Roborock - Q5 Pro +

I would recommend Roborock Q5+ Pro it has self emptying dock you just need to change vacuum bags when it's full. I have 2 cats and before I got mine I had to vacuum every single day. And after I started using it there's no hair on the floors, and it's also really good on the carpets. It deals with long hair well not getting tangled on the rollers. Also Roborock's app is the best in the business you got various of features you can choose to get the most of your robot. Q5+ pro is not really made for mopping even though it has that ability, but I only care about vacuuming since I mop myself anyways. And it has no obstacle avoidance but if you pick stuff up from floors that can be sucked up you got nothing to worry about, obstacle avoidance has gotten overrated imo some more expensive models with that function still sucks things up as it's no guarantee. Save some extra bucks and go with the Q5+ pro. Hope this helps:) Cute puppy btw

Roborock Q5 pro+

It is the best bang for the buck if you don't care the slightest about mopping.

5500Pa suction is good enough to do vacuuming it's enough to pick up screws and other heavier smaller debris than normal dust. I have owned one of these and they are also good on carpets due to the dual roller system. The models with higher suction also comes with more focus on mopping performance

I have a Q5 Pro+ with self empty dock and its amazing for pet hair and so on, I got two cars who shed some hair. Especially on carpets it really does a fantastic job. But only downside is that it has no obstacle avoidance or camera. I wanted to ask you guys if it really is worth those hundred dollars or is just a bonus feature but not necessary? I dont even care about the mopping feature, never used it. The robot does sometimes bump a little into things but its not something that is disturbing me. I also make sure to get rid of cables and small objects from the floors before a cleaning session. I read all these reviews people complaining about not having obstacle avoidance is a bit meh but like I said it doesn't bug me.

It has happened it run over pet toys, cables and it even sucked up a sock once but after that i started to prepare the home. Would sometimes be nice to not having to do so especially if get home from work all tired. Reason I ask is Ive heard even with obstacle avoidance it doesn't necessarily guarantee avoiding objects. And also it cost alot more just to have that feature I wonder if it was really a deal breaker for a robotic vacuum cleaner today.

Object avoidance is a joke on my master. It offers zero tangible improvement over my Q5 Pro+ with LIDAR alone. The only redeeming factor of the camera is being able to see where the vacuum is - and / or help rescue it if it indeed got stuck on something.

These models should be under 500 in the US, please share your purchasing region (usually country). The Q5 Pro Plus is a good choice.

For a vacuum only option, the Q5 Pro is a good workhorse :)

What’s your purchasing region? Perhaps the Roborock Q5 duoroller model with no self empty station or the Eufy L60 would be a good choice.

I literally just purchased a Q5 Pro+ for $360. Is it worth switching to the max instead? Scared to open my package now haha.

Q7 is outdated. Q5 is the better and even cheaper successor. Don't be fooled by the "5" vs. "7". Q8 is the same as Q5 but with obstacle avoidance. Q7 and Q5 have none. Still don't trust the Q8 avoiding pet waste. It works most of the time but never risk an accident. With the idea of running 2x a day the "+" dock is surely a must-have.

Roborock S5 was such a low complexity model, going strong for many years. Now with more recent models, vacuum-only limits the search to Q5, Q7, Q8. Most of these claim to be "vac + mop combo" but that's just a passive cloth dragged behind. Not really worth discussing. They all have very good mapping and navigation in common. Roborock is famous for that and even the cheapest model does the job well. So depending on what you want, what you actually need, you might be perfectly satisfied with a Q7 M5+ or Q8 Pro+. One thing to note, Spending more money on a Roborock doesn't automatically mean the robot would be built with higher quality and last longer. It has just more features then. More motors, more moving parts, more wear and tear. Second note, Prices do not necessarily reflect the value. Roborock has some strange pricing strategy that no-one understands. For example, Q5 Pro+ is currently at $600 which is insanely expensive and cannot be recommended right now. I guess there's some tariff glitch included whatever.

For this budget, S8 Max Ultra or Qrevo Master. They are both good moppers, but have limited dustbin capacity. So if your dog is really shedding furballs, I would consider a vaccuum only robot with huge dustbin like Q8 Max+ or even larger on the Q5 Pro+, although the latter has no active obstacle avoidance. The perfect all in one robot does not exist. There's too much compromise due to the limited space and size constraints.

