Roborock - Q5+

My roborock is 3 now and i love it. I got the q5+ on a prime deal. That one does not mop and self empties. It's one of the cheaper ones. I did think it was dying but i figured out the replacement spinny side brush was a little too long and it kept tripping over itself. I cut a half inch of each of 5 rubber arms and it's great again.

Carpet? Get the highest suction you can, with dual rubber rollers. Normal brush rollers will just get wrapped with fur, but the rubber ones never have that issue. My Roborock q5+ does a great job.

Unless you pay $1000 for a really good model even the Roborock Q5 is not gonna be that great at toy detection. I have 3 cats and 2 dogs and while I love my Roborock I cannot run it without picking up things left on the floor. You’ll have to get used to picking stuff up no matter what. Roborock I also way better tech than roomba and cheaper! Mine was a Q5+ with self emptying station and cut down the pet hair exponentially. And I have 3 cats and 2 dogs.

Roborock Q5+ with self emptying doc. Couldn't live without it.

Roborock Q5+ if you want pure vacuum power. It is great for pet hair, smart nav, no mop nonsense. If you want mop too, Q Revo or Dreame L20 Ultra, but vacuum takes a slight hit.

Roomba 105 said “docking? never heard of her.” If nav + no-go zones matter, go Roborock Q5 for laser brain, pet-hair beast. Shark Matrix is better than old Shark, but still a bit lost sometimes. Just pick the smart one.

I have a Roborock Q5+, which is self-emptying. I think it was about $350 on sale. I love it! It was probably my best purchase of last year. I run it every single day. Does it take care of all of my dog's hair? No, I still need to vacuum once a week or so. But is it way better than nothing? Yes. It probably does better with short hair than long (luckily my dog is short-haired). What it really has trouble with is my own shoulder-length hair, which just gets wrapped around the brush. So I can see not liking it as much if you have an Afghan hound or some other breed with luscious, flowing locks.

I can't speak to the Roomba, but I have the Roborock Q5+ and love it. I have about a 50/50 split of hard floor and carpet and it works well on both. It transitions from one surface type to another with no problem either. If you run the vacuum enough even pet hair shouldn't be a problem. I'd suggest doing a manual first sweep/vacuum to get a good chunk swept up first. Then run the robot vacuum frequently.

Yes! My entire downstairs is hardwood and tile. Vacuuming and mopping works well on both. I have it do two passes, so it makes a checkered pattern. So even if it misses something the first time, it'll usually pick it up the second pass. I have two Roborocks, a Slim and a Q5+.

I like my roborock q5+

Whirlpool’s solid and reliable, especially for dryers. Samsung/LG are flashy but can be hit or miss and LG is usually better of the two. For robot vacs, check out Roborock Q5+ or S7+..it is great with hair, better than Ecovacs IMO. Stick to budget-friendly, easy-to-move stuff since it’s a rental.

Roborock Q5 all day!! great nav, eats pet hair, real no-go zones. Shark’s still kinda dumb. Privacy? They all spying.

Very happy with my Roborock Q5+. It integrates well with HA.

Roborock q5+ with dock. Split the room into two separate rooms and schedule the cleanings separately. This means it goes back and cleans out the bin before starting the next one. Also run it every day these are machines designed to run each day. Have a husky that sheds so much....this one has worked. We got the q5+ because it doesn't have mopping, something we didn't need. Instead it has a slightly expanded dust bin.

Hey I made a comment earlier and wanted to expand on it a bit more. We've bought two refurbished roborock vacuums and both have been great (basic Q5+ since we have carpet on two floors). Ebay is currently having a sale on refurbished roborocks Roborock Q Revo - $343.99 with coupon code MEMORIALDEALS (ends may 26th) - https://www.ebay.com/itm/404828308363 Roborock Q7 Max+ - $247.99 with coupon code MEMORIALDEALS (end may 26th) - https://www.ebay.com/itm/404335248662 If you can swing the Q Revo, it would be best, otherwise get the Q7 Max+ Both can be returned for a full refund within 30 days, and both come with a two year warranty otherwise. Seriously no reason not to buy a refubished IMO. If you get a bad one return it and order another during the next sale.

Sick and tired of the Q5+ sucking up my toddlers socks, I don't want to spent $1400+ on a vacuum with a fucking mop because 90% of the 2nd floor is carpet. Can you please go back to the basics and make a kick ass robot with a huge dust bin (with a auto empty dock) and NO DAMN MOP with the best object detection available? While your at it fix your model names! /rant

I have a roborock q5+ and love it. I have 2 big, double coated dogs and it gets overwhelming. Every night before bed I tidy up my main level and run it and it empties itself (warning that part is loud). Once a week I have to maintain it which just means taking out the filter and giving it a good whack (I don't even wash it lol) and wiping it down. Couldn't be easier.

I have a gp\newfie and two golden\newfies. I have a roborock q5+ and a q revo both on a good sale on amazon. I have been happy with both. If I forget to run it one day, it will leave little hair balls but they are easy to pick up haha. Still doesn’t get deep enough though on the carpets. Had to get a Miele for that. Never had problems with the vacuum or the app had them for about two or three years now. Replacement parts are easy to get. The Q5+ was 300 and the Revo was 650. If you have a high pile carpet it does okay but low it’s good at.

The simplest advice I can give you is to go to the website [https://vacuumwars.com/vacuum-wars-best-robot-vacuums/](https://vacuumwars.com/vacuum-wars-best-robot-vacuums/) go down the list from #1 rated down, make a small selection of them that meet your price criteria, confirm they are well rated in the specific qualities you require and then get the top rated one. There are several in the top ten \~$1,000 and I suspect any of them will work for you. I watched a bit of his content before I got my Roborock Q5+ a while ago which I do like but it is older now and has no mopping. He doesn't do sponsored content and seems reliable and objective about his reviews. I think the recommendations you get here will be good but from a random group of people who haven't tried that many different robot vacuums. Congratulations on the baby and I hope your search/purchase makes things easier!

Yes, robo vacuum is amazing and even my bf who hated the idea of robo vacuum caved in quickly after getting two ragdolls. However, I don't think you'll have much luck under 200$. Cheaper vacuums are usually not made to be able to handle pet hair very well. You want a vacuum with a double roller? not sure how it's called. It's better for pet hair because it doesn't get covered in the hair and stuck like the normal sucking system. Mine is Roborock Q5+, it's out of your price range but just as a reference what to look for in a robo vacuum.

I've had mine for longer. Even got a Q5+ secondhand without issues. They're the only ones that can navigate my house without getting stuck unless they eat a cable by accident. I'd get replacement parts ASAP as it's best to buy them from aliexpress.

I love my Roborock Q5+ and I want to get one for my parents. I love how easy they are to maintain and how readily accessible replacement parts are when it comes to it. Filters and bags can be emptied, washed, and reused. (I have a short haired dog that sheds and my allergies have improved a lot since getting the Roborock)

I just bought a Roborock Q5+ refurbished from eBay for $275. It's my first robovac, so I don't have anything to compare it to, but I set it up today and it seems to be very good, so far. It arrived looking brand new.

For hair, I might consider something else. I don't have dogs, but I do have that same robot, and it does get a bit tangled with long human hair. It would still be fine if you clean it more often and cut the hairs out as they tangle. The price seems fair if it's in good condition. The overall robot itself is okay. Mine tends to get lost pretty easy and confused by obstacles, but if your use case is simple it would be fine. If you ask the seller to go into the app and click on the robot, then the ... menu, it should show its history. You can then ask for the "clean time and area accumulated" to get a sense of how much use it has seen. Mine has 175 hours and 75K square feet, for example, and is in pretty new seeming condition.

Stay away from these no-name brands. Stick with Roborock, Dreame, Eufy, Irobot, and Shark. Roborock Q5 is a great deal at the moment. The no-name brands are almost always worse in functionality, much harder to get spare brushes and filters for, impossible to get other parts for etc.

It'll help keep up, but no robot is going to really handle that much hair without daily or twice daily running. And you'll be emptying it a lot. The q5 is still a good performer from what I've heard and will help.

For that budget, vacuum only. And honestly even they might not handle the shaggy rug. Most robots can't. If you're okay with vacuuming the rug by hand, and basically creating a no-go zone around it in the robot app to stop them getting stuck, a roborock q series vacuum-only model might be decent.

Unfortunately it's all in the market pressures, certain sets of requirements or categories of robots have been totally eliminated. For example it's really hard to find much choice of robot mops, everybody has switched to making combination all-in-one robots which are much more expensive. It can be really frustrating. What I will say, avoid models with AI obstacle avoidance camera systems mounted on the front bumper. This should help limit privacy concerns. A lidar sensor can give a basic layout of your house and furniture placement but it can't really see details, it's basically a 2-D image. Edit: obviously all images are 2-D lol. What I meant is, it's only seeing your house through a really thin laser beam shining out from the top "turret". This means it can see shapes on that line of sight and nothing else, basically it doesn't steer that laser up or down. It can't see details of people, pets, objects not at floor level etc. It'll see four furniture legs, with no way to tell if it's a sofa or a dining table. Obviously having a literal camera is a totally different story there. And luckily a lot of the more basic options lack cameras (for now anyway). Models like the eufy L60 or Roborock Q5 might be ones to look at.

