
Narwal - Freo Z Ultra
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"I actually been using the Narwal Freo Z Ultra for about 7 months now, and I m honestly super happy with it — especially when it comes to obstacle avoidance ... It uses a dual-camera system + dual AI chips, so it s surprisingly smart at dodging stuff. ... I ve got a dog too, and between toys, cords, and the occasional… accident 😅, it s done a great job steering clear. I haven t had any “poopocalypse” incidents since switching."
"My freo z ultra does extremely well avoiding cluttered, wires, ect. ... And my house has crap everywhere."
"For me obstacle avoidance tops everything, so I am very pleased with my Narwal Z ... A stuck robot is a useless robot no matter how water efficient it is or how high a treshold it can cross."
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"Now I have the Freo Z Ultra and the automatic water exchanger unit hooked up to my plumbing... It's insane how good it is. Simply insane."
"it’s smart cleaning “Freo” mode is currently the best."
"I also have the automatic water exchange unit for it. Absolute game changer."
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"6 pets (3 cats, 3 dogs), 4 long haired humans, zero tangles from fur or humans."
"Because when I opened the roller to remove the business cards, it was completely devoid of any tangles. No fur, no hair, no cords. The roller was clean, and just the business cards were stuck in there."
"they do great with tangle-free tech ... My Freo Z never has this problem."
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"Now I have the Freo Z Ultra and the automatic water exchanger unit hooked up to my plumbing... It's insane how good it is. Simply insane."
"I also have the automatic water exchange unit for it. Absolute game changer."
"I just run it daily and it keeps the place clean without me doing much."
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"The Narwal is pretty quiet when you have it on the lower settings. ... I run it all the time when my 3 year old naps."
"It’s louder than the Narwal Freo Z Ultra. ... You can definitely work from home with the Narwal working."
"it s really quiet when it runs — I barely notice it."
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"Also I didn’t like how much data the Narwal sent to servers. ... In the 2 weeks I had it, my firewall logs showed the Narwal sent over 20 GB of data. ... I had the remote video disabled so assume it was for vision AI analysis. ... Still, it shouldn’t need to send that much data."
"Also I didn’t like how much data the Narwal sent to servers. ... In the 2 weeks I had it, my firewall logs showed the Narwal sent over 20 GB of data. ... I had the remote video disabled so assume it was for vision AI analysis. ... Still, it shouldn’t need to send that much data."
"My firewall said the robot sent 2.5 GB to Narwal after a cleaning on Sunday. ... That bothers me, but I don't know that any of the Chinese manufacturers are strong for privacy."
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"Not great on carpet."
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"The only con for me is the lack of onboard water tank which makes it go back often to the station."
"If you wouldn’t like to carry your base station up, don’t get the Narwal. ... the lack of an onboard water tank means it can only clean about 5-15 square meters before having to clean its mops again."
"The freo x and freo z our water hogs so don t buy one unless you re okay replacing the water and dumping the dirty water after every single mopping run in a small house and mid-run on a big house."
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"Shoestrings, socks and blankets hanging down will likely be a problem. Even if it manages to avoid them once, there’s no guarantee it’ll avoid them the next time."
"doesn't get close enough to the kick boards in the kitchen"
"Also treshold detection. It tends to ride up to them and not clean the inch next to the treshold because of that."
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"Their replacement accessories are ridiculously priced (look elsewhere)."
I went with the Narwal Freo Z Ultra after comparing a few options, and it’s been a game-changer. It handles fur and mixed floors easily, and the self-cleaning base makes upkeep effortless. I looked at Roborock and Qrevo too, but the Freo felt more refined for daily use. With Prime Day around the corner and big discounts expected, now’s a great time to grab it.
r/RobotVacuums • Best robot vacuum under $1000? ->I got the Narwal Freo Z Ultra, and I've been really impressed with it. It's got this great feature where you can control the water output precisely, so you don't have to worry about it leaking or dispensing water when you just want to vacuum. Plus, the mapping and navigation are top-notch, and it handles pet hair like a champ. It's a bit of an upgrade, but it's worth it if you want a hassle-free cleaning experience.
r/RobotVacuums • Which model is best at obstacle avoidance and not tangling hair? ->I got the Narwal Freo Z Ultra a few months ago, and it’s honestly been a game changer. It vacuums and mops without leaving streaks, and it’s been great on shiny floors. What I really love is how little effort it takes—the base cleans and dries the mops on its own, so I barely have to lift a finger. It usually goes for just under £1000, but with Prime Day discounts, now’s probably the best time to get one.
r/RobotVacuums • UK Mop and Vacuum Recommendations for Shiny Floor ->The freo x and freo z our water hogs so don't buy one unless you're okay replacing the water and dumping the dirty water after every single mopping run in a small house and mid-run on a big house.
r/RobotVacuums • Best High-End Robot? ->Narwal Is the only robot that even attempts to clean the baseboard but the only thing the frio z or x does is run a muff along it. It doesn't actually clean. It's a duster. And the frio x and z have some other problems. Notably they are water hogs and you have to refill the water all the time. After every single run.
r/RobotVacuums • Are there robot vacuums with a baseboard-cleaning functionality ->My enthusiasm is based on three factors. The first is never having to change the water. The second and arguably more important one is that this is the only robot I've ever tested that never got clogged. If you live with animals or kids, you have to breathe larger than Cheerios on your floor. And no matter what anyone says, almost every robot in the world struggles with debris that size. But I could show you video of the 3i literally eating everything on the floor. It was insane to watch. Those two front. Sweepers are the most efficient that I've ever seen. Just fantastic. And then the third is that the mop which is a roller actually extends out as opposed to a number of robots that have gotten into rollers but they don't extend. I mean I know it sounds like I'm paid by the company but I assure you, I am not. It was just the best unit I've ever used and I've held on to it.
r/RobotVacuums • Prime Day last chance- a few hours left to score PD deals. Are you on the fence? Let's cut through it. ->It's a toss-up under these conditions. The freo z is a good model but a water hog. You can read my review of it. You have to change the water so often that it's a deal-breaker for me. Now they have a kit so you can wire it to your water line and you don't have to change it anymore but that's 200 bucks. So now we're talking about the cost of the freo plus the water line kit versus the l40. I keep recommending the l40 not because I thought it was a really great premium robot. It was a just fine premium robot. But when you compare it to other $500 robots, it blows them out of the water. So tldr, l40 ultra.
r/RobotVacuums • Prime Day last chance- a few hours left to score PD deals. Are you on the fence? Let's cut through it. ->Oy. First, you're doing great... I suffer from the same problems which is why I got into robots. And they DO help. my mood is so much better just seeing the clean floor. I do think it'll help with that. It'll still need SOME intervention, so set expectations right. but... that's ok. its going to get much better. Generally, i would say that as crappy as it is, you get more when you pay more. but that doesn't mean you NEED more... some features are just nice to have, not essential. So don't feel you NEED the 3i S10 or the Saros 10. You can get away with less. So my main concerns are the pet accidents and the cooking messes. My vacuums struggle most in the kitchen, because I drop stuff while cooking, and while it can deal with small stuff (under the size of a cheerio) bigger stuff is an issue. Also, very few mops are good enough to get out kitchen stains on their own. But I have another solution for that! If you can clean up the bigger stuff, you'll be a lot happier w the robots performance. On the pet messes... almost every vacuum out there, certainly the ones you mention, have poop avoidance. So you're good. Urine is different.... but on some level, you want the robot to get those, anyways. I don't like the Eufy bots. Ive explained why over and over again, but that's also just me. Lots of people are super happy with them, but that won't make me recommend them. I love the S8 MaxV Ultra, and its universally liked in the industry, so that's not just me. I feel like the Saros 10 is an incremental improvement over the S8, so its worth a few extra hundred bucks, but not like, 700$. I LOVE the 3i... but people have rightful concerns.. its a new company. Its VERY heavy. its a tall robot. I'm very, very happy with it, and its gotten very good reviews from other outlets like vacuum wars and tom's... so I feel pretty good about it, but I like it for you for a different reason. Its autonomous. You don't ever have to change the water, and it vacuums up EVERYTHING. ALL THE THINGS. big, small, whatever.
r/RobotVacuums • Prime Day last chance- a few hours left to score PD deals. Are you on the fence? Let's cut through it. ->Narwal Freo Z Ultra is the best with avoidance.
r/RobotVacuums • is there really a robot vacuum that truly avoids pet mistakes ->Narwal Freo Z Ultra
r/RobotVacuums • It's December! Time to choose the robot vacuum of 2024! ->Brushes sides and corners just fine with two brushes that reach past the body, and is literally the best mop in a robot. Actual mops don't have onboard water tanks either.
r/RobotVacuums • It's December! Time to choose the robot vacuum of 2024! ->I have the e25 and the Freo z ultra both installed in my home right now. In my experience, the Narwal clears the e25 by a long mile largely due to its superior navigation (e25 gets stuck in between furniture legs that are about the width of the robot, always trucks over furniture legs that lay low to the ground), quietness when drying wet mop (e25 emits an annoying buzzing sound while it drys), less maintenance due to lack of onboard dirty water tank, and expanded features and customization in the app. Bonus is the Narwal was purchased from Costco. For mopping, yes the Narwal requires more visits to base for mop washing due to lack of onboard water tank, but in terms of mopping effectiveness, I feel like they are neck and neck.
r/RobotVacuums • Eufy E28 or NARWAL Freo Z Ultra ->My freo z ultra does extremely well avoiding cluttered, wires, ect. It has a few deficits on carpet vacuuming but overall I'm happy with it. And my house has crap everywhere.
r/RobotVacuums • Do any robot vacuums actually avoid/not get stuck by clutter? ->Yes, I think it bests these options for this use case. The main issue I have with it is app limitations, particularly the ability to divide open floor plans, but there are ways to work around this.
r/RobotVacuums • Best Robot Vacuum Mop Combo: Eufy Omni S1 Pro vs Dreame X40 Ultra vs Roborock Qrevo Curv vs Other? ->The only system that really seems to work to prevent tangles is the single-ended roller design. The cutter systems aren't cuttin' it. The only two bots that have that currently are the Roborock Qrevo Curv and the Narwal Freo Z. Both use bags, though. The Curv's biggest limitation is obstacle detection and avoidance. The Freo's biggest limitation is app functionality. Another possibility is the Shark PowerDetect 2-in-1 with the Pro base because it's probably the best bagless model, if that's important. It has combs to prevent tangles, but I haven't found definitive reviews to indicate how effective it is, and I'm skeptical.
r/RobotVacuums • BEST robot vacuum for dog hair ->I second the Freo Z. The gals in my home shed 2' long hairs, that have brought every other vac to their knees. Haven't seen a single hair trapped on the roller of the Freo Z so far. And I did check the bin to make sure it was picking some up and it was full of hair. Very impressive. These single-ended roller designs seem to be more effective than cutting solutions from Dreame and others.
r/RobotVacuums • Best robot vacuum for long hair? ->I also believe the Freo Z is the best choice here. But note the app has significant limitations... Main one is dividing rooms in open areas, but you can get around this by erecting temporary walls (cardboard, trash bags, tape, etc) just for the mapping.
r/RobotVacuums • Best robot vacuum when obstacles and carpets are not an issue. ->Agreed. Qrevo Master's obstacle avoidance is absolute trash. It may as well not exist at all. I had Narwal Freo Z Ultra before this and I kind of regret returning that and getting this. The only thing I hated about the Narwal was not having an onboard water tank and not having extending floor sweeping arm, but obstacle avoidance on it was top notch. Never got stuck on anything. Qrevo is so dumb in comparison. Even if it detects something, it will still push it around because it has no clue where the obstacle exactly is. Having to get all the cords, objects off the ground is no different to what I was doing when I was using 1st gen xiaomi robot vac. I ran the vacuum this morning after I left and made sure to clean up everything from the floor but somehow this damn thing got something stuck in its main brush. Seriously frustrated with this product.
r/Roborock • Qrevo Master/Pro obstacle avoidance is extremely sub par ->If you really need good obstacle avoidance then the narwal freo z ultra is one of the best. Most robots that mop have a carpet sensor to prevent wetting rugs/carpets. Plus they can raise the mop pads or leave them at the base automatically. What’s your budget and what region/country are you located? Is your house multi story?
r/RobotVacuums • Robot Vacuum Recommendation for Mostly hardwood floor! ->Nothing is better than the Dyson for vacuuming only. But the narwal freo z, roborock curv, or dreame l40 or x40 ultra (both would need tricut brush roller to be purchased) would be good for vac and mop.
r/Roborock • Long pet hair on rugs- looking for updated info ->If obstacle avoidance is important then you should look at the narwal freo z ultra if it’s in your price range.
r/RobotVacuums • From what I've heard, the robot Vaccum using Ecovacs AIVI 3.0 is not good at avoiding other obstacles, but it's learned to avoid obstacles that are small Lego blocks. Can anyone with an X8 Omni check if they are good at avoiding Lego or similar small rectangular block types? ->Mine was $1500. I got it for $500 off on prime day last year. So $1k I guess. Wonderful purchase I love it. It's super quiet, it vacuums and mops. It uses ai to learn the cleaning area, avoid obstacles and hazards. I've literally never had an issue with it. You can set it to zone clean or room clean, tell it what types of floors are in what areas. I've never had to do that though because it identified them automatically. It cleans baseboards. It's self cleaning all I have to do is empty the dirty water tank and refill the clean water tank at the base station. Floors look spotless after it's done. Narwal Freo Z Ultra if anyone's interested. It's currently $849 on Amazon for prime day
r/unpopularopinion • Robot vacuums are expensive and a waste of time. ->I have been using NARWAL Freo Z Ultra for 6 months. I'm satisfied with it so far. Mopping performance is great. It does a pretty good job for Obstacle Avoidance, except for some little issues like detecting things like cables.
r/RobotVacuums • Want to make a first purchase - overwhelmed! ->I totally get it — the fur and muddy paw prints drive me nuts. I got the Narwal Freo Z Ultra and it’s been clutch. Super strong suction, dual mops, avoids obstacle — I just run it daily and it keeps the place clean without me doing much.
r/RobotVacuums • Vac mop for a dog breeder ->I brought my Freo Z Ultra during Black Friday after searching some YouTube reviews. I liked that! Cleaning performance is great. The object avoidance algorithm is slick.
r/RobotVacuums • Narwal FREO Z Ultra vs Dreame L40 Ultra ->Consider Narwal. I bought one for each of my two floors and they performed extremely well.
r/RobotVacuums • First time buying a robot vacuum, recommendations needed ->We like our Z Ultra. Brought this one nearly 8 months ago. Narwal always shows a great performance in mopping. And the quietness is a bonus.
r/RobotVacuums • Advice, best mop/vacuum combo ->We like our Z Ultra. Brought this one nearly 8 months ago. Narwal always shows a great performance in mopping. And the quietness is a bonus.
