P50 Pro Ultra

The problem with generative AI, even with the research function, is that the information is woefully outdated and often hallucinates things that don't exist. You want these features: >Good object avoidance (chairs, socks, cables, etc.) But the models the generative AI seems to have found for you will not do well in avoiding cables and socks. This is because they all only use structured light sensors, which are not well-suited for this. Only robots with an RGB camera, an LED fill light, and good obstacle avoidance software. If you tidy those up, then the MOVA P50 Ultra at 549 euros ( [https://de.mova.tech/products/mova-p50-ultra-robot-vacuum](https://de.mova.tech/products/mova-p50-ultra-robot-vacuum) ) is a good choice. Actual obstacle avoidance comes with a higher price tag in more expensive models like the Dreame L40 Ultra AE at 609 euros (German Dreame website). >**Goal**: **Maximum automation** – no daily involvement (vacuuming, mopping, cleaning the mop, drying, edge cleaning) Robot at this price range will need more attention than those with better self cleaning features, such as tapping the dust out of the filter out once every few cleaning runs (recommended to do once after every cleaning run when first using it) rinsing the dustbin and filter and wiping the robot clean once every two weeks or so, refilling and emptying the dirty water tanks, cleaning the mop washboard as needed. The Dreame L40 Ultra AE at 609 euros will have some sort of mop washboard self-cleaning, but it is rather annoying to clean with too many nooks and crannies for my liking, and the wipers like to drag hair around the washboard. If you tidy the cables and socks up, the MOVA P50 Ultra will have the best self-cleaning mop washboard since there are barely any nooks and crannies, and you can get the robot to clean its own washboard by pressing a button in the app. You'd still need to tap the dust out of the filter after every few cleaning runs, occasionally wipe the washboard down and the area under the filter, and rinse the palm-sized removable filter, which stops hair and large debris from entering. If you want the robot to clean its filter when auto-emptying, the Dreame L40s Pro Ultra is the cheapest model I've found that can do this. But it's at 769 ( [https://de.dreametech.com/products/dreame-l40s-pro-ultra-schwarz-saugroboter](https://de.dreametech.com/products/dreame-l40s-pro-ultra-schwarz-saugroboter) ) Maintenance tips: 1. Run the robot to vacuum first, then mop to mitigate difficult-to-clean mud buildup in the dustbin, filter, and brush compartment. It'll have less gross stuff in the brush compartment when you clean it. 2. The dirty water tank can stink, but the Dreame or Roborock dirty water deodorization module helps a lot in keeping the tank from smelling in between emptying. Do rinse and clean the dirty water tank with dish soap once every two weeks or so. Do rinse the deodorization modules and the dirty water tank when emptying the dirty water tank. Dreame one supposedly lasts longer, at 6 months, and the roborock lasts about 3 months. I also added a silver ion module to both clean and dirty water tanks to avoid any bacterial biofilm buildup. 3. If getting a model that can't clean its own filter, I put in cut-out pieces of air conditioner pre-filter sheets that fit just on the filter, which barely impede airflow for the vacuum. This will act as a robot prefilter and you won't need to tap the dust out of the filter as often and simply throw away the prefilter sheet and replace it with a new one.

Dreame and MOVA will be much better at avoiding cords than roborock. Both Dreame and roborock will definitely avoid pet puke. I’m not so sure about eufy but their cord avoidance should be alright. For pet fur, I’d prioritize the dreame X50 Ultra or the MOVA V50 Ultra (999 debut price if you sign up to their mailing list) since it has a rather large dustbin at 395mL and has a fur compression feature that works so the dustbin won’t get as easily clogged with fur and also have empty space at the sides (see the attached photo). This seems to be an issue with the dustbin on the dreame/MOVA models using the X40’s dustbin like the MOVA P50 Pro Ultra and the Roborock QRevo models. https://preview.redd.it/7c1epilq82af1.png?width=1346&format=png&auto=webp&s=d15280bdd75310e1d87e2557a9f350b20c85b02d As for fur tangling around the rollers, I wouldn’t worry about this issue for the dreame/eufy/roborock/MOVA models you’ve shown. Do note that any cuts in the rubber flaps on the antitangle brushes will mean the antitangle ability is deactivated and you’d have to change the brushes.