If you go ahead with the replacement, here are three options -- two that are common recommendations, and one that's new as of this year, but may be worth a look. If you're wanting to change brands, look at the Roborock Q5 series. The Max+ has no mop, while the Pro+ has a mop. I only mention the Pro+ because a few of the sales seem to have the Pro+ cheaper than the Max+, and the only difference is the presence of the mop, so check which one is cheaper. Both have a dual-roller brush, which is reported to do better with hair tangles. If Eufy is still on your list, there are two interesting options. The L60 SES/Hybrid is a pretty good option. The Hybrid has a mop; same story as the Roborock. It has a blade in the base station that cuts hair tangles off the roller. If you're willing to take a little risk, Eufy just released the E20. It's a bit pricey, but is essentially a vacuum unit that can be used as a vacuum-only robot, a handheld cordless vac, or a cordless stick vac. You can switch back and forth pretty much at will. It's risky because it's new, and pretty much all the reviews available are sponsored, so of course the E20 is revolutionary and game-changing. :-) Independent reviews and real user reports are starting to come out, but it's still pretty slim pickings. Of your requested features, the one you might have to compromise on is the obstacle avoidance. For whatever reason, the manufacturers don't put the best obstacle avoidance on vacuum-only robots. All of the above have some level of obstacle avoidance, but your current X10 is going to be better than pretty much all of them (with the possible exception of the E20).

Of these, the worst mopping will be the Q5 and Q8 robots, which just have stationary pads attached to the back. The S8 also has a pad attached to the back, but includes a scrubbing motion via a plate that vibrates at a high speed. It's better than the Q5 and Q8. The best mopping will be on the Qrevo and Eufy X10. They have spinning mop pads, a dock which refills the water tank on the robot from its own water tank, and also cleans the pads automatically and stores the dirty water in another tank on the dock. Of the last two, each has its strengths and weaknesses. The X10 will be better at obstacle avoidance. The Qrevo is a Roborock, which has a better reputation for quality and reliability than the Eufy, and is also rated a little better than the Eufy at a lot of things: vacuuming performance, mopping performance, etc. It also can swing out one of its mop pads for better edge and corner cleaning, something the Eufy can't do. In some cases, obstacle avoidance is really critical, in which case I'd recommend the Eufy. Otherwise, the Qrevo is likely your best bet.

I wouldn't buy a shark from complaints I've seen on reddit, I have owned the l60 and the Q5 Pro which is pretty much the same as the Q5 Max but has the water tank. The L60 only has a 2600 mah battery compared to 5200 mah battery for the Q5 Max and the L60 seemed to bounce along low pile carpet for me and I've seen other people complain the same thing. I'm very happy with the Q5 Pro. Good Luck

I had a Eufy L60 SES and the problem with it was that it only has a 2600 mah battery compared to the Roborocks standard 5200 mah battery. I did return it and got a Roborock Q8 Max + and like it much better. Another problem with the L60 is it seemed to hop along carpets rather than run smooth across the carpet. The Q8 Max has 5the electronic pump water for mopping which is just drag behind mopping. If you don't care about mopping I think your best bet would be the Roborock Q5 Pro +. It has a water tank on it for mopping but it really is useless because it is just gravity fed water and many times doesn't even wet the floor. [https://www.amazon.com/roborock-Q5-Pro-Self-Emptying-Hands-Free/dp/B0C7VN9NWK?ref\_=ast\_sto\_dp&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/roborock-Q5-Pro-Self-Emptying-Hands-Free/dp/B0C7VN9NWK?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1) If you can get closer to your $500.00 budget the Qrevo S is a steal at $460.00. That will do a good job of mopping and vacuuming. [https://www.amazon.com/roborock-Qrevo-Self-Drying-Self-Emptying-Refilling/dp/B0CTZXJTGJ?ref\_=ast\_sto\_dp&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/roborock-Qrevo-Self-Drying-Self-Emptying-Refilling/dp/B0CTZXJTGJ?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1)

