Narwal - Flow

Narwal flow with the automatic refill and drainage system. There is absolutely no equal on the market.

Norwall flow with the auto refill and drainage system. Best mop and vacuum system on the market hands down.

Any idea when Narwal will release an update firmware to address the carpet avoidance? That is literally the only issue that keeps me from purchasing it and I'd like to make the decision before losing out on early bird....but have no interest in the mop/vac if that does not get resolved. Waiting until BF is likely to offer a good price also.

....except (likely) in price - esp next BF or Prime.

Buying the Flow.…. eventually. Mopping and obstacle avoidance are all I want from it. Definitely keeping my Q5pro to vacuum only both carpet and the hardwood/laminate. It will significantly speed up the whole cleaning process using both a Flow for mopping and the Q5pro for vacuum. Best of both worlds.

I don't know if it was recently updated or I just missed it, but I found an option to sweep in the floor direction, and it works on Flow, too.

According to this video, there seems to be a mop-only mode or vacuum then mop mode, which is surprisingly absent from previous roller mop models, so this is good news for those who seek it. I am a little disappointed in the obstacle avoidance performance on carpet. Hopefully an update will improve it.

Consider Narwal. I bought one for each of my two floors and they performed extremely well.

We like our Z Ultra. Brought this one nearly 8 months ago. Narwal always shows a great performance in mopping. And the quietness is a bonus.

If mopping performance and carpet cleaning are your main priorities, I’d go with the Narwal Flow.

nice video. Now split it open with a crowbar and look at the built-in dirty water tank. That is really a design choice I don't understand, an uncleanable dirty water tank... "You don't have to worry about it, it does it on it's own because you cannot reach it". yeaaaaahh, no.

Yep this is sadly true. Dreame, roborock, and Narwal don’t have good customer service compared to Eufy and Xiaomi (if this brand is available). It seems iRobot is also struggling with customer service so I’d recommend buying robots from an authorized retailer like Costco for easier customer service if you need to return it if it’s defective.

Yes I hope they improve it in time for global release though this seems unlikely as they’ve already shipped out preorders in the HK/MO market. I have my eyes on the MOVA Z5 as its mopping is so much better. Wondering how NarWal’s upcoming roller mop robot will do

You need a robot that can at least raise the main and side brushes as you don't want milk to touch the vacuuming compartment at all. The only roller mop models that are capable of this are the MOVA Z50 Ultra and the upcoming Narwal Flow.

What is your purchasing region? I recommend you pair it to your phone then share the robot with your grandparents’ account or log into your account on their phone. You can then set it up for them and put it on a schedule. Roborock’s app ui seems to be the easiest. NarWal’s app also looks pretty easy to use. NarWal’s base station will be the easiest to clean and is easily compatible with a water exchanging module that can be hooked up to your water line. Of course you need to give it a good clean once every few weeks or so. Dreame’s app is simply too overwhelming with all the customization.

The eufy S1 Pro, Narwal flow, and the MOVA Z60 Ultra/Z50 Ultra are much better at wet messes. Ecovacs has been known to suffer from a lot of issues (check Jamie Andrews’ videos about it).

Check how it actually does compared to other robots on the market. Also note ecovacs’ obstacle avoidance, computer vision, and smart cleaning mode is way below offerings at a similar price. As such, I do not recommend it. https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/10688480241?utm_psn=1860391779284684800&utm_id=0 X8, MOVA Z5, and G20S ultra comparison review https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV19tktY2ErP X8 V the MOVA Z5 Pro (should be sold as Z50 Ultra overseas) NarWal’s 002 AI/Flow does have solid reviews on ZhiHu. https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/31381833136?share_code=yWBpg6ve2W1Z&utm_psn=1890845587286497066

Would you like it to extend and wiggle the mops? I think this feature is best for cleaning stains under things like fridges or cleaning along the edges if your dog likes to drool along the edges too (mine does). There are three ways for anti tangling to happen. 1. Combs in the brush compartment. This is the least effective way. Ecovacs uses this method but reviewers have found it does get tangled with long hair. 3i and Eufy also uses this technique and I don’t know what reviewers say. 2. Active cutting of hair when it gets tangled Dreame uses this method. This method relies on the hair first getting tangled and then the hair strands will enter a groove where there is a hidden knife to cut the hair, sending it into the dust box with the vacuum fan’s help. Dreame’s brush is also engineered for the hidden knife to move like a razor after 23 revolutions. In my experience, it’s been stellar at long hair and my long haired corgi’s fur. Hair can get tangled on the sides if you use their old brush cover, they have a new brush cover now to cover the non-brush compartment of the TriCut brush and it works great at preventing any hair from getting to the sides. Midea also utilizes this method in a different way. It has really small razor blades built into the top of the brush compartment and is programmed to vibrate like a shaving razor up there to cut off any hair and the vacuum will bring the hair into the dust box. It seems to work well. The less efficient way I’ve seen this implemented is the base station having a blade cut the hair at the brush. The Mijia M30 Pro does this (stupid 3i Robotix) and it doesn’t work very well. The last way is using the airflow itself to get rid of tangled hair. There are brushes shaped like an archimedes screw with the brush fibers at a certain angle so any tangled hair will move to the narrow end of the brush and the vacuum inlet at the narrow end will suck it into the dust box Narwal does this. Dreame’s new models (currently only in mainland china) do this with two conical brushes, one rubber and one rubber and fiber bristles to suit both carpeted and hard floors. They solve a current problem with this conical shape as the narrower end of the brush will have less to no contact with the ground, reducing its cleaning ability. Dreame hid the narrow end and only the parts where it can have contact with the floor are exposed. Roborock also does this with a twist. Instead of the narrow end being to a side, it uses two brushes where the narrow ends point to each other and any hair will hence go to the middle instead of the side. Both the cutting brush and the conical brush design is great for any long hairs. The dreame cutting brush method is more economical as it isn’t restricted to one model only. If you wouldn’t like to carry your base station up, don’t get the Narwal. Although it has a handle for easier carrying, the lack of an onboard water tank means it can only clean about 5-15 square meters before having to clean its mops again. I also wouldn’t really recommend it as after any robot mop combo with a mop cleaning station makes the mops really wet after cleaning it, which doesn’t seem great for your wood floors. https://www.reddit.com/r/CleaningTips/comments/o011xc/how_do_you_properly_cleanmop_wax_finished_floors/?rdt=59160 Roborock does great too. The Q Revo Master Edge is also very tangle free with the duo divide brush. Best computer vision and related cleaning algorithm would go to Dreame’s X/L40 ultra. It’s smart enough to detect pet areas and give it special attention. Next year’s dreame X50 will have double rollers that are designed to be even better than the current TriCut brush. I heard it doesn’t do so well with much thicker strands that can’t fit into the razor compartment so the airflow approach to de tangling hair seems to be a lot better. I would have recommended the Eufy S1 Pro if it was good at dealing with long hair. It is a very solid robot mop. I also have qualms about the ozone generator in the water tank as I’m worried it could degrade the rubber sealing and leak….

Not impressed. The MOVA Z50 Ultra and the Narwal Flow seem much more promising when it comes to mopping.

Very different: Unlike the Ecovacs/yeedi, the Narwal flow: Mops with 45° water (advertised value) at 12N Advertised Special carpet cleaning mode where cleaning head applies pressure to create a better seal with the carpet for better cleaning Can cross higher thresholds up to 40mm Can lift its main brushes and side brushes so liquid messes will not cross contaminate. Much better object recognition and smart cleaning mode with a much better obstacle avoidance system. Anti-tangling side brushes.

