MOVA - V50 Ultra

i will pick mova V50Ultra

sure due to its powerful suction ,and I did try before , I will check if I can take some videos for you

lol I will train it next time after it clean up the spilled protein powder

oh it depands on the height of the thresholds . I guess 2-4cm is piece of cake to it

Mova V50 is overall best you can do nowdays. It has very few drawbacks compared to others.

A little late for this but I would go with the V50. Any model can have problems. I haven't tried the curvx but I tried 3 regular curvs and had to send them back. They dragged the mops when going back to the base.  I haven't seen a lot of people mention that so maybe I was unlucky, 3 times in a row.  The vacuum performance wasn't great either. I always vacuum before mop and there would be lots of pet hair in the base after mopping.  I have the p50 and love it. Got it on sale for 799. I did have to send the first one back due to water pump issues, started in less than a week,  but the one I have now has been going 2 months with no problem. Hardly, if any hair in the base after mopping. And my dust bag was full the first month. We have 3 highly shedding dogs and the roborock qrevo master does well but evidently the p50 does better. The roborock bag wouldn't be full the first month like this.  And I have generic bags that work that are a lot less so it won't get so expensive  to change. I have had no front wheel problem at all. Every manufacture can have problems. But if you need to deal with the warranty every time I have emailed Mova with a question or when the water pump went bad, they got back to me the same day almost every time but always within 24hrs. And not during the middle of the night like Roborock then you have to wait until the next night to email you back. Roborock was never a problem with me for warranty work it's just the process takes a while due to the response email coming in the middle of the night. Sorry so long but hope this helps.

V50 Ultra Is really a good robot with Proleap System and AceClean dryboard but...I would still take the Z50 Ultra just for the way better mopping even though it doesn't have the Proleap System

I purchased a Mova V50 and a Eufy e25 to compare. In my experience the v50 was easier to clean/maintain and much better edge mopping. I noticed the e25 didn’t dry its mop aswell either, leaving behind a stench.

It you have rugs/carpets with pets that shed than the mova. If not than the curvx.

Price was the deciding factor for me. On prime day the mova was 949 and the saros was 1279. Factor in that I would need a 3 year warranty with the saros which would add another 129 dollars and then the 150 worth of free stuff mova sends you, it just didnt make sense to get the saros

Yep. Snagged it for 949

My black Mova V50 is mostly matte. It's my #2 behind the Roomba j7/j9, those were really good looking robots.

Awesome review! I'll add my quick two cents as well since I have also had both the E28 and now the V50 for about a week * I totally agree about your roller vs spinning mop assessment. I actually have found the V50 to mop significantly better in my house than the E28. My kitchen often has flour caked on the floor (messy partner). The E28 would leave big splotches of it every time, even when I had it mop the room twice. The V50 got it all in one go the first time. I also absolutely hate cleaning the E28's dirty water tank and roller, which you absolutely have to do weekly if you mop regularly because it gets very nasty. I really think now that roller mops are a gimmick that provides no advantage in normal household use * I found the E28's overall navigation to be better in some awkward rooms with a lot of furniture, but the V50 I found gets closer to edges much better * Object avoidance seems much better on the V50 so far. It has detected a lot more things than the E28 ever did in my house. One example, I have a rubber mat with small raised edges that I set cat food and water on. The E28 would want to steamroll over it every time and would get caught and spill the water dish, I had to add a no go zone. The V50 avoided it without issue first try. * I'm struggling to get the V50 to go under my bed, which it absolutely can fit if it lowers the lidar and is well within the advertised height. My testing on this so far has actually been concerning, it literally smacks its lidar on the bottom of the bedframe and won't go under, and I'm a bit worried it might damage itself. I know it can lower the lidar since it does it under my dressers, so still tinkering with settings to figure the bed issue out * I think Mova and Dreame has an issue with its wheels on models that can raise themselves. I was super impressed during its first run just how quiet it was, but after it lifted itself over a threshold the first time it now sounds like it's rattling on hardwood floors. I've heard similar stories from Mova and Dreame owners so I'm wondering if this is just to be expected. I'm going to open a support ticket for this

I wasn't talking about when the wheels were being extended, I just mentioned I only noticed it after it used the raise feature the first time. It sounds like there's a wheel off balance, or out of sync, or something. Going to troubleshoot some more to see if something's caught in a wheel somewhere.

I got it working after adding a manual low lying space in the app, works great now.

Great review! I'll add some of my thoughts too since I've also been using the E28 for a bit now. \- Completely agree about obstacle avoidance, I've found it to be the best in the business (I've owned Roombas, Roborocks, Movas, and this E28) Navigation is also excellent, efficiency is not quite as good as my Roborock QRevo but much better than my Mova V50 \- Vacuuming performance is excellent on hard floors and low pile carpet and rugs. The rollers work fantastic with hair. I definitely rate it a top tier vacuum among the robots I've had, though note I don't have any high pile carpet. \- Mopping performance is just "fine" to me, having owned multiple spinning style mops (a Roborock QRevo and Mova V50), I found those to be better at dried on stains. It's still a great mop though, and frankly this is just anecdotal. \- I feel like it does not get close enough to walls and furniture feet. \- It doesn't handle thresholds very well. I have a small threshold that's just big enough to typically give other robots problems too. The difference is the others usually figures it out by hitting it at higher speed and an angle after getting stuck. The E28 often just sits there spinning its wheels. I watched it do it for a whole minute once before intervening. \- The noise of the base when emptying is no joke and not over exaggerated. It's really loud. It doesn't really bother me, but it is a thing. \- The portable wet vac is nice to have but it's a bit unwieldy and I don't like that I have to take it off to get to the vacuum bag. It's a bit touchy to get it set on the base properly. It gets the job done for what I wanted it for, but in retrospect I wish I had just got the E25. \- The biggest downside to me is the dirty water tank on the robot and the roller mop maintenance. As a plus, the updated water tank does appear to stop the spilling and drips. However, the tank and roller itself are a complete pain to clean. And you have to clean them regularly, especially the tank as it gets very nasty if you mop regularly.

My Roomba is previous gen w/ no LIDAR and is retired. Roborock LIDAR is broken so it's collecting dust right now. I'm swapping between the E28 and V50 to figure out which one I want to keep.

Jamie Andrews did say dreame was working on a very similar robot to the MOVA Z50 Ultra but based on the X50 Ultra so it may come with even better vacuuming with the double brushes with a name that is too long to remember (I’ll shorten it to dualstream). Absolutely hated that arm thing. Gimmick was a waste of R&D funds until it matures into an actual solution that can help the physically disabled and the elderly. I would have preferred a better self cleaning design where they can clean the brushes and side brushes to turn it into nearly maintenance free. The MOVA V50 Ultra is also worth taking a look at. It’s the only combo bot that I am aware of that can change the type of mop pads (3 are in the station) through the MopCarousel system to better suit the floor type. It also comes with some duo solution thing that they claim will neutralize pet odors (I’d love this feature and I think many other pet owners will as well). It’s basically a souped up X50 Ultra.

The MOVA V50 can also climb and seems to clean carpets better than the X50 Ultra :)

MOVA’s one is honestly the most innovative. Switching mops based on floor type wow. Eureka’s transparent stain detection seems good in theory but Midea’s real life application track record has been rather spotty. I hope that changes for them.

>The flagship Mova V50 Ultra features \[...\] a MopSwap Hub in the base station, which houses three types of mop pads in a carousel that the robot can automatically equip. The mop pads specialize in tile floors, hardwood, and general cleaning.  >A retractable track-type mop can extend to clean corners and edges along carpets, a technology Mova calls RoboSwing FlexTrack. When the robot is near hard-to-reach spots, like a corner, the mop extends to clean them and then retracts to continue general mopping. The V50 Ultra also features an extendable side brush to direct dust and debris from corners towards the nozzle. This flagship robot vacuum can also tackle up to 2.3-inch (5.8-5.9cm) high thresholds.  >The Mova Z50 Ultra features warm water mopping up to 36ºC to tackle stubborn stains on hard floors and an AI-powered cleaning strategy to detect varying dirt levels. This robot vacuum and mop can even fluff its mop pads in real time to maintain cleaning efficiency. [https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/kitchen-household/the-best-vacuum-and-mop-combination-ive-tested-is-from-a-company-youve-never-heard-of/](https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/kitchen-household/the-best-vacuum-and-mop-combination-ive-tested-is-from-a-company-youve-never-heard-of/)

The V50 Ultra apparently can switch the mops and some side mop to get closer to carpets. Can’t confirm this through nova’s website but I’ll still take the MOVA Z50 Ultra as well.

Narwal flow’s release seems to have been delayed due to faults discovered by beta testers. I’d recommend waiting for the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track if you want to wait. Below is a comparison photo testing how the Narwal Flow (top panels) compares with the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track (bottom panels) when cleaning carpet with the optimal carpet settings turned on (cleaning twice in a checkerboard pattern and Narwal flow’s pressurized cleaning head being activated). Dreame’s track type roller mop (which was fine tuned over time with MOVA’s G20, G30, and the Z50 Ultra) also seems to be the leading solution since it can exert 18N of pressure when mopping (the most exerted by a roller mop robot and MOVA Z50 Ultra does the same) and can mop with warm water thanks to an onboard water heater heating it up to 45°C (Narwal’s 36°C claim is from the warm water filled at the station). https://preview.redd.it/ej07u60mjk5f1.jpeg?width=1436&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d20f83c2d8b38f54734ef4980fa94c1ff31bde87 Since you live in a home that is rather dusty, I’d check out the dreame L40S Ultra, L40S Pro Ultra, L/X50 Ultra and the MOVA V50 Ultra for the filter self cleaning function when autoemptying. Due to size constraints and the addition of a track type roller mop, the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track uses a different autoempty system and lacks the filter self cleaning function. If there’s a threshold higher than 3cm, I’d recommend the MOVA V50 Ultra, Dreame X50 Ultra, and the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track. If choosing between the MOVA V50 Ultra and the Dreame X50 Ultra, the MOVA V50 Ultra is the better flagship for near-identical models as the vacuuming performance was improved over the x50 Ultra and has the duosolution detergent tank which is well suited for homes needing odors to neutralize since there’s another tank for odor neutralizing detergent. The fact that it can dry the dustbin and dustbag is also a plus for mildew control. The mopping has been improved with tilting mop pads (up to 5°) to automatically adjust to the floor level and can spin up to 260RPM over the X50’s maximum of 180RPM if it detects a liquid or dried on mess. If you want a roller mop robot right now, the eufy E25/E28 or the MOVA Z50 Ultra is a good choice. The MOVA Z50 Ultra will mop more thoroughly though and will know when to clean its mops better with the onboard turbidity sensor facing the mop. If you want to compare the MOVA Z50 Ultra to the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track, the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track should be slightly better for raw mopping performance (only difference is warmer water when mopping), better edge cleaning with an extendable mop (still not as good as spinning mops which is common for roller mop robots with an extending mop), better at antitangling with the double anti tangle brushes (both models’ mop scrapers are comb shaped to help with any potential tangles and I haven’t seen this on roller mop robots from other brands), much better self cleaning (100°C mop cleaning with a PTC plate, dustbin and dustbag drying, and the duosolution tank), better vacuuming, much better obstacle avoidance from the binocular RGB cameras that avoids obstacles without needing to backtrack like all other Dreame and MOVA models and it seems Dreame’s obstacle avoidance is now on par with the Narwal Freo z based on Chinese KOL reviews, and much better obstacle climbing with the ProLeap system .