As for hair pickup on carpet, I think the Dreame dual brushes generally do better picking up hair on carpet than the Dreame/MOVA TriCut brush on the P50 Pro ultra. Dreame/Eufy/MOVA/Roborock’s antitangle brushes that don’t need to cut the fur should all do equally well picking up fur and hair on carpets and hard floors. I’d recommend a robot that removes its mops for carpet as I find that lifted mops on carpets generally drag on it, collecting fur and dirt while negatively affect cleaning performance. As for mopping, ecovacs’ X8 isn’t really worth looking at given the other models already available (not in the US yet) that mop much better than it. Eufy’s E25/E28 should do better as a roller mop robot. For the spinning mop robots, MOVA’s V50 Ultra and the roborock flagships should be pretty evenly matched. X50 ultra doesn’t put enough water even at the max level which isn’t great for dried on stains.

For dreame/mova models: V50 ultra complete > l40s pro ultra > p50 pro ultra > x40ultra

Generally for maintenance you’d need to tap the dust out of the dustbin filter once every few cleaning runs (you need to do it after every run for the first few times using the robot). Youd have to give it a good rinse once every week or every two weeks and let it dry for at least 24 hours You’d also have to wipe down any dust and/or mud once every two weeks or so. Once every month, you’d need to wash the dustbin and let it dry completely for at least 24 hours. To prevent annoying to clean mud, run the robot to vacuum first then mop. The dreame L/X50, the L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and the MOVA P50S Ultra and the MOVA V50 Ultra can clean their dustbin filter when autoemptying which helps remove the need to tap the dust out of the filter. For combo models with an all in one base station. You’d also have to refill and empty the dirty water tanks (best to rinse them every time you do so) as soon as they get empty or get full and give the dirty water tank a good scrub with dish soap once in a while. Odor can be an issue. I recommend adding a silver ion module to the clean water tank and dirty water tank and a deodorization module to the dirty water tank to reduce needed maintenance and any bacterial biofilm from forming. With these modules, please rinse the dirty water tank’s modules every time you empty it. Please don’t leave the dirty water tank alone for more than 2 days as mold and gross bacteria can grow in there.

Oh wow that’s a great price then. The x50 ultra is a pretty good choice. There’s also the MOVA V50 ultra which has a basically smaller base station and can dry the dustbin and dustbag which is good at helping prevent mildew and mold growing there if your region is rather humid.

Mainly the p50 has this in the NA market. Oh no what’s happening with your V50? maybe u/Your_MOVA_Guru can help

For a robot that mops, only the MOVA p50 pro ultra is going to be decent with spinning mops (well suited for relatively clean homes) that can wash themselves at their base station. The other robots are best suited for just vacuuming.

1. It really depends on your purchasing region. Costco is a popular choice given its generous return policy but choices are rather limited compared to buying from Amazon which has an easy return policy within 30 days. For other purchasing regions, buying from a reputable retailer with a good return policy and an optional protection plan would be good. In Australia, I heard Harvey Norman is nicer with returns compared to JB HIFI. 2. The robots with the best self cleaning will be Dreame’s L/X50 Ultra/L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and MOVA’s V50 Ultra P50S Ultra > MOVA’s P50 Ultra/ Pro Ultra > Roborock’s models that have spinning mops with the Multifunctional Dock 3.0 (roborock models with a vibrating mop have a washboard that is more difficult to clean as you can’t remove it) ≈ Narwal Freo models (completely detachable base) > Dreame’s models with the mop-driven wiper mop washboard (cleaning the wiper washboard is rather difficult since there’s too many nooks and crannies and you’d still have to get down to clean the areas the wipers can’t reach) > other combo robots with an all in one base station As for combo robots with roller mops and have an all in one base station, the washboard is generally flat with a few grooves so it’s pretty easy to clean. I believe most of their washboards are removable. However, it’ll require more cleaning in the mop compartment and dirty water tank. Most roller mop models have an annoying cylindrical component which drives the roller mop like an upright wet dry vacuum but you can’t remove or move it to give it a deeper clean even if gunk is stuck on it. The only combos that are close to the level of self cleaning for spinning mop models are Dreame’s Aqua 10 Pro track, the MOVA Z50 Ultra, and the Narwal Flow since both have self-cleaning mechanisms that are made to also clean the dirty water tank and the mop compartment while also having a very easy to clean mop compartment since the thing that moves the mops is also completely removable. If you want to support a US startup, you could look at the Matic since it’s a vacuum and mop robot but taking care of it looks rather easy since it lacks a base station. The maintenance involved is replacing the bag, refilling the water with a cleaning solution of choice, occasionally cleaning the roller mop, the roller mop filter, cleaning the brush roller and de clogging the mop tubes if needed.

