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Narwal - Flow Robot Vacuum & Mop

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"LiDAR-plus-camera that side-steps toys and chargers"


"I have been very impressed with its obstacle avoidance."


"The obstacle avoidance and AI cleaning seem to continue to be at the top of the industry."

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"Can handle tough messes (maple syrup, chocolate milk, whipped cream) in one pass."


"But eats cockatiel poop with no residue on the mop after the self clean. ... I posted a video of it cleaning up a small cockatoo poop. ... The problems with the ones you listed is that they use two spinny circle pads to mop—in other words, you first smear the cockatiel “gifts” onto the mop pads and then the poopy mop then smears it everywhere else. Look into the mechanism for the narwal flow mop if interested."


"some of the best mopping available right now (track style, excellent for tile)"

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"I’ve found the narwal tangle free brush solution to be excellent. ... Yes with my daughters long hair and constantly shedding Rottweilers the narwal is the first that hasn’t died or become too much hassle within the first year"


"they do great with tangle-free tech ... My Freo Z never has this problem."


"I've never once had the roller clog with hair. ... It's got a tapered roller and apparently this is successful in keeping hair from getting tangled."

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"Many times I run it at 2 a.m. downstairs and it does not wake me, my wife or my dogs."


"It seems to be the quietest out right now with one of the longest lasting batteries."


"Finally, along with the Flow's quiet operation, I'm very happy with the clean out."

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"Narwal has decided to keep that reservoir internal and use some new tech/methods to keep it clean. ... There's a paddle in the base station that keeps the dirty water mixed and easier to suck up and the Chinese reviews that have removed the onboard reservoir after a few months of use, seem to be favorable. ... Personally, I think you are going to see more and more of this concept as no-one wants to clean an onboard water reservoir."


"The Narwal flow self cleans its dirty water tank during its self cleaning phase, so this is not an issue. Chinese reviewers have already done full tear downs of this robot and confirmed that the self cleaning cycle does a very good job at cleaning the onboard dirty water tank. To me, this is a superior solution. Having to manually clean a dirty water tank is knock on rollers/mops to me because I dont want MORE manual maintenance, and this gets rid of one of the biggest pieces of regular maintenance."


"internal dirt tank from a Chinese tester, who had run their version for many months and then took the robot apart to inspect the tank visually, and it looked new."

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"Its a mostly fine robot but not a fan of their mapping software. ... The basic and simple and frustrating issues with the Narwal software have been there now for well over a year. ... Issues like mapping open concept spaces and having easy to use and manipulate split and merge lines have been solved years ago by other companies like Roborock and by Dreame. ... There is no excuse that Narwal - who has most definately been made aware of these issues long ago - has either chosen to ignore fixing 'merge/split' options (and more) or the current team is incapable of doing so. ... As a homeowner with a large open concept layout their mapping software is crap and pretty much renders using their robot useless unless I want to compromise how I use a Narwal. ... Something that is not an issue with Roborock or Dreame or Mova (and probably others also). ... So if a home has basically traditiona wall spaces.Sure. Narwal is great. If the layout is open concept. Then....Narwal no."


"Narwal.Flow. Go ahead and put it a large open floor plan house to test its mapping. I dare you. ... The worst experience compared to Roborock or Dreame mapping. Thoroughly unusable. ... Merge and splits not lining up with sections. ... 4 remapping attempts. Over 20 merge or split attempts."


"Keeps missing rooms of my house"

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"The freo x and freo z our water hogs so don't buy one unless you're okay replacing the water and dumping the dirty water after every single mopping run in a small house and mid-run on a big house."


"The Narwal notoriously uses a ton of water, so if you dont want to want to be refilling constantly then you might choose something different."


"Because of the cleaning cycle of the mop at the base station, the Flow uses a lot of water. ... But, if you have the standard station like me, you'll have to fill up and empty the tanks often."

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"The real drawback, in my opinion, is that since the brush spins in the opposite direction, it sometimes flicks dirt behind the robot or out to the left—often into spots it’s already cleaned and won’t revisit. ... Saw some reviews where it was flinging dirty behind the robot since it spun the brush backwards. That’s a problem because if there is dirt in the path of where the robot already came from, it’s going not going to clean it until the next run. ... The Narwal Flow spins the brushes clockwise which sends debris behind the robot. This problem is unique to the Flow and I haven’t seen other vacuums do that in corners"


"I wouldn’t say it beats Roborock and Dreame for mopping because the side brushes don’t lift when it mops over a spill. ... The side brushes do not get washed in the dock either so that’s just more manual labor. ... Also, the side brushes touch the vacuum brushes so if the side brushes touch a ketchup spill, the ketchup will get transferred from the side brush to the vacuum brushes when the vacuum brushes lower down. Then you have to clean that manually as well ... Not if it’s recontaminating the cleaned areas with soiled side brushes. And cleaning the soiled brushes that aren’t supposed to be wet in the first place is just more maintenance work and counterintuitive to having a robot do the job for you. ... Side brushes not lifting is not a minor concern. ... This is when having lifted side brushes are important so it’s not spinning and spreading around wet messes. ... the side brushes are just going to recontaminate the cleaned areas. ... Lifting brushes during mopping is just common sense and not including it at $1000+ is just not even doing the bare minimum ... The side brushes extend beyond the mop. And you still have to clean the side brushes to prevent mold and contamination."


"The side brush should be extending/lifting ... At this price point, the side brushes SHOULD lift"

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"I ran into trouble with the vacuuming feature when it came to my high-pile carpets. ... It seemed like the vacuum just couldn’t handle the thickness, often sinking in and dragging the mop along. ... This extra drag made it get stuck quite a bit on the carpet."


"the lack of obstacle avoidance on carpet was concerning. ... though that obstacle avoidance issue with Vacuum Chef is concerning"


"I didn't think it did as great a job vacuuming and mopping as was promised, particularly in the mopping. ... It missed a lot."

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"The auto refill and drainage system base is also flawed because there’s no way for you to use detergent ... The auto refill and drainage system does not let you add detergent because it does not have a water tank. It directly connects to plumbing. I already asked Narwal customer service about this and they confirmed that the optional upgrade doesn’t let you use detergent so it’s actually a downgrade."


"no auto-soap dispenser ... the robot should be have auto detergent dispensing at this price point ... it SHOULD have auto detergent filling"


"there has been a downgrade of the base which no longer has an auto-dispenser for detergent, touch controls and no electrolytic sterilization of the water."

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AlternativeDog9793 • 3 months ago

Narwal flow with the automatic refill and drainage system. There is absolutely no equal on the market.

r/RobotVacuums • The best robot vacuum/mop on the market ->
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AlternativeDog9793 • 3 months ago

Norwall flow with the auto refill and drainage system. Best mop and vacuum system on the market hands down.

r/RobotVacuums • Best of the best now? ->
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AlternativeDog9793 • about 2 months ago

I really enjoyed using my Narwal Flow for mopping; it did a fantastic job! However, I ran into trouble with the vacuuming feature when it came to my high-pile carpets. It seemed like the vacuum just couldn’t handle the thickness, often sinking in and dragging the mop along. This extra drag made it get stuck quite a bit on the carpet. If you have low-pile carpets, I think this vacuum would work wonderfully for you. Unfortunately, I had to send mine back because, at that price, I expected it to perform well on both carpets and hard floors.

r/RobotVacuums • Hands-on thoughts: Narwal Flow vs Dreame Aqua10 Ultra Roller ->
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AlternativeDog9793 • 2 months ago

The compact version of the flow is an excellent mopping machine, outperforming competitors, and it is a good vacuum. A downside is its high water usage as a good mop should; it often returns to empty dirty water and refill with fresh. If you opt for the non-plumbed version, you'll need to replace the water frequently so there’s more babysitting of this robot if you have a big home with lots of hard floors. The plumbed version is great when functioning properly, but initial pump priming is required, which can lead to flooding. There is no help from Narwal on how to best prime the pump nor is there any instructions; at first, I just thought I had a defective unit. After some effort and a lot of water cleanup, I got mine primed finally, and now it works well. This pump priming issue is a manufacturing oversight that needs to be addressed.

r/RobotVacuums • Narwal flow ->
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Creative-Breath7788 • 3 months ago

Great, please add some first impressions when it has ran. I currently have the flow and thinking of buying the roller.

r/RobotVacuums • Dreame Aqua 10 Ultra Roller vs Narwal Flow - AMA ->
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Creative-Breath7788 • 3 months ago