How tall is the piece of transition? For a single one up to 30mm, the roborock models with the AdaptiLift chassis (the most expensive QRevo Curv/Edge and the Saros line). Anything higher up to 4.2cm, if a threshold is less than 9cm long (5.2cm if it is at least 9cm long), will need the Dreame X50 Ultra or any equivalent MOVA model (V50 Ultra). I am aware that Dreame's L/X50 Ultra and any model (such as MOVA's V50 Ultra or the rare UK-only Dreame L40s Pro Ultra) that uses dual conical brushes has a *live fur compression* feature (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOOU0uJsVdU), which helps mitigate the issue of pet fur clogging the dustbin, even though the space isn't fully utilized. I saw it in action, and I think it lives up to its claim. It also cleans its filter when auto-emptying. This should be helpful for homes with heavy shedders such as yours\~ For paw prints, I think a robot that can identify messes like this and act accordingly would be important too. Dreame and Narwal do well with this if you turn on certain functions, such as their smart cleaning mode and intelligent mess detection.

This is definitely not exclusive on the ecovacs X9 pro omni. Ecovacs is late to this feature. Models that can do this well: Dreame’s L/X40 Ultra and newer (assuming there’s an RGB camera), Narwal Freo Z Ultra; Roborock Saros series and CurvX, MOVA P10 Pro Ultra, P50 Pro Ultra, Z50 Ultra, V50 Ultra

Eufy is not mentioned because it does not have this capability. Best mopping: Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track and the MOVA Z50 Ultra has the best raw mopping performance. If your pets are stinky, the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track or the MOVA V50 Ultra will be my recommendation as it has the duosolution detergent tank which means it can use a special odor neutralizing solution or your regular floor cleaning solution based on your preferences set in the app. The MOVA V50 Ultra does mop better than the Dreame X50 Ultra because it can spin its mops up to 260rpm when it detects dried on stains and liquids and because it has a new mop pad holder that basically has suspension as it can go up 2mm and down 1mm downwards and tilt up to 5° to put as even pressure as possible on uneven floors. Honorable mention: Narwal Freo Z Ultra. Shame it cannot lift its side brushes. Variable mopping pressure of 8-12N but pales in comparison to the 18N of mopping pressure by the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track and the MOVA Z50 Ultra. Best software for detecting liquids and appropriately dealing with them: Dreame L/X40 and newer including the Aqua 10 pro track based on reviews. The MOVA Z50 ultra and the other MOVA models mentioned are also pretty good too at detecting liquids. Previously mentioned Roborock and Narwal models also seem to do well. I think all the models I mentioned should be on par for automatic remopping. Hardware: All models I mentioned should have a solid build quality.

It depends on tall your thresholds are: For single thresholds: Up to 2cm: most modern robots can cross with no difficulty Up to 2.2cm: Dreame L/X40 Ultra. The dreame models with the EasyLeap wheels (L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and the L50 Ultra) can cross the first threshold up to 2.2cm and a secondary threshold right after up to 1.8cm Up to 3cm: roborock models with the AdaptLift chassis. It can cross a single threshold up to 3cm and a secondary threshold right after up to 1cm. Up to 3.5cm: the MOVA P60 Pro Ultra (mainland china only for now) has active suspension like the roborock Adaptlift chassis and the EasyLeap edge climbing wheels to climb a single threshold up to 3.5cm and a secondary threshold up to 3.5cm. Up to 4.2cm: Dreame X50 Ultra, Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track, and the MOVA V50 Ultra all can cross a single threshold up to 4.2cm if the threshold is shorter than 9-10cm (5.2cm if the threshold is sufficiently long enough) and a secondary threshold up to 1.8cm.

In Singapore, I’d totally recommend the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track Ultra if you want heated mopping and the vacuuming performance from the MOVA V50 Ultra and the mopping from the MOVA Z50 Ultra.

The best self cleaning models can also clean the base station’s mop washboard and the vacuum’s filter. I’d recommend these ones which can do this: Currently the best at self cleaning: the MOVA V50 Ultra can dry it’s dustbin and dustbag to prevent mildew unlike the other choices which brings it above the other robots Almost there: Dreame L/X50 Ultra, L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra In the middle: MOVA P50 Pro Ultra Pretty okay at self cleaning: MOVA P10 Pro Ultra, Dreame L/X40, roborock models with the motorized scrapers, Narwal models with an all in one base station.

Roomba isn't the best at combo robots compared to Roborock and Dreame which make better all-rounded combos. Roborock seems to be rather reliable. I'd also consider MOVA's V50 Ultra which is better suited for pet households since there's the ability for the robot to choose between regular cleaning solution and a pet-odor neutralization solution! I consider the V50 Ultra to be an upgrade over the X50 Ultra. Alternatively, I'd wait for Dreame's Aqua 10 Pro Track to release, as it appears to be the best overall combination robot vacuum and mop with a roller mop. :)

H14 is better for deep cleaning messes and the robot is better for maintaining that cleanliness. Many robots are rather quiet now, especially at the normal suction mode. MOVA’s V50 ultra is the most hands off robot vacuum combo I can think of since it can clean its own filter and the washboard very well like the dreame X50 ultra but also be able to dry the dustbin and the dustbag to prevent any mold from growing in there. It also helps that the debut price should be 999 USD in the US and that both the x50 and the V50 are really quiet when running.

Isn’t there the MOVA V50 Ultra at 999? It’s even quieter than the Dreame X40 and has a bigger dustbin than the X40 ultra at 395ml and can compress fur in the dustbin as it vacuums, perfect for heavy shedding pet households. I’d recommend this one over the dreame x50 ultra mainly because it’s cheaper and it’s an enhanced version of the x50 ultra.

Bigger dustbin + good use of dustbin when it comes to fur (no empty space should be in the dustbin when fur clogs it) + frequent autoemptying = better for dealing with hair and fur. For a vacuum only model, the roborock Q5 Max+ and the Q8 Max+ have a sizeable dustbin and uses the dustbin space well and has an autoempty station. The dual rollers help with fur pickup. In the US Dreame’s L/X50 Ultra fulfills these requirements as a combo model. So does the MOVA V50 Ultra for Canadian customers. The QRevo series has the same issue with some dreame models where the dustbin will be clogged with fur but there’ll be a lot of empty space on the sides. It’ll be good for picking up fur on carpets with its dual brushes but I think the eufy X8 should be better for dealing with finer dust.

Dreame and MOVA will be much better at avoiding cords than roborock. Both Dreame and roborock will definitely avoid pet puke. I’m not so sure about eufy but their cord avoidance should be alright. For pet fur, I’d prioritize the dreame X50 Ultra or the MOVA V50 Ultra (999 debut price if you sign up to their mailing list) since it has a rather large dustbin at 395mL and has a fur compression feature that works so the dustbin won’t get as easily clogged with fur and also have empty space at the sides (see the attached photo). This seems to be an issue with the dustbin on the dreame/MOVA models using the X40’s dustbin like the MOVA P50 Pro Ultra and the Roborock QRevo models. https://preview.redd.it/7c1epilq82af1.png?width=1346&format=png&auto=webp&s=d15280bdd75310e1d87e2557a9f350b20c85b02d As for fur tangling around the rollers, I wouldn’t worry about this issue for the dreame/eufy/roborock/MOVA models you’ve shown. Do note that any cuts in the rubber flaps on the antitangle brushes will mean the antitangle ability is deactivated and you’d have to change the brushes.

As for hair pickup on carpet, I think the Dreame dual brushes generally do better picking up hair on carpet than the Dreame/MOVA TriCut brush on the P50 Pro ultra. Dreame/Eufy/MOVA/Roborock’s antitangle brushes that don’t need to cut the fur should all do equally well picking up fur and hair on carpets and hard floors. I’d recommend a robot that removes its mops for carpet as I find that lifted mops on carpets generally drag on it, collecting fur and dirt while negatively affect cleaning performance. As for mopping, ecovacs’ X8 isn’t really worth looking at given the other models already available (not in the US yet) that mop much better than it. Eufy’s E25/E28 should do better as a roller mop robot. For the spinning mop robots, MOVA’s V50 Ultra and the roborock flagships should be pretty evenly matched. X50 ultra doesn’t put enough water even at the max level which isn’t great for dried on stains.

I have a long haired corgi who I suspect is part alien for how big he is! I sometimes check the dustbin before it autoempties and *wow* that’s a lot of fur that would have choked my old robot up which is why I’d run my old one twice a day. I can now run my new one once a day. I use a similar model too, the MOVA v50.