Narwal flow’s release seems to have been delayed due to faults discovered by beta testers. I’d recommend waiting for the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track if you want to wait. Below is a comparison photo testing how the Narwal Flow (top panels) compares with the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track (bottom panels) when cleaning carpet with the optimal carpet settings turned on (cleaning twice in a checkerboard pattern and Narwal flow’s pressurized cleaning head being activated). Dreame’s track type roller mop (which was fine tuned over time with MOVA’s G20, G30, and the Z50 Ultra) also seems to be the leading solution since it can exert 18N of pressure when mopping (the most exerted by a roller mop robot and MOVA Z50 Ultra does the same) and can mop with warm water thanks to an onboard water heater heating it up to 45°C (Narwal’s 36°C claim is from the warm water filled at the station). https://preview.redd.it/ej07u60mjk5f1.jpeg?width=1436&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d20f83c2d8b38f54734ef4980fa94c1ff31bde87 Since you live in a home that is rather dusty, I’d check out the dreame L40S Ultra, L40S Pro Ultra, L/X50 Ultra and the MOVA V50 Ultra for the filter self cleaning function when autoemptying. Due to size constraints and the addition of a track type roller mop, the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track uses a different autoempty system and lacks the filter self cleaning function. If there’s a threshold higher than 3cm, I’d recommend the MOVA V50 Ultra, Dreame X50 Ultra, and the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track. If choosing between the MOVA V50 Ultra and the Dreame X50 Ultra, the MOVA V50 Ultra is the better flagship for near-identical models as the vacuuming performance was improved over the x50 Ultra and has the duosolution detergent tank which is well suited for homes needing odors to neutralize since there’s another tank for odor neutralizing detergent. The fact that it can dry the dustbin and dustbag is also a plus for mildew control. The mopping has been improved with tilting mop pads (up to 5°) to automatically adjust to the floor level and can spin up to 260RPM over the X50’s maximum of 180RPM if it detects a liquid or dried on mess. If you want a roller mop robot right now, the eufy E25/E28 or the MOVA Z50 Ultra is a good choice. The MOVA Z50 Ultra will mop more thoroughly though and will know when to clean its mops better with the onboard turbidity sensor facing the mop. If you want to compare the MOVA Z50 Ultra to the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track, the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track should be slightly better for raw mopping performance (only difference is warmer water when mopping), better edge cleaning with an extendable mop (still not as good as spinning mops which is common for roller mop robots with an extending mop), better at antitangling with the double anti tangle brushes (both models’ mop scrapers are comb shaped to help with any potential tangles and I haven’t seen this on roller mop robots from other brands), much better self cleaning (100°C mop cleaning with a PTC plate, dustbin and dustbag drying, and the duosolution tank), better vacuuming, much better obstacle avoidance from the binocular RGB cameras that avoids obstacles without needing to backtrack like all other Dreame and MOVA models and it seems Dreame’s obstacle avoidance is now on par with the Narwal Freo z based on Chinese KOL reviews, and much better obstacle climbing with the ProLeap system .

Roborock isn’t as good as other brands when it comes to poop avoidance. Dreame, Eufy S1 pro, and Narwal are much better at this. MOVA is a subbrand of dreame. Narwhal Freo Z ultra Narwal flow should be better for carpets though but the lack of any hair tangle measures on the mop is an issue considering how the MOVA Z50 Ultra which mops great and works great with long hair with similar poop avoidance performance has combs to help with hair tangles on the mop. Eufy also doesn’t have very good carpet cleaning and as good edge cleaning compared to the previous two An all rounder should be the dreame X50 Ultra for fur compression if there are heavy shedders or the dreame x40 ultra/ MOVA P10 Pro Ultra if the main issue is mainly just long hair.

For really really good mopping, go for the MOVA Z50 Ultra or the Narwal Flow. For a good all rounder, the x40 ultra or the x50 ultra.

How tall is the piece of transition? For a single one up to 30mm, the roborock models with the AdaptiLift chassis (the most expensive QRevo Curv/Edge and the Saros line). Anything higher up to 4.2cm, if a threshold is less than 9cm long (5.2cm if it is at least 9cm long), will need the Dreame X50 Ultra or any equivalent MOVA model (V50 Ultra). I am aware that Dreame's L/X50 Ultra and any model (such as MOVA's V50 Ultra or the rare UK-only Dreame L40s Pro Ultra) that uses dual conical brushes has a *live fur compression* feature (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOOU0uJsVdU), which helps mitigate the issue of pet fur clogging the dustbin, even though the space isn't fully utilized. I saw it in action, and I think it lives up to its claim. It also cleans its filter when auto-emptying. This should be helpful for homes with heavy shedders such as yours\~ For paw prints, I think a robot that can identify messes like this and act accordingly would be important too. Dreame and Narwal do well with this if you turn on certain functions, such as their smart cleaning mode and intelligent mess detection.

This is the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track or the Narwal Flow. It can extend the mop but won’t be able to clean into corners as well as a spinning mop. It’s just a tradeoff.

After daily vacuuming then mopping, my hardwood floors became notably softer and had a shine. I’d recommend robots with roller mops or spinning mops. For roller mop robots, I’d recommend the eufy S1 (Pro), eufy E25/E28, MOVA Z50 Ultra, and the Narwal Flow. All of these robots except for the eufy E25/E28 will have good obstacle avoidance. For spinning mop robots, I’d recommend dreame/MOVA robots with the AceClean/jetspray dryboard, the Narwal Freo line with an all in one base station, the roborock qrevo line. If obstacle avoidance is important, I’d consider the Dreame L40S Pro Ultra, L/X50 Ultra and the Narwal Z/Z10 Ultra.

Mopping: Dreame Aqua 10 Pro track ≈ MOVA Z50 Ultra > Narwal flow (tentatively) >≈ eufy E25/E28 > eufy S1 Pro ≈ ecovacs x8/x9/t80

The MOVA will be better at vacuuming and the Narwal will have the best smart cleaning mode and mopping but vacuuming isn’t as good as the MOVA and tanks need to be refilled more often.

I’d look at robot vacuum mop combos with a roller mop as it’ll clean itself as it mops. Right now there’s the MOVA z60 and the Narwal flow with a vacuum first then mop mode. No robots have a self cleaning brush system but they have antitangle main brushes.

1. It really depends on your purchasing region. Costco is a popular choice given its generous return policy but choices are rather limited compared to buying from Amazon which has an easy return policy within 30 days. For other purchasing regions, buying from a reputable retailer with a good return policy and an optional protection plan would be good. In Australia, I heard Harvey Norman is nicer with returns compared to JB HIFI. 2. The robots with the best self cleaning will be Dreame’s L/X50 Ultra/L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and MOVA’s V50 Ultra P50S Ultra > MOVA’s P50 Ultra/ Pro Ultra > Roborock’s models that have spinning mops with the Multifunctional Dock 3.0 (roborock models with a vibrating mop have a washboard that is more difficult to clean as you can’t remove it) ≈ Narwal Freo models (completely detachable base) > Dreame’s models with the mop-driven wiper mop washboard (cleaning the wiper washboard is rather difficult since there’s too many nooks and crannies and you’d still have to get down to clean the areas the wipers can’t reach) > other combo robots with an all in one base station As for combo robots with roller mops and have an all in one base station, the washboard is generally flat with a few grooves so it’s pretty easy to clean. I believe most of their washboards are removable. However, it’ll require more cleaning in the mop compartment and dirty water tank. Most roller mop models have an annoying cylindrical component which drives the roller mop like an upright wet dry vacuum but you can’t remove or move it to give it a deeper clean even if gunk is stuck on it. The only combos that are close to the level of self cleaning for spinning mop models are Dreame’s Aqua 10 Pro track, the MOVA Z50 Ultra, and the Narwal Flow since both have self-cleaning mechanisms that are made to also clean the dirty water tank and the mop compartment while also having a very easy to clean mop compartment since the thing that moves the mops is also completely removable. If you want to support a US startup, you could look at the Matic since it’s a vacuum and mop robot but taking care of it looks rather easy since it lacks a base station. The maintenance involved is replacing the bag, refilling the water with a cleaning solution of choice, occasionally cleaning the roller mop, the roller mop filter, cleaning the brush roller and de clogging the mop tubes if needed.

