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Qrevo S
Reliable, great mopping (lifts pads), but poor cable avoidance.

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Are you a reviewer? I really thought your Flow Vs Aqua 10 Roller was one of the better reviews I've read. You know, like you I was torn between the Flow and the Aqua 10 when it was thought the Pro Track was getting released in the States. Im glad i made the right choice with the Flow. I've wondered how you could also get a Aqua 10 and Z60 after you had a Flow. Now you've also got an X11. Either your house is a mansion or you like testing bots. If i had the bank roll, id do it too. If you are a reviewer, that's good. You do good work if the Flow/Aqua review represents how you work.
I don't know about the 10R; never ran it. I'll say my Flow does great on hard floors, doesn't jam with heavy debris and is simple to clean. Roborock seems to be the industry leader, but i have no complaints on my Narwal and I think it is a great value for the price.
I have 1700 sqft mostly marble and hardwood on my main floor. I've had my Narwal Flow since the end of August doing multiple cleanings weekly. I have 2 dogs and multiple rugs. I have the basic base station so I do have to fill and empty the tanks. The Flow looks like it has the biggest clean and dirty tanks (5L each) of the flagship track/roller units out right now, so though it uses a fair bit of water, the tanks are big so I dont need to deal with them every time I clean. The dirty tank on the bot is self cleaning, so I never have to wash it out. The landing pad in the base station is easy to pull out and clean (I do it every other week). It seems to be the quietest out right now with one of the longest lasting batteries. I usually clean in the middle of the night when everyone is sleeping upstairs. The con i think is the app is not as adjustable as say Dreame, Mova or Roborock. With hard surfaces, I'd recommend doing a track or roller bot. Some say those type of bots are harder to clean and more complex. My Flow is easy.
I agree with u/FarConcern2308 that if you have the right bot you dont have to clean often. I have a Narwal Flow, and I clean the base once a month after running it 3 times a week on 1500 sqft of mostly marble and wood with two dogs. The Flow is unique in that you dont have to clean the onboard trash tank - that is cleaned automatically with an installed spinning motor with a backlash process. The landing dock in the base is also fully removable so you dont have to reach in to clean the dock at all. I think one of the biggest pluses of the Flow is the cleaning requirements, or lack there of.
I would buy a Narwal Flow or Mova Z60 through Amazon right now. They have an extended return policy in effect so you would have longer than 30 days to try something out to see if it works for your situation. I have the Flow and love it (using it since August). People are also very complimentary of the Z60. There has been some people liking the Ecovacs X11, but the mapping sounds slow and the app may not be as good. I'd stay away from the Dreame Aqua 10 Roller as there have been design flaws, though some say they are fixed now. The reason I recommend those bots is because they use track or roller mops. For hard surfaces, it just seems to be a better system, though some may argue that the spinner mops are better because they are simpler. The cleaning results with the track or roller mops are just more thorough. The Flow would be the quietest with a long battery life and a very minimal base cleaning requirement. The Mova has more down pressure with their roller, so cleaning in creavases would be better. The Flow has a track mop so the cleaning dwell time is longer since there is more of the mop surface area cleaning at any one time. What ever you decide, go through Amazon right now to take advantage of the extended return window.