I’d totally recommend the MOVA v50 ultra for homes that are blanketed in fur shedders! I have a long haired corgi and I love how the fur compression wasn’t a gimmick and actually worked. MOVA sent me their MOVA v50 ultra to test and post about and here’s my review that shows the fur compression and other pet stuff in action. You can bring this model up to vacuum first, bring it back down to autoempty, wash the mops at the station and bring it down once after one or two rooms are mopped to clean the mops. https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1mmdaw4/still_not_perfect_but_my_dog_and_i_think_the_mova/

My long haired corgi does the same with his own “beard” (or is mane a more appropriate term?) and we have very high gloss white and light gray tiles with him tracking him tons of dirt, leaf, and wood debris simply because he’s built like a living duster. I was recently gifted the MOVA v50 ultra by MOVA in exchange for making content on Reddit. I was pleasantly surprised by all the fur it picked up just a day after my old robot ran. I really like the fur compression feature and how antitangle it is, the option to use a pet odor neutralization solution to wash the mops (floors now don’t smell like stinky dog but stinky dog still smells like stinky dog) and a regular mopping solution, and the dustbin and dustbag drying has prevented dust mites from growing which usually show up in a day after use. My family members work from home, often taking calls, and they constantly praise how it’s quiet enough to pass as a fan when vacuuming so they’ll let it run when on a call and it’s much quieter mopping. The only tradeoff in comparison to my old one is that it’s quite power hungry! But since I can leave it alone and do its own thing and hasn’t gotten stuck in places where my old robot always got stuck, I don’t really mind that it’s power hungry. My little Machiavelli, the prince of taking fur and drool away. Here’s a pic of the dustbin compression in action. https://preview.redd.it/niy5jdb9s8ef1.png?width=2879&format=png&auto=webp&s=a95c8cd8b81a5a66c96146680bf9142ff6978652 Roborock is also good. The models you’re checking are last gen or budget ones. Robrocok’s vibrarise (may be the best vibrating mops) and spinning mops are pretty good and their app UI and navigation is arguably one of the best. Obstacle avoidance isn’t the best, not so great for cables but I’m not sure about how it does for clothes. It should still do pretty okay since they’re more obvious than cables. What about the Narwal Freo Z ultra? It has the best spinning mops out of all the spinning mops, arguably the best cleaning mode, also has dustbin and dustbag drying (currently I think only MOVA V50 ultra and the Narwal models offer this feature). The only tradeoff is that it’s very water hungry (not power hungry this time) so larger homes should connect it to plumbing.

Narwal’s main weakness is vacuuming. Unfortunately I’ve only tried the MOVA v50 ultra but not the z50 ultra. The z50 ultra’s main strength is its raw mopping capability. This is with just one pass and after two passes of this reviewer’s grimy toilet, it was clean save for the edges which the roller mop couldn’t clean (the mini side mop is best suited for fine dust, not grime like this). https://preview.redd.it/yif1tamvh9ef1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=445463051a4a44659348de83456db492892c1a5b The V50 ultra’s main strength is its more balanced vacuuming and mopping capabilities, better self cleaning for lower maintenance, and does better with fur than the z50 which has the dustbin design which can clog with fur in the middle but have empty space on the sides. As a spinning mop robot, it mops pretty well since it can tilt the mops for more even pressure on uneven floors. Here’s a pretty good German review of it(autodubs and subtitles are available): [https://youtu.be/QQSaBQJof\_0](https://youtu.be/QQSaBQJof_0) I ran it on CleanGenius vacuum first then mop in my kitchen after cooking and the greasy floors because literally squeaky clean. I really like the dustbin and dustbag drying feature in your situation. So even if the robot vacuums up dried food marks or treat crumbs, the dustbin and dustbag will be hot enough to discourage mold growth which leads to gross smells. As previously mentioned, the Narwal robots can do this too.

Generally for maintenance you’d need to tap the dust out of the dustbin filter once every few cleaning runs (you need to do it after every run for the first few times using the robot). Youd have to give it a good rinse once every week or every two weeks and let it dry for at least 24 hours You’d also have to wipe down any dust and/or mud once every two weeks or so. Once every month, you’d need to wash the dustbin and let it dry completely for at least 24 hours. To prevent annoying to clean mud, run the robot to vacuum first then mop. The dreame L/X50, the L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and the MOVA P50S Ultra and the MOVA V50 Ultra can clean their dustbin filter when autoemptying which helps remove the need to tap the dust out of the filter. For combo models with an all in one base station. You’d also have to refill and empty the dirty water tanks (best to rinse them every time you do so) as soon as they get empty or get full and give the dirty water tank a good scrub with dish soap once in a while. Odor can be an issue. I recommend adding a silver ion module to the clean water tank and dirty water tank and a deodorization module to the dirty water tank to reduce needed maintenance and any bacterial biofilm from forming. With these modules, please rinse the dirty water tank’s modules every time you empty it. Please don’t leave the dirty water tank alone for more than 2 days as mold and gross bacteria can grow in there.

Oh wow that’s a great price then. The x50 ultra is a pretty good choice. There’s also the MOVA V50 ultra which has a basically smaller base station and can dry the dustbin and dustbag which is good at helping prevent mildew and mold growing there if your region is rather humid.

Yep the MOVA v50 is basically an upgraded x50 with a smaller dustbin which should be fine in your situation. If getting cats, the duosolution detergent tank that also supports a pet odor neutralization solution can be helpful.

Then the x50 will be a better deal than the MOVA. sometimes the MOVA V50 is cheaper which is why I also recommend it. MOVA is a subbrand of dreame. The V50’s consumables should be cross compatible with dreame’s consumables. Not sure about the filter though.

MOVA sent me their MOVA V50 ultra as part of their Reddit collaboration program in return for a review. I have a long haired corgi that sheds everywhere and I’d often wake up with a facial mask of his fur before we had our first robot vacuum. You can read my review here. https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/KkEdwEU2wp

I was actually expecting the fur compression feature to not work but it did to my surprise. https://preview.redd.it/18npcz138knf1.png?width=2856&format=png&auto=webp&s=a54aad51912aa574431466b2f3ac5a2d71c20cdf

I’d recommend the MOVA v50 ultra mainly for the fur compression feature and the other features which I think actually work for homes with pets. MOVA sent me the MOVA v50 in exchange for making content about it. I wrote an honest semi-review of it. https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1mmdaw4/still_not_perfect_but_my_dog_and_i_think_the_mova/ There are other models with the fur compression feature such as the Dreame l50 pro ultra/ultra, the x50 ultra, and the l40s ultra/pro ultra. However the MOVA v50 has more upgrades which are helpful such as dustbin and dustbag drying and the duosolution tank which is why I recommend it over the x50.

Budget? Love how the MOVA v50 ultra does great with my long haired corgi’s fur but not so much a fan of how quickly it eats its battery. MOVA sent me their V50 in return for making content. Here’s my honest semi-review of it. https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1mmdaw4/still_not_perfect_but_my_dog_and_i_think_the_mova/

MOVA v50 ultra will have more features than the l50 ultra and is better suited for homes with pets as it has the duosolution tank, better mopping, and dustbin/dustbag drying. MOVA is the fighter/flanker subbrand of dreame so their flagship offerings may not always be as expensive as the Dreame flagship but offer different features.

1. It really depends on your purchasing region. Costco is a popular choice given its generous return policy but choices are rather limited compared to buying from Amazon which has an easy return policy within 30 days. For other purchasing regions, buying from a reputable retailer with a good return policy and an optional protection plan would be good. In Australia, I heard Harvey Norman is nicer with returns compared to JB HIFI. 2. The robots with the best self cleaning will be Dreame’s L/X50 Ultra/L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and MOVA’s V50 Ultra P50S Ultra > MOVA’s P50 Ultra/ Pro Ultra > Roborock’s models that have spinning mops with the Multifunctional Dock 3.0 (roborock models with a vibrating mop have a washboard that is more difficult to clean as you can’t remove it) ≈ Narwal Freo models (completely detachable base) > Dreame’s models with the mop-driven wiper mop washboard (cleaning the wiper washboard is rather difficult since there’s too many nooks and crannies and you’d still have to get down to clean the areas the wipers can’t reach) > other combo robots with an all in one base station As for combo robots with roller mops and have an all in one base station, the washboard is generally flat with a few grooves so it’s pretty easy to clean. I believe most of their washboards are removable. However, it’ll require more cleaning in the mop compartment and dirty water tank. Most roller mop models have an annoying cylindrical component which drives the roller mop like an upright wet dry vacuum but you can’t remove or move it to give it a deeper clean even if gunk is stuck on it. The only combos that are close to the level of self cleaning for spinning mop models are Dreame’s Aqua 10 Pro track, the MOVA Z50 Ultra, and the Narwal Flow since both have self-cleaning mechanisms that are made to also clean the dirty water tank and the mop compartment while also having a very easy to clean mop compartment since the thing that moves the mops is also completely removable. If you want to support a US startup, you could look at the Matic since it’s a vacuum and mop robot but taking care of it looks rather easy since it lacks a base station. The maintenance involved is replacing the bag, refilling the water with a cleaning solution of choice, occasionally cleaning the roller mop, the roller mop filter, cleaning the brush roller and de clogging the mop tubes if needed.

The real downside of the v50 in my use was the battery life and glossy finish.

In terms of? To me I think the short battery life is something I’m fine with since it’s actually cleaning. I haven’t seen another model with much better battery life that has the fur compression feature which is something I really like about this model. If you want to learn more about the battery life, I measured battery consumption, you can refer to my semi-review of the V50. MOVA sent me the v50 in exchange for making content on Reddit which I’ve done way before they contacted me. https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1mmdaw4/still_not_perfect_but_my_dog_and_i_think_the_mova/

The L40S Ultra only has structured light for obstacle avoidance which won’t avoid cords. For those wanting a combo robot that does well with heavily shedding pets, I generally recommend the Dreame/MOVA models for their fur compression feature. I have a long haired corgi and it works as advertised. I swear the MOVA V50 ultra was at 949 on Amazon once but I’d wait for a sale. MOVA sent me their V50 Ultra to review. Do also check out the L50 Pro ultra and the X50 Ultra.

I’d consider the v50 to be better suited for homes that have pets, especially ones that shed a lot, because of the dustbin/dustbag drying and the duosolution tank surprisingly helped with my stinky dog’s stinky smell on the floors at least.