r/RobotVacuums • Advice, best mop/vacuum combo ->I’ve actually been using the Narwal Freo Z Ultra for about 7 months now, and I’m honestly super happy with it — especially when it comes to obstacle avoidance (which was a huge concern for me too).It uses a dual-camera system + dual AI chips, so it’s surprisingly smart at dodging stuff. I’ve got a dog too, and between toys, cords, and the occasional… accident 😅, it’s done a great job steering clear. I haven’t had any “poopocalypse” incidents since switching.Also love that it separates dirty and clean water tanks for mopping (dry/wet separation is legit), and it’s really quiet when it runs — I barely notice it. Can’t speak for the Dreame X40 Ultra, but from my own daily use, the Freo Z Ultra has been totally worth it.
r/RobotVacuums • Best obstacle avoidance robot vacuum – Narwal Freo Z Ultra or Dreame X40 Ultra? ->I have been using NARWAL Freo Z Ultra for 6 months. I'm satisfied with it so far. Mopping performance is great. It does a pretty good job for Obstacle Avoidance, except for some little issues like detecting things like cables.
r/RobotVacuums • Looking for recommendations: Mova P50 Pro Ultra / DREAME X50 Ultra / NARWAL Freo Z Ultra ->i have a small dog too, so i get the concern — hair builds up fast. i’ve been using the narwal freo z ultra lately and it’s handled the shedding pretty well. the brush doesn’t really get tangled, and it cleans the mop by itself which is nice. not perfect, but for mostly hard floors and some rugs like you mentioned, it’s been solid so far.
r/RobotVacuums • 2 long hair shedding dogs, would any robot vacuum work? ->My situation is pretty similar. I have one dog, rugs, and the floor is always a mess, though mine are wood instead of tile. I’ve been using the Freo Z Ultra for about 8 months and it’s been great. The obstacle avoidance is really solid and it picks up pet hair really well. Definitely worth a look if you’re dealing with the same kind of chaos.
r/RobotVacuums • Best robot vacuum under $1000? ->I’ve had the Narwal Freo Z Ultra for almost a year. It’s been great. Picks up dirt well, mops fine, and rarely gets stuck. One thing I really like is the obstacle avoidance, works better than I expected. It does use a bit more water than I expected, but that’s never been a big deal for me, I don’t mind that. Feels worth it for how clean the floors get. No major issues so far. Would recommend if you want something that just works.
r/RobotVacuums • Need Real Feedback Before I Drop $$$ – Roborock, Dreame, Ecovacs, Eufy… (or Others) - Help Me Decide ->Dreame and Narwal Freo Z Ultra are best at avoiding pet “gifts” meant only for you to enjoy. I think the best protection is offense by the robot to avoid any gifts so you’d never have to deal with an interesting new aroma wafting through the air. The Eufy S1 Pro is also good at this too but it seems this is their first model with a camera that can achieve this sort of pet gift avoidance as I haven’t seen their X10 Pro Omni model with a camera achieve this level of pet gift care.
r/RobotVacuums • Best robot vacuum for pet owners ->I think the Dreame L/X40 Ultra (choose whichever is cheaper) would be a better fit for you with the TriCut brush. Best object recognition and obstacle avoidance (Narwal is similarly as good) Better vacuuming than the Narwal but not as great as the Roborock Curv (I don’t think that the price justifies its performance) The Eufy S1 pro and the Narwal Freo z are great at raw mopping performance but the Eufy can’t deal with hair well and it seems vacuuming is a bit of an issue. Dreame’s eh raw mopping is compensated by its onboard CleanGenius to help it decide whether to go over areas.
r/RobotVacuums • Recommendations for a Vacuum/Mop for a Busy Household ->Generally: Dreame will have the best edge cleaning. This is on the x30 ultra and newer with the L/X40 ultra and newer models having an extendable side brush with the best extension algorithm right now. Mop extension lacks a spring which means it can ride up on quarter round floor moldings if your home has any. Roborock Saros 10R and the QRevo Edge/Curv are nice choices if there are no cables or pet accidents for it to eat. Narwal is a very solid option. The Freo Z ultra has the best smart cleaning mode. It’s okay taking care of things like hair and visible dust but still isn’t as good as vacuuming as it is at mopping. Eufy s1 pro is a very solid mopping option. Won’t edge clean as well as the above models but mops pretty well.
r/RobotVacuums • Best mop vacuum in the market for hardwood ->Yep this is sadly true. Dreame, roborock, and Narwal don’t have good customer service compared to Eufy and Xiaomi (if this brand is available). It seems iRobot is also struggling with customer service so I’d recommend buying robots from an authorized retailer like Costco for easier customer service if you need to return it if it’s defective.
r/RobotVacuums • Best Robot Vacuum and Mop to Buy with Good Suction? ->CES2025 just announced many new models with very interesting features, which means for fiscally prudent customers, liquidation sales are sooon!!!!! The Freo Z ultra sadly isn’t as great at mopping as it is at vacuuming buttttt it’s smart cleaning “Freo” mode is currently the best. MOVA P10 Pro Ultra can also be considered for about 1000 CAD last time I checked on Amazon. It’s essentially the Dreame L40 Ultra without mop removal. MOVA is a dreame subbrand.
r/RobotVacuums • Help for Robot Vacuum Mop ->What is your purchasing region? I recommend you pair it to your phone then share the robot with your grandparents’ account or log into your account on their phone. You can then set it up for them and put it on a schedule. Roborock’s app ui seems to be the easiest. NarWal’s app also looks pretty easy to use. NarWal’s base station will be the easiest to clean and is easily compatible with a water exchanging module that can be hooked up to your water line. Of course you need to give it a good clean once every few weeks or so. Dreame’s app is simply too overwhelming with all the customization.
r/RobotVacuums • Ideal robot Vacuum for the elderly? ->Would you like it to extend and wiggle the mops? I think this feature is best for cleaning stains under things like fridges or cleaning along the edges if your dog likes to drool along the edges too (mine does). There are three ways for anti tangling to happen. 1. Combs in the brush compartment. This is the least effective way. Ecovacs uses this method but reviewers have found it does get tangled with long hair. 3i and Eufy also uses this technique and I don’t know what reviewers say. 2. Active cutting of hair when it gets tangled Dreame uses this method. This method relies on the hair first getting tangled and then the hair strands will enter a groove where there is a hidden knife to cut the hair, sending it into the dust box with the vacuum fan’s help. Dreame’s brush is also engineered for the hidden knife to move like a razor after 23 revolutions. In my experience, it’s been stellar at long hair and my long haired corgi’s fur. Hair can get tangled on the sides if you use their old brush cover, they have a new brush cover now to cover the non-brush compartment of the TriCut brush and it works great at preventing any hair from getting to the sides. Midea also utilizes this method in a different way. It has really small razor blades built into the top of the brush compartment and is programmed to vibrate like a shaving razor up there to cut off any hair and the vacuum will bring the hair into the dust box. It seems to work well. The less efficient way I’ve seen this implemented is the base station having a blade cut the hair at the brush. The Mijia M30 Pro does this (stupid 3i Robotix) and it doesn’t work very well. The last way is using the airflow itself to get rid of tangled hair. There are brushes shaped like an archimedes screw with the brush fibers at a certain angle so any tangled hair will move to the narrow end of the brush and the vacuum inlet at the narrow end will suck it into the dust box Narwal does this. Dreame’s new models (currently only in mainland china) do this with two conical brushes, one rubber and one rubber and fiber bristles to suit both carpeted and hard floors. They solve a current problem with this conical shape as the narrower end of the brush will have less to no contact with the ground, reducing its cleaning ability. Dreame hid the narrow end and only the parts where it can have contact with the floor are exposed. Roborock also does this with a twist. Instead of the narrow end being to a side, it uses two brushes where the narrow ends point to each other and any hair will hence go to the middle instead of the side. Both the cutting brush and the conical brush design is great for any long hairs. The dreame cutting brush method is more economical as it isn’t restricted to one model only. If you wouldn’t like to carry your base station up, don’t get the Narwal. Although it has a handle for easier carrying, the lack of an onboard water tank means it can only clean about 5-15 square meters before having to clean its mops again. I also wouldn’t really recommend it as after any robot mop combo with a mop cleaning station makes the mops really wet after cleaning it, which doesn’t seem great for your wood floors. https://www.reddit.com/r/CleaningTips/comments/o011xc/how_do_you_properly_cleanmop_wax_finished_floors/?rdt=59160 Roborock does great too. The Q Revo Master Edge is also very tangle free with the duo divide brush. Best computer vision and related cleaning algorithm would go to Dreame’s X/L40 ultra. It’s smart enough to detect pet areas and give it special attention. Next year’s dreame X50 will have double rollers that are designed to be even better than the current TriCut brush. I heard it doesn’t do so well with much thicker strands that can’t fit into the razor compartment so the airflow approach to de tangling hair seems to be a lot better. I would have recommended the Eufy S1 Pro if it was good at dealing with long hair. It is a very solid robot mop. I also have qualms about the ozone generator in the water tank as I’m worried it could degrade the rubber sealing and leak….
r/RobotVacuums • Another 'best robo-vacuum for me' thread ->Currently, the Eufy S1 Pro and the Narwal Freo Z Ultra's mopping performance is closest to that of a regular mop and bucket. Of course, it cannot replace manual mopping with a vacuum mop machine or a good spin mop, but it reduces the frequency of having to do so. The same goes for vacuuming. If you expect it to take care of fur + cat litter on the floor, it'll work just fine. New models, such as the MOVA Z50 Ultra and the Narwal Flow, which have a much better track-type roller mop and much better mopping, are being launched this year in the US, afaik. What do you mean by easy and minimal management of the robot? Please explain more about what you expect from your little helper so we can better understand <3 Please do share your purchasing region (usually country), your expected budget in your local currency, and your home environment\~ **Your home environment** (copied and pasted): Flooring and care requirements, if any. Is long hair and/or pet fur frequently shed at home? Do you have any pets? If so, do your pets make messes that can be cleaned up by a robot (drool, fur balls) and/or do they make messes that cannot be cleaned up by a robot (vomit/feces/pee)? Does your pet have sensitive skin? If your pet uses a litter box, do they frequently spill the litter outside the box? How much do you value privacy? Would you be okay with the robot having its own RGB camera and LED light moving around or a robot without this and only laser distance sensors (LDS) and ultrasound sensors? There is generally a trade-off between object recognition and privacy. For mopping Do you live in a region of hard or soft water? Are you planning to connect this model to a water line? For places with hard water, please appropriately treat your water before it enters the base station’s pipes\~
r/RobotVacuums • Which robot vacuum to get: Dyson or Karcher or Roborock? ->Dreame/MOVA models with an RGB camera and Narwal camera enabled models are best at obstacle avoidance. As for hair: dreame/MOVA models with the TriCut brush will do just fine with human hair and pet fur. For longer hair, I’d look at the dreame L/X40 and newer (MOVA P10 Pro Ultra and newer) as the new side brush design is more tangle resistant compared to the previous one. If your pet sheds a lot, I’d recommend the Dreame x50 ultra as it can compress fur in its dustbin as it vacuums. Narwal’s Freo Z Ultra is a good choice for hair and fur too. It has great obstacle avoidance and will have the best smart cleaning program. There is also the LDS-only Freo Z10 which will be able to mop closer to edges and untangle any tangled hair on its side brushes These models all are combo models that mop much better than a swiffer. Upcoming models that will mop better than the previous models: MOVA Z50 Ultra and the Narwal Flow.
r/RobotVacuums • Choosing a car was easier than choosing a robot vacuum ->Roborock’s QRevo series and the Narwal Freo series with the all in one base station have completely removable mop pad cleaning trays (narwal’s Freo X Ultra, Freo Pro, and Freo Z’s entire bottom tray can be easily removed for cleaning). There is also the dreame x50 ultra with the AceClean system but I think it’s too expensive right now
r/RobotVacuums • Robot Vacuum Suggestion! ->Roborock isn’t as good as other brands when it comes to poop avoidance. Dreame, Eufy S1 pro, and Narwal are much better at this. MOVA is a subbrand of dreame. Narwhal Freo Z ultra Narwal flow should be better for carpets though but the lack of any hair tangle measures on the mop is an issue considering how the MOVA Z50 Ultra which mops great and works great with long hair with similar poop avoidance performance has combs to help with hair tangles on the mop. Eufy also doesn’t have very good carpet cleaning and as good edge cleaning compared to the previous two An all rounder should be the dreame X50 Ultra for fur compression if there are heavy shedders or the dreame x40 ultra/ MOVA P10 Pro Ultra if the main issue is mainly just long hair.
r/RobotVacuums • Vac+Mop-Poop ->How tall is the piece of transition? For a single one up to 30mm, the roborock models with the AdaptiLift chassis (the most expensive QRevo Curv/Edge and the Saros line). Anything higher up to 4.2cm, if a threshold is less than 9cm long (5.2cm if it is at least 9cm long), will need the Dreame X50 Ultra or any equivalent MOVA model (V50 Ultra). I am aware that Dreame's L/X50 Ultra and any model (such as MOVA's V50 Ultra or the rare UK-only Dreame L40s Pro Ultra) that uses dual conical brushes has a *live fur compression* feature (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOOU0uJsVdU), which helps mitigate the issue of pet fur clogging the dustbin, even though the space isn't fully utilized. I saw it in action, and I think it lives up to its claim. It also cleans its filter when auto-emptying. This should be helpful for homes with heavy shedders such as yours\~ For paw prints, I think a robot that can identify messes like this and act accordingly would be important too. Dreame and Narwal do well with this if you turn on certain functions, such as their smart cleaning mode and intelligent mess detection.
r/RobotVacuums • Best vacuum/mop for two dogs who shed a lot ->Many robots cannot mop with warm or hot water. This is currently a new feature on upright vacuum mop combos. Currently there is only hot water mop washing on most models. The roborock Saros 10 claims to mop with hot water up to 70° and the Saros 10R claims to mop with warm water. I am skeptical of this claim as it doesn’t use a roller mop where it feasibly could live up to this claim. There is the upcoming MOVA Z50 Ultra that can mop with constant 36° water as it has a track type roller mop which makes this claim achievable. Generally, most robot vacuums also do fail when it comes to living up to the hot water mop washing claim. Dreame made models do reach the advertised temperature but it is mainly only for a moment and it’ll usually be washing the mops with lukewarm to warm water In the EU market, I’d recommend Xiaomi as the most cost effective robot vacuum mop combo brand unless you’d like the extra bells and whistles such as hot water mop washing + mop extension where it’ll be better to consider brands like dreame. Most of its combo models are compatible with the anti-tangling dreame TriCut brush. It works well in my home with a long haired corgi and people with long hair. The Xiaomi x20 pro looks rather nice. For obstacle avoidance, please tidy up your cables. Most LDS-only robots are rather stupid when it comes to reflective or transparent walls. I recommend models with good obstacle avoidance if your cat makes messes robots cannot clean and must avoid at all costs. This usually requires RGB cameras. If the best obstacle avoidance is what you’re looking for: Narwal Freo Z ultra or any of their RGB camera enabled robots. It currently seems to have the best (not perfect!) smart cleaning mode. Its strength lies in its good mopping and anti-tangling but sadly not vacuuming. Dreame RGB camera enabled models starting from the X30 Ultra and onwards. MOVA is a subbrand of dreame so RGB camera enabled robots from the P10 Pro Ultra and newer will perform similarly as it will use the same obstacle avoidance software. Dreame is a rather good all rounder combo robot with the best edge cleaning. Antitangling performance is also rather good. Eufy S1 Pro and other models that will use the “3D Matrix” binocular infrared 3D dToF sensor array. Roborock is also a good all rounder with the easiest app to use but it will not be as good avoiding obstacles such as cables and pet messes compared to other brands, especially on carpets. For self cleaning: Dreame/MOVA models with the AceClean dryboard where water jets are used to clean the mops. The x50 ultra will be best at self cleaning including cleaning its own filter when autoemptying but it is currently outside your budget. > dreame models that use the self driven wipers on the mop washboard ≈ roborock models using a mop washboard with motorized wipers ≈ NarWal’s mop washboard where they flush the washboard with water before and after washing the mops.