Nevermind just saw the picture of your wheels. Look at this post: different wheels: https://www.reddit.com/r/Dreame_Tech/s/CqmY0S4aAH Another question, my narwal flow obstacle avoidance I don't think is really good, my Mova V50 ultra bumps less to obstacles. Do you notice the same? I even set the setting to Safety instead of Smart in the flow app.

r/RobotVacuums • Dreame Aqua 10 Ultra Roller vs Narwal Flow - AMA ->
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Gunflint_RR2 • 4 months ago

Has there been any indication when Dreame will come out with specs on their Ultra Roller? As more info continues to come out, the more confidence I have with my Narwal Flow purchase. I don't think it will be the perfect machine, but the overall collective reviews have it as a generational leap forward in mopping, and more than serviceable in vacuuming. My house is mostly hard floor, so it seems great. I just wish it had more field of view on the laser and they didn't screw their possible customers on the autofill base. The only thing that could give me pause is the Ultra Roller, but I've still seen nothing about it which lends me to believe they announced it on 8/6 only because the Flow was coming out the next day. Rush to market is never a good engineering strategy. Lack of information confirms that rush. The Pro Track could have been an attention contender which was the easy button, but Dreame decided either that was too expensive or too complex for the American market. Either reason is poor.

r/RobotVacuums • Aqua 10 Ultra Roller Silence ->
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Gunflint_RR2 • 4 months ago

You are right. I've been waiting since January for the Flow. I'm not happy with how Narwal did this rollout with their autofill, but the robot still looks like it is meeting most of the hype, though nothing is definite without more real world use. The Pro Track could have swayed me, but you're right the roller version, whatever it looks like, probably won't be as effective as the track version.

r/RobotVacuums • Aqua 10 Ultra Roller Silence ->
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Gunflint_RR2 • 4 months ago

No, it is obviously the better option for the Flow. Because of the cleaning cycle of the mop at the base station, the Flow uses a lot of water. It looks like the cleaning cycle is very effective at keeping the mop track clean, which is great. But, if you have the standard station like me, you'll have to fill up and empty the tanks often. Your version is much more seamless. The problem is Narwal knows it, so they are charging a lot more for your version during the pre-order period, and you don't get the benefit of the extended warranty or accessory grant. You are getting the better version because you can do multiple cleanings without intervening at all with the unit.

r/RobotVacuums • Aqua 10 Ultra Roller Silence ->
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Gunflint_RR2 • 4 months ago

You are right that a person should wait if they are in no rush. I don't have a desperate need to upgrade my 6-year-old Roombas, but there has been considerable testing over the last several months by Betas with testimonials. The YouTube videos released in the last several weeks are mostly biased to some degree, but at least some do show the limitations. Jamie Andrews is very quantitative, and he's had the unit for 3 months. He showed navigation, suction, and corner side broom performances that were less than perfect, but overall, he said it was a solid performer, with mopping being top tier. I was most impressed with the base station cleaning. Someone elsewhere posted a terrific review of the internal dirt tank from a Chinese tester, who had run their version for many months and then took the robot apart to inspect the tank visually, and it looked new. Even if the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track was coming in September, I'm certain Narwal is the right machine for me. Moreover, the longer Dreame remains radio silent on the Aqua 10 Roller, the more evident it becomes that they are not ready to release it, and there are flaws in the Pro Track that prevented them from bringing it to the US.

r/RobotVacuums • Aqua 10 Ultra Roller Silence ->
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Gunflint_RR2 • 4 months ago

I ordered the Flow with the Standard Base Station. I had intended to buy the Auto Fill Station, but their pre-order pricing strategy makes no sense to me. It's an extra $400, with no extended warranty and no accessory pack gift. Vacuum Chef yesterday released a video of his Flow experience, and the lack of obstacle avoidance on carpet was concerning. I was considering buying the Aqua 10 Pro Track instead of the Flow, as I figured it would be announced at the 8/6 event. I'd still consider moving from the Flow, as I'm not entirely satisfied with Narwal's rollout strategy and have some reservations about their obstacle avoidance capabilities. But there is very little information about the Aqua 10 Ultra Roller. Has anyone seen any videos or read any reviews beyond just that general Digitch article or that Tom's Guide blurb? Has this even been out in China yet? I'd like to know more about it before 9/1.

r/RobotVacuums • Pre-ordered Flow, but still open to changing to Aqua 10 Roller ->
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Gunflint_RR2 • 4 months ago

I do view that channel too. I'm anxious to see more detailed info on the Aqua line available for 9/1. It's been almost a week since the announcement, and there has been no release of any substantial information to inform a buying decision. Given Narwal's strong pre-order incentive for the standard base station package, it is hard to forego taking advantage of that, given the absence of information from Dreame. I assume there will be more information/videos/specs released before 9/1.

r/RobotVacuums • Pre-ordered Flow, but still open to changing to Aqua 10 Roller ->
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Gunflint_RR2 • 4 months ago

That is true, the spec doesn't tell you everything . If it has the same general structure of the Pro Track, you can make assumptions on performance. But, if there are structural differences, like the absence of a heating coil on board of the Ultra Roller, that is a significant deviation from the somewhat real-world tested Pro Track. I think many people on this feed are similar to me -- I want a machine that is cutting edge in cleaning, but I want to make sure to be as informed as possible before making a very large cash outlay. An uninformed decision can cost money, but so can analysis paralysis. Narwal provided a substantial incentive to adopt the standard base station Flow. If Dreame wants to influence buying decisions, they must provide information that prompts the buyer to consider alternatives. Just announcing something cool will be available on 9/1 does nothing for me. By that date my Flow will have done multiple cleanings on my marble and wood floors.

r/RobotVacuums • Pre-ordered Flow, but still open to changing to Aqua 10 Roller ->
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Gunflint_RR2 • 4 months ago

I am keeping my Flow order. Hopefully I'll have it by this time next week. I expect the navigation to be less efficient than a 360 tower, but that will just mean it takes longer to do a job. The upside far outweighs that issue of longer time commitment per cleaning. I put a lot of stock in Jamie Andrew reviews, and the Flow's LIDAR design was highlighted as a con. But, for the price right now, Narwal seems to give superior mopping with thorough system cleaning at the end of jobs. The obstacle avoidance and AI cleaning seem to continue to be at the top of the industry. Vacuum performance seems to be above average, though it may take multiple passes to capture everything in some circumstances. Whenever the Pro Track comes out, it will be more expensive with less capable AI and a requirement to clean the onboard dirty tank manually. The base station will need to be cleaned periodically, just like the Flow, though unlike the Flow you can't remove the landing dock so cleaning the Dreame dock will be harder. If I have to do more manual maintaintance on the Pro Track, it doesnt matter to me it navigates more efficiently. I'm not in a huge rush to buy something, but even if the Pro Track was coming out tomorrow, I'd stay Flow.

r/RobotVacuums • Pre-ordered Flow, but still open to changing to Aqua 10 Roller ->
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Gunflint_RR2 • 2 months ago

Vacuum Nerds tested at normal suction Narwal Flow is 55 db. Super Powerful setting is 65 dbs. Vacuum Wars should be releasing their video review any day now. It's currently rated at #2 on that site, so you can see objective results already. That site had an issue with a base station water reading in two successive units, but I haven't seen that anywhere else. I haven't heard that the Chinese version, which has been out for much of this year, is experiencing the same issue, so it appears to be an anomaly. There have been some issues reported with hard-plumbed base stations; some may be due to installation errors, while hardware failures may cause others. I've run mine multiple times a week for 4 weeks, with no issues. I'm mostly hardwood and marble tile, and this unit has been terrific for me. Many times I run it at 2 a.m. downstairs and it does not wake me, my wife or my dogs.

r/RobotVacuums • Which roller mop for 1st robot vacuum? ->
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Gunflint_RR2 • about 2 months ago

I don't know about the 10R; never ran it. I'll say my Flow does great on hard floors, doesn't jam with heavy debris and is simple to clean. Roborock seems to be the industry leader, but i have no complaints on my Narwal and I think it is a great value for the price.

r/RobotVacuums • Narwal Flow or Roborock Saros 10R ->
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Gunflint_RR2 • 3 months ago