Roborock Q5 max+ is a carpet beast, the duorollers will not tangle but they will accumulate hair at the roller’s ends and you’ll have to remove the hair wraps periodically. I’ve been using Costco’s Dreame GoVac 400 (equivalent to other models) on my mostly carpeted floor and the Tricut brush is amazing with hair, none on the ends anymore and zero tangles, plus it mops my bathrooms which is a plus.

Pay attention that this is an older model of the Q5 max+, it doesn’t have the duoroller. You absolutely need at least the duorollers for dog hair. Attached a picture of mine (with the duoroller) for reference. Ask the seller to send u a picture of the bottom before u commit. If it’s the single roller, don’t bother or negotiate the price down. https://preview.redd.it/s561ju9xwmmf1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd1f16f8d75206bbea36bfca231221477e916591

Yes that’s what I thought. This roller is an old one and you’ll find urself having to clean hair off of it after each run. Not worth the money imo.

I have the Q5 max+ for my mostly carpeted upper floor and its fantastic. Navigation is seamless, very fast and overlaps the lines, great suction, duo rollers never tangle, and overall reliable. Zero object avoidance but yes you can create no go zones. Way superior than the L60.

It depends on your house’s set-up, none of the robots got it all. I have Eufy, Roborock, and Dreame: - Eufy S1 pro has been the most reliable mopping robot for my mostly hardwood floor. Excellent mopping performance, excellent object avoidance, and very reliable (does its job every night with zero issues). People underestimate the advantage of the ozone sterilizer in the station, never had a bad smell. Older model so goes on discount often, but superior to newer models is what I heard. - Roborock q5 max+ is a carpet beast, I use it for my upper floor that is mostly carpeted. Excellent suction at a low price point, never has hair wraps, very reliable. Non existent object avoidance (you will have to clean up before it cleans) and no mopping capability - Dreame L40, lots of tech at a lower price point when it’s on a <$500 deal. Excellent object avoidance and good coverage. Its carpet performance is subpar and its mopping performance is no match for the S1 pro. It’s too smart for its own good and navigation + efficiency suffer as a result. Dirty water tank smells like death all the time. This is my newest addition and I’ll be returning it possible for a L50 during the next black friday etc.. With all of those robots, if you maintain them they’ll last. None are set it and forget it for long periods. Bottom line in my opinion: Eufy for reliability and mopping performance, Roborock for reiability and carpet/suction performance, Dreame for object avoidance

TLDR: this sounds like a giant pain and very inconvenient, but you could do it. Most brands on technically support 1 home. But roborocks support up to 4 floors, I think so you could have each house be a different floor. Honestly, before committing to driving your vacuum all around try just having one to share between your floors. These things work best as “set it and forget it”. I ended up getting a refurb Q5 for my basement because over time it was less hassle than remembering to move my Q Revo from the first floor to the basement to run it. Additionally, you will vacuum more if you just set a schedule and have it run automatically.

Currently $299 on Amazon

Got mine today. It's pretty cool. It's very intuitive and simple to set up. I let it map my ground floor (probably took 10 minutes). I let it do a full run. However, I didn't let it charge all the way up. (It was around 50% charged). At 20%,it returned to the dock. I'm awaiting for it to get up to a decent level to finish the job. I really enjoy it!

No. The Q5 Pro+ has a mop. The Q5 Max+ is vaccum only. Just got the Q5 Max+from Amazon for $299. I really enjoy it. I have two dogs so there was always hair before. The app and the mapping are pretty good. At this price point, I think it's a good value for what it does.

Yeah, I’m slowly realizing that even at higher prices, there are still trade-offs for top models. The Roborock Q5 Max+ seems like only a minor upgrade, the Pa vacuum power is higher, but actual performance often depends on the brush and internal airflow of the robot anyway. I have a lot of 90° corners, so a moveable side brush seems like a worthwhile upgrade. I definitely want a full station with separate dirty and fresh water tanks, as well as warm water cleaning, otherwise it won’t be able to remove oily residues from the mops. I also want a good anti-hair-tangle feature and strong performance on carpets. My big carpet is deep black, and I’ve heard that some robots have issues with that? With those requirements, I keep coming back to the Roborock Q Revo Master as the cheapest option. I looked at the Eufy Omni C20 and on paper it doesn’t look bad and is only 400€, but in tests it failed at vacuuming on carpet and ended up with a lot of grime in the main brush after mopping. Eufy doesn’t seem very popular in Germany; I haven’t seen too many reviews. I did watch some videos from Vacuum Wars and Just A Dad.

Update! Used my Roborock q5 max+ for the first time today and I love it!! My dogs didn’t try to kill it either. SO HAPPY! Thanks yall.

Roborock q5 max+ has been great on wood floors (not sure about carpet), and it self-empties

I got a J7 and a robo rock q5+ max or whatever it’s called. The roomba was $700 the Roborock was half or less. I think the Roborock is better

I have hardwood and the same model vacuum and do see little bits it left occasionally, but it does roughly as well as my prior eufy. Maybe you didn’t clean the filter often enough? (every 2 weeks is recommended). If you don’t clean that thing airflow can get restricted fast. Anyway since you ran into dog poop, the only models I remember from my research being good at avoiding that were roombas.

If you can save a little more get a Roborock. We just got a Q5 max+ for $379 and it maps your house with lidar and mops too. It’s been the best thing for us because our dog hair is always crazy but this keeps it in check real well. If you don’t care about the mop feature you can get it without for $319 on their website.

I just picked up a Roborock Q5 Max+ on sale the other week. Not really worried, it only has lidar so no cameras, and lives on an isolated IoT network anyways.

I just bought the same one and it seems to work well. The actual mopping models were way out of my price range, and the Q5 Max+ had a 45% off sale.

I had just received mine after having just the basic Q5 and notice a tremendous difference in the experience. Loving it so far!

Quieter than my other vacuums... quieter than the leaf blower outside... but emptying the bin is very loud and disruptive. Fortunately you can turn auto empty off and just run it when you're not watching tv / in the room. 

Like 10 sec? Honestly i don't notice it so much anymore, i think that part is about as loud as a normal vacuum is during operation.  I had a piece of paper clog the vent the other week and that sound was horrible. But the app caught the problem and told me how to fix it which was nice. Easy solution. 

The Q5 max+ is on sale for $299, down from 359 I think. I ordered it this week and am so excited!

I’d recommend the Roborock Q5 Max+ if you want a good carpet robot vacuum. It’s auto empty dock is easy to carry around too If you want a good combo, they’re mainly all in ones and the base stations are 12-13kg minimum :(

You can simply remove the mop for high end models. Double rollers will have fur and hair tangled on the sides of the brush which will need to be maintained once in a while. Some single roller brushes are now tangle free (Dreame’s TriCut brush or narwal’s conical brush). The [roborock Q5 Max+](https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-robot-vacuum/#the-competition) seems best suited for your case.

Xiaomi models made by dreame would be good. I had the Xiaomi S10+ as a housewarming gift and it worked great. You can use it with the dreame TriCut brush so fur will no longer get tangled with the brush. It’s cheap to get the real one on AliExpress. The price varies a lot by region though. It’s not very good at avoiding cables but good at mopping up my dog’s drool (you have to clean the mops afterward and dampen it before any mopping run). You could also consider the S20+ if you’d like it to be able to lift its mops. Both aren’t the best at obstacle avoidance as they are dreame models with some features castrated like a RGB camera for AI computer vision. It worked well at avoiding my dog’s decently big toys (4cm tall on the ground). If you want better obstacle avoidance you can look to the original dreame models like the Dreame L10s Pro Gen 2 Robot Vacuum (LDS only and 299). If you want an auto empty dock (recommended for shedding friends), you could look to Roborock’s Q5 Max+ or the Dreame L10s Plus. https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-robot-vacuum/

Roborock Q5 Max+ or the Q8 Max+ if you’d like better obstacle avoidance.

Double rubber rollers generally mean there will be less long hair tangles but there will be easily removable hair tangles on the sides of the brush. I remember reviewers found that the roomba sucked at autoemptying, which put me off from recommending the roomba. > Under the right circumstances, the i4 is a great, relatively inexpensive cleaner. But the first i4 EVO unit we tried in this testing cycle fell short in its app functionality, especially when compared to the less expensive Roborock Q5 Max+, which maps significantly faster and whose app offers more features. Both the i4 EVO and i4+ EVO initially struggled to connect to Wi-Fi, with the app crashing occasionally, and it took them more than three times as long to map than the Roborock Q5. Furthermore, the i4 repeatedly failed to save the map it had created. > Company representatives told us that they were not aware this was a common problem. But our analysis of Amazon reviews using FindOurView indicated that up to a third of reviewers complained of mapping issues, including the amount of time it takes to map, unsaved maps, and inaccurate mapping. > The i4+ EVO’s self-emptying dock also failed to remove all the debris it had collected in its bin, leaving behind Cheerios and rice. > Roomba j9+: The j9+ cleaned well, but like the i4+ EVO, its self-emptying dock didn’t consistently remove all the debris from the bot’s bin. Our contact at iRobot attributed this to the Cheerios in our tests, but we noticed similar issues with other, smaller debris, such as rice. The j9+ also frequently bumped into furniture and pushed over a large cup, one of the obstacles we had put in its path. https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-robot-vacuum/

You can buy officially refurbished models for a fraction of the official retail price but with the same warranty. LiDAR navigation and obstacle avoidance should be standard for models under 500 USD. You can consider a vacuuming only model with a sonic mop that you can remove like the Roborock Q5 Max+.

