Roborock - Qrevo Master

I’ve picked one of these up to replace an s6 max and while it does a lot of things well, the AI seems like a downgrade. Gets stuck on wires and seems to have worse obstacle detection which is very disappointing. Equally Amazon messed up the delivery and I ended up with two for the price of one so I can’t grumble too badly

You just made me buy a Qrevo Master. My gf has long hair too and my s7 is suffering with hairs on brush.

I have had mine for a month, still can’t get in on the network. Tried everything - Making sure its 2,4ghz - Only use alphanumerical in both wifi-name and password - Using airplane mode when going through the connection wizard - Tried using bot iOS and android devices - Tried using the Xiaomi app - Changed DNS to 8.8.8.8 - Changed the router IP - Making sure ACL is turned off Have a 2 week long thread with their support, waiting for feedback on my logs. Anyone got an idea to test since it seems to work so good for everyone else? 😅

Forgot to write that! If I take a second phone and use that as a hospot it works. So it should be something with my network. The problem still persists 🤷🏻‍♂️ I am using Sonos, Philips Hue and several other devices - so the router is not dead - about an year old…

Eufy S1 Pro and Roborock Qrevo Master. Eufy uses a roller mop and can clean and mop the floor at the same time (ensuring the mop stays clean while cleaning). Roborock uses a spinning mop but is also excellent at removing stains. I remember Vacuum Wars had a ranking list evaluating both of them, with Eufy and Roborock being in the first and second positions. They have updates on their YouTube if you want to see more visual results.

I've had my q revo master for a few months now and I want to hang a picture of it with an "Employee of the year" tag above it.

I agree about Roborock, I have the Qrevo master, and it will eat cords like there is no tomorrow. Besides that it is great.

I bought the QRevo Master for $950 this morning. But I’m easily satisfied with even a basic robot’s vacuuming abilities. I wanted a good mop and obstacle avoidance(kids).

Great to hear! Any tips for the initial mapping? First time having a mapping vac. If I move furniture will it realize and vacuum in the newly opened up spot?

I came here to recommend the same one. Mine is mopping my floor as well speak while I’m out. It’s still relatively new to us so it still blows my mind when we come home to a well-mopped home.

Agreed. I’ve not been impressed with the obstacle avoidance on small items/objects. But I have nothing to compare it to. My previous vacuum was a roomba that didn’t even have wifi. It’s weird though. I watched my QRevo Master correctly identify a baby bib on the floor as an obstacle. It marked it on the map and went around it. I was impressed. But then on another pass it turned toward the bib while it was already close to it and I guess it was too low for the camera to see so it removed the obstacle from the map and went right over it. I hope it gets better with firmware updates.

My Roborock QRevo Master does a great job. It’s my only robot vacuum that vacuums and mops so I’ve got nothing to compare it to but it makes our floors look great.

Both not in your selection but I found out my new Roborock Qrevo Master is more silent compared to my older iRobot I7 (which got a halve-retirement: only two smaller rooms upstairs so I don’t have to move the robots anymore). Besides the finer tuning of suction power it’s also less noisy around brakes between the tiles. Not sure if the wheels are more elastic or they have better coil springs… but it’s even possible to draw lines on the map where there gaps between eg rooms are, so it drives slower / more careful / less noisy over those.

Qrevo Master by far, multi pet children heavy traffic household here

Hello, my recommendation is the QRevo Master which is more than what you want to spend, but if you wait for a sale I paid around 1000.00 dollars on prime sale. It is everything you want and you will love it. Feel free to ask any questions. In my opinion the spinning mops are the best for uneven floors

The Qrevo Master is fantastic!

I personally love the double rollers, I also have kids, pets etc… the Q Revo S or the Q Revo Master have been fantastic as to vacuuming and mopping. Game changing!

In my opinion the Master covers all my necessities, pa ((10,000), double rollers, rotating mops, flexi side brush and flexi side mop, hot water mop washing and even a self cleaning dock. Mine is dedicated to kitchen, breakfast room and laundry. What attracted me to the Q Revo S was more pa (7,000) instead of 5,500 for the regular Q Revo. It does great! Feel free to ask more questions

In my experience the obstacle avoidance is pretty acceptable, but you might want to consider the Q Revo S that’s on sale in Amazon? Supposedly it will replace the regular Q Revo, it’s only a 30 dollar difference with coupon, and it’s 7000 pa

Actually the obstacle avoidance is better, I recommend you research it, but the Q Revo is good.

I never had an S7 max ultra, but Ido have an S 8 Pro ultra and a couple of models of QRevo… I have 3 golden retriever, 4 cats and 4 kids. In my opinion I would return it and get the QRevo Master instead if your main concern is pet hair, just because it has 10,000 pa, double roller, self cleaning dock and extending brush and mop, or the Qrevo S, no double roller but 7000 pa has also made a difference. The technology of the Qrevo is newer in my opinion, easier dock to clean. Feel free to ask any questions

Love the master! Have had all the other ones and this one made a big difference. I have 3 golden retrievers, 4 cats, 4 kids. The Q Revo Master has taken it all.

You’re absolutely correct… I am just head over heels in love with the Q master lol! Can’t wait for your review of it!!

Recently got the Roborock QRevo Master and so far love it. It is my first robot vacuum so I don’t have anything to compare. That being said I have had friends who have earlier generations of robot vacuum and say that they are just floor dusters but the QRevo really is effective at keeping the kitchen and breakfast areas (high traffic) really clean. I run it every night at midnight. As far as home assistant integration there is a HACS and I am able to pull sensor data but I have not been able to get things like maps etc. I would like to be able to get it to vacuum after we leave the home as part of the away mode but have not gotten that far.

I just got the Roborock QRevo master. So far it seems to be doing a good job with a variety of floor types including hardwood.

Roborock Qrevo Master does both, camera and audio calling the robot. Also has a pet finder option. Happy to answer other questions if you have

So, I have always been a roborock fan. I have the S6, and this year, I upgraded to the Qrevo Master. I use the Master on hardwood floors and tile. It's great for those applications. I have it mop the hardwood on the lowest water setting, which dries almost immediately. My floors are clean and show no signs of damage. It's great at avoiding most obstacles. It's not so great with cords. I only have one on the ground for our lamp... it will identify one portion of it and then roll over the next portion of it. Granted, it only gets tangled 2x a month on average. But it's enough to be frustrating. Most other features are top of its class. Mop self-cleaning, auto empty, the mapping features, and the app overall.

I'm going to be biased since I own (and love) two Roborocks. I have an S6, which I recently moved to the second floor and upgraded to the Qrevo Master. My downstairs is all tile/hardwood, and the Master does an incredible job. The app is easy to navigate and very intuitive. The suction power is great. The robot is quiet. I do keep my floors tidy, but I have a cord that runs 10' or so to plug in one of our lamps. It's only gotten caught on it two times in the 2 months it's been running. I do hear great things about Dreame - but can't contribute anything. I would avoid shark based on most of the feedback I see in these forums. Edit to talk about hair entanglement - I have a short haired dog and a long-haired roommate, and the Master seems to handle the hair, no problem. While I perform regular maintenance, I do not have to cut (much) hair from the roller. We're talking a few strands, if any. The S6 wraps hair around its roller for fun, so improvements have definitely been made.

I can't comment on the Dreame, unfortunately. I can tell you that I got the Qrevo Master over the holidays (as an upgrade from my roborock S6) and can give you an honest review. It is exceptional at mopping and vacuuming. Primarily hard wood/tile floors. Our dog eats wet food and makes an absolute mess of it. The vacuum/mop makes it look like the incident never occurred. We only have a small rug, which it seems to handle with 0 issue. My girlfriend has long hair, it's constantly knotted all through my S6. I picked up the Qrevo, and there was not a single piece wrapped around either brush. Cons... object detection. Specifically wires. Seems to ID them about 50% of the time? Still proceeds to run into them. I've set up no-go zones so she doesn't interact with the mist problematic wires. It consistently identifies items like shoes and successfully avoids them. Overall, I would highly recommend it. I've been loyal to roborock for a long time. I recommend checking out vacuum wars as well. I watched it religiously when picking out a vacuum. Either way I'm sure you can't really go wrong!

I have one and it handles my hair + our cats hair really well. We order the replacement roller and clean off the little rotating arm frequently. But it has never stopped up and not worked mid sessionbecause of hair. But I make sure to check it every once in a while to clean the hair off the rollers

I just got one of these and have had problems every time it’s been used. It’s new… so I’m giving it time. But it has sucked up electrical cords, gotten stuck under the couch (which it went around the first two times it vacuumed that room, so I have no idea why it tried to go under this one time), and it can’t dock itself about 1/2 the time. I’m assuming this is all due to the newness of it and we’ll sort these issues out. But it sure is frustrating to pay this much for a robot vacuum only to have to babysit it constantly.

Update (in case anyone is following my whinging). I’ve had the robot for another week and have worked out kinks. Figured out the docking issue! I have very low pike carpet but it was causing an issue with docking if I had the mop heads installed. So I put the docking station on a thin plastic desktop protector. Like a thick placemat. It’s larger than the docking station and gives the robot and the dock a “hard surface” to be on while docking. It has worked great. I’ve had to create some “no go” zones, like behind an armchair and under the couch, because it kept getting stuck. But otherwise it’s doing great.

Curious why you think no one would use the AI cleaning feature. I've only had this for two weeks but I just set it to run in the smart AI plan every night on my two rooms that need it and it does a great job.

I figured it on the fly adjusts suction power, does the proper coverage if an area is dirty, and it calculates the best route.

I second the earlier response. Have a Roborock Qrevo Master. It’s great. It definitely makes the tile look cleaner and removes footprints , light dirt, and the like, but it won’t get up anything that’s dried to it like yogurt, fruit, tomato sauce, bbq sauce, etc. A steam mop works very well for those cases, so I still hand steam mop 1-2 times per month.

The Roborock Qrevo Master absolutely has mop extension capability equivalent to MopExtend.

