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Last updated: May 19, 2026

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about 2 months ago

I've been testing and reviewing robovacs (and other smart home products) for a few years. I test products in my home, rather than an obstacle course, but I am the only one who tests each machine, so its apples to apples. I also have a messy house- pitted tile, rugs, wood floors, and carpet, with a few high transitions. I have a dog (and occasionally, chickens who breach the doggie door to come inside) and am a very physical cook, according to my kitchen floor. You definitely do not have to agree with my choices, but I think I have a different viewpoint than a lot of other outlets, mostly because I am the person responsible for cleaning my home, and I make all buying decisions. I want robots to be the accessibility and labor removing dream of the future, but I like to set realistic expectations. **Under $200** Cheap robots are getting better, and one of my absolute favorites is in this category. But generally speaking, these are vacuums. Yes, they come with mops, but those mops suck. Ignore them and enjoy a cheap, usually pretty good vacuum for the price. Pay attention, because at this price point, some models don't come with towers, meaning you have to empty them yourself, every day or so (unless you live in a VERY clean home). The SwitchBot is tiny. Its like a little M&M moving around your floor, but one that comes with ridiculously high suction power for the price, and a tower. It can get into spaces no other bot can, and it does it shockingly well. Its good on carpet, but shines on hard floors. If you've got carpet, go with the Eureka- its got a dock AND its bagless (which is a big deal to some people). But Eureka has just really figured out how to get a robot to deal with carpet well. I am also a big fan of the 3i G10. I included the Roborock, because look at that price drop, and RR's are, IMO, very reliable. Again... all three of these models have mops. They suck. Don't use them. |Model|Original Price|Sale Price|Discount| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[Roborock Q8 Max black](https://www.amazon.com/shop/amandablumstiktok/list/3JOR6YW9B5G7Y?ref_=aipsflist)|$599.99|$169.99|72%| |[Eureka E20 Robot Vacuum](https://amzn.to/40S3qde)|$309.00|$176.99|43%| |[SwitchBot Robot Vacuum K11+](https://www.amazon.com/shop/amandablumstiktok/list/1VV8DEM3PE45Q?ref_=aipsflist)|$399.99|$199.99|50%| **Under $350** Its not even close here. That Dreame L10s was a flagship model, with the features to match. While this particular drop isn't high, this was once an over 1000$ model. Its got a great mop, (spinning pads, no rollers in this price band), sanitizes the pads in the tower, high suction, great nav. I've included the Eureka, even with a not great discount, because if you have a LOT of carpet, you might want to consider it instead. The Eufy in this price band and the Roborocks all have dramatically less features, they're budget robots. |Model|Original Price|Sale Price|Discount| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[Eureka E20 Evo Plus](https://www.amazon.com/shop/amandablumstiktok/list/3B7PW181H2UKM?ref_=aipsflist)|$299.99|$249.99|17%| |[Dreame L10s Pro Ultra](https://www.amazon.com/shop/amandablumstiktok/list/1F74O472G0T4G?ref_=aipsflist)|$449.99|$349.98|22%| **Under $500** On features alone, the L40 is the best buy. Outrageous suction, hot water wash, it has a cutter for long hair, etc. BUT.... that Qrevo, despite having less than half the suction of the L40, is better at vacuuming on hard floors and carpet. two reasons: Roborocks are good at positioning the sweep/rollers/suction in a way that works, and also, having a dual roller rather than one helps keep tangles from happening, the extending arm helps a lot to grab under things. I've included the S1, a robot I could not have been less enthused about when [I tested it](https://lifehacker.com/tech/eufy-omni-s1-pro-robot-vacuum-review), because people love Eufys (I don't) and they love a roller mop. This is the cheapest one available. |Model|Original Price|Sale Price|Discount| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[Dreame L40 Ultra Gen 2](https://www.amazon.com/shop/amandablumstiktok/list/2FZ74K5V0W0ZT?ref_=aipsflist)|$649.99|$399.99|38%| |[Eufy S1](https://amazn.so/iVBNAFI)|$1,299.99|$499.99|62%| |[Roborock Qrevo S5V](https://www.amazon.com/shop/amandablumstiktok/list/24B0YJFIE6TTB?ref_=aipsflist)|$899.99|$499.99|44%| **Under $750** I'm not ashamed to say my flabber was gasted by how competent the Yeedi S16 is. It managed to get the kitchen sparkle-clean after a full day of canning where the floor was a mess. It got debris easily, navigated complicated layouts and did a great job mopping. It had issues with bathmats, but all robots do. The X9 was a far [better mop than vacuum](https://lifehacker.com/tech/ecovacs-deebot-x9-pro-omni-review) when I tested it as a flagship, but at this lower price, I have few complaints. Its a gorgeous robot and tower, and its a roller mop and people are convinced they're better (I'm iffy, but that's neither here nor there). Finally, I could not let you pass on the J15, which I love as a deep cleaning vacuum with a good mop, but its definitely vacuum forward (and I mean on hard floors, too). The Eurekas have a very well designed triad of big sweep, roller and suction that gets a lot of debris, but more importantly, there's a razor that cuts long hair so it doesn't clog. I'm a fangirl, for sure. |Model|Original Price|Sale Price|Discount| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[Yeedi S16 Plus](https://amazn.so/syHBN9e)|$899.99|$649.99|28%| |[ECOVACS DEEBOT X9 PRO OMNI](https://amazn.so/mT8uLzT)|$1,299.99|$679.00|48%| |[Eureka J15 Pro Ultra](https://amzn.to/4t0faGm)|$999.99|$699.99|30%| **Under $1000** The hill I will die on is that the 3i S10 Ultra is the best robovac, ever. It has it all: Gigantic sweeps which get everything, rollers that never clog, suction that actually picks everything off the floor. A roller mop that works really well. But... sit down. The damn thing sanitizes dirty water and then makes new water by acting as a dehumidifier. *You never change the water.* Like, ever. Sure, it weighs like 70lbs and looks like a kids science museum exhibit, but its quiet and perfect and the child I always wanted :) There have been rumors of 3i's demise, a complicated story involving their company buying iRobot. But.. I have spoken to 3i and they assure me there is absolutely no news about them closing the 3i brand. And, this is is a good price for it (it was $1899 last year). But... if you're gunshy on a "new" brand.... I can make things easy. People are always trying to decide between the Dreame X50 and the Roborock Saros 10/10r. Get the Dreame (its such a steal at this price, and I didn't see a big difference between the X50 and X60 in testing). They try to decide between the Narwal Flow and the Dreame Aqua. Get the Flow (the Aqua leaked). And then, I have to always remind people how freaking awesome the Eureka J15 line is at vacuuming. |Model|Original Price|Sale Price|Discount| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[3i S10 Ultra](https://amazn.so/jEfBGlZ)|$999.99|$799.99|20%| |[DREAME X50 Ultra](https://www.amazon.com/shop/amandablumstiktok/list/2TBXG31JJKDAZ?ref_=aipsflist)|$1,599.99|$849.99|47%| |[Narwal Flow](https://amazn.so/C7hNQxp)|$1,499.99|$899.99|40%| |[Eureka J15 Max Ultra](https://www.amazon.com/shop/amandablumstiktok/list/ZVLS0BAELRF2?ref_=aipsflist)|$1,199.99|$899.99|25%| **Over $1000** A testament to how robot prices are coming down, I don't think you should spend more than $1000 right now. There's nothing in that band that I think is a great buy or necessary. If you love to tinker or have a kid that does, there's a good price on the Saros Z70, but its for tinkering. I didn't love it at cleaning, and its an expensive tinker toy. I'm testing the Saros 20 right now, so nothing to report yet. And I don't think anything else in that band stands out. Spend less. **Some notes on recommendations** Whenever I do this, the comments often ask, "but what about the xxxxxx?" or "why didn't you recommend the xxxx?". The answers are, in this order, "it wasn't as good as what I recommended", and "because I didn't want to" :P If you still want to buy something I didn't recommend, go for it! For instance, I am not recommending any iRobots right now. I'm happy they were acquired and really excited at what Picea (which owns 3i) may bring to the brand. But the existing lineup sucks. I'm iffy on Ecovacs, and at certain price points they're worth recommending, but I've never found a flagship I thought was great. People love Eufy bots, but I've rarely been impressed. Still, one made the list. I based this list on what was for sale, not every robot available. I think these are good buys and I think you should buy them from Amazon or Costco. Costco, if you can, because of their return policy, and Amazon because they hassle you less on returns than the brands themselves, do, a real swing and a miss for the brands, IMO. These are affiliate links, and I have permission to post them from u/leading_release_4344