Roller mops, and similar but not the same track mops, actually clean themselves as they work and collect the dirty water in an onboard tank. They are much more efficient at cleaning then because they collect much more dirt over spinning pads. Once a pad is saturated by dirt, it just moves the remaining dirt on the floor around, until it goes back to its base to clean the pads. No dirt is actually contained in the bot, so a spinning pad bot has to spend a lot more time cleaning because it has to go back to its base more often to clean itself. The key to roller mops, or track mops, is how easy it is to clean the dirty water tank on the bot itself after it is done cleaning.. All bots except the Flow require that dirty, usually smelly tank to be manually cleaned after use. The Flow cleans itself by using a string motor and a back ush system. The Aqua 10 Roller when released had a leaking problem with its base design for some of its units. It also was designed with an undersized debris tank chute, so it clogged often. Some say those issues are fixed. What's not fixed is its short battery life and its loud operating noise. Mova is a sister company to Dreame, and its design seems to be much better. For my money though, I think the Flow is better. It's quieter, has longer battery life, is easier to clean and has a track mop which has more surface area scrubbing at all time. You could always try both the Flow and Z60 from Amazon since there is the extended return window. See which one works best for you
Here's my Flow catching my boy Finny in the act. https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/2cIhcdZeMS But honestly, I think all bots have trouble depending on the floor background where the poop lies. In this instance, the contrast of the poop was great enough against my wood floor. Same thing happened on a brownish carpet, maybe it wouldn't have seen it. I wouldn't trust any bot on finding poop 100% of the time. The tech isn't there yet. If your access statement is about black carpet, that has been fixed by FW updates. Here's the work around I had originally, which i dont have to do now. https://www.reddit.com/r/NARWAL/s/Sa5GhDlfGw
You should consider the Narwal Flow. One of the quietest on the market, with a track not roller mop . It has one of the longest battery charge lives, and its the only one that doesn't require the onboard dirty water tank to be manually cleaned. I've had it for three months, mostly used on my 1500 sqft downstairs with majority wood and marble. I run it 3 times a week at 4 am with a wife and 2 dogs. No one wakes up and the floors are immaculate. Grout in my marble section is shallow/medium deapth. And, buy through Amazon just in case you don't like it. Extended return window. Finally, Matter has been delayed. It was supposed to be active this month, but Narwal has pushed it into 2026.
My issue was a black rug issue. I have a 4X6 rug in my entry way that is deep black and white. The bot would stop on that carpet because it registered it as a cliff. I found a work around that allowed the bot to not stop on that rug and still clean it, but it was initially frustrating. There have been FW updates that have fixed that problem for my type of situation. However, I've heard others still have a problem with black carpet. The issue isn't with the fall sensors, it is the dual RGB cameras, or more specifically, the computer logic apply to the camera data. If you have black carpet, you certainly want to make sure your Flow works on it during the return period.
Narwal Flow extends its track mop and is the only bot that self cleeans its onboard dirty tank (140 ml). I've run it for 4 months and no smell and no manuel tank cleaning.
Flow easiest to maintain and quietest. X11 best vac. Z60 best downpressure for deep groves. I have the Flow for 4 months and happy with the performance. Would buy again over any competative bots.
It's 95 mm tall so it gets under all of my cabinets and couches. When the bot reaches a 90-degree corner, it reverses the side broom, which then, through a centrifugal design, extends its reach to the full corner. It works very well, and it's simpler than a motorized extension. The mopping has been terrific for me. That said, you are so close to actually seeing the S2 at CES, and probably available to order soon after, I would just wait to see how it looks. Regardless, maintenance will be easier with the Flow because you don't have to clean the onboard dirty tank ever. The S2 is a manual clean for that onboard tank.
I came from Roombas that only used VSLAM and bumpers. The tech is so much greater now. I think that is a Narwal. I have the Narwl Flow and it does the same type of navigation, which is fantastic. I really like the Narwal design. But, I've watched enough reviews to know many of the really good bots out right now have this level of navigation. It's fascinating how advanced they're getting
So I have a dog that hates the stand-up vacuum we have, but is totally indifferent to my Flow. I think your cat would not be bothered after an acquaintance period. Mine has caught my boy pooping in my dining room before. Very embarrassing for him, but like I'm sure everyone else would say, don't trust the bot's ability to find poop/vomit all the time. Regardless of the bot, the tech is not foolproof yet. My Flow is the best self-cleaner you can get right now. You never have to clean the onboard dirty tank, which is unique to the Flow. All other track/rollers require that tank to be cleaned manually. Now the loading tray in the dock does require cleaning. I do it once a month, and I clean 3x week. I've had my Flow for 5 months. Obstacle avoidance is good, bordering on great. I won't say it will never lightly bump a chair leg, but it doesn't do it often. And I think that's the big Flow 2 upgrade. The very good obstacle avoidance should be even better with the Flow 2. Auto-dosing is not available on the Flow basic dock. It is standard on the plumbed version of the Flow. It is also standard on the Flow 2 basic dock. There is a chorus of people who think not having auto-dosing detergent on the Flow basic dock was a mistake, but honestly, it takes a second to squirt soap into the clean-water tank when you're filling it. You're already filling up the tank, so that extra second is a pretty silly hill to die on. It dries the bag, so anything wet collected by the vacuum doesn't mold inside. Depending on the level of debris in your house, the bag can last several months before you replace it.