The MOVA P50 Pro Ultra will be miles better than the Roborock QRevo master at self-cleaning the mop washboard and at anti-tangling with its main TriCut and lifting side brush. It will also be better at preventing moisture from entering the vacuum compartment as it can lift its main and side brush, which will mean less maintenance and cleaning needed in the long run. I think you should run it on the CleanGenius or regular vacuum first and mop mode. If not, moisture from the mops will enter the vacuuming compartment and make mud that is annoying to clean. If running it on the regular vacuuming first before mopping mode, set the mop clean settings to the deepest cleaning setting and set it to clean its mops at the highest possible frequency (either by room or once every 10sqm). Since you mentioned having shedding pets, do set the auto-empty frequency to be as often as possible. The Roborock also lacks a good side brush and mop extension algorithm as good as Dreame's, but the spring on the extended mop is less stiff, making it more suitable for quarter-rounded floor moldings. Regardless of the model, you must tap out the filter once every few cleaning tasks, but after each cleaning task with the first few times with your robot. As far as I am aware, only the X50 Ultra has the filter self-cleaning capability, where air from the base station blows away any dust stuck in the filter. Il MOVA P50 Pro Ultra sarà decisamente migliore del Roborock QRevo master nell'autopulizia della lavasciuga e nell'anti-groviglio, grazie alla spazzola principale TriCut e a quella laterale che si solleva. Sarà anche migliore nell'impedire all'umidità di entrare nello scomparto dell'aspirapolvere, perché può sollevare la spazzola principale e quella laterale, il che significa meno manutenzione e pulizia a lungo termine. Ti consiglio di farlo funzionare prima in modalità CleanGenius o aspirapolvere normale, e poi in modalità lavaggio. Altrimenti, l'umidità dei moci entrerà nello scomparto dell'aspirapolvere e formerà del fango difficile da pulire. Se lo fai funzionare prima in modalità aspirapolvere normale e poi in modalità lavaggio, imposta le impostazioni di pulizia del mocio sul livello più profondo e imposta la pulizia dei moci alla massima frequenza possibile (per stanza o ogni 10 mq). Visto che hai detto che hai animali domestici che perdono pelo, imposta la frequenza di svuotamento automatico il più spesso possibile. Al Roborock manca anche un buon algoritmo per la spazzola laterale e l'estensione del mocio come quello di Dreame, ma la molla del mocio esteso è meno rigida, il che lo rende più adatto ai battiscopa arrotondati. Indipendentemente dal modello, è necessario battere il filtro ogni tot pulizie, ma dopo ogni pulizia le prime volte che si usa il robot. Per quanto ne so, solo l'X50 Ultra ha la capacità di autopulizia del filtro, in cui l'aria della stazione base soffia via la polvere incastrata nel filtro.

The dreame L10S Pro Ultra Heat is really nice with long hair with the TriCut brush and the TriCut brush cover but will get hair tangled in the side brush but this is easily removable. QRevo Master will have hair stuck on sides of brush but all-rubber brushes are also pretty good at resisting tangles on the brush. I think the Q Revo Master would be better than this specific dreame model at obstacle avoidance but you’d still have to tidy up wires and what not as roborock likes to have the wires take off its mops for some reason.

After daily vacuuming then mopping, my hardwood floors became notably softer and had a shine. I’d recommend robots with roller mops or spinning mops. For roller mop robots, I’d recommend the eufy S1 (Pro), eufy E25/E28, MOVA Z50 Ultra, and the Narwal Flow. All of these robots except for the eufy E25/E28 will have good obstacle avoidance. For spinning mop robots, I’d recommend dreame/MOVA robots with the AceClean/jetspray dryboard, the Narwal Freo line with an all in one base station, the roborock qrevo line. If obstacle avoidance is important, I’d consider the Dreame L40S Pro Ultra, L/X50 Ultra and the Narwal Z/Z10 Ultra.

Nah, the MaxV actually appeared before the Pro which was launched few months later. We can't actually say older or newer, since the lineup just has different models with varying features, but they were not launched at the same time. From entry to top of the line in ascending order: Qrevo, Qrevo S, Qrevo Pro, Qrevo MaxV, Qrevo Master. Sometimes the pricing don't exactly reflect that, and some variants are not available in ervery country. It depends on local market. But the higher model has everything the lower has, plus some extra features. Flexi mop arm and hot water washing is from Pro upwards, which I consider useful for edge cleaning and better cleaning efficiency. Camera and voice assist is from MaxV upwards, which I consider gadgets that don't make the floor cleaner.

Q(X)revo is an excellent entry level active mopper. A huge upgrade to an S5. Welcome to the world of active scrubbing and autonomous washing with water management. You will enjoy it.

All MaxV models, plus Qrevo Master which is an exception to the naming conventions. The camera isn't just for better obstacle avoidance. It can be used to transmit live video feed to the mobile app. The newer models can do AI based object identification. Although I highly doubt this will result in better cleaning performance. Agreed on the Eufy. If poop avoidance is a must, the Eufy S1 Pro is probably the recommendation. Dreame could be an alternative. Roborock is not on par with these.

For this budget, S8 Max Ultra or Qrevo Master. They are both good moppers, but have limited dustbin capacity. So if your dog is really shedding furballs, I would consider a vaccuum only robot with huge dustbin like Q8 Max+ or even larger on the Q5 Pro+, although the latter has no active obstacle avoidance. The perfect all in one robot does not exist. There's too much compromise due to the limited space and size constraints.

Look at alternatives to Roomba, such as Dreame, Eufy, and Roborock. Roomba has fallen far behind the compition. Take a look at Vacuum Wars for their ratings of the best robot vacuums, https://vacuumwars.com/best-vacuum-cleaners/robot-vacuums. There are multiple options at various price points, depending on what features you want. I own a Roborock S8 Pro Ultra and Roborock Qrevo Master, and had a Roomba S9+ prior to these.

Out of those two, the master is the better option. The l10 is a bit old compared to the master. The Master is a great robot vacuum other than its object avoidance which roborock struggles with general but it will be better than the l10 due to the age of the l10. If the Mova P10 pro ultra or Dreame x40/L40 is available at the same price, it would be the better choice due to its superior object avoidance and edge cleaning while being slightly worse at vacuuming.

In terms of performance for value, the Roborock Qrevos are good. I don't have experience with other brands so there may be better options. I like the Qrevo Pro for the money. The Qrevo Master has the dual roller brush which is a little better and it the arm extends to get debris out of corners better. The Qrevo Edge has more suction and the divided brush, which I believe is even better than the and it has more suction, which may not matter much. I got the Qrevo Pro for \~$550 on sale. The Edge is about twice the price right now. I would like the extra features, but not for 2x the cost. Maybe wait until the Prime day to see if they go on sale? The Mova P10 Pro Ultra looks similar to the Qrevo Master, but it has only one roller. So maybe better than the Qrevo Pro, but not as good as the Qrevo Master? It seems to be priced about the same as the Qrevo Pro. While I like the Roborock Qrevos, I would prefer to have a robot that vacuums up dirty water and cleans the mop as it goes.

Not sure that I would go back to roborock again, pretty disappointed with my qrevo Master since he got entangled all the time (cables,cat toys). My simple Dreame D9 has no such issues

I have a roborock Qrevo Master and it ignores most obstacles. I have set a bigger no go area around pet food and other regions where it goes havoc.

Got a roborock Qrevo Master which is somewhere between 800-1200€, object avoidance sucks and is no better than a 200€ model I would never again spend so much on a robot

Yes,it is. It creates strange patterns when it recognises obstacles where there are actually none, existing ones are ignored. Just freed my Qrevo Master again from a cord. Can't just start the robo and leave,75% chance he'll find something to get stuck

I have the master on wooden floor, gets entangled by cables or cat toys under the sofa 3 out of four cleaning runs

Dreame D9 with no fancy features at all is so much better at avoiding cat toys and cables. Our Master gets stuck every second run, quite disappointed. On the other hand, I pick up and clear the house before I start the robo. Not what I expected but alas.

I have it as well as a Q Revo Master. The frustrating thing about the S8 Max V Ultra is that the app will not let me name any rooms. It just assigned names that are not correct and there is no option to change the name. The Master let me edit tha room names easily. Maybe I am missing something in the app but in that case why is it so difficult with this than the Master.

I’m looking forward to your Master review (if you do it)! I’ve had mine about a week now and love it. I’d say the only downside is it doesn’t have the top of the line obstacle avoidance and will plow over cords, but it still recognizes most objects very well and its vacuuming and mopping is excellent. I also found one navigation quirk that I could see most people overlooking. The carpet sensor will sometimes miss sections of carpet/rugs, and if you have the option “Vacuum Carpets First” turned on it’ll attempt to clean around all those missing sections of carpet, then fill them in last, and this can lead to doubling the cleaning time. But once it properly recognizes and maps carpets it’s very efficient. These screenshots better show what I mean. The first cleaning took about 34min and the second identical cleaning (with carpet fixed) took 17min. https://preview.redd.it/dty8lbh45ped1.jpeg?width=1936&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4db0a17d5318484e1780b02a3790cdae4d0f7e73

I have the Qrevo Master as well and love it, but that’s pushing her budget (even at its lowest price it was $1100 before taxes). Look into the Qrevo Pro, which is $800 on Amazon after applying a $200 coupon. The Pro gets her an extending mop pad to better clean edges, a better dock, and a little more suction compared to the regular Qrevo. Id say don’t go for the regular Qrevo though, if not the Master or the Pro, get the Qrevo S. It has slightly better specs and is a littler cheaper (Roborocks lineup is super confusing). There’s some debate over the rotating mops being better than the vibrating sonic mops, but I think most people like the rotating style better.

It’s the only Qrevo with an RGB camera so I think it has to be related to that. Perhaps the camera detecting objects helps boost its avoidance in addition to the structured light sensor? I’ve noticed my Qrevo Master detects better than my previous Q8 Max+ or Qrevo Pro, but it still hardly detects cables at all. I have a corner with a pile of cables (just moved and still need to hide them) prime for the detecting that it has never noticed, but there’s a single power cable under a piece of furniture that it detects almost 100% of the time, which is so odd to me. I’ve forgotten my phone charger cords on a rug next to my couch a couple times and it’s never detected those either. But most dog toys, my floor fan pedestal, and a few other objects it very reliably detects.

Just got roborock Qrevo master. 24 hours and it’s had 4 blockage errors. Seems to be just clumping and moving per hair rather than vacuuming. Even though dustbin empty is set on max it never empties itself out, it just keeps going even after it’s full and then blocks itself. Have two dogs. Sending this back for sure. Looking for something better even if a higher price point is needed.

My roborock Qrevo Master works great on our hardwood floors. I try to run it twice a day to keep up with my pyr and other dog. I know it's closer to $900 on sale on Amazon but I wouldn't cheap out on it if that's the route you take. It self cleans and empties itself. I've only had to clean up the rubber rollers on it once in two months. We still try to just pick up any bigger hairballs but it's definitely been easier than sweeping and mopping, especially this time of year. https://preview.redd.it/iwgunx0in0ie1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0cdee2318c2ad400b548f99c06a10560708763b My loaf taking a nap before he starts barking at.... something. The robot will clean around him but will snag his tail hair if I'm not paying attention.