The dustbin is soooooooo gross mainly because it seems that the reviewer only ran the robot to vacuum and mop at the same time which made most of the liquid spills actually get sucked up into the dustbin so some doesn’t even have a chance of actually being mopped.

I mainly wanted to see the robot not vacuum up the mess and basically smear it with the main and side brushes.

The Narwal flow is advertised to be able to do this and mop backwards. Give the robot a fairer go!

I think calling it a wet-dry vacuum (which really should be called a wet dry mopping machine) is too much of an exaggeration. It won’t be able to suck up more complex solid and liquid messes that wet dry mopping machines are capable of.

Both should be fine with LVP as they shouldn’t leave too much water. > What are the added benefits? Compared to the flow, the MOVA z60 and the Dreame Aqua 10 roller (feature wise): Duosolution tank, fur compression (a great feature for homes with heavily shedding pets), the mop fluffing wheel to fluff the fibers of the mop as it mops, likely better side brush extension algorithm, ProLeap system, and a removable dirty water tank (flow’s cannot be removed by an average user), less consumables (flow has a disposable dustbin part and a disposable mop washboard filter which I find wasteful), bigger dustbag at 3.2L, and dustbin and dustbag drying (which was present on the Narwal Freo Z ultra but not on the flow?). The ultra roller should have smoother obstacle avoidance like the flow (not needing to back up to gauge distance) as it has binocular RGB cameras instead of just one and a higher ProLeap (4.8cm for a single one and 4.5+3.5cm for tiered thresholds). Tradeoffs compared to the flow: No removable mop washboard. No reviews of the MOVA z60, the Dreame Aqua 10 roller and the ultra roller have come out yet so I cannot recommend them for now.

You literally need to disassemble the robot to access the dirty water tank.

Narwal flow. Ungodly expensive (comparable in price to your listed). But eats cockatiel poop with no residue on the mop after the self clean. I’m going to make a post on this at some point. The problems with the ones you listed is that they use two spinny circle pads to mop—in other words, you first smear the cockatiel “gifts” onto the mop pads and then the poopy mop then smears it everywhere else. Look into the mechanism for the narwal flow mop if interested. Of course, if you are only using the vacuum functions and not for de-pooping, then this is not relevant.

I posted a video of it cleaning up a small cockatoo poop. Can’t link it. Should be first post on my profile

Personally, I think tank-like mop tracks (like on the Narwal Flow) do a better job. They have more contact with the floor, so they clean more thoroughly, and they can self-clean in real time while scrubbing.

Has there been any indication when Dreame will come out with specs on their Ultra Roller? As more info continues to come out, the more confidence I have with my Narwal Flow purchase. I don't think it will be the perfect machine, but the overall collective reviews have it as a generational leap forward in mopping, and more than serviceable in vacuuming. My house is mostly hard floor, so it seems great. I just wish it had more field of view on the laser and they didn't screw their possible customers on the autofill base. The only thing that could give me pause is the Ultra Roller, but I've still seen nothing about it which lends me to believe they announced it on 8/6 only because the Flow was coming out the next day. Rush to market is never a good engineering strategy. Lack of information confirms that rush. The Pro Track could have been an attention contender which was the easy button, but Dreame decided either that was too expensive or too complex for the American market. Either reason is poor.

You are right. I've been waiting since January for the Flow. I'm not happy with how Narwal did this rollout with their autofill, but the robot still looks like it is meeting most of the hype, though nothing is definite without more real world use. The Pro Track could have swayed me, but you're right the roller version, whatever it looks like, probably won't be as effective as the track version.

No, it is obviously the better option for the Flow. Because of the cleaning cycle of the mop at the base station, the Flow uses a lot of water. It looks like the cleaning cycle is very effective at keeping the mop track clean, which is great. But, if you have the standard station like me, you'll have to fill up and empty the tanks often. Your version is much more seamless. The problem is Narwal knows it, so they are charging a lot more for your version during the pre-order period, and you don't get the benefit of the extended warranty or accessory grant. You are getting the better version because you can do multiple cleanings without intervening at all with the unit.

You are right that a person should wait if they are in no rush. I don't have a desperate need to upgrade my 6-year-old Roombas, but there has been considerable testing over the last several months by Betas with testimonials. The YouTube videos released in the last several weeks are mostly biased to some degree, but at least some do show the limitations. Jamie Andrews is very quantitative, and he's had the unit for 3 months. He showed navigation, suction, and corner side broom performances that were less than perfect, but overall, he said it was a solid performer, with mopping being top tier. I was most impressed with the base station cleaning. Someone elsewhere posted a terrific review of the internal dirt tank from a Chinese tester, who had run their version for many months and then took the robot apart to inspect the tank visually, and it looked new. Even if the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track was coming in September, I'm certain Narwal is the right machine for me. Moreover, the longer Dreame remains radio silent on the Aqua 10 Roller, the more evident it becomes that they are not ready to release it, and there are flaws in the Pro Track that prevented them from bringing it to the US.

I ordered the Flow with the Standard Base Station. I had intended to buy the Auto Fill Station, but their pre-order pricing strategy makes no sense to me. It's an extra $400, with no extended warranty and no accessory pack gift. Vacuum Chef yesterday released a video of his Flow experience, and the lack of obstacle avoidance on carpet was concerning. I was considering buying the Aqua 10 Pro Track instead of the Flow, as I figured it would be announced at the 8/6 event. I'd still consider moving from the Flow, as I'm not entirely satisfied with Narwal's rollout strategy and have some reservations about their obstacle avoidance capabilities. But there is very little information about the Aqua 10 Ultra Roller. Has anyone seen any videos or read any reviews beyond just that general Digitch article or that Tom's Guide blurb? Has this even been out in China yet? I'd like to know more about it before 9/1.

I do view that channel too. I'm anxious to see more detailed info on the Aqua line available for 9/1. It's been almost a week since the announcement, and there has been no release of any substantial information to inform a buying decision. Given Narwal's strong pre-order incentive for the standard base station package, it is hard to forego taking advantage of that, given the absence of information from Dreame. I assume there will be more information/videos/specs released before 9/1.