I really appreciate you doing this. Your observations thus far have been very illuminating, as it seems like there are Narwal and Dreame factions, with each side minimizing the good of the other. There seem to be more Dreame/Mova people who discredit the Narwal design, but that may be bias on my part because I really like my Flow thus far. Just a Dad still irritates me every time he glows about Aqua 10 Track doing something that the Flow did as well or better. Your App statement is good to know. I thought the Narwal app was good, though there are things that could be better labeled (down pressure adjustments) and functionality upgrades (mid-job dustbin option). I don't have experience with the Dreame UI, but that seems a usual knock against Narwal -- Dreame's app is much better. The mapping is also enlightening. One of my biggest reasons for considering the Aqua 10 Pro Track this summer (when we still thought it was coming to the States), was the LIDAR tower vs the Flows rear mount. It doesn't sound like the stowable tower buys you much in mapping improvement, and it forces Dreame to have a smaller onboard dustbin. I very much want to hear your experience with the mopping. Does greater down pressure give you a better clean over a track mop that has a larger surface contact area? And does the fact that the Flow uses warm water vs Dreame's cold water impact the pick up? Does Dreame's fluffing wheel seem to work? That does sound like a good design. Finally, along with the Flow's quiet operation, I'm very happy with the clean out. A lot of people find the built-in internal dirty water tank a hindrance for the Flow, but it is a strength. Only time will tell if Narwal's design keeps that tank clean over prolonged use, but if it does, that is a great advantage over manually cleaning the tank on the Dreame. How successful is Dreame in emptying that tank after use? Is cleaning the landing dock easier or harder than cleaning the Flow's? Like me, it sounds like you clean multiple times a week. If there is sewage water always in that dirty tank, I have to think the smell probability over time goes up. But if there isn't much sewage left after the unit goes through full clean, that shouldn't matter for smell.

r/RobotVacuums • Dreame Aqua 10 Ultra Roller vs Narwal Flow - AMA ->
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Gunflint_RR2 • about 2 months ago

I have 1700 sqft mostly marble and hardwood on my main floor. I've had my Narwal Flow since the end of August doing multiple cleanings weekly. I have 2 dogs and multiple rugs. I have the basic base station so I do have to fill and empty the tanks. The Flow looks like it has the biggest clean and dirty tanks (5L each) of the flagship track/roller units out right now, so though it uses a fair bit of water, the tanks are big so I dont need to deal with them every time I clean. The dirty tank on the bot is self cleaning, so I never have to wash it out. The landing pad in the base station is easy to pull out and clean (I do it every other week). It seems to be the quietest out right now with one of the longest lasting batteries. I usually clean in the middle of the night when everyone is sleeping upstairs. The con i think is the app is not as adjustable as say Dreame, Mova or Roborock. With hard surfaces, I'd recommend doing a track or roller bot. Some say those type of bots are harder to clean and more complex. My Flow is easy.

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Gunflint_RR2 • 20 days ago

I agree with u/FarConcern2308 that if you have the right bot you dont have to clean often. I have a Narwal Flow, and I clean the base once a month after running it 3 times a week on 1500 sqft of mostly marble and wood with two dogs. The Flow is unique in that you dont have to clean the onboard trash tank - that is cleaned automatically with an installed spinning motor with a backlash process. The landing dock in the base is also fully removable so you dont have to reach in to clean the dock at all. I think one of the biggest pluses of the Flow is the cleaning requirements, or lack there of.

r/RobotVacuums • Fully self-cleaning vacuum/mop? ->
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Gunflint_RR2 • 20 days ago

I would buy a Narwal Flow or Mova Z60 through Amazon right now. They have an extended return policy in effect so you would have longer than 30 days to try something out to see if it works for your situation. I have the Flow and love it (using it since August). People are also very complimentary of the Z60. There has been some people liking the Ecovacs X11, but the mapping sounds slow and the app may not be as good. I'd stay away from the Dreame Aqua 10 Roller as there have been design flaws, though some say they are fixed now. The reason I recommend those bots is because they use track or roller mops. For hard surfaces, it just seems to be a better system, though some may argue that the spinner mops are better because they are simpler. The cleaning results with the track or roller mops are just more thorough. The Flow would be the quietest with a long battery life and a very minimal base cleaning requirement. The Mova has more down pressure with their roller, so cleaning in creavases would be better. The Flow has a track mop so the cleaning dwell time is longer since there is more of the mop surface area cleaning at any one time. What ever you decide, go through Amazon right now to take advantage of the extended return window.

r/RobotVacuums • No carpet, all hardwoods, massive amounts of Bernese mtn dog fur. Any price, USA. ->
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Gunflint_RR2 • 20 days ago

Roller mops, and similar but not the same track mops, actually clean themselves as they work and collect the dirty water in an onboard tank. They are much more efficient at cleaning then because they collect much more dirt over spinning pads. Once a pad is saturated by dirt, it just moves the remaining dirt on the floor around, until it goes back to its base to clean the pads. No dirt is actually contained in the bot, so a spinning pad bot has to spend a lot more time cleaning because it has to go back to its base more often to clean itself. The key to roller mops, or track mops, is how easy it is to clean the dirty water tank on the bot itself after it is done cleaning.. All bots except the Flow require that dirty, usually smelly tank to be manually cleaned after use. The Flow cleans itself by using a string motor and a back ush system. The Aqua 10 Roller when released had a leaking problem with its base design for some of its units. It also was designed with an undersized debris tank chute, so it clogged often. Some say those issues are fixed. What's not fixed is its short battery life and its loud operating noise. Mova is a sister company to Dreame, and its design seems to be much better. For my money though, I think the Flow is better. It's quieter, has longer battery life, is easier to clean and has a track mop which has more surface area scrubbing at all time. You could always try both the Flow and Z60 from Amazon since there is the extended return window. See which one works best for you

r/RobotVacuums • No carpet, all hardwoods, massive amounts of Bernese mtn dog fur. Any price, USA. ->
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howdoesthisworkfuck • 5 months ago

I think a standout feature of the Narwal that differs in real-world performance vs benchmark testing used by vacuum testing channels is that there is no restricted test parameters. So for example the narwal can sense if the area isnt clean yet and go back and clean it. So one pass over a dried stain might not be as good as another robot but if it goes back to finish and leaves a cleaner surface than a single pass during a typical mop session from a different vac, the end result is the narwal will leave the area cleaner. Now I'd perfect the smarts of the narwal paired with the best mopping capability naturally and I think the Narwal Flow will fill that niche but something I realized while doing far too much research on this is that benchmark testing doesnt tell the full story at all. It's like buying a dodge neon with a huge engine vs a porche with a slightly smaller but still big engine. Just a random musing while trying to decompress from too much research into buying a new vac lol

r/RobotVacuums • If money wasn’t an issue, what’s the best robot vacuum right now? ->
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howdoesthisworkfuck • 5 months ago

I think a standout feature of the Narwal that differs in real-world performance vs benchmark testing used by vacuum testing channels is that there is no restricted test parameters. So for example the narwal can sense if the area isnt clean yet and go back and clean it. So one pass over a dried stain might not be as good as another robot but if it goes back to finish and leaves a cleaner surface than a single pass during a typical mop session from a different vac, the end result is the narwal will leave the area cleaner. Now I'd perfect the smarts of the narwal paired with the best mopping capability naturally and I think the Narwal Flow will fill that niche but something I realized while doing far too much research on this is that benchmark testing doesnt tell the full story at all. It's like buying a dodge neon with a huge engine vs a porche with a slightly smaller but still big engine. Just a random musing while trying to decompress from too much research into buying a new vac lol

r/RobotVacuums • If money wasn’t an issue, what’s the best robot vacuum right now? ->
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howdoesthisworkfuck • 4 months ago

Flow, easy choice. Only improvements over the Z

r/RobotVacuums • Reddit Made Me Test the Narwal Flow Like THIS… Vacuum Chef ->
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howdoesthisworkfuck • 2 months ago

If noise is your priority, the Narwal Flow is by far the most quiet and pleasing sound to be around. The Aqua10 annoyed me greatly. Here is a comparison review I did of the two and I include a sound comparison. [https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nnmoi5/dreame\_aqua\_10\_ultra\_roller\_vs\_narwal\_flow\_ama/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nnmoi5/dreame_aqua_10_ultra_roller_vs_narwal_flow_ama/)

r/RobotVacuums • Which roller mop for 1st robot vacuum? ->
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howdoesthisworkfuck • 3 months ago

The Flow hands down against the Yeedi in regards to performance and quality. Price and budget is something only you can decide if its worth it.

r/RobotVacuums • Trying to decide between the yeedi M14 plus and the new narwal ->
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howdoesthisworkfuck • 2 months ago