The Roborock [Q5 Pro](https://www.amazon.com/roborock-Q5-Pro-DuoRoller-Navigation/dp/B0C7VLHMQR?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1) has the new dual counter rotating brushes and it you need the auto empty dock then go for the [Q5 Max+](https://www.amazon.com/roborock-Q5-Max-Self-Empty-Hands-Free/dp/B0CWQP4Y4R/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=2FNU9&content-id=amzn1.sym.255b3518-6e7f-495c-8611-30a58648072e%3Aamzn1.symc.a68f4ca3-28dc-4388-a2cf-24672c480d8f&pf_rd_p=255b3518-6e7f-495c-8611-30a58648072e&pf_rd_r=TKSE7XNMT08625DKVV41&pd_rd_wg=Dpw6E&pd_rd_r=407ce496-bca0-4f1b-9fb1-36d3449e3c5b&ref_=pd_hp_d_atf_ci_mcx_mr_ca_hp_atf_d&th=1). They are good at cleaning and navigating. You can set them on a schedule or run whenever you want. They are both still at black Friday prices and are a steal at these prices.

For just vacuuming you should look at the Q5 Max+, Q5 Pro+ or the Q8 Max+. For the Q8 Max Plus you are paying extra for the electronic water pump for mopping that the Q5 products don't. You can compare up to three Roborock products at the following link Good Luck [https://us.roborock.com/pages/robot-vacuum-cleaner-compare](https://us.roborock.com/pages/robot-vacuum-cleaner-compare)

The Q7 only has 4200 pascals of suction and I believe is on close out. The Q5 and Q8 both have 5500 pascals of suction.

I have two long hair dogs and a long hair cat and cannot live without a robot vacuum to help keep hair off the floor. I’ve had multiple Roombas, including the fancy ones that take a dirt dump into the self-contained bag. In the spring, mine crapped out and i decided to shop around. Roomba QC has deteriorated and the replacement rollers, etc. are crap and crazy expensive. I replaced it with a Roborock Q5 Pro + and have never looked back. It’s crazy quiet, the mapping is excellent, and in the almost six months that i’ve had it, i haven’t had to replace the rollers or spin brush once (unlike Roomba, which had its spin brush break every three weeks.) And it’s so much less expensive than a Roomba

We recently got a roborock q5 pro+ as well and I am pretty satisfied! (We went up a level because we have long hair dogs and this one has a bigger dustbin, but it's otherwise pretty much the same as the q5+) It doesn't get everything up but it does get enough dog hair/dust/etc up between weekly vacuumings. We have hardwoord and low pile floors. Self emptying (the ones with a dock) was really important for me. I have not tried mopping and don't particularly care about that feature.

I've bought the eufy x8 pro SES 2 days ago, but it still get tangled with long hair, x8 pro SES and L60 SES is same price here, so I chose the x8, but I don't think it's worth the extra $200 for you. For Q5 pro+ I've found that it doesn't have no mop zone option, that will be a deal breaker if you have carpets/rugs which you don't want to get mopped. So I would suggest you to go for the L60, the hair cutter in base station might be helpful, but don't expect much, so far my understanding is all robot vacuums struggle with long hair, so be prepared to untangle manually occasionally.

It's the same product, only the pro has the mop feature (which is useless anyway), so if you don't need the mop and the products are the same price, you can keep your q5 pro+ and just use it as a vacuum.

I have the q5+.  I suspect that it is house geometry, obstacle, and rug specific, but I find mine gets lost and stuck a lot, and has trouble picking those pesky little black sock bits out of my white carpets.  It requires a lot of babysitting for me.   I would be surprised if it is really the best, though I still find it useful and am glad that I have it.

But to answer your question, look for the roborock Q5 pro+. I believe that is the auto empty robot. Maybe the Q5 Pro is cheaper and without the auto empty. Regardless, buy a refurbished one directly from roborock on eBay. It will come with 2 year warranty backed by all state. If any issues happen after the 1st year, all state will fix or refund you the entire amount you paid. This paid off for me with my previous ecovacs robot.

Look at the Roborock Q5 Pro + for currently half the price on their web site. Most vacuum specs are largely nonsense in the real world. What you want for pet is double rollers and a bin that big enough to not tangle pet hairs in the rollers.