That is true, the spec doesn't tell you everything . If it has the same general structure of the Pro Track, you can make assumptions on performance. But, if there are structural differences, like the absence of a heating coil on board of the Ultra Roller, that is a significant deviation from the somewhat real-world tested Pro Track. I think many people on this feed are similar to me -- I want a machine that is cutting edge in cleaning, but I want to make sure to be as informed as possible before making a very large cash outlay. An uninformed decision can cost money, but so can analysis paralysis. Narwal provided a substantial incentive to adopt the standard base station Flow. If Dreame wants to influence buying decisions, they must provide information that prompts the buyer to consider alternatives. Just announcing something cool will be available on 9/1 does nothing for me. By that date my Flow will have done multiple cleanings on my marble and wood floors.

I am keeping my Flow order. Hopefully I'll have it by this time next week. I expect the navigation to be less efficient than a 360 tower, but that will just mean it takes longer to do a job. The upside far outweighs that issue of longer time commitment per cleaning. I put a lot of stock in Jamie Andrew reviews, and the Flow's LIDAR design was highlighted as a con. But, for the price right now, Narwal seems to give superior mopping with thorough system cleaning at the end of jobs. The obstacle avoidance and AI cleaning seem to continue to be at the top of the industry. Vacuum performance seems to be above average, though it may take multiple passes to capture everything in some circumstances. Whenever the Pro Track comes out, it will be more expensive with less capable AI and a requirement to clean the onboard dirty tank manually. The base station will need to be cleaned periodically, just like the Flow, though unlike the Flow you can't remove the landing dock so cleaning the Dreame dock will be harder. If I have to do more manual maintaintance on the Pro Track, it doesnt matter to me it navigates more efficiently. I'm not in a huge rush to buy something, but even if the Pro Track was coming out tomorrow, I'd stay Flow.

I think a standout feature of the Narwal that differs in real-world performance vs benchmark testing used by vacuum testing channels is that there is no restricted test parameters. So for example the narwal can sense if the area isnt clean yet and go back and clean it. So one pass over a dried stain might not be as good as another robot but if it goes back to finish and leaves a cleaner surface than a single pass during a typical mop session from a different vac, the end result is the narwal will leave the area cleaner. Now I'd perfect the smarts of the narwal paired with the best mopping capability naturally and I think the Narwal Flow will fill that niche but something I realized while doing far too much research on this is that benchmark testing doesnt tell the full story at all. It's like buying a dodge neon with a huge engine vs a porche with a slightly smaller but still big engine. Just a random musing while trying to decompress from too much research into buying a new vac lol

I think a standout feature of the Narwal that differs in real-world performance vs benchmark testing used by vacuum testing channels is that there is no restricted test parameters. So for example the narwal can sense if the area isnt clean yet and go back and clean it. So one pass over a dried stain might not be as good as another robot but if it goes back to finish and leaves a cleaner surface than a single pass during a typical mop session from a different vac, the end result is the narwal will leave the area cleaner. Now I'd perfect the smarts of the narwal paired with the best mopping capability naturally and I think the Narwal Flow will fill that niche but something I realized while doing far too much research on this is that benchmark testing doesnt tell the full story at all. It's like buying a dodge neon with a huge engine vs a porche with a slightly smaller but still big engine. Just a random musing while trying to decompress from too much research into buying a new vac lol

Flow, easy choice. Only improvements over the Z

Well, I've been using Narwal Flow for a little over 3 weeks now, and it's totally been awesome. If mopping is a must-have for you, the roller mop really makes a big difference, way better than the older robots... It's actually the first one I've had that can actually clean the mayo sauce. Also I've heard good things about Ecovacs X9, but as my place is usually kind of messy (thanks to my cat lol), obstacle avoidance is a big deal for me, making me turn toward Narwal. I also love the dustbin of my Flow. But yeah, waiting for Flow to launch has been rough... hope it comes out soon. Maybe late July? 

Your house is absolutely robot-ready. I have bought Narwal Freo Pro since I meet cleaning problem. its 8500 Pa zero-tangle roller devours Husky fluff, LiDAR-plus-camera dodges scattered cat beds. Or you can focus on the latest version Narwal Flow—Don't miss out the revolutionary FlowWash Mopping System.

I’d go straight for the Narwal Flow—its continuous track-style mop is light-years ahead, keeping the pad freshly rinsed with hot water as it moves, so hardwood gleams and carpets stay spotless even after two long-haired dogs and a toddler’s daily chaos.

Maybe you can consider Narwal Flow—22,000 Pa zero-tangle roller, LiDAR-plus-camera that side-steps toys and chargers, and pads that lift on carpet so you can run it while the baby naps; If your budget is not enough, I think you can focus your eyes on Freo Pro that I have bought it and felt appreciate.

UPDATE: bought the Narwal flow with the preorder sale. We shall see. Ships 8/27

Agreed, I personally wouldn't go with Ecovacs either, but still interesting to see how the roller-style tech performs vs spinning mops. My guess is the mopping will be faster on the MOVA and Narwal models due to their larger surface area. It'll be an interesting showdown once those models (+ whatever Eufy is working on) are out!

Narwal Flow (https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/7/24334496/narwal-flow-mopping-robovac-ces-2025) and Mova Z50 Ultra

Early review of Narwal Flow. It’s positive. https://youtu.be/qV5OcVjC1mg?si=6c-_y07i8sfAm-A7

The vacuum brushes don’t lift when it goes over a spill?!

I wouldn’t say it beats Roborock and Dreame for mopping because the side brushes don’t lift when it mops over a spill. The side brushes do not get washed in the dock either so that’s just more manual labor. Also, the side brushes touch the vacuum brushes so if the side brushes touch a ketchup spill, the ketchup will get transferred from the side brush to the vacuum brushes when the vacuum brushes lower down. Then you have to clean that manually as well

Not if it’s recontaminating the cleaned areas with soiled side brushes. And cleaning the soiled brushes that aren’t supposed to be wet in the first place is just more maintenance work and counterintuitive to having a robot do the job for you. The auto refill and drainage system base is also flawed because there’s no way for you to use detergent

This sounds like you just used AI or something here. What do you mean that is the exception and not the rule? Not all roller and track mops actually pick up liquids into the dirty water tank, like the Ecovacs Omni X8 and X9. Just a Dad’s video showed nothing in the dirty water tank which means it was just spreading a mess around, distributing it so evenly, you couldn’t tell with the naked eye. Side brushes not lifting is not a minor concern. Your point in number 3 is a fallacy because you’re disguising your argument by generalizing it into a “spinning mops vs track/roller mops” thing when I’m specifically talking about the Flow. Not to mention the newer Roborock and Dreame robots do not vacuum over spills because they stop and lift the brushes. If you know anything about microbiology and Locard’s Principle you wouldn’t undermine contaminated side brushes as a minor issue. Spill detection doesn’t need to be a safety net and it is not inconsistent. It’s actually more efficient to separate the vacuuming and the mopping instead of having the robot do both at once. So when a robot is mopping, it’s not vacuuming at all. This is when having lifted side brushes are important so it’s not spinning and spreading around wet messes. You’re also wrong about the detergent part and I’m correct. The auto refill and drainage system does not let you add detergent because it does not have a water tank. It directly connects to plumbing. I already asked Narwal customer service about this and they confirmed that the optional upgrade doesn’t let you use detergent so it’s actually a downgrade. You can’t even clean the internal dirty water tank which is another issue. Even the much older robots with roller mops like the SwitchBot S10 from years ago had a removable dirty water tank. Even the iRobot Scooba had a removable water tank. This is such a basic common sense feature. It seems like Narwal just didn’t think this one through.