Just bought a roborock q revo Master and it’s a dream to not have to think about vacuuming or mopping anymore. It’s amazing and it also doesn’t bump into furniture which will make sure they will not look damaged overtime. Best purchase ever. Maps well too.

I have the Roborock Q Revolution Master and also the Pro. They have these features and are good machines.

I would say anything that has spinning mop heads. They do a much better job actually cleaning and don’t seem to leave streaks. Been pretty happy with the roborock qrevo master.

The Qrevo Master has a lot of good reviews, so I don't think that's a bad option. Roborock has historically been weaker at obstacle avoidance, though, and the Master is no exception. I don't have insight into the European market, but at least on Amazon US, the Qrevo Slim is cheaper than the Master right now. I mention it because it has the first generation of Roborock's new obstacle avoidance and navigation system, which got a very high obstacle avoidance rating from Vacuum Wars, and the Saros 10R (which uses a newer version of the same system) just got the highest obstacle avoidance rating ever from them. The Saros 10R is one of Roborock's new flagships, so quite expensive, but you might give the Slim a look. Assuming the Slim doesn't work out, I think you have to go into purchasing the Master accepting that it's the closest to what you want, but not an exact match. It sounds like you're already used to poor obstacle avoidance with your current robot, and I'm sure the Master would be better than what you have now. If you can live with that, I'd expect you would be quite happy with the Master otherwise.

Of these, the worst mopping will be the Q5 and Q8 robots, which just have stationary pads attached to the back. The S8 also has a pad attached to the back, but includes a scrubbing motion via a plate that vibrates at a high speed. It's better than the Q5 and Q8. The best mopping will be on the Qrevo and Eufy X10. They have spinning mop pads, a dock which refills the water tank on the robot from its own water tank, and also cleans the pads automatically and stores the dirty water in another tank on the dock. Of the last two, each has its strengths and weaknesses. The X10 will be better at obstacle avoidance. The Qrevo is a Roborock, which has a better reputation for quality and reliability than the Eufy, and is also rated a little better than the Eufy at a lot of things: vacuuming performance, mopping performance, etc. It also can swing out one of its mop pads for better edge and corner cleaning, something the Eufy can't do. In some cases, obstacle avoidance is really critical, in which case I'd recommend the Eufy. Otherwise, the Qrevo is likely your best bet.

I recently bought the Roborock Q revo Master. Mostly wooden floors, 3 cats and a long haired dog. Very happy so far.

I waited for the Prime deal days on Amazon to get mine and even then I think it’s expensive. But, I’ve have used it daily since and nothing negative so far. I wouldn’t say the mop function is amazing, but used daily it keeps things feeling clean. Vacuuming is pretty good, but no idea how it compares to the Q8 Max+.

I bought one right after this review 💯 hope it helps a lot with pet hair!

For Long haired people and pets, I’d get any Roborock with a duo-divide roller as they tend to handle that for much longer than conventional setups that most vacs use. I’d say the Soros 10R is your machine, but the mova’s are doing well. Very happy with our Qrevo master.

We recently got a Roborock Qrevo Master and hands down, this is absolutely the best robot vacuum we've ever had. We're amazed how little it gets tangled when vacuuming carpet.

I have the Qrevo Master too. Got it as an upgrade when my S7 Max V died and it's a fantastic upgrade. I especially love how easy the mop tray is too clean vs the Max V. I got it for £800 too so I was very happy with that price for the capabilities.

I have noticed the q revo master obstacle avoidance is good but it’s awful on carpets.

My Q Revo Máster ran over MASSIVE piles of dog poop twice… L40 can avoid almost anything. I’m not sure what’s going on with your l40 but mine navigates fine. For me, it’s almost the exact same as the Roborock.

I returned my Roborock Q Revo Máster because it was awful; I reached out to their support team, not much help. Here is a video as a warning to any pet owners. Go dreame for better overall and iRobot for better support in my opinion. Here are the settings I used for reference: Obstacle Avoidance: On Pet Mode: On

This is the Roborock Q Revo Máster which support recently confirmed is the exact same obstacle avoidance wise as the Q Revo Curve

Like another said, Roombas do still hold the crown for carpet cleaning. But with you only having a single rug you can get a Roborock or Dreame that's still *pretty* good at carpet but beats a Roomba in literally every other way including cost. I'd recommend the Roborock Q Revo Master, it has pretty much every feature you can think of, and great performance and is currently on sale for $899 USD. It also has dual rollers so it's great on carpet.

The Q Revo S is on sale currently for $549 vacuums, mops, and the base empties mops and dries. Pretty much the best you can get for the money.

There really aren't any mop only robots besides the antiquated Braavas which you shouldnt waste your money on. Better to sell your current robot (or use in basement or give to a friend) and upgrade to a Roborock Q Revo master/Curv/edge, Eufy S1, or Dreame L40 ultra (which is cheaper than X40 but performs better)

I feel seen. I've gone through the same emotions. A 1000 dollar robot should have some minimal qualities that just work. I had Dreame x40 and it was impressive but then things didn't work. Too many sensors were wonky. It keeps beeping saying "charging" every few minutes. Didn't warn when it was out of water. Or when dirty water tank was overflowing. The Eufy S1 pro was the best at washing floors with a caveat of it did not go near edges. So I had a strip or 2 inches of dirty floor in the kitchen. Currently landed on Roborock Qrevo master but I learned to adjust expectations. It's first fun run I had to rescue it once and a couple of other times remove a small plastic wrapper that was caught in the roller and making a lot of noise. But it does a decent job. And their app is the best out there. I think this is as good a it gets for this era of robo vacuums. PS - none of them handle rubber mats well and all leave an inch of dirt around it as they try to climb on.

Hello! I completely get you! If you havent owned a robovac I would suggest going for known brands like Eufy or Roborock. I have used both and have 2 pets. Recommendations: 1. Eufy L60: [https://amzn.to/3GjRaLw](https://amzn.to/3GjRaLw) ; it is recommended due to hair detangling tech and surely works on Pet hair! I have tried it myself and a bonus is that it can empty. It is aroun 550 dollars at the min. It has a smaller setup but suction is not that high so if you have a cat or pet with smaller hair it can get tough to pick up at times. 2. Roborock QV: [https://amzn.to/3EEIij1](https://amzn.to/3EEIij1) higher suction and for a roborock very well in the price for 499 dollars for prime members as of now. Roborock qrevo is Great too : [https://amzn.to/42heLVB](https://amzn.to/42heLVB) I recommend roborock due to its suction and the availability of spare parts (other companies make) which are cheap and you can replace brushes etc pretty easily if you dont want to detangle at a later stage. Love their app as well! It's a plus that it has a mop, do note that the cleaning can be a bit noisy and if your pet gets scared easily then might not be great but overall highly recommend the roborock brand. I have tried 2 of these and they last long!

I have a Roborock qrevo master. Works well. Easy to 'deep clean' it (which you will have to do with any of them from my research). The "AI" is not that great, it can think a small leaf is animal poop and avoid it. It also will avoid shoes but occasionally get caught on the shoelace. But I suspect most of them would do that. I watched a lot of the vacuum wars YouTube channel amongst others to work out what I wanted. I love the lidar mapping of my home with the qrevo master! And being able to control it remotely (having the controls and the camera view,) has meant I've been able to drive it out of a stuck location and get it to resume the clean, it got caught between chair legs and a Duplo construction the kids had left out!! Expensive yes. Worth it - possibly. I enjoy it and it certainly gets a lot of muck off the floor that you didn't know was even there! I did consider getting a midrange robot but have actually used /benefitted from a lot of the so-called premium features. I also knew whatever I got I would not replace for many years, so didn't want to regret getting something that was just 'ok'...even though financially that would have been the correct choice. Anyways, I would recommend the robot I've got, the app is good and it seems the robot is physically well put together. Reviews were decent. Happy customer. Now to find a robot mower that can handle my lawn....

I own one for close to 2 months. It's my first time with a rv of this price range. So far, I'm really happy. You made a great summary, which I agree almost in full. I don't have issues with the dust bin. My only issue so far is how the robot does not appeart to properly recognize cables, so it's quite hard to have it do something in my home office. Other than that, it's just perfect

>Hair wrapping around the roller axles is a problem with all Roborock models except the Curv/Edge. Roborock designed a cutting system to cut the hair off the roller axles, but it is not effective in my testing and the older designed roller ends like found on the single roller models are easier to remove for cleaning hair off. System to cut the hair was one of the things that made me consider QRevo Master - as long human hair are all over my Xiaomi 10+'s roller and bearings. If not Master, what other robot will deal effectively with long hair?

After a month of using QRevo Master, I've decided to make a review of my experience with this device. I'm in no way affiliated with Roborock, and I bought this device with my own hard-earned money. Note that I don't have experience with any other robot vacuums of similar prices, I've only owned a very basic model by Xiaomi before this one, so I cannot compare the performance with other models. Pros: The robot feels very smart, navigating around the house with very high precision, slowing down around objects, and never making any contact with furniture, except a couple short pedestals, which it bumped around a few times before realising the situation, and very rarely bumping into them. The vacuuming is very satisfactory, it picks up a lot of debris, dust, dog hair and long human hair, leaving only a few spots in hard to clean carpets. The dual roller brush seems to have superior performance on carpets, and the automatic carpet detection increases the suction power when cleaning them up, very nice feature. The mopping is pretty good, it does a pretty good job of avoiding carpets, and the dirty water tank fills up with filthy black water every time. I haven't used detergent yet, the mop cleanup and pre-washing makes many horrible noises however, akin to someone sucking with a straw from a nearly empty container. This is normal however, in order to properly drain the base, and only lasts a minute. Cons: The UI is abit hard-to-learn, with some weird AI cleaning features that I doubt anyone uses. Even though you can make nice custom cleaning routines, there is no way to assign the same routine in more than one schedule. This is a very big disappointment for me, as I would like the robot to run on a different time on Sundays, which is pretty much impossible, except if I create a second identical routine, which is time-consuming, and not user-friendly. Duplicating/Cloning routines is also not possible. The developers can (and should) very easily fix this in the future however. When using custom routines, the UI doesn't summarize the whole cleaning routine, and will only show the last part of the routine. Every other part will be saved in the history instead. This was quite confusing at first, and you can't see any detected objects from any but the last cleaning part. Routines should be treated as one task in History, and not consecutive several different ones. The robot has missed some objects, getting stuck with a rope and a sock once, I wouldn't say this is exactly a con however, since this failure rate is quite low, and it usually recognizes and avoids them very well. The robot has managed to glitch out, completely ruining the map in the second week of usage, thankfully there are tools to backup and restore the map, making recovery from such incidents very simple and easy. The robot was once unable to properly dock, approaching the base from a very awkward angle and making very weird corrective movements, before backing out, cleaning the sensors on the dock and robot quickly solved the problem. The hair tangles very easily in the brushes' bearings and sockets, even though they claim to be tangle-free (and honestly, the brush itself is nearly always clean of any hair, since it's rubber), the bearings are very quick to become full of stuck hair. Thankfully due to the modular design of the brushes, removing them is very easy and requires no sharp tools whatsoever. The design of the dust bin is, simply put, bad. The dust bin volume can't be fully utilized by the robot, and dust and hair will start spilling out when the bin is at 60-70% full. This is because of the position of the air filter which is quite awkward. You can make a workaround by doing several auto-empties during a cleanup. I could say this is the biggest con so far, cleanup of large areas that get very dirty (dog owners especially), need to have their robot empty the dustbin every 25-35m² (270-380sqft), even with everyday cleaning schedules. Conclusion: I am pretty satisfied with this purchase, although I feel that the engineers and developers have left a few gaps, both in hardware and in software, I wouldn't say they are deal breakers. I won't put an out-of-ten rating, since I havent used any comparable vacuums, but I can say it's pretty good, and I would recommend it. I'd be happy to answer any other questions from potential buyers or owners. Thanks for the read!