I’d consider the v50 to be better suited for homes that have pets, especially ones that shed a lot, because of the dustbin/dustbag drying and the duosolution tank surprisingly helped with my stinky dog’s stinky smell on the floors at least. MOVA sent me their MOVA v50 ultra in exchange for making content on Reddit. I’ve written an honest semi review on it (only a few aspects are missing which is the only thing stopping me from calling it a review) https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1mmdaw4/still_not_perfect_but_my_dog_and_i_think_the_mova/

If you’ve got a fluffy friend, you know the unspoken Faustian bargain: unconditional love in exchange for a home permanently blanketed in fur—and a daily lake of drool waiting in the places where you least expect, just for you to step in. Most robot vacuums promise barefoot-friendly floors, but I’ve been burned before. My old budget bot had to run twice a day just to keep up with my long-haired corgi, or its dustbin would clog with fur. So when MOVA sent me their new V50 Ultra as part of their Reddit collaboration program, I wasn’t expecting it to be much better. I did not receive any money from this collaboration. # Receiving the MOVA V50 Ultra:  I received the V50 Ultra in a fairly nondescript cardboard box, sealed with MOVA-branded tape. Inside was the main retail box, also covered in MOVA logos. It’s on the heavier side, so handle with care—I found it a bit awkward to lift, even with the cut-out handles, as the box is quite wide. Sliding the main box out of the outer protective box took a bit of effort. [A photo of the MOVA V50 Ultra's main box](https://preview.redd.it/suyrslcv85if1.png?width=4284&format=png&auto=webp&s=038586383a6a0eec69f580eafb48d119b0f70ede) On the box, MOVA proudly lists all the bells and whistles: * **DuoSolution tank**: You can add a pet odor-neutralizing solution to tackle that dreaded pet funk, along with a general floor detergent in a separate, larger tank. The detergent mixes with water as it fills the robot’s internal tank for regular mopping, while the deodorizing solution is used specifically to clean the mops. * **StepMaster climbing**: can clear small steps up to 6cm total—specifically, 4.2cm followed by 1.8cm. * **24,000Pa suction**: a wildly high number that beats the Dreame X50 on paper, putting it on par with even some cordless vacuum cleaners. * **JetSpray DryBoard**: uses 20 high-pressure jets to clean the mops and washboard. * **Edge cleaning**: side brush and mop can extend to reach corners and along walls. * **FlexiPress mop**: tilts up to 5° for more even pressure on uneven floors, spins at up to 260 RPM with 8N of pressure. * **80°C (176°F) mop washing**: hot water mop rinse to lift grease from the mops. * **OmniDry system**: dries the mops in as little as an hour, .and fully dries the dustbin and dustbag in about three But as you might already know, **I don’t care much for spec sheets alone**. I care about what actually adds value to autonomy or cleaning performance in the real world. So here are my surface-level first impressions—and a closer look at whether these features actually live up to the claims.  **Unpacking it:** The packaging was solid and well-protected. Aside from some minor dents and cosmetic scuffs on the plain outer box (doing its job, really), everything inside arrived intact. The double-boxed design used thick, durable cardboard throughout. No complaints there—though I do wish the unboxing experience felt a bit more premium or luxurious for a flagship device. [The accessory kit is packed inside the main box and is the first thing you see when opening the box](https://preview.redd.it/9gnpp29795if1.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bab79a92551eb02606185ce5961203f94a1b0cbc) Right at the top of the main box is the oversized accessory kit—and it’s *stacked*. You get: * **Twelve extra mops** (enough for six replacements) * **1L of MOVA floor detergent** (the detergent tank holds up to 400mL, so this covers over two full refills) * **200mL pet odor-neutralizing solution** (exactly one full fill of the B tank) * **Three spare dust bags** * **Three extra filters** (rated for 450 vacuuming hours total) * **Two side brush replacements** (designed for easy swapping every 200 hours with a screwdriver) * **A spare pair of double anti-tangle main brushes** (rated for 300 vacuuming hours; note: replacing them takes a surprising amount of force to pull out and snap back in, with careful alignment of the hexagonal rods and brush holes) [Look at all the accessories!](https://preview.redd.it/infdrbys95if1.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21979f38d4d280cae296152779eae2d0be2264e0) Frankly, this is one of the most generous accessory kits I’ve seen bundled with any robot vacuum—especially in this price range. Most brands don’t even include a single bottle of detergent, even after charging this much.  [From top to bottom, the base station's power cable bundled up, the two FlexiPress mop pad holders with mop pads attached, and the base station's removable ramp](https://preview.redd.it/321r2cr7k5if1.jpg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02533e82cfbcb377e96123e98af3a32f15afa973) Beneath the accessory kit is a smaller side box on the left, containing the dock’s detachable ramp (handy for cleaning), the power cable, and the robot’s mop pads pre-attached to the magnetic FlexiPress holders. Once that’s out of the way, you’ll see the main robot box with a sturdy built-in plastic handle for easy lifting. Under that, the dock itself is neatly packed inside a protective plastic.  **Build quality:**  [The MOVA V50 Ultra is in its base station on the left of my old robot vacuum in its dock. The MOVA's base station is noticeably shorter.](https://preview.redd.it/f88vnh2gk5if1.jpg?width=5160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a16bdebf3c7157998f1eb5c81c3432b375e21a0a) The MOVA V50 Ultra Complete and its base station feel impressively well-built. While mostly plastic, the construction is sturdy and durable. The magnetic top cover snaps on securely—no issues with weak magnets or misalignment. The brushes also feel solid and well-made. I’m not a fan of the glossy plastic finish, though; it’s a magnet for fingerprints and, unsurprisingly, fur. The dustbin is made from hard plastic and took a hit when I accidentally dropped it, leaving a scuffed white mark. So yes, it’s tough, but not invincible. **Setting up the robot:** To test ease of use, I handed the setup over to the most technologically challenged family member—and they had no trouble. Pairing the robot was simple, and mapping was surprisingly quick. Impressively, the robot managed to escape my shower’s 3cm threshold using its secondary wheels, part of MOVA’s so-called StepMaster system. Older robots would have gotten stuck in there during mapping. I actually expected to configure this manually in the app, but the robot automatically recognized the threshold as passable and added it to the map. Nice. It also recognized that my kitchen cabinets had just enough clearance for it to duck under by retracting its LIDAR, and marked the area as low-clearance. That said, it struggled with the diagonal section of my kitchen counter, which I had to manually fix. It also mislabeled my bedroom as a kitchen and didn’t quite get the orientation of the wooden floorboards right—but otherwise, room partitioning and labeling were fairly accurate. My family member noted a bit of a learning curve when customizing room partitions, but once they figured it out, setup was smooth. I do wish there were an option to label a space as an “entryway” in the rooms you can choose from, but fortunately, you can rename any room however you like. As for ultrasonic carpet detection, it correctly identified the office rug and most of the carpet under the coffee table, though the detection was patchy and required me to manually define that area. If you have fully carpeted rooms, you can mark them as such—but it takes a bit of digging through the settings. [The DuoSolution Tank and the pet odor solution is pictured together with the B tank made to be filled with the pet odor solution](https://preview.redd.it/qkxsswe8c5if1.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f2ecfb097b13b8eb83ec26e376f05ce03e408bc) After filling the DuoSolution tank with both the general detergent and the pet odor-neutralizing solution, and topping up the clean water tank, it was time to let the robot earn its keep. I didn’t actually have high hopes—so I ran my old robot a day prior to vacuum and mop first, just in case. I then ran the V50 Ultra in CleanGenius vacuum mode, followed by deep cleaning mop mode. I wanted to see if it was a CleanGenius… or a CleanDummy. To my surprise, the kitchen—normally coated in a fine layer of grease that required two passes from my old robot—was squeaky clean in just one. The wooden floors were also noticeably softer and smoother to walk on after just a single pass. When I pulled out the dirty water tank, the results were obvious: not only was the water noticeably darker than what my old robot usually picked up, but there was a visible layer of grease floating on top. The tank was greasy enough that I had to wash it with a sponge and dish soap—suggesting the hot water mop washing was *actually doing its job* and lifting grease off the mops effectively. I attribute this improved mopping performance to a few things.  * **More pressure for a deeper scrub**: the V50 Ultra mops with 8N of downward pressure, which really helps on hard floors.  * **The mops hug the floor better**: The FlexiPress system also keeps mop pressure more evenly applied across uneven surfaces, thanks to its ability to tilt up to 5 degrees and adjust vertically by a few millimeters—something my old robot always struggled with.  * **Automatic detergent mixing**: The robot also automatically mixes detergent with water before mopping, so it’s not just wiping with plain water.  * **Faster mop spinning**: the mops can spin up to 260rpm, and when I ran it in CleanGenius deep clean mode, the mopping was noticeably louder, suggesting it was spinning faster than the regular 180rpm.  * **Better synergy**: I suspect the improved vacuuming internals are helping remove more invisible dust, which gives the mops a clearer path to scrub deeper grime. I do wish the CleanGenius icon gave more insight into what it’s doing, other than just vaguely telling me “CleanGenius is cleaning.” [The MOVA V50 Ultra cleaning under my kitchen cabinets with its LIDAR tower retracted](https://preview.redd.it/znnvsg1ub5if1.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df3c3f14b148da5f08a461d166e293501f982cb8) For under-the-counter cleaning in the kitchen, the robot lowered its lidar and hugged the edges appropriately. Good bot. I’ve heard some other V50 Ultras get less efficient when their lidar retracts, but I haven’t seen that myself. I’d need a giant balsa wood obstacle course to test that properly. [The fur in the dustbin is compressed to one end of the dustbin so it can collect as much fur as possible](https://preview.redd.it/c0w6kulpi5if1.