about 2 months ago

Well I think it's unique for a few reasons. There are some outlets where one person tests everything like just a dad. But in most cases it's many people doing the testing so it's very hard to get an apples to apples comparison. Also a lot of reviewers, usually mail ones, have decided the best way to test these is by designing an obstacle course for the robots. And while I understand the logic, even vacuum wars has started to figure out that it doesn't represent real usage in a home. Also, you can't discount AI and the effect it has, your robots learn your space. Testing them in a obstacle course doesn't really show that off.

about 2 months ago

There SHOULD be more difference. The x60 has the highest Pa I've ever seen at 35k. But this is proof that my longstanding assertion that suction doesn't matter as much as anyone thinks is true. And it has steam mopping, and this plate thats supposed to protect carpets. Oh, and its slimmer. But in practice? I didn't see a difference. The x50 didn't have a problem navigating around carpets, and the x60 still doesn't. Maybe other people experienced issues with rugs, but I never did. I saw no improvement of what it picked up or didn't, and where I wanted it to count (picking up bigger debris), the suction doesn't help, because those things still get stuck in the rollers, causing the robot to error. A slimmer robot IS helpful if that's been an issue (places you can't get under) but if not.... it doesn't matter. It can surmount slightly taller thresholds.... but until its a stair, meh. When i look at the pricing, I just don't see the justification for that big a difference. The x50 is a deal.

8 months ago

Between the two, no question, the Flow is better (I tested both). Still, neither beats the 3i S10 Ultra, and I think they're both on par with the Saros 10/10r. I know everyone wants roller mops to be the end all be all, but so far, they're good, but didn't blow my mind.

