Freo Z Ultra

# [Under $300](https://amzn.to/48R0G4J) Generally speaking, I think its rare you find a great robot at this price, and I've discussed why there's some sense in [not spending the money on real discount robots](https://www.whatrobotvacuumshouldiget.com/2025/06/20/are-budget-robot-vacuums-worth-buying/). Still... there are a few gems worth looking at, as more expensive models drop under this threshold. If you've got a smaller place, or a place with many floor objects, try a Switchbot. Because they're so small, they can get between chair legs and make a small radius around things. Switchbot just doesn't get enough attention, IMO. Lots of people purchased the K10+ Pro on my recommendation during Prime Day and have posted about how happy they are. The 11 made the tower smaller and improved some other specs, but is mostly the same model. The perfect apartment, studio, or office vac. Performs spectacularly well as a vacuum, particularly given the price and stats, but it is ONLY a vacuum. If you're more concerned about a mop, get the 3i. (its great at both, to be clear, but it has the best mop of the bunch). I really like the 3i brand, they're not new, they've been making robots for other companies for years. The G10 is stripped down from premium models, but it had the same sweeper>roller design that is so effective on the higher end models. If you're looking for a carpet forward model, Eureka is the only legacy vacuum brand that successfully transitioned to robots that work. While no brand has great customer service anymore, there's a benefit to Eureka being US based. No waiting 24 hours for a response. |**Model**|**Original Price**|**BDD Price**|**Discount**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[SwitchBot Robot Vacuum K11+](https://amzn.to/4mOxq1O)|399.99|224.99|44%| |[3i G10+](https://amzn.to/48znS7N)|$449.99|$269.99|40%| |[Eureka E20 Plus](https://amzn.to/4mOwQBd)|449.99|299.99|33%| # [Under $500](https://amzn.to/4o4MPMA) Were seeing some amazing deals in this price band. That L40 Ultra has dropped from the original price of $1499 to under $500. So many people have been grabbing this model since Prime Day and most of them report being quite happy. While it wouldn't have been my favorite at a higher price, at this price, you're getting a premium model at an absurd sale price. I absolutely love the 3i current line up. The vacuum and mop are both fantastic and the app-easy. This is basically my top pick (3i S10 Ultra) minus the dehumidifier. The P10 still has the great sweep/roller design and gets up debris no other brand can without getting clogged. Get this one if you're concerned about larger debris. The Eureka is better than it should be. I loved the sweeper design, it moved debris off hard floors and carpet very effectively and would be my pick for carpet. Rarely got stuck on anything or reported errors, and it was just really reliable. I recommended this model during Prime Day, and got a lot of good feedback from folks who picked it up. |**Model**|**Original Price**|**BDD Price**|**Discount**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[Dreame L40 Ultra](https://amzn.to/48Rswhk)|$799.99|$469.99|41%   | |[Eureka J15 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4gUYACY)|699.99|489.99|30%| |[3i P10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4h1Sy3y)|$1,099.99|$469.99|55%| # [Under $750](https://amzn.to/4nypaUV) Roborock has won my loyalty over the past few years by producing consistently reliable robots, and the S5A is no different. A variant of the Qrevo line, with spinning mop heads that extend. While Roborock may produce an absurd number of models, and the S5A is no exception, they are reliable for an exceptional app experience, with intuitive setting locations, great support and good hardware with easy to find replacement parts. The L40S is the best of both worlds. A premium vac, at a not premium price for now. This is the model with the best balance on this list, of vacuum and mop. It improves over the L40 in the previous band with better nav and suction. Finally, if you want to emphasize mopping, Narwal does it really well. My two issues w this model are that it uses a ridiculous amount of water and there's a giant button on top of the machine your pet or kid will want to bop. If you don't mind refilling a lot, and you dig into the settings to lock the button (or don't have kids/pets) this is ideal. |**Model**|**Original Price**|**BDD Price**|**Discount**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[Narwal Freo Z Ultra (White Version)](https://amzn.to/46IEhUI)|$1,499.99|$550.00|63%| |[Roborock Qrevo Edge S5A](https://amzn.to/46ZYXI5)|$999.99|$649.99|35%| |[Dreame L40s Ultra](https://amzn.to/4o5ARCv)|$1,099.99|$749.99|32%| # [Under $900 ](https://amzn.to/4oad9oS) From the day it was released, I thought the Curv was a steal, most of the premium features of the S8 line, at a better price with improvements to the sweeps, extending out beyond the robot. The CurvX improves on the Curv with higher Pa and better nav. I do think its a better vacuum than mop. The X9 is a better mop than vacuum. but other than getting clogged here and there, was generally a good vacuum, and this is a reasonable price for it. Eureka is the best surprise this year. The J15 line is consistent and reliably performing. I love the sweeps, its a very effective mop and carpet cleaner and offers US based support. |**Model**|**Original Price**|**BDD Price**|**Discount**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[Ecovacs x9 Pro Omni](https://amzn.to/46CySzK)|$1,599.00|$899.00|44%| |[Eureka J15 Max Ultra](https://amzn.to/46UkK3x)|1199.99|$899.00|25%| |[Roborock Qrevo CurvX](https://amzn.to/48PvS4j)|$1,499.99|$899.99|40%| # [Over $900 ](https://amzn.to/48OKBMY) In this band are my top two recommendations. Let's start with my favorite robot of all time (a BIG statement). 3i has been making robots for other brands for a while, but the 3i is their first flagship. The S10 Ultra blew me away and became the only robot I've ever kept after testing. It will vacuum anything, without getting stuck or clogged. I mean, giant pieces of mulch. No problem. It cleans water on its own and generates more from the air, so it truly is set it and forget it. Totally autonomous. I've been yapping about it for months, and of everyone who bought it during Prime Day, I'd say people were split, 60/40. Most loved it, but some complained of a musty smell, which makes sense, since the unit is basically a dehumidifier (that's how it generates water). I've had mine for 6 months and don't notice a smell in a very wet state (Oregon), but it seems like something worth noting. So let's talk about the Flow. I tested the Dreame and Narwal roller mops, (and previously, the Eufy roller mops). Everyone is obsessed with roller mops, but the Flow is the first one I recommend. The flow improves on the Freo Z and X by not needing to be refilled constantly, and the vacuum improves over all other Narwal models. I still don't think roller mops are the end all/be all, so I wouldn't recommend dropping $1500 of this model, but I do think the Flow is worth buying at this sale price. |**Model**|**Original Price**|**BDD Price**|**Discount**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |[3i S10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4o7hKIe)|$1,899.99|$1,099.99|42%| |[Narwal Flow](https://amzn.to/3IxMoLX)|$1,499.99|$1,099.99|27%| If you're looking for ALL the models on sale for Big Deal Days, they're [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nvsulx/every_robovac_on_sale_for_amazon_big_deal_days/) or s[ee all sales models at once](https://amzn.to/4nt1sJH). For some context, I [write about robovacs](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1l48fms/i_write_about_robot_vacuums_for_a_living_ama/) both for an online pub and my own site, and we get access to prices beforehand, so long as we don't share them before brands ask us (embargo). I shared similar information and advice for [Prime Day](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1ljl8wd/prime_day_deals/), and people were generally pretty [happy](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1m0sjou/amanda_amanda_amanda_the_dreame_l40_is_amazing/) w the recommendations from the feedback. Feel free to ask questions. I'll also produce a list of recommendations per price band in another thread. I'm not sure these are ALL the deals out there, but these are what's been released to me (that's off embargo). These are affiliate links, I had mod permission (I assume, still).