Interesting to know. I myself haven't used it at all, since there's no documentation or otherwise explanation on what the robot does with it. I really like knowing what automations do and how they work, and SmartPlan doesn't explain itself at all. I don't really trust the robot on setting it's cleanup settings itself, and I also doubt there's any actual AI involved with it. I understand however that it is a very nice feature to have the robot clean as best as it can without really going in depth into configuring it yourself, which would be helpful for a significant part of the user community. Perhaps I've judged it too strictly, because it's something that doesn't help me personally.

Exactly, however, the AI obstacle detection on this device, is actually AI. The app overuses the "AI" word in several places, even in carpet detection. I mean, come on, it wasn't "AI" that figured where the carpet is, it's a simple ultrasonic sensor. That's why I also doubt that "SmartPlan" uses any AI at all.

Yes! I listed every con I could find, but I mentioned that most of them have easy workarounds. They definitely did not disappoint me that much, they should be noted however. Even though the Cons list I made is quite large, they are indeed barely noticeable and rare, which is why I would in conclusion, recommend this robot. They are not deal-breakers, and the majority of other robots suffer from these as well.

Thanks for the input. You can solve the self emptying frequency issue by using routines! You can tell the robot to clean a room (or even an area) and then return to auto-empty. I have split my house into two distinct room-cleaning tasks, and it does an auto-empty in between (you can also tell it to *not* auto-empty between cleaning tasks in the routine editor)

That's very nice! HA's native integration with Roborock was one of my buying points, but I chose not to go into details about it, since it doesn't reflect the usual every-day user. You can indeed create awesome automations and features with it, but it's a result of our own tinkering, and not something Roborock provides on its own. However, I should note that these integrations are also a big pro for the consumers that are already using such systems. I would be very happy to see an option to also locally control the robot in the future, which is probably too much to ask at this point I guess :)

I haven't tried it because my house only has one such crevice which doesn't really get dirty. I might try enabling it and sending it on a few test runs. I suspect it uses its AI camera to detect them, and I'm pretty sure it's very sluggish, hence why it's still in the lab:)

Thanks for the input. Note however, that I'm not talking about compressing any dust or fur in the bin. I'm talking about utilising the whole space in it. The robot has a (I think) 220ml dust bin, but it will start overflowing into the brush compartment way before it fills this space. If you examine the contents of the dustbin when it starts overflowing, you will see a space of around 60ml being completely empty, and the robot seems to be unable to utilize it, due to the design of the airflow in the dustbin. This makes the QRevo Master dustbin's actual effective capacity quite underwhelming, but you can sort of work around it by making a few more trips back to the docking station.

Indeed, cable detection (especially in a carpeted or otherwise noisy environment), is not very good. But it's still better than nothing. As I say, obstacle detection gives the cables a chance of survival! My old robot would give no second chances, and has actually destroyed a couple good USB cables that fell off my tables. Perhaps they're trying to give us the incentive to finally make good cable management in our offices haha :)

Thanks for the input, I haven't used the device long enough to have so much guck stuck in the dirty water bin. I did notice that it might be a bit tricky to cleanup, but I've only rinsed it so far, and it hasn't started smelling at all yet. I have seen reports of this water smelling much worse when detergent is used, which is attributed to bacteria decomposing. You might be able to get around this issue by cleaning it more often.

It's not really that difficult, they can put a simple light sensor in the brush compartment near the bin, and a small led light opposite of it. When it gets obstructed, it means the robot is full and dust is starting to "spill" out. It's gonna cost us even more $ though :p And the prices on the flagship robot vacuums are already in the extremes.

Honestly, detecting a lodged item that stays lodged for more than a couple seconds, sounds like a nice side-effect feature-bug :p I'm sure there are good solutions, however they all affect the $ And it's not really really needed, since you can just time your auto-empties properly.

I would try an entirely different WiFi, perhaps make a hotspot with another smartphone or bring the device to a friend's house. Narrow it down to either the device or your network.

Thanks for the input. This is the first robot vacuum I have that has any object avoidance, so I couldn't really compare it. My previous robot would absolutely devour anything that was not heavy enough to move it's bumper. So in my experience, it's obviously better than nothing. I have also noticed a bad performance with wires, but it does quite well with other kinds of objects.

I would certainly look into the not being able to dock thing. Mine only had trouble docking twice, and it's been nearly 6 months now.

That's very good to hear. It does take a bit of trial and error until you get these robots to work like they should, but after you've set it up, it's usually foul-proof.

^ this. Wait for the sale when it goes back to $999. Best Vacuum and Mop combo out there. Also rated the best by vacuum wars.

Look at the RevoQ Master. If I recall correctly, the differences are: it has the dual spinning mops instead of the vibration and it doesn’t have the cleaning solution dispenser. Current price is $1,099.

I bought a Roborock qervo master on sale last fall. It is saving my sanity and hardwood floors. It does an OK job on carpet (I only have entry rugs), doesn’t get tangled fur or human hair, and does a very good job mopping. I vacuum stairs and inaccessible areas every few days and my floors are carefully vacuumed and mopped every 2-3 weeks. Otherwise the robot runs at least once a day to deal with fur and grit. I have a pretty active lifestyle with lots of dirt trail walks in a climate that has quite a bit of rain (I also have a messy kid). Pre-run the floors will feel gritty under foot. Post-run you can run a damp hand on the floor and not pick anything up. Definitely get one with a mop function if you don’t exclusively keep your dog on grass! The fur is annoying but the grit is what destroys your floors.

Here is my review of the S8 MaxV Ultra. https://youtu.be/CmWjtQRcG4s You should compare that to the Qrevo Master if you want corner cleaning ability with the swing out side brush. I have not reviewed that one just yet.

The Master has the same object avoidance as the MaxV which is not the best for sure. I think your issue with the carpet recognition will solve itself in time as long as you are not moving rugs around. I have the Master and soon will begin testing it. With me starting to branch out into robot mowers I have found myself getting behind in my vacuum videos a bit.

As someone who reviews robots for a living I think you did a really good job. I don't mess with routines in the way you do so learned a bit from you on that. Hair wrapping around the roller axles is a problem with all Roborock models except the Curv/Edge. Roborock designed a cutting system to cut the hair off the roller axles, but it is not effective in my testing and the older designed roller ends like found on the single roller models are easier to remove for cleaning hair off. As far as the badly designed dustbin you are spot on. It is also way too small especially for people with pets and or carpets who might want the Master for dual rollers only to be stuck with a dustbin that is simply too small. You can set the auto empty frequency in the app to high, however this only works in Vac & Mop mode (not vac only mode) and only after 30 minutes have passed. If it goes back to wash the mop pads after 29 minutes of cleaning it will not empty the dustbin, but it will the next time it returns so set the mop washing frequency to the lowest setting if this matters. Your solution is another workaround and likely better for some with fury pets. Roborock still makes some of the best quality robots on the market with frequent firmware updates, stable software and excellent navigation (not including object avoidance).

Hey Chris, I just confirmed with Roborock there is no difference in hardware so it must be firmware related I have the master, but have not tested object avoidance yet.

I just updated the firmware on the Qrevo MaxV today and I'll test tonight to see if it is improved. I just found out today that I have a bad dock with the Master. Won't do anything but charge the robot.

The obstacle avoidance works better on hard floors than carpets which is why most people that review on YouTube praise the Master. They never test it on carpet. Out of all the Qrevo models the Slim has the best object avoidance due to the inclusion of the front facing lidar. No robot on the market is perfect and the real weakness with Roborock is with object avoidance mostly with cords. With that said it accels with dependability, overall performace, near perfect navigation and has the best app on the market. Here is how I tested the Master and the full results of the object avoidance test. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNNffT9q_jc&t=292s

It is a very basic system which has not improved much from when it was released which is a hardware limitation. I find the reason you often get mixed reviews has more to do with a lack of understanding of object avoidance which is only designed to pickup and avoid items on the floor that are lower than the lidar on the decklid. You can see the Pro (which has the exact same Reactive Tech object avoidance as the old Q Revo and the Qrevo S) can only really avoid the cup which all robots even with no object avoidance are able to do [in my latest review video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSMqTKFj-aQ&t=74s). I always recommend picking up before sending any robot out. If object avoidance is very important the S8 Series is a good bit better than the Q series. [In my review of the S8 MaxV Ultra](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmWjtQRcG4s&t=444s) you can see how much better it performed than the Qrevo Pro and even the Qrevo MaxV which lacks additional sensors found on the S8 MaxV. If you have pets that have accidents in your house do not rely on a Q Revo to avoid it.

I am testing the Q Revo Master and it got an above average score on the OA test (10 out of 12) compared to the Q Revo and Q Revo Max V (both 4). It seems to have similar hardware as the MaxV, updated firmware? Is it rolled out to all previous Q Revos if so?