8 months ago

# [Under $300](https://amzn.to/48R0G4J) Generally speaking, I think its rare you find a great robot at this price, and I've discussed why there's some sense in [not spending the money on real discount robots](https://www.whatrobotvacuumshouldiget.com/2025/06/20/are-budget-robot-vacuums-worth-buying/). Still... there are a few gems worth looking at, as more expensive models drop under this threshold. If you've got a smaller place, or a place with many floor objects, try a Switchbot. Because they're so small, they can get between chair legs and make a small radius around things. Switchbot just doesn't get enough attention, IMO. Lots of people purchased the K10+ Pro on my recommendation during Prime Day and have posted about how happy they are. The 11 made the tower smaller and improved some other specs, but is mostly the same model. The perfect apartment, studio, or office vac. Performs spectacularly well as a vacuum, particularly given the price and stats, but it is ONLY a vacuum. If you're more concerned about a mop, get the 3i. (its great at both, to be clear, but it has the best mop of the bunch). I really like the 3i brand, they're not new, they've been making robots for other companies for years. The G10 is stripped down from premium models, but it had the same sweeper>roller design that is so effective on the higher end models. If you're looking for a carpet forward model, Eureka is the only legacy vacuum brand that successfully transitioned to robots that work. While no brand has great customer service anymore, there's a benefit to Eureka being US based. No waiting 24 hours for a response. |**Model**|**Original Price**|**BDD Price**|**Discount**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[SwitchBot Robot Vacuum K11+](https://amzn.to/4mOxq1O)|399.99|224.99|44%| |[3i G10+](https://amzn.to/48znS7N)|$449.99|$269.99|40%| |[Eureka E20 Plus](https://amzn.to/4mOwQBd)|449.99|299.99|33%| # [Under $500](https://amzn.to/4o4MPMA) Were seeing some amazing deals in this price band. That L40 Ultra has dropped from the original price of $1499 to under $500. So many people have been grabbing this model since Prime Day and most of them report being quite happy. While it wouldn't have been my favorite at a higher price, at this price, you're getting a premium model at an absurd sale price. I absolutely love the 3i current line up. The vacuum and mop are both fantastic and the app-easy. This is basically my top pick (3i S10 Ultra) minus the dehumidifier. The P10 still has the great sweep/roller design and gets up debris no other brand can without getting clogged. Get this one if you're concerned about larger debris. The Eureka is better than it should be. I loved the sweeper design, it moved debris off hard floors and carpet very effectively and would be my pick for carpet. Rarely got stuck on anything or reported errors, and it was just really reliable. I recommended this model during Prime Day, and got a lot of good feedback from folks who picked it up. |**Model**|**Original Price**|**BDD Price**|**Discount**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[Dreame L40 Ultra](https://amzn.to/48Rswhk)|$799.99|$469.99|41%   | |[Eureka J15 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4gUYACY)|699.99|489.99|30%| |[3i P10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4h1Sy3y)|$1,099.99|$469.99|55%| # [Under $750](https://amzn.to/4nypaUV) Roborock has won my loyalty over the past few years by producing consistently reliable robots, and the S5A is no different. A variant of the Qrevo line, with spinning mop heads that extend. While Roborock may produce an absurd number of models, and the S5A is no exception, they are reliable for an exceptional app experience, with intuitive setting locations, great support and good hardware with easy to find replacement parts. The L40S is the best of both worlds. A premium vac, at a not premium price for now. This is the model with the best balance on this list, of vacuum and mop. It improves over the L40 in the previous band with better nav and suction. Finally, if you want to emphasize mopping, Narwal does it really well. My two issues w this model are that it uses a ridiculous amount of water and there's a giant button on top of the machine your pet or kid will want to bop. If you don't mind refilling a lot, and you dig into the settings to lock the button (or don't have kids/pets) this is ideal. |**Model**|**Original Price**|**BDD Price**|**Discount**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[Narwal Freo Z Ultra (White Version)](https://amzn.to/46IEhUI)|$1,499.99|$550.00|63%| |[Roborock Qrevo Edge S5A](https://amzn.to/46ZYXI5)|$999.99|$649.99|35%| |[Dreame L40s Ultra](https://amzn.to/4o5ARCv)|$1,099.99|$749.99|32%| # [Under $900 ](https://amzn.to/4oad9oS) From the day it was released, I thought the Curv was a steal, most of the premium features of the S8 line, at a better price with improvements to the sweeps, extending out beyond the robot. The CurvX improves on the Curv with higher Pa and better nav. I do think its a better vacuum than mop. The X9 is a better mop than vacuum. but other than getting clogged here and there, was generally a good vacuum, and this is a reasonable price for it. Eureka is the best surprise this year. The J15 line is consistent and reliably performing. I love the sweeps, its a very effective mop and carpet cleaner and offers US based support. |**Model**|**Original Price**|**BDD Price**|**Discount**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[Ecovacs x9 Pro Omni](https://amzn.to/46CySzK)|$1,599.00|$899.00|44%| |[Eureka J15 Max Ultra](https://amzn.to/46UkK3x)|1199.99|$899.00|25%| |[Roborock Qrevo CurvX](https://amzn.to/48PvS4j)|$1,499.99|$899.99|40%| # [Over $900 ](https://amzn.to/48OKBMY) In this band are my top two recommendations. Let's start with my favorite robot of all time (a BIG statement). 3i has been making robots for other brands for a while, but the 3i is their first flagship. The S10 Ultra blew me away and became the only robot I've ever kept after testing. It will vacuum anything, without getting stuck or clogged. I mean, giant pieces of mulch. No problem. It cleans water on its own and generates more from the air, so it truly is set it and forget it. Totally autonomous. I've been yapping about it for months, and of everyone who bought it during Prime Day, I'd say people were split, 60/40. Most loved it, but some complained of a musty smell, which makes sense, since the unit is basically a dehumidifier (that's how it generates water). I've had mine for 6 months and don't notice a smell in a very wet state (Oregon), but it seems like something worth noting. So let's talk about the Flow. I tested the Dreame and Narwal roller mops, (and previously, the Eufy roller mops). Everyone is obsessed with roller mops, but the Flow is the first one I recommend. The flow improves on the Freo Z and X by not needing to be refilled constantly, and the vacuum improves over all other Narwal models. I still don't think roller mops are the end all/be all, so I wouldn't recommend dropping $1500 of this model, but I do think the Flow is worth buying at this sale price. |**Model**|**Original Price**|**BDD Price**|**Discount**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[3i S10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4o7hKIe)|$1,899.99|$1,099.99|42%| |[Narwal Flow](https://amzn.to/3IxMoLX)|$1,499.99|$1,099.99|27%| If you're looking for ALL the models on sale for Big Deal Days, they're [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nvsulx/every_robovac_on_sale_for_amazon_big_deal_days/) or s[ee all sales models at once](https://amzn.to/4nt1sJH). For some context, I [write about robovacs](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1l48fms/i_write_about_robot_vacuums_for_a_living_ama/) both for an online pub and my own site, and we get access to prices beforehand, so long as we don't share them before brands ask us (embargo). I shared similar information and advice for [Prime Day](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1ljl8wd/prime_day_deals/), and people were generally pretty [happy](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1m0sjou/amanda_amanda_amanda_the_dreame_l40_is_amazing/) w the recommendations from the feedback. Feel free to ask questions. I'll also produce a list of recommendations per price band in another thread. I'm not sure these are ALL the deals out there, but these are what's been released to me (that's off embargo). These are affiliate links, I had mod permission (I assume, still).

7 months ago

Flow. I think there IS a big difference between them, and if you have the coins to go to a Flow, I would.

7 months ago

Hey. I've listed every [single price](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nvsulx/every_robovac_on_sale_for_amazon_big_deal_days/) for the Big Deal Days sale, and my recommendations [per price band](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nzbtex/big_deal_day_recommendations_by_price_band_these/). However, I'm getting the same questions over and over, so here's some additional context. # Best Robot for Long Hair (human or pet) Hair is the foil of all robot vacuums. It doesn't just wrap around the rollers, it also gets wrapped around the sweeps and the wheels, and while it doesn't hurt the robot, it will make it less effective, and require you to clean it more often. This isn't a problem with short haired pets (they have a different problem). Yes, having high suction is important, but it doesn't always translate to getting more debris up. In the case of long hair, nothing beats a razor cutter on the robot, and the only line that has one that I recommend is the Eureka J15 line. I like this line a lot for other reasons, too, but if you've got a long hair problem, this is the answer. There are J15s at a number of price points. [Eureka J15 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4gUYACY) [Eureka J15 Evo Ultra](https://amzn.to/42tMbQF) [Eureka J15 Max Ultra](https://amzn.to/46UkK3x) # Best Robot for Short Haired Pets Now, you have a different problem, which is sticky hair. Short hair sticks to the floor, it climbs the walls, and you need a sweep that will effectively get it off the ground and move it toward the roller, where the vacuum can capture it. The sweep plays a critical role here, and the sweeps that are most effective are large, in constant contact w the ground, and move in opposite directions. Eufy e25/e28 have the right design for this, but I don't recommend them for other reasons. The models that I've found that do this best are the 3i G10, P10 and S10. I love these models for other reasons, but those sweeps seal the deal for me on short hair. It's just a bonus that they are also the only models that can suck up cat litter without clogging. [3i G10+](https://amzn.to/48znS7N) [3i P10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4h1Sy3y) [3i S10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4o7hKIe) # Best Robot for Carpet If you've got a whole house of carpet, I like the Dreame X50, Dreame L40, Eureka J15 Ultra, and Switchbot K11+. That's not to say other robots suck at vacuuming, they don't. But I like these models specifically on carpet, and if you've just got one room with carpet, consider getting the K11+ for that room alone. Its cheap and great at navigating under beds, etc. [Dreame X50 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4h77Wfa) [Dreame L40 Ultra](https://amzn.to/48Rswhk) [Eureka J15 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4gUYACY) [SwitchBot Robot Vacuum K11+](https://amzn.to/4mOxq1O) # Best Robot for LVP Lots of people have LVP and want something specialized for it. In truth, there's nothing special about it. A robot good at hard floors will work for LVP. There aren't really robots that leave a lot of water behind anymore. # Best Robot for Area Rugs This is not a model specific problem, its a rug problem. Rugs have to be well anchored to the ground (a grip pad isn't going to cut it forever), and the lower the profile, the better. Think Ruggables. If a rug starts to roll up on an end, the robot is going to have trouble. If a rug has fringe, its a bad match for a robot. Even bathroom rugs are rough for robots. All that said, a robot with a lifting chassis is going to have an easier time getting onto a rug. Think X50, Saros 10/10r, CurvX. [Dreame X50 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4h77Wfa) [Roborock Qrevo CurvX](https://amzn.to/48PvS4j) [Saros 10/10r](https://amzn.to/4nyiwy5) # Best Robot for Small Spaces Get a Switchbot K11+. That is all. It's a vacuum only, but costs next to nothing, and is shockingly full of premium features. It also is a effective vacuum, getting into places no other robot can because of its size. [SwitchBot Robot Vacuum K11+](https://amzn.to/4mOxq1O) # Best Robot for Corners This doesn't exist. No robot is great at corners. In fact, most robots aren't great at the "edges" of rooms, they're mostly good at the main open area of a room. You have to let this go. The best you can do is get a robot with extending sweeps/brushes. A lot of robots have these now, and they're one of the best features. # Best Robot if You're Hellbent on a Roller Mop Everyone in this Reddit forum is convinced rollers are the end all/be all of mops. I disagree. They're fine. But if you're just absolutely determined to get one, get the Flow. Eufy's e25/e28 models were riddled with errors, and Dreame's roller mop leaks and streaks. The Flow was easily the best of the bunch. [Narwal Flow](https://amzn.to/3IxMoLX) # Best Robot for People with ADHD Also, my favorite robot. The point of a robot, for me, is autonomy. I want it to do the damn job, with as little required of me as possible. Otherwise, I might as well do the job myself. While most robots do help, they also require upkeep and new, consistent input. Change the water, change the filter, unclog it, find it where it got stuck on a cord, etc. And then, I tried the 3i S10, which i had zero expectations of, because I'd never heard of the brand. This is the robot to get if you're overwhelmed and just want the job done. It vacuums EVERYTHING without clogging. Does it silently. It mops well, and both makes its own water and sanitizes the water it recycles so you never have to change the water. It's got downsides: its effing HUGE and heavy. It looks like an exhibit at a science museum. Its expensive, and some people say it smells musty (it makes water via a dehumidifier, so that makes sense). But readers, I would marry mine. [3i S10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4o7hKIe) \------------------------------- For some context, I [write about robovacs](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1l48fms/i_write_about_robot_vacuums_for_a_living_ama/) both for an online pub and my own site. I shared similar information and advice for [Prime Day](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1ljl8wd/prime_day_deals/), and people were generally pretty [happy](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1m0sjou/amanda_amanda_amanda_the_dreame_l40_is_amazing/) w the recommendations from the feedback. Feel free to ask questions. These are affiliate links, I had mod permission.

