Neato Robotics - D7 Connected

The differences between versions is typically pretty small if you're shopping between versions that are 1-2 yrs apart. Unless you \*really\* need a feature or just want the newest thing, I would never recommend folks upgrade in that window of time. My personal success metric on a robot vacuum is simply whether I need to babysit it. My old Neato Botvac D7 required a lot of attention, brush maintenance, and would still get lost periodically. It was best of breed back in the day, but enough time elapsed that switching to the Curv was game changing. I ended up buying a second Curv for the 2nd floor, despite having the option of buying a Saros 10R at the time. I'm probably good for another 5-7 yrs. For me to buy sooner, it would have to be a life changing feature set that actually works.

D7 here On its 3rd life Last replacement was the spindle to turn the brush Do like it

Yeah, I have a Neato D7 that is on its last legs. I've rebuilt it bout 6 times using parts from junkers. It's served me well since 2018 or so, but it's toast. I have to clean the dirt container on the d7 after every run so a couple weeks is fantastic. I'm a little surprised at the report on carpet. Reviews I have read said due to the high suction, this was a strong point. But if it can at least get it done without the battery draining that'd be great.

As a long time Neato user, thanks to the early shutdown of their servers, I had to find an alternative to my 3 botvacs that have been very reliable with nightly cleaning for several years. The products have certainly changed since I bought my last D7, and sorting through all of the offerings has been a challenge, since pretty much anything is going to be an upgrade. So, after spending days reading reviews, this reddit, and several other sites/videos, I settled on two Dreame L40 Ultra's. At 399 BF price, they seem like they have a lot of bang for the buck. Hopefully I won't be sorry. Our house is all tile floors with some area rugs, and has two adults and two indoor cats, so we have some light messes and hair to keep cleaned up. I hope the mopping feature is a nice little bonus. Good luck on whatever you choose.

My j7+ served me fine, never had any mechanical issues. But, hairs tangled around every rotating part, so it needed cleaning weekly, and it was stupid, even though it was smart, it did get tangled, navigation errors, telling me can't get into room when it could easily. L50 has clever design, I haven't yet discovered where hair starts to tangle, but I'm really sceptical how long it will last. I did read somewhere new roombas aren't so easy to repair like old ones, tbh that easy modular design made me go j7 and no roborock. And that was wrong decision, irobot has fallen way way way behind when it comes to innovation and features, and I saw with my own eyes how stupid j7 was, even app sucks. Nah would not say my irobot was best vacuum I have had, but it worked as in no mechanical issues. Neato D7 before that has stupid design with side brush that uses small belt, had to change that belt after not much use. And it had all kinds of bugs in software, but cleaned way better that j7 ever did, that big front brush was good, and it had three times the suction of j7.