A lot of robots have really good anti-tangle solutions now. If you want a vacuum only robot, the Dyson VisNav will be the best vacuum but a bad robot. The Roborock Q5 Max+ or the Q8 Max+ is recommended as it strikes a good spot between fur pickup and good navigation. For combo robots, the cheapest one that deals with fur, pet poop, rugs, and mops well is the dreame L40 Ultra at 399 USD.

Maybe a refurbished roomba for carpets but navigation is an option. A roborock would be better at navigation. The Q5 Pro with no autoempty station would be better at not disturbing people if it will autoempty during working hours but the Q8 Max+ or the Q5 Max+ can be considered if you’d like one with an autoempty station.

It’s hard to find a combo robot under 1000 AUD that also mops well. Since your home is mostly carpeted, I’d stick with the Roborock Q5 Max+.

If you want a vacuum only model: RoborockQ5 Max+ If you want live obstacle avoidance so it won’t bump into your pet roaming around (no camera): Roborock Q8 Max+

I’d recommend the Roborock Q5 Max+ (329 USD) then. There’s no mopping but it’s pretty solid on wood floors.

What’s your purchasing region (usually country)? this will dictate your available choices. If in the EU, UK, and Australia, I’d go for the L40S Ultra (not the L40 Ultra) as the brushes have been improved to pick up pet hair on carpet. This is a somewhat cost effective combo model. For a vacuum only robot, the roborock Q5 Pro+ or Max+ are popular choices. The Q8 Max+ and Pro+ are also popular and will do better with obstacles.

The roborock Q5 Max+/Pro+ or the Q8 Max+/Pro+ will be the best vacuum only robot if you just want to deal with fur and litter :)

I’d recommend robots with an autoempty station so most of the maintenance will be replacing the dustbag, tapping the dust out of the filter, and cleaning the robot once in a while. A lot of vacuum only robots with an autoempty base station will be fit in this budget! A popular choice is the Roborock Q5 Max+ or the Roborock Q8 Max+. Combo models will need more care ( you’d also have to refill the clean water tank, emptying the dirty water tank, cleaning the water tanks, and the mop pad cleaning tray). Some have completely removable mop pad cleaning trays which make it more physically accessible to clean. Some other ones don’t. For combo models, the recent sales and discounts have made the Dreame L40 Ultra (438.99*-599) or the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra (599) will be the best priced model given all the self cleaning features it has. I believe both models have a pet mode where it purposely tries to be quieter when it sees pets (dogs and cats alike). It’s cheapest to find the dreame L40 Ultra with the anti-tangle TriCut brush at the dreame physical store which accepts orders placed over phone or email. I recommend these models mainly because the mop pad cleaning tray has wipers that will redirect dirt to the drainage area, reducing the need to clean the area. Unfortunately, the mop pad cleaning tray isn’t completely removable (the base in contact with the water is not removable). Here’s a video on how the mop pad cleaning tray is cleaned. https://youtu.be/kSoxaozdtkU The roborock qrevo models have a completely removable mop tray which makes it easier to clean compared to the Dreame or roborock models. However, I haven’t found a roborock qrevo model at a price as low as the Dreame and MOVA models. The Qrevo QV 35A ($599.99) does have an anti-tangle side brush but no mop pad cleaning tray self cleaning and the lack of an RGB camera means the price isn’t as worth as the other models :( Here’s a video of how maintenance will look for the QRevo models: https://youtu.be/f0NzG5ANyEc Maintenance tips and tricks: For maintenance, please tap the dust out of the filter once every few cleaning tasks or whatever is most convenient for you guys. Mud will build up in the brush compartment of combo models if you set your robot to vacuum and mop at the same time, making cleaning the brush area more often. so I recommend asking it to vacuum first then mop so the need to clean the brush compartment will be less often. Combo robots require the base station’s mop pad cleaning tray to be cleaned once every two weeks or so (I suggest leaving it alone and finding the ideal frequency for you). In my use, squeegee based self-cleaning mop pad cleaning trays will mean fur catches on the wipers and the nubs which happens with most friction based cleaning methods. I use a pet safe robot mop compatible detergent in the clean water tank at a ratio of 1:100. Bissell’s spinwave compatible multisurface cleaner is my favorite. I also use a silver ion module in the clean water tank to prevent gross stuff from building up in it. I use a deodorization and disinfectant module in my dirty water tank to help with the smell (it should be emptied as soon as the robot finishes cleaning and cleaning its mops). You’ll have to scrub down this dirty water tank every once in a while too. I run my combo robot twice a day which means I have to refill and empty my tanks once every two days or so. No smell or anything.

You don’t need a hair cutter to remove hair from the roller brush. The roborock q5 max+ or the Q8 max+ are popular vacuum only options. All rubber dual brushes help with fur pickup and are okay at resisting tangles but will have tangled fur and hair on the sides which are easily removable. For combo robots: It seems like you’re in the US so I’d recommend the Dreame L40 Ultra at 399 with the antitangle TriCut brush if purchased from Dreame’s physical store which ships for free nationwide https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/AgXP4k48pP

The cheapest option would be buying something like the roborock Q5 Max+, Q8 Max+ as dual rubber brushes resist tangles rather well. There’s also the option of buying robots that can use dreame’s anti-tangle brush which also works well. Much more expensive options will be using conical antitangling brushes where airflow will untangle the brush like Dreame’s dual conical brushes, Narwal’s conical antitangle brush, Roborock’s DuoDivide, and Matic’s main brush. And there’s also robots like Dyson’s VisNav 360 and the UBPET robot which use a much bigger brush roller, about as big as a regular cordless vacuum’s, and will compress fur in the dustbin with cyclonic filtration. As for dustbin clogging, running the robot more often like twice a day works for smaller homes or setting the robot to autoempty more frequently are viable solutions that aren’t really robot dependent. Some robots also boast fur compression that works when it vacuums like Dyson’s robots with cyclonic filtration, Dreame’s fur compressing dustbin that uses airflow to compress fur by bringing the vacuum to the maximum power, and narwal’s fur compression on their bagged robots. These work to varying degrees of success.

Bigger dustbin + good use of dustbin when it comes to fur (no empty space should be in the dustbin when fur clogs it) + frequent autoemptying = better for dealing with hair and fur. For a vacuum only model, the roborock Q5 Max+ and the Q8 Max+ have a sizeable dustbin and uses the dustbin space well and has an autoempty station. The dual rollers help with fur pickup. In the US Dreame’s L/X50 Ultra fulfills these requirements as a combo model. So does the MOVA V50 Ultra for Canadian customers. The QRevo series has the same issue with some dreame models where the dustbin will be clogged with fur but there’ll be a lot of empty space on the sides. It’ll be good for picking up fur on carpets with its dual brushes but I think the eufy X8 should be better for dealing with finer dust.

For vacuum only: you could consider the Eufy L60 SES or the Roborock Q5 Max+ or Q8 Max+. Combo: For a model that is good at vacuuming and mopping overall: the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra (659 USD) which is a dreame L40 ultra without the mop removal feature (MOVA is a dreame subbrand). https://youtu.be/QjUASR3DdIE?si=69TwSdx3XKBtYF6S

For vacuuming only: Roborock Q8 Max+ or the Q5 Max+ For combos: Tricut brush (works great with a long-haired corgi and long-haired people in my home) compatible: most dreame models in the 10 series and newer Roborock's QRevo Curv and Edge can also be considered if dog "gifts" aren't a concern since they do well with dog fur. The upcoming Roborock Saros 10R can be considered if you'd like it to remove its mops when vacuuming the carpet. If dog "gifts" are a concern: MOVA's P10 Pro Ultra is currently the best bang-for-buck combo model at 659 USD. If you want a mop removal feature (I've seen many complaints about the feature not working as intended on the L40 Ultra), there are Dreame L40 Ultra, X40 Ultra, and X50 Ultra.

If I were you, I’d spend a bit more for a combo and look for a reliable and good vacuum only model for the top carpet only floor which is generally cheaper than a combo model. I’d also consider the dreame L40S Pro Ultra (£799) is going to be better for heavy fur shedders since it has the onboard fur compression feature which works when it’s vacuuming to best utilize the dustbin’s space that has a volume of 395mL. The dual brushes mean it’s better for fur pickup on carpets but won’t be as good for just vacuuming carpets compared to vacuum only models . The E25 will be better for raw mopping performance which is better suited for homes with more hard floors than carpet. The E25 will also be a good option for the bottom floor. I’d get something like a cheap second hand roomba or a roborock Q5 or Q8 with or without an autoempty station for the upper floor.