7 months ago

I don't like the Freo Z because you have to change the water ALL the time. Wouldn't recommend Flow because of the short dog hair.

7 months ago

oh Canada.... ugh. The truth us you don't have the robot I want you to get (the 3i S10 Ultra) and every other one is going not be up to the challenge of your household. So... here's what I think. Get a fleet. Get a fleet of cheaper robots, one per floor, so they each have a tiny domain, and are less likely to get clogged by kid mess and long hair. AND... if one goes out of commission, you've got 2 back ups. I'd recommend the [Eureka J15 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4gUYACY) because of the long hair and messes. But no matter what, you're going to have to sweep for kids toys and dropped food. No robot is going to handle those.

7 months ago

Tough. I like the [Narwal Flow](https://amzn.to/3IxMoLX) for mopping, but 3 dogs... that's a lot of hair. Ugh. You can't go wrong here, but I'm leaning towards the [Saros 10r](https://amzn.to/46Y6lUd) which is a more balanced robot.

7 months ago

nice small space, you just have a lot of hair. Get a [3i P10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4h1Sy3y). Its a nice, middle of the road option.

7 months ago

I don't recommend those models, I'm so sorry. The only rollers I recommend are the 3i S10 Ultra and the Narwal Flow, which might struggle with your long hair.

6 months ago

if the mop is your priority, on tile, get the [Narwal flow](https://www.amazon.com/shop/amandablumstiktok/list/23Z9EP0ZNSFS9?ref_=aipsflist). While I don't think the vacuum is as good, my experience with it on both flat and pitted tile is unparallelled. And the vacuum isn't BAD, either. It's also pretty good. I think the Flow resolved a number of issues from the Freo line around water consumption, and the mapping is bang on good.

6 months ago

Honestly? I haven't had that problem. But I also don't have a dog that poops on the floor. If a lot of people are having that problem then yes, it's a problem. But just try to remember that there are now many many settings on each of these machines so you can fine tune them quite a bit. And also you're hearing a few elevated voices above thousands of users ... Doesn't diminish what they're saying, btw. Just saying, it's not everyone having this problem. I still have the flow installed..... I'm going to conduct an experiment. Check back in a few hours.

about 2 months ago

Hi! Going to join in, because I've tested all of these units in my home. So, first lets put a qualifier on here. Do you care about the KIND of mop? Lots of people do, I think its not something to hinge your decision on, but if you do care about having a roller mop, take the x50 out. Now, between these choices, I'd say that the best, for me, was the S10. it was good at everything, and hands off. But... some people haven't loved it the way I did, they mentioned a musty smell, probably because of the dehumidifier. I live in the PNW, sit 10 feet away and don't smell anything. After that, I'd say its a tie between the Flow and x50. The x50 navigated large spaces really well without getting lost, and is a champ at mapping. The Flow tends (its still installed) to get stuck occasionally on my threshhold, which is less than an inch. No reason for it. I haven't tested the Curv 2 Flow, but liked the QRevo and specifically, the Curv lines, and Roborock generally. Based solely on specs, I would discount it in favor of others. * I’m specifically looking for something that is as “hands-off” as possible and can handle both hair and actual messes (not just light dust) but also doesn't require it to be linked to the home plumbing because we're in a townhome and are unable to do that The ONLY robot I have ever tested that sucked up real, big, legit debris is the 3i S10. Haters to the left. I dare any other vacuum to suck up a small piece of cardboard or mulch and not get stuck. Robots are good at microdebris (dust) and maybe debris up to a cheerio (a cheerio would actually put some robots down, but nothing bigger except the 3i. So in terms of hands off. no question- its the 3i. Also, while it SUCKS to move in, its very heavy, you never change the water. After that.... the x50. I do have to tend to the Flow every week or so. * How well do these handle laminate flooring + rugs (especially transitions and not soaking edges)? The rug question is a trap. What kind of rug? How is it anchored to the floor? Ruggables do better than most. Low pile do better. Tassels? Forget it. High pile, unanchored like a bath mat? Forget it. But honestly, most modern robots don't soak the edges of rugs. But I suspect you'll change your floor plan re rugs after getting a robot. Laminates are fine. I think rollers do better if we'er talking LVP, if you can get the robot to go with the "grain". * Do any of these struggle with anti-fatigue mats or getting stuck? Almost all. They'll move it around, might get water a bit around them. But... robots with lifting chassis like the x50 do better. I watched the x50 (and x60) successfully navigate a kitchen fatigue mat. * Real-world mopping performance on sticky messes (not just “light dirt”) Flow. Sticky, specifically, is hard. Its not going to get it on the first pass. You need to send the robot to that spot, and then go to max water, and send the robot over it a few times. After the Flow, the 3i. Then the x50. * Hair management (long hair + dog hair) Again, sorry. 3i. It has combs inside that deal with it. I'd prefer a razor like the Eureka J15 line or Dreame's tricut roller, available on some models, but of your choices, That's the best. The x50 also advertises a comb system, I didn't think as much of it. The Flow wasn't great around this. Consider the Flow more of a mop than a vacuum. The bigger issue is getting the hair off the floor, and that's about the magic triad of sweep/roller/suction. High suction doesn't matter if the sweep doesn't get it into alignment with the rollers, and if the rollers don't get it off the floor to present to the suction tube. The reason the 3i does it well (the eureka line does, too. The Eufy e25 should, but it doesn't) is GIANT sweeps that move in opposite directions, and always have contact w the floor. Other brands use sweeps with 2 arms instead, and one one of them, one one side. * Obstacle avoidance in a lived-in home (not staged, clutter-free floors) Again, this is a trap. In order for your robot to be successful, you will eventually capitulate to getting the floor less cluttered. Cords will become wall bound, toys will get cleaned up, lamps will become more anchored to the wall, etc. But generally, all four of these robots are about as capable. * Long-term maintenance, what’s annoying after a few months? NO ONE has tested these for many months. And for everyone who has a robot they love, someone will hate it. What's realistic is to assume upkeep. You'll need to really crack the robot open and clean it once a month. That's the robot, and the tower. This is 30 min of work. But doing this is going to keep the robot running well.

