sized drainage filter and rinse it, and if needed, wipe the drainage area with a Clorox wipe. For pet litter, I’m pretty sure Dreame MOVA’s “large suction for large particles” function (which needs to be turned on in the app) and the ability to put relevant pet items in the robot’s app, like its bed or litter box, where it’ll increase suction and reduce the mop moisture for pets with sensitive skin when pet care mode is turned on, means it’ll be better suited to cleaning litter.

MOVA P50 Pro Ultra is currently the best bang for buck in your budget.

It seems the wheel issue was localized to the NA market and was solved.

The MOVA P10 Pro Ultra will be the best for this as it is at 899 CAD and has the same performance as the Dreame L40 Ultra without mop removal. You can ask it to vacuum carpets first. The MOVA P50 Pro Ultra at 1149 CAD will be even better at carpet cleaning and keeping the mop pad cleaning tray cleaner and can remove mops. I referred to Amazon CA for prices~

It seems to be so. It’ll be worse on the S5X model. There is the MOVA P50 Pro Ultra for €749 and that could be worth checking out.

Definitely the P50 Pro Ultra

If in the US, the L40 Ultra is much cheaper at 399 USD (if ordering from the physical Dreame store) and the P50 Pro Ultra at 799 USD. The P50 Pro Ultra will have better base station self cleaning and better carpet cleaning. Here’s a comparative review of the two: https://youtu.be/LNJ6yK5c2Wc Both the dreame and MOVA will have better navigation and obstacle avoidance than the Ecovacs T50 Pro since the Ecovacs has no led fill light for avoiding things in the dark and the lidar’s field of vision is reduced from 360° for a lidar tower to about 120°. The MOVA P50 Pro Ultra will have the best base station self cleaning. Both the dreame and MOVA have a bigger onboard dustbin at 300ml over ecovacs’ 260ml which means less trips to the autoempty station, especially helpful for pet owners. The ecovacs is also unable to lift its side brush and main brush which means: if mopping up a wet spill it’ll smear liquid around and if just mopping in general the dirty brushes will eventually overlap with the mopping path and make mud in the brush compartment. A lot of other robots like the dreame and MOVA can lift the side brush and main brush which is recommended.

The MOVA P50 Pro Ultra will be miles better than the Roborock QRevo master at self-cleaning the mop washboard and at anti-tangling with its main TriCut and lifting side brush. It will also be better at preventing moisture from entering the vacuum compartment as it can lift its main and side brush, which will mean less maintenance and cleaning needed in the long run. I think you should run it on the CleanGenius or regular vacuum first and mop mode. If not, moisture from the mops will enter the vacuuming compartment and make mud that is annoying to clean. If running it on the regular vacuuming first before mopping mode, set the mop clean settings to the deepest cleaning setting and set it to clean its mops at the highest possible frequency (either by room or once every 10sqm). Since you mentioned having shedding pets, do set the auto-empty frequency to be as often as possible. The Roborock also lacks a good side brush and mop extension algorithm as good as Dreame's, but the spring on the extended mop is less stiff, making it more suitable for quarter-rounded floor moldings. Regardless of the model, you must tap out the filter once every few cleaning tasks, but after each cleaning task with the first few times with your robot. As far as I am aware, only the X50 Ultra has the filter self-cleaning capability, where air from the base station blows away any dust stuck in the filter. Il MOVA P50 Pro Ultra sarà decisamente migliore del Roborock QRevo master nell'autopulizia della lavasciuga e nell'anti-groviglio, grazie alla spazzola principale TriCut e a quella laterale che si solleva. Sarà anche migliore nell'impedire all'umidità di entrare nello scomparto dell'aspirapolvere, perché può sollevare la spazzola principale e quella laterale, il che significa meno manutenzione e pulizia a lungo termine. Ti consiglio di farlo funzionare prima in modalità CleanGenius o aspirapolvere normale, e poi in modalità lavaggio. Altrimenti, l'umidità dei moci entrerà nello scomparto dell'aspirapolvere e formerà del fango difficile da pulire. Se lo fai funzionare prima in modalità aspirapolvere normale e poi in modalità lavaggio, imposta le impostazioni di pulizia del mocio sul livello più profondo e imposta la pulizia dei moci alla massima frequenza possibile (per stanza o ogni 10 mq). Visto che hai detto che hai animali domestici che perdono pelo, imposta la frequenza di svuotamento automatico il più spesso possibile. Al Roborock manca anche un buon algoritmo per la spazzola laterale e l'estensione del mocio come quello di Dreame, ma la molla del mocio esteso è meno rigida, il che lo rende più adatto ai battiscopa arrotondati. Indipendentemente dal modello, è necessario battere il filtro ogni tot pulizie, ma dopo ogni pulizia le prime volte che si usa il robot. Per quanto ne so, solo l'X50 Ultra ha la capacità di autopulizia del filtro, in cui l'aria della stazione base soffia via la polvere incastrata nel filtro.