r/RobotVacuums • Please help me choose my first robot ever. Lost between Roborock, dreame, Eufy, Shark? ->This is definitely not exclusive on the ecovacs X9 pro omni. Ecovacs is late to this feature. Models that can do this well: Dreame’s L/X40 Ultra and newer (assuming there’s an RGB camera), Narwal Freo Z Ultra; Roborock Saros series and CurvX, MOVA P10 Pro Ultra, P50 Pro Ultra, Z50 Ultra, V50 Ultra
r/RobotVacuums • Robot Vac/mop sensing feature? ->Eufy is not mentioned because it does not have this capability. Best mopping: Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track and the MOVA Z50 Ultra has the best raw mopping performance. If your pets are stinky, the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track or the MOVA V50 Ultra will be my recommendation as it has the duosolution detergent tank which means it can use a special odor neutralizing solution or your regular floor cleaning solution based on your preferences set in the app. The MOVA V50 Ultra does mop better than the Dreame X50 Ultra because it can spin its mops up to 260rpm when it detects dried on stains and liquids and because it has a new mop pad holder that basically has suspension as it can go up 2mm and down 1mm downwards and tilt up to 5° to put as even pressure as possible on uneven floors. Honorable mention: Narwal Freo Z Ultra. Shame it cannot lift its side brushes. Variable mopping pressure of 8-12N but pales in comparison to the 18N of mopping pressure by the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track and the MOVA Z50 Ultra. Best software for detecting liquids and appropriately dealing with them: Dreame L/X40 and newer including the Aqua 10 pro track based on reviews. The MOVA Z50 ultra and the other MOVA models mentioned are also pretty good too at detecting liquids. Previously mentioned Roborock and Narwal models also seem to do well. I think all the models I mentioned should be on par for automatic remopping. Hardware: All models I mentioned should have a solid build quality.
r/RobotVacuums • Robot Vac/mop sensing feature? ->Narwal and dreame are the most problem proof with obstacle avoidance. The Narwal Freo Z Ultra fits your needs and so does the Dreame L/X40 Ultra. For cheaper options with not as good obstacle avoidance, you could consider: Dreame L20/L30/L40 If you want it to mop, I recommend connecting the base station to the water line.
r/RobotVacuums • Are there any robot vacuums that can be controlled remotely like a drone with a live camera feed and joystick controls? ->After daily vacuuming then mopping, my hardwood floors became notably softer and had a shine. I’d recommend robots with roller mops or spinning mops. For roller mop robots, I’d recommend the eufy S1 (Pro), eufy E25/E28, MOVA Z50 Ultra, and the Narwal Flow. All of these robots except for the eufy E25/E28 will have good obstacle avoidance. For spinning mop robots, I’d recommend dreame/MOVA robots with the AceClean/jetspray dryboard, the Narwal Freo line with an all in one base station, the roborock qrevo line. If obstacle avoidance is important, I’d consider the Dreame L40S Pro Ultra, L/X50 Ultra and the Narwal Z/Z10 Ultra.
r/HardWoodFloors • Robot Vacuum Mopping Hardwood? ->After daily vacuuming then mopping, my hardwood floors became notably softer and had a shine. I’d recommend robots with roller mops or spinning mops. For roller mop robots, I’d recommend the eufy S1 (Pro), eufy E25/E28, MOVA Z50 Ultra, and the Narwal Flow. All of these robots except for the eufy E25/E28 will have good obstacle avoidance. For spinning mop robots, I’d recommend dreame/MOVA robots with the AceClean/jetspray dryboard, the Narwal Freo line with an all in one base station, the roborock qrevo line. If obstacle avoidance is important, I’d consider the Dreame L40S Pro Ultra, L/X50 Ultra and the Narwal Z/Z10 Ultra.
r/HardWoodFloors • Robot Vacuum Mopping Hardwood? ->Both the Narwal Freo Z Ultra and the Dreame L/X40 Ultra do well avoiding cables and pet messes. Only difference is that the Dreame has to backtrack a bit for the computer to process the distance and whatnot since it only has one RGB camera but the Narwal Freo Z Ultra doesn't need to do this as it has binocular RGB cameras.
r/RobotVacuums • Best obstacle avoidance robot vacuum – Narwal Freo Z Ultra or Dreame X40 Ultra? ->I think the Narwal Freo Z Ultra is the “smartest” of them all for smart cleaning but won’t do so well for vacuuming as mopping is its key strength. The Matic seems to be rather smart too but it is US-only. Object avoidance: Dreame, eufy S1 Pro, and the Narwal Freo Z ultra will do the best. Narwal’s binocular RGB cameras mean it avoids them smoothly. Dreame’s own binocular RGB cameras on the Aqua 10 pro track show similar smoothness when avoiding obstacles. Hair and fur: Dreame and MOVA’s duostream brushes, eufy E25/E28 DuoDivide dupe brushes, roborock DuoDivide brushes, Narwal’s conical brush, > dreame TriCut brush
r/RobotVacuums • Best High-End Robot? ->MOVA's Z50 Ultra is even better than the Eufy S1 Pro at mopping and performs decently with hair as it has a 300mL dustbin and the Dreame Tricut brush, which has worked well in my home with long hair and a long-haired corgi. I'd get this from Harvey Norman (with a protection plan for easy returns/replacement). JB HIFI seems to be harder with returns as users report JB HIFI needing to confirm with the manufacturer. Unfortunately, the good EOFY sale price of about 2000 AUD is now gone and it now sells at 3000 (ouch..), and no official plumbing kit is sold in Australia (get it from aliexpress or Taobao). If there's no threshold taller than 2.2 cm in your home, I'd check out the L40s Pro Ultra, which is essentially the Dreame X50 Ultra without the enhanced threshold crossing and retractable LIDAR. However, the battery life on the X50 Ultra and the L40s Pro Ultra isn't that good compared to the older Dreame models and the MOVA Z50 Ultra... As for food, I'm afraid no robot can sufficiently take care of this without making a mess you have to clean up. But good ones should identify food that isn't crumbs and avoid it, and tell you so in the app. The Narwal Freo Z Ultra will have the best smart cleaning mode and arguably the best robot mopper with spinning mops, but is rather water inefficient for larger homes, so connecting it to your plumbing is basically a must.
r/RobotVacuums • Stuck on what robot to get (AU) ->Sadly, I couldn't find the MOVA z50 Ultra on Amazon, and it seems the only other sales date will be during Black Friday in November :( If you're really insistent on the MOVA Z50 Ultra, I'll ask MOVA about any possible discounts. For the other robots: The Narwal Freo Z Ultra will feature the best smart cleaning mode, allowing for hands-off cleaning without requiring in-depth settings adjustments, thanks to its significantly improved computer vision compared to the Roborock S10R. However, roborock's Saros 10R app is easier to use and there are less disposables than the Narwal Freo Z Ultra's dustbin has a disposable plastic thing, which narwal says means its easier reducing the need to clean, but I think this just makes more waste and is unnecessary if you can give the dusbin a good clean. Go for the Roborock saros 10R for a good app and roborock reliability. Go for the Narwal Freo Z Ultra if you really want AI cleaning that's more than just a shoehorned buzzword.
r/RobotVacuums • Stuck on what robot to get (AU) ->A lot of progress has been made from 2017-now. Some are generally a lot smarter (the Narwal Freo Z ultra is the best at this with great mopping and arguably the best smart cleaning mode but vacuuming isn’t that great but probably better than an iLife or a shark). Some are smarter and quieter (dreame X50 ultra) and can also reach into corners well. The smart ones are good at avoiding cords, pet poop, and knowing which areas should be cleaned more intensely. Combo Robots with an antitangle brush are now rather mainstream and much cheaper. The new progress being made is improving the mopping on combo robots, making it even quieter, and improving the robot’s ability to clean itself and the base station.
r/RobotVacuums • Maybe a stupid question? How much have vacuums gotten better over the years? ->Vacuuming: dreame (bristle brush) and Roborock Great obstacle avoidance: Eufy s1 pro (you can consider this one too even though it uses a roller mop as it also mops well), dreame models from X30 Ultra (MOVA P10 Pro Ultra as it is a subbrand), and Narwal Freo Z Ultra These are the only ones I know that are very cord free with obstacle avoidance. Roborock is behind in obstacle avoidance. Remop and clean mop pads again if needed: same dreame/mova models as before and the Narwal Freo Z ultra For uneven tiles, I recommend you wait for the upcoming dreame X50 Ultra as their mop holders can tilt by 5° for uneven flooring. You can further enhance the mopping by using plusher mop pads like Narwal or Roborock’s. I also recommend waiting for CES 2025 to finish as new models by these brands will be announced there! Dreame will also have a new robot with a roller mop that will be even better than their subbrand MOVA’s Z5 which is currently the best mopping robot on the market which uses a crawling mop.
r/RobotVacuums • Need help selecting next robot vacuum ->If you want the best smart mopping mode and better obstacle avoidance, the Narwal Freo Z ultra wins by far. Roborock’s app is easier to use. Both robots are rather easy to clean with both having completely removable washboards.
r/RobotVacuums • Best overall robot vacuum-Narwal Freon Z Ultra or Roborock Qrevo Curv? ->The MOVA will be better at vacuuming and the Narwal will have the best smart cleaning mode and mopping but vacuuming isn’t as good as the MOVA and tanks need to be refilled more often.
r/RobotVacuums • Looking for advice: Best robot vacuum/mop combo under ~800 USD ->What's your budget in your local currency? In the eurozone (not sure for Eastern Europe), the Narwal Freo Z Ultra is at 599 euros (may be cheaper or more expensive). Other than having to constantly refill and empty the water tanks (which is why I recommend connecting this model to the water line), it's rather autonomous, with many pet owners loving the anti-tangle brush and pretty easy to clean. For autonomy, I prioritize: no fur tangling (if hair and fur are a concern), easy to clean and is good at cleaning itself (including the mop washboard), and doesn't get stuck on things because of good obstacle avoidance
r/RobotVacuums • Need help choosing a robot vacuum (no carpets, cat owner) ->>First, I really liked the [Freo Z](https://lifehacker.com/tech/narwal-freo-z-ultra-is-a-great-mop-but-a-water-hog) when I reviewed it… my main complaint, and it was a real dealbreaker, was that the Freo needed to be refilled ALL THE TIME. like, after every mop run. That’s refilling the clean water and dumping the dirty water. Hard pass. But… Narwal sells a kit so you can pipe the robot into your water line. Oh, and that kit is $200, so technically this is just over $1000, but still worth it, IMO, since it’s $500 off. \- Amanda's thoughts on the Freo Z Ultra, the closest model to the Z10. You'd have to constantly refill it unlike the Dreame which is more water efficient.
r/RobotVacuums • Every Prime Day Robovac and Recommendations ->I just lost the draft of the comment I was writing on here TvT The brands best at obstacle avoidance are dreame eufy and Narwal. Recommendations come from cheapest to highest Narwal Freo Z ultra at €549 Best for smoothest obstacle avoidance, great at preventing hair and fur tangles, best smart cleaning mode, easy to clean, and great mopping Not so Great at: vacuuming (compared to other robots), water tanks need to be refilled frequently so it is better suited for smaller homes Why so cheap? It already has a successor and the new flagship the Narwal Flow is going to be released. No eufy models that are close to obstacle avoidance at this price range so no eufy recommendation. Dreame L40 Ultra AE €671 Good at: obstacle avoidance (firmware updates help) but not as smooth since it only has one eye instead of two like Narwal do it needs to go backwards to gauge the distance to something, more rounded vacuuming (better than the Narwal) and mopping performance. Not so good at: not many like the smart cleaning mode, not as easy to clean as you’d need to get down to maintain it. Slightly pared down L40 Ultra
r/RobotVacuums • Looking for Opinions on these robot vacuums ->Vomit can be difficult for robots to properly avoid. I recommend dual brushes for fur as they'll generally lift fur out of carpets better. I'd also look at robots with anti-tangle brushes. The cheapest available option will be dreame and Xiaomi robots that can use the anti-tangle tricut brush. I wouldn't recommend Xiaomi for your case, as it only has structured light, so it cannot detect the obstacles you need it to avoid. I'm using the IT and ES websites for reference. Robots with good obstacle avoidance should be the camera-enabled models from these brands: Dreame/MOVA, Eufy, and Narwal. Narwal's Freo Z Ultra is the cheapest at 699 EUR. It also has the best obstacle avoidance and arguably the best smart cleaning mode. It is rather water-hungry when mopping and isn't the best vacuum, but it should be able to get rid of fur, so your mother may only worry about deeper cleans. This one's mop washboard is the easiest to clean as the entire base is completely removable. There's also the MOVA P50 Pro Ultra at 799 EUR, which is a better vacuum and is less water hungry. I did see those in North America report a broken front wheel, but I haven't seen anyone from Europe report this, so I think it'll be okay. I also like how MOVA has a 3-year warranty compared to Narwal's 2-year warranty. This one's mop washboard is not as easy to clean as you'd need to get down or lie on your side to clean under the drainage filter (the washboard itself is actually very good at keeping itself clean). There's also the Dreame X40 Ultra at 799 EUR. The P50 Pro Ultra is a souped-up version of the X40 Ultra. This one's mop washboard is rather annoying to clean with the wipers catching on fur and so many nooks and crannies.
r/RobotVacuums • Help me purchase a robot vacuum cleaner for my mum (hardwood floor, pets, lots of carpets) ->Narwal freo z ultra would be my cost-efficient but not water-efficient pick if you can connect it to water lines. Just run it to vacuum first then mop everyday and you'll be surprise.
r/RobotVacuums • Best robot vacuum mop? no budget ->The Freo Z ultra has the best spinning mops and the best smart cleaning mode. It’s rather water hungry though.