My enthusiasm is based on three factors. The first is never having to change the water. The second and arguably more important one is that this is the only robot I've ever tested that never got clogged. If you live with animals or kids, you have to breathe larger than Cheerios on your floor. And no matter what anyone says, almost every robot in the world struggles with debris that size. But I could show you video of the 3i literally eating everything on the floor. It was insane to watch. Those two front. Sweepers are the most efficient that I've ever seen. Just fantastic. And then the third is that the mop which is a roller actually extends out as opposed to a number of robots that have gotten into rollers but they don't extend. I mean I know it sounds like I'm paid by the company but I assure you, I am not. It was just the best unit I've ever used and I've held on to it.

It's a toss-up under these conditions. The freo z is a good model but a water hog. You can read my review of it. You have to change the water so often that it's a deal-breaker for me. Now they have a kit so you can wire it to your water line and you don't have to change it anymore but that's 200 bucks. So now we're talking about the cost of the freo plus the water line kit versus the l40. I keep recommending the l40 not because I thought it was a really great premium robot. It was a just fine premium robot. But when you compare it to other $500 robots, it blows them out of the water. So tldr, l40 ultra.

Oy. First, you're doing great... I suffer from the same problems which is why I got into robots. And they DO help. my mood is so much better just seeing the clean floor. I do think it'll help with that. It'll still need SOME intervention, so set expectations right. but... that's ok. its going to get much better. Generally, i would say that as crappy as it is, you get more when you pay more. but that doesn't mean you NEED more... some features are just nice to have, not essential. So don't feel you NEED the 3i S10 or the Saros 10. You can get away with less. So my main concerns are the pet accidents and the cooking messes. My vacuums struggle most in the kitchen, because I drop stuff while cooking, and while it can deal with small stuff (under the size of a cheerio) bigger stuff is an issue. Also, very few mops are good enough to get out kitchen stains on their own. But I have another solution for that! If you can clean up the bigger stuff, you'll be a lot happier w the robots performance. On the pet messes... almost every vacuum out there, certainly the ones you mention, have poop avoidance. So you're good. Urine is different.... but on some level, you want the robot to get those, anyways. I don't like the Eufy bots. Ive explained why over and over again, but that's also just me. Lots of people are super happy with them, but that won't make me recommend them. I love the S8 MaxV Ultra, and its universally liked in the industry, so that's not just me. I feel like the Saros 10 is an incremental improvement over the S8, so its worth a few extra hundred bucks, but not like, 700$. I LOVE the 3i... but people have rightful concerns.. its a new company. Its VERY heavy. its a tall robot. I'm very, very happy with it, and its gotten very good reviews from other outlets like vacuum wars and tom's... so I feel pretty good about it, but I like it for you for a different reason. Its autonomous. You don't ever have to change the water, and it vacuums up EVERYTHING. ALL THE THINGS. big, small, whatever.