about 2 months ago

I mean I like the flow but I don't love it. I have major ADHD and a dog and chickens and I got robots to take some of the labor away. I got annoyed enough at the flow that I just let it sit on the dock for 2 weeks. I mean it's not a bad vacuum. But I'm annoyed by the fact that after watching roborock, for instance, spend so much time and energy engineering this sweep and going from three arms to two arms and it extends and it's asymmetrical, etc. Etc. In the end, it was so simple. You just need two giant effing sweeps that always have contact with the floor. Now that that's been discovered. Why isn't everyone copying that? Why was the e25/28 So bad when it had the right design? I don't know. I mean not to be a spoiled sport, but no matter what robot you get, you're going to have some complaints about it. And theoretically, they'll be things you love about it. You've narrowed It down to two good robots, buy one and move forward.

11 months ago

Narwal Is the only robot that even attempts to clean the baseboard but the only thing the frio z or x does is run a muff along it. It doesn't actually clean. It's a duster. And the frio x and z have some other problems. Notably they are water hogs and you have to refill the water all the time. After every single run.

3 months ago

I have tested tons and tons of robovacs (professionally) and yes, there are many worthwhile. There are many that aren't. I think this is a 2 headed problem: first, journalism isn't really set up to help you decide. Sites are monetizing reviews, and have to compete with AI and SEO, so they're formulated a specific way that make them not helpful. Second, you have to align your expectations properly. There isn't one "best", there's the best for your setup and situation and budget. Also, you have to understand that robovacs don't mean never sweeping, mopping or vacuuming again. They're good mostly at the "middle" of your room, and even that depends on how much you're willing to shift the items on your floor (cords, rugs, furniture). They can be fantastic accessibility tools, but they're not perfect... neither are humans.

3 months ago

If your house is clean and your floor is kept clear of cords and rando pet/kid stuff... You'll have pretty good success with almost any. Like a mid-range roboRock is probably going to be fine for you. I think the dreame x50 and x60 are spectacular in that kind of situation. I don't tend to love narwhals as much as other people cuz I think they use too much water but the flow isn't bad. I'm a really huge fan of the 3i brand, but because they're still relatively unknown, every time I bring them up people get into a furor.

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4 months ago

The best sub $600 robot that can compete with the fancy ones is the Mova P10 Pro. Budget matters, floor type matters. If you have tile, you need a roller mop because a spinning mop can’t get down into the grout between the tiles. In that case I think the Qrevo Curve 2 Flow is the best. There is a trade off however that roller mops are much thicker and may not fit under your cabinetry, as was the case with my house. If you’re willing to spare no expense, I’d say the Narwhal Flow is easily the best all around for the best mopping hands down, and ability to vacuum hair without tangling. The drawback is it was too thick to fit under my cabinets in the kitchen and bathrooms.

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3 months ago

just a quick question, if you want exceptional mopping why don’t you get a roller/track Yes, they are more maintencr, but the Narwhal flow isn’t actually that much more maintencr becuase it uses a different system from every other robot to self clean its internal dirty water bin, you could also get the new narwhal flow 2 that is coming out. But the price of the normal flow will drop a lot now that the flow 2 is releasing

3 months ago

Curv 2 flow has water distribution issues, it causes a lot of streaking. I think since you have a lot of animals, you should just get a good robo vac that has spinning mops, since they are less maintence and way easier to deal with hair and stuff, insteading of making the insides of the roler mechanism dirty, it just puts any hair it gets on it into the tray which you rinse once a month. For around the same price as the curv 2 flow you can get the curvX, or spend a lil more for the saros 10r, the price of the 10r will drop soon probably because the saros 20 series is releasing. If you want to try a roller mop, I have to say that the best roller mop is the narwhal flow, I think you should buy it on a place like amazon, try it for 2 weeks and see if it works well with all teh animal hair, and if it doesnt just return it. The price of the narwhal flow might also drop because the narwhal flow 2 is releasing soon.

3 months ago

The curv is a really bad roller imo, it has like water distribution issues. If you want a roller, i would suggest getting the narwhal flow after the flow 2 is released, because the flow 1 will go down, but narwhal consumbales are a bit pricy.

3 months ago

Rip , I will say tho that the price of the narwhal flow will probably drop once the narwhal flow 2 drops ( which is prob soon like within this couple months) but you really can’t go wrong with the l50 ultra or the narwhal flow or the 10r. I have heard mixed reviews of the e25 roller sometimes getting really dirty and making clumps of dust and hair tho.

3 months ago

they dont nessarily clean better, they are slightly worse at dried on stains, but they are way better at cleaning actual dirt/mud/liquids because they self clean while cleaning, not just at the base station every 10 minutes. If you have no budget, i would say wait for the new narwhal flow 2 to come out and get that (obv depends on the reviews when it comes out, but i think its gonna be really good) , but you could also get the normal Narwhal Flow if you need one right now.

3 months ago

Dreame roller isn’t good, it has a Leakey base station. I think the Narwhal flows are the only worthwhile roller mops because they don’t have the extra maintenance that all the other rollers have

about 2 months ago

Don’t get the eufy, there are much better roller mop vacs, I would say the best right now is the narwhal flow, and the best is probably gonna be the new narwhal flow 2 that’s coming out soon.