The Narwal has much much better battery capacity and battery efficiency. It cleans more area per % by a large margin over the Aqua10.

r/RobotVacuums • Hands-on thoughts: Narwal Flow vs Dreame Aqua10 Ultra Roller ->
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howdoesthisworkfuck • 2 months ago

Not at all, the Aqua10 clogged twice in 3 days running the same floors daily as the Flow, the Narwal Flow hasn't clogged once in a month. Just be aware that if you check the dust bin after the Flow returns from cleaning it will still be full, it dries the dust bin after returning to the dock and only empties before it goes out for its next job. At first I thought this was odd but it actually works very well. Also its dust bin design is excellent with its pre-filter screen. The Aqua10's filter required cleaning after a week, the Flow lasted all month.

r/RobotVacuums • Narwal flow ->
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howdoesthisworkfuck • about 2 months ago

Honestly it's a pretty easy recommendation for your needs: [Narwal Flow ](https://amzn.to/3WgEytd). It handles pet hair great, some of the best mopping available right now (track style, excellent for tile) , no issues with carpet/rug vacuuming (as long as the rugs aren't pure/jet black), and handles thresholds. Very smart, great naviation and obstacle avoidance and very very good battery life. AND, its very quiet. I'm not sure there's another worth mentioning for your use case but the [MOVA Z60](https://amzn.to/46Z6ech) is a comparable flagship but for what you're needing it for I think the Flow would be a better option.

r/RobotVacuums • I am a prospective buyer, new to the scene and overwhelmed with options. Please help! ->
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howdoesthisworkfuck • 3 months ago