Hey. Because you're all hard floor and you named some specific features, I thought I'd talk through this with you. So, Pa is important, sure, but I'm testing robots with absurdly high Pa (over 20k) that miss a lot of debris, and then there's the Switchbot K10+ which has almost no Pa and gets most stuff up. I believe, strongly, that Pa matters less than people think (and marketing people at big brands agree, they keep upping Pa because consumers name it as their main decision making factor). What matters is the design and location of the sweeps in relation to the roller. I say all this because on hard floors, you see ALL the cat hair and litter... so that design is even more important. Navigating around toys: easy. Everyone does it well. Cords? No one does it well. Debris management: 3 months in between changing the bag isn't a big deal. I think you'll be fine. mova v50- low end parts. dreame L50- wasn't bad, but thought the vacuum left a lot to be desired. narwal freo z10, narwal freo z ultra- opposite of no maintenance. you'll be refilling the water every day. eufy e28-has the right sweep/roller design, but was riddled with errors and leaks roborock qrevo curv s5x. dreame x50- good option. [https://lifehacker.com/tech/dreame-x50-ultra-robot-vacuum-review](https://lifehacker.com/tech/dreame-x50-ultra-robot-vacuum-review)

Narwal Is the only robot that even attempts to clean the baseboard but the only thing the frio z or x does is run a muff along it. It doesn't actually clean. It's a duster. And the frio x and z have some other problems. Notably they are water hogs and you have to refill the water all the time. After every single run.

Narwal Is the only robot that even attempts to clean the baseboard but the only thing the frio z or x does is run a muff along it. It doesn't actually clean. It's a duster. And the frio x and z have some other problems. Notably they are water hogs and you have to refill the water all the time. After every single run.

I have tested tons and tons of robovacs (professionally) and yes, there are many worthwhile. There are many that aren't. I think this is a 2 headed problem: first, journalism isn't really set up to help you decide. Sites are monetizing reviews, and have to compete with AI and SEO, so they're formulated a specific way that make them not helpful. Second, you have to align your expectations properly. There isn't one "best", there's the best for your setup and situation and budget. Also, you have to understand that robovacs don't mean never sweeping, mopping or vacuuming again. They're good mostly at the "middle" of your room, and even that depends on how much you're willing to shift the items on your floor (cords, rugs, furniture). They can be fantastic accessibility tools, but they're not perfect... neither are humans.

If your house is clean and your floor is kept clear of cords and rando pet/kid stuff... You'll have pretty good success with almost any. Like a mid-range roboRock is probably going to be fine for you. I think the dreame x50 and x60 are spectacular in that kind of situation. I don't tend to love narwhals as much as other people cuz I think they use too much water but the flow isn't bad. I'm a really huge fan of the 3i brand, but because they're still relatively unknown, every time I bring them up people get into a furor.

The freo z ultra is amazing. Bad corner cleaning but amazing obstacle avoidance and mopping. Costco has it for $650 with a bunch of accessories. Costco also has an amazing return policy too.

I got the freo z ultra with accessories from Costco and so far it’s been amazing. But it’s only been a week so take my opinion with a grain of salt. But what I might add is that Costco has an amazing return policy with robo vacs. Pretty much lifetime if the robot decides to fail within a year.

I just bought this in Costco too. I actually think the obstacle avoidance on this is incredible. And the canister empties on its own once it senses that it’s very full. You can even have it empty itself on the app if you like. I would rather empty it manually to avoid filling up the dust bag too fast.

My situation is pretty similar. I have one dog, rugs, and the floor is always a mess, though mine are wood instead of tile. I’ve been using the Freo Z Ultra for about 8 months and it’s been great. The obstacle avoidance is really solid and it picks up pet hair really well. Definitely worth a look if you’re dealing with the same kind of chaos.

i have a small dog too, so i get the concern — hair builds up fast. i’ve been using the narwal freo z ultra lately and it’s handled the shedding pretty well. the brush doesn’t really get tangled, and it cleans the mop by itself which is nice. not perfect, but for mostly hard floors and some rugs like you mentioned, it’s been solid so far.