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20 days ago

All of the reviews say it's as good if not better than 1, with massively improved pathing (which was the 1st's biggest downside allegedly) I did a lot of research hunting for a good hybrid vac (and the best mop out there), ended up waiting for the Flow 2. Had it for about a week now, the mopping is very noice. 1500 is a tall order though, 1100 is a good deal for the tech. Honestly, wishing more manufacturers did the caterpillar tread mop design, it's by far the best.

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about 1 month ago

I own the Saros 20. Prior to that I owned a Mobius 60, Narwal Flow, Z60, and matrix 10 as of recently. The saros 20 is the first vacuum I have owned that has not needed to be recovered due to getting stuck somewhere either due to going under something it couldn't fit, or putting itself surrounded by obstacles (little kids/pet toys) and not being able to figure out the same path it used to get in to get back out. I have 4 cats and the saros 20 has vacuumed the best of the previous mile. Similarly my house is 90% tile/hardwood, with an occasional runner and 2 small low pile carpets in the kids bedrooms (winter gets cold up hereand wood floors are not great for radiant heat). The saros is not as good at mopping as the narwal flow 2. However, the flow 1 got stuck under my furniture cabinet so badly that it actually broke having me remove it. Otherwise, the flow was the best robot of the ones I previously owned within the past 2 years. The saros 20 will pull hair out of the rugs better. Of note it appears the narwal flow is quieter if that matters, can run longer, and operates faster (as long as not in freo mind)

6 months ago

Pretty consistent experience from what I have read. That experience being that all these robots are pretty poorly manufactured. Sounds to me like you were just unlucky with several of the robots prior to the Narwal. The only legitimate complaint appears to be the noise complaint and energy use. I purchased both the narwal and the Mova. I am curious to see if I will be keeping the narwal

5 months ago

I have the Mova z60 and am returning the Narwal Flow (doesn't path as well- does clean well though, but doesn't work for my home due to handicap ramps (there when purchased) probable due to the lack Lidar from above, move z60 navigates them better. None the less it definitely saves time cleaning, lets me focus on other cleaning around the house.

3 months ago

You will not find any that have a fabulous customer service. I am very happy with the Mobius 60 so far. I also have tried the dreame matrix 10, mova z60, narwal flow, and the dream aqua 10 roller. The rollers mop a little better (but all had failures within a month, except the narwal which couldn't map my house well and got stuck under my furniture).

4 months ago

It appears I am on a quest to find the right vacuum for my home. I started off on Black Friday purchasing the Mova z60 and Narwal Flow. After about 2 weeks of testing we determined that although the Flow cleaned better, it did not path correctly in certain areas of our house and would often be over aggressive and get stuck under cabinets. So we returned it. The mova z60 although cleaning slightly worse didn't miss spots, but still would occasionally get stuck under the cabinets (she is slightly shorter than the narwal flow). Unfortunately she broke a week later (main brush error that couldn't be fixed). So she had to go back. I recently purchased the Dreame Matrix 10, unfortunately, she doesn't seem to vacuum as well as the other two often leaving behind some crumbs and her battery life is horrendous. She does not get stuck at all though which is fantastic. Going to give her another week or so to see if I change my mind but I think she may be returned to. Any suggests on a vacuum that had a decent battery and mops pretty well? It appears the Mova Mobius 60 somehow has a better battery according to vacuum wars, and its 400 dollars cheaper than the matrix. Also am considering trying the Saros 10R (but I have seen a lot of complaints about the vacuuming Also contemplating waiting for the x60, but not a huge fan of the Dreame app.

4 months ago

Appreciate the comments. Yea I liked it and almost repurchased the z60 but after testing out the matrix I realize I prefer the not getting stuck over the slightly better mopping. Although the z60 did vacuum better. I think it's the rubber funnel thing for debris. I did not like the maintenance on the roller either, mainly the fluffer spindle which would get hair stuck in it all the time. Narwal definitely is superior in that regard. Narwal was better in every aspect but its navigation just didn't work for my house (would miss 3 or 4 spots constantly even when run in cross pattern. V50 was also being considered but the mobius does provide in theory better mop cleaning as it heats the water to higher temps. The x60 I would think in theory would provide better battery life is my thought and also would likely never get stuck given its significantly thinner. Valid concern though, not sure when reviews will be allowed to post on it. I know some reviewers definitely have it in hand I wish roborock would disclose when the Saros 20 line up was being released.

3 months ago

So far I haven't had much luck with Robot Vacuums. Since Black Friday I have had the Mova Z60 (liked it but had a software failure that prevented it from operating), the Narwal Flow (liked it but frequently got stuck under my furniture (one time wedged so badly I had to use a lot of force to remove it); matrix 10 (pretty good but expensive) and finally the Mobius 60 (not holding a charge for some reason). I need something that is smaller then 3.5 inches for the cabinets considering: the X50, maybe X60 (reviews seem well but price is kind of crazy), not sure if there is another I should consider. The saros 20r doesn't appear to be coming out till the end of March, so sadly it doesn't appear to fit into my time frame unless this robot I get fails, however I need a robot now.

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5 months ago

If you do not have pets go with narval flow. By far best mopping and fast cleaning, also silent.

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9 months ago

Both should be fine with LVP as they shouldn’t leave too much water. > What are the added benefits? Compared to the flow, the MOVA z60 and the Dreame Aqua 10 roller (feature wise): Duosolution tank, fur compression (a great feature for homes with heavily shedding pets), the mop fluffing wheel to fluff the fibers of the mop as it mops, likely better side brush extension algorithm, ProLeap system, and a removable dirty water tank (flow’s cannot be removed by an average user), less consumables (flow has a disposable dustbin part and a disposable mop washboard filter which I find wasteful), bigger dustbag at 3.2L, and dustbin and dustbag drying (which was present on the Narwal Freo Z ultra but not on the flow?). The ultra roller should have smoother obstacle avoidance like the flow (not needing to back up to gauge distance) as it has binocular RGB cameras instead of just one and a higher ProLeap (4.8cm for a single one and 4.5+3.5cm for tiered thresholds). Tradeoffs compared to the flow: No removable mop washboard. No reviews of the MOVA z60, the Dreame Aqua 10 roller and the ultra roller have come out yet so I cannot recommend them for now.

9 months ago

You literally need to disassemble the robot to access the dirty water tank.