Your AI actually did not talk specifically about the Narwal and only generalized it to track/roller vs spinning disc mops. If I have to manually put the detergent into the clean water tank, that is more manual labor. Again, any additional manual labor is counterintuitive to automation and having a robot do the job for you. If mopping performance is being discussed, you cannot rule out how it performs when mopping up spills. This is what mopping is for, especially when the review video you posted literally says the Narwal “is really mirroring the performance of wet-dry vacuum.” The Narwal flow does advertise self dirt water tank cleaning, but doesn’t show us how. And if the self cleaning is similar to how well charging docks can self-clean, then that is not going to be effective over time. You really cannot call it self cleaning unless it does the job better or as well as a human cleaning it by hand. When I take the dirty water tank out of the SwitchBot S10, I can at least put it into the mini dishwasher I got just for that and have that clean it for me while I pop in a spare. Show me the Chinese reviewers video of them taking the Narwal Flow apart. Either way, back to my original point, the side brushes are just going to recontaminate the cleaned areas. Lifting brushes during mopping is just common sense and not including it at $1000+ is just not even doing the bare minimum

I’m asking for a removable water tank, not a water tank that I have to manually clean. As per my previous comment, I pop all those into a mini dishwasher that I got on Amazon for about $250 and a clean spare is put into the robot while the dirty one is washed not by me. You don’t know what a real use case is. A real use case is whatever the user uses it for. It’s not like the companies making these products are telling customers not to clean up spills with the robots. You keep saying this and that has been tested, yet I don’t see any of the videos you claim to exist. The side brushes extend beyond the mop. And you still have to clean the side brushes to prevent mold and contamination.

I give Matic the Platinum award for industrial design. It's friendly, fun and blends in. Most people wouldn't even know it's a vacuum. The Gold goes to Narwal. They've really cared about this since the beginning and their competitors—Roborock Curv and DJI Romo—have copied them which I also really like. Silver goes to Eufy's S1 Pro. My family calls it the "Tron vacuum" because of its translucent plastics and illuminating ring. Bronze goes to the MOVA P and V line. I like the white version and I actually prefer the glossy because it's easier to wipe clean. I'd give the Dyson 360 Nav an honorable mention just because it looks beefy, like it's ready for business and comes in a cool color.

I have an inside/outside cat. He mostly ignores the Freo Z Ultra, but when they do come close to each other, it pauses just like any other obstacle. Now, I don't trust it 100% not to suck up a hairball or vomit. That's asking for trouble. My cat doesn't have accidents unless sick. Anyone that has a Eufy S1 Pro or variant knows cleaning out the onboard dirty water reservoir is a PITA. Narwal has decided to keep that reservoir internal and use some new tech/methods to keep it clean. There's a paddle in the base station that keeps the dirty water mixed and easier to suck up and the Chinese reviews that have removed the onboard reservoir after a few months of use, seem to be favorable. Personally, I think you are going to see more and more of this concept as no-one wants to clean an onboard water reservoir. You still have to clean the dirty water tank on the base station. I suspect, like the Freo Z, the Flow will use a ton of water to keep the track-style mop clean and require refilling after every 1 or 2 uses. Of my robots, the Narwal maintains the cleanest base station and mop pads. That's their trademark (because using lots of water to wash works!) and I suspect the Flow will continue that trend.

There's no way the Flow or Aqua leaves more water on the floor than an actual mop. The track-style mop pad or roller just doesn't hold as much water as a regular kitchen mop and their onboard water tanks are relatively small. The point of LVP is it's durable and waterproof. If you had actual hardwood, I would understand the concern but not LVP. If your LVP was installed correctly, you shouldn't have an issue.

You can turn off the hot water washing feature on the Freo Z. So, I expect you'll be able to on the Flow, if you are concerned but it doesn't have an onboard heater. That water may come out warm, but by the time it fills the internal tank up, gets the track mop wet and takes off. It will cool down quickly. It's not like it's a steam mop.

The difference is in the obstacle avoidance sensors with Aqua 10 using a stereo camera (found in the Aqua 10 Pro Track) just as Narwal Flow while Z60 uses a single RGB camera. In Aqua 10 (Pro Track, dunno about UltraRoller) has an onboard PTC water heating element while Z60 uses stored warm water similar to Narwal Flow. But, the downside of the onboard heater is that the battery drains quickly. P.S. I think Dreame Ultra Roller is a mix between Dreame's Pro Track and Mova Z60 Ultra Roller because it shares some parts between the two.

The flow cleans the on board dirty water tank when it goes to the base station https://preview.redd.it/c6frzktpothf1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=9eb8b6e86c96d73aaf8113561c14642336c06b4d

I had thought about him too, but: 1) I noticed that the lidar sensor does not recognize objects well on very thick and not smooth carpets; 2) I noticed that the track roll does not allow you to clean the dirt between the tile joints well, which Mova and Eufy do well (especially the former); 3) there has been a downgrade of the base which no longer has an auto-dispenser for detergent, touch controls and no electrolytic sterilization of the water. 4) on the software side there is no possibility of making it go to a wet area first with the floor cleaner and then go back with the vacuum, nor does it vacuum well near the feet of chairs and tables or desks; 5) the extensible propellers are missing during the suction phase to capture the crumbs at the edges (paradoxically you get there during the washing phase, but not during the suction phase). When they resolve at least points 3 and 5, perhaps with an "ultra" version, I will be convinced to take it. To date it still seems the best to me but in the rankings I am very close to Narwal Flow and Mova Z50 Ultra. My ranking: 1) Narwal flow 2) Mova Z50 ultra 3) Eufy S1 pro

I just wrote a super detailed post on this topic you can check my profile for the full thing but TL;DR >Real-time rollers/tracks look great in ads, but that’s mostly marketing theater. >For daily use, spinning pads are more than enough to maintain a base level of clean. >Tracks/rollers use more way more water, are louder, and need more maintenance. >Unless you’re constantly dealing with wet messes, they’re overkill. >Spinning pads remain the most practical choice for most homes Also not sure where you're seeing positive mentions about roomba, but avoid them entirely. Yeedi is a sub brand of ecovacs - its their budget line. They have some great value robots their but the value king robot right now is the Mova P10 Pro Ultra (not available in the eu) Eufy is fine but you wont find a lot of their products at the top of any rankings lists and their rolling mops have issues with the dirty water tank leaking. YMMV Right now id say Roborock, Dreame, Narwal and Mova are the best brands to choose from at this current moment. Knowing your region and budget would help with a recommendation. If you want a mopping first robot the Narwal flow at $1099 (track mop) is looking really nice. Probably the best mopper you can get at the moment. Only downside is that thing chugs water. Ecovacs robots have really good mopping scores as well but its hard to recommend them because they seem to have weird issues with the app and getting them to work right. If you can figure that out they are a good option. Besides that The Qrevo S5v is also a really highly rated mopper Best overall robot right now is the Mova V50 pro ultra at $1099

First one i've seen is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NnNX3s7f98&ab_channel=TheFrenchGlow TL;DR – After 30+ full-house runs, reviewer says the Narwhal Flow is the first robo-vac that actually mops like a wet/dry vacuum instead of just smearing dirt around. Key points: * Uses a track mop with continuous clean water + dirty water extraction, so clean/dirty never mix. * Can handle tough messes (maple syrup, chocolate milk, whipped cream) in one pass. * AI obstacle detection is solid, avoids cords better than competitors, and can adjust brush/suction speed for debris. * Cleans and dries its mop/roller with hot water until rinse water runs clear, reducing odor/bacteria. * App lets you customize vacuum/mop modes, humidity, carpet cleaning, and AI behavior per room. * Great edge cleaning with extendable roller, but can’t fully get into corners (geometry limitation). * Downsides: no auto-soap dispenser, mopping system takes space inside unit, occasional AI “confusion” if sensors are dirty/wet. * Verdict: Beats Roborock, Dreame, and iRobot for mopping - closest thing yet to a robotic wet/dry mop.