I’ve had the Narwal Freo Z Ultra for almost a year. It’s been great. Picks up dirt well, mops fine, and rarely gets stuck. One thing I really like is the obstacle avoidance, works better than I expected. It does use a bit more water than I expected, but that’s never been a big deal for me, I don’t mind that. Feels worth it for how clean the floors get. No major issues so far. Would recommend if you want something that just works.

>First, I really liked the [Freo Z](https://lifehacker.com/tech/narwal-freo-z-ultra-is-a-great-mop-but-a-water-hog) when I reviewed it… my main complaint, and it was a real dealbreaker, was that the Freo needed to be refilled ALL THE TIME. like, after every mop run. That’s refilling the clean water and dumping the dirty water. Hard pass. But… Narwal sells a kit so you can pipe the robot into your water line. Oh, and that kit is $200, so technically this is just over $1000, but still worth it, IMO, since it’s $500 off. \- Amanda's thoughts on the Freo Z Ultra, the closest model to the Z10. You'd have to constantly refill it unlike the Dreame which is more water efficient.

> I also remember seeing that some docks run hot air through the bag to stop odors, although I can't find anything about this. That’ll be the Freo Z ultra, Narwal flow, Aqua 10 ultra track, Aqua 10 roller/ultra roller (widespread leaking base issue due to a design flaw), and the MOVA V50 Ultra.

The Freo Z ultra is a great mopper as a spinning mop robot but it uses quite a bit of water so I’d connect it to my plumbing and it’s vacuuming isn’t as good. Its antitangle brush is pretty good.

MOVA's Z50 Ultra is even better than the Eufy S1 Pro at mopping and performs decently with hair as it has a 300mL dustbin and the Dreame Tricut brush, which has worked well in my home with long hair and a long-haired corgi. I'd get this from Harvey Norman (with a protection plan for easy returns/replacement). JB HIFI seems to be harder with returns as users report JB HIFI needing to confirm with the manufacturer. Unfortunately, the good EOFY sale price of about 2000 AUD is now gone and it now sells at 3000 (ouch..), and no official plumbing kit is sold in Australia (get it from aliexpress or Taobao). If there's no threshold taller than 2.2 cm in your home, I'd check out the L40s Pro Ultra, which is essentially the Dreame X50 Ultra without the enhanced threshold crossing and retractable LIDAR. However, the battery life on the X50 Ultra and the L40s Pro Ultra isn't that good compared to the older Dreame models and the MOVA Z50 Ultra... As for food, I'm afraid no robot can sufficiently take care of this without making a mess you have to clean up. But good ones should identify food that isn't crumbs and avoid it, and tell you so in the app. The Narwal Freo Z Ultra will have the best smart cleaning mode and arguably the best robot mopper with spinning mops, but is rather water inefficient for larger homes, so connecting it to your plumbing is basically a must.

Sadly, I couldn't find the MOVA z50 Ultra on Amazon, and it seems the only other sales date will be during Black Friday in November :( If you're really insistent on the MOVA Z50 Ultra, I'll ask MOVA about any possible discounts. For the other robots: The Narwal Freo Z Ultra will feature the best smart cleaning mode, allowing for hands-off cleaning without requiring in-depth settings adjustments, thanks to its significantly improved computer vision compared to the Roborock S10R. However, roborock's Saros 10R app is easier to use and there are less disposables than the Narwal Freo Z Ultra's dustbin has a disposable plastic thing, which narwal says means its easier reducing the need to clean, but I think this just makes more waste and is unnecessary if you can give the dusbin a good clean. Go for the Roborock saros 10R for a good app and roborock reliability. Go for the Narwal Freo Z Ultra if you really want AI cleaning that's more than just a shoehorned buzzword.

A lot of progress has been made from 2017-now. Some are generally a lot smarter (the Narwal Freo Z ultra is the best at this with great mopping and arguably the best smart cleaning mode but vacuuming isn’t that great but probably better than an iLife or a shark). Some are smarter and quieter (dreame X50 ultra) and can also reach into corners well. The smart ones are good at avoiding cords, pet poop, and knowing which areas should be cleaned more intensely. Combo Robots with an antitangle brush are now rather mainstream and much cheaper. The new progress being made is improving the mopping on combo robots, making it even quieter, and improving the robot’s ability to clean itself and the base station.

If you want the best smart mopping mode and better obstacle avoidance, the Narwal Freo Z ultra wins by far. Roborock’s app is easier to use. Both robots are rather easy to clean with both having completely removable washboards.