I used to run iRobot. Really no comparison; the Flow is light years ahead in cleaning and navigation. The corner reach design works perfectly for me. Some prefer the mechanical arm reach, but the Flow gets everything out of my corners with a much simpler design. I dont worry that the design will break over time because it is only a reversible motor
Oh, wait you were talking about soap. They will say only use theirs, but I'm going to use other cheaper stuff when I run out. You just have to make sure it is low foam. I think the stuff for Shark is cheaper, and that's what I'll use probably
It is constantly ignored, but the Narwal Flow is exactly the same clean requirement as a spinner, only has all the benefits of a track/mop as far as cleaning. What people say is there is much more cleaning/maintenance on the track/rollers, usually because the onbaord dirty water tank needs regular cleaning. The Flow is self cleaning that tank. Five months in with the Flow and never manually cleaned that tank and it has never smelled once. It also doesn't have a fluffer, which needs regular cleaning. You do need to clean the landing tray, but that's the same with a spinner. The Flow gives you a track/roller clean with a spinner maintenance. Edit - the scrapper needs cleaning monthly in my 1500 sqft, 3 time a week cleaning schedule. Takes 30 seconds. The Flow 2 is an upgrade, so you may want to wait for that in April, but I don't know that it's a substantial upgrade. The real upgrade is the obstacle avoidance that no one has seen. The obstacle avoidance on my Flow 1 is great, so even if you went Flow 1 you'd be impressed.
I'd be cautious putting too much stock in really bad reviews on these channels. There are a lot of people that have had a great experience with Z60 and the Flow. It seems the people that have had a frustrating experience have an oversized voice compared to the many that like their units. The Aqua 10 had design flaws, so the higher number of bad reviews is more justified. I can't speak from experience on the Z60, but I can tell you I love my Flow. I've had it for 5 months and it has been great. Bot with the least amount of cleaning required as the onboard tank is self clean. Never had any smell the entire time I've had it. Extremely quiet with a very good battery life. I would buy it again if I needed a second bot. Z60 is louder with a shorter battery and you have to manually clean the onboard tank. But, it has more available downpressure so if you have textured floors like molded LVP it may clean the groves better. It also has a retractable LIDAR tower, so the mapping is probably faster than the Flow's rear mount LIDAR. Honestly, odds are you'd be happy with either. My personal opinion, the Flow is the way to go.
I get that. It seems there are many reviews of Dreame, Mova, and Narwal that are horror stories about their service experiences. All my interactions with Narwal have been very good. My only major example of a service interaction is when, after 6 weeks, my Flow started making sporadic squeaks on my marble and wood floors. I emailed Narwal CS the issue and they had me do some videos with the rear omnidirectional wheel removed and that seemed to fix it. So they sent me a new wheel, which took 5 days. However, the wheel didn't fix the sound, so they had me video the bot running without the track mop or mop frame installed. That seemed to fix the issue, so they said it was the frame that was extending down slightly over the hard surfaces. They sent me a new frame in 5 days. Fixed the issue and has not returned. If, for some reason, you would need a replacement bot during warranty, I do believe they will send you a refurbished bot, but it should be spotless and run like new. My experience with Narwal has not been anything but good. I don't know about the Dreame/Mova service.
How does Roborock 10r do multilevel homes? I thought that also required you to move the base station to utilize the full second floor map? I do 1500 sq ft on my main floor and 1200 on my second floor with the same single Narwal Flow. I move the base to do it so I can get all rooms I want. I agree, if you don't move the base it is very limited, but i think that is because the onboard tanks don't accommodate large areas of cleaning without emptying the dirty tank and filling up the clean tank. Do other guys do it differently?
I've never owned a Roborock, so i can't give you a comparison. But I've owned my Flow for months and it has been terrific. I run it at 4 am 3 times a week and my floors have never been cleaner. 2 dogs and have never clogged.