Depends on your purchasing region. I’d recommend one with autoemptying and for it to have an all in one base station if you want it to mop so it can clean twice a day for you. My robot runs twice a day and at 20,000sqm cleaned, it still works great. Vacuum only ones: Roborock Q5 Max+ or the Q8 Max+ (I don’t know much about the other new roborock models so I’ll wait for other users to report their experience to consider recommending them) Combo ones Xiaomi is a popular cost effective brand. I’d recommend the X10+, X20 Pro and the X20 Max. This is if you want it to vacuum and then mop (which I use since my corgi drools a lot). The TriCut brush compatibility also means it’ll deal with corgi fur well. Xiaomi is not available in the NA market. Dreame’s L40 Ultra and MOVA’s P10 Pro Ultra have been sold in the US for 499-599 (the price fluctuates) and are essentially the same robot. It is also compatible with the TriCut brush. Narwal Freo Z10 will be recommended as it is the cheaper autoemptying model.

Vacuum only: roborock q5 or q8 max+ or the switchbot k10+ with a tangle resistant all rubber brush. Vacuum and mop combo: MOVA P10 Pro ultra at 399 (I think on Amazon US). This is a de facto last gen flagship and the antitangle TriCut brush (may ship in a bundle or needs to be bought separately from MOVA/dreame but AliExpress resellers can be cheaper) worked great with my long fur corgi’s fur and tumbleweeds. This one is least likely to get stuck compared to the previous options. Compared to other vacuum and mop combos under 400 which are solid budget robots, the p10 pro ultra blows them out of the water. As for the curved legs, I think the MOVA may at first try to ride up them then eventually learn how to properly avoid them. I have the MOVA V50 ultra and after it humped tripod legs on the first day, it was able to “learn” how to smoothly follow the tripod legs and avoid riding up on them on the third day (second day produced mixed results).

The roborock Q5 Max+. If you want better obstacle avoidance with less dust box capacity, you can consider the Q8 Max+

It’s pretty clear OP doesn’t want the mop included, passive or not. You’re just suggesting a more expensive model when a cheaper one can do similarly well because “obstacle avoidance” as if the Q5 Max+ is a bump and go model…

I generally recommend autoemptying for homes with pets that shed a lot. My old robot didn’t have one and it’s 500mL dustbin would clog up with fur after one run Q5 max+ and the q8 max+ are good choices because of the duorollers. The passive mop is easily removable and isn’t the main focus of this robot anyway. If you were in the eu I’d check out the dreame d20 pro plus for its antitangle dual rollers and fur compression feature.

That’s fair! My home simply is fur mayhem so I love the autoemptying. Check out the roborock q5 or q8 without an autoempty dock.

Roborock Q5 Max+ or the Roborock Q8 Max+ if you’d like it to bump into furniture less. It’s much cheaper than you expect. Of course, please make sure to make the home both elderly parent and robot vacuum friendly (which happens to be very similar).

Roborock q5 max+ or the q8 max+? The dual all rubber brushes are pretty tangle resistant but they’ll occasionally need to remove the hair wound at the sides (the brush ends are easily removable).

We have a Roborock Q5 Max+ that we run every night. It does a good job on fur as long as the auto-emptying base doesn't get clogged with scraps of paper or cardboard that our husky has torn apart.

Q7 is outdated. Q5 is the better and even cheaper successor. Don't be fooled by the "5" vs. "7". Q8 is the same as Q5 but with obstacle avoidance. Q7 and Q5 have none. Still don't trust the Q8 avoiding pet waste. It works most of the time but never risk an accident. With the idea of running 2x a day the "+" dock is surely a must-have.

If you don't want to use mopping, save some money. Consider Q5, Q7 or Q8 instead of the S8. Q7 economy price but louder (because older model) Q5 silent Q8 is similiar as Q5 but with obstacle avoidance sensors

Yes. Navigation and mapping is excellent on all currently available models. There are no noticeable differences. That's what Roborock is famous for. The laser scanner turret on top of the robot is doing an awesome job.

It's not really all that complex. The mop on a Q5Pro+/Q8Max+ you'd probably never use is just a plastic holder and a piece of cloth on it. If you'd buy an S8+ and never use the mop, well that's a waste of money because it has the active VibraRise module. But if no obstacle avoidance is needed, the Q5Max+ without mop is a really capable and economic solution and I'd look no further.

We have had ours now for a month and a half. It does 932 square feet, 95% hard floor, the rest area carpets, carpet boost on. It is set to the second of five vacuum level and it takes 78 minutes and the battery drops to 63%.

Roborock q5 max+ with a base, don't bother with the pro because unless you're buying the best top of the line bot the mopping feature is bogus

Second Q5 max+, wait for a good discount, got mine for $279.

This is what I have because I didn’t care for the mop function and have a mix of hard floor and carpet and this has been great so far. Only had it for about a month but for the price and what it picks up has been solid. But just a heads up it did run over a plastic bag and a rag I dropped on the floor, so it does have its cons.

I got the [Roborock Q5 Max+](https://www.reddit.com/user/No-Praline-718/comments/1j9czbq/best_robot_vacuum/) and it's pretty good.. It's got a strong suction, a DuoRoller Brush for pet hair, self-emptying dock which is super convenient and lastly PreciSense LiDAR Navigation for precise mapping.

I just got the Q5 Max+ and it is a great machine!

Depends on your needs really. I don't have experience with the Q8 Max+, but I do with the Q5 Max+, which should be the same in terms of pickup performance. It has a static mop, which likely won't do that well. The obstacle avoidance on the Q8 is likely similar to the Qrevo S, which is bad. If mopping and obstacle avoidance are not a big concern then the Q8 Max+ should be good. Out of the ones you said, I think the L10s Pro Ultra Heat might be your best option. If you can find it without the heated dock (L10s Ultra), you'll likely get it for cheaper, too. It's better at pickup on hard floor than the L40 Ultra, and has better obstacle avoidance. It does lack the extending side brush and mop though. The Dreames can both be "upgraded" with the Tri-cut brush as well that does a bit better at lifting debris out of carpet. Let me know if you have any other questions!

"Perfect" with robot vacuums is not a thing. In all cases, you have to prioritize and compromise, even with the expensive ones. So why pay the big bucks? Honestly, if you look at an expensive robot and you don't see one or more features that jump out at you as "must haves", then I don't know why you'd pay the big bucks. There are a lot of pretty good cheap robots. I own a flagship robot: the Eufy S1 Pro, which retails for $1500, and I got on sale for $1000. In my mind, there were two big features that spoke to me: really good obstacle avoidance, and the roller mop system that cleans the mop continuously. Compromises included average to poor vacuuming performance on carpet, a bit more maintenance (due to that continuous mop cleaning feature), less good edge and corner cleaning, so-so hair tangling performance, and the price. I'm quite happy with my choice; it's met my expectations for five months now. For you, this is a pretty poor match. If you spent $1000+ on this, you'd probably be pretty disappointed, especially with those tall and fluffy carpets. I don't think the S1 Pro is particularly bad as a flagship, at least from the impressions I get from reviewers and user comments. It's possible to make a similar list of pros and cons for every flagship out there, which you've already done for a few of them. So if I were you, I'd probably start with something as cheap as you can live with, and then ask yourself what that can't do that you really need. Then start looking for robots that do those things, and ask yourself if you can live with their drawbacks. Try to get into a mindset of "paying for features" rather than "paying for perfection". Since you like the Roborock Qrevo Master, I'll point you at something to use as a baseline that's more in line with the experience you've had so far: the Roborock Q5 Max+. This should give you an improved experience over your current robot at a price that's a bit higher than what you paid. The Eufy L60 SES is also worth mentioning at this level. From there, see what upgrades look like. For example, there are two directions you can go from the Eufy L60: the Eufy C20 or E20. The C20 adds mopping and automatic mop washing, while the E20 is a better implementation of the L60 idea, along with the ability to convert to a handheld cordless vacuum. Which one of those sounds better to you? Can you live with the drawbacks? Would you be frustrated spending "that much" and having to live with "those problems"? On the Roborock side, maybe the Qrevo S is a good stopping point on your way towards the Master. Or maybe you'd want to switch vendors, and move from the Q5 Max+ to the Dreame L10s Ultra, for example. Reviews can be a problem, especially since you need to weed out both the naysayers and the sponsored shills. Reputation is probably the best thing to go by. To that end, here are a few YouTube reviewers that seem to do pretty well at being fair and balanced: * Vacuum Wars * Just A Dad * Jamie Andrews * Vacuum Chef * The French Glow * The Hook Up Hope that helps. Good luck!

I don't think the L60 has been out for quite a few years. Other Eufys have pretty good reputations for longevity; the 11S comes to mind. I think that Roborock has the best reliability reputation right now, in that their robots seem to last longer and with few signs of recent models being less resilient. If you're looking in the L60 range, the Q5 Max+ (equivalent to the L60 SES) or Q5 Pro+ (equivalent to the L60 Hybrid) would be good alternatives.