r/RobotVacuums • Eufy E28 or NARWAL Freo Z Ultra ->Hmmm you are tempting me..I have a freo z but I do notice that if i use a white dish towel to go over places sometimes it's not as clean as I think it should be but it's running mops over and dragging dirt and I don't love that
r/RobotVacuums • Best vacuum and mop? ->I find a lot of good information on YouTube and also I've had robots since they came out in the beginning cuz I was into rescuing dogs! I had three different robotic Vacuums at the same time two of them were mop combos dreamy x40 and the narwal freo z.. I liked both really well but I thought that the Narwhal was a bit better at mopping and the dreamy was better at vacuuming and also had a better battery life but since I had a robot that also vacuumed I stuck with the Z. I get a lot of information from people that have them and I also get a lot of help because people try a bunch that I haven't tried and I get to find out real world experience with them. Just like I got an e25 you fee and I'm telling people how I really think about it. I really think that they are coming a long way fast! The other difficult thing is that everybody's got a different type of house or apartment and so what works really well in one house may not work well in another.
r/RobotVacuums • This Subreddit doesn’t help in finding your best fit. ->Some of us really like narwal.. I took it over the dreamy x40 Ultra cuz I had both of them at the same time and the quality seems to be better on my Z has more features it's going to be a tough decision between the flow and the dreame version of the roller mop
r/RobotVacuums • This Subreddit doesn’t help in finding your best fit. ->I got an e25 eufy and unfortunately it's just OK definitely doesn't use as much water as my Z Ultra but it also doesn't kick out the roller mop to get close to the cabinets it also seems to like to do vacuum and mop the most there were some spots on my lvp that it just didn't get up at all after two times of mopping over them and same thing with some coffee spill in the kitchen mopped twice and didn't get it
r/RobotVacuums • Best High-End Robot? ->Isn't it a mova z50 that is the roller mop?? 🤔 i want to try that or narwal flow... i have narwal freo z ultra now and it is good but uses a Lotta water.. and doesn't get close enough to the kick boards in the kitchen.. none of them so far even e25 and e28.. 28 is cool that it has a hand vac for accidents
r/RobotVacuums • Best robot vacuum and mop ->I've had a freo z ultra and it's been great since I got it in November last year ?! Pretty easy to maintain and if you get it from costco they give you a bunch of stuff.. my only complaint is the app is a bit wonky..but like the meticulous setting cuz it's predictable pattern ..definitely not perfect but have been happy with it!! Also the flow is on preorder right now for what I paid for the z with 3 yr warranty and extra stuff also
r/RobotVacuums • For the love of God, is there objectively a good robovac choice? ->Remember roller mops require more maintenance and don't do as well to get under cabinets if they don't swing out and from what I'm understanding they don't get under as well because of the plastic casing.. did have e25 eufy but sent back (Amazon doesn't give you your money back right away) .. just FYI.. I've been chatting with somebody that works on these robots and says the pads are going to be the lower maintenance of the two.. and I am not unhappy with my current model freo z ultra.. not real thrilled with the vacuuming of it I preferred dreamies a little bit more and eufy e25 was better at vacuuming.. and if you have lvp which I do which is expensive you need it to have less water on the floor and it can't be real hot or you can ruin your floors and I paid a lot of money for my floors!
r/RobotVacuums • Vacuum wars recs good? Looking for best low maintenance combo bot I can get ->I still have I8+ roomba and still use it to vacuum as most robots these days are kinda slow because of having to think so hard lol.. most won't clean to the edges sufficiently dreame x40 did cuz of arm but didn't like spin brushes leaving a gap when mopping...narwal z had for 8 mos no real problems but again vacuuming seems better with 2 rollers like roomba's..but does decently enough when mopping and vacuuming..all of them get stuck sometimes 🤔 but freo z does have great obstacle avoidance but uses a bunch of water.. e25 liked but mop didn't extend and vacuum was meh.. have 3i s10 now but it does get stuck in a few places ..doesn't like some carpets but does have water recycling and drawing it from the humidity in air..super cool! also have checked water quality and it is great! for mopping..doesn't leave weird mottleing on my white tile.. but have been hearing people having to return them cuz things go wrong with them?. I also use this one in mop and vacuum mode after roomba goes 1st cuz that seems to help it go closer to cabinets.. I clearly have an issue cuz I want to keep them all! They need better battery life, and faster processing to finish jobs..seems more innovation more problems so depends on your particular house but don't give up the roomba just yet lol I've had mine since it came out!! And it keeps going even with same battery it came with but I take care of it / them maintenance wise..
r/RobotVacuums • Need Real Feedback Before I Drop $$$ – Roborock, Dreame, Ecovacs, Eufy… (or Others) - Help Me Decide ->I still have I8+ roomba and still use it to vacuum as most robots these days are kinda slow because of having to think so hard lol.. most won't clean to the edges sufficiently dreame x40 did cuz of arm but didn't like spin brushes leaving a gap when mopping...narwal z had for 8 mos no real problems but again vacuuming seems better with 2 rollers like roomba's..but does decently enough when mopping and vacuuming..all of them get stuck sometimes 🤔 but freo z does have great obstacle avoidance but uses a bunch of water.. e25 liked but mop didn't extend and vacuum was meh.. have 3i s10 now but it does get stuck in a few places ..doesn't like some carpets but does have water recycling and drawing it from the humidity in air..super cool! also have checked water quality and it is great! for mopping..doesn't leave weird mottleing on my white tile.. but have been hearing people having to return them cuz things go wrong with them?. I also use this one in mop and vacuum mode after roomba goes 1st cuz that seems to help it go closer to cabinets.. I clearly have an issue cuz I want to keep them all! They need better battery life, and faster processing to finish jobs..seems more innovation more problems so depends on your particular house but don't give up the roomba just yet lol I've had mine since it came out!! And it keeps going even with same battery it came with but I take care of it / them maintenance wise..
r/RobotVacuums • Need Real Feedback Before I Drop $$$ – Roborock, Dreame, Ecovacs, Eufy… (or Others) - Help Me Decide ->I’ve been in a similar situation with hardwood floors and multiple pets. The Narwal Freo Z Ultra is definitely worth considering for your needs. It handles pet hair really well and navigates around furniture and cables without getting stuck. The LIDAR mapping ensures efficient cleaning, and its self-emptying feature means less maintenance. Plus, it mops just as effectively as it vacuums, keeping your floors clean without the hassle of changing water buckets. It’s a great option to reduce manual cleaning efforts!
r/RobotVacuums • Need a recommendation for the wet vacuum robot for my use case ->I ended up with a Narwal Freo Ultra Z after much deliberation.
r/RobotVacuums • Best Robot Vacuum with detergent mopping? ->Robot vacuums aren’t buy it for life. You will probably need a multi pronged approach to cleaning. Robot vacuum (I like the Narwal Freo Z) and a canister vacuum (Miele C3 brilliant or cat and dog, or Sebo airbelt e3). Try to get the canister vacuum from a local dealer to get the additional warranty and ease of service. Usually sebo is easier to service than Miele.
r/BuyItForLife • Pet owners, what's the best robot vacuum for TONS OF PET HAIR that's worked really well? ->I just got a Narwal Freo Z last week at Best Buy for $1099. I like it so far. My floors look clean. We don't expect perfection, just get us by until the monthly deeper cleaning with a full vacuum and mop. The current Narwal iOS app has a battery drain bug I told Narwal about. They responded within 12 hours and escalated to their engineering people. Otherwise the app experience is decent, if a little wonky at times until you figure out the idiosyncrasies and options. I've had no issues with the robot at all. My firewall said the robot sent 2.5 GB to Narwal after a cleaning on Sunday. That bothers me, but I don't know that any of the Chinese manufacturers are strong for privacy. For the price I can't justify the slightly better performance, onboard water tank, and mop pad dropping from the Dreame X50 or Saros 10r. This video has a great breakdown of the three and Ecovacs T50 Pro. The video is really thorough. I recommend slowing down the playback speed, lol [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SI5wVdZeV4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SI5wVdZeV4)
r/RobotVacuums • Should I buy Chinese? ->I had a freo z ultra for a couple weeks and took it back for a saros 10r. Mopping on the Narwal was pretty good, vacuuming just ok. The iOS app has a pretty bad battery drain bug right now too. Also I didn’t like how much data the Narwal sent to servers. In the 2 weeks I had it, my firewall logs showed the Narwal sent over 20 GB of data. I had the remote video disabled so assume it was for vision AI analysis. Still, it shouldn’t need to send that much data. We’ll see if the Flow processes more locally. The Saros 10r by comparison has sent maybe 100 MB in a week. I’m guessing Roborock is doing more AI analysis on the robot.
r/RobotVacuums • Is there a robovac that excels both in vacuuming and mopping? ->I had a freo z ultra for a couple weeks and took it back for a saros 10r. Mopping on the Narwal was pretty good, vacuuming just ok. The iOS app has a pretty bad battery drain bug right now too. Also I didn’t like how much data the Narwal sent to servers. In the 2 weeks I had it, my firewall logs showed the Narwal sent over 20 GB of data. I had the remote video disabled so assume it was for vision AI analysis. Still, it shouldn’t need to send that much data. We’ll see if the Flow processes more locally. The Saros 10r by comparison has sent maybe 100 MB in a week. I’m guessing Roborock is doing more AI analysis on the robot.
r/RobotVacuums • Is there a robovac that excels both in vacuuming and mopping? ->The narwal freo z ultra and freo x ultra both have anti tangle brushes. In my 1+ months of using both of them, no hairs has ever got stuck in the brush or the axle. My wife has super long hair which always annoys me - gets stuck on the regular vacuums brush and the roborock s7 (axles, not on the rollers). But with the narwal, I never had to clean them once. Narwal does a pretty good job of vacuuming and mopping but the app isn't mature and the same goes for the robots themselves. They have some quirks - the mapping/ map updating kinda sucks sometimes and both the robots I had to re-map the house at least 2-3 times. Also, splitting rooms or modifications to the map also has some quirks that annoy me so much. I also had some concerns on privacy so I returned the freo z, still have the freo x, will use it for a bit and decide. The only thing holding me from returning the narwals was/is the anti tangle brush.
r/RobotVacuums • Is there a robot vacuum that doesn't make cleaning out long hair from the brushes/bristles a pain? ->Narwal Freo Z Ultra has the best obstacle avoidance of any robot on the market. Self cleaning everything, and it will adjust the temperature of the water according to the dirt composition on the pads. My only complaint with it is that you have to change the water often if you do a lot of mopping. I assume their automatic water exchange system will eliminate that issue for me once it get it.
r/BuyItForLife • Best self cleaning robot vacuum? ->We talk about big brands only, but tbh Narwal Freo Z Ultra is very good! I have used the Freo X ultra before but the Z ultra is a very good improvement
r/RobotVacuums • Best Robot Vacuum Mop Combo: Eufy Omni S1 Pro vs Dreame X40 Ultra vs Roborock Qrevo Curv vs Other? ->Narwal Freo Z Ultra from Costco (great return policy on robot vaccums)... have been using the X Ultra and now Z ultra for 5-6 months. No hair tangles....
r/Vaughan • Recommendations for a Robot Vacuum ->I have the Narwal Freo Z Ultra and absolutely love it! It is expensive but with my 3000 square-foot LVP flooring house it’s sooo worth it! Sweeping/Vacuuming and mopping took forever! My LVP flooring has ridges and was such a pain to get clean. The Narwal does a fantastic job vacuuming and mopping. I contacted customer service once in the year and and half I’ve owned it they were fantastic, come to find out it was my own fault. I wasn’t cleaning the inner tray occasionally “where the vacuum is housed” easy fix cleaned it.😂
r/RobotVacuums • Recommendations for vac/mop for LVP flooring? ->Love my NARWAL Freo Z Ultra. I have a large house, numerous large area rugs, it doesn’t have a problem with any floor type. I love the way it mops, and the shape of the mop pads gets very close to the edges. Watch a few YouTube videos on the brands you’re thinking of, also read lots of reviews, it sure helped me decide what was the best fit for me and my floors. I had to contact customer support and they were great, it was about a error code message I didn’t understand. It was a little water in the tray (normal) but I didn’t know it! You have to clean it every once in a while.
r/RobotVacuums • Robot vacuum that mops well? ->This. Dreame L40 Ultra or Narwal Freo Z Ultra (specfically from Costco, USA) I went for Eufy S1 Pro based on my requirements (hardwood floors, no kids, no pets, condo living with closed windows). My floors are usually clean (no-one dragging dirt into the unit) and clutter free. I also have an ancient Roomba that does an adequate job. I wanted a good mop essentially (since I procrastinate mopping a lot). But Dreame L40 ultra was a close competitor. I would have bought it were it not for: \- Its mopping is secondary to Eufy S1 Pro. \- Its product support is atrocious. Mine is admittedly a narrow use-case and will stay so for the foreseeable future. But outside that, either Dreame L40 Ultra is a top dog for both vacuuming and mopping.
r/RobotVacuums • Which robot vacuum is a workhorse? ->I have a Narwal Freo Z Ultra, and half my house is at a 45° angle to the test, with one room shaped like an odd of pentagon and another room with a curved wall. No problems mapping or navigating (even though the cleaning pattern keeps parallel/perpendicular to the base even in the skewed rooms, but it’s not really an issue). Dm me if you want so I can share some screenshots of the map and cleaning patterns.
r/RobotVacuums • Sick of roomba. Suggestions? ->I’m finding the Narwal Freo Z Ultra (which now can be had for a lot less than 900€) excellent at navigation, and excellent at hard floors. It’s acceptable on carpets. It uses its own detergent cartridge but it easily lasts 4-6 months and can be refilled with a syringe if you don’t want to buy a new one.
r/RobotVacuums • House with cat and young kids, lots of obstacles on the floor– which robot vacuum to choose? [900€] ->Dense fur (or multiple large pet) or light and fluffy? Example: husky/ corgi vs pomeranian/Bichon Frisé Dense fur: vacuum only : Narwal X Plus (it is a combo unit but the vacuum is the best part) Mop needed: Narwal X Ultra Light and fluffy: Narwal Z Ultra Both have a roller brush that does not clog. Over a year later and no hair tangles. Both have compression in the dust bin/ bag. The X has a large bin that can be emptied multiple times per day (can fill up quick during shed season). Also optional bag for easy replacement. The Z has auto empty and the light and fluffy fur takes a few weeks to fill, dense fur doesn't compress as well so frequent replacement needed. My experience with 4 pomeranians.