This is definitely not exclusive on the ecovacs X9 pro omni. Ecovacs is late to this feature. Models that can do this well: Dreame’s L/X40 Ultra and newer (assuming there’s an RGB camera), Narwal Freo Z Ultra; Roborock Saros series and CurvX, MOVA P10 Pro Ultra, P50 Pro Ultra, Z50 Ultra, V50 Ultra

For the floor with *just hard floors*, get the Eufy S1 Pro. For the floor with a decent amount of rugs, the MOVA P50 Pro Ultra (899) is essentially a souped up X40 Ultra!!!

Out of all the models, the MOVA P50 Pro Ultra will have the best mop washboard self cleaning which greatly cuts down on the frequency of cleaning it compared to the other models. For roborock models, I prefer the roborock qrevo’s removable mop tray which isn’t present on the models with vibrating mops.

The AceClean mop washboard on the p50 pro ultra is much better than the L40’s self cleaning mop washboard with wipers. If you’re okay with having the one with wipers I’d say it’s worth it.

If pet poop and wires aren’t an issue, the MOVA P50 Ultra at 1999 AUD will be the best value buy. It’s basically the MOVA P50 Pro Ultra without an RGB camera. The Dreame L40S Ultra is also at the same price and will be better for pet fur as it can compress the fur in the dust bin as it vacuums and comes with a detangling brush whereas the P50 needs a TriCut brush to be anti-tangling.

I have the P50 and recommend it.

Yes.

I disagree. These suction power ratings are always an indication of actual performance. They might not be perfect, since other factors exist, but they are an indication. Reviews are subjective (some don't even use the highest settings). Suction power isn't. If your 2000 Pa robot has much better floor pick-up than your 12000 Pa robot, something's wrong with your 12000 Pa robot. My 20000 Pa eufy Omni E25 has better hard floor pick-up performance than my 19000 Pa Mova Z50 and my 18000 Pa Mova P50 Pro Ultra and Ecovacs Deebot T80.

I would go with the P50 ultra. Some users have had issues with the front wheel but other than that, it has all the features of a flagship but at a much lower price, and a 3 year warranty.

I don’t know them all but here is a post by vacuum wars about it https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1kn8n4j/mova_p50_pro_ultra_sneak_peek_review_compared_to/ And here is a just a dad comparison: https://youtu.be/hLPB1MY0_yY?si=cDYYLLGjfIPu7_lm I think the P50 is better at mopping and has better cameras for obstacle avoidance and dirt detection as well as a better base station for washing mops. So it depends on what your needs are.

Agree with this 100%. Vacuum Wars lost any semblance of credibility they had for me since they rated it their No. 1 vacuum/mop. It got stuck three times on my first cleaning, whereas my MOVA P50 Pro Ultra didn’t get stuck once and accurately avoided obstacles. I returned the T50 the next day.

MOVA P50 Pro Ultra user here. I find it does a fine job cleaning our hardwood floors and rugs around our house. I have maybe 1200 sq ft of cleanable surface, and battery life seems to be sufficient. Everything really depends on what settings you use, and you kinda just have to play around with it and see what works best. My primary irk with this vacuum/mop is that the “sewage” tank doesn’t always seal properly when empty, so you might find that water just pools on the washboard and you have to go clean it all up. My solution is to just keep an inch of water in the bin, then it has enough weight and pressure to make enough contact for the pumping to work properly. I haven’t had the issue with the cracking wheel (yet), so I can’t weigh in on that.