If you go ahead with the replacement, here are three options -- two that are common recommendations, and one that's new as of this year, but may be worth a look. If you're wanting to change brands, look at the Roborock Q5 series. The Max+ has no mop, while the Pro+ has a mop. I only mention the Pro+ because a few of the sales seem to have the Pro+ cheaper than the Max+, and the only difference is the presence of the mop, so check which one is cheaper. Both have a dual-roller brush, which is reported to do better with hair tangles. If Eufy is still on your list, there are two interesting options. The L60 SES/Hybrid is a pretty good option. The Hybrid has a mop; same story as the Roborock. It has a blade in the base station that cuts hair tangles off the roller. If you're willing to take a little risk, Eufy just released the E20. It's a bit pricey, but is essentially a vacuum unit that can be used as a vacuum-only robot, a handheld cordless vac, or a cordless stick vac. You can switch back and forth pretty much at will. It's risky because it's new, and pretty much all the reviews available are sponsored, so of course the E20 is revolutionary and game-changing. :-) Independent reviews and real user reports are starting to come out, but it's still pretty slim pickings. Of your requested features, the one you might have to compromise on is the obstacle avoidance. For whatever reason, the manufacturers don't put the best obstacle avoidance on vacuum-only robots. All of the above have some level of obstacle avoidance, but your current X10 is going to be better than pretty much all of them (with the possible exception of the E20).

Of these, the worst mopping will be the Q5 and Q8 robots, which just have stationary pads attached to the back. The S8 also has a pad attached to the back, but includes a scrubbing motion via a plate that vibrates at a high speed. It's better than the Q5 and Q8. The best mopping will be on the Qrevo and Eufy X10. They have spinning mop pads, a dock which refills the water tank on the robot from its own water tank, and also cleans the pads automatically and stores the dirty water in another tank on the dock. Of the last two, each has its strengths and weaknesses. The X10 will be better at obstacle avoidance. The Qrevo is a Roborock, which has a better reputation for quality and reliability than the Eufy, and is also rated a little better than the Eufy at a lot of things: vacuuming performance, mopping performance, etc. It also can swing out one of its mop pads for better edge and corner cleaning, something the Eufy can't do. In some cases, obstacle avoidance is really critical, in which case I'd recommend the Eufy. Otherwise, the Qrevo is likely your best bet.

So an unknown brand just came out with a fairly pedestrian robot with stationary-pad mopping, and it has a higher rating than some of the highest-regarded robots on the market? Nope. If you really need mopping on a budget, take a look at the Dreame D10+, Eufy L60 Hybrid, or one of the Roborock Q series robots. For a big improvement in mopping for not much more money, look at the Eufy C20 or Dreame L10s Ultra series. Mova can be good, if they've solved their problem with fragile front wheels. If you don't care about mopping, look at the Eufy L60 SES or SwitchBot K10+.

I did my first test with the Max+ mode fully on and it drained battery like hell. I guess it was a mistake, carpet boost is on so I can vacuum the house in normal mode since it's mostly hard floor.

I got a Roborock q5 max+ for $279 USD last week and it works amazingly. The app is really great too. I love it so far

For just vacuuming you should look at the Q5 Max+, Q5 Pro+ or the Q8 Max+. For the Q8 Max Plus you are paying extra for the electronic water pump for mopping that the Q5 products don't. You can compare up to three Roborock products at the following link Good Luck [https://us.roborock.com/pages/robot-vacuum-cleaner-compare](https://us.roborock.com/pages/robot-vacuum-cleaner-compare)

The Q7 only has 4200 pascals of suction and I believe is on close out. The Q5 and Q8 both have 5500 pascals of suction.

Just got the Roborock Q5 Max+ for $279 I'm very happy with it so far. It is replacing my old one that finally kicked the bucket after 8 years. It's just a barebones vacuum, no mopping, no fancy stuff which is exactly what I wanted. Less things to go wrong. But it does a great job of mapping out your house and cleaning in an intelligent way.

Roborock Q5 Max+ is what I have. Did not want a mopper so went with this model. Have a dog and cat but can't speak for long human hair. Floor is mostly tile but do have area rugs scattered about. Some thresholds are a bit high but it handles those with ease.

I have similar setup and use a Q5 which works great. I have a cat and dog and no issues with clogging.

We LOVE our Roborock Q5 Max+ that we got in July. Does not mop. Great on cat fur and my long hair. They get wrapped around the very ends of the rollers and every other time or so I just flip it over and slide the accumulated fur off the roller ends. Take a few seconds and not a chore! I did have to set some “no go” areas on the map because there are too many cables and cords there. It works like a champ on tile, wood, and oriental rugs (no fringe). The cats do not like it. 🙀

I also got a Q5 Max+ a few weeks ago and love it. My house is now clean, every day, and I don't have to do anything. I'm not sure if all Roborocks are this good, but this model is a winner.

On hardwood quiet, on carpet not quiet, and dumping the bin is very loud. Like I wouldn't watch a movie with it on.

Haven't noticed any issues with cleaning our hardwood floors. Obviously it doesn't mop. For object avoidance it seems decent, it manages to find its way around our chairs no issue. There's a narrow about 8" wide protruding bit of wall that it seems to crash into every time. But other than that works well.

2 bags come with the machine. Have had the vacuum for about 3 months running daily and still not full.

Yes, very happy with how well it vacuums.

Yes seems to find it way around our house well. We have 5/8" risers with no problem. The app documentation doesn't come with it but is intuitive.

Just bought a Q5 Max+ on sale and its great.

If you don’t need mopping the roborock Q5 max+ is a better vacuum than the roborock qrevo because it has dual rollers and it’s also cheaper.

Most of the Q5’s only have a single roller. Only the max+ has the dual roller, one rubber and one with a bristle brush which makes it a much better vacuum, particularly for pet hair.

I bought one about 5 months ago. Originally thought I was going to love it. Now. Not so much. My main problem with it is the fact that the self-empty feature does not work well for me. I have one cat and a large wool rug in the living room. It does a good job of vacuuming, the problem is between the wool fibers from the rug and the cat hair. It doesn't want to self-empty correctly. I set the auto schedule to vacuum once a day and I have it on maximum empty. But half the time I come home and check it and they're still dirt in the dust bin. I have to either shake it around and press the self empty button or just take the dust bin out and empty it into the trash myself. It's very frustrating. I should have just kept my old one that did not self empty. Wondering if anyone else has had this problem?

Double check and make sure you have yours set to the maximum empty. I think everyone who owns one Needs to do that. That could possibly fix your problem if you don't have pets and all its vacuuming is hardwood floors. I would be getting rid of this if I didn't spend so much money on it.

Bought the same on Prime Day, one of the best purchases I’ve made in a long time

I’ll second the Roborock q5 max+. We have two Berners, and while it definitely will not replace a good vacuum, you can run the robot daily to help minimize the amount of fur on the ground between deeper cleanings.

Bought this yesterday and eager for its arrival. First robot vacuum.

We use a Roborock Q5 Max+ just to keep the worst at bay. Still have to hit the rugs with a Dyson regularly as well. Ours is blowing her coat now for god knows what reason—it’s still the dead of winter—so nothing can keep up.

I find the roborock far superior than roomba (and i think it might be cheaper). I have 2 and one of them is self emptying and mops very well (q5 plus). It hoovers very well and it helps to decrease the amount of dog fur from my dog (that sheds a lot) You can disconnect the mop from the vacuum.. you don’t have to use the mopping function (even though it’s pretty great). Next one I’ll get will be the roborock qrevo because its mopping skills are superior.

We just got the Roborock Q5 Max+ during the holiday sale. We held off a long time thinking the technology wasn’t quite there yet. The Roborock has exceeded our expectations: easy to use - we like the self emptying feature; does a good job of vacuuming on our mix of hardwood and area rugs - not perfect but gets up the cat fur; and is relatively quiet - definitely not as loud as our regular vacuum. Note: we opted just for the kind that vacuums only and not a mopping model. Highly recommend if you have a pet.

I’ve recently gotten a Roborock Q5 Max+ which seems to work well with HA. We only wanted a vacuum and wanted something that would self empty. Home assistant also has the ability to control this locally.

Those vacuums are a GAME CHANGER. MY regular vacuum just wits in the corner while this thing is doing all the work. I gave my previous one to my grandma, because my mamma just died and she needs a little helper. She was like boo I dont it, but she's pretty happy with the results, even if it's used 2 yo. Robot

Those vacuums are a GAME CHANGER. MY regular vacuum just wits in the corner while this thing is doing all the work. I gave my previous one to my grandma, because my mamma just died and she needs a little helper. She was like boo I dont it, but she's pretty happy with the results, even if it's used 2 yo. Robot

We got one last year and love it. We will end up with one on each floor.

I have used Roborock for years and they are great. If you just want vacuum then look at Q5 Max+. Should be able to get it for around $500.

I recently bought a Roborock Q5 Max+ on sale for $280 on amazon. My first robovac and it’s been phenomenal for pet hair. Be careful with that rabbit hole thinking you need to spend $$ on the top tier when entry levels will do the trick. It’s a major step up from having no robovac at all.

I recently got my first robot vacuum, and it’s quickly become one of my favorite inventions. It’s incredibly efficient at sweeping my hardwood floors. While I know that nothing beats the precision of a good old-fashioned broom, let’s be honest—I was rarely going to sweep my floors as often as needed. Now, instead of the floors feeling gritty, they have this silky smooth texture that’s hard to achieve with just occasional sweeping. It’s a game-changer, especially with a toddler in the house, who loves to leave a trail of crumbs wherever she goes. Having the vacuum take care of that gives me so much peace of mind. It’s one less thing I have to worry about when trying to keep the house clean and my little one happy.

I’ll have to get back to you. I think it used less than 20% for the small area of hardwood living room and tile kitchen I was most concerned with. No carpets.