1. It really depends on your purchasing region. Costco is a popular choice given its generous return policy but choices are rather limited compared to buying from Amazon which has an easy return policy within 30 days. For other purchasing regions, buying from a reputable retailer with a good return policy and an optional protection plan would be good. In Australia, I heard Harvey Norman is nicer with returns compared to JB HIFI. 2. The robots with the best self cleaning will be Dreame’s L/X50 Ultra/L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and MOVA’s V50 Ultra P50S Ultra > MOVA’s P50 Ultra/ Pro Ultra > Roborock’s models that have spinning mops with the Multifunctional Dock 3.0 (roborock models with a vibrating mop have a washboard that is more difficult to clean as you can’t remove it) ≈ Narwal Freo models (completely detachable base) > Dreame’s models with the mop-driven wiper mop washboard (cleaning the wiper washboard is rather difficult since there’s too many nooks and crannies and you’d still have to get down to clean the areas the wipers can’t reach) > other combo robots with an all in one base station As for combo robots with roller mops and have an all in one base station, the washboard is generally flat with a few grooves so it’s pretty easy to clean. I believe most of their washboards are removable. However, it’ll require more cleaning in the mop compartment and dirty water tank. Most roller mop models have an annoying cylindrical component which drives the roller mop like an upright wet dry vacuum but you can’t remove or move it to give it a deeper clean even if gunk is stuck on it. The only combos that are close to the level of self cleaning for spinning mop models are Dreame’s Aqua 10 Pro track, the MOVA Z50 Ultra, and the Narwal Flow since both have self-cleaning mechanisms that are made to also clean the dirty water tank and the mop compartment while also having a very easy to clean mop compartment since the thing that moves the mops is also completely removable. If you want to support a US startup, you could look at the Matic since it’s a vacuum and mop robot but taking care of it looks rather easy since it lacks a base station. The maintenance involved is replacing the bag, refilling the water with a cleaning solution of choice, occasionally cleaning the roller mop, the roller mop filter, cleaning the brush roller and de clogging the mop tubes if needed.

Vomit can be difficult for robots to properly avoid. I recommend dual brushes for fur as they'll generally lift fur out of carpets better. I'd also look at robots with anti-tangle brushes. The cheapest available option will be dreame and Xiaomi robots that can use the anti-tangle tricut brush. I wouldn't recommend Xiaomi for your case, as it only has structured light, so it cannot detect the obstacles you need it to avoid. I'm using the IT and ES websites for reference. Robots with good obstacle avoidance should be the camera-enabled models from these brands: Dreame/MOVA, Eufy, and Narwal. Narwal's Freo Z Ultra is the cheapest at 699 EUR. It also has the best obstacle avoidance and arguably the best smart cleaning mode. It is rather water-hungry when mopping and isn't the best vacuum, but it should be able to get rid of fur, so your mother may only worry about deeper cleans. This one's mop washboard is the easiest to clean as the entire base is completely removable. There's also the MOVA P50 Pro Ultra at 799 EUR, which is a better vacuum and is less water hungry. I did see those in North America report a broken front wheel, but I haven't seen anyone from Europe report this, so I think it'll be okay. I also like how MOVA has a 3-year warranty compared to Narwal's 2-year warranty. This one's mop washboard is not as easy to clean as you'd need to get down or lie on your side to clean under the drainage filter (the washboard itself is actually very good at keeping itself clean). There's also the Dreame X40 Ultra at 799 EUR. The P50 Pro Ultra is a souped-up version of the X40 Ultra. This one's mop washboard is rather annoying to clean with the wipers catching on fur and so many nooks and crannies.

Dreame should have physical stores that ship for free in the mainland US and often have deals running. the dreame l40s doesn’t have an RGB camera for obstacle avoidance. The MOVA p50 pro ultra is good and better than the l40s for obstacle avoidance but i don’t know if you could get the broken wheel issue this model has.