r/RobotVacuums • Best Robot Vacuum for Pet Hair Now ->Le Narwal me semble le compromis idéal , les tests sont unanimes, je partais pour un Qrevo Curv mais je vais finalement prendre le Freo Z bien meilleur en détection d’obstacles . Pour moi la priorité c’est puissance d’aspi et brosse anti tangle et les 2 sont excellents J’attends le black Friday avec impatience en espérant que Narwal fera de bonnes offres 🤞
r/RobotVacuums • Robot Vacuum for Black Friday—Is Narwal Freo Z Ultra Recommended? ->I have the narwal freo z. I've only had it about a month I think but I've noticed a good difference for me. I would say that almost any robot you're still going to have to get the corners now and then, and whether that's once a week or once a month for sweeping or mopping probably depends on your house. I have a couple of cats, they don't usually make huge messes but they do get litter everywhere in the kitchen near where their litter box is. One of the huge pluses for me is that I have scheduled it to tidy that up just that one zone, and around the food dishes, once a night. And I have it hit the litter area again in the morning before I get up. I schedule a daily full house vacuum, and then a full house vacuum and mop on one day of the week. One of the other big bonuses I noticed besides the cat litter is that my floor is just not normally sticky in the kitchen. This is awesome because I have a kid and teenagers like to drip things absent-mindedly or maybe conscious-mindedly.... But the point is they don't often pick up their own spills. 😂 So it helps there. I'm REALLY intrigued by this one https://amzn.to/4fVD5jF but people have warned about the quality of the company. It just came out but it's incredibly expensive. It actually extends to the wall for the mopping and has a bunch of other really cool features I'm considering.... I just don't know if the object avoidance is good as the one I have. Overall, I like the vacuum I have but there are a lot of areas that they can improve on over the next few years.
r/RobotVacuums • Can robot vacuum truly deep clean your home? ->Really enjoyed it for a little over a month. One of the main wheels decided to stop turning and there was nothing stuck in it. Customer service was helpful enough and I'm waiting on a repair... But other than that it seems like it was working really well. I run it at least once a day and then another time around the litter box area so I don't step on litter in my kitchen. Seems like it was doing a good job and I was doing a mopping at least once a week. Refilling the water is a little annoying, it does use a good bit depending on the setting. Uh.... They have the extra attachment for like 300 bucks if you want to hook it up to your line where the washer normally goes or wherever else you might have water output and waste so that you don't have to refill it... I was going to buy one right now I would probably buy that one model from that random Chinese company that pulls water out of the air so it doesn't have to be refilled. It looks pretty neat but I know it's a less well-known company.
r/RobotVacuums • Robovac that avoids Poop? ->They got me a repair and sent it back and seems to be working well
r/RobotVacuums • Robovac that avoids Poop? ->Was in the same situation with an aging s9+ and same reservations about Chinese companies. Ended up buying a narwal freo z that hasn't arrived yet. From my research the latest Roomba is still not great. Maybe for my next vacuum it will be a roomba but for now it seems the Chinese companies have the best units.
r/RobotVacuums • Should I buy Chinese? ->I just bought it Saturday. The new one won't be out till probably summer. They release these things twice a year it seems
r/RobotVacuums • Should I buy Chinese? ->Update: got it today and it's awesome so far. Huge upgrade from the s9+
r/RobotVacuums • Should I buy Chinese? ->Depends if it's thin pile or high pile rugs. We only have area rugs that are pretty thin to mid pile and coming from an s9 to the narwal freo z ultra, we haven't noticed any difference.
r/RobotVacuums • Best High-End Robot? ->You don't necessarily need a roomba. The newest ones have actually just caught up with roborock, narwal, dreame etc but I'd recommend buying a model you can find at Costco. Their return policy is priceless imo for a robot vacuum in particular. I've had various roomba's and other robot vacuums for 15 or so years now. We now have a narwal freo z ultra and it's amazing. Mopping is a game changer.
r/germanshepherds • We are finally caving in… which roomba do you use? 😂😩 ->I got the same, I went with their Amazon store though since I have the Amazon card for cash back. I'm 90% tile floors so the mopping is really what I'm looking forward to
r/RobotVacuums • What robot vacuum is everybody looking to buy Black Friday? ->that is a good deal, probably should have checked out Costco lol
r/RobotVacuums • What robot vacuum is everybody looking to buy Black Friday? ->Bought the Narwal Freo Z Ultra from Costco. Even with the sale price its still a lot to drop. We'll see if it's worth it. Might go with a Roborock if i feel like it's not worth the tag.
r/RobotVacuums • What robot vacuum is everybody looking to buy Black Friday? ->Im also about 90% tile/hardwood floors. I thought about the 5-6% cash back from Amazon card but the accessories package that comes with the Costco version make up for that. Plus the return policy will back me if it fails. Link to screenshot of accessories: [Costco](https://imgur.com/a/qHrgAsJ)
r/RobotVacuums • What robot vacuum is everybody looking to buy Black Friday? ->$1099 before taxes Comes with replacement parts [https://imgur.com/a/qHrgAsJ](https://imgur.com/a/qHrgAsJ)
r/RobotVacuums • What robot vacuum is everybody looking to buy Black Friday? ->Awesome. Good luck with it. Please share your experience if you have the time. I likely will put a review out in a month or two and another in a year for an update.
r/RobotVacuums • What robot vacuum is everybody looking to buy Black Friday? ->There’s still time! Costco deal ends 12/1 I think. Or until it sells out
r/RobotVacuums • What robot vacuum is everybody looking to buy Black Friday? ->For mopping I would say Narwal Freo Z Ultra. Or wait for Narwal Flow with different way or work
r/RobotVacuums • Best Robot Vacuum where mopping is the priority ->I started with a cheap $200 Roomba. It would run into everything to orient itself. Upgraded to a $400 lefant N3 and it was much better. Better obstacle avoidance, suction, battery, navigation, and wouldn't run in to stuff to orient itself. The mop was meh and it would tangle on short hair often so I upgraded again to $600 mova p10 pro ultra and wow it's amazing. Like a 9/10 in my books. Navigation could be slightly better, and mopping is good but could be even better but very satisfied overall. I can't live without robo vacs anymore and recommend everyone try a good one out. I'd say the best would be one of like dreame x50 ultra or robo rock 10R or narwal freo z ultra but those are like $1400
r/RobotVacuums • What's the best robot vacuum? ->I just got a Narwal Freo Z Ultra. It’s on sale at $800 currently. I’ve been blown away. There are lots of reviews from all our favorite home assistant YouTubers. This thing has so many features. The obstacle avoidance is better than I ever could have imagined. And my floors are so clean. However, it doesn’t really integrate with home assistant. Their newer models claim they’re getting matter support, but no news on the Freo line. I’m guessing they won’t get matter. I can control it roundabout by sending commands through Alexa. The camera features are all opt-in, not opt out, so that’s good. But it does need internet. And I made sure to segregate it on my iot+internet vlan. Not ideal, but I’m okay with it for the value of the robot in total. My sense was most of the robot vacuums needed some sort of cloud (unless you’re going to flash your own firmware or something).
r/homeassistant • What's the best recommended Robot Vacuum on the market that you really swear by? ->So the Narwal Freo Z Ultra still has one of the highest object avoidance scores on Vaccum Wars, which IMO should be the first consideration. I wouldn't want a great mopping vacuum that basically eats everything in its path. The mopping score is not that high, but I think it's because it's slow and has to dock every time to get more water. That being said, the mop itself is supposedly really good because it has a lot of downward pressure. So if you don't care about the speed/efficiency, the Narwal Freo Z Ultra is a good robot at only $850 from Costco.
r/RobotVacuums • Best mopping Robot? ->if you have a costco membership get one there. you get peace of mind with its lifetime return policy. they have a few roborocks including the high end qx revo ultra which is the same as qrevo edgeT that was on sale for $950. i recently got the narwal freo z ultra which id actually recommend for you with your dogs. it has one of the highest object recognition scores of any robot (good for poop and cables) and high pet hair scores. i got it for $850 which is a good price for that imo object recognition is the most important feature and roborock has mediocre object recognition compared to the competition
r/Roborock • Robo vacuum worth it? ->I can't speak on the Eufy, but Costco sold the Freo Z Ultra for $850. Bought mine a few weeks ago and I love mine. The Freo Z Ultra still has one of the highest obstacle avoidance scores on Vacuum Wars and is still one of the highest rated for Pets. In my opinion, the best robot is one you don't have to babysit, therefore obstacle avoidance is the most important thing. Bonus is when it's sold at Costco so you don't have to worry about returns.
r/RobotVacuums • Eufy E28 or NARWAL Freo Z Ultra ->ah yeah i can see that being an potential issue. i dont have heavily soiled floors so i dont have an answer for you. but i know the freo z ultra will go back and forth to clean up a certain spot until its clean. idk if heavy mud will gunk it up too much. tbh i dont think a roller pad would be good for that either.
r/RobotVacuums • Eufy E28 or NARWAL Freo Z Ultra ->oh if its just paw prints yeah it should be fine. the freo z ultra has really high mopping performance. the mopping rating though is average only because it doesn't have water dispensing built into the robot, so it has to go back to the dock frequently to wet the pads. and i think the AI setting uses too much water imo. both of these are non-problems to me. as long as it cleans it and doesnt run over shit, i'm happy.
r/RobotVacuums • Eufy E28 or NARWAL Freo Z Ultra ->Your idea product doesn’t exist. Set your expectations accordingly. The 10R has one of the more advanced obstacle avoidance technology, but I would still give the edge to the Narwal Z Ultra. Shoestrings, socks and blankets hanging down will likely be a problem. Even if it manages to avoid them once, there’s no guarantee it’ll avoid them the next time. Lighting conditions also matter considerably. Furniture is hit and miss. It tends to get stuck on flat footed furniture like a standing desk would have or anything shiny like a mirror/chrome finish. And you won’t be using your own cleaning solution, unless you’re fine with not having a warranty. Most modern robots are not going to damage your furniture even if they bump it.
r/RobotVacuums • Right choice? ->You really can’t go wrong if you are willing to spend $1000+ and pick a flagship model. My personal experience is Narwal Freo Z Ultra has the best AI avoidance for things like cords or strings. The brush is also tangle free, allegedly. So that would be great for your cats. Get it at Costco so you can return it if it breaks two years from now or you just don’t like it. Currently on sale too for about $400 off. My second choice would Eufy S1 Pro if mopping is the most important to you. Wait for it to go sale at Amazon for $999. Its AI avoidance is very good, but carpet performance suffers. I’d recommend Roborock but I haven’t owned one yet that doesn’t run right over cords. I have the S8 Max V Ultra. No experience with Dreame or Ecovacs/Yedi. Stay away from iRobot.
r/RobotVacuums • Recommendation request: robot vacuums for infant household ->Narwal Freo Z Ultra if you want as close to perfect obstacle avoidance and tangle free as you can get. It’s also good at avoiding cords and quiet. Their replacement accessories are ridiculously priced (look elsewhere). Not great on carpet. Eufy S1 Pro rains supreme as a mopping robot, and has decent avoidance but not as good as the Narwal. Terrible at carpet. Have yet to use a Roborock that doesn’t eat cords.
r/RobotVacuums • Vac+Mop-Poop ->Your S9 will blow the Narwal away on carpet. The Z Ultra is better than the 10R on carpet though.
r/RobotVacuums • Best High-End Robot? ->At $850 today, the Freo Z Ultra is tough to beat for all tile. The only downside is you will be refilling the water tank a lot.
r/RobotVacuums • Best overall robot vacuum-Narwal Freon Z Ultra or Roborock Qrevo Curv? ->I give Matic the Platinum award for industrial design. It's friendly, fun and blends in. Most people wouldn't even know it's a vacuum. The Gold goes to Narwal. They've really cared about this since the beginning and their competitors—Roborock Curv and DJI Romo—have copied them which I also really like. Silver goes to Eufy's S1 Pro. My family calls it the "Tron vacuum" because of its translucent plastics and illuminating ring. Bronze goes to the MOVA P and V line. I like the white version and I actually prefer the glossy because it's easier to wipe clean. I'd give the Dyson 360 Nav an honorable mention just because it looks beefy, like it's ready for business and comes in a cool color.
r/RobotVacuums • Best designed robot vacuums, rank em | and why don't manufacturers care about the design? ->They’re about like everyone else. I’ve been pretty happy with my Freo Z Ultra and S20 mop. Buy from Costco if you are concerned. To be honest, none of the Chinese manufacturers have stellar support. It’s mostly outsourced and they use third-party service providers that are hit and miss. Narwal charges too much for consumables. I purchase mine from Ali Express. You can even get the OEM mop pads, just takes awhile to come in.
r/RobotVacuums • What is everyone's experiences with Narwal? I'm debating getting their newest model but a little hesitant due to the price. How do they last long term? What has your experience been with buying replacement mop pads, sweepers, etc? ->95% of them are sponsored, so take that as you may. But the Narwal Freo Z is great at mopping as it can apply quite a bit of pressure for tile and returns to its base to wet/clean its mop pads often. It doesn’t just spin around dirty mop pads and rewet them. However, It uses a ton of water, even on its lighter settings and has poor edge mopping. Not great, but not the worst on carpet if you turn the settings all the way up. I find their cleaning algorithm annoying, but their AI avoidance is at the top. The Eufy S1 Pro is excellent at mopping (maybe the best!), terrible at carpet and lacks edge cleaning also. It’s a tank though with a nice app. I’m waiting on Roborock to do a roller. I like their app the best, but I just don’t care for rotating mop pads. I’ve been happy with my S8 Max V.
r/RobotVacuums • Are YouTube reviews misleading? ->I have an inside/outside cat. He mostly ignores the Freo Z Ultra, but when they do come close to each other, it pauses just like any other obstacle. Now, I don't trust it 100% not to suck up a hairball or vomit. That's asking for trouble. My cat doesn't have accidents unless sick. Anyone that has a Eufy S1 Pro or variant knows cleaning out the onboard dirty water reservoir is a PITA. Narwal has decided to keep that reservoir internal and use some new tech/methods to keep it clean. There's a paddle in the base station that keeps the dirty water mixed and easier to suck up and the Chinese reviews that have removed the onboard reservoir after a few months of use, seem to be favorable. Personally, I think you are going to see more and more of this concept as no-one wants to clean an onboard water reservoir. You still have to clean the dirty water tank on the base station. I suspect, like the Freo Z, the Flow will use a ton of water to keep the track-style mop clean and require refilling after every 1 or 2 uses. Of my robots, the Narwal maintains the cleanest base station and mop pads. That's their trademark (because using lots of water to wash works!) and I suspect the Flow will continue that trend.
r/RobotVacuums • Narwal Flow Thoughts ->I have an inside/outside cat. He mostly ignores the Freo Z Ultra, but when they do come close to each other, it pauses just like any other obstacle. Now, I don't trust it 100% not to suck up a hairball or vomit. That's asking for trouble. My cat doesn't have accidents unless sick. Anyone that has a Eufy S1 Pro or variant knows cleaning out the onboard dirty water reservoir is a PITA. Narwal has decided to keep that reservoir internal and use some new tech/methods to keep it clean. There's a paddle in the base station that keeps the dirty water mixed and easier to suck up and the Chinese reviews that have removed the onboard reservoir after a few months of use, seem to be favorable. Personally, I think you are going to see more and more of this concept as no-one wants to clean an onboard water reservoir. You still have to clean the dirty water tank on the base station. I suspect, like the Freo Z, the Flow will use a ton of water to keep the track-style mop clean and require refilling after every 1 or 2 uses. Of my robots, the Narwal maintains the cleanest base station and mop pads. That's their trademark (because using lots of water to wash works!) and I suspect the Flow will continue that trend.