I have 1500 sq ft downstairs, where I clean multiple times a week (at least some of the rooms, and the entire place once a week). My kitchen, dining room, and office are smooth, sealed hardwood. My front entryway and foyer are black marble, with shallow grout lines. My downstairs bath/shower has textured LVP imitation wood planks with deeper grout lines. My Flow has no problem cleaning any of it. The Mova Z60 may do better on really deep, cavernous flooring, as you indicated below. It has slightly more down pressure available (it's a heavier bot). But if you have low to medium-textured LVP, the Flow should clean it all.
I would still think the Flow would get that. My bathroom with textured LVP has crevases that pose no problem in cleaning. It's a really good time to buy a bot through Amazon with their extended return window, just in case it doesn't work for you. If you get a Z60, you'd get more down pressure, but it requires more manual cleaning of the bot more frequently, is louder and the battery life per charge is smaller.
That is true of all the roller mops out now. They require manual cleaning of the dirty water collection tank on the bot. That is not true for the track mop design of the Flow. The dirty tank on the Flow is cleaned automatically by the base station after a cleaning job is complete. The tank has a molded-in stirring motor, and it uses high-pressure water/air to backflush its system multiple times during the cleaning process. The stirring motor cavitates the water as it is being pumped in and out of that tank, allowing anything that might have been stuck on the sides of the tank to be dispelled. I've been running my bot for 3 months, and there has been no smell. From what I've read and watched, the Flow's entire design to clean the bot -- track mop, scrapper bar, trash and fresh water tanks, is the industry's best. Not once has a foul odor come from my bot, and when I've done a manual cleaning of my system (omnidirectional rear wheel, scrapper bar, track mop housing), there really isn't much to clean. The base station's dirty water tank can smell if you don't clean it regularly or you don't have a method to counteract the smell, but that's true for spinning mops too. I use a denture tab in the tank and it keeps it odorless until I clean it out on the weekend. As far as corners, you are correct, a roller or track mop is not able to mop it. The geometry makes it impossible. Spinning mops are better in that respect. It's a trade-off between cleaner corners and a cleaner floor, absent the corners.
Honestly it's a pretty easy recommendation for your needs: [Narwal Flow ](https://amzn.to/3WgEytd). It handles pet hair great, some of the best mopping available right now (track style, excellent for tile) , no issues with carpet/rug vacuuming (as long as the rugs aren't pure/jet black), and handles thresholds. Very smart, great naviation and obstacle avoidance and very very good battery life. AND, its very quiet. I'm not sure there's another worth mentioning for your use case but the [MOVA Z60](https://amzn.to/46Z6ech) is a comparable flagship but for what you're needing it for I think the Flow would be a better option.
Looks like Narwal put out a [$100 off coupon](https://amzn.to/3MoSZcO) to go with their discounted price bringing the total down to $899 now for the Flow. Excellent vacuum all around, I did a full [comparison ](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1p25hqm/dreame_aqua_10_ultra_roller_vs_narwal_flow_ama/)to the Aqua10 if anyone was interested. The reason I bring up the [Ecovacs Deebot X11](https://amzn.to/3LW14FZ) in this post is because I've been testing this for the last week now and I have to say I'm really impressed with its performance. It does a stellar job in vacuuming, navigation, obstacle avoidance and mopping. I also really like the powerboost charging and bagless station way more than I thought I would. The only downside I've found at this point is the AI stain detection is way too sensitive for my dark floors but after toggling that off it's been fine. Just another option to consider at this price range! If I were to rank the current roller mop vacs I've tested so far, I would put them in this order: 1. [Narwal Flow](https://amzn.to/3MoSZcO) \- $899 (best for smooth floors) 2. [Ecovacs Deebot X11](https://amzn.to/3LW14FZ) \- $899 (best for textured floors) 3. [MOVA Z60 Ultra Roller](https://amzn.to/4omH8cC) \- $999 (great all around but questionable longevity) 4. Dreame Aqua10 Ultra Roller (Not currently for sale, only the "[Roller](https://amzn.to/3XnxlIp)" version is. Questionable with dock leaks and dust bin issues) 5. [Eufy Omni E25](https://amzn.to/4pBPQVz) \- $599 (great all around but not as good mopper as the others) If anyone has questions regarding the vacs I've tested I'll do my best to answer
I'm just a hobbyist with a special interest, lol. I was in need of two for two locations so my Flow has been my workhorse and my personal bot has changed a few times. The Aqua10 clogged constantly with hair so that didn't work out, the MOVA Z60 I thought was going to be my "one" but then the fluffer roller bearing went out inside return window so that got returned. The x11 was purchased on a whim because of it's discount and it has super impressed me. I will likely keep this unless I get more news about the Eufy S2 within it's holiday return window.