This is my review of the [Narwal Flow](https://amzn.to/4pShxu5) and [Dreame Aqua10 Ultra Roller](https://amzn.to/48X1HrY) *Last updated: 10/6/25 -- Updates throughout* *tld;dr -* ***Dreame Aqua10*** *has slightly better navigation and raw scrubbing power with the roller mop, vacuum easily clogs with dog hair and very poor battery life.* ***Narwal Flow*** *has a better vacuuming and mopping system, very efficient with water usage, quiet, great battery life and more refined. Narwal App runs much smoother, Dreame App has more granular settings.* ***Verdit: I prefer the Flow's package over the Aqua10. The Flow provides an all-around better, more refined experience with slightly less floor scrubbing power but still excellent mopping.*** # Intro I’ve had the Narwal Flow for a couple of weeks now, and I’m currently testing out the Dreame Aqua10 Ultra Roller. My plan is to see if the Dreame might be a good fit for a second space, rather than just picking up another Narwal Flow. So far, the Flow has been working really well and has been a huge upgrade from the Eufy X10 Pro Omni I was using before. My main focus on this test will be how it handles dog hair and mopping as these are the two main things I use my vacuum for. If anyone has questions or would like direct comparisons between the two, let me know and I’ll do my best to answer. I’m not a reviewer, I’m not sponsored, and I don’t have a bias toward either brand—just sharing my own experience. [Narwal Flow \(left\), Dreame Aqua10 Ultra Roller \(right\)](https://preview.redd.it/x5zb3yewrpqf1.png?width=1473&format=png&auto=webp&s=578c5107047457f7e76b921ce96694fcbc6f7df3) # Initial thoughts Both docks share an excellent build quality. The Dreame leans toward a sharper, more angular design for both the robot and dock, while the Narwal favors smooth, rounded edges that give it a sleeker look. The LIDAR tower on the Dreame raises and lowers with a louder motor than I expected—nothing problematic, just worth noting. The Dreame’s water tanks appear smaller at first glance, though their different shape makes a direct comparison less straightforward—I’ll need to confirm actual capacity later. At the moment, the Dreame is charging and updating firmware on both the dock and robot before starting its first mapping run. One noticeable difference is in the voice guidance. The Dreame’s prompts sound more natural, as though recorded by a native English speaker, while the Flow’s voice has the cadence of someone speaking English as a second language or perhaps AI translated. Both are understandable, but the Dreame’s voice is more natural. # Build Quality At first I was going to give this a tie but the more I use the Aqua10 the more little clunks, rattles and vibrations I hear from its operation. For example when it stops, it stops with a thud not smoothly. When turning, I'm not sure if its the wheels skipping or what but it makes a vibrating sound. The Aqua10's vacuum sound is very high pitched compared to the Flow which is more pleasant to have running in the same room. It seems like Narwal put a lot of effort into refining the experience of being around the vacuum. ***Verdict***:  **Narwal** for build quality. It's more refined and more pleasant to be around while its running. The Aqua10's fit, finish and materials are good. The dock is well made. But the sounds it makes while operating doesn't scream quality, it just screams. (okay a bit dramatic but here's a [video ](https://i.imgur.com/dVItzO5.mp4)of the difference). # Mapping/Map Editing [Mapping on the Dreame went smoothly](https://i.imgur.com/nxiz5kz.png), and it was able to identify all the rooms without issue. It did make some different choices [compared to the Flow](https://i.imgur.com/mJJa8q7.png) when defining walls. For example, the Flow mapped around a side table—recognizing it couldn’t pass under but still showing floor space behind it—while the Dreame treated that same table as a solid wall. Not a problem, just a difference in how each robot interprets obstacles. Merging and dividing rooms worked fine, with slightly different controls than the Narwal app. I didn’t find either approach better or worse, and both were easy to use. I am still searching for some of the map settings the Narwal app offers—those options may exist in the Dreame app, but the layout is different so I’m still exploring. I’m also trying to locate the equivalent of the Flow’s “meticulous” clean setting, which vacuums in tighter lines. It may be the “deep cleaning” option in the Dreame app, but I haven’t confirmed that yet. One issue I can confirm with the Narwal Flow is that it doesn't like Black rugs, it thinks they are the void of space and can get stuck on them thinking its floating. I was able to work around this by changing out my small dog water bowl rug to another but if you have large black areas rugs against a light colored flooring you might have trouble here. There have been firmware updates since I got rid of the black rug so I can't confirm/deny if its still an issue. Additional note, the Aqua10 also doesn't like black carpets so thats a wash between the two. The mapping drawback on the Narwal is that after you split a room, you can't use the split line to split it further, you have to split only full rooms. Not sure for the choice there but it does affect some users. It didnt bother me in how I have my rooms setup but worth nothing. ***Verdict***: No clear winner here, both have features the other does and doesn't have. Both provided a useable map that was easy to edit, divide and merge rooms. I am more used to the Narwal's app at this point so I still need to explore the Dreame one further. I like that the Narwal app updates the robot position quicker and more smoothly compared to the Dream but I liked that the Dreame provides options for bin emptying frequency even if it got clogged with a lot of hair. In general, the Narwal app is again more refined and runs smoother. The Dreame app has a lot of jitters and delays. # Vacuuming My initial impressions here aren’t great for the Aqua10. The Aqua10 [clogged](https://i.imgur.com/Sk5EI1D.png) [with](https://i.imgur.com/c9vyN7i.jpeg) [dog hair](https://i.imgur.com/89kw8ME.png) even with the high-frequency emptying setting [enabled](https://i.imgur.com/wo7ZoRa.png)—which was one of my main reasons for wanting this robot in the first place. [This](https://i.imgur.com/vzuXLzz.png) is the typical amount of dog hair on the floor before vacuuming. Not excessive but it was enough to clog the Dreame on a full house clean. Subsequent runs have been fine now but I would have hoped the frequent emptying would have caught this. **UPDATE**: Clogged again the following day. It really doesn't like dog hair. For reference, I have 1 German Shepherd and 1 Beagle. It looks like the clog happened pretty early because I found [crumbs](https://i.imgur.com/o5tZwq7.png) scattered throughout the house. The Narwal Flow ran into a similar situation on its first run but that was after multiple days of not being vacuumed and the Flow's case the dustbin simply filled up during a full house clean, the chute into the dustbin did clog like the Aqua10. The key difference that I can find is that the Aqua10’s opening into the dustbin is [noticeably smaller](https://i.imgur.com/01xsZxF.mp4), which makes it more prone to clogging. What’s disappointing is that the Flow doesn’t even offer mid-clean emptying, while the Aqua10 does—so in theory, this issue should have been avoided with that feature enabled. It’s also worth noting that I had the Aqua10 set to the **standard vacuuming mode**, not the deeper clean setting, which could have filled up even more. At first I was having an issue with Aqua10's edge cleaning but I was able to achieve tighter edge cleaning that matches the Narwal Flow with by changing the Auto-lifting LDS setting to Extreme coverage with Collison-Avoidance turned OFF. This allowed it to clean under the cabinets, the dishwasher and the edges of furniture as expected. With these settings turned On or set to Balanced, the Aqua10 avoided bumping into walls and furniture but has worse edge cleaning. ***Vacuuming Verdict***: **Narwal Flow** for a few reasons. First is sound: the Flow has a more [pleasant vacuuming and navigation tone](https://i.imgur.com/dVItzO5.mp4), staying noticeably less high-pitched than the Aqua10 across all suction levels. It also avoids the random clunks and vibrations the Aqua10 makes when stopping, turning or working out a path. In addition, the Flow vacuums much faster. In a small test room, the Flow finished in about 5 minutes compared to 8 minutes for the Aqua10. It uses far less battery batter than the Aqua10, by a large degree and has not clogged once. **UPDATE**: I am now calling vacuuming clearly for the Flow. There are two main reasons here. The first, is that the Aqua10 has now [clogged for the second ](https://i.imgur.com/WkfQ8fz.png)time with dog hair after being run multiple times a day over the last few days. In the weeks of running the Flow, it has never clogged. The second, is that the dust filter on the Aqua10 clogs up incredibly fast. I've had to clean the filter in the Flow once since I've had it, with the Aqua10 it's been every other day. The Flow's prefilter screen and dust bin drying really does help with this and a feature that's the Aqua10 would benefit from. # Mopping The weather and my dogs gave me a perfect natural [test area](https://i.imgur.com/kLuF5sM.jpeg) with a fresh patch of dried paw prints across the floor. To make the comparison fair, I set up each robot to mop side by side. **Aqua10 Update:** My initial mopping test was more interesting than expected. I thought this would be a clear win for the Flow, but the results required more testing. I wasn't able to get my initial test side by side like I wanted --one advantage with the Dreame app is that it shows where obstacles were detected on previous runs, making it easy to set up a spot-cleaning zone right where I wanted. The Narwal app, by contrast, smooths out the room map and only shows borders, so I wasn’t able to place the zone as precisely. For the test, I [ran the Aqua10](https://i.imgur.com/vSeNBRg.jpeg) on [medium moisture](https://i.imgur.com/9L5KaNS.jpeg) **with high pressure**. The [Narwal ran](https://i.imgur.com/zxIngoV.jpeg) in [Freo mode](https://i.imgur.com/UhSCWCi.mp4) **with the floor type set to Tile** (for what I assume is the highest pressure). The [Narwal left behind](https://i.imgur.com/dTwZDDz.jpeg) [dried mud](https://i.imgur.com/H1qG0Ay.jpeg), dirt, and sand embedded in the faux wood grain after a single pass, while the Aqua10 removed that debris in one pass. To confirm, I let the Aqua10 mop the section the Narwal had already attempted, and it [successfully removed](https://i.imgur.com/gmJKqoC.jpeg) what [was left](https://i.imgur.com/yEglcoa.mp4). Both sections were equally soiled to start, so I believe the Aqua10’s additional pressure really made the difference here. ***Mopping Verdict***: Needs more testing, the Aqua10 outperformed the Flow tonight on dried paw prints so in my personal scoreboard that's big points for me. I am running a deep clean now and will check on the dirty water tank, mop roller, tray and all that tomorrow to see how it faired. I'm leaning towards the Aqua10 for mopping at this time but things like water usage, roller condition, dock condition, on board dirty water tank, etc could influence this still. **Some Thoughts:** * This test is making me rethink **roller vs. track-style mops**. Track pads may still shine on smooth surfaces like tile, but rollers seem better at scrubbing textured surfaces such as faux wood grain. * I’m also seeing signs of **more advanced navigation** from the Aqua10. For example, it was able to tightly maneuver around my tricky bar stools—an area where most robots either get stuck or avoid entirely. * ~~For vacuum + mop runs, I suspect adjusting the~~ **~~room cleaning order~~** ~~will help with dog hair management. In my initial test, the robot tackled three dog-heavy rooms first, which overloaded it with hair. Spreading those rooms out should let the unit empty before hitting the next high-hair zone.~~ **This had no impact on clogging.** * The Aqua10’s **vacuum sound is still one of the harshest I’ve used**. Quiet Mode isn’t bad, but I’m not convinced it provides enough suction at that level. * The Narwal app has so many nice little features, for example during the clean it tells you everything its doing in each room, Dreame just has a full task status bar. I much prefer the Narwal and knowing what the robot is specifically up to. **UPDATE**: Upon investigating more, the Narwal is setting the cleaning strategy for "Low Moisture, Soft Pressure" for some tasks which may be why the mopping performance is so different. I am reaching out to Narwal to see how to adjust this. **UPDATE 2**: Narwal was unable to assist, claims it is always set to the highest pressure despite that not being the case with no way to manually set pressure. A shame because if the 12N is to be believed with the Flow, it would rival the Aqua10 in scrubbing power if applying max force but I have no way to trigger it to use that. I have seen where it shows "soft pressure" being applied when running in AI mode, I have not seen "hard pressure". I also haven't noticed much of a difference in the wetness levels with the Flow where they were very noticeable with the Aqua10. # Maintenance After a deep clean over night with the Aqua10 here is how things are looking: * Used up all the water, app notified that clean water tank was empty (I took a screenshot of this but forgot to save it, it shows up as a notification and in the Dock section of the Dreame app) * Dirty water looks [nice and dirty](https://i.imgur.com/y0248Tn.png) * Cleaning tray has a small amount of[ dog hair](https://i.imgur.com/yZW3T56.png) * Roller area is a [little dirty](https://i.imgur.com/eZK4pUD.jpeg) with [dog hair](https://i.imgur.com/Pnx0jRo.png) * Dirty Water tank on robot is [soiled](https://i.imgur.com/3XSCrXR.png) * Mop Roller after cleaning was still [dirty ](https://i.imgur.com/1yEZjjX.png)\-- **This is a big deal in my opinion, if its not even getting the roller clean in the base station, what in the world is being spread over the floors?** ***Impressions***: Normal drip tray soil, would be easy enough to clean. It looks like it picked up a good amount of dirt from the floor based on the water color. The floors themselves look great after the deep clean. The mop roller area definitely collected some hair and debris, everything was run as "Mop AFTER Vacuum". The fluffer looks like it works well, roll was not matted down. The onboard water tank had some dirty water/sand in it still. I'd love to pull apart the Flow to compare this but I cannot. Was not happy with how dirty the roller was after mopping. And it only mopped what was shown above, nothing crazy like spilled soy sauce. Just general foot traffic dirt. # Other I kicked off a kitchen clean today using the voice assistant "Ok Dreame, Clean the kitchen". It did good with this, it came and vacuumed the kitchen, went back to the dock to empty the dust bin and wash the mop roller. Finally it came back and mopped the kitchen. No issues to report here, responded quickly and easily to the "Ok Dreame" trigger. I liked that it was built into the robot and not through Google Home. From my understanding Narwal is getting the featured later as its currently in testing. Battery life has not been great so far with the Aqua10. I haven't been using battery friendly settings but it's not able to do a full house vac and then mop on one charge which is disappointing. Roughly 700sqft of cleaning area. If I end up keeping the Aqua10, a water hookup would be extremely ideal for this bot. I'd love to crank up the moisture even further and not worry about draining the onboard water tanks. # Final Thoughts Upon further testing, I believe there is a fundamental issue with the ducting on the Aqua10 (and MOVA Z60 for that matter). They seem to have achieved their suction rating by narrowing the air duct where debris pulls into the dust bin and because of this it gets clogged easily with dog hair. This is showing up in testing on YouTube as well. I would be highly cautious with the Aqua10/MOVA Z60 if you have pets. It's just a poor dust bin design all around. The Narwal Flow did not experience any clogs like this. For floor scrubbing, the Aqua10 beat out the Narwal Flow, either through pressure or wetness. I wish I could replicate that with the Flow but even 3x passes on meticulous pathing and wettest setting the Flow still couldn't get the dirt out of faux wood grain like the Aqua10 could. However, since it cannot keep up with dog hair without clogging, (clogged twice in 3 days), I had no choice but to return the Aqua10.