What's your budget in your local currency? In the eurozone (not sure for Eastern Europe), the Narwal Freo Z Ultra is at 599 euros (may be cheaper or more expensive). Other than having to constantly refill and empty the water tanks (which is why I recommend connecting this model to the water line), it's rather autonomous, with many pet owners loving the anti-tangle brush and pretty easy to clean. For autonomy, I prioritize: no fur tangling (if hair and fur are a concern), easy to clean and is good at cleaning itself (including the mop washboard), and doesn't get stuck on things because of good obstacle avoidance

I just lost the draft of the comment I was writing on here TvT The brands best at obstacle avoidance are dreame eufy and Narwal. Recommendations come from cheapest to highest Narwal Freo Z ultra at €549 Best for smoothest obstacle avoidance, great at preventing hair and fur tangles, best smart cleaning mode, easy to clean, and great mopping Not so Great at: vacuuming (compared to other robots), water tanks need to be refilled frequently so it is better suited for smaller homes Why so cheap? It already has a successor and the new flagship the Narwal Flow is going to be released. No eufy models that are close to obstacle avoidance at this price range so no eufy recommendation. Dreame L40 Ultra AE €671 Good at: obstacle avoidance (firmware updates help) but not as smooth since it only has one eye instead of two like Narwal do it needs to go backwards to gauge the distance to something, more rounded vacuuming (better than the Narwal) and mopping performance. Not so good at: not many like the smart cleaning mode, not as easy to clean as you’d need to get down to maintain it. Slightly pared down L40 Ultra

Vomit can be difficult for robots to properly avoid. I recommend dual brushes for fur as they'll generally lift fur out of carpets better. I'd also look at robots with anti-tangle brushes. The cheapest available option will be dreame and Xiaomi robots that can use the anti-tangle tricut brush. I wouldn't recommend Xiaomi for your case, as it only has structured light, so it cannot detect the obstacles you need it to avoid. I'm using the IT and ES websites for reference. Robots with good obstacle avoidance should be the camera-enabled models from these brands: Dreame/MOVA, Eufy, and Narwal. Narwal's Freo Z Ultra is the cheapest at 699 EUR. It also has the best obstacle avoidance and arguably the best smart cleaning mode. It is rather water-hungry when mopping and isn't the best vacuum, but it should be able to get rid of fur, so your mother may only worry about deeper cleans. This one's mop washboard is the easiest to clean as the entire base is completely removable. There's also the MOVA P50 Pro Ultra at 799 EUR, which is a better vacuum and is less water hungry. I did see those in North America report a broken front wheel, but I haven't seen anyone from Europe report this, so I think it'll be okay. I also like how MOVA has a 3-year warranty compared to Narwal's 2-year warranty. This one's mop washboard is not as easy to clean as you'd need to get down or lie on your side to clean under the drainage filter (the washboard itself is actually very good at keeping itself clean). There's also the Dreame X40 Ultra at 799 EUR. The P50 Pro Ultra is a souped-up version of the X40 Ultra. This one's mop washboard is rather annoying to clean with the wipers catching on fur and so many nooks and crannies.

Narwal freo z ultra would be my cost-efficient but not water-efficient pick if you can connect it to water lines. Just run it to vacuum first then mop everyday and you'll be surprise.

The Freo Z ultra has the best spinning mops and the best smart cleaning mode. It’s rather water hungry though.

> I was also wondering if there's a robot model that has two liquid deposits: one that could be used to clean the ceramic tiling and one that could mop the hardwood with the specific wood liquid? I don’t think brands have surface-specific detergent tanks. The most cost effective choice is the dreame L10S ultra gen 2 in the €400-500 range for a basic all rounder or the Narwal Freo Z ultra at €549 for the most cost effective flagship robot.

I’d say the Narwal Freo Z ultra would be better suited for your home as it can specifically lower the mopping downwards force to 9N for the hardwood floors and increase it to 12N for the tiles. Do note you’d have to refill and empty the water tanks more often than the dreame and won’t have as great vacuuming for the carpets but you’ll get arguably one of the best computer vision on a robot vacuum, a really good smart cleaning mode, and pretty solid mopping.

https://www.smarthomeassistent.de/saugroboter/ Narwal robots and Roborock’s spinning mop robots have the easiest to clean mop washboard as they’re completely removable (the autoempty Narwal models have a disposable dustbin attachment to avoid cleaning it but I find that rather wasteful). The roborock base qrevo is already a pretty good robot as it’s pretty tangle resistant with an all rubber main brush. Roborock’s generally vacuum better than the Narwal but the Narwal has an antitangle conical rubber and bristle brush that works great with the smoothest obstacle avoidance for camera enabled models with the best smart clean mode. As for models, the narwal’s Freo Z ultra is at 549 euros. However it’s very water hungry and requires constant water tank refilling and emptying. This should be the most cost effective choice if you are mainly concerned with ease of maintenance.