Funny I had a similar experience with Mova and eufy but no problems with the flow
The Narwal Flow is excellent with great mopping, not enough info out there with Roborocks Flow. Typically roborocks perform really well but they made some questionable design choices with it so who knows.
Having tried all the major flagships, I would rank them below. The Flow being the perfect choice for all hardwood floors. 1. Narwal Flow 2. Ecovacs X11 3. MOVA Z60 Eufy s2 coming soon, likely sometime around January and will be a strong contender as well.
Narwal Flow, my second pick would be an X11 Ecovacs
Narwal Flow #1 followed by Ecovacs X11 for mopping-first. For Roborock i'd say CurvX is a solid choice for spinning mop pads.
In your list the CurvX but I'd rather the Narwal Flow even for just vacuuming. It's dust bin design is amazing at keeping the prefilter clear
My absolute favorite feature of the Flow is how quiet it is while it's running. I can run it at night while I sleep it's so quiet.
I actually disagree with some of the comments here saying no robots can handle this. If you get a robot with a roller/track mop, it can definitely handle wet messes. I do think you want to still pick up the wet food before running it, though and then send it to tackle the remaining wet mess. You really don't want to run food through your robot vacuum or any sort of wet stuff through that vacuum port. That food is going to get sucked into the robot and the base station tubes, and eventually, it's going to spoil and make the whole machine smell like rotting food. It's a mess you don't want to deal with. I agree with the comment that a wet/dry vac (like the new Narwal S20) would be better for this kind of thing if you don't want to pick up the food. They really do function like a vacuum, picking up wet food and mopping at the same time. Its perfect for your use case. But if you don't mind picking up the food first, you can definitely get away with running a roller mop for the liquid spills. Something like the Narwal Flow 1/2 or the Qrevo Curv 2 flow would be good options.
It’s going to be a problem for any robot as they don’t do well with water getting sucked inside the robot. If you can mop first it might be okay, but not ideal obviously to mop first because the debris will get stuck in the mops etc. If you are dealing with constant wet spills you will want something like the narwal flow that has track mop. Those can pick up water without just spreading puddles around.
Theres a few robots id recommend. The Mova z60 ultra comes to mind because it has multi floor mapping and you mentioned your grease problem. Now, the grease thing is tricky because you really need a solvent to break that down. id try and pre treat that as much as possible, at least on the first time. If you run your robot every day it shouldnt build up. Narwal flow also has multifloor mapping. This would also be a good option because the mopping pad has on board heated water and this will also help with your grease problem. I do think you should do with a roller style over a spinning mop because of that. But do be careful, I dont know if you want to be cleaning grease with your robot regurlarly. it is hydrophobic and will probably end up clogging all these tiny pipes and motors.