I disagree with your conclusion. The side-brush lift issue is an edge case, and it doesn’t change the fundamentals: 1. Spinning mops are bad at wet spills. They don’t remove liquid effectively; they smear it. In real use they need 4–6 passes and still leave residue. That’s not “better”—it’s just prolonging a mess. 2. Rolling & track mops can handle wet spills—but that’s the exception, not the rule. If there’s any format that can cope, it’s the rolling/roller style. Spinning mops simply don’t have the mechanics to pick up liquid without spreading it around. 3. Side-brush lift is a minor concern compared to the bigger risk. Even if a side brush gets wet/dirty, the larger problem with using any robot on a spill is liquid getting sucked into the dustbin and then into the base. That’s how you end up with spoiled milk/ketchup/soy sauce in the bin and dock—smell, mold, and an impossible to clean. This risk doesn’t go regardless of what mop style you use 4. “Spill detection” isn’t a safety net. Robots that claim to detect spills and auto-stop suction or lift brushes are inconsistent in practice. I’ve yet to see it work reliably enough to trust around actual liquids. You’re still gambling with your dustbin and dock. 5. Bottom line: don’t use a robot for wet spills. YouTube demos make it look fine, but they’re wrecking machines on camera. Wet messes belong to paper towels and a proper mop, not a vacuum/dock system with a dustbin and intake. So no—choosing a spinning mop for a wet spill because a rolling system doesn’t lift its side brush doesn’t make sense. The spinning mop will still do a worse job on the liquid and increases the chance of smearing it everywhere, and any robot risks sucking that liquid into the bin. It’s inefficient, risky, and not what these machines are built for. # Do not clean wet spills with your robot regardless of style # Do manual cleanup, then let the robot handle the dry maintenance pass > there’s no way for you to use detergent Incorrect. It doesn’t have an auto detergent dispenser but you can put detergent directly in the tank. Barrel recommends it and it is in the manual. I agree with 2 of your points. The side brush should be extending/lifting and the robot should be have auto detergent dispensing at this price point. But you are incorrect about everything else

>Not all roller and track mops actually pick up liquids into the dirty water tank, like the Ecovacs Omni X8 and X9 im talking about generalities sure, but specifically with the Narwal. It does. Just a dad got a defective unit mostly likely I have seen plenty of X9 reviews where it cleans just fine. Ecovacs, has way bigger issues that that # Regardless, dont clean wet messes with your robot no matter. >Spill detection doesn’t need to be a safety net and it is not inconsistent. It’s actually more efficient to separate the vacuuming and the mopping instead of having the robot do both at once. # Doesn't matter, dont clean wet messes with your robot. >The auto refill and drainage system does not let you add detergent because it does not have a water tank. It directly connects to plumbing You are mistaken. In the base version, you can definitely add detergent to the clean water tank manually. Narwal specifically in their manual recommends adding 3ml of solution to the clean water tank. The plumbed in version does come with a detergent tank, so you just need to keep the detergent tank filled, and it will automatically add detergent to the robot when it fills. See here: [https://support.narwal.com/hc/en-us/articles/38635987444493-Does-Narwal-Flow-Support-Automatic-Detergent-Dispensing-Narwal-Flow](https://support.narwal.com/hc/en-us/articles/38635987444493-Does-Narwal-Flow-Support-Automatic-Detergent-Dispensing-Narwal-Flow) >Basic Dock version It requires manual detergent refills. For a full tank of water, follow these ratios when adding detergent: ● Small detergent bottle (200ml): Add 1–3 capfuls, depending on how dirty your floors are. ● Large detergent bottle (930ml): Add 1 capful. >Compact Dock version It features a built-in main detergent reservoir.  During initial setup, manually fill the reservoir with cleaning detergent. The system will thereafter auto-dispense detergent. When detergent is depleted, the app will notify you to replenish. You can even see here that BOTH versions COME with detergent in the box: [https://support.narwal.com/hc/en-us/articles/38232199974285-What-s-in-the-Box-Flow](https://support.narwal.com/hc/en-us/articles/38232199974285-What-s-in-the-Box-Flow) >You can’t even clean the internal dirty water tank which is another issue.  The Narwal flow self cleans its dirty water tank during its self cleaning phase, so this is not an issue. Chinese reviewers have already done full tear downs of this robot and confirmed that the self cleaning cycle does a very good job at cleaning the onboard dirty water tank. To me, this is a superior solution. Having to manually clean a dirty water tank is knock on rollers/mops to me because I dont want MORE manual maintenance, and this gets rid of one of the biggest pieces of regular maintenance. Here's where I agree with. At this price point, the side brushes SHOULD lift and it SHOULD have auto detergent filling. If those are deal breakers for you, then fine. You can choose a robot that better suits your needs. Those are not deal breakers for me because: * I dont clean wet messes with my robot, so I don't care about that. And you shouldn't either. No one should. What you see in youtube stress tests is not how you should be treating your robot. * I can add detergent to the clean tank manually, it's not that big of a deal to me. Buy what you want. I dont really care.

Narwal Flow is probably the best mopping robot out right now. I’d look at that. It’s on presale right now for $1099 The only thing with the flow is it uses a ton of water, so if you have the space and willingness to do it, the plumbed in version is probably the way to go. If you don’t mind refilling the tank with water and floor cleaner in the base version more often then that works too. But you don’t need $1500 to get the good performance you are looking for fyi.

The Narwal Flow has been out in asia for a long time. Use google translate in chrome browser here: https://blog.naver.com/roboticsnugget/223895959529 part.1 https://blog.naver.com/roboticsnugget/223897327563 part.2 This was really helpful in depth review comparing it to the Dreame X50. There's just no way any part of a cat is getting sucked up into any of these vacuums. They arent that strong or big enough. Cats and people are very easy for these machines to recognize. They're big compared to the things they struggle with, like cords. You dont need to worry about this. Beyond that though my cat just ignores and runs away when it gets close anyways The Narwal notoriously uses a ton of water, so if you dont want to want to be refilling constantly then you might choose something different. I dont know if you're dead set on this price range but right now you can get the Mova V50 cheaper than than the Narwal flow with code USLIVEONLY50 for $50 off through movas website. It has Lidar+RGB and its the better vacuum of the 2 unless you're dead set on a rolling mop. and Mova vacuums do specifically have pet recognition which is fun. It does recognize pets, but since it has a camera, it records a .gif of your pet interacting with it and sends it to your phone lol I use a Mova P10 Pro Ultra in 1950 square feet, half my house every day and I need to replace the water once a week. Your house is smaller, so you might need to refill less depending on how much you mop

If you’re deciding between these, I’d skip the Eufy S1 Pro. A few reasons: The S2 is coming out soon The dirty water tank tends to leak It’s over a year old, and there are better/cheaper options now The Narwhal Flow looks great, but it has some flaws if edge cleaning matters to you. Since they didn’t go with a swing-out brush, the design tends to fling dirt around instead of pulling it in (check Jamie Andrews’ recent video on this). It especially pushes dirt behind the vacuum, where it doesn’t get picked up again. On top of that, track and roller mops (even if they extend) just aren’t great at edge cleaning. If edge cleaning is a priority, I’d look at the Mova P50 or V50. Swing-out mop pads + brush arms will always beat extending tracks/rollers here. P50 → Strong value at ~$600, but front wheel issues are common. If you get a good unit, it’s fantastic for the price. If you get a bad one, you’ll be stuck dealing with the wheel. If oyu choose this one then make sure you order from amazon since they will take your return with no questions asked V50 → $1,099, more expensive but also the best overall vacuum right now, def top 2. So bottom line: Skip the S1 Pro. Narwhal Flow = great, but poor edge cleaning. If edge cleaning is important → P50 (better value but risky) or V50 (expensive but less manufacturing defects). Hope that helps!