I checked just now and my bin didn’t completely empty either. No pets and hasn’t been on carpets yet.

I used the wirecutter (New York Times) recommendations and there was a link provided https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-robot-vacuum/

Thankfully I mainly have stuff like this from a toddler to clean up. Do you know what model or brand works well with pets? https://preview.redd.it/81o40apu6dwd1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f0baf1ea5f4b24e993a1f4b6ab977ab21787d52d

We have 2 dogs 4 cats and 2 rabbits and both our roborocks (older e25 and a new Q5 Max+) do an amazing job in this very challenging/demanding environment. The e25 has the older single roller and it does get hair bound up in it that needs to be manually cleared. The new Q5 Max+ has the new dual rollers and it has no such problems. We tried a eufy but it was terrible by comparison, I gave it away lol.

IMO the real challenge is a pet hair heavy area that is partly hardwood combined with low pile rugs. The eufy L50 we had was utter trash and would leave clumps of hair every time it went up onto a rug...so bad. Ended up giving away the eufy it was so disappointing, waste of money. Our roborock e25 from 2019 does a better job, and our q5 max+ does an even better job than that. The only thing I can make of the high score you've given the eufy L60 (which is pretty much the same as the L50 but with slightly higher power) is that your tests are simply not representative of the real world, or, not representative of a real household with several pets. We have 2 Labrador Retrievers, 4 cats, and 2 house rabbits, so our environment is about as challenging/demanding as one can get. The robot vacuums are scheduled to run once per day. Based on my personal experience I'd never recommend the eufy brand to anyone with pets, it's just a poorly engineered unit by comparison.

Got a Q5 Max+ here and it does great with our 2 labs, 4 cats, and 2 rabbits!

Roborock q5 max+ - got one on prime days, vacuum only. Can handle the hair from our 2 Labs, 4 cats, and 2 rabbits!

I've been so happy with mine since I got it!

We got a Roborock q5 max+ and it’s the 3rd robot vacuum we’ve had and the best so far. It’s not perfect but the mapping outshines Shark’s software. There are 2 silicone rollers that roll towards themselves into the dustbin. The rollers do end up with hair wrapped around the ends which requires manual removal but we only do this once per week instead of every time we ran the machine with our others. It has a bag in the dust collection thing in the base which I prefer because the process of emptying one with an open dust cup is messy and ends up with plumes of dust and hair in the trash bin. Again, it’s not perfect but I’m much happier with it than any other robot machine we’ve tried. We do have a canister that we use to do the rugs periodically because the robot seems to be ideal for hard floors.

We almost got the Eufy L60 but went with Roborock q5 max+ because the cutter blades had mixed effectiveness in most YouTube reviews I watched. We have all hard floors minus a few rugs in some areas so I focused on hard floors minus cleaning for the robot decision.

I am not sure it is the best option, but I think it is a solid option, especially for the price. Keep in mind that the Q models are somewhat stripped down versions of fancier models. As far a vacuuming ability goes, I think it will do very well. Auto detangling split single rollers are all the rage right now because no one wants to spend two minutes removing the rollers, pulling off their ends, removing wound up hair from the ends and putting it back together. These new rollers are great at avoiding hair tangles, but they provide mediocre vacuuming ability. The Q5 Max+ has the slightly older dual counter rotating solid rollers. In my book, this is excellent! The two minutes per week you will have to spend on roller maintenance will get you much, much better vacuuming performance than you would get with a $1500 Saros 10R flagship model. Personally, I opted for a pair of charging dock only S8s because they are vacuuming monsters, and I don't mind manually emptying my dustbin because I would have to remove it weekly anyway to clean the air filter. So will you even though it has a self emptying dock. I love my S8s and they vacuum clean like beasts, especially on rugs and carpets!!! I don't think the Q5 Max+ is that much of a step down from an S8 when it comes to vacuuming abolity. But you will have a bit less flexibility and capabilities in the app. All the essentials will be there. I think it will serve you well. Good luck and happy robovacing!

Canada here too! After some research, I decided on Roborock. From reading online these seems to be the drawbacks according to several people: non-existent customer service apparently, object avoidance -so if your sis very lazy to pickup things or got pets in the house. I was about to buy from Costco the Narwhal because of Costco return policy...but they cancelled the order so ended up getting The Roborock Qrevo Master because I wanted the mop functionality. If Vacuum only, Q5 max+ seems to be the popular choice.

Roborock q5 max+ have the same brush design.

MB, on this photo it looks just like a normal roborock dual brush. You are right

Roboroc Q5 None better. If they no longer make that one, go the next number higher.

I second this. I think I only paid $200 for my Q5? Mine doesn't mop or auto empty, but very good on the vacuuming front (and has all the good mapping, navigation, multi floor modes the other ones do). And they do have models with the mopping and auto emptying things.

This is more of an uninformed opinion than unpopular. I can run mine when I'm not even home. I can adjust the noise level of I am home. I can even have it do just one or 2 rooms if I want/ and have it do places I'm not occupying. I did save money and get one that I have to manually empty...but guess what? Emptying it takes me a LOT less time than vacuuming the entire floor. This sub is for opinions, but you're factually wrong on it being a waste of time, because it is saving me time...the only way it would be wasting my time is if the alternative was to not sweep or vacuum the floors at all...

Roborock. I have a q5 and an S8 Max v ultra. Both awesome machines.

Older roombas are simple, reliable, durable, effective, and cheap. But they don't have smart navigation or mapping where you can ask them to clean specific areas. If you want navigation they become less cheap and less durable. I have a 10yo 600 series roomba and a new Roborock Q5. Q5 is great but I'm skeptical that it's going to last as long.

I had a roborock Q5 in my apartment. Myself and my cat. Loved it, it was fantastic. Easy to use, easy to set up custom cleans if I made a mess, and easy to set up no go zones with the app on my phone. Never had any issues with it. I have a shark now in my house, and will absolutely be replacing it with the one I used to have because I hate my shark.

great news! Almost ANY roborock you get (for that matter, any robot) is going to far surpass your i7 experience. I would not grab the Q5, TBH. There is, actually a very big difference between $500 and $1000 robots, but if I may recommend... I'd say the best CURRENT value on a Roborock is the Curv/Edge, the S8 MaxV Ultra and the QRevo MaxV. While the Saros are great... I don't think they're better \*enough\* than the models listed about to justify the price. Also, I'd wait for Prime Day, regardless. Also, I test robots for a living for Lifehacker, and am not sponsored by anyone, and test robots in my very real house.

I had a Samsung Jetbot that broke after a year and a half, and would have cost me $150 to fix. I went back and forth on fixing it, but ultimately realized that I could buy a brand new robot for that price. The Roborock Q5 happened to be on sale for exactly that price, so I ended up buying it, and have been using it obsessively to clean up the buildup from the past several months. I didn’t realize how much dust and hair had accumulated on my carpets in that time (I live in an apartment, and don’t own another vacuum), and looking at what a difference it’s made to have a freshly-vacuumed carpet has just given me so much tranquility. I have a cat, but really the buildup had come from me, because I have long hair that tends to shed. There was literally a mouse-sized amount of hair tangled up in the side brush after running the vacuum four times, with the main rollers covered in hair. The advice that was given to me by folks in this subreddit is to make sure you get a robot with Lidar. Lidar is the mapping technology that actually allows the robovac to clean every inch of the floor. The robovacs without Lidar just kind of bounce around, and aren’t nearly as effective at cleaning because they don’t keep track of where they’ve been. They go in zig-zag patterns, and Lidar robots go back and forth. It’s more expensive, but to me the difference is worth it. I’ll also say that what convinced me to get a robovac in the first place is that someone told me it forces them to keep their floors clean. You can’t have your floors cluttered because it will block the robot and stop it from doing its job, or even get it tangled up. So that’s just one more reason to get one.

That's the really, really old ones. They're not great. The new ones map the environment, and do a proper pass of all areas. Like the Roborock Q8 or Q5 are great.

Switched to a new Roborock q5 from eufy bc it was damaging engineered floors. Eufy does great on hardwoods, beber, and tile.

What are some of the missing features? I have a Q5 and I'm curious what I'm missing out on

I've owned a few, my experiences with different brands in order of ownership: Neato - My first and way ahead of it's time. I loved this vacuum, it had lidar way before the rest of the competition. Didn't save maps but navigated the house systemically and did a great job cleaning. Lasted from 2013 until 2019. I wish this company had continued to improve their product lines but they've sky rocketed in price compared to their competition without really adding new features. ECOVACS DEEBOT- The shortest lived vacuum I owned, less than 6 months. Piece of shit. iRobot Roomba 960 - Had it from 2019 until 2023. Claimed to map rooms but it didn't really short battery life forced it to recharge at least 1 time and often 2 while cleaning my home. Honestly...I didn't care for this vacuum and was happy when it died as it was the perfect height to get itself stuck under my kitchen cabinets in 1 spot nearly every time it ran. Claimed to map rooms but just did the iRobot crash into things random path thing. Shark RV2502AE - It was good...until it wasn't when the lidar died, just over 6 months in 2023. I bought it new off Amazon, but Shark claim it was refurbished, the refurbisher claimed it was out of warranty, and Amazon is impossible to get someone on the phone with any real power to fix things. Even beyond those issues, the app was wonky and always very slow to connect. I will never buy another Shark product after that experience and I was almost to the point of giving up on robot vacuums. Roborock Q5 - Current, had it for almost a year. It's a great vacuum so far. It cleans quick and is smart enough to know when it hits rugs/carpet so kicks in extra power at those points. It did get stuck once under my bed, but I've since used the app to make it a no go zone and never had another issue with that. My 1 issue with it is not with the vacuum but it's empty dock design. The bags do not seal perfectly allowing some dust to escape which will clog a vent preventing proper emptying. Not a huge deal as...well it still can run 5+ times without needing it cleaned out. I bought an extended warranty with this one.