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=657daaaef5dd697f09cec71ce2e289fc5668ad75) The dustbin tells the whole story. Compared to my old robot, fur was visibly compressed, making far better use of the bin space—credit to MOVA’s hair compression feature. The base station even blows air through the filter during the auto-empty cycle, clearing out the clingy dust bunnies that used to get stuck in the pleats. The result? I went from smacking the filter against the trash can every night to cleaning it maybe once every two weeks. [No hair or fur was stuck around the axles of the omnidirectional wheel.](https://preview.redd.it/31v3fwa7j5if1.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=641f69fc47f4683c7d66dfd1424a6147e43be86b) [No fur was tangled on the dual TroboWave brushes, with fur clinging to the bristles](https://preview.redd.it/qummmixdj5if1.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df60ac2e947908e254cd0f0f4a3bb63f55fc8da7) [Upon closer insepction, the only the brush with bristles has some fur with it but it is not tangled.](https://preview.redd.it/bejzg32jj5if1.jpg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50b9eb4a5b5c899908b35b1f56cde99b3b658311) [Only a few strands of fur remain in the brush compartment after the brushes are removed. ](https://preview.redd.it/1oi3zr7nj5if1.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e733e4557c82eac1b15497ee6bc0bf942052a482) And the anti-tangle claims? Not just marketing. Even waist-length hair—longer than the advertised 11.8” (30 cm) limit—didn’t tangle in the TroboWave™ dual brushes, the side brush, or the omnidirectional wheel. It was also brilliant on carpets, where the dual-brush system agitated and lifted my dog’s fur far more effectively than my old single-brush bot ever managed. My family, who all work from home, immediately noticed how quiet it was. While mopping at 180 rpm, it was nearly silent. During a vacuum run, I measured it at a conversation-friendly 55–60 dB—noticeable, but never disruptive. # The Coffee Granule Test To push beyond marketing specs, I simulated a tough mess using freeze-dried coffee—a mix of large granules and fine powder. I set the robot to CleanGenius mode with “large particle boost” enabled. [The original spill of instant coffee powder](https://preview.redd.it/i7hc699xf5if1.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb983bb958dea075e6373402e69c53295a80d3fe) [After the second pass, no instant coffee was left behind](https://preview.redd.it/2ngzj89xf5if1.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b11d3febede717b8b481c271148829ddb1cde60) What followed was a masterclass in intelligent cleaning. The robot: * Correctly identified the spill and its size, marked it on the app, and slowed its approach. * Increased suction while reducing the side brush speed to gently sweep granules inward. * Lifted the side brush entirely when crossing the main spill to prevent scattering. * Made two slow, methodical passes in perpendicular directions, creating a grid-like pattern. After the first pass, every large granule was gone. After the second, so was the fine coffee dust. A perfect pickup. MOVA claims its pet odor neutralizing solution really works, so I put it to the test. I turned on high-frequency mode, which uses the solution every time it washes the mops, to tackle that classic “wet dog” smell after my pup’s adventures in the grass. After just one vacuum first and then mop cycle, the only place I could smell the dog was… well, on the dog himself. Floors? Fresh and odor-free.  **AI Obstacle Avoidance** I tested the robot in a chaotic environment littered with obstacles: charging cables on the floor, a camera tripod with legs low enough to ride up, chairs with just enough clearance to be a trap, and dog toys everywhere. My old robot would have been instantly stuck thanks to my dog, who loves to sploot right in the middle of the hallway. But the MOVA navigated everything without getting stuck once. What impressed me most was watching its adaptive AI learn in real time. On day one, it clumsily tried to climb the tripod legs. By day two, it was more cautious, riding up on them only about half the time. On day three, it had figured it out completely and cleaned neatly along the legs without mounting them at all. **OmniDry: Mop and Dustbin Drying** MOVA also touts its OmniDry system, which uses warm air to dry the mops, the internal washboard, and even the dustbin and dustbag to prevent mildew and odors. MOVA doesn’t list an official drying temperature, but a similar feature on another premium robot by its parent Dreame uses 122°F (50°C) air. Even at 86% humidity, the system dried the mops and washboard in just one hour on “Quick Dry.” To test the dustbin drying, I dampened some dog fur, put it in the dustbag, and ran a three-hour drying cycle — after which the fur felt completely dry. Theoretically, this thorough drying should help stop mold and odor growth. It’s only been about 1,000 m² (\~10,000 ft²) of cleaning so far, so it’s too early to confirm long-term benefits, but the initial signs look very promising **Self-Cleaning & Maintenance** The base station does a solid job cutting down on daily chores, though it’s not completely hands-off. The auto-empty cycle is strong enough to clear fine dust from the filter’s pleats, but I did notice a few strands of my dog’s fur stubbornly clinging to the filter’s rubber seal. [The JetSpray Dryboard, as pictured, was able to keep itself rather clean with oly a few stray strands of fur remaining on the mop washboard and no visible grime stuck to any nooks and crannies. ](https://preview.redd.it/ylldb4lhe5if1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58a820016e8e1e640db55f04426f3fbb79d6867a) The mop washing system is a huge step up from my old robot, whose washboard was always a magnet for fur and grime. After about 1,000 m² of cleaning, the MOVA’s washboard stayed impressively clean, with all the debris collected neatly in a removable, palm-sized drainage filter that’s easy to rinse under the tap. [Despite keeping the mop washboard relatively clean, fine dust and dirt builds up under the drainage filter over time as shown here.](https://preview.redd.it/e3sabf7yc5if1.jpg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af7e4220d12f800e7fb91d0069acf2ca2b61e347) That said, a fine layer of sludge does build up over time in the tray beneath the filter. Since the washboard assembly itself isn’t removable, you have to get down on your hands and knees to clean that part manually. I wish the robot either cleaned this area automatically or had a removable tray for easier maintenance. All up, this makes a night-and-day difference in my daily routine. With my old robot, my daily maintenance checklist looked like this: * Tapping dust out of the filter * Picking trapped fur off the washboard * Rescuing it from cables that it tried to chew or the tripod it kept trying to climb Now, with the MOVA, my main tasks are simply refilling the clean water tank and emptying the dirty one. The robot and base station stay so much cleaner that a proper hands-on clean is only needed every few weeks—definitely not every single day. **Battery Life & Charging** To gauge real-world battery efficiency, I ran the robot on customized cleaning cycles with consistent settings. The results weren’t quite as impressive as I’d hoped they'd be, as it has a battery capacity of 6400mAh. On a standard vacuuming run, it cleaned just under 1 m² (\~10.5 ft²) per 1% of battery used. When mopping, efficiency more than doubled, covering over 2 m² (\~22.3 ft²) per percentage point consumed. In practice, after a full CleanGenius vacuum cycle followed by a mop run over my entire home, the robot typically consumes about 60% of its battery per cleaning session. In contrast, my old robot, with a smaller 5200 mAh battery, used around 40% for the same vacuum-then-mop routine. For larger homes of around 100 m² (\~1,075 ft²) or more, the “resume cleaning” feature is necessary, letting the robot return to its base to recharge before it resumes cleaning. Charging speeds are solid as well: it charges rapidly at roughly 1% per minute until hitting 20%, then slows to about 0.5% per minute to preserve battery health over time. You can also protect the battery's long-term health by setting a charge limit in the app, with options for 80%, 90%, or a full 100%. # Pros & Cons **Pros:** Very quiet, great with handling a lot of fur and hair, mops quite well and quietly, hot mop washing effectively lifts grease from the mops, pretty hands off, a smaller and more squat base station compared to some others, the customization for your robot is plentiful, the charging limit is a step forward in ensuring the longetivity of your robot’s battery, charges pretty quick **Cons:** not a fan of the glossy white plastic used as it’s a fingerprint magnet, you’d still need to manually clean the dirt and dust that builds up at the mop washboard’s drainage area, there is no way to manually customize how fast the mop spins as the mops only speed up on CleanGenius deep cleaning mode or when stain detection is turned on, slightly smaller water tanks of a 1 gallon clean water tank and a 0.9 dirty water tank compared to similarly priced options on the market (this is a tradeoff if you prefer a smaller base station) do mean more frequently refilling, the app’s near unlimited customization makes the UI a bit cluttered and requires a learning curve for those not as tech snazzy, the battery life is actually strangely short.  # TLDR: **Get it if:** * You want a robot that’ll reliably dodge cables and other things that could trip up dumb bots, so you won’t need to rescue it all the time.  * You have a pet that sheds a lot and/or stinks a lot, making the floors stinky despite your best attempts to coax it into having a bath.  * Your home has long hair that you and other family members are shedding.  * You want a quiet robot that happily zips around  * Your home has more hard floors than carpet.  * You have thresholds in your home, like sliding door frames, and thresholds in different rooms, like the bathroom or the kitchen.  **Don’t get it if:** * Your home is mostly carpet (vacuuming only robots are better suited) * You want a robot that can be later plumbed into your laundry water lines.  * You want it to clean under places with a clearance of 8.9cm or lower.  * You want MO from Wall-E to say foreign contaminant every time it starts cleaning.   * A totally hands-free robot vacuum that requires absolutely no maintenance (unless you were smart enough to tell your future self that to deliver one to you with a Time Machine) I'm happy to answer any questions you have about this robot or my experience in the comments below! Stay tuned for my in-depth review in a few weeks, where I'll test its long-term autonomy to see how it truly holds up with minimal maintenance—just refilling and emptying the tanks! Generative AI statement: No generative AI has been used in this post. Only the spot removal tool in Adobe Lightroom was used to hide the robot's SN with generative AI *turned off*.