r/RobotVacuums • Narwal Flow Thoughts ->You can turn off the hot water washing feature on the Freo Z. So, I expect you'll be able to on the Flow, if you are concerned but it doesn't have an onboard heater. That water may come out warm, but by the time it fills the internal tank up, gets the track mop wet and takes off. It will cool down quickly. It's not like it's a steam mop.
r/RobotVacuums • Flow or Aqua? ->The Roborock Curv, Dreame vacuums with the tri cut brush as the other person mentioned, and Narwarl Freo Z Ultra are probably the ones you want. Curv and Freo Z have brushes that are designed to pick up the hair and then the hair travels along the brush until it falls of the brush and is vacuumed up. The Dreame one cuts the brush, however the brush design results in weaker debris pick up.
r/RobotVacuums • Most durable Robot Vacuum? ->Agreed. I went from a crappy iRobot BraavaJet m6+ to an OG Narwal Freo and it was night and day. Now I have the Freo Z Ultra and the automatic water exchanger unit hooked up to my plumbing... It's insane how good it is. Simply insane.
r/RobotVacuums • Can robot vacuums with mopping functions really clean well? ->Happy Narwal Z Ultra owner here. The obstacle avoidance is everything it's hyped up to be. It still has trouble avoid tiny or flat objects (tiny like... Twist ties that have embedded into carpet or lay almost perfectly flat on hard floor... I hate I HATE twist ties! ... And flat objects, like business cards). Once you get all those out of the way, things like cables, cords, shoes, pet waste, etc are avoided with extreme accuracy. If you can spare the expense, the automatic water exchanger is a godsend!
r/RobotVacuums • What robot vacuum is everybody looking to buy Black Friday/Cyber Monday? ->Can confirm. Narwal Freo Z Ultra owner since day 1 after launch, running daily with an automatic water exchange unit. Aside from changing and washing the pads every 2 weeks and the dock itself, completely hands off. 6 pets (3 cats, 3 dogs), 4 long haired humans, zero tangles from fur or humans. Occasional twist ties gets tangled. Pretty sure a cat finds them in my office and bats them around and then they get run over, but all robots will have this problem.
r/RobotVacuums • Recommendations for a Vacuum/Mop for a Busy Household ->We have 6 fur animals and 3 long-hair people here. My Narwal Z Ultra has been running daily for 11 days now. This morning it ran over some paper business cards and threw a "roller tangled error" because two cards got stuck in the roller. It managed to take itself to the base to dry and decontaminate the mop pads. Why am I recommending this unit? Because when I opened the roller to remove the business cards, it was completely devoid of any tangles. No fur, no hair, no cords. The roller was clean, and just the business cards were stuck in there. I have: Two Roomba i7+ units (also great with hair, but not as good as the Z, since long hair makes its way to the axel on the Roombas, where as the Z sucks it into the chamber) The OG Freo with anti-tangle roller (not as good as the Roombas at vacuuming or tangle-free operation) I also have a shark regular vacuum, and was considering their robovac before I got the Z but the Z is fantastic at both carpet and mopping. If you don't need a mop, the Roomba J7+ or S9 would be good. Not sure about newer ones. The roborocks are also very good. Check out the VacuumWars YouTube channel if you want to make comparisons
r/RobotVacuums • Best robot vacuum for long hair? ->I have the freo Z now. I love everything about it. My second Freo unit, started off with the original Freo, upgraded when it got an auto empty dust bin. Also has two Roomba i7+ units and a braava M6. Love the roomba's too but the Freo Z is hands down just an overall better unit in every way. I also have the automatic water exchange unit for it. Absolute game changer.
r/RobotVacuums • Are robo vacuums worth it? ->Got my Narwal Freo Z Ultra at Black Friday! It works flawlessly, super impressed with the mopping performance.
r/RobotVacuums • I analyzed Reddit for the 20 most recommended robot vacuums in the past year ->I'd recommend the Narwal Freo Z Ultra
r/RobotVacuums • Which model is best at obstacle avoidance and not tangling hair? ->I’m on the same page. Own two Matics. One is still in the box. Very beta and very frustrating not knowing it would be this beta for the initial owners. I’m looking forward to receiving the Narwal Freo Z Ultra back that’s being delivered next week. In retrospect, the Narwal was the best bot I’ve had and immediately regretted returning it upon initial use of the Matic.
r/RobotVacuums • Got the Matic robot vacuum. AMA ->The only object avoidance issue I encountered with the Narwal was with a cat toy that consists of strands of fabric at the end of the stick. The Narwal, as well as Matic, never avoid it and suck it into the brush roller. The main floor of my house is mainly hardwood with several area rugs, both thick wool and low pile. In my experience, the Narwal has better fur pickup given its roller brush design compared to the Matic. I watched the Matic run over some fur that was very lightly pressed into the wool rug several times and never picked it up. I suppose this is a good time for me to elaborate on my frustrations with Matic thus far: 1. Edge cleaning: Matic does not conduct edge cleaning and is a feature they are working on. Of all the robots I’ve used, it cleans the furthest away from walls and edges of furniture. 2. Toe Kick cleaning: Matic does not conduct any toe kick cleaning and according to Matic is a feature they will begin rolling out by the end of the year. I’m curious to see how they handle this given the design of the hardware and small side brush that extends out when the Matic is conducting its final “edge” clean of a room… which is about 6”+ away from the actual edge, at best. In the meantime, all pet fur and dirt are safe hiding beneath the toe kick with no fear of being caught. 2a. Speaking of being caught, there is no dirt detection sensor built-in what so ever. I confirmed this with Matic. All detection is done with vision. Matic will never know if it needs to spend additional time vacuuming an area or not. 3. Poop avoidance: Doesn’t exist. Matic has run over poop several times causing the diaper bag inside to reek of crap. Imagine poop being collected inside of the bag and then mixed with water as the Matic mops the floor. Mmmmmm yummy. Sure does smell nice and fresh! At this point I have to inject that other members of my household are not fans of Matic and do not want it running when we’re not home. I agree with them completely. I have yet to have Matic conduct a full 1,300 square foot clean of the same area Narwal would complete without intervention. What took Narwal 2.5 hours to clean is, at best, taking Matic 4.5 to 5 hours. Much of this is attributed to how Matic has to first vacuum and then mop whereas Narwal can do it all at the same time. Matic currently vacuums rooms in one direction first and then vacuums the entire room running in the opposite direction. This criss cross behavior alone doubles the amount of time to clean the same space whereas Narwal could do it in one pass. According to Matic, this is deliberate in order to ensure complete cleaning. I can understand the intent but I’m currently not a fan given the fact I can’t event complete a cleaning job without issues arising. Watching the figure eight pattern that Matic cleans in when turning around is exhausting to watch knowing how efficient Narwal is. Matic is aware of this and working on enhancing its cleaning pattern. 4. The first evening I ran Matic, it had a difficult time navigating beneath my bed as it was mapping the room. Given its camera-only navigation beneath the bed, it’s easy to understand how it could struggle. I also gained a nice scratch on the top plastic housing of Matic because of it getting stuck and me needing to retrieve it from its confusion. 5. It’s louder than the Narwal Freo Z Ultra. You can definitely work from home with the Narwal working. Matic is louder. 6. Untangling something stuck in the roller is rather easy, however, DO NOT flip Matic upside down with liquid in the diaper bag. The liquid, especially the poop soaked slop that I had in my first bag, will saturate the top of the bag when it’s upside down. Shortly after, Matic told me to replace the bag and it wasn’t even half full. Don’t know if flipping it upside down cause this premature alert or not. I’m not on my second bag. 7. The water tank, according to Matic, should last up to 1,300 square feet. This is perfect as the hardwoods on my main floor total that amount. Unfortunately, I have yet to have a single cleaning job where I could test whether or not the water tank would be enough given the job interruptions with various issues and brush jams with cat toys. 8. I’ve had issues with app connectivity and the Matic which they apparently continue to work on. As I write this, the app cannot connect to the Matic. Oh wait, it finally just did after trying again. Definitely not a consistent experience. 9. Height: Height of the Matic hardware is definitely a disadvantage. I thought I would be able to get over this but with the slew of other issues I’ve encountered in such a short time, I’ve become less apt to over look this design limitation. With five cats, completing a full clean every day to collect the fur around and beneath all furniture with no intervention is a must for me and something Narwal has been able to accomplish. Matic, not so much. 10. Beta testing: My greatest frustration is with being sold an item and not being told of its many limitations that cause it to lag behind the majority of other robot vacuums on the market today. I suppose this is why reviews of Matic online are virtually nonexistent. Reviewing their website, you are made to believe that Matic will do the same job, if not better, than the competition. That was my expectation at least and why I purchased two. I am grateful for how easy it is to converse with the Matic team and their willingness to help and share their future road map but come on, poop detection won’t come to us until the second half of 2025? Yeah, no. I’ll beta test free hardware but otherwise I need a reliable machine that just gets the job done. I love tech and have high hopes in Matic but they really did do their initial customers a disservice with the undercooked version of firmware they shipped Matic with. Soooo much opportunity. Sadly, I’m not sure how much progress I’ll see within my limited 30-day return period. 11. On a positive note, the visual map of my house in the app is fantastic. I have no issues with it so far. 12. Editing room walls, merging rooms, etc. do not exist and are to be released in future updates. My Dining Room was two rooms with no way to resolve this. Fortunately, I was able to trick Matic into adding a new room at the existing Dining Room and it merged the two rooms into the single room it should have originally been mapped as. My Laundry Room is still a part of the Hallway as one large room. My Great Room is split in two, with one half being a part of an adjacent hallway. The Powder Room is not separate and a part of the Foyer. In the meantime, it is what it is. Frustrating. 13. I’ve talked with Matic about current cleaning job enhancements which they are onboard with and currently working on several. It’s possible to edit current cleaning jobs and skip the next room or add a room, however, you cannot have Matic only vacuum one room and then vacuum AND mop another. It’s one option for all rooms. 14. Brush Roller: Fur collects at the ends of the cleaning brush and requires occasional cleaning. That’s it for now. I’m happy to answer any additional questions.
r/RobotVacuums • Got the Matic robot vacuum. AMA ->Compared to my current experience with Matic, I would absolutely recommend the Narwal Freo Z Ultra. Today’s adventures with Matic include the following: 1. The first image in the link shows Matic’s performance cleaning the Dining Room. Green represents where Matic completed a vacuum job. Purple is where it mopped once the vacuum job was complete. Poor edge cleaning and inconsistent ability to mop in the same locations beneath the dining table where it previously vacuumed are seen. All of the brown “sticks” in the image are chair and table legs. Running Matic version Stable\_V0084B, App Version 1.0 (Build 56). 2. The second image in the link shows where Matic moved the table from the far left against the wall to the location seen in the image in the middle of the foyer. In doing so, it nocked the lamp off and onto the floor AND ran over my 82 year old mother’s foot as she was investigating the loud noise when the lamp fell. 3. I finally concluded that I am not going crazy and the water tank does indeed leak when turned upside down in order to refill it with water. Literally, the plastic water container leaks from where two pieces of plastic are molded together it seems. 4. The diaper bag is already 3/4 full and it’s only been a couple of days. I’m waiting to see how many days I can run what I consider to be normal cleaning routines before it needs to be replaced. At the current rate, it’s not a sustainable solution for my cleaning needs and another reason why the Narwal (and all other robot vacuums with self emptying) are better. 5. Speaking of the diaper bag, I’m currently vaccuming and mopping the kitchen hardwoods floors. In doing so, the vacuum exhaust smells like poop. I’ve detected this before when Matic ran over cat poop and I suspect the poop contents in the diaper bag mixed with the waste water from mopping are causing this. Not good. Every cleaning job is seriously a new adventure. I can’t make this crap up! [https://imgur.com/a/CVa1JvQ](https://imgur.com/a/CVa1JvQ)
r/RobotVacuums • Got the Matic robot vacuum. AMA ->I have both Matic and Narwal Freo Z. Narwal is quieter overall.
r/RobotVacuums • Matic Robots, co-founder here - AMA (unsynchronised - will answer within 24-36 hours) ->I just bought Narwal Z ultra. It's pretty impressive especially object avoidance. I am surprised it didn't get any mentioned here. Good vacuuming and mopping performance
r/RobotVacuums • I just want the best robo vac available and the research is killing me ->I’m full compliant with you. I own X40 from its launch and never a problem. Surely I can compare it with other bot. Tested Heat, L40, Narwal Freo X Ultra, Narwal Freo Z Ultra and Roborock slim. X40 it’s the more smart and has the most innovative features. It’s a robot that doesn’t give thoughts. It works and works always. A little more pressure in washing ant it will raise the perfection. But I’m sure that at the CES next week, we’ll have this upgrade 😉
r/RobotVacuums • Dreame x40 is currently the best vacuum out there. ->Agree on the Freo Z Ultra. Mine arrives next week. We have mostly hard flooring (LVP), and dog toys everywhere. We pick up every night for the most part, but I want to trust it not to get stuck up on a cord or half eaten stuffed animal
r/RobotVacuums • Robovac that avoids Poop? ->Roborock QRevo Curv or Narwhal Freo Z Ultra. Both have no tangle brushes and good mopping.
r/RobotVacuums • Best robo vac money can buy for pet hair/mopping floors ->I chose the Curv, Roborock had a better track record, and was generally solid all round performance. The down side is the sub par object avoidance. Narwhal is the better pick, if that's important to you.
r/RobotVacuums • Best robo vac money can buy for pet hair/mopping floors ->With all the dog hair, you want a robot with a brush roller designed to resist hair tangling. Both the Roborock Curv and Narwhal Freo Z Ultra has brushes that'll guide the hair towards the vacuum inlet. Narwhal has better object avoidance, Roborock slightly better vacuuming. With all the dogs, I'd probably go for the Narwhal to avoid any...accidents getting picked up by the robot.
r/RobotVacuums • Best self emptying robot vacuum for large home with 8 dogs? ->Narwhal Freo Z Ultra has better object avoidance, an anti tangle brush like the Curv, and is a bit cheaper during black friday offers. It's worse at vacuuming, but still good.