The dreame X50 ultra, L50 Ultra (not the L50 Pro ultra), MOVA V50 ultra, and the MOVA P50S Ultra (not the P50 Pro ultra) should definitely cross this with no issues. Most dreame/MOVA robots, even without special threshold crossing abilities, have pretty good threshold crossing abilities. You could also look at the Dreame L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra or the L50 Pro Ultra with the EasyLeap additional pair of wheels that are made to climb thresholds like this (they’re shaped like a windmill or shuriken to better grip onto ledges). The roborock models with the Adaptlift feature should be able to cross this just fine. Other robots can cross a threshold of 2cm with no issues but that assumes the thresholds are smooth with no grooves. No clue about them crossing this kind of threshold though.

As far as I know, only the Dreame Aqua 10 pro track, x50 ultra, l50 ultra (not the l50 pro ultra, confusing I know), the MOVA V50 Ultra and the P50S pro ultra can climb a single threshold up to 4.2cm unassisted with a second threshold up to 1.8cm.

It is mainly a result of confirmation bias, and most online posts are subject to the self-selecting bias. Many well-made robot vacuums can go much longer, and so even well-made combo vacuum and mop robots are still lasting well. Brands I'd go for: Dreame can have well built robots (I'd avoid the aqua 10 roller for now as there seems to be a design flaw) customer service depends heavily on region and there's mixed feedback regarding this; Eufy has generally solid customer service all around; MOVA seems to have pretty solid build quality, other than the p50 for the NA market (broken front wheel) and the z50 (docking issue due to a design flaw), solid customer service seems to be better than dreame's even though they're serviced by the same group as dreame owns MOVA; Narwal which hasbuild quality seems to be pretty good with some reporting it still worked flawlessly even though it fell off a flight of stairs because their cliff sensors are a bit weird, customer service reviews are mixed; Roborock which has build quality seems to be solid overall but obstacle avoidance is their only flaw, mixed reviews of customer service from very negative to very positive); and Xiaomi which has generally solid build quality and customer service for its price (I bought from them before and when something got stuck in the wheel where I couldn't reach it, they fixed it and shipped it back in a week).

MOVA’s P50s, V50, V60 Mobius, Z60 have fur compression

>I want **strong suction**, **good mopping**, **solid obstacle avoidance**, and **hands-free dock maintenance** MOVA's P50 Pro Ultra will have the best self-cleaning mop washboard. >Prefer something that’ll **last a few years** and not choke on socks or cords MOVA's P50 Pro Ultra and the Dreame L40 Ultra will have the best obstacle avoidance out of the robots you've listed. Ecovacs' obstacle avoidance is eh because of a not-so-good computer vision program, even though it has an RGB camera and structured light. Roborock's **QRevo Edge S5A** only has structured light, and robots with just structured light like to eat socks and cords (mine included). I do see that the tricut brush's performance gets worse on carpet when it comes to fur pickup. For edge mopping, it's actually Dreame's and MOVA's really aggressive edge cleaning algorithm that is the best at mopping closest to edges, right next to furniture, and under toe kicks. However, it doesn't have any springs, so it will ride up against quarter-round wall moldings. Roborock and Ecovacs shouldn't be placed against quarter-round wall moldings when the mop is extended. The corner cleaning is also the best because of the much better side brush extension algorithm from Dreame and MOVA. Roborock is more sheepish in deploying the side brush. User review of the P50 Pro Ultra: [https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1kf3l8c/mova\_p50\_pro\_ultra\_1\_month\_ish\_review/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1kf3l8c/mova_p50_pro_ultra_1_month_ish_review/)

If you value a much better self cleaning mop washboard, it could be worth the upgrade. Other than that, I’ll say they’re the same as I disregard official specs for suction.

It’s the best self cleaning mop washboard. Although I don’t like how you can’t really remove the washboard itself, it’s basically flat so there shouldn’t be many nooks and crannies cleaning it with a Clorox wipe.

The roborock only has structured light for obstacle avoidance so it can’t avoid small obstacles. The MOVA p50 pro ultra will be much better at obstacle avoidance since it has an RGB camera to help. If you’re in North America, get this model from Amazon in case it arrives with the broken front wheel so you can easily returnee it.

Out of all the models you are considering, the MOVA p50 pro ultra will have the best obstacle avoidance. Please note that none of the models are fully sealed HEPA vacuums so their main job is to take care of fur.

The e25 is good at mopping, better than the MOVA p50 pro ultra. Do note that users report that the base station sounds like a jet engine when autoemptying but it’s going to be good with long pet hair and mop well. Definitely run the robot as often as possible during the return period and return it if any flaws show up.