The dock is nice for people with pets, as some would need to empty the bin daily. But I agree that for vacuuming there is no reason to buy the more expensive models except that Roborock prefers to have more of your money. The Q series has the full Lidar system and the nice software. I went from S6 to Q5 and now also have the Q5 Pro +. There is little difference in vacuuming performance since I've owned the Roomba Red 20 years ago. I have hardwood floors, and would never regularly robomop. So I don't know about mopping performance. Eufy is another high value brand to consider. But I stick with Roborock for performance and software.

Absolutely love my Omni S1 Pro and Q5 Pro.

The omni is excellent at mopping and cleaning, good edge clean and obstacle detection. It’s very quiet too. The Q5 is good on carpet, much cheaper but needed it for upstairs where there’s mostly carpet. The apps good on both too. I came from a 7 year old Neato D7 that had gone senile so a bit of a jump!

Im happy af with q5 pro. What i need to do is change bag once for 3-4months and that's it

My Q5 Pro sometimes could get on it, sometimes not but when it could vacuuming it was no problem.

I have the Q5 pro. I love it! I bought a Eufy and it worked like a toy, didn’t dock and had to get a refund. I don’t use the mop function since it’s upstairs in the bedroom areas. But I run it everyday multiple times a day if needed. It leaves beautiful lines, I highly recommend the Q5. My ex had sharks and went through them so quickly. Shark had to keep sending him models because they kept breaking or having errors.

My ex had sharks that kept breaking. He hates them but they keep replacing them in the mail with another broken vacuum robot. I highly recommend the Q5. I have the pro without the self emptying, it’s perfect for 1,300 sq ft and two cats. I can go a week without emptying but I empty it every few days. Highly recommend the Q5

Roborock Q5+ duoroller. I also vacuum with a Miele canister vacuum. German Shepherd and 3 cats. I only have one throw rug and the rest is solid floor. I will note though that I break my house up into sections. 1 day 50% is vacuumed the other day the other 50%. I have a 3 bed 2 bath ranch house with a small dining room. IDK the SQ FT but it's not big but it's not small. I broke it up into 2 sections otherwise the vacuum gets a little full if I forget to use the Miele that week.

I can't imagine not having self empty. You will absolutely love that feature. If you're sure you don't need a mop (I didn't think I needed one, but I really like it and I don't even have kids or dogs), I would look at the Roborock Q5+ duoroller or similar. I highly recommend getting a robot with lidar navigation. it works so much better than older bump and turn systems. iRobot kinda sucks these days from what I understand. You can definitely have a robot vac run in a different room while you're cleaning elsewhere. That said I think the best way to use a robot vacuum is to set it on a schedule. I have a robot on each of the two floors of my house. I have our fancier Qrevo Pro vacuum/mop the kitchen everyday and do the rest of the floor twice a week. Downstairs I have a Roborock Q7+ that vacuums the back entry way everyday and the rest of the floor twice a week

Do you have bristle brushes? If so, that's your problem. See if any of these kind will fit your model- [https://a.co/d/07ErAUvj](https://a.co/d/07ErAUvj) I've got the Q5 Pro+ and it's never gotten tangled. Hair will still get wrapped around the shaft end a bit, but it doesn't impact performance. Golden, Lab, Border collie / bernese mix. Lots of fur flying around here.

There are very few sources that are reliable. Q5 Pro should perform better than Q5 on carpets thanks to the double brush which provides much better agitation. Roomba's navigation is much better than it actually seems by looking at it, and M6 yeah is one of the iRobot products with worse navigation... And most importantly, Roomba's pickup performance is miles above all other robots (unless you go with extremely expensive ones such as Dyson 360° VisNav, or discontinued ones like Electrolux Pure i9.2) so if that's factor #1, you really should keep them in consideration :)

We have a self-emptying Roborock that vacuums soft surfaces and mops hard surfaces. We love it sooooo much. I can’t imagine the state our floors would be in without it 🫣

Don't spend $1000 on one, go for one around $350-$400 with an auto emptying dock. Roborock is my favorite. You'll get 99% the same features and function as the $1k one, and if you like it then you can get a second one and still be under $1k!

This and a stick vac to spot clean is what I have

Roborock Q5 and elbow grease.