I also have a one bedroom apartment and three free roaming rabbits. My floors are hardwood and the kitchen is tile. I habe ana area rug and the bunnies have their own large mat area. I have a Shark but just got the Mova P50 Pro Ultra because i wanted a robot that would mop also. I've run the vacuum mode so and am going to run the mop mode today after I do a by hand mopping to start off fresh and see how the robot upkeeps after. Right now it's on sale on Amazon so that was a plus!

I had both: The Ecovacs T50 Pro Omni and the Mova P50 Pro Ultra and tested them in detail. I also trusted the reviews for the T50, but I believe most of them are paid - there’s as you say not a single issue mentioned in them. Trust me, go for the P50. - Mapping on the T50 drew walls where there were none, and left out walls where they were. You cannot correct that in the app. Splitting the map into individual rooms was a lengthy and painful process, as the rooms kept coming out differently than you would draw them. And my simple room setup, where one room is offset a bit from the other one wasn’t possible at all, I had to give up. On the other hand, P50 got it 100% right on the first attempt. It even split rooms correctly and correctly put my couch, bed, and other furniture on the map. Beautiful! - Navigation is a lot better on the P50. It appears that T50‘s lidar that is embedded in the body, and not a tower on top, isn’t good enough yet. Not only does it stop and turn every couple of minutes, but in almost every run through my flat, it missed something. sometimes it didn’t go underneath my table, sometimes it missed a corner,…. this was actually the main point why I returned it eventually. You need to be able to trust your robot vac to clean everywhere. these were not impossible to reach places, and there was no feedback at all why it didn’t go there. P50 does an amazing job, I’ve only seen it two times avoid a small area, and then you get notified in the app: it shows you a picture of the obstacle it avoided there and you can set it to not avoid it next time - obstacle avoidance is generally much better on the p50. the t50 ate every rug with tassels / fringes I had consistently (which the p50 never did). t50 also kicked over a small couch table I had multiple times - to wash the mop pads, t50 rubs them against plastic parts in the base station. they then lose some fibers that I manually had to pull out of the plastic. p50 on the other hand aims a stream of water on the pads, so no fibers get stuck anywhere the only reasons I could see for the t50: - it’s about 2-3 cm less tall than the p50, so if you have low furniture, this might be valuable. p50 is tall, but it’s very brave and goes into spaces that are exactly as tall as itself, sometimes it even tries slowly to go into places that are a few millimeters smaller - p50 uses a bit of energy in standby (5W), while t50 uses almost none (1W). that’s only like 10 Euros per year in energy however if you’re in europe - base station of t50 is smaller. it’s quite bulky of the p50, but looks less geeky - the front wheel of the p50 breaks for many people, including for me. warranty will cover that, but you’ll have to send it in. apparently this was just a „bad batch“, according to their support, but i’m not sure if that’s true - p50 uses a bit more water - there is Matter support for T50, but not for P50. so you can easily control basic features via Apple Home. However, P50 also has some siri shortcuts and a reasonably good own voice assistant, so it’s fine all in all, I’m super happy with the p50 pro ultra. I’d go for it again 100 times.

I have the P50 Pro Ultra and can definitely recommend it. If you’re interested, I just compared it to the Ecovacs T50 Pro Omni here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/3mnR9i3mEW

As the poster above mentioned, most of them don't have cameras for object detection. I think bellow 600€ there is only a limited number available. Some ecovac Modells have a camera, I think the t30c “pro" is sometimes available for 599€ in sales and has a camera object detection. And I think only the Dreame l10s ultra heat has camera object detection (and the old l10s ultra). The new l10s ultra gen2 models have not. But then I often read that the camera doesn't always make a better detection. In terms of features I suggest the (dreame) mova p50 ultra, which had much more features as most other models and is available for 579€, the p50 pro ultra has ai camera, too, but is 729€ (which is unbeatable for its features). So mova is a dreame daughter and they often even work in the dreamer App, but they are always packing much more features than the more expensive dreame versions. But be aware: many manufacturers offer "ultra", "pro" or "pro ultra" versions (sometimes “pro ultra Omni) and often the "ultra" or "pro" versions only have laser object detection, with any manufacturer, so you normally need the "pro ultra" version to get ai camera obstacle avoidance. But still, often it doesn't make too much of a difference, nearly every robot still has problems detecting everything.