The best for obstacle avoidance will be the MOVA P50 pro ultra and the Narwal Freo Z10 ultra as these models are the only ones with an RGB camera which help it avoid obstacles like cables and cat toys. It will also help it recognize any scattered litter and it’ll slow down and be more meticulous when it notices it. The Narwal model is more water hungry so I’d recommend this as a mopping focused robot and given how big your home is I’d connect it to the water line if possible. The MOVA p50 pro ultra is the more water effective choice. I did hear issues about the p50 pro ultra’s front wheels breaking but I do not hear it as much anymore. I’d still recommend making your robots run multiple times a day so any flaws can be caught and you can return the robot within the return period that Amazon has. MOVA sent me their v50 ultra and their z60 ultra roller to review as part of their Reddit collaboration program.

Please check if your local tech store is an authorized dealer for dreame and MOVA. If so, you’ll have access to warranty. If this store is known for having easy return policies, I think it’ll be fine to buy from there. You can check MOVA’s authorized retailers here: https://it.mova.tech/pages/where-to-buy You can check Dreame’s authorized retailers here: https://it.dreametech.com/pages/where-to-buy The main difference between the TriCut brush and the antitangle roller brushes on l40s pro ultra and the roborock DuoDivide brushes is that the l40s pro ultra and the roborock Curv S5X will be quieter when vacuuming. All will do fine for hardfloor pickup but the l40s pro ultra’s duo antitangling brushes do better at picking up fur and hair embedded in carpet. For multi floor cleaning, you can also carry the base station up. They are pretty heavy at 10-13kg though.

Most robots should do well with chair legs and clean more closely to surfaces. The LDS only curv s5x will basically eat every cord and sock as LDS-only systems aren't great at identifying small objects, so please tidy your home up before it runs. Only the Ecovacs T80 Omni and the Mova P50 Pro Ultra have an RGB camera. The t80 omni requires ambient light because it lacks a flashlight, whereas the p50 pro ultra has one and performs better with smaller obstacles like cords and socks (ecovacs’ obstacle avoidance is pretty poor compared to other brands). MOVA/Dreame has the best corner and toekick cleaning algorithms for its extendable side brush and mop, but the extended mop can ride up against wall moldings when extended. If you have wall moldings, I’d recommend the Curv S5X to avoid this. I heard of P50 Pro Ultras having their front caster wheels break, but MOVA has stated that the production issue has been fixed. If you want this model, I’d buy it from a retailer with a generous return policy so you can return it if you get the older, defective batch.

Yes the MOVA V50 and the P50S has the same feature.

The dreame L40 ultra and the MOVA P50 ultra will have much better obstacle avoidance than the QRevo MaxV. The self cleaning of the mop washboard: MOVA p50 pro ultra > dreame l40 ultra (mop driven wipers but drag hair) > qrevo MaxV (just mop cleaning, no washboard self cleaning) Ease of cleaning the mop washboard: MOVA p50 pro ultra (can be done in app and you’d need to get down to wipe the mostly flat washboard with a Clorox wipe once in a while and the palm sized drainage filter is removable and easily washable) > qrevo MaxV (washboard is completely removable but some nooks and crannies) > dreame l40 ultra (the washboard is removable but the base where water collects is not so you’d have to get down for much longer and there’s far too many nooks and crannies for my liking) If you’re okay with parting with about 750 for the MaxV, maybe consider the eufy e25 for better mopping.

The MOVA z50 is a better mopper but also it was at 2000 AUD during EOFY sales so I’d wait for sales on this model. There’s also a widespread docking issue that some say can be fixed by adding adhesive tape to the base.

It is mainly a result of confirmation bias, and most online posts are subject to the self-selecting bias. Many well-made robot vacuums can go much longer, and so even well-made combo vacuum and mop robots are still lasting well. Brands I'd go for: Dreame can have well built robots (I'd avoid the aqua 10 roller for now as there seems to be a design flaw) customer service depends heavily on region and there's mixed feedback regarding this; Eufy has generally solid customer service all around; MOVA seems to have pretty solid build quality, other than the p50 for the NA market (broken front wheel) and the z50 (docking issue due to a design flaw), solid customer service seems to be better than dreame's even though they're serviced by the same group as dreame owns MOVA; Narwal which hasbuild quality seems to be pretty good with some reporting it still worked flawlessly even though it fell off a flight of stairs because their cliff sensors are a bit weird, customer service reviews are mixed; Roborock which has build quality seems to be solid overall but obstacle avoidance is their only flaw, mixed reviews of customer service from very negative to very positive); and Xiaomi which has generally solid build quality and customer service for its price (I bought from them before and when something got stuck in the wheel where I couldn't reach it, they fixed it and shipped it back in a week).