12 months ago

Narwal flow’s release seems to have been delayed due to faults discovered by beta testers. I’d recommend waiting for the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track if you want to wait. Below is a comparison photo testing how the Narwal Flow (top panels) compares with the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track (bottom panels) when cleaning carpet with the optimal carpet settings turned on (cleaning twice in a checkerboard pattern and Narwal flow’s pressurized cleaning head being activated). Dreame’s track type roller mop (which was fine tuned over time with MOVA’s G20, G30, and the Z50 Ultra) also seems to be the leading solution since it can exert 18N of pressure when mopping (the most exerted by a roller mop robot and MOVA Z50 Ultra does the same) and can mop with warm water thanks to an onboard water heater heating it up to 45°C (Narwal’s 36°C claim is from the warm water filled at the station). https://preview.redd.it/ej07u60mjk5f1.jpeg?width=1436&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d20f83c2d8b38f54734ef4980fa94c1ff31bde87 Since you live in a home that is rather dusty, I’d check out the dreame L40S Ultra, L40S Pro Ultra, L/X50 Ultra and the MOVA V50 Ultra for the filter self cleaning function when autoemptying. Due to size constraints and the addition of a track type roller mop, the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track uses a different autoempty system and lacks the filter self cleaning function. If there’s a threshold higher than 3cm, I’d recommend the MOVA V50 Ultra, Dreame X50 Ultra, and the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track. If choosing between the MOVA V50 Ultra and the Dreame X50 Ultra, the MOVA V50 Ultra is the better flagship for near-identical models as the vacuuming performance was improved over the x50 Ultra and has the duosolution detergent tank which is well suited for homes needing odors to neutralize since there’s another tank for odor neutralizing detergent. The fact that it can dry the dustbin and dustbag is also a plus for mildew control. The mopping has been improved with tilting mop pads (up to 5°) to automatically adjust to the floor level and can spin up to 260RPM over the X50’s maximum of 180RPM if it detects a liquid or dried on mess. If you want a roller mop robot right now, the eufy E25/E28 or the MOVA Z50 Ultra is a good choice. The MOVA Z50 Ultra will mop more thoroughly though and will know when to clean its mops better with the onboard turbidity sensor facing the mop. If you want to compare the MOVA Z50 Ultra to the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track, the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track should be slightly better for raw mopping performance (only difference is warmer water when mopping), better edge cleaning with an extendable mop (still not as good as spinning mops which is common for roller mop robots with an extending mop), better at antitangling with the double anti tangle brushes (both models’ mop scrapers are comb shaped to help with any potential tangles and I haven’t seen this on roller mop robots from other brands), much better self cleaning (100°C mop cleaning with a PTC plate, dustbin and dustbag drying, and the duosolution tank), better vacuuming, much better obstacle avoidance from the binocular RGB cameras that avoids obstacles without needing to backtrack like all other Dreame and MOVA models and it seems Dreame’s obstacle avoidance is now on par with the Narwal Freo z based on Chinese KOL reviews, and much better obstacle climbing with the ProLeap system .

12 months ago

This is the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track or the Narwal Flow. It can extend the mop but won’t be able to clean into corners as well as a spinning mop. It’s just a tradeoff.

11 months ago

Mopping: Dreame Aqua 10 Pro track ≈ MOVA Z50 Ultra > Narwal flow (tentatively) >≈ eufy E25/E28 > eufy S1 Pro ≈ ecovacs x8/x9/t80

8 months ago

I’d look at robot vacuum mop combos with a roller mop as it’ll clean itself as it mops. Right now there’s the MOVA z60 and the Narwal flow with a vacuum first then mop mode. No robots have a self cleaning brush system but they have antitangle main brushes.

11 months ago

1. It really depends on your purchasing region. Costco is a popular choice given its generous return policy but choices are rather limited compared to buying from Amazon which has an easy return policy within 30 days. For other purchasing regions, buying from a reputable retailer with a good return policy and an optional protection plan would be good. In Australia, I heard Harvey Norman is nicer with returns compared to JB HIFI. 2. The robots with the best self cleaning will be Dreame’s L/X50 Ultra/L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and MOVA’s V50 Ultra P50S Ultra > MOVA’s P50 Ultra/ Pro Ultra > Roborock’s models that have spinning mops with the Multifunctional Dock 3.0 (roborock models with a vibrating mop have a washboard that is more difficult to clean as you can’t remove it) ≈ Narwal Freo models (completely detachable base) > Dreame’s models with the mop-driven wiper mop washboard (cleaning the wiper washboard is rather difficult since there’s too many nooks and crannies and you’d still have to get down to clean the areas the wipers can’t reach) > other combo robots with an all in one base station As for combo robots with roller mops and have an all in one base station, the washboard is generally flat with a few grooves so it’s pretty easy to clean. I believe most of their washboards are removable. However, it’ll require more cleaning in the mop compartment and dirty water tank. Most roller mop models have an annoying cylindrical component which drives the roller mop like an upright wet dry vacuum but you can’t remove or move it to give it a deeper clean even if gunk is stuck on it. The only combos that are close to the level of self cleaning for spinning mop models are Dreame’s Aqua 10 Pro track, the MOVA Z50 Ultra, and the Narwal Flow since both have self-cleaning mechanisms that are made to also clean the dirty water tank and the mop compartment while also having a very easy to clean mop compartment since the thing that moves the mops is also completely removable. If you want to support a US startup, you could look at the Matic since it’s a vacuum and mop robot but taking care of it looks rather easy since it lacks a base station. The maintenance involved is replacing the bag, refilling the water with a cleaning solution of choice, occasionally cleaning the roller mop, the roller mop filter, cleaning the brush roller and de clogging the mop tubes if needed.

9 months ago

The dustbin is soooooooo gross mainly because it seems that the reviewer only ran the robot to vacuum and mop at the same time which made most of the liquid spills actually get sucked up into the dustbin so some doesn’t even have a chance of actually being mopped.

9 months ago

I mainly wanted to see the robot not vacuum up the mess and basically smear it with the main and side brushes.

9 months ago

The Narwal flow is advertised to be able to do this and mop backwards. Give the robot a fairer go!

9 months ago

I think calling it a wet-dry vacuum (which really should be called a wet dry mopping machine) is too much of an exaggeration. It won’t be able to suck up more complex solid and liquid messes that wet dry mopping machines are capable of.

9 months ago

Narwal flow should vacuum the rug better and should be better with long hair and fur. Self cleaning on this seems to be pretty good too.

8 months ago

> I also remember seeing that some docks run hot air through the bag to stop odors, although I can't find anything about this. That’ll be the Freo Z ultra, Narwal flow, Aqua 10 ultra track, Aqua 10 roller/ultra roller (widespread leaking base issue due to a design flaw), and the MOVA V50 Ultra.

8 months ago

The Freo Z ultra is a great mopper as a spinning mop robot but it uses quite a bit of water so I’d connect it to my plumbing and it’s vacuuming isn’t as good. Its antitangle brush is pretty good.

6 months ago

Both the Narwal flow and the MOVA Z60 Ultra roller are well-suited for your home. The main differences are that the MOVA Z60 Ultra’s mopping is going to exert a constant 17N (3.7lb) of downward force on your hard floors, and the Narwal Flow is going to mop with 7-12N, which generally indicates better mopping. The MOVA Z60 Ultra roller also has a DuoSolution detergent tank (I expect mova to allow you to customize the pet odor solution to bring the hard floor conditioner but I’ll need to check with them on that) that will let you choose if you want it to mop with detergent and it’ll automatically add the detergent to the clean water tank for you instead of needing to manually add detergent to the Narwal Flow’s clean water tank. The Z60 ultra roller can extend the side brush to clean better under toe kicks and in corners, whereas the Narwal flow can only clean into corners, as it cannot extend the side brush. Unlike the Narwal flow, which claims to have a completely self-cleaning dirty water tank that is inaccessible to the user unless the robot is completely disassembled, the MOVA Z60 Ultra Roller has an easily accessible onboard dirty water tank that is easily cleaned. It’s up to you to decide if automatic detergent addition for mopping and mop washing, better cleaning into toe kicks, higher mopping downward force, and an accessible onboard dirty water tank are worth the extra money. MOVA did send me their Z60 Ultra Roller and the V50 Ultra to review and keep as part of their Reddit collaboration program. I’m in the process of finishing the review and should be able to publish it by Black Friday. It’s a mopping expert.