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Roborock. I have a q5 and an S8 Max v ultra. Both awesome machines.

I like my roborock q5 I bought it 2 years ago for our main floor. I would take it upstairs and let it do up there also weekly. I liked it so much that I bought a qrevo(has a mop) and moved the q5 down to the basement. My basement floor is cleaned every night now. I could not be happier.

I had a roborock Q5 in my apartment. Myself and my cat. Loved it, it was fantastic. Easy to use, easy to set up custom cleans if I made a mess, and easy to set up no go zones with the app on my phone. Never had any issues with it. I have a shark now in my house, and will absolutely be replacing it with the one I used to have because I hate my shark.

I had a Samsung Jetbot that broke after a year and a half, and would have cost me $150 to fix. I went back and forth on fixing it, but ultimately realized that I could buy a brand new robot for that price. The Roborock Q5 happened to be on sale for exactly that price, so I ended up buying it, and have been using it obsessively to clean up the buildup from the past several months. I didn’t realize how much dust and hair had accumulated on my carpets in that time (I live in an apartment, and don’t own another vacuum), and looking at what a difference it’s made to have a freshly-vacuumed carpet has just given me so much tranquility. I have a cat, but really the buildup had come from me, because I have long hair that tends to shed. There was literally a mouse-sized amount of hair tangled up in the side brush after running the vacuum four times, with the main rollers covered in hair. The advice that was given to me by folks in this subreddit is to make sure you get a robot with Lidar. Lidar is the mapping technology that actually allows the robovac to clean every inch of the floor. The robovacs without Lidar just kind of bounce around, and aren’t nearly as effective at cleaning because they don’t keep track of where they’ve been. They go in zig-zag patterns, and Lidar robots go back and forth. It’s more expensive, but to me the difference is worth it. I’ll also say that what convinced me to get a robovac in the first place is that someone told me it forces them to keep their floors clean. You can’t have your floors cluttered because it will block the robot and stop it from doing its job, or even get it tangled up. So that’s just one more reason to get one.

I have 2 Roborock q5’s - not happy with them. Frequently get stuck on kids toys or the bottom of chairs (bottom rail is on ground at height 0.5”-1”). And the maps keep getting distorted/shifted with time.

What are some of the missing features? I have a Q5 and I'm curious what I'm missing out on

Ya it’s crazy. Yesterday I vacuumed and mopped with the Dyson and a few hours later the cats and dogs had hair everywhere. It’s nice waking up and coming home to a fully vacuumed and mopped house. These newer robots are so much better than the roombas my parents had 20 odd years ago.

Funny I just bought a roborock q5 and its amazing. Did not expect it Actually vacuums Mapped the whole apartment in detail Cleaned carpet pretty well Dead simple Has a mop (to test out this weekend)

Well I dont want the best mop, I wanted a simple robo vacuum....mop is bonus

Stay away from these no-name brands. Stick with Roborock, Dreame, Eufy, Irobot, and Shark. Roborock Q5 is a great deal at the moment. The no-name brands are almost always worse in functionality, much harder to get spare brushes and filters for, impossible to get other parts for etc.

It'll help keep up, but no robot is going to really handle that much hair without daily or twice daily running. And you'll be emptying it a lot. The q5 is still a good performer from what I've heard and will help.

We have a roborock q5 I believe and I like it. When talking with a friend about them, her complaint was that it took too long and in the amount of time it took for the robot to vacuum one room, she could have done the whole downstairs. And while that is true, if that’s the complaint then she’s not doing it right. I pick up all the stuff off of the floor and run the vacuum while I do other things like fold and put away laundry, the dishes, organize rooms where the vacuum isn’t running. I find it helps keep the amount of cat hair and litter everywhere down and I like that it keeps crumbs at a minimum. Does it replace actually vacuuming? Most people say no. And if you are actually vacuuming your home currently every few days, then it’s not going to do as good of a job. But I personally was only vacuuming once every couple of weeks (I know, gross) so it’s made a big improvement in our home for sure.