You don’t see how it’s true? Rolling mops have an on board dirty water tank that needs to be cleaned. Spinning mops don’t. Failure to clean this onboard tank results in a foul smelling robot. The only rolling mop without this issue is the Narwal flow. Rolling mops have a scraper that needs to be cleaned. Spinning my mops don’t. Rolling mops have a fluffer that needs to be cleaned. Spinning mops don’t. Rolling mops have more sprayers that get clogged and need to be cleaned. Spinning mops don’t Rolling mops also use way more water than spinning mops which means you are refilling the clean water tanks much more often that spinning mops. As well as emptying the dirty water tank more. Cleaning the mechanisms that are required for rolling mops to function is objectively more maintenance than spinning mops have. And you don’t need to clean mop pads yourself. You can just throw them in the washing machine, every robot comes with two sets so you don’t even need to wait to keep cleaning just put the new ones on
My ideal robot is the narwal flow, plumbed in, with auto detergent. Thats a hands off beast. Unfortunately I dont have anywhere to plumb in a robot cleanly in my home
Don’t buy the Dreame Aqua 10. I’d probably go Narwal or Mova z60 right now. Don’t feel like you need a rolling mop robot right now I think they’re very overrated
The Dreame Aqua 10 is the one that clogs. Not the z60. And do you have any evidence that the non-removeable dirty water tank is bad? Or just vibes? The reason to not buy a roller mop is because of the added maintanence. The Narwal flow is the only robot adressing that
The best vacuums right now are not roller mops but my personal recommendations for roller mops at the moment are the Mova z60 ultra roller, the Narwal Flow, and the x11 pro omni
Again, I never said Jamie Andrews is bad. But if we're comparing two reviewers, one got their unit for free and one paid money for it, which would you say is more trust worthy? If we removed brand names and our personal biases from this question you would have no problem saying that the one that gets free units will have more bias, and I don't think you would hesitate to say that. And re: JaD - his reviews absolutely have a place in this space and if you watch enough testing videos and own enough of your own robots to compare to the testing scenarios, you know that scientific lab testing doesn't tell the whole picture. I have a perfect example. VacuumWars trashed the Mova p10 gen 2 because of how it performed on their object avoidance testing. If you took that test at face value you would think its a terrible vacuum. Then look at Just a Dads review of the Mova P10 Gen 2. He gave a great review because in practice, IN YOUR HOME, it just works and it works really well. I personally have the P10 Gen 2 and I couldn't disagree more with VW conclusions. Can it handle a testing room like VW object room with 30+ things to dodge? No. But does anyone's home actually look like that? Is that a realistic scenario the average user will find themselves in? Also no. In my home, and apparently JaDs, the gen 2 has been AWESOME. the gen 2 requires MUCH less baby sitting than the gen 1, despite the gen 1 having a camera and "better object avoidance scores" according to VW. So in my opinion, VW rigorous testing has value, but in this case it would cause you to miss on out one of the best value vacuums to come out so far this year. All "scientific testing" on robot vacuums needs to be taken with a grain of salt and the context needs to be considered. Asking your self "do I deal with this scenario in my home?" is a good way to cut through the noise.
We can agree to disagree on that. Another issue with Jamie Andrews as well is he gets early beta units and his reviews can reflect that. I've seen him knock robots for things that we're only on the beta units and not on the production unit. Perfect example of how is relationship with the brand can skew his reviews even if unintentionally You just can't remove bias its impossible.
I think the comparison to reviewers in other industries misses a key structural difference. There’s an unspoken understanding with these kind of deals even if not explicitly stated: if a brand sends you a product and you review it negatively, you’re probably not getting another unit from them. That doesn’t need to be stated outright. It’s just how access works. That matters a lot more in robot vacuums than in something like consumer tech media. In broader tech, creators like Gamers Nexus or Linus Tech Tips can spread their coverage across dozens of categories and hundreds of brands. If one company cuts them off, it’s basically irrelevant to their business. Robot vacuum reviewers don’t have that same flexibility. The category is small and highly concentrated there are only a handful of major manufacturers. 5 companies only if were being generous. If even one of those companies stops sending you units after a negative review, that has a real impact on your ability to consistently cover the space. On top of that, the economics are tighter. These channels are smaller, the view counts are lower, and the products themselves are expensive. Most creators in this niche can’t sustainably buy every unit themselves and still run a profitable channel. The few that can like Vacuum War and Just a dad are exceptions because of their scale. So while I agree that accepting review units doesn’t automatically invalidate someone’s opinions, the pressure dynamics here are different. In a small, concentrated category like this, losing access to even one major brand isn’t a minor inconvenience it would materially limit what a reviewer is able to cover and their channel revenue Also side note, but watch LTTs narwal flow review and tell me its not biased lol