MOVA sent me their MOVA V50 in exchange for making content on Reddit about it. I can verify that the pet odor neutralization solution works. Here’s a mini review of it. https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1mmdaw4/still_not_perfect_but_my_dog_and_i_think_the_mova/ Compared to the flow I like how it can automatically dispense detergent and dry the dustbin and dustbag (something that was in other autoemptying Narwal models but not the Flow). The Dreame Aqua track and the Narwal flow look like the lowest maintenance roller mop robots right now.

I'd mainly look at the MOVA V50 Ultra for the dustbin/dustbag drying function to prevent odor and mildew. MOVA sent me their MOVA V50 Ultra in exchange for a [review](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1mmdaw4/still_not_perfect_but_my_dog_and_i_think_the_mova/) and creating content on Reddit. I do have a heavily shedding long-haired corgi, and it helps a lot. Turning on hair compression and setting it to autoempty at high frequency (about once every 12sqm/130sqft) will help you a lot. I do find autoemptying loud enough to make my corgi perk his ears up, but it autoempties well. However, I'd also consider the MOVA Z60 Ultra, coming to the US and currently for sale in Western Europe, mainly because its roller mop's self cleaning and much higher mopping downward force at 17N (the V50 is at 8N) is going to make it best suited for muddy paw prints. However, the dustbin is 210mL, much smaller than the V50's so I expect it to heavily rely on autoemptying on the high frequency setting. Once I receive my Z60 Ultra, I'll put it through its paces and post a review :) > You must vacuum the whole house before mopping. Otherwise it'll just glue wet pet hair to the floor as it mops It's best to run a combo robot vacuum and mop, vacuuming first, then mopping, to avoid this issue. Trust me, I've experimented with so many settings, and vacuuming first before mopping greatly helps. The amount of glued on fur and hair I found when my old robot vacuumed and mopped at the same time turned my hardfloor home into a carpeted home...

Vacuum only: roborock q5 or q8 max+ or the switchbot k10+ with a tangle resistant all rubber brush. Vacuum and mop combo: MOVA P10 Pro ultra at 399 (I think on Amazon US). This is a de facto last gen flagship and the antitangle TriCut brush (may ship in a bundle or needs to be bought separately from MOVA/dreame but AliExpress resellers can be cheaper) worked great with my long fur corgi’s fur and tumbleweeds. This one is least likely to get stuck compared to the previous options. Compared to other vacuum and mop combos under 400 which are solid budget robots, the p10 pro ultra blows them out of the water. As for the curved legs, I think the MOVA may at first try to ride up them then eventually learn how to properly avoid them. I have the MOVA V50 ultra and after it humped tripod legs on the first day, it was able to “learn” how to smoothly follow the tripod legs and avoid riding up on them on the third day (second day produced mixed results).

You can move the base station around but it can be rather heavy with my current MOVA V50 ultra at 14kg (30kg). For this reason, MOVA allows you to bring the robot down to autoempty or to wash the mops and bring it back up so it can continue. The MOVA did pick up much more fur than my old robot just a day apart (featuring a long haired corgi who just loves to shed and drool) https://preview.redd.it/9eyxrwwtpsef1.png?width=2830&format=png&auto=webp&s=d0fb87873b755e1873d856d11822c6ef804a1d16 I did receive this MOVA v50 from MOVA in exchange for creating content but I didn’t groom my dog’s fur in between cleanings (mostly because I didn’t think it could pick up that much fur at first).

I noticed something similar with a tripod stand at home and my MOVA V50 Ultra (a souped-up Dreame X50)! It would hump the stands on day one, either hump or correctly avoid the stands (50/50 chance) on day two, and it perfectly navigated around the legs and followed the edges well on day three. This tripod stand is often moved around so I was pleasantly surprised when it was still able to recognize it was the tripod stand and deal with it appropriately (yet it still doesn't register as an obstacle as a base in the app).

I’d recommend the MOVA v50 mainly because it has the fur compression feature unlike the p50 pro ultra. MOVA sent me the MOVA v50 in return for making a review of it. I tested it in real life with a heavily shedding corgi that drools everywhere. https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1mmdaw4/still_not_perfect_but_my_dog_and_i_think_the_mova/

For pets that shed a lot, I prefer the dreame and MOVA robots with the fur compression feature. This means the robot can make the most use of its dustbin volume instead of clogging in the middle with empty spaces on the side (a common issue with the older dreame/mova model’s dustbin and roborock models with spinning mops so not all of the advertised dustbin volume is used) MOVA sent me their v50 in exchange for creating content on Reddit. I was able to verify that the fur compression feature works with a heavily shedding long haired corgi. I’m not so much a fan of the not very long battery life but the fact it could cope with so much dog fur in one much quieter go that would have needed my old robot to clean twice a day makes up for it. https://preview.redd.it/73eiwe0w31gf1.png?width=2882&format=png&auto=webp&s=6c6145385dbcc363162680eb93cc7a67a12d9b77

If you live in a humid area like Texas or Florida, the dustbin and dustbag drying which prevents little creepy crawlies (which I thought were dust mites), gross microorganisms, and mold from growing is especially helpful! The only other robots with this feature are Narwal robots but they don’t do as well as MOVA when it comes to vacuuming. My old one would have dust mites spawning around the base station within a day simply because of how humid it is here at 86% if I don’t use chlorine dioxide sticks but it’s been a week with the MOVA V50 ultra and no dust mites. I was able to measure that the dustbag drying reaches 140°F/60°C and the dustbin was able to reach 122°F/50°C. 140°F/60°C is more than enough to kill dust mites and most microorganisms, especially since it’ll stay like that for 3 hours. This and the duosolution tank for stinky pets is the main reason I’d recommend the MOVA V50 over the dreame l50 and x50 ultra

From what I’ve seen, no dust mites in or around my base station. The dustbin and dustbag drying stays at this temp for 3 hours! I’ve seen people post about creepy crawlies growing in their dust bags (eek!) so this is rather helpful.

I think the dustbin and dustbag drying should help with this. I measured the dustbag drying in a 2/3rds full dustbag full of fur (which I took from my old one) and the new one. Dreame officially claims 50°C which is a claim I found to net in both the dustbin and the dustbag (stuffed a probe into the fur in the dustbag, put it back in and connected it to my thermometer).

Thanks for letting me know! I really didn’t know about this so I’ll test the dustbin and dustbag drying again at least 3 weeks after I post my first impressions of the MOVA v50.

I’d look at robots that can stop vacuuming, lift the main and side brush and just mop when they detect a liquid spill. The Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track and the MOVA Z50 Ultra will be the closest robot to a steam mop as they use roller mops. There’s also the Narwal flow but no word on its release yet. Alternatively, there are robots with spinning mops that can do this after recognizing a liquid mess like Dreame’s L/X40 ultra and newer; roborock Saros models and the Curv X; the MOVA P10 Ultra/Pro Ultra, the P50 Ultra/Pro Ultra, and the V50 Ultra; and Narwal’s freo Z Ultra. Out of all of them, I’d recommend the MOVA V50 Ultra as it can mop with detergent and choose if it uses a pet odor neutralizing detergent when cleaning up after your dog or a regular one for general maintenance. Other roller mop models like the eufy S1 Pro, the eufy E25/E28, and the ecovacs X8 and X9 cannot mop up liquid spills without the vacuuming brushes smearing it.

I also think the MOVA V50 is a good choice that is better than the X50, especially for those with pets. MOVA sent me the MOVA V50 ultra in exchange review and post about but these views are my own. I wrote a pretty honest review about how it framed with my long haired corgi that we think is secretly part alien since he’s much bigger than a standard corgi. Will update the review after 3 months to see how self cleaning does. https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1mmdaw4/still_not_perfect_but_my_dog_and_i_think_the_mova/ Labor Day sales should net you the best prices~~~

Obstacle avoidance and toy detection: MOVA Z50 Ultra and V50 ultra For hard floors, the mop will help remove any embedded dust so vacuuming performance is equal on hard floors unless you want to look with a microscope. For carpets: i think ecovacs X9 is better at vacuuming fine dust > MOVA v50 > MOVA z50. For hair, they’ll all do well. Mopping performance: MOVA Z50 ultra > ecovacs x9 pro omni > MOVA v50 ultra Maintenance and self cleaning from easiest to hardest: MOVA v50 ultra > MOVA z50 ultra > ecovacs x9 pro omni. Even though both MOVA z50 and ecovacs X9 have roller mops, the MOVA z50 ultra mop compartment is much easier to clean as the part that rotates the mop is completely removable allowing for better access to clean whereas the ecovacs x9 has a cylinder that rotates the mop and cannot be in contact with water and also cannot be removed. Only the MOVA z50 will make some attempt to clean the onboard dirty water tank which generally works better at keeping itself clean than the ecovacs. MOVA v50 uses spinning mops so an onboard water tank is not needed.

Overall convenience: both MOVA v50 and z50 have much better navigation because it has a lidar tower to see 360° whereas the ecovacs x9 only has an embedded lidar to see about 110-120°. The ecovacs app still hasn’t fixed its room boundary issue. Other robot vacuum apps don’t have this issue. For some strange reason, the x9 doesn’t allow you make it mop only. It only lets you vacuum first then mop. Other robot vacuum combo brands allow for this with their newer models.

I think your wife will appreciate the more curved design of the MOVA V50’s base station. https://preview.redd.it/u17nt8fy8gaf1.jpeg?width=650&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9961fd7389de4c8e9233e57ce014fdf812de891d

Also, I haven’t found the ecovacs x9 pro omni in white :( https://www.ecovacs.com/us/deebot-robotic-vacuum-cleaner/deebot-x9-pro-omni

MOVA reached out to me on Reddit about a Reddit collaboration project and I was honestly only expecting them to tell me more about their new robots but to my surprise they sent me a new robot to review and post on Reddit. I’ve made a review of the V50. Other than not as great battery life and the glossy finish on the robot being a fingerprint magnet, I do like it a lot despite having my reservations about it. They’ve just sent me their Z60 Ultra Roller Complete and will start my review on it.

The dreame X50 ultra, L50 Ultra (not the L50 Pro ultra), MOVA V50 ultra, and the MOVA P50S Ultra (not the P50 Pro ultra) should definitely cross this with no issues. Most dreame/MOVA robots, even without special threshold crossing abilities, have pretty good threshold crossing abilities. You could also look at the Dreame L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra or the L50 Pro Ultra with the EasyLeap additional pair of wheels that are made to climb thresholds like this (they’re shaped like a windmill or shuriken to better grip onto ledges). The roborock models with the Adaptlift feature should be able to cross this just fine. Other robots can cross a threshold of 2cm with no issues but that assumes the thresholds are smooth with no grooves. No clue about them crossing this kind of threshold though.

https://youtu.be/fXF0zRDCixw? I don’t think the MOVA v50 will vacuum fine dust from carpets as well as your roborock s8, but will partially vacuum better than the Saros 10R. For me the main concern is fur so I’m pretty happy with how it gets rid of the embedded fur in my carpet.