Spinning-pad mopping robots have an advantage over roller robots in one major area: they are typically better at edge and corner cleaning. Roller robots have started to get edge cleaning abilities only recently, and as far as I've seen, the implementations do not (yet) get as close as good spinning-pad robots, especially in corners. The advantages roller robots have don't matter to you, since you're most likely breaking out the wet-vac for anything like that anyway. So I think you'd be happier with the T50 or Mova P50.

I had the Roomba J7+ for 2.5 years. It served well it was great with not really any hair collecting on the brushes. I just got the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra. Clipped an Amazon coupon on the app. But you could maybe get the MOVA P50 it will have a 3 yr warranty. I think the P50 has the tri-cut rubber brush essentially but the P10 has the standard rubber brush which is what I wanted coming from the Roomba. Look at the Dreame L40, X30, X40, and/or X50. Roborock has better support than Dreame/MOVA. But a lot of their vacuums don’t have cameras which are essential for obstacle avoidance. There are fewer Dreame/MOVA models without cameras. That’s why I kept the roomba so long the camera.

I have it and its works very well.

Bought p50 pro ultra and happy with it

I'll echo that the wheel broke for me 15min into the mapping exercise. Super disappointing. Mova offered a refund (no repair or replacement) but it felt sketchy since they wanted to do it via paypal, considering that I purchased it on Amazon.

I contacted Mova first, since the robot seemed promising and I was interested in a repair/exchange. When I found out they wanted to refund me, then I opted to go to Amazon for that (for the same reasons you mention).

nope. In fact, the new Mova P50 Pro Ultra that is now listed on amazon ALSO will not spin the brush on carpet. I suspect that there are so many issues with the X40/L40 side brush extension they are either not going to launch that update on the Mova or it wont be for a long time.... I still recommend the p10 pro ultra if the use case is like mine (just small area rugs)

Hi, I purchased a mova p50 pro ultra (hyper, mega, etc.) about ten days ago. I opted for this model as I had a similar budget to yours, for the excellent reviews and because the rotating mops are a tested and efficient system (for my needs). My partner has very long hair, I was shocked by the fact that I didn't find even one in the brush, this is because the latter has a blade that cuts it so as to vacuum it more easily. If you want some info just ask

I have my Mova p50 pro ultra since around 2 months and I love it. Cleans great, has very good obstacle avoidance so I'm finally not afraid to run it when we're off. Very reliable vac and I'm super happy with this purchase.

Luckily my front wheel has been fine (knocks on wood). I use it daily for about 2 1/2 weeks now.

I have the tricut brush on my P50 pro ultra and know it fits dream models. Maybe check if available for yours. I have had no hair wrap and I have 2 dogs, 2 cats, and a fiancee with long, thick, Indian hair that usually kills any vacuum.

Was the difference in suction maybe a difference in settings? Given the designs are similar and the P50 has higher advertised suction I don't see how or why it performed worse. I know on my p50 I have it set to max suction mode. Either that or maybe its a defective unit? Either way I still love my P50 and for value its hard to beat the P10. The differences between 1st place and top 20 is most likely so minor to the average person that it wouldn't be noticeable until you compare models back to back in a controlled setting like this.

Skip the iRobot. It can't compare to the features and mapping of my Mova (subsect of Dreame). Roborock are a solid choice as well as people liking Eufy. Budget being the biggest factor. Make sure you go with either a roller style mop or scrubbing pads and skip robots with vibrating fixed pads.

Well the Q revo curve and X50 ultra are way more money than that, and unless you need threshold jumping or retracting lidar you prob don't need the X50 even though it's a great vac. Many like their S8s but it just has a vibrating mop pad where everything else has twin scrub pads. The X40 is supposed to be similar to my Mova P50 Ultra, and I'm super satisfied with it.

That's what I would do. I know people think Roborock is more reliable than Dreame, but a lot of satisfied Dreame owners makes me think it's blown out of proportion. My P50 comes with the optional cutting brush from Dreame and i'd definitely recommend it. I have had 0 hair wrap. I think they are like $40-$50 USD.