Ya it’s crazy. Yesterday I vacuumed and mopped with the Dyson and a few hours later the cats and dogs had hair everywhere. It’s nice waking up and coming home to a fully vacuumed and mopped house. These newer robots are so much better than the roombas my parents had 20 odd years ago.

Funny I just bought a roborock q5 and its amazing. Did not expect it Actually vacuums Mapped the whole apartment in detail Cleaned carpet pretty well Dead simple Has a mop (to test out this weekend)

Well I dont want the best mop, I wanted a simple robo vacuum....mop is bonus

I’m hesitant to compare to the S7, because I don’t know what that has. In terms of cutting edge technology, Roborock has some crazy new things coming—like one with a robot arm that will pick up and move objects in the way. And it will raise itself up over transitions, like to a carpet. The Saros10 model came out in the past year and is supposed to be fantastic—at $1200 to $1600. I’m just saying that for $179, the Q8 is better than what I have. There are 2 rubber rollers on the bottom (rather than one), and it’s great for dust & pet hair. The phone app is easier to use and edit. I’ve had no problems with docking or finding the dock. And the small-area-clean button works great, which my Q5 didn’t have.

We have a roborock q5 I believe and I like it. When talking with a friend about them, her complaint was that it took too long and in the amount of time it took for the robot to vacuum one room, she could have done the whole downstairs. And while that is true, if that’s the complaint then she’s not doing it right. I pick up all the stuff off of the floor and run the vacuum while I do other things like fold and put away laundry, the dishes, organize rooms where the vacuum isn’t running. I find it helps keep the amount of cat hair and litter everywhere down and I like that it keeps crumbs at a minimum. Does it replace actually vacuuming? Most people say no. And if you are actually vacuuming your home currently every few days, then it’s not going to do as good of a job. But I personally was only vacuuming once every couple of weeks (I know, gross) so it’s made a big improvement in our home for sure.

>A deep clean should be done before using and they should be vacuuming every day or so and mopping every few days. A tiny robot cannot do what a large upright or stick vac can do. This is true, but I am always amazed how much my Roborock q5 can vacuum up

Just the Roborock Q5, nothing more to it's name

Just vacuum, the Q5 pro does both though I believe

Please dont buy an roomba maybe an refurbished roborock they also haf great quality and longeity. Maybe an s7 ore the q8 q7 q5

Maybe try a roborock q5? I have an old model roborock e4 or something like that has been going for years and does a good job for my corgi.

Really? I have two Roborocks Q5s and they are definitely inferior to iRobot’s S9 which I also have. Worse mapping, worse suction by far. The Q5 struggles with any elevation differences: it struggles to get over thin rugs or floor transition strips. That said, I got the Q5 at a cheap price and it’s been OK. I would just rather the S9 if the price was equal. Of course, Roomba has its own problems.

Robot vacuums have good quality control now, like Roborock, Eufy, and Dreame. There were no problems with my Eufy L60 and my Roborock Q5. I can't give you a definitive answer based on time, but I believe quality is also important.

I clean after every use of my Robbie (Roborock Q5). The ends are removable and the hair just slides off. Pull the white end and pull the hair out of the rod. No tools or tweezers are required.

Even on the mid-range Q5, I never noticed any corner spots with crumbs or dust that it missed. The suction seems plenty strong, you can just run it on turbo when not home. The more challenging spots are behind the couch/TV where there are wires on the floor, or legs it can't fit between. I'm okay with that I just vacuum those manually infrequently.

I just got the Roborock Q5 and it is the second best thing I've ever bought for my house! Litter robot was the first lol. It saves soooo much time and soreness and my floors are clean even when I'm exhausted! No complaints so far, it mops and vacuums and hasn't had any issues yet. We have 2 dogs and a long haired cat, and one of the dogs is a Newfoundland with an insane amount of fur!

Roborock, my husband did a lot of research. We have the Q5. Catch one on a sale.

Thanks! That’s more than one vote for the roborock Q5

Thanks so much! I’m comparing the Q5 models right now! What is SES?

That’s what I decided on! Thanks!

That exact Roborock is my first robot vacuum. We have two Pyrenees/Lab mix (one white, one black), and two cats. I generally schedule rooms individually after my docking station started to clog with debris and hair. The Q5 Is amazing, but it'll pickup clothes and socks if they are on the ground. Just have to make sure things are off the floor before the vacuum starts it's schedule and you're golden. I've been running the cheap Amazon special bags and filters and haven't had any issues yet.

I have a q5 roborock without the self emptying dock because I think that’s a waste of money. I’m going to buy another one for my second level. It was only 150 bucks on Amazon and it has been a game changer for pet hair. I have mostly hardwood floors, a few rooms with carpet and some rugs, cleaned them all with no problems. Highly recommend

I bought a Roborock q5 for $140 and it has been fantastic. I must be getting old because I’ve never been this excited about a vacuum ever. The app is easy to use. The LiDAR mapping worked great, it hasn’t gotten stuck on anything. It has different levels of suction, and it changes depending on the floor type. Higher levels are louder, but it’s still not that loud. We have some pets who shed a lot and it works wonders. It does have a mop attachment but you don’t have to put it on. Mine runs once a day and cleans three rooms with hardwood floor and two rooms with carpet, and then I bring it downstairs and it does four more hardwood floor rooms. I like it so much I’m going to get another one so I don’t have to carry it downstairs. But this thing has been a game changer in a house with shedding pets.

Mine has not. When I bring it down and tell it to clean, it does a little dance to figure out where it is and then goes to work. It made a new map and it’s also saved in the app. I’ll also mention is pretty easy to clean. I did notice hair being spun around the end of the rollers but they come apart and cleaning them was a breeze. Like you can do it in less than ten seconds. I did have to take the rollers out also because a Christmas ornament my cats knocked down got stuck behind the rollers. But it still finished its cleaning cycle and went back to its dock. I only noticed because it sounded different.

I absolutely love my Roborock Q5 (\~4-5 years old now) and it has been a champ to keep up with two kitties and the insane amount of litter that gets tracked through our apartment. I think I paid around $300 or so originally. Ours just has a vacuum function, but quite a few other models also can mop which I've actually heard works pretty well. It does a great job at mapping our floorplan and from there you can easily clean by room, zone, or do a full vacuum. Overall the app is really easy to use and I really have no complaints. I don't think it replaces vacuuming yourself entirely, but it has helped us get through the week by just running that on busy weekdays and doing a deep clean once on the weekends. Biggest thing is to just keep up on cleaning / swapping components like filters and the brush as you would with any other vacuum and it should hang around for quite a while

I can echo some of the advice here and also tell you that your criteria are the right ones. I think the #1 issue with mopping vacs is that they are still a relatively new technology and they are still trying to figure out how to automate the drying and disinfecting of the robot and the dock. That's the #1 reason to purchase a newer, more expensive model. I have the QRevo Curv and have frankly been blown away by its ability to stay clean and dry and odor-free compared to older models. That being said, it still doesn't do that all by itself. However, it has remained spotless for a year and a half by doing these 3 simple things: 1. In the fresh water tank, I have the silver ion module (don't know if it does anything), and I put a tiny amount (half capful) of cleaning solution in the fresh water tank when I refill it. 2. In the dirty water tank, every time I empty it, I put a little splash of bleach in the bottom, and I spray a little bleach-based mold-mildew cleaner around the crevices. An occasional denture cleaning tab can help, too. 3. I have a calendar reminder to remove the dock tray once a month and thoroughly clean it. It doesn't take long. That thing reliably develops a dark residue that might be mold, but once a month seems to keep it in check. As for vacuuming, if you look at the tests, apparently the models with long dual rollers technically do a better job than the models with the Duo-Divide brush, but honestly, they ALL vacuum much better than the vacuum-only models of a few years ago, and I thought those did a pretty good job already. The Duo-Divide brush was a game-changer for me. We have long haired women in this house and I've had this thing for 18 months and I've never had to untangle anything from the brushes. It's crazy. I have a Q5 on another floor and I have to religiously clean those brushes. But the Curv? I stopped even checking underneath. There's never anything to untangle. So my advice is to get a Roborock (best software) and to get one with rotating mops and the Duo Divide brush, and to get a newer model with the best washing/drying dock. Other things that could swing you one way or another: Does it need to get under furniture (the Curv is tall and I have slim-robot envy. I have a half dozen pieces of furniture that a shorter vac could get under), does it need to climb over thresholds (that matters in my house). Does it need to recognize dog poop (newer models definitely have better object recognition). I don't place any value on object recognition (I turn it off), but I don't have an incontinent pet, either.