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howdoesthisworkfuck • 3 months ago

So far... **App - Narwal**, smoother and less lag, real-time robot location while moving. Dreame app has some hitches like when you tap a room for cleaning, if you tap too soon after doing something else it will select the room then deselect it. This caused me to start a "full house" clean instead of a selected room clean more than once. I am using an iPhone 16 Pro for reference. **Aesthetic - Tied**, I like both styles and they are very different from one another. **Build Quality** \- At first I was going to give this a tie but the more I use the Aqua10 the more little clunks, buzzing and vibrations I hear from its operation. For example when it stops, it stops with a thud not smoothly. When turning, I'm not sure if its the wheels skipping or what but it makes a vibrating sound. The vacuum sound itself is very high pitched as well. It seems like Narwal put a lot of effort into refining the experience of being around the vacuum. At this point I'm leaning towards **Narwal** for build quality. They both seem like sturdy robots built with quality components. **Vacuuming** \- If we're going by raw performance, they are basically tied with the Narwal being a little more aggressive in edge cleaning. Both do really well "mid-lane" where its just vacuuming with no edges or obstacles. If you needed something for just vacuuming, I don't see any advantage over the Flow with the Aqua10. The Flow gets into edges better by going closer to them, even with Aqua10 side brush. The Flow is also slightly shorter so its able to get under things easier. It's not much shorter but every MM counts when trying to squeeze under appliances and furniture. If you aren't going to be in the same room while they are cleaning then either would be a good choice. If you plan to use it in the same room or at night, I'd probably not recommend the Aqua10 for its higher pitched vacuuming sound **Mopping** \- I plan to test this soon, letting the dogs settle down so I can have an obstacle free test area filled with wonderful dry paw prints to mop up. I'm really interested in this text because its by far the main reason I wanted a good mopping robot. I may be able to forgiven some of the Narwal perks if the Aqua10 mops better. **Edit**: Mopping has been a huge surprise and I'm almost certainly calling this for the Aqua10.

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howdoesthisworkfuck • 3 months ago

It looks like I'll be returning the Aqua10. I was able to get it setup in a way I was happy but I woke up to a other dog hair clog. In the weeks with the Flow I never had a clog. I know I mentioned it a lot, but I don’t have that much dog hair that it should be clogging a robot vacuum. I really think that the dustbin opening is just too small.

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howdoesthisworkfuck • 3 months ago

Yeah it's a nice robot for sure, this morning I woke to another dog hair clog though so this just might not work for me. 3 weeks with the Flow and it never clogged.

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howdoesthisworkfuck • 2 months ago

I'll tell you the more the spend the more critical I am. I've tried the latest flagships and returned them for one reason or another. Not sure if it's the design needed to fit all the fancy tech but they are just worse for pet hair. I'm current trying a Eufy E25, while it isn't perfect, flagships are certainly not +$500 better. I love it's big dust bin and hasn't clogged with shpherd hair yet. If anything it has me hyped for the Eufy S2. If I had to recommend a flagship at this point the only one would be the Narwal Flow. Excellent all around except for mopping pressure and moisture. I wish you could crank those up some and it would be perfect.

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howdoesthisworkfuck • 21 days ago

Funny I had a similar experience with Mova and eufy but no problems with the flow

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missgriffindor • 2 months ago

I can’t get ours to work at ALL. We have the compact version and it doesn’t drain. We have sent it back and the replacement also doesn’t drain. I’m considering just returning it because its been a month of bs

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musician1023 • 2 months ago

Oh my god after hours of poking at the compact version we figured out how to get it working. THANK YOU for the pump tips. We also figured out that it matters if the intake/out is pointing outwards from the base station actually matters so much to the point that if it’s pointing in at all it won’t run. It’s such a design flaw but I’m so glad we figured that out.

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NervousCaptain • about 2 months ago

Narwal Flow in our house goes over a threshold the same size. It raises it's body a bit and drives over it

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NervousCaptain • 3 months ago

Thank you for doing this! I'd be interested in edge/drop prevention comparison if possible. Loved the Flow, but it did drive off an edge for stairs landing (8 inch drop) when it tried to update the house map with a "new" room it didn't see on first map-build. Worked with support and they suggested adding a no-go to ensure it doesnt get as close, which did seem to work.

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NervousCaptain • about 2 months ago

Narwal Flow is so quiet I thought it wasn't working

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

I just wrote a super detailed post on this topic you can check my profile for the full thing but TL;DR >Real-time rollers/tracks look great in ads, but that’s mostly marketing theater. >For daily use, spinning pads are more than enough to maintain a base level of clean. >Tracks/rollers use more way more water, are louder, and need more maintenance. >Unless you’re constantly dealing with wet messes, they’re overkill. >Spinning pads remain the most practical choice for most homes Also not sure where you're seeing positive mentions about roomba, but avoid them entirely. Yeedi is a sub brand of ecovacs - its their budget line. They have some great value robots their but the value king robot right now is the Mova P10 Pro Ultra (not available in the eu) Eufy is fine but you wont find a lot of their products at the top of any rankings lists and their rolling mops have issues with the dirty water tank leaking. YMMV Right now id say Roborock, Dreame, Narwal and Mova are the best brands to choose from at this current moment. Knowing your region and budget would help with a recommendation. If you want a mopping first robot the Narwal flow at $1099 (track mop) is looking really nice. Probably the best mopper you can get at the moment. Only downside is that thing chugs water. Ecovacs robots have really good mopping scores as well but its hard to recommend them because they seem to have weird issues with the app and getting them to work right. If you can figure that out they are a good option. Besides that The Qrevo S5v is also a really highly rated mopper Best overall robot right now is the Mova V50 pro ultra at $1099

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

First one i've seen is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NnNX3s7f98&ab_channel=TheFrenchGlow TL;DR – After 30+ full-house runs, reviewer says the Narwhal Flow is the first robo-vac that actually mops like a wet/dry vacuum instead of just smearing dirt around. Key points: * Uses a track mop with continuous clean water + dirty water extraction, so clean/dirty never mix. * Can handle tough messes (maple syrup, chocolate milk, whipped cream) in one pass. * AI obstacle detection is solid, avoids cords better than competitors, and can adjust brush/suction speed for debris. * Cleans and dries its mop/roller with hot water until rinse water runs clear, reducing odor/bacteria. * App lets you customize vacuum/mop modes, humidity, carpet cleaning, and AI behavior per room. * Great edge cleaning with extendable roller, but can’t fully get into corners (geometry limitation). * Downsides: no auto-soap dispenser, mopping system takes space inside unit, occasional AI “confusion” if sensors are dirty/wet. * Verdict: Beats Roborock, Dreame, and iRobot for mopping - closest thing yet to a robotic wet/dry mop.

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Thirtysixx • 3 months ago

I disagree with your conclusion. The side-brush lift issue is an edge case, and it doesn’t change the fundamentals: 1. Spinning mops are bad at wet spills. They don’t remove liquid effectively; they smear it. In real use they need 4–6 passes and still leave residue. That’s not “better”—it’s just prolonging a mess. 2. Rolling & track mops can handle wet spills—but that’s the exception, not the rule. If there’s any format that can cope, it’s the rolling/roller style. Spinning mops simply don’t have the mechanics to pick up liquid without spreading it around. 3. Side-brush lift is a minor concern compared to the bigger risk. Even if a side brush gets wet/dirty, the larger problem with using any robot on a spill is liquid getting sucked into the dustbin and then into the base. That’s how you end up with spoiled milk/ketchup/soy sauce in the bin and dock—smell, mold, and an impossible to clean. This risk doesn’t go regardless of what mop style you use 4. “Spill detection” isn’t a safety net. Robots that claim to detect spills and auto-stop suction or lift brushes are inconsistent in practice. I’ve yet to see it work reliably enough to trust around actual liquids. You’re still gambling with your dustbin and dock. 5. Bottom line: don’t use a robot for wet spills. YouTube demos make it look fine, but they’re wrecking machines on camera. Wet messes belong to paper towels and a proper mop, not a vacuum/dock system with a dustbin and intake. So no—choosing a spinning mop for a wet spill because a rolling system doesn’t lift its side brush doesn’t make sense. The spinning mop will still do a worse job on the liquid and increases the chance of smearing it everywhere, and any robot risks sucking that liquid into the bin. It’s inefficient, risky, and not what these machines are built for. # Do not clean wet spills with your robot regardless of style # Do manual cleanup, then let the robot handle the dry maintenance pass > there’s no way for you to use detergent Incorrect. It doesn’t have an auto detergent dispenser but you can put detergent directly in the tank. Barrel recommends it and it is in the manual. I agree with 2 of your points. The side brush should be extending/lifting and the robot should be have auto detergent dispensing at this price point. But you are incorrect about everything else