Robots like my Mova P50 Ultra have the option to automatically leave its mop pads at the station when vacuuming, and then goes and picks them back up when it's time to mop.

I have had old roombas and sharks with old tech. We are talking first gen Roomba and Sharks first robot that had an app old. Tech had come such a long way and I was overwhelmed with choices. This vac came up on sale and I was worried about trying a brand that's so new (I had never even heard of Dreame either), and the comparable roborock was $500 more. The front wheel "issue" scared me (although who knows the actual percentage of units affected), but with a solid extended warranty I bit the bullet. My GOD am I glad I did. I had no idea how much I had been missing! We have 2 dogs and a cat, and live more rural. That means dirty paws folks, and a lot of them. The mopping and vacuuming has been no short of amazeballs. Not amazing. Amazeballs. The app is intuitive except for not being able to rotate area rugs to fit the map better. It has made my life SO much easier. Object detection is pretty good, although it won't recognize cords on the ground all the time. Still it's far better than I'm used to so no complaints from me. The included floor cleaner smells nice, but it's very very mild so don't expect your floors to smell super fresh. You do see some swirl marks from the scrubbers so if that bugs you then getting a vac with a roller may be your only option. Vacuuming is pretty quiet and I don't even find myself turning up the TV volume when running it. On max suction on rugs the noise is noticeably louder, but it doesn't even affect my pets and less noisy than a plug in vac. The one thing that is loud is the auto empty, but it's less noisy than my old shark was. I have also had 0 hair wrap. Both my old Roomba and Shark id have to clean the rollers weekly. The mop cleaning function has a whirring/pump noise to it, and when it sucks up the water it's about as loud as the suction noise you get when emptying a bath tub. I haven't had to clean the station yet as it's done a good job keeping itself clean, and the mop pads haven't smelled at all after drying either. Still with no hiccups yet, and an unbroken wheel even though it bumps and jumps over hardwood room dividers, I am over the moon. It's such a great robot and worth it at MSRP. Way more worth it if you can catch it on sale.

I have the P50 ultra and love it. The X40 gets rave reviews but one thing the P50 has is the cutting brush. You would have to purchase it separately with the X40, but I think it's definitely worth it. 2 dogs, 2 cats, and a fiancee with long, thick hair. I have had 0 hair wrap and I run it every day to every other day.

Ditched my horrible shark for a Mova P50 Pro Ultra and have been very happy. Roborock Qrevo Edge S5A was my second choice. Both do great with hair and have good suction/anti hair wrap measures. The p50 gets you the ability to automatically leave the mop pads at the dock and has a hair cutting blade in the roller. I know you aren't concerned with mop functions but most good vacs include it now. Mova also has the P10 pro ultra which ditches some features and is super solid. You can also look at Dreame, of which the Mova is a sub brand of. Look for sales. Most mid tier and above vacs will do everything you want, and unless you are nit picking while testing head to head, the average consumer wouldn't be able to tell a difference in performance. I'm not sure how much they are charging up in Canada vs. the USA but I got my P50 Pro Ultra for $799 USD I've seen the Roborock on sale for $899 USD The P10 Pro Ultra was on sale for $499 USD Having had both Shark and Roomba in the past i'd recommended staying away from them. Apps/mapping are garbage. They are buggy, and parts/service can be hard to get.

You will want something that has a twin rotating scrub brushes or a roller mop as the vibrating mops are meh. I have the Mova P50 pro ultra and love it. It's a small step up from the Dreame X40 which is also a great machine. The Qrevo series has twin scrubbies as well. Eufy is one of the few brands that has a roller mop. So not only does it clean but has a dirty water tank to dispose of all that bird poop in. The others could possibly smeer it around. Object avoidance, even with the most expensive vacs are still lacking for some homes, but I have found my Mova to be adequate. I believe it's the same object avoidance that's in the X40 but I could be wrong and is on par with the X50. They still might chomp some USB cables from time to time, but won't be outright running full speed into things. Roborock is supposed to have the best app. I think Mova/Dreames app is pretty darn good. But I'm stepping up for a shark and Roomba. Both of which have the lousiest apps. Having pets, a mopping station that "auto" cleans itself is a big plus. I hope that helps narrow it down. I know it's a lot and had to force myself to just hit "add to cart" or I would still be stuck looking at too much information and confusing myself all over again.