Narwal flow is the pick based on what you’ve described. It’s going to be the best at the sticky messes you mentioned
> The system that keeps the mop cleaner while moping is the same system that clean the mop at the dock. Therefore there are fewer mechanical parts to fail. This is how most roller mops are. That’s not way people say they’re more maintenance nor is it why they say their is more added complexity
It’s not an outdated idea. The only roller mop that can claim less maintanence ins Narwal. Even then it’s still more maintenance that spinning mops. On top of that they chug water and you will be refilling the tanks twice as often
They will keep a clean floor clean but they won’t clean a dirty floor. There are trade offs. More maintenance, more complexity, high chance of failure vs spinning mops. If you deal with a lot of wet spills they’re a good choice
What’s your take on the F1 vs F2? Very few have both so I’m curious about your exp. I have them both and prefer the F1 (including the ugly egg lookin dock lol)
Awesome! Glad to hear. I thought the tanks were smaller, maybe I’m sleeping on some specs. I personally find the old water bins easier to empty and clean by hand but that’s maybe just due to habit I will say tho, both robots are awesome
I have a Eufy S1 Pro Omni (12+ months) and a Narwal Flow (since release in August 2025). Both have strengths and weaknesses but overall I prefer the Flow. Maintenance is easier and more convenient than the Eufy. Battery lasts longer as well. Vacuum daily. Mop 4-5x per week. Single level home with 2 humans, 3 cats and a husky. Happy to answer any specifics on either
All of the reviews say it's as good if not better than 1, with massively improved pathing (which was the 1st's biggest downside allegedly) I did a lot of research hunting for a good hybrid vac (and the best mop out there), ended up waiting for the Flow 2. Had it for about a week now, the mopping is very noice. 1500 is a tall order though, 1100 is a good deal for the tech. Honestly, wishing more manufacturers did the caterpillar tread mop design, it's by far the best.
I own the Saros 20. Prior to that I owned a Mobius 60, Narwal Flow, Z60, and matrix 10 as of recently. The saros 20 is the first vacuum I have owned that has not needed to be recovered due to getting stuck somewhere either due to going under something it couldn't fit, or putting itself surrounded by obstacles (little kids/pet toys) and not being able to figure out the same path it used to get in to get back out. I have 4 cats and the saros 20 has vacuumed the best of the previous mile. Similarly my house is 90% tile/hardwood, with an occasional runner and 2 small low pile carpets in the kids bedrooms (winter gets cold up hereand wood floors are not great for radiant heat). The saros is not as good at mopping as the narwal flow 2. However, the flow 1 got stuck under my furniture cabinet so badly that it actually broke having me remove it. Otherwise, the flow was the best robot of the ones I previously owned within the past 2 years. The saros 20 will pull hair out of the rugs better. Of note it appears the narwal flow is quieter if that matters, can run longer, and operates faster (as long as not in freo mind)
Pretty consistent experience from what I have read. That experience being that all these robots are pretty poorly manufactured. Sounds to me like you were just unlucky with several of the robots prior to the Narwal. The only legitimate complaint appears to be the noise complaint and energy use. I purchased both the narwal and the Mova. I am curious to see if I will be keeping the narwal
I have the Mova z60 and am returning the Narwal Flow (doesn't path as well- does clean well though, but doesn't work for my home due to handicap ramps (there when purchased) probable due to the lack Lidar from above, move z60 navigates them better. None the less it definitely saves time cleaning, lets me focus on other cleaning around the house.
You will not find any that have a fabulous customer service. I am very happy with the Mobius 60 so far. I also have tried the dreame matrix 10, mova z60, narwal flow, and the dream aqua 10 roller. The rollers mop a little better (but all had failures within a month, except the narwal which couldn't map my house well and got stuck under my furniture).