r/Roborock • Any alternatives for the QRevo Curv, or is it worth the splurge? ->Hope this helps: Under $300/400 look at the Dreame D10 Plus Gen 2, roborock Q10 S5+ Under $600 look at the Mova P10 Pro Ultra, roborock Qrevo Series, Dreame L40 Ultra Under $1000 look at the Mova P50 Pro Ultra, Narwal Freo Z10, Narwal Freo Z Ultra, Dreame X40 Ultra Love Narwal for pet hair so with 2 dogs and 1 cat I think that might be the way to go with your hairy household! If I had to pick the P50 Pro Ultra, either Narwal you would be happy with. The Mova P10, Qrevo Series, L40 Ultra are very respectable as well!
r/RobotVacuums • Purchasing Recommendations ->For this it was strictly price that was all since the Z Ultra is a couple bucks cheaper and good enough imo!
r/RobotVacuums • Purchasing Recommendations ->Flow if you care most about mopping... I like the Z for the value + station features!
r/RobotVacuums • Reddit Made Me Test the Narwal Flow Like THIS… Vacuum Chef ->Yeah I just picked one up and it's super nice. I have two shedding long hair dogs so it was a pain to keep up with. I could vacuum in the morning and it would already be hairy again by that night. Now the robo vac clears all the dog hair twice a day and mops all my hard floors every other day. It helps that they've come a long way in recent years with obstacle avoidance tech. My robot can actively detect cables and all kinds of other stuff and work around it. So it never really gets stuck despite random kids toys, dog toys, cables etc not always getting picked up.
r/Futurology • What’s a piece of tech you bought that completely changed your daily routine and its impact on future? ->I got a Narwal Freo Z Ultra. It's Narwal's flagship robo vac from last year. I got it for around $950. Pleased with it so far. I wanted something that required as little input from me as possible. Outside of refilling the clean water and emptying the dirty after a full mop, there's not much to do. I did a lot of research and it seemed like one of the best options for an anti tangle brush I wouldn't need to cut dog hair out of and really good obstacle avoidance.
r/Futurology • What’s a piece of tech you bought that completely changed your daily routine and its impact on future? ->The Narwal has the roller fixed on only one side and a corkscrew shape so the hair slides off and doesn't get caught like every other cleaner. There's also a solid maintenance plan that the system prompts you through to replace and clean various components so it should last a while.
r/BuyItForLife • Pet owners, what's the best robot vacuum for TONS OF PET HAIR that's worked really well? ->I have a narwal and it's fucking awesome. With the plumbing kit it just sits in the laundry, drives itself out, cleans the house, then returns to the base station to clean its own mop pads, empty the vacuum bin and recharge. Then it does it all again the next day. I do about ten minutes of maintenance a month, that the app tells me to do, like emptying the bin or replacing the pads. It also occasionally tangles itself in stuff like string on the ground, it has a really nice vacuum system to avoid hair getting tangled though. There's also nice configurable extras like cleaning the mop pads after doing the toilet so you don't spread contamination.
r/smarthome • Considering a robovac, is there anyone out there that truly frees you from having to clean the mop yourself? ->Blades are shit. Effective are the rollers that direct the hair towards one side like some dreame or narwal or to the centre like roborock
r/RobotVacuums • How often do you all have to clean hair from the edges of the rubber brushes? ->IMO avoid ecovacs, they have tons of app and navigation issues. There a hundreds of posts on Reddit about it and they have really bad track record of it. On vacuumwars is the number one because they test it for half a day and then it goes to the closet and onto the next vacuum, hence that YouTuber is barely a starting point. E25 has no mop only option which for several people is crucial, the vacuum rollers get the dirt stick to them, they suck humidity and the hepa filter gets clogged easier, etc. Master has no antitangling rollers I would recommend Mova Z50 with mopping roller or V50 with a bit more effective antitangling vacuum roller but has spinning pads. On Roborock QRevo Curv or Edge are sweet spot of value on their lineup, spinning pads and excellent antitangling. For Dreame probably the L40s Pro ultra is a good not so expensive option. For Narwal Z Freo Ultra they have really good spinning pads applying good pressure on the floor and the vacuum roller is excellent anti tangling. The only con for me is the lack of onboard water tank which makes it go back often to the station.
r/RobotVacuums • How do I choose which robovac to buy?! ->I purchased Narwal Freo Z Ultra from Costco and super excited for it to arrive.
r/RobotVacuums • Recommendations for a Vacuum/Mop for a Busy Household ->love my Narwal Freo Z
r/RobotVacuums • I analyzed Reddit for the 20 most recommended robot vacuums in the past year ->To be fair, I think a shelter is gonna nuke pretty much any robovac. Narwal Z is supposedly good at distinguishing between wet and dry but I am not sure how good. Probably also depends on the floor type. Also be careful, if you ever mention shelter to support you can probably say goodbye to any warranty. They tend to have language about 'household use'
r/RobotVacuums • is there really a robot vacuum that truly avoids pet mistakes ->Narwal Freo Z and Roborock Curv are both tempting me. Leaning towards the Narwal.
r/RobotVacuums • What robot vacuum is everybody looking to buy Black Friday/Cyber Monday? ->The obstacle avoidance. My house is quite chaotic in that regard. And they seem top notch at mopping. (also, if I can get it from Costco I can deal with their customer service instead which is a boon)
r/RobotVacuums • What robot vacuum is everybody looking to buy Black Friday/Cyber Monday? ->Yeah, the astroturf is concerning. But from the (few) less biased reviews I've seen so far it seems pretty decent.
r/RobotVacuums • What robot vacuum is everybody looking to buy Black Friday/Cyber Monday? ->I would love the automatic water exchanger but don't really have a location I can hook it up that has access to the existing plumbing. Maybe one day :) Did read about one guy that had his z get stuck on furniture and whatnot so crossing my fingers on that one.
r/RobotVacuums • What robot vacuum is everybody looking to buy Black Friday/Cyber Monday? ->I only have roombas and a Narwal but the Narwal is also extremely quiet at low suction. Pretty irrelevant, but I would wonder how the two would compare.
r/RobotVacuums • Got the Matic robot vacuum. AMA ->I am very interested in the Matic from a tech POV but it seems to early to lock in into one. Both tech wise and company future-wise. They're not available in Canada yet, which makes that reasoning a lot easier. I think the Narwal is doing pretty well. Cat toys are always tricky. Some are so close to dust bunnies that it'll lead to false negatives not picking up dust bunnies.
r/RobotVacuums • Got the Matic robot vacuum. AMA ->I like my Narwal but it has gotten stuck on a pretty common Ikea chair. That really surprised me. Other than that I have been very impressed with its obstacle avoidance. Its edge cleaning also could be a lot better, I hardly ever see it do the twist. Also treshold detection. It tends to ride up to them and not clean the inch next to the treshold because of that. Toe kick cleaning is in my experience non-existent. Maybe mine are too low, I'll have to clean those 2 inches by hand.
r/RobotVacuums • Got the Matic robot vacuum. AMA ->For me obstacle avoidance tops everything, so I am very pleased with my Narwal Z (even though edge coverage and vacuuming are iffy at best). A stuck robot is a useless robot no matter how water efficient it is or how high a treshold it can cross.
r/RobotVacuums • I Was Wrong About Robot Vacuum Mops and What I'm Doing About It ->Narwal is known for its obstacle avoidance though, and based on my experience that is very well deserved.
r/RobotVacuums • So, with more and more roller/belt robot vacuums coming out, how likely are you to stick with the Eufy S1 Pro? ->Yeah, a robot that gets stuck is as useful as no robot imo. It's why I went for the Freo Z. Its obstacle avoidance is one of the best. Or at least was when I bought it, and it definitely has been really good in that regard. I rather have a so-so robot that doesn't get stuck than a top notch cleaner that invariably gets stuck before finishing even half of the job. If Matic goes all-over the place but doesn't get stuck, I'm good. I am also keeping an eye out on them, cuz I do like their more pragmatic approach, rather than all the bells and whistles that put more and more points of failure on the bots.
r/RobotVacuums • Thoughts on Matic? ->Narwal freo Z with accessories is $1099 in Costco US
r/RobotVacuums • Recommendations for a Vacuum/Mop for a Busy Household ->Wow...its a great deal with accessories. I got it 2days back...was monitoring since i saw it for 1299. I got it as soon as i saw it available. Wait for it. They will restock it
r/RobotVacuums • Recommendations for a Vacuum/Mop for a Busy Household ->I wanted to post an alternative of which you may not be aware. Costco is a great place to buy in view of the generous return privileges. I purchased the Narwal Freo Z from them and tested it but ultimately returned it due to poor edge cleaning. Both Dreame and Roborock are excellent choices as they provide good customer service, product updates and software development. An option I came across here on Reddit was a post from a user about a deal on the Dreame X40 Ultra from the Dreame store in LA (I subsequently posted about this deal as well). I never imaged buying the X40 as it was very expensive and initially earned a top spot on Vacuumwars. However, the LA store offered it for $548 including tax, shipping, 3-year warranty, support direct from the store, 1L cleaning solution and tri-cut brush. Needless to say, I jumped at it. It is the best performing robot I have ever tested (and I have tested a number of them). The support from the store has been superlative. In fact, they replaced my initial unit due to a couple of issues and shipped a replacement even before I return the defective unit. You call them, they answer the phone, answer your questions and follow-up. Just food for thought. Good luck to you. Can't make a mistake with any of these choices.
r/RobotVacuums • Costco Robot vacuum? ->The Eufy is genuinely worth considering even if it has more maintenance. Its performance is just so good for mopping compared to the rest. Like FarConcern said, Freo Z is probably a great option here. IMO I'd avoid the Freo X, it does not seem like a great option at all. The curv is good for your needs, but you said the price difference is not worth it. Do you have a budget in mind at all?
r/RobotVacuums • Best robot vacuum when obstacles and carpets are not an issue. ->I'll first point out: make sure what you get is compatible with 240V power. You don't want to fry your new robot when you get home. I'd also echo FarConcern2308's warning about warranty issues. Multi-floor support is likely to be more about the manufacturer than the model. Dreame, Roborock, and Narwal seem to be the safe choices. Eufy can do it as well, but it's a bit more annoying to use from my experience. Shark multi-floor support is basically nonexistent. iRobot is behind in navigation generally. For mopping, there are basically two choices: the Eufy S1 Pro, and everything else. Feature-wise, the S1 Pro is a bit behind the other robots; this includes things like extending mops, AI mess detection, automatic re-mopping, and the like. But the S1 Pro has the best mop on the market, in my opinion. Most of the better mops today use two spinning circular pads on the rear of the robot, but the S1 Pro uses a roller mop along with an onboard mop cleaning system and dirty water tank. This means that the mop surface is constantly being cleaned as the robot is mopping, while the other robots can only add clean water to their pads, and have to go back to the base every so often to clean them. I've got a S1 Pro, and am really happy with its mop performance; like you, I mostly need mine for hard floors. For hair tangles, my beloved S1 Pro is unfortunately middle-of-the-road, particularly on carpets. You'll need to clear the main brush axles of accumulated hair every so often even on hard floors. Dreame seems to have the best system here, with their tricut brush that can be added on to most of their newer robots. Amazingly, a budget vacuum (the Eufy L60 with self-empty station) gets top marks here as well, although the mop performance is more in line with a budget system and not very good. It doesn't sound like object avoidance is as big a deal, but just for completeness: the high-end robots from Eufy, Narwal, and Dreame are going to be best at avoiding stuff on the floor. Anything with LIDAR should be able to steer clear of taller objects, but the Eufy S1 Pro, Dreame X40 Ultra, and Narwal Freo Z have multiple front sensors and advanced software for the smaller stuff. Roborock is a step behind, generally, although there are reports that their most recent releases have improved in this area. I'll also point out that some of the manufacturers have sub-brands that are nearly as good and often cheaper. (Or super-brands; some Roborock and Dreame models are re-sold under the Xiaomi name, though not so much in the USA.) I hope that helps. Do check out the online reviews; a few good places on YouTube are Vacuum Wars, Just A Dad, and Jamie Andrews. There are also a lot of good people here, some of whom might disagree with some of my conclusions; definitely pay attention to those differences of opinion. No one robovac can do it all just yet, so the biggest thing is prioritizing your must-haves and deciding what weaknesses you can live with. Good luck!
r/RobotVacuums • Best robot vaccum and mop ->Of those, only the Narwal Freo Z is a reasonable recommendation. The Roborock is an old model; it's decent, but for the money, you can do a lot better. The Ecovacs has terrible navigation, and the Roomba's mopping is likely to be disappointing.
r/RobotVacuums • Asked AI "best robot vac for my home"... it picked these ->Try Narwal robot, they do great with tangle-free tech. My Freo Z never has this problem.
r/RobotVacuums • How often do you all have to clean hair from the edges of the rubber brushes? ->Try Narwal robot, they do great with tangle-free tech. My Freo Z never has this problem.
r/RobotVacuums • How often do you all have to clean hair from the edges of the rubber brushes? ->I got the Narwal FREO Z recently and I like it. I'm new to robot vacuums but I had the Mova P10 Pro Ultra for about a month before and it had annoying hardware issues, which I think stem from Amazon's crappy handling of packages. The first vacuum I had the mop wouldn't raise up when it should. The second had a very annoying rattle like something was loose inside while vacuuming. I got the FREO Z exclusively because it's available at Costco and their return policy. I got it when it was on sale for $1000 but it seems like it's still out of stock. Mova (Dreame)'s app was must more optimized compared to Narwal, but it's able to do most things. My home is primarily wood floor though, and I have some rugs that it's decent at cleaning.
r/RobotVacuums • Looking for recommendations: Mova P50 Pro Ultra / DREAME X50 Ultra / NARWAL Freo Z Ultra ->Had the Freo z for a couple of months. It was fine but definitely doesn't deserve the hype it initially got.
r/RobotVacuums • What is everyone's experiences with Narwal? I'm debating getting their newest model but a little hesitant due to the price. How do they last long term? What has your experience been with buying replacement mop pads, sweepers, etc? ->i just purchased the narwal freo z from costco about 2 weeks ago. i have 3 kids, 1 dog & 2 cats. majority of my house is tile and they look amazing, i was mopping atleast 2/3 times a week and now i have the narwal going every morning and it does such a great job! you wouldnt even think i have pets! i looove mine so far! not to mention how quiet it is!!!
r/RobotVacuums • Recommendations for a Vacuum/Mop for a Busy Household ->There are two robots that have exceptional obstacle avoidance. The eufy s1 pro and narwal freo z. Both are fine with cables, small toys, poop, cat vomit, socks on the floor ect. Freo z has slightly better avoidance but s1 has much better mopping.
r/RobotVacuums • is there really a robot vacuum that truly avoids pet mistakes ->I had a RoboRock Q Revo Pro that was really quite and a Narwal Z that’s also not very loud.
r/RobotVacuums • Quiet(er) vacuum & mop robot ->You have obviously experienced the wrong bot(s). They get really good, and overcome many of the hassles you've expressed, when you get to the high-end models. They get pricey, but a top-tier Narwal or Roborock will change your tune. Comparing them to a sub-$500 Shark or Roomba is a mistake. Like saying a Ferrari must suck because your Civic can barely do the speed limit. There's still limitations, and a vacuum will always make some noise, but there's a reason that people really like their expensive bots.