I got my Saros 10R yesterday around this time (purchased it myself). I'm upgrading from a S7 Max V. Had a Neato D7 before that and a Robock S5 Max and very briefly a Dreame X40 that broke. [https://i.imgur.com/NwJO3iC.png](https://i.imgur.com/NwJO3iC.png) **Few things before I go into it:** I live in a relatively small home. My first floor is mostly hardwood/tile with a 15x20' area rug in the living room. My second floor is all deep carpet. I have a long haired German Shepherd and a wife that both shed a fair amount of longish hair. I keep my rooms mostly tity but my computer does have a fair amount of cables/wires that are wrapped together, but run along the floor. My wife also has a Korg keyboard that has a foot pedal and she often leaves it on the ground. **Super Pros:** * General hardwood/tile mopping significantly better than the S7 Max V. My wife and I both noticed it immediately after the first clean I ran. It covered more areas, got closer to objects (the pivoting side mop helps a lot with that) it reached under my cabinets and it was able to get under two pieces of furniture the S7Max couldn't fit under. * Low Pile Rug performance is much better. I do wish I could set it to 2x crisscross every time on the area rugs.. but the mixed pattern will have to do. * It's way, way, way quieter. General runs are quieter. Max+ mode (or w/e its called) is way quieter. Mopping is now nearly silent. The transfer from robot to base is much quieter than the S7 MaxV. * The Anti-Tangle brush is actually Anti-Tangle. All my previous vacuums would get hair tangled in a single run - I'd clean them at least once a week (neato way more) to get all the hair out. After 24 hours, I see 0 hair stuck. Not one. * The feature set is more rich over the S7 Max. This one is a think a bit annoying because I feel like a some of these features the S7 could do, its just software locked.. but having the ability to do pet area deep cleaning, mixed pattern cleaning, the rug options + all the leave behind the mops, extensions, re-mopping, etc is all really cool. * The detergent dispenser is a nice addition over the S7 MaxV. * The ability to clean out the tray and the self cleaning stuff is super nice. **Kind of Pros but maybe a little not:** * Hair Pickup on carpet is better than the S7 MaxV but still worse than the Neato D7. * I confirmed this by running the S7 Max V first (with rubber brush), on my upstairs carpeted room - that I purposely haven't vacuumed in a week. S7 Max V barely got anything and had some wrapped around the edges - as it does. The Saros 10R filled about a quarter of it's bin - but no tangles! The Neato filled the entire, much larger, bin, the chute partially jammed with hair and the bristle brush was wrapped completely. Neato is still king of deep carpet cleanup (if you ignore how jammed full of hair it gets) * I think the takeaway here is that the Saros 10R is big improvement but I find Roborock still lacks with hair pickup on deep carpets - even area rugs, to an extent.. over much older vacuums. * Pivoting Side Brush is good.. sometimes? When it works, it obviously works and pulls stuff out of corners, I don't find it working that often though - especially under the cabinets/corner cabinets. It comes outsometimes for a bit then goes away. (this is with the AI Lab Flexi arm thing enabled). * Navigation seems similar/better. In terms of actually going around and finding how to get there, it seems quicker (i haven't timed it) and it does less random movements like my S7 Max V did both during and after its cleaned. **Cons:** * The obstacle avoidance seems worse, maybe even way worse? I know it's only been 24 hours and I know the system the 10R specifically uses is new, but so far it's been pretty bad at detecting things, especially cables. * Yesterday when I was messing around with it, it ran into one of my dogs stuffed toys and got stuck on it. It also decided to "jump" little tray tables I have under my sofa, and got stuck on a wire behind them. (I set this as a no-go from now on). * This morning was the first time I ran it on a schedule - I do it early before I wake up, but I woke up to it stuck on the cable for my Wife's keyboard, the mop got wrapped in the cable and it pulled it off. * Just an hour or so ago today, when I was testing the carpet pickup on the second floor, it ran into a sock under my nightstand and got jammed. * Kind of disappointing considering my S7 Max V maybe got stuck twice, in the entirety of 2 years I owned it. I'm chalking this up to a combination of bad luck, weirdness because it's trying to hop stuff the others wouldn't attempt, and relatively new firmware on a new type of obstacle avoidance system. I hope it will improve. * All the Bins are too damn small. * My dog blows his coat twice per year. When that happens my S7 Max V can sometimes get nearly filled with dog hair. I've had to split rooms up into subrooms in order to force it to go back to the dock more often to empty. In this case - the Saros 10R not only has a smaller bin, but it's better at cleaning hair. I can see this being a problem. * It seems to use more water than my S7 MaxV while mopping, yet the clean and dirty bin are both smaller. Which means more refills. * The gloss on the front of the dock is a fingerprint magnet. I hate it. **Conclusion:** Overall, again after only 24 hours, I think its' a pretty nice upgrade over the S7 MaxV and I plan on keeping it. I'm hoping software improves the obstacle avoidance, which is my biggest concern at the moment. I also hope Roborock continues to improve it's suction/hair pickup performance - i really hope youtubers also create better tests for this. A lot of these guys say these newer robots are "perfect" at it and it's just not been my experience at all. They are getting better - in fact tangles seem solved, which is great, but they also leave a ton of hair behind.. even when compared to older robot vacuums but especially compared to a Dyson or something. **If anyone has any questions or wants anything specifically answered let me know ill do my best to respond.**

Currently on the hunt for a new robot vacuum after Neato D7 died after 6 years of faithful service. The D7 was champion on carpets with out of the world suction. For the next vacuum wife said to pick one that has mopping and a base station that automates most tasks. With that on mind, we narrowed our search to Roborock and Mova. We had considered Ecovacs top of the line model but was put off by the reliability ratings from users. What we prioritize most is, hardfloor vacuuming and mopping skills and the best automation possible with dock. Secondly, the app performance for responsiveness and granular controls. Don't really care about the robot vacuum needing to scale Mount Everest like obstacles (seriously why though...?) or voice assistants. With this in mind which of the two robot vacuums would you recommend? Roborock QRevo CurvX or Mova V50 Ultra - both are similarly, but Roborock is the slightly more expensive accounting for discounts as we. Would've like the Mova Z50 Ultra if it releases in North America but alas the choices are these

I recently got a shark nevertouch combo robot from Costco and it’s amazing! I first tried a roborock and iRobot j9. The shark is better and I researched and watched videos on more expensive ones and it gets my floors so clean I think it’s the best but right now. The roborock was horrible on carpet. My first was a neato d7. It vacuums really well. New one had to at least come close!

I am using the X40 for 6 months and It is amazing. So much better than my previous Neato D7.

We have a Neato D7, which does not apply as a recommendation, since the company is out of business. But, OP, we, uhh, don't vacuum as often as we should. After getting the robot vac, our floors had never been that clean. The house is mostly carpeting, with some bare floors, it does fine on the carpet. Yes, I need to remove wrapped hair from the brushroll periodically. But being able to have the robot run daily, weekly, or whatever your situation requires, is really nice. I did just recently got a nice canister vacuum. And I'm sure it picks up more than the robot does, since the power levels are hugely different. It is definitely a nice machine. But it's still a manual process, meaning it's only as useful as we "make" it. If you're vacuuming every week, it will do great. If things get busy and you're vacuuming less often, a robot probably offers more benefits, since it will keep up with things for you. Put differently, for our situation (not vacuuming weekly), the robot has offered more benefit, compared to a higher-end manual vacuum. Especially since, for instance, every day it going around and vacuums the bathroom, picking up cat litter which has been kicked out of the box. So that area gets vacuumed frequently, and we don't have to do anything.