I have two (I have a slight split level). I got the Roborock Q5 for one floor and the Q5Pro for the second. I didn't want the "mop" when I bought the Q5 because there are rugs on that floor, but in hindsight, I should have gone with the Q5Pro again and just taken off the little mop rag. It does the job, but that one has given me more issues (disconnects from wifi randomly, gets stuck more (could be the places it goes), and the rollers have the brushes which just collect my hair and get clogged up. The capacity of the collector is smaller than the Pro version too. I have zero complaints about the Pro. And at the end of the day, I no longer have little tumblefur balls rolling around the rooms. Saves me so much time and effort to have them run every day.

I wholeheartedly agree. I’ve done extensive research and reviewed numerous sources, and I’m thoroughly impressed with my Roborock Q5. There haven’t been any complaints, and the robot is incredibly easy to disassemble, repair, and clean.

I've got 3 Q5 for 2 years and they work fine still despite daily cleaning of their areas.

I've had the Q5 and Q8 maxand I will say the Q8 is markedly better. The "mop" on it is not really mopping, it's more like a light wipe-down with a damp rag, which is good enough for me. I don't want to deal with the added complexity and potential leakage with a true mopping setup. The app is the best I've seen so far. The Roborocks in my experience don't get stuck as much either. The navigation is more intelligent.

For the record - I recently bought Roborock Q5, and I'm pretty disappointed. Carpet everywhere. It performs as good or a bit worse that the first version of the Xiaomi Vac Robot. The only improvement is the app.

Agree!!! We have an older roborock Q5 and it is still a powerhouse!!! Won’t be without one ever again

Roborock q5, I believe they stopped selling the q5+ which self empties but it’s a great robot that’s cheap too

Yes it’s a great vacuum. But be aware, you’ll want to upgrade in the future. Question is if you’re okay with that.

Are you joking? It’s Roborock’s cheapest, least featured product. It’s missing everything. I have 2, I’m not knocking it, but there *obviously* tons of features it’s missing that OP might want.

Google banned in your country or something? It’s literally the most basic model.

I've been using a robot vacuum for about 7 years now. I only vacuum once every 3 or 4 months in spots the vacuum can't reach, which is only a handful of very small spots. Doesn't take me more than 5 minutes total (~1000sq ft home). Overall, I HIGHLY recommend it. Most modern ones can vacuum hard floors and carpet. You can set it on a schedule (i have mine vacuum twice a week while I am at work). Their software is smart enough to map your home and have the ability to vacuum specific rooms of you make a mess. Only downsides are you can't leave tiny items on the floor, sometimes gets stuck on a cord or rug (maybe once every few weeks), and it can get stuck under furniture depending on how toght of a squeeze it is. I got used to all of that, and I just don't leave tiny stuff on the floor, don't let loose cables lie aorund, and don't own much furniture the vacuum can get stuck under. I have owned 2 Roombas and currently a Roborock Q5. I like the Roborock the most out of the 3. Not sure why people are commenting that they aren't worth it, and vacuuming yourself is better. I will never go back to non-robot vacuum. Some brands/models are better than others. Just do your research and rely on customer reviews when you buy. I researched for a while, and my Roborock Q5 is wonderful. I would WAY rather take the vacuum back to the dock once every few weeks than vacuum all the time.

This. every manufacturer is making a ton of money on mopping models so not really any reason for them to focus on vacuum only models. If I was too buy something right now and focus was NOT on active mopping I would choose the Roborock Q5 series. You'll still get the gravity mop system but no need to use it. Just be aware that in regards to software development and so on you'll probably be left behind at some point.

The Q8 already has a bit more "mop" stuff, as the water tank is internal and with the dust bin. And you can control the amount of water dispensed. The Q5 is the least "moppy" one, as the water tank gets attached to the bottom, along with the mop and there's no active water strength control.

Yes. The roborock has been a gamechanger.

I started with a dumb robot and spent a lot of time 'robot proofing' the house so it wouldn't get stuck on cords, or trying to go under sofas and dressers. Adding bumpers under couch edges, raising up furniture with foam pads so it could go under, etc. and it still got stuck somewhere random 20% of the runs. the lidar and mapping go / no go zones completely changes the ability to complete the job. That is easier than dealing with a dumb robot. My roborock S7 rarely gets stuck. A roborock Q5 is $140! You could buy a new one if it broke after warranty and it'd still be cheap.

I got the q5 on a nice Amazon sale. I never use the mop function, only vacuum. So far it’s been great, and we have two dogs and a cat. We get the house cleaned once a week and I’ve been running the robot once a day, or couple days to keep up with it. So happy on this ourchase

This and a stick vac to spot clean is what I have

If you don't need obstacle avoidance here you go: -Roborock Qrevo Pro/Plus/S -Roborock Q5/Q7/Q8 series -Dreame D10 Plus Gen 2 -Ecovacs Deebot N20 Plus

They absolutely have no camera

Don't spend $1000 on one, go for one around $350-$400 with an auto emptying dock. Roborock is my favorite. You'll get 99% the same features and function as the $1k one, and if you like it then you can get a second one and still be under $1k!

Depends on your flooring and needs If carpets - Roborock - best vacuuming particularly if you pair it with an auto empty dock (most newer models) If hardwood and no pets (Read not an inordinate amount of vacuuming) - Eufy S1 Pro - Best mopping hands down along with pretty good vacuuming

Thirding roborock. Love mine. I splurged on the self emptying model….totally worth it.

We have two shedding dogs and we love our Roborocks. The first one, while it was fantastic filled kinda quickly (not their fault, our dogs shed A LOT) so it was a minor inconvenience to empty it halfway through it's cleaning 2700sqft. My brother became disabled so I gave him that one for his apartment. He loves it and his helper can empty it and help him with harder care items so it saves him money (he was initially being charged an hour every day for vacuuming, now he's not). The second one I got was self emptying so it can continue all by itself and I really appreciate it. I only have to empty the main basin once a week and that's it. Super convenient and does a fantastic job cleaning. I used to vacuum at least twice a day to stay on top of the hair. Now I do a "deep" vacuum once a week- baseboards, under carpets, etc. Roborock gave me hours of my life back and that's not an exaggeration.

Get a self emptying Roborock one. Roombas are crap that are basically all about their name now. You will have to clean the fur out of some spots on it at times, but if you run it every day it will keep most of it out of the way.

Second the OP.  I'd recommend getting a Roborock or similar with self emptying vacuum. It works best on hardwood floors. Carpet not so much. Look into robots with high suction power. Like the other OP, you will still need to dyson up nooks and crannies manually, but the ability to schedule frequent self vacuum in high traffic areas cuts down on your workload significantly.  The self mopping feature imo is not worth it, but maybe the newest models have improved.  From experience, you will want robots that can detect animals (I've seen videos where the robot runs over the dogs tails, gets stuck, and terrifies the dogs). Also look for ones that can detect objects like poop, so you don't come home to a Jackson pollock painting. Look into the clearance height of the robot as well, and compare to your furniture if you are looking to have the robot go under couches and stuff. For example, our roborock barely fits under the couch, and even with 1 cm clearance, will avoid going under the couch if it detects the under-couch fabric is hanging too low (we fixed this by reholstering the bottom of the couch). Worth mentioning if you work from home that the self emptying vacuum feature can get loud, but it is usually very brief and you should be able to schedule emptying times. The robot vacuum companies get you on the replacement parts, which are not cheap. You do get what you pay for though, and routine maintenance (cleaning sensors, replacing brushes, untangling hair from rollers) goes a long way in longevity. I haven't found a robot vacuum that does not pick up hairs in the dog roller yet, so expect to periodically open up the robot to remove hair (usually very easy). For replacement parts, you can go third party for cheaper. Especially so when buying replacements for big brand/popular models. For example, you can get an unofficial 5 pack of vacuum bags for the self emptying vacuum for the same cost as 1 official one (or something like that). For carpets, I'd just go with those manual carpet brushes. Picks up way more hair more efficiently than any vacuum. Just my 2 cents. 

Roomba's have pretty subpar mapping & navigation compared to most other brands. We have one (older) Roomba that relies on VSLAM for navigation and one Roborock that uses LiDAR; the difference is night and day. I would avoid iRobot on that alone until they change their tech.

Yes! Don’t get the Curv plus it’s cheaply built and ugly. The S8 MaxV has premium materials. They are all plastic but the Curv and Q series feel flimsy.

You might not be happy with the build quality of the lower end series like the Q. Stick with Premium. I would get the S series or Saros. The Q series feels very cheap compared to the S plus it can handle the hair NP. It’s a more attractive unit too unless you like a shiny egg that looks like it came out of an 80s movie. lol

The comment about robot vacuums only being for small places is probably based on the old random pattern robots. Most robots now map and do well in large houses. It sounds like most mapping robots would work for you, since you don't want mopping, have hardfloors, and no pets. So anything with lidar (prefered) or vslam navigation. Obstacle avoidance might be a useful feature for cords, shoes, toys etc. left on the ground. It might be worth looking into a Eufy L60, iRobot Roomba j series, Roborock Q series, or shark. I'm biased because I have three robot vacs (Roborock S6, Ecovacs x1 omni, and iRobot Roomba j5+ combo) and my roomba j5+ is the only one that is reliable and working at the moment