For mopping specifically probably the Narwal flow but you really don’t need to spend that much to get good mopping. Unless you’re cleaning up big dirty messes constantly spinning mops and roller mops perform about the say in general use. Remember these mops should be going everyday or every other so your house should really never been getting that dirty.

I agree but the flow is supposed to have a self cleaning dirty water tank which most other rollers dont. Not being able to see it or check how clean it is tho might be concerning

It does, it detects when the bin is empty and goes back mid run. Vacuum Chef confirmed that in the comments of his review

I’m surprised by VacuumNerds review, because it shows a misunderstanding of how the spinning side brushes actually work. He demonstrates them while stationary, and says they don’t extended to the corners but that’s not how they function—when the robot reaches a corner, the brush reverses, which swings the extended arm out to reach the edge. The fact that he’s had the unit for five months and didn’t notice this is concerning. On top of that, the side brush in his video appears to be broken. Not a good look if that breaks easily for narwal though I’ll admit. Not a great review here misunderstanding one of the key innovations on this robot

What timestamp are you referring to? I didn’t see him demonstrate that at any point. At the end, he actually shows that his orange brush is broken—and that’s the brush on the right side that’s supposed to extend when the robot reverses. Even if he had tried to show it, it wouldn’t have worked with a broken brush. And when he pushes the robot into the corner, he’s using the left brush, which isn’t the one designed to extend. I’ve watched just about every review on this robot, and his is the only one where this issue shows up. The design does work and it reaches into corners. The real drawback, in my opinion, is that since the brush spins in the opposite direction, it sometimes flicks dirt behind the robot or out to the left—often into spots it’s already cleaned and won’t revisit. You can see that in a few other reviews, i think in Jamie Andrews’. But overall, it’s still a clever solution to corner cleaning that you wouldn't know from Vacuum Nerds review.

I agree with that also. Saw some reviews where it was flinging dirty behind the robot since it spun the brush backwards. That’s a problem because if there is dirt in the path of where the robot already came from, it’s going not going to clean it until the next run.

Happy to provide some feedback, I really liked your review. Only a couple things come to mind. You talked about the corner cleaning performance, but you never SHOWED it. You talked about how the brush reverses in corners, but never gave us a top down shot of that in action. You showed the corner cleaning from the underside, but that's not entirely helpful. My other suggestion would be understanding the common complaints with roller and track mops, and talking about those typical deficiencies with this model. For example the common reasons people are still choose spinning mops of track mops: >Maintenance – You’ll be tearing down scrapers, waste tanks, and rollers weekly. More moving parts = more cleaning for you. >Mop odor – If the drying system doesn’t fully work, bacteria build up inside. Track/roller systems trap more moisture, so smell creeps in faster than with open spinning pads. >Noise – They’re louder. The motors work harder under load, and you notice it right away compared to spinning systems. >Water use – This one’s huge. Real-time rollers/tracks chew through a lot of water. Without plumbing, you’ll be refilling tanks basically daily, or every other day at best. Expect water usage far higher than spinning pad systems. >Edge cleaning – The mop frames mean they don’t fully hit corners or walls. Spinning pads can hug the edge better. >Power draw – Bigger batteries, more complexity, more heat, which ties into the seventh point >Failure rate – Scrapers clog, motors strain, sludge builds up in parts you can’t reach. Over time, that means higher failure risk. You addressed a few of these, and some are near impossible to test, like the failure rate etc. But some of these would be great to get someone covering. Particularly the battery life. How much square footage could you clean on a full charge in vacuum mode or mop mode? How often were you refilling the water tanks? Did the roller get fully dry between washes? How much of the tank did it use to do a whole house mopping? This would help me choose between the base version and the plumbed in version.

Not sure why, they didn’t understand a key feature of this robot and are arguing in the comments about it with people that are saying they got it wrong.

Flow if you care most about mopping... I like the Z for the value + station features!

Narwal flow is probably the best mopping robot I’ve tested to date. It does an awesome job

No was a beta tester. Went through two versions of it. Happy to answer any questions. The hot water mopping does such a great job with grime

No access to internal tank, believe the way the base station scrapes it’s not needed like the eufy And yes it doesn’t suck up wet messes, does a great job cleaning them

You have obviously experienced the wrong bot(s). They get really good, and overcome many of the hassles you've expressed, when you get to the high-end models. They get pricey, but a top-tier Narwal or Roborock will change your tune. Comparing them to a sub-$500 Shark or Roomba is a mistake. Like saying a Ferrari must suck because your Civic can barely do the speed limit. There's still limitations, and a vacuum will always make some noise, but there's a reason that people really like their expensive bots.

I got one from Narval last month for around 20k, happy with the experience as of now

Narwal Is the only robot that even attempts to clean the baseboard but the only thing the frio z or x does is run a muff along it. It doesn't actually clean. It's a duster. And the frio x and z have some other problems. Notably they are water hogs and you have to refill the water all the time. After every single run.

Sure about that? I have a Narwal. It vacuums and mops. You can choose the floor type both for mopping and vacuuming and pick if you want a damp or wet mop. It’s WELL worth the money in my opinion

I only have roombas and a Narwal but the Narwal is also extremely quiet at low suction. Pretty irrelevant, but I would wonder how the two would compare.

I am very interested in the Matic from a tech POV but it seems to early to lock in into one. Both tech wise and company future-wise. They're not available in Canada yet, which makes that reasoning a lot easier. I think the Narwal is doing pretty well. Cat toys are always tricky. Some are so close to dust bunnies that it'll lead to false negatives not picking up dust bunnies.

I like my Narwal but it has gotten stuck on a pretty common Ikea chair. That really surprised me. Other than that I have been very impressed with its obstacle avoidance. Its edge cleaning also could be a lot better, I hardly ever see it do the twist. Also treshold detection. It tends to ride up to them and not clean the inch next to the treshold because of that. Toe kick cleaning is in my experience non-existent. Maybe mine are too low, I'll have to clean those 2 inches by hand.

Narwal is known for its obstacle avoidance though, and based on my experience that is very well deserved.

We have a Narwahl. If you have pets, make sure you look for one that is good with pet hair. We went up a model For that reason.

I noticed it can clean for up to 270 minutes on a single charge. That's longer than my old Narwal, but I'm more excited to see how well its mopping function actually works.

It's because I laugh how ecovacs is considered good with pets, but I've seen reviews of actual and real performance, not some lab tests, and they always struggle with hair getting stuck in their brushes. Ecovacs is just not as good as Narwal or the newer Roborock's model in that aspect. And if the test "fails" in that category, how can I believe other aspects of the review? Is it ust a coincidence that Ecovacs triumphes in every category with many of their robots?