UPDATE: Thanks for all of your great comments. After (more or less) confirming that the Q Revo MaxV and the Q Revo Master have the very similar hardware, and that they both use "Reactive AI," I could not find any logical reason why the Q Revo Master would be so much better than the Q Revo MaxV at Obstacle Avoidance (10 to 4 in our tests) So... I decided to update the firmware on my Q Revo MaxV, as it has been a few months since I tested it (the firmware was updated from version 02.30.38 to 02.33.02). The results were amazing. The Q Revo MaxV got 8, not as good as the master but WAY better than the previous test. It changes a lot in terms of how I rank the latest Roborocks, Ill do a video on it soon.

I am testing the Q Revo Master and it got an above average score on the OA test (10 out of 12) compared to the Q Revo and Q Revo Max V (both 4). It seems to have similar hardware as the MaxV, updated firmware? Is it rolled out to all previous Q Revos if so?

I am testing the Q Revo Master and it got an above average score on the OA test (10 out of 12) compared to the Q Revo and Q Revo Max V (both 4). It seems to have similar hardware as the MaxV, updated firmware? Is it rolled out to all previous Q Revos if so?

UPDATE: Thanks for all of your great comments. After (more or less) confirming that the Q Revo MaxV and the Q Revo Master have the very similar hardware, and that they both use "Reactive AI," I could not find any logical reason why the Q Revo Master would be so much better than the Q Revo MaxV at Obstacle Avoidance (10 to 4 in our tests) So... I decided to update the firmware on my Q Revo MaxV, as it has been a few months since I tested it (the firmware was updated from version 02.30.38 to 02.33.02). The results were amazing. The Q Revo MaxV got 8, not as good as the master but WAY better than the previous test. It changes a lot in terms of how I rank the latest Roborocks, Ill do a video on it soon.

The Q Revo MaxV has a camera though, and it wasn’t nearly as good.

I have had excellent results with Roborock S8s and Saros 10R with Home Assistant. All of my Roborock app routines were fully integrated into Home Assistant as entities. Now I can run every aspect right from Home Assistant, and by extension, through Alexa using voice routines. This is fantastic! I have used other robovacs with home assistant, but I have never had them integrate so well! Since Roborock robovacs are the only thing I am qualified to talk about, I will make some suggestions. I, personally, would avoid automatically detangling roller brushes. They do detangle very well. But they do not clean as well, especially with lots of pet hair and on rugs and carpets. The dual roller systems take a few minutes to maintain, but they clean much, much better than the single split roller systems that auto detangle. Personally, I would seriously consider something along the lines of a Roborock Qrevo Master. It is a great compromise between dock automation and good vacuuming ability. It has the dual rollers systems for excellent vacuuming, a mostly automated dock, but it does make some compromises. It is a bit more than you want to spend. But it is an excellent system that offers a lot at a much lower price than other models.

I have had to improvise two ramps in my home for our S8s. It was easy to do and they even look pretty good. If you are creative, this will not be a problem. The shape of your apartment will not make a difference. Both moving around your house and mopping consume very little battery power. The single biggest power requirement is vacuuming. I always tell anyone who asks me what to get to start with a basic, charging dock only S8 for $350 and learn how it works and how to use it to your advantage. Then get something fancier later on. You will be very glad you have the S8 when you buy a fancy one from any manufacturer and find out how mediocre they are at vacuuming. Then, like our own Saros 10R, the fancy one will be relegated to mopping only while the S8 (in our case, two of them) does all the vacuuming. A happy balance between the S8 and the Saros 10R is the Qrevo Master. This does not apply to any other Qrevo model!!!!!!!!! It is not as fully automated as the Saros 10R, but it is still fairly automated and has the rear spinning mops. And it is the only Qrevo model that retains the vacuuming module of the S8 for excellent vacuuming. My neighbor bought one and she loves it! If I wanted to buy another robovac right now, it would be the Qrevo Master. I wish I would have known about it when I bought our Saros 10R. It would fit our needs much better and costs $700 less than the Saros 10R. I hope this helps! One more thought... All the manufacturers and review sites test their robovacs with cereal, coffee grounds and other household items loosely sprinkled on various surfaces. This stuff is easy to pick up. The real test is if you leave this stuff on the ground for half of a week and let it get well trampled into your rugs and carpets. Then test the robovacs!!! This is the real world testing I use in our home with very heavy foot traffic, people with long hair, cats, a litter box and constant dirt and debris being tracked through our home.

We have a pair of base model S8s ($350 each) with only charging docks, and a Saros 10R ($1500). I can easily live without my Saros 10R. Losing an S8 would be tragic! The 10R is very impressive and very automated in every area except vacuuming on rugs and carpets. It is a mediocre vacuum cleaner at best. It does not vacuum any better than a cheap Home Depot off-the-shelf model. The S8s are vacuuming monsters on rugs and carpets. Our house gets lots of foot traffic, there are people with long hair and two cats and a litter box. Everything gets trampled into the rugs and carpets. The S8s were life changers. The Saros 10R has become a very fancy and expensive mop. If you only have hard floors, almost anything will work and do a decent job. This gives you much more flexibility. I would recommend a compromise since you might end up with carpets. The Qrevo Master ($800) offers the spinning mops of more modern and fancier models. It has a very automated but not super automated dock that does most things but not all of them. More importantly, it keeps the dual roller vacuum module of the S8s for excellent vacuuming. The down side is that you will have to spend about two minutes doing some very easy maintenance on it occasionally. It also does not have the extending side mops and it isn't as slim at a Saros. I really wish I would have purchased a Qrevo Master over our Saros 10R. Our neighbor has one and it is fantastic. It would have served my needs much better than the Saros 10R and I could have saved $700. Expectations are the biggest issues new robovac owners have to overcome. For $1500 we want a miracle! No robovac can do everything, none of them are perfect, and there are no miracles. A $350 robovac will change your life completely. The extra $1150 will just get you a little bit more. But a fancier, automated robovac will not necessarily clean better. All robovacs can do is handle about 90% of your floor cleaning needs. They cannot do everything no matter how fancy and how expensive they are. But 90% is a lot and you will be amazed at the results! There is also a learning curve. One has to learn how to use them for their strengths and overcome their weaknesses. Because of all of this, I always suggest people start with a $350 model. They are truly amazing! Save the $1150 for the next robovac once more improvements have been made in a year or two and you know how to use one and what to expect. All robovacs, no matter how fancy and how expensive, are very primitive machines. They look and feel complex. But they just are not. Lastly, the only reason to consider the fancy new navigation systems is if there might be pet waste in your home. If a robovac cannot avoid this mess, it will become a disaster. Lidar navigation is really good. The fancier, newer systems are very slightly better at obstacle avoidance, but they are not perfect either. Lidar works great and is very, very reliable. Unless you have to worry about pet waste or similar messes, there is no reason to even consider a navigation system beyond lidar. There is no additional benefit. I hope this helps!

i bought the master a month ago and sadly it has already stopped working :( tried to fix it, but looks like we'll have to send it back to roborock i do agree, it was pretty amazing when it worked though!! hopefully yours lasts longer lol

Have the qrevo master and it's really a game changer. Best roborock vacuum IMO

Master is terrible. Don’t get a roborock for hard floors please trust me on this. Either dreame x40 or eufy. Master will be a mistake if u care about obstacle avoidance, and a good clean

This is completely untrue. I am simply a person who feels as though the tech on the master was sacrificed for profit. In fact the reviews on the master were so bad that they had to add reviews from the s8 maxv ultra. I had a good experience with both roborock and dreame. However, I will never buy a roborock again. Obstacle avoidance was something that I thought didn’t matter. It does. In fact roborock has released 5 revo models this year if that doesn’t tell you something about their priorities then I don’t know what will. You shouldn’t have to pick up every damn cord in your house to run a cleaner. And every sock and every towel and every other random thing that’s in a house

Please head this advice. The master will crap the bed and you will be out of a return window

You won’t get honest answers from this sub it it terrible and you should get the x40 I am biased because I’ve actually owned a master for 6 months

Exactly what I meant thank you for saying it for me. That’s why I own an.x40, and threw my revo in the trash. I was referring to roborocks obstacle avoidance

That’s the experience. I recommended buying an x40 ultra from Dreame (basically same company, but longer time making robots) and finally being satisfied with your robot. This will be downvoted so whatever. My experience with the master is the same as yours

Roborock is trash at obstacle avoidance go with Dreame, have had a q revo master. Roborocks plan is to flood the market Dreame focuses on making their products better. Dreame x40 ultra has been the best purchase of my life. Got it on eBay refurbed for 699$ on black friday

I bought a Qrevo Master and I’ll never go back. It is so useful. Saves us so much time and our floors have never been cleaner.

Same thing happened with me on the dirty water! I used to think that I only wanted a realllllly good vacuum from a robot vacuum. When I got the Qrevo Master, I found out that the mopping feature helps pick up dirt and debris that the vacuum missed which made the floors cleaner than a vacuum only robot. That might seem straight forward, but I just wasn’t anticipating the mopping feature to make that big of a deal in terms of getting the floors clean. I was so wrong.

I have had a Qrevo Master for about 2 months now and I agree with everything, but will just say that the cons you list are hardly noticeable for me. I don’t use routines. I just use a simple clean/mop nightly schedule and it works great. I never have to touch the thing unless a tank is full/empty or if the dust bin fills up. The razor blade makes long/large hair tangles very manageable without tangling up although some hair does build up in the areas you describe. I just plan to clean the robot out about once a month to remove any build up which already aligns with the sensor cleaning schedule.

Canada here too! After some research, I decided on Roborock. From reading online these seems to be the drawbacks according to several people: non-existent customer service apparently, object avoidance -so if your sis very lazy to pickup things or got pets in the house. I was about to buy from Costco the Narwhal because of Costco return policy...but they cancelled the order so ended up getting The Roborock Qrevo Master because I wanted the mop functionality. If Vacuum only, Q5 max+ seems to be the popular choice.

Roborock/dreame/mova have robots with extendable side arm to clean corners. Im using roborock qrevo master and Im happy with it.

Seriously tho, my old eufy L60 clearly and significantly outperforms a brand new Roborock Qrevo MaxV from Costco, in picking up pet hair from carpet and staying tangle-free.

Not an expert about what might be good in your price-range but you definitely want something with the rubber rollers, NOT bristles. Probably also have to forgo a mopping feature unless you get a huge sale as you're looking in a pretty low price range for robot vacuums (unfortunately they're pretty expensive!). Vacuum Wars is a great resource. We have the Roborock QRevo MaxV and it works pretty well but it's quite a bit more expensive (cost us $1000 in Canada). Mediocre on carpets but great on the vinyl floor. No matter what you choose you will still need to do a good full vacuum once per week or so but it makes a huuuuuge different for day to day maintenance and how much hair is floating around running it every day.