>A deep clean should be done before using and they should be vacuuming every day or so and mopping every few days. A tiny robot cannot do what a large upright or stick vac can do. This is true, but I am always amazed how much my Roborock q5 can vacuum up

Just the Roborock Q5, nothing more to it's name

Just vacuum, the Q5 pro does both though I believe

Maybe try a roborock q5? I have an old model roborock e4 or something like that has been going for years and does a good job for my corgi.

Even on the mid-range Q5, I never noticed any corner spots with crumbs or dust that it missed. The suction seems plenty strong, you can just run it on turbo when not home. The more challenging spots are behind the couch/TV where there are wires on the floor, or legs it can't fit between. I'm okay with that I just vacuum those manually infrequently.

I just got the Roborock Q5 and it is the second best thing I've ever bought for my house! Litter robot was the first lol. It saves soooo much time and soreness and my floors are clean even when I'm exhausted! No complaints so far, it mops and vacuums and hasn't had any issues yet. We have 2 dogs and a long haired cat, and one of the dogs is a Newfoundland with an insane amount of fur!

I went with the Roborock Q5 for our upstairs, it’s all carpet(except for the bathrooms). Was also looking at the eufy x8, which is only $200 right now

Thanks! That’s more than one vote for the roborock Q5

Thanks so much! I’m comparing the Q5 models right now! What is SES?

That’s what I decided on! Thanks!

That exact Roborock is my first robot vacuum. We have two Pyrenees/Lab mix (one white, one black), and two cats. I generally schedule rooms individually after my docking station started to clog with debris and hair. The Q5 Is amazing, but it'll pickup clothes and socks if they are on the ground. Just have to make sure things are off the floor before the vacuum starts it's schedule and you're golden. I've been running the cheap Amazon special bags and filters and haven't had any issues yet.

I have a q5 roborock without the self emptying dock because I think that’s a waste of money. I’m going to buy another one for my second level. It was only 150 bucks on Amazon and it has been a game changer for pet hair. I have mostly hardwood floors, a few rooms with carpet and some rugs, cleaned them all with no problems. Highly recommend

I bought a Roborock q5 for $140 and it has been fantastic. I must be getting old because I’ve never been this excited about a vacuum ever. The app is easy to use. The LiDAR mapping worked great, it hasn’t gotten stuck on anything. It has different levels of suction, and it changes depending on the floor type. Higher levels are louder, but it’s still not that loud. We have some pets who shed a lot and it works wonders. It does have a mop attachment but you don’t have to put it on. Mine runs once a day and cleans three rooms with hardwood floor and two rooms with carpet, and then I bring it downstairs and it does four more hardwood floor rooms. I like it so much I’m going to get another one so I don’t have to carry it downstairs. But this thing has been a game changer in a house with shedding pets.

Mine has not. When I bring it down and tell it to clean, it does a little dance to figure out where it is and then goes to work. It made a new map and it’s also saved in the app. I’ll also mention is pretty easy to clean. I did notice hair being spun around the end of the rollers but they come apart and cleaning them was a breeze. Like you can do it in less than ten seconds. I did have to take the rollers out also because a Christmas ornament my cats knocked down got stuck behind the rollers. But it still finished its cleaning cycle and went back to its dock. I only noticed because it sounded different.

I wholeheartedly agree. I’ve done extensive research and reviewed numerous sources, and I’m thoroughly impressed with my Roborock Q5. There haven’t been any complaints, and the robot is incredibly easy to disassemble, repair, and clean.

I've had the Q5 and Q8 maxand I will say the Q8 is markedly better. The "mop" on it is not really mopping, it's more like a light wipe-down with a damp rag, which is good enough for me. I don't want to deal with the added complexity and potential leakage with a true mopping setup. The app is the best I've seen so far. The Roborocks in my experience don't get stuck as much either. The navigation is more intelligent.

Agree!!! We have an older roborock Q5 and it is still a powerhouse!!! Won’t be without one ever again

Roborock q5, I believe they stopped selling the q5+ which self empties but it’s a great robot that’s cheap too

Yes it’s a great vacuum. But be aware, you’ll want to upgrade in the future. Question is if you’re okay with that.

Are you joking? It’s Roborock’s cheapest, least featured product. It’s missing everything. I have 2, I’m not knocking it, but there *obviously* tons of features it’s missing that OP might want.