6 months ago

The Narwal flow’s all in one base station will also autoempty the debris in the dustbin into a dustbag regardless of whether or not it is plumped into your water line or if it stands alone.

6 months ago

I’m afraid customer service is wrong. There’s the autoempty chute you can see in the base station photos.

6 months ago

You can see the autoempty port here https://us.narwal.com/cdn/shop/files/narwalt10-narwal-robot-5889019.png?v=1763953663&width=1500

5 months ago

Would go for the Narwal Flow over the Aqua 10 Ultra Roller. I have no information regarding the QRevo Curv 2 Flow :(

5 months ago

Mainly because it should mop better than the dreame and the QRevo Curv 2 flow is mostly untested. If you want mopping and are okay with a bit more care, I’d also recommend the MOVA Z60 Ultra Roller Complete as it exerts 18N of downwards force, the highest downwards for a roller mop robot vacuum that’s widely available and mop that is comparable to some wet dry floor cleaners which usually exert around 20-25N. It’ll do better for edge cleaning as it can extend the side brush for cleaning closer under toe kicks. You can read my very in depth review of this robot on Reddit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1p7upea/mova_z60_ultra_roller_complete_43000_sq_ft_a/ MOVA sent me the Z60 Ultra Roller Complete and the V50 Ultra Complete to review and keep as part of their Reddit collaboration program. MOVA had no editorial control over my content. I hope this review helps you choose a robot that’s better suited for your home :)

5 months ago

> I also get pretty grossed out with mops so something that has good sterilisation/self cleaning features Many robots are good at this now! I also second being able to connect your robot to your water line if possible. I’d definitely check out the Narwal flow at 2999 (should be able to connect to your water line) as a mopping focused robot that does great with fur and is good at avoiding things. It’s a pretty hands off robot other than it being water hungry. Another cheaper option is the dreame X50 ultra at 1999. It can be connected to your water line that does better with fur as it has a larger dustbin and has a fur compression feature which works great if your fluffy friends shed a lot and avoids things well. It won’t mop as well as the flow but it’s very hands off.

5 months ago

IMO there are robots which have better computer vision when it comes to obstacle recognition and avoidance with better smart cleaning “AI”. Narwal seems to be leading in the AI aspect so I’d check out the Narwal flow for a relatively hands off roller mop robot (it does use more water compared to other roller mop robots).

4 months ago

I highly recommend the dirty water tank deodorization module (dreame, roborock, and Narwal sell this with the only difference being how long it can be used for) and the silver ion module for the clean water tank (needs to be bought on aliexpress if not in Asia due to local regulations). I’ve been able to ignore the water tank for more than a week with a heavily shedding, drooling, long-haired corgi. Most roller mop models have small dustbins to accommodate the roller mop, so other measures such as compressing fur with airflow (dreame and Mova) and allowing the user to set more frequent autoempty sessions (MOVA’s Z60 series allows you to set it to autoempty once every 5-15sqm) are taken to mitigate this. I don’t think the narwal flow has as much customization regarding this aspect, even though it’s a software fix :( I do have some things I don't like that much about the Z60 Ultra Roller Complete, though, which can be a dealbreaker for some.

10 months ago

The MOVA will be better at vacuuming and the Narwal will have the best smart cleaning mode and mopping but vacuuming isn’t as good as the MOVA and tanks need to be refilled more often.

10 months ago

Yep the narwal models are great for mopping, but are very water inefficient compared to other models with an onboard water tank. There's also the MOVA V50 Ultra with mop pads that can tilt which is good for uneven tile floors.

8 months ago

It is mainly a result of confirmation bias, and most online posts are subject to the self-selecting bias. Many well-made robot vacuums can go much longer, and so even well-made combo vacuum and mop robots are still lasting well. Brands I'd go for: Dreame can have well built robots (I'd avoid the aqua 10 roller for now as there seems to be a design flaw) customer service depends heavily on region and there's mixed feedback regarding this; Eufy has generally solid customer service all around; MOVA seems to have pretty solid build quality, other than the p50 for the NA market (broken front wheel) and the z50 (docking issue due to a design flaw), solid customer service seems to be better than dreame's even though they're serviced by the same group as dreame owns MOVA; Narwal which hasbuild quality seems to be pretty good with some reporting it still worked flawlessly even though it fell off a flight of stairs because their cliff sensors are a bit weird, customer service reviews are mixed; Roborock which has build quality seems to be solid overall but obstacle avoidance is their only flaw, mixed reviews of customer service from very negative to very positive); and Xiaomi which has generally solid build quality and customer service for its price (I bought from them before and when something got stuck in the wheel where I couldn't reach it, they fixed it and shipped it back in a week).

6 months ago

You are spoiled for options. Dreame, ecovacs, mova, and Narwal have roller mop robots. I’d narrow it down to mova and Narwal imo. Dreame’s Aqua 10 roller robots are clearly based off the MOVA Z60 ultra roller complete (MOVA is a subbrand of dreame but they have completely different R&D teams) but with less downwards force when mopping (dreame does 9-12N and MOVA currently exerts the highest downwards force at 17N). I have seen some people report that their Z60 Ultra Roller’s autoempty port gets clogged with fur but I haven’t had this happen at all after it has cleaned 43,000sqft and I have a long haired corgi that sheds all the time. Narwal is also a good choice with a track type mop exerting 12N but it lacks a detergent tank in the base station so you’d need to manually add the detergent when you refill the clean water tank (up to you to decide how important that is). MOVA did send me their v50 ultra complete and the Z60 ultra complete to review as part of their Reddit collaboration program. Both did great removing overnight dried on kitchen grease in one go. The z60 ultra roller was able to get rid of splattered dog friendly ice cream left by my dog with most of it gone in 1 pass and totally squeaky clean in the second pass. My review of the Z60 ultra roller complete is being finalized~~~

10 months ago

For spinning mops, the roborock ones are very very plush which is good for textured floor. The Narwal robots are even better at mopping textured floors since it has even thicker mops but it uses a lot more water compared to those with internal water tanks like the roborock qrevo.

10 months ago

If referring to the Narwal robots using only structured light, yes. If referring to the RGB camera enabled Narwal robots, they’re absolutely wrong. Narwal’s computer vision and their AI smart cleaning mode is one of the leading ones with roborock trailing in this area.

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8 months ago

We love our narwhal flow. Only a month old but it’s way better than all my roombas in together.

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