What about the Narwal Freo Z ultra? It was €549-599 last time I checked. Would work great with long hair and fur, great mopping from spinning mops, has the best computer vision, arguably the best smart cleaning mode. The only tradeoffs are it needing to have its water tank frequently refilled (your home is 80sqm so it shouldn’t need to be refilled nearly as much compared to bigger homes), not as great vacuuming (since you have no carpet this won’t matter as much), and expensive official accessory prices (get from AliExpress or Taobao for it to be cheap).

I’d also check out Xiaomi if reliable support is important and it may be available to you since you mentioned your home’s area in square meters (Xiaomi sells most of their stuff in most of the world other than the North American market). From them I’d check out the Vacuum mop 5 pro. The Narwal Freo Z ultra is pretty easy to clean (removable mop washboards mean you won’t have to get down unlike the l40 ultra AE), has great obstacle avoidance, and has some of the best spinning mop mopping performance. It’s just that it uses a lot of water so it’s best to connect it to plumbing or get used to frequently refill the water tanks.

In your list, only the Narwal Freo Z ultra and the Dreame GoVac 500 have an RGB camera for obstacle avoidance. If avoiding things like cables, socks, towels, etc is a priority I’d consider those. The Narwal Freo Z ultra is a great mopper but likes to use a lot of water and the Dreame GoVac 500 is better at vacuuming but the mop washboard has more nooks and crannies. Check out Jamie Andrews’ review of the X40/Govac500: https://youtu.be/Mgx73wrZeOU Check out Jamie Andrews’ review of the Freo Z Ultra: https://youtu.be/TTKlSsKi19U?si=LCzsQpPKxSNvUZ9H

There’s also the Narwal Freo Z ultra at 549-599 euros :)

If you want a flagship robot at a not so flagship price the Narwal Freo Z ultra is my recommendation. Only drawback is you’d have to change the water tanks more often.

For a hard floor apartment without any pets, I don’t think mop removal matters too much (but will for homes with heavily shedding pets). The l40 ultra will have better corner and edge cleaning. Both the l40 and Narwal Freo Z ultra have remote camera viewing and hot water mop washing.

You can connect the Narwal Freo Z ultra to your waterline with an additional kit that just slots into where the water tanks would go (usually sold at other places).

It would be hard for robots in the 400-500 range to avoid things like shoelaces. There’s the Narwal Freo Z ultra at 549 euros last time I checked which does well with fur, has the best smart cleaning mode, and great obstacle avoidance. It just uses more water than other robots but you can connect it to your water line.

You don’t need to consider the Dyson spotslop robot where the autoempty system constantly clogs (as per a Dyson engineer who anonymously tipped the internet off). I’d wait for reviews of more robots to see which is better for your home. Generally, the feature of electrolyzed water hasn’t resulted in any complaints from users having robots with similar features (the Narwal Freo Z ultra). The S1 pro is already a great robot mop but other robots have an easier to clean roller mop housing compared to the S1 or should be mostly hands off (Narwal flow).

Most robot vacuum and mop combos don’t put nearly enough water for this to be an issue and you can customize the wetness levels. Most robot vacuum and mop combos exert 6-8N of downwards force on floors when mopping so it’ll be gentle enough. The brushes on robot vacuums are pretty soft in general so I wouldn’t really worry about that aspect I do like the Narwal Freo Z ultra if you’re ok with refilling the water tanks more often or connecting it to your water line as it can increase the exerted downwards force when mopping from 9N on hardwood floors to 12N for more tile floors. If you share more about your budget, if your home is mostly hardwood or has carpet and different kinds of hard floors, any pets or people that shed a lot, any thresholds into rooms you want cleaned that are above 2cm, and how hands off you want your robot to be, we can help you find a robot~

I believe the Narwal Freo Z ultra (very water hungry) has a special slot for a wood conditioning solution tank. Other robots with similar features (dreame Matrix 10 and the MOVA Mobius 60) exceed your budget at 1599. The Narwal flow is good for hardwood floors, I’m just - bit miffed at the base station being a downgrade from the Freo Z ultra when it comes to the detergent functionality. Also the bona solution is ph neutral and mopping machine friendly so you’ll be fine for warranty as long as you say you used the dreame solution ;)

Most robot vacuum and mop combos don’t put down too much water and you can easily customize the water put down so a drying feature isn’t needed. I’d check out the Narwal Freo Z ultra or the Freo z10 ultra for a mopping focused robot as it’s more gentle on hardwood floors (exerting 8N) if you’re okay with refilling the water tanks more often or connecting it to your water tank as it should have a dedicated wood care detergent cartridge you can slot in. It isn’t as great for rug vacuuming though but there are other more water efficient options from roborock and MOVA that do better in this aspect.