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Thirtysixx • 3 months ago

>Not all roller and track mops actually pick up liquids into the dirty water tank, like the Ecovacs Omni X8 and X9 im talking about generalities sure, but specifically with the Narwal. It does. Just a dad got a defective unit mostly likely I have seen plenty of X9 reviews where it cleans just fine. Ecovacs, has way bigger issues that that # Regardless, dont clean wet messes with your robot no matter. >Spill detection doesn’t need to be a safety net and it is not inconsistent. It’s actually more efficient to separate the vacuuming and the mopping instead of having the robot do both at once. # Doesn't matter, dont clean wet messes with your robot. >The auto refill and drainage system does not let you add detergent because it does not have a water tank. It directly connects to plumbing You are mistaken. In the base version, you can definitely add detergent to the clean water tank manually. Narwal specifically in their manual recommends adding 3ml of solution to the clean water tank. The plumbed in version does come with a detergent tank, so you just need to keep the detergent tank filled, and it will automatically add detergent to the robot when it fills. See here: [https://support.narwal.com/hc/en-us/articles/38635987444493-Does-Narwal-Flow-Support-Automatic-Detergent-Dispensing-Narwal-Flow](https://support.narwal.com/hc/en-us/articles/38635987444493-Does-Narwal-Flow-Support-Automatic-Detergent-Dispensing-Narwal-Flow) >Basic Dock version It requires manual detergent refills. For a full tank of water, follow these ratios when adding detergent: ● Small detergent bottle (200ml): Add 1–3 capfuls, depending on how dirty your floors are. ● Large detergent bottle (930ml): Add 1 capful. >Compact Dock version It features a built-in main detergent reservoir.  During initial setup, manually fill the reservoir with cleaning detergent. The system will thereafter auto-dispense detergent. When detergent is depleted, the app will notify you to replenish. You can even see here that BOTH versions COME with detergent in the box: [https://support.narwal.com/hc/en-us/articles/38232199974285-What-s-in-the-Box-Flow](https://support.narwal.com/hc/en-us/articles/38232199974285-What-s-in-the-Box-Flow) >You can’t even clean the internal dirty water tank which is another issue.  The Narwal flow self cleans its dirty water tank during its self cleaning phase, so this is not an issue. Chinese reviewers have already done full tear downs of this robot and confirmed that the self cleaning cycle does a very good job at cleaning the onboard dirty water tank. To me, this is a superior solution. Having to manually clean a dirty water tank is knock on rollers/mops to me because I dont want MORE manual maintenance, and this gets rid of one of the biggest pieces of regular maintenance. Here's where I agree with. At this price point, the side brushes SHOULD lift and it SHOULD have auto detergent filling. If those are deal breakers for you, then fine. You can choose a robot that better suits your needs. Those are not deal breakers for me because: * I dont clean wet messes with my robot, so I don't care about that. And you shouldn't either. No one should. What you see in youtube stress tests is not how you should be treating your robot. * I can add detergent to the clean tank manually, it's not that big of a deal to me. Buy what you want. I dont really care.

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

Narwal Flow is probably the best mopping robot out right now. I’d look at that. It’s on presale right now for $1099 The only thing with the flow is it uses a ton of water, so if you have the space and willingness to do it, the plumbed in version is probably the way to go. If you don’t mind refilling the tank with water and floor cleaner in the base version more often then that works too. But you don’t need $1500 to get the good performance you are looking for fyi.

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

The Narwal Flow has been out in asia for a long time. Use google translate in chrome browser here: https://blog.naver.com/roboticsnugget/223895959529 part.1 https://blog.naver.com/roboticsnugget/223897327563 part.2 This was really helpful in depth review comparing it to the Dreame X50. There's just no way any part of a cat is getting sucked up into any of these vacuums. They arent that strong or big enough. Cats and people are very easy for these machines to recognize. They're big compared to the things they struggle with, like cords. You dont need to worry about this. Beyond that though my cat just ignores and runs away when it gets close anyways The Narwal notoriously uses a ton of water, so if you dont want to want to be refilling constantly then you might choose something different. I dont know if you're dead set on this price range but right now you can get the Mova V50 cheaper than than the Narwal flow with code USLIVEONLY50 for $50 off through movas website. It has Lidar+RGB and its the better vacuum of the 2 unless you're dead set on a rolling mop. and Mova vacuums do specifically have pet recognition which is fun. It does recognize pets, but since it has a camera, it records a .gif of your pet interacting with it and sends it to your phone lol I use a Mova P10 Pro Ultra in 1950 square feet, half my house every day and I need to replace the water once a week. Your house is smaller, so you might need to refill less depending on how much you mop

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

If you’re deciding between these, I’d skip the Eufy S1 Pro. A few reasons: The S2 is coming out soon The dirty water tank tends to leak It’s over a year old, and there are better/cheaper options now The Narwhal Flow looks great, but it has some flaws if edge cleaning matters to you. Since they didn’t go with a swing-out brush, the design tends to fling dirt around instead of pulling it in (check Jamie Andrews’ recent video on this). It especially pushes dirt behind the vacuum, where it doesn’t get picked up again. On top of that, track and roller mops (even if they extend) just aren’t great at edge cleaning. If edge cleaning is a priority, I’d look at the Mova P50 or V50. Swing-out mop pads + brush arms will always beat extending tracks/rollers here. P50 → Strong value at ~$600, but front wheel issues are common. If you get a good unit, it’s fantastic for the price. If you get a bad one, you’ll be stuck dealing with the wheel. If oyu choose this one then make sure you order from amazon since they will take your return with no questions asked V50 → $1,099, more expensive but also the best overall vacuum right now, def top 2. So bottom line: Skip the S1 Pro. Narwhal Flow = great, but poor edge cleaning. If edge cleaning is important → P50 (better value but risky) or V50 (expensive but less manufacturing defects). Hope that helps!

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

For mopping specifically probably the Narwal flow but you really don’t need to spend that much to get good mopping. Unless you’re cleaning up big dirty messes constantly spinning mops and roller mops perform about the say in general use. Remember these mops should be going everyday or every other so your house should really never been getting that dirty.

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

I agree but the flow is supposed to have a self cleaning dirty water tank which most other rollers dont. Not being able to see it or check how clean it is tho might be concerning

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

It does, it detects when the bin is empty and goes back mid run. Vacuum Chef confirmed that in the comments of his review

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

I’m surprised by VacuumNerds review, because it shows a misunderstanding of how the spinning side brushes actually work. He demonstrates them while stationary, and says they don’t extended to the corners but that’s not how they function—when the robot reaches a corner, the brush reverses, which swings the extended arm out to reach the edge. The fact that he’s had the unit for five months and didn’t notice this is concerning. On top of that, the side brush in his video appears to be broken. Not a good look if that breaks easily for narwal though I’ll admit. Not a great review here misunderstanding one of the key innovations on this robot

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

What timestamp are you referring to? I didn’t see him demonstrate that at any point. At the end, he actually shows that his orange brush is broken—and that’s the brush on the right side that’s supposed to extend when the robot reverses. Even if he had tried to show it, it wouldn’t have worked with a broken brush. And when he pushes the robot into the corner, he’s using the left brush, which isn’t the one designed to extend. I’ve watched just about every review on this robot, and his is the only one where this issue shows up. The design does work and it reaches into corners. The real drawback, in my opinion, is that since the brush spins in the opposite direction, it sometimes flicks dirt behind the robot or out to the left—often into spots it’s already cleaned and won’t revisit. You can see that in a few other reviews, i think in Jamie Andrews’. But overall, it’s still a clever solution to corner cleaning that you wouldn't know from Vacuum Nerds review.

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

I agree with that also. Saw some reviews where it was flinging dirty behind the robot since it spun the brush backwards. That’s a problem because if there is dirt in the path of where the robot already came from, it’s going not going to clean it until the next run.