Mova P50 Pro Ultra. A retractable turret and maybe a roller brush would be nice. But honestly there isn't anything that would really cause me to upgrade unless I buy another house that has large thresholds. I'm super happy with it.

I researched and researched and researched vacuums. I was able to get the P50 Pro Ultra for $799 on sale. I was torn between it or the Roborock Qrevo Edge, but it was like a $300-$400 savings, and the p10 was so highly regarded. Now watching how much the list fluctuates, and how well this thing cleans I think the difference between machines now a days are so minute that you prob wouldn't notice in day to day use. I'll be keeping mine and glad I saved the $100s. The only difference would be those that need threshold climbing functions.

I have a P50 Pro Ultra and love it. I'm sure the Dreame X50 is better, but I couldnt justify the price difference at the time. Even so I have no regret with my purchase and can't imagine how it gets much better than it is. 2 dogs, 2 cats, and a fiancee with tons of long hair. The house is damn near spotless.

I switched from a Roborock S8+ to a Mova P50 Pro Ultra about a week ago and couldn't be happier. It's much better at collecting pet hair without clogging the brushes, suction is excellent and the mopping leaves my wood and tile floors looking beautiful. I think you'll be very happy with your choice!

I've had the P50 for a bit over a week and am VERY happy with it. As others have said the cutting brush is wonderful for pets, the suction is excellent and the mopping makes my floors look great.

I just got mova p50 ultra and happy with the use so far. Works great with pet hairs and hardwood floor. The app is pretty simple to use.

Mine just arrived an hour ago and I’m waiting for my 4yo to wake up from her nap for the unboxing. I’ll try to remember to update.

Imo the Mova P50 Pro Ultra is the best all around robot. It sits between the Dreame X40 and X50 in terms of features, but for a significantly lower price. I've had mine for 3 weeks now and I've been very impressed with its mopping and navigation. Upgrading from an old Shark vacuum so its a huge jump in tech for me.

I did, but in Canada the Ecovacs T50 is $300 more expensive than the Mova P50.

It's better than the L40 and sits between the X40 and X50 in terms of features (suction, power and misc. features like dock self cleaning etc).

The P50 can detach is mop pads

I ended up with the p50 since it wasn’t as tall (and liked the idea of leaving the mop pads for my medium pile carpet). Otherwise probably would have bought the Dreame L40 Ultra.

Eufy!!!! I had a Mova p50 pro ultra this think was pure crap and the support was so bad ! I had 2 models all two were damaged.

Hey, the Mova P50 pro ultra arrived, installation and first impressions are great. The cleaning result is way more advanced than with my previous robot s7 max ultra. One disadvantage I can already see the robot is very carefully a little to much he is slow when obstacles are in the area and for example if a cable is laying in a corner he has a large safety space and is not cleaning up to the cable to avoid tangeling. On the other hand the Roborock would get stuck in the same situation so it’s somehow a win. Other than that the robot makes a great first impression.

Yes first impression are great nice robot so far a little too carefully with obstacles and cables but that’s not wild.

The p50 mova is a little technological marvel, to be seen over time but very good work and excellent after-sales service

I used 3 times per week for aspiration and 2 times per week for mop. Guaranty during 3 years so i think it good

I'm in the Netherlands too and decided on the Mova P50 Pro Ultra. €750 is lowest ever and it seems the best high-end bang for buck bot available atm. I went for pro ultra version cause I wanted the brush that deals well with long hair and I don't want clean the mop station that much. Make sure you don't have high thresholds (>22mm). If you order at Amazon you can try it out while being able to return it. They're chill about it. I skipped ecovacs because of all the bad stories here. The P10 Ultra isn't available in Europe it seems unless imported from America (way too expensive). The other bord were too expensive or basically the same bot but more expensive. Roomba just seems bad in general.

I hope the camera is worth it, hard to judge from a distance. The mop cleaning will require less maintenance for sure though as the system on the non-ultra leaves more residue in the base station. I went with the pro ultra.