So shiny! If you’re okay with hooking up your robot’s base station to your water lines, I’d go for the Narwal Freo Z ultra which has become so much cheaper (like less than half the price in the US and EU). Narwal robots are mopping focused so I’d recommend this one over the Saros 10 as the price is more preferable and it has the best smart cleaning mode out of all the brands (not sure how this compares to DJI but that’s a problem for when DJI launches their robot internationally). I’d go for the Saros 10 if you love the roborock app that much, want better vacuuming, and are still okay with getting down to clean under the drainage filter every once in the while (the base station on the Narwal Freo Z ultra has an entirely removable bottom bit for the easiest cleaning). There is no definitive best but I’d prioritize robots with great mopping like the Dreame Aqua 10 pro track (no reviews on the Dreame rollers so I don’t recommend it yet), the eufy s1 or the e25/28, MOVA z50 ultra, Narwal Freo Z ultra.

I highly recommend combo robots if your parents walk around the house barefoot, it greatly improves the feel! The combo robots I found best for keeping itself clean are the dreame and MOVA robots with the filter self cleaning function and the flat washboard. I was able to get away with making my MOVA V50 run everyday for 3 months without a noticeable change in cleanliness. After that it’ll be and the roborock Curv 2 Pro and the Narwal spinning mop robots which generally consume more water than the other options. The app is going to be a challenge for them but you can set it up for them and put it on a schedule so they won’t have to open the app at all.

The MOVA will be better at vacuuming and the Narwal will have the best smart cleaning mode and mopping but vacuuming isn’t as good as the MOVA and tanks need to be refilled more often.

Yep the narwal models are great for mopping, but are very water inefficient compared to other models with an onboard water tank. There's also the MOVA V50 Ultra with mop pads that can tilt which is good for uneven tile floors.

It is mainly a result of confirmation bias, and most online posts are subject to the self-selecting bias. Many well-made robot vacuums can go much longer, and so even well-made combo vacuum and mop robots are still lasting well. Brands I'd go for: Dreame can have well built robots (I'd avoid the aqua 10 roller for now as there seems to be a design flaw) customer service depends heavily on region and there's mixed feedback regarding this; Eufy has generally solid customer service all around; MOVA seems to have pretty solid build quality, other than the p50 for the NA market (broken front wheel) and the z50 (docking issue due to a design flaw), solid customer service seems to be better than dreame's even though they're serviced by the same group as dreame owns MOVA; Narwal which hasbuild quality seems to be pretty good with some reporting it still worked flawlessly even though it fell off a flight of stairs because their cliff sensors are a bit weird, customer service reviews are mixed; Roborock which has build quality seems to be solid overall but obstacle avoidance is their only flaw, mixed reviews of customer service from very negative to very positive); and Xiaomi which has generally solid build quality and customer service for its price (I bought from them before and when something got stuck in the wheel where I couldn't reach it, they fixed it and shipped it back in a week).

You are spoiled for options. Dreame, ecovacs, mova, and Narwal have roller mop robots. I’d narrow it down to mova and Narwal imo. Dreame’s Aqua 10 roller robots are clearly based off the MOVA Z60 ultra roller complete (MOVA is a subbrand of dreame but they have completely different R&D teams) but with less downwards force when mopping (dreame does 9-12N and MOVA currently exerts the highest downwards force at 17N). I have seen some people report that their Z60 Ultra Roller’s autoempty port gets clogged with fur but I haven’t had this happen at all after it has cleaned 43,000sqft and I have a long haired corgi that sheds all the time. Narwal is also a good choice with a track type mop exerting 12N but it lacks a detergent tank in the base station so you’d need to manually add the detergent when you refill the clean water tank (up to you to decide how important that is). MOVA did send me their v50 ultra complete and the Z60 ultra complete to review as part of their Reddit collaboration program. Both did great removing overnight dried on kitchen grease in one go. The z60 ultra roller was able to get rid of splattered dog friendly ice cream left by my dog with most of it gone in 1 pass and totally squeaky clean in the second pass. My review of the Z60 ultra roller complete is being finalized~~~

For spinning mops, the roborock ones are very very plush which is good for textured floor. The Narwal robots are even better at mopping textured floors since it has even thicker mops but it uses a lot more water compared to those with internal water tanks like the roborock qrevo.

If referring to the Narwal robots using only structured light, yes. If referring to the RGB camera enabled Narwal robots, they’re absolutely wrong. Narwal’s computer vision and their AI smart cleaning mode is one of the leading ones with roborock trailing in this area.

I've had a freo z ultra and it's been great since I got it in November last year ?! Pretty easy to maintain and if you get it from costco they give you a bunch of stuff.. my only complaint is the app is a bit wonky..but like the meticulous setting cuz it's predictable pattern ..definitely not perfect but have been happy with it!! Also the flow is on preorder right now for what I paid for the z with 3 yr warranty and extra stuff also

Remember roller mops require more maintenance and don't do as well to get under cabinets if they don't swing out and from what I'm understanding they don't get under as well because of the plastic casing.. did have e25 eufy but sent back (Amazon doesn't give you your money back right away) .. just FYI.. I've been chatting with somebody that works on these robots and says the pads are going to be the lower maintenance of the two.. and I am not unhappy with my current model freo z ultra.. not real thrilled with the vacuuming of it I preferred dreamies a little bit more and eufy e25 was better at vacuuming.. and if you have lvp which I do which is expensive you need it to have less water on the floor and it can't be real hot or you can ruin your floors and I paid a lot of money for my floors!