Google banned in your country or something? It’s literally the most basic model.

This. every manufacturer is making a ton of money on mopping models so not really any reason for them to focus on vacuum only models. If I was too buy something right now and focus was NOT on active mopping I would choose the Roborock Q5 series. You'll still get the gravity mop system but no need to use it. Just be aware that in regards to software development and so on you'll probably be left behind at some point.

The Q8 already has a bit more "mop" stuff, as the water tank is internal and with the dust bin. And you can control the amount of water dispensed. The Q5 is the least "moppy" one, as the water tank gets attached to the bottom, along with the mop and there's no active water strength control.

I started with a dumb robot and spent a lot of time 'robot proofing' the house so it wouldn't get stuck on cords, or trying to go under sofas and dressers. Adding bumpers under couch edges, raising up furniture with foam pads so it could go under, etc. and it still got stuck somewhere random 20% of the runs. the lidar and mapping go / no go zones completely changes the ability to complete the job. That is easier than dealing with a dumb robot. My roborock S7 rarely gets stuck. A roborock Q5 is $140! You could buy a new one if it broke after warranty and it'd still be cheap.

I got the q5 on a nice Amazon sale. I never use the mop function, only vacuum. So far it’s been great, and we have two dogs and a cat. We get the house cleaned once a week and I’ve been running the robot once a day, or couple days to keep up with it. So happy on this ourchase

I have a Roborock self emptying one now and mostly got that because it could vacuum and mop. Before I had a neato bot vac and dir just vacuuming the neato is far superior. That did a way better job of throughly heavy duty vacuuming, when I had that vacuum I had 3 German shepherds and a black lab so I definitely needed a ton of suction and power that didn’t clog, get tangled etc. but now I live in the north and with snow and ice and mud I needed mopping too. I also now only have one German shepherd, my other dogs don’t shed as much. But I also have a pot belly pig that always brings in mud. So the Roborock works great for that but for straight vacuum and suction power the neato is better.

We have two shedding dogs and we love our Roborocks. The first one, while it was fantastic filled kinda quickly (not their fault, our dogs shed A LOT) so it was a minor inconvenience to empty it halfway through it's cleaning 2700sqft. My brother became disabled so I gave him that one for his apartment. He loves it and his helper can empty it and help him with harder care items so it saves him money (he was initially being charged an hour every day for vacuuming, now he's not). The second one I got was self emptying so it can continue all by itself and I really appreciate it. I only have to empty the main basin once a week and that's it. Super convenient and does a fantastic job cleaning. I used to vacuum at least twice a day to stay on top of the hair. Now I do a "deep" vacuum once a week- baseboards, under carpets, etc. Roborock gave me hours of my life back and that's not an exaggeration.

Get a self emptying Roborock one. Roombas are crap that are basically all about their name now. You will have to clean the fur out of some spots on it at times, but if you run it every day it will keep most of it out of the way.

Depends on your flooring and needs If carpets - Roborock - best vacuuming particularly if you pair it with an auto empty dock (most newer models) If hardwood and no pets (Read not an inordinate amount of vacuuming) - Eufy S1 Pro - Best mopping hands down along with pretty good vacuuming

Yes! Don’t get the Curv plus it’s cheaply built and ugly. The S8 MaxV has premium materials. They are all plastic but the Curv and Q series feel flimsy.

You might not be happy with the build quality of the lower end series like the Q. Stick with Premium. I would get the S series or Saros. The Q series feels very cheap compared to the S plus it can handle the hair NP. It’s a more attractive unit too unless you like a shiny egg that looks like it came out of an 80s movie. lol

The comment about robot vacuums only being for small places is probably based on the old random pattern robots. Most robots now map and do well in large houses. It sounds like most mapping robots would work for you, since you don't want mopping, have hardfloors, and no pets. So anything with lidar (prefered) or vslam navigation. Obstacle avoidance might be a useful feature for cords, shoes, toys etc. left on the ground. It might be worth looking into a Eufy L60, iRobot Roomba j series, Roborock Q series, or shark. I'm biased because I have three robot vacs (Roborock S6, Ecovacs x1 omni, and iRobot Roomba j5+ combo) and my roomba j5+ is the only one that is reliable and working at the moment