I’ve owned two iRobot i4’s and an iRobot Braava Jet for four years. I decided to upgrade to an iRobot Combo J9+, but wanted to be sure it was the right choice so also bought a RoboRock QRevo MaxV. I cannot emphasize enough how much better the RoboRock is in every single way compared to the iRobot. I’m absolutely a convert and will likely never consider an iRobot again unless they fully restructure their lineup and technology - which is unlikely given the current financial situation of the company.

After going through 5-different cleaners over 4-years each with its own unique issues & headaches I recently bought the RoboRock Qrevo MaxV and it been absolutely perfect so far. $1,000 at Costco vs $1,400 on Amazon.

We have two roomba vacuums that work well but if your budget is $1000 I HIGHLY recommend the Roborock qrevo maxv (or whatever the non Costco equivalent is). It’s a mop/vacuum with a warm water wash station that has clean and dirty water containers so it washes the mop heads and continues to mop. It’s amazing! One of my favorite purchases ever.

I run it 3-5 x per week. I can’t rave about it enough. The dirty water tank is soooo dirty every time, even with just water. We have a dog too and she tracks in mud and it works perfectly to clean that up. And it’s super easy to clean, the filter tray comes out and the mop heads can be washed in the washer. I have multiple sets so I always have a clean set. It does a great job of navigating obstacles and the map it’s made is super comprehensive but I have a routine where I pick up all our rugs, our island chairs, ottomans, etc to make sure it’s super clean. But it’s not necessary to do that!

100%. I bought mine at full price but it was on sale recently!

Are you saying you can use a $50 coupon at Costco? I just bought the Qrevo MaxV for $850 ($300 off) They’re also selling the QX Revo for $500 ($250 off)

Are you saying you can use a $50 coupon at Costco? I just bought the Qrevo MaxV for $850 ($300 off) They’re also selling the QX Revo for $500 ($250 off)

Is there a reason why the Curv got beat by the Master for mopping? Makes you wonder if the extra vacuum power it says is worth it. Was it just because of the automated detergent? Trying to decide between them both and we have a lot of tile and a little carpet/medium rug.

The q revo master has been doing pretty well at avoiding cables. Sometimes the mop gets stuck and the mount comes off but a lot less than my s7. Vacuum wars on YouTube also rated it the highest for avoidance with AI and its cameras

Unfortunately, I don't think the Q Revo Master is available in Oz yet (Aussie myself - Brisbane). Q Revo MaxV is though.

How good is RoboRock about returned goods? My Q Revo Master is also crumbling due to thin cheep plastic shell and limp wristed plastic water feeder tubes that keep loosening. It’s turning into a zip tied Frankenstein monster…

Just bought the Q Revo Master for $950. Feels like an absolute steal in terms of value. At this price, give me the Master over the S8 MaxV all day long.

This is my first. My wife and I have struggled finding the time to vacuum and mop the house and especially now that we just had our first baby and she’s starting to crawl, it’s even more important. This will help keep our floors clean and save us time.

I have the dreame ultra heat and the q revo master, the ultra heat sounds and works a lot better than the q revo master, the only win with the q revo is the extendable arm… its not worth the extra money… the app with the dreame ultra heat is amazing aswell.

yeah you're right hair tangling isn't much of an issue even when i hand-held vacuum, just hair clogging and lots of lumps... matter-enabled is an IoT standard, but it's not a deal breaker, it means, in the future, i'll be able to control the vacuum using Apple HomeKit (dreame, roborock all support this standard). aha, yeah i keep hearing good things about this qrevo mop, and tracking in dirt is an issue for me (but also all this hair since there's 2 of them).. i'll add one vote to the **Q Revo Master** thanks!!

yep seen your mopping comment, it's one of the reasons I'm leaning towards the qrevo master. nah my dogs are trained, no turds, but there're pet toys all around the house. i'll check out his channel, thanks for the link! i've usually just watched vacuum wars.

Have a look at the Q Revo Master. I just picked one up on prime day at a discount but still think it’s a very good robot at the regular price. Lots of flagship features and the spinning mops (which I prefer).

It’s definitely a very interesting proposition price-wise vs the s8 max ultra. My experience so far has been nothing but excellent. It has a slightly inferior object avoidance system (never been an issue for me) and a lower mop rise (10mm vs 20mm) which again has been non issue with my rug set-up.

Yes I have a Q Revo with the most basic obstacle avoidance and it helps quite a bit. It stays away from socks and dog toys, the larger most common things. I only wish it was better with cords, but the updated models are better with that

Some is better than nothing at all. Their MaxV models have the strongest object avoidance, and benefit the most from updates as well. I recommend watching the latest VacuumWars video on the Q Revo Master, and he actually apologizes because he originally said the Q Revi max v wasn't worth it due to the bad object avoidance. However he learned there was an update, and after that it was a night and day difference. It's no different to any other computer, first couple months or so are always the toughest. After an update or two they are significantly better.

I got the Master Qrevo and a Saint Bernese with ultra long hair. We got just 1-2 single hairs in the brush as it got a knife installed that cuts the tangled hairs from time to time. Mopping is superior! Heard the Tricut brush from Dreame isn’t the best. Newest option would be the Roborock Curve with the 2 Splittes brushes maybe. But the master got good discount these days because of the IFA fair.

I recently purchased a QRevo Master and Pro during Black Friday. I replaced a Roomba J7+. I’m fairly happy with the mopping functionality but the obstacle avoidance is…a fraction as good. I assumed with all the tech and AI it would be better or at most marginally worse. But it’s really night and day. The J7 was excellent at avoiding even the smallest out of place objects, a sock, a cord, etc. I know commenters will say to just keep things off the floor. But I bought these things to vacuum when I’m out of the house. The was great with the j7. Everything just feels clean when you get back. These Roborocks on the other hand will just pick up any loose object and drag it around for 30 minutes. A sock, a shirt, a small box. Also if you happen to be walking around while it’s running the vacuums will bump into your feet repeatedly. I’ve seen some discussion of this, but reviewers like vacuum wars still give these a 4.7 for obstacle avoidance. I would say it’s like a 3 at best. I’ve also seen some discussion of it being better on previous firmware versions. I’m curious if that’s true. I’m hoping I can be optimistic a software update could improve this. It seems like the hardware should be more than capable, but it’s just not stacking up right now

I’ve just got the qrevo master and it has issues with shag pile like this , I think the ai believe it’s an object to avoid so it spins, Ive turned the camera on and it sees long strands so I’m assuming it thinks it’s an obstacle, with avoidance off it actually works , but it still struggles and you can see it get stuck a lot and tug itself free, The side brush gets stuck sometimes too, honestly I love my big fluffy rugs but if I want a robot I’m going to have to replace with shorter piled ones.

I live with 3 girls with long hair, 3 cats and a Bernese mountain dog so I can relate with this 100%. I have to maintain the robot regularly, releasing hairs from the main roller and extending brush weekly. The time I spend maintaining it is a lot less than what I’d spend vacuuming and cleaning so it’s no big deal. 5 minutes a week is nothing. I do wish the small wheel was removable so I could clean it and free it of hair instead of cutting in and around it but beyond that it’s all good (QRevo master)

My QRevo master is so stupid with object avoidance. My Dreame L40 navigates like a tweaker looking for copper though.. no logic to it

I was watching just a dad with his dreame x40 ultra app and with that robot you can designate ramps on the map. While I had my qrevo master I never saw any settings like that in their app.

Agreed. Qrevo Master's obstacle avoidance is absolute trash. It may as well not exist at all. I had Narwal Freo Z Ultra before this and I kind of regret returning that and getting this. The only thing I hated about the Narwal was not having an onboard water tank and not having extending floor sweeping arm, but obstacle avoidance on it was top notch. Never got stuck on anything. Qrevo is so dumb in comparison. Even if it detects something, it will still push it around because it has no clue where the obstacle exactly is. Having to get all the cords, objects off the ground is no different to what I was doing when I was using 1st gen xiaomi robot vac. I ran the vacuum this morning after I left and made sure to clean up everything from the floor but somehow this damn thing got something stuck in its main brush. Seriously frustrated with this product.

The Master is great, just got it recently! Might snag another for upstairs. Enjoy not having to clean as much manually, lol

Not entirely sure tbh, I didn't do any kind of dedicated or no-go zones - I just let it loose and move anything out of the way that I think may be a problem or that I simply want to clear the floor so it cleans that area (shoes, a cable, etc.). I'd assume that even if something is mapped, it still runs detection and will clean the area that is now 'clear' but used to be 'occupied'.

I’ve had my qrevo master for a week so far from an expert. I upgraded from an e4 and the obstacle avoidance seems to be the same. It’s grabbed cables from walls and keeps assaulting my guitar stand for some reason. Never missed a dog toy or something sitting in the middle of the floor though.

Did it get fixed after the recent update? I got my qrevo master yesterday and flexy arm worked when i first mapped and cleaned at the same time but hasn’t worked since. I turned on the lab feature after the first map and clean and also for some reason there are two settings for flexy arm and they say the same thing?

QRevo Curv is the #1 vacuum on Vacuum Wars right now. Was recently on sale and will probably go on sale again for Black Friday. Mine has been great since I got it a couple weeks ago. If you want a less expensive option the QRevo Master is very similar for a few hundred less.

Same one here. Super happy with it. I had no idea how dirty our floors were. They looked clean. We dusted and mopped. We had a Shark IQ. We thought they were clean. But nope. They were gross. For the first 2 weeks the waste water from the Roborock looked like thick mud. Now it's just mildly cloudy. Our floors look way different. Like they had just been honed (that's a thing you do now and again with stone floors - don't ask - its a horrific procedure).

The mob flexi arm always works but the sweeping thingy is lacking behind… I have a Qrevo master and MaxV and the master only uses his brush when cleaning an outer wall

I got Master like 3 weeks ago and its perfect for me. I have chairs with small aluminium legs and my old Dreame L10 Pro didnt notice them and he was bumping like idiot into them. I have hard floors and it avoids every dog toy and sends you a pic of it on your phone. Mopping is also amazing. So far, im very pleased.

I used it for a few weeks and it was really great! I returned it and bought the QRevo Master and the performance is very similar. The mop doesn’t lift as high which could be an issue depending on rugs/carpets in your home. The object avoidance has been roughly the same as well, no issues aside from one cord and even the s8 maxv had an issue with it as well. Vacuuming/mopping is excellent on both models with no noticeable difference. Both were able to complete my torture tests with 100% efficiency 😂

Yep! I still love my QRevo Master but in real life testing, I think the newer QRevo Slim has better object avoidance (very, very slight edge)

Master.