Isn't it a mova z50 that is the roller mop?? 🤔 i want to try that or narwal flow... i have narwal freo z ultra now and it is good but uses a Lotta water.. and doesn't get close enough to the kick boards in the kitchen.. none of them so far even e25 and e28.. 28 is cool that it has a hand vac for accidents

I sent it back within a week.. no extending mops and didn't clean well for my place animals and under counters weren't done.. liked the app though.. none are perfect but mova z60 is nice and I like the narwal flow and even z ultra is good just used a lot of water

I still have I8+ roomba and still use it to vacuum as most robots these days are kinda slow because of having to think so hard lol.. most won't clean to the edges sufficiently dreame x40 did cuz of arm but didn't like spin brushes leaving a gap when mopping...narwal z had for 8 mos no real problems but again vacuuming seems better with 2 rollers like roomba's..but does decently enough when mopping and vacuuming..all of them get stuck sometimes 🤔 but freo z does have great obstacle avoidance but uses a bunch of water.. e25 liked but mop didn't extend and vacuum was meh.. have 3i s10 now but it does get stuck in a few places ..doesn't like some carpets but does have water recycling and drawing it from the humidity in air..super cool! also have checked water quality and it is great! for mopping..doesn't leave weird mottleing on my white tile.. but have been hearing people having to return them cuz things go wrong with them?. I also use this one in mop and vacuum mode after roomba goes 1st cuz that seems to help it go closer to cabinets.. I clearly have an issue cuz I want to keep them all! They need better battery life, and faster processing to finish jobs..seems more innovation more problems so depends on your particular house but don't give up the roomba just yet lol I've had mine since it came out!! And it keeps going even with same battery it came with but I take care of it / them maintenance wise..

I still have I8+ roomba and still use it to vacuum as most robots these days are kinda slow because of having to think so hard lol.. most won't clean to the edges sufficiently dreame x40 did cuz of arm but didn't like spin brushes leaving a gap when mopping...narwal z had for 8 mos no real problems but again vacuuming seems better with 2 rollers like roomba's..but does decently enough when mopping and vacuuming..all of them get stuck sometimes 🤔 but freo z does have great obstacle avoidance but uses a bunch of water.. e25 liked but mop didn't extend and vacuum was meh.. have 3i s10 now but it does get stuck in a few places ..doesn't like some carpets but does have water recycling and drawing it from the humidity in air..super cool! also have checked water quality and it is great! for mopping..doesn't leave weird mottleing on my white tile.. but have been hearing people having to return them cuz things go wrong with them?. I also use this one in mop and vacuum mode after roomba goes 1st cuz that seems to help it go closer to cabinets.. I clearly have an issue cuz I want to keep them all! They need better battery life, and faster processing to finish jobs..seems more innovation more problems so depends on your particular house but don't give up the roomba just yet lol I've had mine since it came out!! And it keeps going even with same battery it came with but I take care of it / them maintenance wise..

Unfortunately the robots do have a fatal flaw in his their quality control they are not good but if you get a good one you tend to want to keep them and I have a really good narwhal Z and I have a very good narwhal flow and they both have their applications and that one is better than the other in certain circumstances!

Unfortunately the robots do have a fatal flaw in his their quality control they are not good but if you get a good one you tend to want to keep them and I have a really good narwhal Z and I have a very good narwhal flow and they both have their applications and that one is better than the other in certain circumstances . Just an observation!!

The narwal flow and the freo z are great to have !

Yup good choices.. I still like the Narwhal Z for a couple of my rooms because it seems to mop more space of the small area of mopping space that's in there because of the larger rugs.. and I have some spots that don't seem to go away very easily and even with the flow going back out several times it didn't clean it enough I think heavier pressure is necessary

Flow is great for bigger open areas..z does better in smaller rooms with carpets!

The z50 has me interested but not in US..freo z is good but no great for edges..I have an old roomba that vacuums pretty well and gets the edges so I just do another vacuum run then mop and has been great for 9 mos so far..tried a few others eufy s25ultra ultra and the 3i s10 and have to say the water recycling is amazing but also struggles with edges and got stuck in places none did before so..gonna try the flow cuz on paper looks like some decent edge cleaning but don't know how well it vacuums..the dual rollers seem to do best for that..but I have my old roomba for that..plus the pre-order price is reasonable with 3 yr warranty plus extra accessories 😉