1. Anything that moves can break. So I suggest buying from a retailer with a good return policy + a good protection plan. 2. For base station cleaning: Dreame (some models), eufy, Narwal, roborock, and Xiaomi have completely removable mop washboards. I’m not a fan of the wiper driven mop washboards on the Dreame X/L30 and X/L40 ultra and the MOVA P10 Ultra/Pro Ultra simply because there’s too many nook and crannies to clean. However their new aceclean dryboard on the L/V/X50 Ultra and newer is much easier to clean even when only the filter is removable since there’s no nooks and crannies for dirt to hide in and dirt only really collects under the removable filter which is easily removed with a wet wipe or a Clorox wipe. I’d avoid bagless base stations. Spinning mop combo robots are less maintenance than roller mop robots.

1. It really depends on your purchasing region. Costco is a popular choice given its generous return policy but choices are rather limited compared to buying from Amazon which has an easy return policy within 30 days. For other purchasing regions, buying from a reputable retailer with a good return policy and an optional protection plan would be good. In Australia, I heard Harvey Norman is nicer with returns compared to JB HIFI. 2. The robots with the best self cleaning will be Dreame’s L/X50 Ultra/L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and MOVA’s V50 Ultra P50S Ultra > MOVA’s P50 Ultra/ Pro Ultra > Roborock’s models that have spinning mops with the Multifunctional Dock 3.0 (roborock models with a vibrating mop have a washboard that is more difficult to clean as you can’t remove it) ≈ Narwal Freo models (completely detachable base) > Dreame’s models with the mop-driven wiper mop washboard (cleaning the wiper washboard is rather difficult since there’s too many nooks and crannies and you’d still have to get down to clean the areas the wipers can’t reach) > other combo robots with an all in one base station As for combo robots with roller mops and have an all in one base station, the washboard is generally flat with a few grooves so it’s pretty easy to clean. I believe most of their washboards are removable. However, it’ll require more cleaning in the mop compartment and dirty water tank. Most roller mop models have an annoying cylindrical component which drives the roller mop like an upright wet dry vacuum but you can’t remove or move it to give it a deeper clean even if gunk is stuck on it. The only combos that are close to the level of self cleaning for spinning mop models are Dreame’s Aqua 10 Pro track, the MOVA Z50 Ultra, and the Narwal Flow since both have self-cleaning mechanisms that are made to also clean the dirty water tank and the mop compartment while also having a very easy to clean mop compartment since the thing that moves the mops is also completely removable. If you want to support a US startup, you could look at the Matic since it’s a vacuum and mop robot but taking care of it looks rather easy since it lacks a base station. The maintenance involved is replacing the bag, refilling the water with a cleaning solution of choice, occasionally cleaning the roller mop, the roller mop filter, cleaning the brush roller and de clogging the mop tubes if needed.

I had an iRoomba from Costco, had major issues after about 60 days. Returned it, thanks Costco.. and bought a Mova P50 off of Amazon, after spending a ridiculous amount of time reading reviews The difference is night and day. Mapping feature is very smart, the vacuum power is significantly more powerful, doesnt get stuck and mops. It was also only $500. Check it out. [Mova P50](https://a.co/d/01B2lQXx)

I bought a mova p50 pro ultra. I like it alot. Its a $799 robot mop vacuum and was able to buy it on Amazon Prime 2 day sale $599. So far very satisfied

Same i got mine for $450. Its great!

Well, Actually, I think his "love" of the P10 Pro Ultra is based on the amazing deal, and the features you get at that price point. It's always human nature to "root" for the little guy. I have a P10 Pro Ultra, and I really do love it - and it's one of the best robots for the money. Even in regards to it's somewhat "weaker" rating for mopping dried up food stains? Well, it sure works wonders on my kitchen floor, and dried coffee and food stains are cleaned up fab, and done so with one pass (I was using 2x mopping passes based on many reviews saying that the p10 Pro Ultra is somewhat "weak" on mopping). So, I not really faulting J-dad for his real love of the p10 pro - it really was a price break-through for what you get. Currently, his home unit he's using is a the P50, and he also (rightfully) raved about that product. Not really sure if that syrup example changes much of the valuable information he's shared......