Turbo is better than ultra in everything except the smaller objects. Toys I think the turbo would have no trouble unless it’s Lego size. Personally for me the camera does not matter because I throw all my kids toys on the sofa before I start the cleaning. If your not cleaning up the toys that spot won’t be cleaned so what’s the point in cleaning tbh
I actually have both the turbo and the ultra, the difference is that the turbo is more powerful and has more carpet centric features as in the roller brush actually dips down a little bit so I could scrub into carpets a little bit better, the other difference is that the ultra has cameras whereas the turbo doesn’t I found out the navigation on my upstairs is still really good and about comparable to the ultra, it’s a little slower, but I think that’ll change once I put a few more runs on it, as Narwal is really good with picking up it speed the more it runs throughout your house. But for $600, it’s a solid robot and through its first claim it leaves my floors sparkling.
I have nine robot vacuums. I just picked up a narwal flow z10 ultra over the weekend for $300, and I’m very impressed with it. Currently they have a new model of the Z 10 out called the turbo it’s supposed to be priced $900, but since it’s a new release, they have a $300 discount on it with accessory pack to come with it. I highly recommend checking it out. I just ordered one this morning.
I have five dogs all of them different breeds they shed a lot and so far I’m impressed with narwhals performance.
Genuinely I love hearing this because I’ve been recommending it, not knowing that it doesn’t have a front camera. I just found out directly after I got it in, but it doesn’t have a front camera like the ultra, but so far I’m actually pretty impressed with its performance, I remember there was a dude on here within the last couple of weeks who asked what robot was the best one to get that doesn’t have a camera because they were paranoid, and I would probably say this is the one
First full run today, it is slower than the ultra but it hasn’t gotten stuck on anything, I LOVE the polished look it gives my floors when it mops, it’s weird but I don’t get that loook from neither my mova v50, roborock saros 10r or dreame x60.
The slower time to the ultra could be due to it being the first full run though and I suspect it would get better with each run.
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The v50 is solid, but if you have a bigger space I can’t recommend the Narwal z10 ultra enough. I have both the turbo and the ultra.
Turbo has no camera/ultra has camera
Turbo is better for carpets.
I have 2 of them in my house, the narwal flow 2 and the z10 ultra, the z10 turbo I gifted to a friend was mine and the difference between the turbo and the ultra is the turbo has no camera, no voice control, but it’s supposed to have stronger suction.
I was actually surprised how well it performed. It’s also not that loud.
Narwal in my opinion has the best mopping of all the bits I’ve owned especially for dirt and litter tracking.
I also prefer them more than my mova v50
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It’s literally the hardest thing which is why I have 12 of these things, I started giving my older ones away as gifts for friends and people who actually need them, but since I have a 2000 square-foot downstairs with no carpet, I ended up getting the narwal flow 2 and it’s honestly been the best robot I’ve ever owned. I used to use the mova v50 upstairs but have recently went with the narwal z10 ultra as I picked it up on marketplace for $300, and I find it does a better job than the Mova, also it’s kind of nice to have everything on one app.
I had a Roborock curv, it’s about a year and a few months old now, ended up giving it to a friend as a housewarming gift and they absolutely love it but they have a very simple layout that’s about 500 ft.² half carpet half wood tile.
The other one I would look at is the narwal z10 turbo, I picked it up after falling in love with the Z 10 ultra, it’s supposed to be a more powerful version of the ultra, but with no cameras and white, it’s actually really similar to the curv but it cleans better.
I’d add the narwal z10 turbo on there. Just picked up the z10 ultra today on market place for 300$ and I’m very impressed with its performance. (Z10 turbo is on release sale rn for 600)
The only part I’m not too familiar with is height changes, as I live in the US we really don’t have thresholds, I imagine it has some sort of threshold climbing, but so far I’m very impressed with its performance and the fact that hasn’t gone, stuck on anything. And I currently have nine different robots.
I just bought the Narwal Freo z10 turbo and use it on my upstairs. I have 2 dogs. One corgi and one Horgi. (A half Husky half Corgi mix) And Believe me brother that I know all about fur and dog hair. This robot vacuum cleaner is kicking ass it's only been a week so far but I'm very impressed. If you want to step it up a little bit go for the ecovacs X9s. It's worth every bit of it's price tag.
I got a Narwal Freo V10 because I read they had no problems with pet hair.
It’s fantastic. It doesnt get clogged or wrapped on a bar. Just does exactly what I need.
Hey. Because you're all hard floor and you named some specific features, I thought I'd talk through this with you. So, Pa is important, sure, but I'm testing robots with absurdly high Pa (over 20k) that miss a lot of debris, and then there's the Switchbot K10+ which has almost no Pa and gets most stuff up. I believe, strongly, that Pa matters less than people think (and marketing people at big brands agree, they keep upping Pa because consumers name it as their main decision making factor). What matters is the design and location of the sweeps in relation to the roller. I say all this because on hard floors, you see ALL the cat hair and litter... so that design is even more important.
Navigating around toys: easy. Everyone does it well. Cords? No one does it well.
Debris management: 3 months in between changing the bag isn't a big deal. I think you'll be fine.
mova v50- low end parts.
dreame L50- wasn't bad, but thought the vacuum left a lot to be desired.
narwal freo z10, narwal freo z ultra- opposite of no maintenance. you'll be refilling the water every day.
eufy e28-has the right sweep/roller design, but was riddled with errors and leaks
roborock qrevo curv s5x.
dreame x50- good option. [https://lifehacker.com/tech/dreame-x50-ultra-robot-vacuum-review](https://lifehacker.com/tech/dreame-x50-ultra-robot-vacuum-review)
Narwal Is the only robot that even attempts to clean the baseboard but the only thing the frio z or x does is run a muff along it. It doesn't actually clean. It's a duster. And the frio x and z have some other problems. Notably they are water hogs and you have to refill the water all the time. After every single run.
Narwal Is the only robot that even attempts to clean the baseboard but the only thing the frio z or x does is run a muff along it. It doesn't actually clean. It's a duster. And the frio x and z have some other problems. Notably they are water hogs and you have to refill the water all the time. After every single run.
I have tested tons and tons of robovacs (professionally) and yes, there are many worthwhile. There are many that aren't. I think this is a 2 headed problem: first, journalism isn't really set up to help you decide. Sites are monetizing reviews, and have to compete with AI and SEO, so they're formulated a specific way that make them not helpful. Second, you have to align your expectations properly. There isn't one "best", there's the best for your setup and situation and budget. Also, you have to understand that robovacs don't mean never sweeping, mopping or vacuuming again. They're good mostly at the "middle" of your room, and even that depends on how much you're willing to shift the items on your floor (cords, rugs, furniture). They can be fantastic accessibility tools, but they're not perfect... neither are humans.
If your house is clean and your floor is kept clear of cords and rando pet/kid stuff... You'll have pretty good success with almost any. Like a mid-range roboRock is probably going to be fine for you. I think the dreame x50 and x60 are spectacular in that kind of situation. I don't tend to love narwhals as much as other people cuz I think they use too much water but the flow isn't bad. I'm a really huge fan of the 3i brand, but because they're still relatively unknown, every time I bring them up people get into a furor.
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