It appears I am on a quest to find the right vacuum for my home. I started off on Black Friday purchasing the Mova z60 and Narwal Flow. After about 2 weeks of testing we determined that although the Flow cleaned better, it did not path correctly in certain areas of our house and would often be over aggressive and get stuck under cabinets. So we returned it. The mova z60 although cleaning slightly worse didn't miss spots, but still would occasionally get stuck under the cabinets (she is slightly shorter than the narwal flow). Unfortunately she broke a week later (main brush error that couldn't be fixed). So she had to go back. I recently purchased the Dreame Matrix 10, unfortunately, she doesn't seem to vacuum as well as the other two often leaving behind some crumbs and her battery life is horrendous. She does not get stuck at all though which is fantastic. Going to give her another week or so to see if I change my mind but I think she may be returned to. Any suggests on a vacuum that had a decent battery and mops pretty well? It appears the Mova Mobius 60 somehow has a better battery according to vacuum wars, and its 400 dollars cheaper than the matrix. Also am considering trying the Saros 10R (but I have seen a lot of complaints about the vacuuming Also contemplating waiting for the x60, but not a huge fan of the Dreame app.
Appreciate the comments. Yea I liked it and almost repurchased the z60 but after testing out the matrix I realize I prefer the not getting stuck over the slightly better mopping. Although the z60 did vacuum better. I think it's the rubber funnel thing for debris. I did not like the maintenance on the roller either, mainly the fluffer spindle which would get hair stuck in it all the time. Narwal definitely is superior in that regard. Narwal was better in every aspect but its navigation just didn't work for my house (would miss 3 or 4 spots constantly even when run in cross pattern. V50 was also being considered but the mobius does provide in theory better mop cleaning as it heats the water to higher temps. The x60 I would think in theory would provide better battery life is my thought and also would likely never get stuck given its significantly thinner. Valid concern though, not sure when reviews will be allowed to post on it. I know some reviewers definitely have it in hand I wish roborock would disclose when the Saros 20 line up was being released.
So far I haven't had much luck with Robot Vacuums. Since Black Friday I have had the Mova Z60 (liked it but had a software failure that prevented it from operating), the Narwal Flow (liked it but frequently got stuck under my furniture (one time wedged so badly I had to use a lot of force to remove it); matrix 10 (pretty good but expensive) and finally the Mobius 60 (not holding a charge for some reason). I need something that is smaller then 3.5 inches for the cabinets considering: the X50, maybe X60 (reviews seem well but price is kind of crazy), not sure if there is another I should consider. The saros 20r doesn't appear to be coming out till the end of March, so sadly it doesn't appear to fit into my time frame unless this robot I get fails, however I need a robot now.
All of them have filters that will require cleaning maintenance. Just buy an extra filter, rinse the other filter and let it dry and swap it every 2-3 runs. I just bought a 8 pack of filters for my saros for like 20 bucks off amazon. Did I need an 8 pack no, but it was the same price as buying 2 from roborock.
Narwal is best mop (if that matters). its obstacle avoidance is great. However, if you have a lot of furniture and complex room geometries it's horrible, specifically the App which doesn't let you divide rooms if it maps poorly easily when furniture is present or it senses the items as furniture. Wasn't able to divide my kitchen from my living room. If you have low furniture it's horrible as it can't judge height well got stuck if I put it on extreme, did not go under furniture at all if I didn't put it on extreme. The app is not great. Roborock Saros 20 is the only robot I have had that has not needed any help. I have run it every night since it came out. It does not mop as well as the narwal, but does not mop poorly. It appears to vacuum better on low pile rugs than the narwal flow did (can't speak for flow 2). The App is great and easy to use. As a result of it not having needed any assistance the Saros is the robot I decided to keep. I would personally pick the saros 20 for ease of use and lack of assistance. Did not try the curve 2 flow.

Roborock
Qrevo S
Reliable, great mopping (lifts pads), but poor cable avoidance.

Roborock
Saros 10 Series
Slim, quiet, excellent avoidance, but weak on carpet.

Dreame
L40S Ultra
Superior avoidance, great for pet hair, but poor on carpets.

MOVA
P10 Pro Ultra
Budget king, smart avoidance, but struggles on patterned carpets.

Roborock
Qrevo Curv Series
Great for pet hair; handles high thresholds, but poor avoidance.

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Dreame - X50 Ultra

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Roborock - Qrevo Curv 2 Flow

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Roborock - Saros 10 Series

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Dreame - X50 Ultra

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