I definitely think the Mova. I have the pecan Pro ultra and love it so much. However, the mopping could be better for dried on stains. I see the Mova V50 mops with warm water and solution whereas the P10 ultra uses room temperature water with no solution. The solution is only used to clean the mount pads on the P10 ultra. I'm guessing that v50 does a better job for those reasons.

I was waffling between the mova v50 and the p10 pro. I ended up splurging on the mova v50 because of just a dad’s last minute recommendation. Also my hairs are always getting caught up in brushes and this supposedly solves the problem. We shall see how it is!

Vacuuming: Mova V50 > Mova Z60 > eufy E25 or E28 or Narwal Flow > Mova Z50 > Ecovacs Deebot X8 or T80 / Yeedi S14 > Ecovacs Deebot X9. Mopping: Mova Z60 or Ecovacs Deebot X8, X9, or T80 / Yeedi S14 > Mova Z50 > eufy E25 or E28 > Narwal Flow > Mova V50.

Mova is the sister brand of dreame. Their object avoidance is far better than Roborock's. Only slightly worse vacuum performance but it makes up for it since you can reliably run it on a schedule without prepping your house.

Is the broken wheel issue fixed? Lol. Also, how's the navigation? I have a V50 and it has some navigation issues that I'm in contact with Mova about.

I've made several posts and he said sounded like a Software issue? It does this pattern when I use the standard custom clean, and it does this in this particular place when there is nothing different there the floor is the same as the rest and it will detect other parts of the floor here recently as large particles when it's just shiny vinyl from the mopping. But it will get in this area right here and literally dance around for 20 minutes when it's in the standard pattern and custom clean. I ran it in a quick mode earlier and it seemed to function a little bit better but I'll have to do more testing. But it also detects my large rug in the living room areas as chords. https://preview.redd.it/vv3v5gw31hmf1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1cd647c82b9859b8d546810218dbe835e46cda21 I've made a couple post about this, I can't post all the pictures in this comment so I'm not going to flood this thread with pictures but yeah, I've cleaned the sensors religiously I've restarted the device, I remapped the house, nothing helps. It's also been skipping rooms when I do a room clean it'll Skip one, and two, and go to three for some reason.

When it marks it, I do, but as you can see from the pictures it doesn't identify anything there it just goes in circles. Customer service is trying to tell me it appears to be a stuck wheel but it's ironic that it does it only in this specific spot and then for the majority of the rest of the house it doesn't do this. It's also been identifying patterns in my carpet as cables and not cleaning 25% of my carpet in the living room because of this. They're wanting to send me a replacement but honestly I'm not sure. They said the carpet issue is a software problem and that if the second robot does it they would want my cooperation and helping them figure it out. I think all the issues are software problem. The wheels do not seem stuck and if that was the case it's a huge coincidence that it does it only in this particular spot and the rest of the corridor doesn't do it.

Yeah I'm waiting for them to reply. I just want to make sure, since I got this through amazon, that if I get the replacement and it still messes up I still have the opportunity for a full refund. I honestly am wondering if the P10 ultra pro may have better luck with it and better navigation. I don't know - this whole robot vacuum journey has been a bit of a headache starting with the x9 omnipro. However, we shall see.

Correct, I'm referring to the V50 - I am also getting this weird pattern in the same part of my floor. I just made a post to see if anyone can help - irritating. I have disabled the Large Particle and Stain detection and it still does it. Even changed the floor type and pattern to match mine and the same direction. Nothing special in this area, no windows, mirrors, etc. I'm like day 3 into using it, and really considering sending it back unless this can be resolved. All of the search and research into these vacuums is exhausting, as I tend to become a bit neurotic, lol. https://preview.redd.it/kbrsfdecqflf1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18cd6bae44472b3464abd4f9df4f158922097dd3

Yeah, this is custom mode, not CleanGenius. I may retry to map my house tomorrow and see? I just hate to do that because I've set the map up the way I like it but I don't know I'm going to give it a couple more runs to see.

My Mova v50 ai obstacle avoidance is completely broken. I'm on the lastest firmware and app and yes I did reset it to factory after firmware update. At best it miss detects things, and at worst it completely lets lost, doing the same circuit in a room and goind completely crazy. Whith this option off it works ok. For a 1200€ gadget i expected more. Thinking on returning it.

Mova v50. I’m quite happy with it.

Glad I took what felt like a risk on this at the time

Mine avoids things like a champ

Yeah seems, weird. My v50 avoids like a pro

I’ve been happy with mine so far. Have about 30 hours on it

Mova has been great. Not sure what the extra $500 would have gotten me

I have a mova, how do I see this battery drain? I can't tell

Sounds like you got a dud. Mine has zero of those problems.

I have a mova v50. You can make custom shortcuts where you can define steps for rooms or zone cleaning that you can chain together. So that should work how you’re describing. Mova and dreame are basically the same company so I’d assume dreame can do the same.

I ended up with mova v50 and like it so far

Mova v50 can handle them too

I think the best vacuum for the money on that list is the Mova V50 Ultra. I've been happy with all my Mova products and the V50 is an amazing machine!

I have the Mova V50 and vacuums and mops daily. I set it to go to work at 11 PM and wake up to freshly mop floors every morning. Alternatively, I have it vacuum and mop my bedroom at six every morning after I leave for work.

I have a Mova (Dreame sub brand) v50 that can be had for around ~$1000 on sale. It's been amazing since it arrived and has kept up with 2 large dogs and 3 cats in the house. I have mostly tile with quite a few area rugs and it handles both very well. I have yet to have an incident where it hasn't avoided something it should have. It vacuums hair very well and mops well enough that I don't feel like I need to redo its work. It has a second mopping solution tank specifically for pets and Matter support is coming in an upcoming update.

I have both the p10pu and the v50. If you compare the two bots on a strictly cost to performance basis, then I don’t think you can beat the P10pu. The exceptions would be if you really valued something only the v50 could do like lowering lidar, climbing thresholds, etc. In other words, the v50 costs 100% more but only mops/vacuums 30 to 40% better, if that. So, diminishing returns. With that being said, the only thing I don’t like about the v50 is the battery drain but I just schedule around it.

I returned mine due to this issue. I do feel like this started happening after it updated to 2501 firmware.

I had a lot of problems with ecovacs , so i changed with mova v50 and i'm going pretty well with that.

Roborock S10 (Saros 10r) – more mature ecosystem, great app, strong vac. Doesn’t have hot mop washing like Dreame/Mova. Service/support tends to be better established. Dreame X50 Ultra – full flagship. ProLeap legs (6 cm), dual roller, hot mop wash, strong suction. Best for mixed floors and heavier mess. Parts are easy enough to find now but price is higher. Some users love it, some get quirks and support can be hit or miss depending on region. Mova V50 Ultra – basically Dreame tech under a different name. Same hardware family, sometimes priced lower. Software updates come slower, but performance is close to X50. Ecovacs X9 Pro – strong mopping, but suction and obstacle avoidance are behind Dreame/X50. Their newer X2/X1 lines are better, so X9 Pro feels a bit dated now. If you were happy with your S7 and just want “next level,” the X50 Ultra gives you the most upgrade in features (threshold climbing, mop care, suction). The S10 is a safer bet if you want stability and support.

The mapping on this robot is a desastre. We ended sending it back. It does clean very well but what does it help if it can’t find its way in your house and if it can’t manage to reinstall mops itself time after time again. This is the worst ghostmapper we have tried so far and we really want to warn others about it. If you decide to try buy from Amazon and use your 30 day return window. We switched for a roborock curv and even though it probably cleans a bit less it navigates everything and runs without any challenges what so ever - in the end that’s really an importantcc part to think about. We don’t buy robots to nanny them all the time.

I just got the MOVA V50 last week as well and noticed the same thing about it being a little gun shy/inconsistent with going under certain areas with retractable LIDAR. I have a pair of chinchillas and the clearance under their cage is a hair under 4". I noticed it would sometimes go under a little bit but not all the way (and sometimes just avoid it all together), so I used the remote control function and it could fit under the cage, but I didn't realize the bottom shelf sags a little bit in the middle, which caused the top cover to be scratched slightly. I have a couple of printer carts where the clearance is about 4" just to get under it, but the actual ceiling is maybe 4.5"-5" once you get under that and it will not go under that on it's own even though it can fit under it. There is a setting in Auto Lifting LDS that is still in beta where you can tell it to basically be less sensitive to that height clearance, but it also says may cause scratches. Haven't tried it myself, since I don't want to make those scratches worse.

I got the MOVA V50 for $950 (USD) during Prime day last month, so you should be able to get it on sale for under a thousand, if you decide it's the one you want and are willing to wait a little for another sale. You can use a site like CamelCamelCamel to see the price history of any Amazon item to see if it's worth waiting for a sale or not.

Mova P50 but not for $1000. I think the P50 and V50 are very close in what they do, but some of their consumables are different. I.e dual solutions for mop settings on the V50, different brush rollers, etc

Happy with my purchase of the MOVA V50. My floors are super clean :)

I’m not in the UK, in Australia. I bought the MOVA v50 yesterday and I’m so happy with it. It’s way over priced though, as most are. I paid $2599 AUD. I did a lot of research and was either The MOVA or Dreame.