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

Happy to provide some feedback, I really liked your review. Only a couple things come to mind. You talked about the corner cleaning performance, but you never SHOWED it. You talked about how the brush reverses in corners, but never gave us a top down shot of that in action. You showed the corner cleaning from the underside, but that's not entirely helpful. My other suggestion would be understanding the common complaints with roller and track mops, and talking about those typical deficiencies with this model. For example the common reasons people are still choose spinning mops of track mops: >Maintenance – You’ll be tearing down scrapers, waste tanks, and rollers weekly. More moving parts = more cleaning for you. >Mop odor – If the drying system doesn’t fully work, bacteria build up inside. Track/roller systems trap more moisture, so smell creeps in faster than with open spinning pads. >Noise – They’re louder. The motors work harder under load, and you notice it right away compared to spinning systems. >Water use – This one’s huge. Real-time rollers/tracks chew through a lot of water. Without plumbing, you’ll be refilling tanks basically daily, or every other day at best. Expect water usage far higher than spinning pad systems. >Edge cleaning – The mop frames mean they don’t fully hit corners or walls. Spinning pads can hug the edge better. >Power draw – Bigger batteries, more complexity, more heat, which ties into the seventh point >Failure rate – Scrapers clog, motors strain, sludge builds up in parts you can’t reach. Over time, that means higher failure risk. You addressed a few of these, and some are near impossible to test, like the failure rate etc. But some of these would be great to get someone covering. Particularly the battery life. How much square footage could you clean on a full charge in vacuum mode or mop mode? How often were you refilling the water tanks? Did the roller get fully dry between washes? How much of the tank did it use to do a whole house mopping? This would help me choose between the base version and the plumbed in version.

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

Not sure why, they didn’t understand a key feature of this robot and are arguing in the comments about it with people that are saying they got it wrong.

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Thirtysixx • 2 months ago

Go with the Flow. Aqua 10 has so many issues but mainly it leaks. The narwal flow comes in a version with the base station that has a plumbing connection and that version has an auto detergent dispensing tank as well even further reducing the maintenance. The normal base station does not have that feature.

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Thirtysixx • about 2 months ago

It’s going to be a problem for any robot as they don’t do well with water getting sucked inside the robot. If you can mop first it might be okay, but not ideal obviously to mop first because the debris will get stuck in the mops etc. If you are dealing with constant wet spills you will want something like the narwal flow that has track mop. Those can pick up water without just spreading puddles around.

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

Spinning mops are probably the better option, but neither type is great if you’re trying to avoid streaks. If streak-free is your priority, you’ll want to look at a rolling or track mop from another brand. With spinning mops, streaks are hard to notice on vinyl plank or wood floors, but on white tile (like in my bathroom) you can definitely see them once the solution dries. It doesn’t bother me personally, but if that’s a concern for you, I wouldn’t go with a spinning mop. A rolling or track mop would be the better choice. Something like the Narwal Flow is probably your best bet if you want true streak-free cleaning. Both the 10 and 10R mop just fine, and neither is going to scratch your floors. On white glossy tile, though, you’ll probably notice streaks with both. That said, the spinning mop on the X tends to leave more streaks than the vibrating mop pad, just cause its 2 pads vs one big one

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

If you can find the Mova V50 Ultra in your price range, I think that’s the obvious choice here. Right now, it’s the best robot vacuum/mop on the market, in my opinion. I believe it’s listed at $1,099 on Mova’s website, and if that fits your budget, it’s easily the one I’d go for. I would avoid anything from Eufy at the moment—especially the S1 Pro—because of ongoing dirty water tank leaking issues. Even after sending out replacement tanks, there are still plenty of reports of the new ones leaking, so I’d steer clear for now. As for mop type, I don’t think roller mops are worth the premium or the extra maintenance they require. They’re more work to keep clean, and they tend to have worse edge and corner cleaning. If you have spinning mops running daily or every other day to maintain a baseline of cleanliness, you don’t need the extra “scrubbing power” that roller mops offer. That extra power only really matters for big, wet messes—which 99% of households don’t deal with regularly—and even if you do, I think it’s a bad idea to have a robot clean those kinds of messes. Don’t be swayed by the extreme stress tests you see YouTubers doing; they’re not realistic for normal homes. For most people, spinning mop pads are more than enough, and the Mova V50 Ultra gives you that in the best flagship package out there—at a lower price than the other top-tier robots. If you’re really set on a rolling mop, I’d still avoid Eufy (as mentioned) and also avoid Ecovacs’ rollers, since they’ve had their own issues. The Narwal Flow is probably the best option in that category. It uses a track-style mop, which is, as far as I know, the only track-style mop available in North America—and it’s notably superior to a standard roller. It does have trade-offs: no extending side brush and no automatic solution-dispensing tank, so you have to add cleaning solution to the water manually. Apparently, an upgrade is capable for that, but who knows when or if it will actually happen. If you can get the Narwal Flow with the plumbed-in option and have the space to hardwire it into your plumbing, it’s a fantastic choice. You still don’t get the extending side brush, but you do get the solution tank on that version, plus you’ll have much less maintenance compared to other roller mops—no swapping dirty and clean water tanks—and it’s supposed to have a self-cleaning dirty water tank. How well that works remains to be seen, but it does reduce a lot of the maintenance burden that comes with other roller mops .

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

I specifically said the brush. The roller mop extends but the brush doesn't swing out. They just put longer bristles to try and handle corners. As with all the roller mops they cant get corners at all, that's just a geometry issue. They will never get edges and corners as good as spinning mop pads You can see [in this review](https://youtu.be/U4ud6Boz6T0?si=Z0w1ZOB5X6zIHCJ3&t=233) the Narwal Flow relies on a brush with longer bristles to extend when the brush spins the opposite direction in the corner. Clever design but as in the video you can see it doesn't work every time.

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Thirtysixx • 4 months ago

I haven’t seen any glaring issues with it in the reviews I’ve seen.

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Turbulent-Job1987 • about 2 months ago

In my opinion, if you don't put Narwal flow on that list, you are either dishonest or incompetent.

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Turbulent-Job1987 • about 2 months ago

However, it seems to me that it is one of the models with the least problems also highlighted on Reddit despite the fact that they have sold so many that they have run out of stock

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Turbulent-Job1987 • 3 months ago

No one mentions the narwal flow but it is a gem in both areas, washing and obstacle avoidance.

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Turbulent-Job1987 • 3 months ago

I don't know how the dreame has it but I find the position of the orbital wheel of the narwal brilliant. Having it behind and therefore in the position following vacuuming and washing, it is always clean, it does not fill with dust which slowly becomes rubber. It's a detail but from my point of view it is also appreciable in terms of maintenance

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Turbulent-Job1987 • 3 months ago

Those of other robots also get dirty, because they get dirty during cleaning, not on ketchup as you see in the absurd videos you find online. However it doesn't lift them but when they are closed it's as if they were raised. Honestly I care and it makes a lot more difference that it has 2 instead of one with a useless motor that lifts it if the AI ​​recognizes something

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24Fr3way • 3 months ago

I’m in a similar boat (US based) with extensive hardwood floors and scattered low pile area rugs. 2 young children and plenty of long hair to vacuum. Bought the S1 Pro in 11/2024 - clearly outdated by the robot vac/mop updated by all brands in 2025. Hands-off and accurate navigation, thorough maintenance mopping (not 3 day old ketchup as the marketing tests love), and corner/edge vacuuming are the biggest priorities. I’m ordering the MOVA Z60 for the 9/16 release - $1199 w/ 3 yr warranty is attractive. Don’t think the price will be lower than that even w/ Black Friday/Christmas. I’m tempted by the Eufy S2 Pro as well - the water ionization is honestly more a gimmick, and the seemingly similar large dirty water tank is still there - and it’s my least favorite thing about the S1. But the vacuum tech is upgraded in addition to extending side brush. Narwal Flow I think is also a reasonable option - but the fact that they will likely release the upgraded version after 1/2026 makes me hesitant. The pre-order for $1090 w/ 3 yr warranty and extra accessories pack was a steal though.

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24Fr3way • 3 months ago

FWIW - I have the MOVA V50 as well (in addition to an S1 Pro). GREAT robot vac/mop albeit w/ extendable spinning pads. Mapping/navigation for me has been excellent. The battery drainage is suboptimal but manageable - I’ve heard the Z60 does a better job w/ battery consumption. As for the Z60, I’m not picky about a self-cleaning dirty water tank especially if it’s small, removable, and easy to access (rear of Z60). I also prefer the retractable/extending LIDAR format of the Dreame/MOVA brands over the Narwal Flow. The Flow seems like a good robot esp w/ the track style, just not sure in my reality of 2-3 scheduled mop sessions weekly that the track will outperform the roller to any notable degree. The track pads (Dreame/MOVA) have been implemented and marketed heavily in Asian markets as well, where I’m sure there’s generally more tiled and hard flooring (vs. carpets, hardwood, and engineered hard floors common in the US market).

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