I think it mops better but honestly can’t go wrong with either. I think looking into the QRevo Slim would be worthwhile though.

For what it worth, I can tell you I just bought the qrevo master and I'm super happy with it for now. I have 2 cats and my wife and I have long hair, so, lots of hair everywhere! It work really well and hair do not tangle on the brushes BUT they do tangle at each ends of the brushes. They've put 4 tiny razor blades there to avoid this, bit it doesn't seems to work. Or maybe the purpose of these blades is to avoid that too much hair get stuck there, but still leave some...I dunno. But beside this, it's really great so far

I love my Qrevo Master. My only complaint so far is that I can't program it to empty its onboard dust bin often enough. I end up having to set separate tasks for each room to force it to empty between each one.

For others arriving late, we got the Qrevo Master to wrangle the hair from our two golden retrievers. It does great on the hard floors, but leaves small clumps of hair on the fuzzy mid-height area rugs we have (as FairneasDoctrine11 mentioned above). Our best guess is that the hair is hanging up on the mop heads, then getting pulled off them when Rocky starts on the rug. So we have to vacuum those after Rocky finishes, which kinda defeats the purpose of a robot vacuum! It's definitely keeping our house cleaner with less effort overall, but that includes our manual labor. 😩

Same story. Replaced j8+ (costco's version) with qrevo master when moved into hard-floored place and needed mopping feature. I immediately noticed how bad obstacle avoidance is on the master compared to j8. iRobot was a no-brainer in this part. No prep is needed. Just hit the button and it vacuums everything and avoids every small item like a phone cable or a sock. No idea how the heck it has such good reviews on Youtube.

Just bought the Qrevo master and so far it looks good, but its only in use for a month now

I just posted this on another roborock thread, but: I have the Master and it gets fucking stuck on everything. Kids matchbox cars? Sucks em right up. Wife's socks? Gobble gobble. Electronic cords? Nom nom nom. It's still a great 2 in 1 but I will agree that obstacle avoidance on this thing blows. It's no better than my 2010 iRobot Vacs

Master uses rotating pads the S8 vibrating. Obstacles avoidance on master uses camera but no 3D laser, on max 3D laser but no RGB camera. I would bet even like this it’s better on the max you can check video reviews for q Revo maxv which uses the same system as master. Dock on master is easier to clean. That’s about it

I have a Qrevo (not the master, just one of the OGs I think) and I haven’t really had a problem. I’ve had it a year, I run it daily, and I can count on one hand the number of times it’s eaten cat toys. The only consistent issue I have with it is that I have a blanket with fringe and if the fringe hangs too far off the couch onto the floor the Qrevo will get tangled in that. But that’s genuinely the only issue I’ve had with obstacles.  I also have a Q8 Max upstairs on carpet and that sumbitch craves toy mice. Nothing can sate its bottomless appetite for cat toys. Idk if it’s the carpet or the model but it’s a consistent issue. (Still better the roomba I had up there before tho.) The path finding on the Q8 is great, but it refuses to avoid the cat toys. 

I can at least help with some of the Qrevo’s based on my own research I’ve been doing for this sale. Like you, I was replacing an older Roborock and didn’t want to go too high but still wanted some nice features. I ended up focusing on the Qrevo S, Qrevo Plus, and Qrevo Pro. They all are very similar, same 7000 pa suction, same 10mm mop pad lift, same object avoidance tech (which tbh isn’t that great from the reviews I’ve seen but I usually pick objects up that could get caught so it doesn’t bother me), mostly same dock capability with auto empty/mop pad washing and drying. The differences are with the mopping and they are minor but it depends how much you value the features that would be included. Qrevo S: The base model, everything as described as above Qrevo Plus: adds the flexible mop arm that offers better edge cleaning Qrevo Pro: adds the flexible mop arm AND has hot water mop pad washing and intelligent dirt detection that can sense when the mop pads are dirtier than normal and will wash them extra If it was based solely on just sale price, I would have gotten the Plus for myself. I value having the flexible mop arm to get the most coverage possible. But I was able to get a Pro for an even better deal through Target with coupons so that’s the one I went with. I’ve seen that the hot water wash and intelligent dirt detection are a little gimmicky, but ultimately it was primarily about the mop arm for me and I chose the Pro because I could get it for a better price. Hope this helps!

press the edit button on the map and you'll be able to define the cleaning order. I did it with a Qrevo Plus.

My Roborock quervo that I got two weeks ago has been incredible. We had a shark matrix because it didn’t have bags, but made a compromise to upgrade. It is like watching a Zamboni drive across the floor when it is mopping.

I have a roborock revo with a dock.  The thing I don't like it that there is no setting for "go empty in the dock after x minutes" like there is for the mop. So to deal with this, I created a routine for each room individually.  It then empty after each rooms. Do that once a day, and no clogs.

Same. I got it a few months ago and my floors are fucking awesome now.

I have a Roborock Q revo and I'm loving it :)

Same, and it has been worth every penny for us!

Roborock Q Revo is IMO the best price/performance ratio while shipping with most flagship features, esp. the self-emptying station that also cleans and dries the mops.

I had one of the higher end Sharks, can't remember the model, and I thought I liked it. It touted laser mapping, advanced schedules, etc. But then I got the Roborock Q Revo and it absolutely blew me away; made me realize how shitty the Shark was. At every level it's better: primarily it cleans way better, but also the app is better, it's actually easy to get replacement parts, and a ton of minor things that make it feel polished, like the robot will announce on its own device speaker what's happening, like why it got stuck or why it's returning to a dock. Contrast this with a few friends of mine that have even worse vacuums than the Shark: theirs get stuck all the time, can't find their way home to the dock, they end up not using it at all. Long story short, based on my experience it's absolutely worth spending good money to get a good robot vacuum.

I have a Roborock Q Revo in our 2 adult household and love it. I sweep out the corners occasionally since a round vacuum obviously can’t get into a 90 degree corner, but I don’t have to vacuum or mop anymore unless I just want to. My MIL also bought the same model, and they have three dogs in their home. One of whole sheds A LOT. He’s a corgi/lab mix and blows coat like a dandelion. It keeps up with all their hair, just needs more frequent dust bag replacements. It is so worth buying the right kind and getting a quality robot vacuum/mop. The cheap ones simply aren’t worth it. My father has a roomba (to excuse himself from ever actually cleaning) and it is awful. It will run over the same piece of hair multiple times without picking it up and then straight up avoid a certain dirty spot on the floor repeatedly. It runs on a random track of going until it bumps into something and then goes a different direction. He has also had problems with the batteries crapping out constantly and needing replaced because the capacity deteriorates so badly. The Roborock goes in a pattern; first does a perimeter sweep then goes in a grid pattern of vertical then horizontal rows. The Roborock takes floor plans of your house so you can select individual rooms for cleaning. There is a spot cleaning feature as well where you can drop a box to enclose a specific area that needs cleaned. You can set up scheduled for it to keep your house maintained and ignore it beyond weekly maintenance. I dump dirty water, fill the clean water, and wash mop heads once a week. I love it and would never buy anything else. Especially a Roomba.

We have the Roborock Q Revo and it's a workhorse.

Got the same one, for 400€ it's great! Navigation is awesome but it indeed just won't detect cables… The ones that can automatically search for your pet and allow you to see it while further controlling the robot remotely are pretty cool, but it's not really a big deal to not have that feature.

I love the vacuum, but getting it to integrate with HA is a pain. I wish it was just plug and play.

I got it set up once, but the only options were basically to start (clean the whole house) or to stop. No ability to clean just a room, or to change the cleaning type. I just went to uninstall and reinstall, and now I can't even get it set up. When I try, I get a message "No device found within your Roborock account".

Agreed, it's awesome! Mopping great if you have any wood. Only downside to the more expensive ones is the lack of camera to detect cords, which isn't a huge deal.

I also purchased one of these and have been happy with it. Does a great job. I recommend watching vacuum wars on YouTube. He purchases every single robot vacuum and tests them all.

I absolutely love my Q Revo. I bought it with intentions of it being supported by Valetudo, but honestly… the app works, the HA integration works. I have a geofence that runs the full vac/mop when I leave in AM thru HA. I trigger a night mop of kitchen at 1am via HA. I have automations that notify on the TV when the buckets need to be filled/dumped. I’m planning to 3D print replacement buckets with auto fill and dump — this is my only issue… needs that water and dumping based on size of house and how often you run the mop.

If I were buying today, I would focus on one that fills/dumps the water automatically. I have the Roborock Q Revo and it is solid… I just have to dump/fill the tanks after about three mops. I’ve got all the parts in my Amazon cart to automate this. My hesitancy has been about how much automation/metering do I want and how much safety net do I want!!

The Revo for me too! Using the HACKS roborock integration that works with Xiaomi!

Not so plug and play then

Just an observation, doesn't mean it's not easy or doable. Just means it's not plug & play in terms of what that actually means. Plug & play means in this case that you add the vacuum to HA and it immediately fetches all available information including created routines. All you then need to do is to show that information on a card for example. Just pointing out what the term means. Looks like it requires a bit of effort to get going, which doesn't mean it's going to be hard, but it means it's not p&p. Apologies for the seemingly snarky remark.

Saw a few posts from people cursing how difficult it was to include routines, and how much yaml was necessary to make it all work. I'm talking mopping intensity, vacuum power, what rooms to do in which order and so on. I just gave up mentally before I looked into it more. You're saying it's easy, should I look again?

The Q Revo has been perfection for us

Probably close to a year. Filtered tap water

Qrevo and qrevo pro are awesome!

Roborock Qrevo is expensive but works very well. We have two long-haired dogs who can shed a third dog before noon. The Qrevo sweeps and mops. We usually run it in the morning and again in the evening.

I'm using Roborock Qrevo right now. The price is budget-friendly, and the integration is native (support local based on the document). 

I had the roborock qx revo and had to return it after 5 months (Costco)I keep getting lidar cleaning errors. The self emptying never worked well. My parent have the s2? Roborock and has been great even after 5 years (but there’s doesn’t do combo mopping and vacuuming). I’m not sure if I would buy a combo mopping and vacuuming robot next time.

I bought a new roborock qrevo with mop function last year from Costco and we used nightly (have a messy toddler) and the lidar stopped working after 6 months. Emptying the dirty mop wear container was also terrible as it smelled terrible! The auto empty would also jam regularly. My parents have an old roborock s3 I believe that’s 7-8 years old. It was one of the first ones with a mop function and they never use the mop function. There’s works great. So I’m not sure if the mop function really does work for longevity purposes.