I just wrote a super detailed post on this topic you can check my profile for the full thing but TL;DR >Real-time rollers/tracks look great in ads, but that’s mostly marketing theater. >For daily use, spinning pads are more than enough to maintain a base level of clean. >Tracks/rollers use more way more water, are louder, and need more maintenance. >Unless you’re constantly dealing with wet messes, they’re overkill. >Spinning pads remain the most practical choice for most homes Also not sure where you're seeing positive mentions about roomba, but avoid them entirely. Yeedi is a sub brand of ecovacs - its their budget line. They have some great value robots their but the value king robot right now is the Mova P10 Pro Ultra (not available in the eu) Eufy is fine but you wont find a lot of their products at the top of any rankings lists and their rolling mops have issues with the dirty water tank leaking. YMMV Right now id say Roborock, Dreame, Narwal and Mova are the best brands to choose from at this current moment. Knowing your region and budget would help with a recommendation. If you want a mopping first robot the Narwal flow at $1099 (track mop) is looking really nice. Probably the best mopper you can get at the moment. Only downside is that thing chugs water. Ecovacs robots have really good mopping scores as well but its hard to recommend them because they seem to have weird issues with the app and getting them to work right. If you can figure that out they are a good option. Besides that The Qrevo S5v is also a really highly rated mopper Best overall robot right now is the Mova V50 pro ultra at $1099

Mova has the longest warranty at 3 years and with your price range the V50 is probably the best option for you. $1099 right now and one of the best vacuums on the market with the longest warranty

Lots of complaints about Ecovacs. Mainly with how many problems it’s gives users trying to set it up and get it working. Seems like they are good robots with a lot of problems on the app side of things that make it hard to recommend. I’d suggest looking at the Mova V50 which is cheaper than the X8 pro Omni and higher rated plus much easier to set up and use

Yes the Mova one. Of the flagships it’s the best right now I’d say. That, or the X50. Narwal flow looks enticing but you can’t really trust the English reviews out right now. Everyone that has one in NA was sent it for free to review I’d avoid Ecovacs and Saros10r right now

In general, the Dreame X50 and MOVA V50 work reliably out of the box (though they still have flaws). By contrast, the Ecovacs X9 Pro Omni does clean carpets better (per Frickhelm’s testing) than Dreame/MOVA models, but it requires much more user intervention to get working smoothly. That extra hassle makes me less inclined to recommend it. Dreame/MOVA also have an advantage when it comes to navigation: they’re less likely to get stuck or miss obstacles, whereas Ecovacs still struggles here—meaning you’ll spend less time rescuing the robot. VacuumWars has had make several follow up videos about the X8 Omni because of its persistent operation issues and Just A Dad reviews has basically cast of the entire line up because it gives users so many problems.

I wouldn’t recommend the Saros models, since they don’t perform as well on carpets compared to older Roborock flagships like the S8 MaxV Ultra or Qrevo models with dual rubber brushes (e.g. Qrevo Master or Qrevo Slim). In general, the Dreame X50 and MOVA V50 work reliably out of the box (though they still have flaws). By contrast, the Ecovacs X9 Pro Omni does clean carpets better (per Frickhelm’s and vacuum wars testing) than Dreame/MOVA models, but it requires much more user intervention to get working smoothly. That extra hassle makes me less inclined to recommend it. Dreame/MOVA also have an advantage when it comes to navigation: they’re less likely to get stuck or miss obstacles, whereas Ecovacs still struggles here—meaning you’ll spend less time rescuing the robot. Buying advice: • If the X50 is the cheapest option (sometimes the MOVA V50 is cheaper depending on where you ), go for it—just buy from a reputable retailer so returns are easy if something goes wrong. • If the MOVA V50 and X50 are the same price, pick the V50 since it’s basically an upgraded X50.

Unfortunately, the P10 Pro Ultra isn’t available in the EU right now — which is a shame, because it’s currently the best value in the industry. For North America and the EU, I think the V50 is the best vacuum you can get at the moment. If it’s in your budget, I’d grab that one. Every vacuum has its downsides, but try not to overthink them. Most “negatives” only show up when you compare models side by side. In real-world use, you’ll be extremely happy with your purchase and entirely satisfied with its navigation and obstacle avoidance, both of which will improve over time especially with OTA updates. When the X50 came out it had the same "negatives" that were eventually fix with an OTA update. As long as you know the vacuum you are getting has the hardware (lidar + RGB cam) the navigation and obstacle avoidance will all improve with updates.

The Narwal Flow has been out in asia for a long time. Use google translate in chrome browser here: https://blog.naver.com/roboticsnugget/223895959529 part.1 https://blog.naver.com/roboticsnugget/223897327563 part.2 This was really helpful in depth review comparing it to the Dreame X50. There's just no way any part of a cat is getting sucked up into any of these vacuums. They arent that strong or big enough. Cats and people are very easy for these machines to recognize. They're big compared to the things they struggle with, like cords. You dont need to worry about this. Beyond that though my cat just ignores and runs away when it gets close anyways The Narwal notoriously uses a ton of water, so if you dont want to want to be refilling constantly then you might choose something different. I dont know if you're dead set on this price range but right now you can get the Mova V50 cheaper than than the Narwal flow with code USLIVEONLY50 for $50 off through movas website. It has Lidar+RGB and its the better vacuum of the 2 unless you're dead set on a rolling mop. and Mova vacuums do specifically have pet recognition which is fun. It does recognize pets, but since it has a camera, it records a .gif of your pet interacting with it and sends it to your phone lol I use a Mova P10 Pro Ultra in 1950 square feet, half my house every day and I need to replace the water once a week. Your house is smaller, so you might need to refill less depending on how much you mop

The V50 is the choice out of this lineup and it's not close imo. It's probably the best robot out at the moment. Dreame and Mova are the same company by the way If you want the best value robot there is one you haven't listed here which is the Mova P10 Pro ultra which should be the choice over the L40 in that price range. It's probably the best bang for your buck vacuum on the market.

If you’re deciding between these, I’d skip the Eufy S1 Pro. A few reasons: The S2 is coming out soon The dirty water tank tends to leak It’s over a year old, and there are better/cheaper options now The Narwhal Flow looks great, but it has some flaws if edge cleaning matters to you. Since they didn’t go with a swing-out brush, the design tends to fling dirt around instead of pulling it in (check Jamie Andrews’ recent video on this). It especially pushes dirt behind the vacuum, where it doesn’t get picked up again. On top of that, track and roller mops (even if they extend) just aren’t great at edge cleaning. If edge cleaning is a priority, I’d look at the Mova P50 or V50. Swing-out mop pads + brush arms will always beat extending tracks/rollers here. P50 → Strong value at ~$600, but front wheel issues are common. If you get a good unit, it’s fantastic for the price. If you get a bad one, you’ll be stuck dealing with the wheel. If oyu choose this one then make sure you order from amazon since they will take your return with no questions asked V50 → $1,099, more expensive but also the best overall vacuum right now, def top 2. So bottom line: Skip the S1 Pro. Narwhal Flow = great, but poor edge cleaning. If edge cleaning is important → P50 (better value but risky) or V50 (expensive but less manufacturing defects). Hope that helps!

Mova v50 or Dreame L50

> I'm also really interested in the new Narwal. I love that it will keep mopping until it detects the water runs clean when being rinsed off. Dreame and Mova have dirty water sensors in a lot of their robots as well and they will reclean with their “clean genius” setting if they detect overly dirty water. This feature is present in many mid range options so don’t feel like you need to shell out $1099 for that feature. Would be helpful if you gave your region and your budget. If you’re in the U.S. I’d recommend looking at the Mova P10 Pro ultra probably the best bang for your buck in the entire industry at the moment. At the price the L40 ultra is going for I’d recommend it over the entire L40s lineup. The X series is obviously a tier above all those other ones you listed. If you plan on spending $1000+ on your robot then I’d recommend the Mova v50 over the Dreame X50 and X40. It’s about $300 cheaper than the X50 and it’s better. And better than the X40 for like $70 more. The narwal flow could be great but I’d wait a bit for more reviews to come out. Everything you see on YouTube was sponsored and paid. Anyone in the U.S. with that vacuum was given it for free so not sure really how good it is at the moment. Seems promising so far looking at the Asia reviews, just still not sure it’s the better buy than the V50 at this point in time since they are the same price. Keep in mind with the narwal flow that thing chugs water. Especially when you let it keep recleaning over and over. So if you want a lower maintenance robot you might look else where

You can get the Mova v50 for the same price as the L50 and its better than the X50 More suction and the upgraded threshold feature for $1099

They're Chinese, so you wait 12 hours to get a broken English response. My most recent service took almost 5 days of back and forth until they issued a return label for warranty work. I didn't find it too bad I did tell Mova that the v50 drains battery. That the first room it cleaned with zero carpet it would drain 20%, and the next room with mainly carpet it only drained 4%.. they responded three times "robot will drain more battery over carpet". I'd correct them but they never understood. I just ended up returning the v50 for that and a couple other reasons.

Yeah, return it if you're within the return window. The v50 is so smart that it's dumb. This and other factors is why I returned mine.

I think at the end you're talking about the v50 right? I had mine for 28 days before I called quits and returned it, all the quirks just started adding up. Maybe they will release a firmware update that will fix all the issues and I will regret returning mine. I just couldn't justify the performance increase vs the quirks and $1k+ price tag.

Unfortunately I have no idea buddy, except going back to my original point.. they tried to make this thing so smart that it's actually stupid. Maybe try running it without CleanGenius? I'm just guessing here. Actually, I bet if you contact Mova, the response from support will also sound like they're guessing.

You guys sound like paid advertisements. The V50 is not bad, vacuums and mops well, object avoidance also works well most of the time. But navigation, cleaning time and battery life are below average. Hopefully they'll fix that in future firmware updates.

Is recommend to wait a few days as some new models from narwal and dreame are coming out, keep an eye on the narwal flow as it should be promising. But if you don’t care to wait the Mova v50 is really good aswell as the roborock saros 10r

For what its worth I just bought a Mova V50 after waffling for far too long. I've had 3 full runs so far and I really like it. Really quiet too. Im used to my old jet engine of a Roomba though.

It’s pretty good. I have kids and two dogs. I’ve gotten into the habit of walking around and picking stuff up cause my little dog likes to chew my kids toys though. It picks up all my cables really well which is nice.

I give Matic the Platinum award for industrial design. It's friendly, fun and blends in. Most people wouldn't even know it's a vacuum. The Gold goes to Narwal. They've really cared about this since the beginning and their competitors—Roborock Curv and DJI Romo—have copied them which I also really like. Silver goes to Eufy's S1 Pro. My family calls it the "Tron vacuum" because of its translucent plastics and illuminating ring. Bronze goes to the MOVA P and V line. I like the white version and I actually prefer the glossy because it's easier to wipe clean. I'd give the Dyson 360 Nav an honorable mention just because it looks beefy, like it's ready for business and comes in a cool color.