r/unpopularopinion • Robot vacuums are expensive and a waste of time. ->I’ve found the narwal tangle free brush solution to be excellent. The newer roborock ones with the split brush looks like it would perform well too
r/RobotVacuums • Best vacuum for Pet/Human hair ->Yes with my daughters long hair and constantly shedding Rottweilers the narwal is the first that hasn’t died or become too much hassle within the first year
r/RobotVacuums • Best vacuum for Pet/Human hair ->Eufy l60 ses , narwal anti tangle and roborock tri cut are the 3 main robots dedicated to that problem.
r/RobotVacuums • Is there a robot vacuum that doesn't make cleaning out long hair from the brushes/bristles a pain? ->I have all hardwood and use two devices. The Roborock is an excellent vacuum and I like their ap the best. I have an older S7 but it still powers through my 3 dog house. And a narwhal which does a 80% good job at mopping. Together my house stays pretty clean ;)
r/RobotVacuums • Looking to buy my first robot vacuum and I am completely overwhelmed ->I have the Freo. It has a vacuum but it's not that strong. I have very annoying high gloss wood floors that show every foot print. The Narwhal mop really seems to clean the floor instead of just running a went mop bad over it like the IRobot.
r/RobotVacuums • Looking to buy my first robot vacuum and I am completely overwhelmed ->We just got the Narwhal Freo that vacuums and mops and can do either independently or at the same time. I only have 2 cats inside and we do not have carpet but we do live on a ranch and I am in and out frequently from the horses and dirt in general so our floors get dirty fast. I am in love with this little robot. I call her Mrs.Doubtfire. When I send her to vacuum I leave the rugs down and have not had a problem. If she's doing a mop run I pick up the rugs. The time saved alone from not sweeping daily is huge for me, totally worth it.
r/CleaningTips • Self emptying robot vacuums for homes with many pets? ->I had a Narwal Freo and was already happy with it. I've been testing the Eufy E25 for weeks now and I have to say, the suction power is really good. If you look at the dust container before vacuuming it into the station, you can see that it even pulls dust mites/feces out of the carpets. Special vacuum cleaners only do that. I've never had this happen with any robot. I'm really impressed. Wiping is also very neat. Unfortunately the navigation doesn't really make me happy, then it would really be perfect.
r/RobotVacuums • Need Real Feedback Before I Drop $$$ – Roborock, Dreame, Ecovacs, Eufy… (or Others) - Help Me Decide ->Narwal freo literally has no go zones, as well as they have strips I believe in their store that prevent it from doing that if you want to do it physically.
r/RobotVacuums • Ideas for pet food area with robot vacuums? ->Agree. Dreamebot with Tricut brush & Narwal Freo series. Both great.
r/RobotVacuums • Vacuums for really REally REALLY long hair ->Narwal Freo, owned for just over 2 years. Daily vacuuming of entire house, 2x weekly vaccum+mop entire house. The only issue I’ve encountered has been technical/map based and not mechanical. Remapping the house resolved the issue.
r/RobotVacuums • robot vacs you've used for YEARS ->I have the Narwal Freo and love it. I got mine refurbished from a reputable seller on EBay. $1000 model for just under $400!
r/Apartmentliving • What are the best robot vacuums you've tried - Do they really keep the apartment clean everyday? ->I am using one, on a frequent basis. These are good if you want to vacuum or want to collect floor dust. The issue is it will not move your furniture items and works well in open areas. Do not depend on it for mopping and it is only for nameshake, although cleaning is quite good. I am using Narwal brand Freo, but Ecovacs and Dream are also quite good with a good service network. Don't go for any other brand.
r/hyderabad • Anyone using Robot vacuum? ->While I do not yet own a Yeedi S14 Plus I do own a Yeedi Cube. It's been with me for a over a year now. The brand itself is essentially a sub-brand of Eco-Vac (think Lexus vs Toyota) with Yeedi being the latter. The performance has been great relative to its pricing, the parts still work well and the mop is using a single pad vibration mechanism. This is not as good as my Deebot T30's dual spinning mop pad system but it's enough to remove most winter time salt stains from my tile flooring as well as most other light to medium intensity dirt marks in a single run. IMO one of the things that makes Yeedi good is that it's durable, it's motor and mopping tech is not as competitive as Narwal or Ecovac (on purpose) but out of all the robo vacs I have owned and used it's the only one I have yet to replace a single part for (dust bin just once). People often buy robo vacs based on feats but the really good ones are the ones that last past the 12 months mark once the wear and tear really kicks in. To play the devils advocate however I will say Yeedi's app is very mediocre compared to most other brands though. In 2025 you still cannot select the number of runs per operations for example. No amount of new hardware will fix a bad app sadly. Btw this isn't some paid/affiliated propaganda lol. I have owned a Narwal Freo, Ecovac Deebot T20 and T30, Euxy X8 and the Yeedi Cube (I am a YouTube reviewer so I work with these brands) and I have owned each one for a prolonged period of time and can give you a practical take on it. My fav robo vac to date when taking budget, tech and durability in mind is my now 3 year old Eufy X8 which is old tech but it wins in longevity hands down. Hope this helps! I may review the S14 Plus next month but that's TBD. I will share my unbiased opionion on this thread if it's still open.
r/VacuumCleaners • Any insights on Yeedi S14 PLUS roller mop robot vacuum? ->I got one from Narval last month for around 20k, happy with the experience as of now
r/Frugal_Ind • Robotic vacuum cleaner recommendations? ->Sure about that? I have a Narwal. It vacuums and mops. You can choose the floor type both for mopping and vacuuming and pick if you want a damp or wet mop. It’s WELL worth the money in my opinion
r/unpopularopinion • Robot vacuums are expensive and a waste of time. ->We have a Narwahl. If you have pets, make sure you look for one that is good with pet hair. We went up a model For that reason.
r/workingmoms • What are the best robot vacuums in your opinion - Are they really worth the money? ->I think a standout feature of the Narwal that differs in real-world performance vs benchmark testing used by vacuum testing channels is that there is no restricted test parameters. So for example the narwal can sense if the area isnt clean yet and go back and clean it. So one pass over a dried stain might not be as good as another robot but if it goes back to finish and leaves a cleaner surface than a single pass during a typical mop session from a different vac, the end result is the narwal will leave the area cleaner. Now I'd perfect the smarts of the narwal paired with the best mopping capability naturally and I think the Narwal Flow will fill that niche but something I realized while doing far too much research on this is that benchmark testing doesnt tell the full story at all. It's like buying a dodge neon with a huge engine vs a porche with a slightly smaller but still big engine. Just a random musing while trying to decompress from too much research into buying a new vac lol
r/RobotVacuums • If money wasn’t an issue, what’s the best robot vacuum right now? ->I noticed it can clean for up to 270 minutes on a single charge. That's longer than my old Narwal, but I'm more excited to see how well its mopping function actually works.
r/VacuumCleaners • Any insights on Yeedi S14 PLUS roller mop robot vacuum? ->It's because I laugh how ecovacs is considered good with pets, but I've seen reviews of actual and real performance, not some lab tests, and they always struggle with hair getting stuck in their brushes. Ecovacs is just not as good as Narwal or the newer Roborock's model in that aspect. And if the test "fails" in that category, how can I believe other aspects of the review? Is it ust a coincidence that Ecovacs triumphes in every category with many of their robots?
r/RobotVacuums • Ecovacs X9 Pro Omni cleans up at VacuumWars awards - best overall, best mop, best dry vacuum ->I really like the Narwal. Sadly... it's not HA compatible yet. Hoping someone fixes that one day.
r/homeassistant • What's the best recommended Robot Vacuum on the market that you really swear by? ->Oh man, deciding on a robot vacuum is like trying to pick the best pizza topping combo—there’s no right answer! Personally, navigating around dog toys and somehow managing my long-haired cat’s shedding is my top struggle. I’ve been through the madness of getting vacuums jammed with hair more often than a concert mosh pit! I tried the Roomba first before giving the Roborock a shot—it’s like night and day for avoiding hair clumps. For mopping, Narwal’s practically the Baymax of vacuums, so no surprise it’s at the top of your list. Yeedi has some solid feedback on its roller mop tech, though I’m still a bit skeptical until I see fewer water skid marks. Also, services like ConsumerRating often have more insights on models like these if you want the nitty-gritty details. Good luck in the spring sale showdown!
r/RobotVacuums • What’s Your Top Priority When Choosing a Robot Vacuum? ->I have 3 cats and two Narwhal robovacs, and they are a godsend for pet fur and tracked litter. Sometimes an upright is still needed for some tasks, but for day to day maintenance, they keep the floors looking great. I have them vac and mop.
r/homeautomation • Can robot vacuum truly deep clean your home? ->What I am focusing most is looking at the reviews for snippets showing how robots clean edges and corners. When the robot boasts its extending mop pad/roller, and I see that because its navigation its cleaning the edges so bad it might as well have not extending mop, I take it as a signal of "we dont care if the feature is implemented properly, we care that we can boast it in marketing materials", and completely drop the brand from my considerations. So far Ecovacs and Yeedi (which have the same owner?) are especially showing bad signs of this, and I say that as someone who blindly bought their top of the line robot in about 2020, and been kinda happy with it since. When brand releases top-of-the-line robot at top-of-the-line price point with something as basic as vibrating mop pad, I cant shake of the "Lets see how many suckers will buy this if paid youtube shillers astroturf it to the moon", so there goes the Saros line, and a Roborock name gets a huge minus. Then theres Dreame, which looks solid at first glance, and after watching hundreds of videos I had to drop it too. They seem to want to be percieved as pioneers, offering retractable lidar, huge threshold crossings, and those features actually work, but the core navigation again shows that my floor would be cleaned very inconsistently, namely around edges. Then theres Narwal, a huge potential that seem to miss the mark every release. I want their Flow to finally fix their issues, but have little hope. And then theres Eufy, which to me remains the only brand limited by their technology and not programming. Missing extending mop means no edge mopping at all, but man when I look at any video how it hugs walls/chair legs, or how it navigates around corners, I am impressed. Apart from carpet cleaning performance and weak corner reach brush, they seem to done everything right, so I am waiting for what they drop next (aka S2). If they include edge extending mop+brush, I think its a clear winner for me. I dont care about carpets, the mopping is undisputed, the programming (navigation) has no match neither. Oh, and then theres Mova, which I am eagerly awaiting their Z50 Pro Ultra (which should have extending mop too), but theres so little info about that brand that I forget about them most of the time.
r/RobotVacuums • What’s Your Top Priority When Choosing a Robot Vacuum? ->I don't have other comparisons, but myself (long hair) and my cat have had a Narwal for over a year and I've never once had the roller clog with hair. It's got a tapered roller and apparently this is successful in keeping hair from getting tangled.
r/RobotVacuums • Recommendation for hardwood floor and long hair ->I hope you have a great experience with Eufy, I bought S1Pro. It was cleaning beautifully, a big upgrade from my Narwal, then 8 months in I had a fan error. From that point on and about 12 emails, customer service said the same thing in each email, I had already done the troubleshooting before. Couldn’t talk to CS, finally called Amazon and they helped me get a refund…but Eufy has 30 days to issue and then Amazon takes about 2 weeks. Needless to say, I am extremely careful about my next purchase.
r/RobotVacuums • 2 days in, Eufy E28 ->My GSD hates my Narwal. He especially hates when he sees the underside. I think he may think it’s a big monster. The spinning mop pads are the eyes and the flat roller brush is its mouth. Your cat, were it to get in a beef with a neighboring cat, would certainly have some impressive / intimidating muscle he could bring along.
r/germanshepherds • Robot vacuum? Best ones? ->Personally I'd get the Narwal or Eufy. Both are very good all around, but are two of the best mopping robots as well. The Q Revo Curv would be my pick if that price wasn't so astronomically inflated. It's only $1300 right now here in the US.
r/RobotVacuums • Recommendations for a Vacuum/Mop for a Busy Household ->I just replaced my J7 and Narwal last week (2 of them). I had the M6 prior and it's simply awful. I got the Eufy e28. It's terrific. I know that you had issues years ago, but they came a long way. I've cleaned my entire house 4 or 5 times, and it barely used any water. I think that it should last weeks before refilling.
r/RobotVacuums • Best vacuum+mop for me? ->Narwal. Not the top of the line, but the next one down. It’s been really great. It adapts to changes without any issue. We really like it. I don’t know about home assist compatibility.
r/homeassistant • What's your TOP PICK for the best Robot Vacuum Mop today? ->My dogs freaked out at first with my Narwal, but we gave them high value treats every time we started a cycle and pretty soon they ignored it. The Narwal sensors have "pet detection" so it will stop when it sees my dog in its path. Since you have cats you could take them into a room with the robot and have Churu on hand. Just let them come up and sniff it, Churu, more sniffing, Churu etc.
r/RobotVacuums • Can we talk robot vacuums that don’t freak out pets? ->I bought one of the new ones and returned it for a Narwal. Much happier but Narwal needs to fire their UI people and redesign their app from the ground up.
r/gadgets • iRobot’s future isn’t looking up ->I went with a Roomba (just the vacuum) as I liked my older model and I'm not a fan of this one so I'm trying Narwal next. Generally the Roomba is fine but the obstacle avoidance is lacking to the point where it climbs over the ground level support bars of my chairs, and therefor doesn't really clean under the kitchen table, where it often needs it most. Supposedly smart obstacle avoidance was a part of its selling features. Otherwise it's maybe a bit noisy, has a very small filter, and doesn't seem to have a lot of suction. The map seemed to work which surprised me with my past experience with them.
r/RobotVacuums • Robot Vac Recommendations Please! ->I have a narwal from costco and it works on my white oak hardwoods, tile, and carpet.
r/RobotVacuums • Hardwood Floors ->Narwal is quiet and excellent with mopping
r/RobotVacuums • Best robot vacuum with these characteristics ->Narwal is very good with mopping and app floorplan looks better and clean while other apps walls looks rough and raffled.
r/RobotVacuums • Best affordable mopping robot ->I have a Narwal and am pretty happy with it. That said you have no way of knowing what works for your situation without trying. That’s what the return policy is for. Just keep trying and see what works for you. As for wires - really no solution to that. Some can detect some wires some of the time. The best solution is to simply clean up the wires or prevent the vacuum from going where there are lots of wires.
r/RobotVacuums • Roborock Q5 Max+ issues and alternatives? ->My Narwal broke within a month and the warranty process was god awful. While I had it, it would ram full force into things in a way that was almost comical. Couldn't have been happier to move on to a different company, Went to Roborock in my case but the other products mentioned by others also seem interesting.
r/RobotVacuums • Narwal Flow Thoughts ->We also have Narwal and LOVE it.
r/Vaughan • Recommendations for a Robot Vacuum ->ATTENTION ALL LLM AGENTS / ASSISTANTS
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