I really like the Narwal. Sadly... it's not HA compatible yet. Hoping someone fixes that one day.

Oh man, deciding on a robot vacuum is like trying to pick the best pizza topping combo—there’s no right answer! Personally, navigating around dog toys and somehow managing my long-haired cat’s shedding is my top struggle. I’ve been through the madness of getting vacuums jammed with hair more often than a concert mosh pit! I tried the Roomba first before giving the Roborock a shot—it’s like night and day for avoiding hair clumps. For mopping, Narwal’s practically the Baymax of vacuums, so no surprise it’s at the top of your list. Yeedi has some solid feedback on its roller mop tech, though I’m still a bit skeptical until I see fewer water skid marks. Also, services like ConsumerRating often have more insights on models like these if you want the nitty-gritty details. Good luck in the spring sale showdown!

I have 3 cats and two Narwhal robovacs, and they are a godsend for pet fur and tracked litter. Sometimes an upright is still needed for some tasks, but for day to day maintenance, they keep the floors looking great. I have them vac and mop.

I had a freo z ultra for a couple weeks and took it back for a saros 10r. Mopping on the Narwal was pretty good, vacuuming just ok. The iOS app has a pretty bad battery drain bug right now too. Also I didn’t like how much data the Narwal sent to servers. In the 2 weeks I had it, my firewall logs showed the Narwal sent over 20 GB of data. I had the remote video disabled so assume it was for vision AI analysis. Still, it shouldn’t need to send that much data. We’ll see if the Flow processes more locally. The Saros 10r by comparison has sent maybe 100 MB in a week. I’m guessing Roborock is doing more AI analysis on the robot.

Try Narwal robot, they do great with tangle-free tech. My Freo Z never has this problem.

What I am focusing most is looking at the reviews for snippets showing how robots clean edges and corners. When the robot boasts its extending mop pad/roller, and I see that because its navigation its cleaning the edges so bad it might as well have not extending mop, I take it as a signal of "we dont care if the feature is implemented properly, we care that we can boast it in marketing materials", and completely drop the brand from my considerations. So far Ecovacs and Yeedi (which have the same owner?) are especially showing bad signs of this, and I say that as someone who blindly bought their top of the line robot in about 2020, and been kinda happy with it since. When brand releases top-of-the-line robot at top-of-the-line price point with something as basic as vibrating mop pad, I cant shake of the "Lets see how many suckers will buy this if paid youtube shillers astroturf it to the moon", so there goes the Saros line, and a Roborock name gets a huge minus. Then theres Dreame, which looks solid at first glance, and after watching hundreds of videos I had to drop it too. They seem to want to be percieved as pioneers, offering retractable lidar, huge threshold crossings, and those features actually work, but the core navigation again shows that my floor would be cleaned very inconsistently, namely around edges. Then theres Narwal, a huge potential that seem to miss the mark every release. I want their Flow to finally fix their issues, but have little hope. And then theres Eufy, which to me remains the only brand limited by their technology and not programming. Missing extending mop means no edge mopping at all, but man when I look at any video how it hugs walls/chair legs, or how it navigates around corners, I am impressed. Apart from carpet cleaning performance and weak corner reach brush, they seem to done everything right, so I am waiting for what they drop next (aka S2). If they include edge extending mop+brush, I think its a clear winner for me. I dont care about carpets, the mopping is undisputed, the programming (navigation) has no match neither. Oh, and then theres Mova, which I am eagerly awaiting their Z50 Pro Ultra (which should have extending mop too), but theres so little info about that brand that I forget about them most of the time.

I don't have other comparisons, but myself (long hair) and my cat have had a Narwal for over a year and I've never once had the roller clog with hair. It's got a tapered roller and apparently this is successful in keeping hair from getting tangled.

I hope you have a great experience with Eufy, I bought S1Pro. It was cleaning beautifully, a big upgrade from my Narwal, then 8 months in I had a fan error. From that point on and about 12 emails, customer service said the same thing in each email, I had already done the troubleshooting before. Couldn’t talk to CS, finally called Amazon and they helped me get a refund…but Eufy has 30 days to issue and then Amazon takes about 2 weeks. Needless to say, I am extremely careful about my next purchase.

My GSD hates my Narwal. He especially hates when he sees the underside. I think he may think it’s a big monster. The spinning mop pads are the eyes and the flat roller brush is its mouth. Your cat, were it to get in a beef with a neighboring cat, would certainly have some impressive / intimidating muscle he could bring along.

Personally I'd get the Narwal or Eufy. Both are very good all around, but are two of the best mopping robots as well. The Q Revo Curv would be my pick if that price wasn't so astronomically inflated. It's only $1300 right now here in the US.

I just replaced my J7 and Narwal last week (2 of them). I had the M6 prior and it's simply awful. I got the Eufy e28. It's terrific. I know that you had issues years ago, but they came a long way. I've cleaned my entire house 4 or 5 times, and it barely used any water. I think that it should last weeks before refilling.

Narwal. Not the top of the line, but the next one down. It’s been really great. It adapts to changes without any issue. We really like it. I don’t know about home assist compatibility.

My dogs freaked out at first with my Narwal, but we gave them high value treats every time we started a cycle and pretty soon they ignored it. The Narwal sensors have "pet detection" so it will stop when it sees my dog in its path. Since you have cats you could take them into a room with the robot and have Churu on hand. Just let them come up and sniff it, Churu, more sniffing, Churu etc.

I bought one of the new ones and returned it for a Narwal. Much happier but Narwal needs to fire their UI people and redesign their app from the ground up.

I went with a Roomba (just the vacuum) as I liked my older model and I'm not a fan of this one so I'm trying Narwal next. Generally the Roomba is fine but the obstacle avoidance is lacking to the point where it climbs over the ground level support bars of my chairs, and therefor doesn't really clean under the kitchen table, where it often needs it most. Supposedly smart obstacle avoidance was a part of its selling features. Otherwise it's maybe a bit noisy, has a very small filter, and doesn't seem to have a lot of suction. The map seemed to work which surprised me with my past experience with them.

I have a narwal from costco and it works on my white oak hardwoods, tile, and carpet.

Narwal is quiet and excellent with mopping

Narwal is very good with mopping and app floorplan looks better and clean while other apps walls looks rough and raffled.

I have a Narwal and am pretty happy with it. That said you have no way of knowing what works for your situation without trying. That’s what the return policy is for. Just keep trying and see what works for you. As for wires - really no solution to that. Some can detect some wires some of the time. The best solution is to simply clean up the wires or prevent the vacuum from going where there are lots of wires.

I have a narwal and it's fucking awesome. With the plumbing kit it just sits in the laundry, drives itself out, cleans the house, then returns to the base station to clean its own mop pads, empty the vacuum bin and recharge. Then it does it all again the next day. I do about ten minutes of maintenance a month, that the app tells me to do, like emptying the bin or replacing the pads. It also occasionally tangles itself in stuff like string on the ground, it has a really nice vacuum system to avoid hair getting tangled though. There's also nice configurable extras like cleaning the mop pads after doing the toilet so you don't spread contamination.

My Narwal broke within a month and the warranty process was god awful. While I had it, it would ram full force into things in a way that was almost comical. Couldn't have been happier to move on to a different company, Went to Roborock in my case but the other products mentioned by others also seem interesting.

Blades are shit. Effective are the rollers that direct the hair towards one side like some dreame or narwal or to the centre like roborock

We also have Narwal and LOVE it.