To really get value out of a robotic vacuum the key is to not buy the cheapest or second cheapest option. Get a vacuum with radar or LiDAR with room mapping. I have a Roborock QRevo with the mop option and I really, really like it. I’m able to map rooms, even on different floors, control both vacuum and mopping levels, and easily fence off areas and objects including setting up custom cleaning routines for a room or multiple rooms. Whereas I also have the base model Roomba and it only vacuums and crashes about my house like a drunken fool. It has very limited radar sense and relies on bumpers to “feel” its way around. I’m not saying no to the Roomba brand only that a cheap base model of any brand has big drawbacks. You can often find really good deals for Roborock on Amazon. Just use camel camel camel to price watch and alert you.

I was in the same boat, but with Black Friday sales both the roborock qrevo (refurbished)and dreame l10s ultra (new) are available for $359. For that price it’s hard to justify spending 2-3x as much for a few extra features which don’t seem to make a huge difference in the actual functionality of the product. I bought a l10s ultra and hope to not think about it again for at least a couple years.

I have a Q Revo that I'm not the happiest with (not great suction, mopping is decent, and obstacle avoidance is terrible) and like you, I was planning on replacing it with an S8... until I saw the Kickstarter for the S1 Pro and instantly backed it. Seems to address all of my complaints and can't beat the price ($899!). I plan on doing a review when I get it next month.

I'm of the opposite opinion and my reasoning is this: when you run these robots on a daily schedule, there's never times for stains to set and get as stuck on as they do in that german video. Another thing is, with the eufy if you spill something, or just want to do a cleaning after cooking something, it's super simple and quick to just walk over to the base, press the play button and have it do a quick run. With my Q Revo I have to go find my phone, open the app, select a mode, and then click start. It's more involved and requires enough steps that I often forget to do it until later on. What I think the eufy needs that would help a lot with really stuck on stains though, is a deep mopping mode where it increases water usage. I suspect that will likely get added with a future update. Regarding the non-lifting vacuum roller, from all of the reviews I've seen it doesn't really get dirty unless it goes over a wet mess that has chunks in it like tomato sauce. But even then, from the reviews where I've seen it pickup freshly spilled milk, peanut butter, etc., the only thing that left (a minor amount of) residue on the vacuum roller was the tomato sauce chunks. Jamie Andrews review will be out in a few days and I'm hoping he tested this more.

Jamie Andrews replied to someone else in this thread saying that his review will be out in the coming days, so we have that to look forward to. I commented above with a counterpoint as to why really stuck on stains aren't super realistic though. I'll repost that here in case you didn't see it: >I'm of the opposite opinion and my reasoning is this: when you run these robots on a daily schedule, there's never times for stains to set and get as stuck on as they do in that german video. Another thing is, with the eufy if you spill something, or just want to do a cleaning after cooking something, it's super simple and quick to just walk over to the base, press the play button and have it do a quick run. With my Q Revo I have to go find my phone, open the app, select a mode, and then click start. It's more involved and requires enough steps that I often forget to do it until later on. >What I think the eufy needs that would help a lot with really stuck on stains though, is a deep mopping mode where it increases water usage. I suspect that will likely get added with a future update. Another good thing with the eufy and its roller mop, is that it also cleans much, much faster than other robovacs since it doesn't have to ever go back and wash the mops. I've seen a few reviewers mention it doing a full clean almost 2x faster than other botvacs. This stood out to me because sometimes I'll put off running my Q Revo solely because I know it can take a while and is loud, which is annoying to hear going for a long time while I'm in the room... and then I forget to run a cleaning session after. 🤦🏽‍♂️

Haha well that's more of a me problem because of my ADHD/ADD. If I don't immediately go get my phone when a spill happens, open the app, switch modes to only do "Kitchen", and start a cleaning, I'll completely forget about it until hours later. Even worse, sometimes I WILL go get my phone, but then get distracted by a notification or text, reply to it, and then lock my phone... without starting the cleaning! 😂 With the S1 Pro's base being at arm level and right between my kitchen/living room, I'd pass it when leaving the kitchen and could easily tap the play button to have it clean everywhere since it has great obstacle avoidance. It seems minor, but the simplicity of that one step process with a physical button and no distractions is perfect for someone like me. With the Q Revo's terrible terrible obstacle avoidance, I can't just open the app and click the big start button without first pre-cleaning and removing any cables from the ground so it doesn't get caught on them (it broke a lamp by doing this before). It's overall a more involved process that I often will put off until later... and forget about lol.

I agree, I have no idea why they’re using such an inferior system on their most expensive bot. Seems a bit lazy of them to not try and innovate like Eufy did. That was me in the Discord, by the way. :) My Q Revo was visibly making my white tile floors looks dingy and dull even with daily 2x mopping using their detergent with max water usage and frequent mop washing. For the past 3 weeks the S1 water has been very dark, but now it’s finally starting to lighten up and the floors look brighter than they ever have before. I truly have never been so impressed.

I'd say you could do even less than u/thisisreadonly2 suggested. I've had my S1 Pro for a month now have done the bare minimum: rinsed off the dirty water tank filter once, rinsed the mop tray twice, and I just cleaned out the vacuum filter today. I've never cleaned out the dirty water tank or even felt the need to since it hasn't developed any nasty smells (the ozonated water really does work at sanitizing!). Same goes for the roller mop, I've looked at it a few times over the past few weeks and it also still looks brand new, so I've never felt the need to clean it myself. Compared to my Q Revo, this is proving to have far less maintenance needed and I honestly abuse this thing lol. This past weekend I had friends over and a few open cans of beer/white claw got knocked over. I put the S1 on the lowest suction (to prevent any liquid from getting sucked into the dustbin, worked great) and it cleaned up all of the spilled drinks perfectly with zero stickiness on the floors. I seriously love this thing.

I have a roborock qrevo vacuum mop. 2 kids and a dog and it works great never had any issues. I also have a sebo corded vacuum for deeper cleans but the robot vacuum helps keeping up

really? it’s been plug and play for me

ah i just made the routines in HA and just call from HA. i don’t use the app

i hear you - my POV, which i realize may not be strictly accurate is that if something can be configured to do complex automations (room cleaning etc) in 15-20 minutes in HA then that counts as plug and play :)

certainly wouldnt hurt! The roborock integration page is (unusually) helpful. With that said, i don'tchange mop intensity or vaccum power with my routines, but that should all be pretty easy. If it doesnt work, feel free to reach out maybe i can help!

I'm not sure what is actively considered a top vacuum but something I've learned the hard way is to make sure the robot has a setting to empty the dustbin periodically or else it will go through a whole run, then try to empty the dustbin and the charging station will get clogged trying to suck the large clump of hair into the dust bag. I have a qrevo and really love the robot but the fact roborock doesn't currently have an option to empty the dustbin every 100 sqft or so, means that I have had to set up separate schedules for each room so it goes back to the dock to empty the dustbin between each room. It's frustrating.

Totally. Yeah I also hoped they'd update the app to add that but I've had the robot since it first came out a little over a year ago and it doesn't have that yet so unsure if they will ever add that.

The Roborock is a big hit, it's also very quiet (under the 65 dB mark). Also check out the Eufy on this list for under $500.... [https://www.soundproofgenius.com/get-a-quiet-robot-vacuum/](https://www.soundproofgenius.com/get-a-quiet-robot-vacuum/)

Roborock has a good implementation into HA which I've used the past year. Maybe the Q Revo will be something for you? Or a top model like the Sxx versions. I just switched to the eufy x10 pro omni and I'm bummed that there are no working solutions for HA for this model yet :(. I have to use another app like a noob.

Trust me you don’t need to drop $1800 on a robot vacuum. Any decent flagship Roborock will do, S8s or one of the higher end Q Revos. Saros is great but again you don’t really need them. Would avoid the other ones.

Absolutely love ours

I've been very happy with mine as well. I don't want any of the ones with a camera on it, so I'm happy with the Revo's lidar.

This is why I got a Q Revo. It has neither of these features.

We have a q revo and it’s great

No, not really. I do not recommend buying one. I've had a number of bots over the years, currently the original Q Revo is my main bot. Its works well, except for 1) edge mopping 2) cables dislodge the spinning mops. I've had an iRobot M6 since it was first released. Its more reliable, user friendly than the Vortex (and I don't like the M6 all that much either.)

Currently using a Dyson animal 3, and a roborock qx Revo. And an s7 down stairs. Those battery stick ones from Amazon crapped out too fast.

I bought the Q Revo two months ago and kept it for a month. When the Pro version came out, I returned the Revo and purchased the Pro. It's a fantastic vacuum (I upgraded from the S7; I've also owned a Roomba). For me, the Pro was worth the extra cost because of the flexible mop. The regular Q Revo can't get within a few inches of the edge of a wall, and for me, that was important. No other noticeable differences between the two models for me besides the flexi mop. I know the pro has more suction, but that wasn’t a deal breaker for me because my house is 90% hardwood.

I've done a lot of research these past few days and ended up buying a Q Revo (just arrived actually, about to set it up) - but that was mainly because it was on sale and a lot cheaper than the Dreame equivalent (which would be the L10s Ultra). They seem about the same. The Roborock having a better app experience and the Dreame being better at avoiding obstacles. Keep in mind they were both startups funded by Xiaomi really. But yeah, from what I've read people do complain a bit more about Dreame but in general they actually seem very solid. I did factor in that in my country Roborock is still a lot more common so getting bags and the like might be easier.

I have a Q Revo and run 5 days per week and mop 2 days per week. The waste water tank has a bit of sludge when I dump it into the toilet. I rinse it with fresh water and put it back into the base station. If I had my old dogs, I'd vacuum first and mop second on the same frequency. That way, most of the actual dirt goes into the bag, not into the waste water tank. Dumping the water and rinsing the tank is not a big deal. Floor is very clean. One thing I really appreciate is the removable tray in the base station where the bot rests when emptying the first, waste water and cleaning the mop pads. That has to be cleaned. Since it's removable it's easy to clean. If it wasn't removable I'd have to get on my hands and knees to clean

I disagree. Got a roborock q revo with vac and mop, also with a station that washes and dries the mops and it is very good and helpful.

/agree My Q Revo eats them. I just make sure to clear the floor before the task runs and it's all good. Actually got me into the habit of cleaning up on a regular basis rather than leaving a mess for a big monthly cleanup which I dreaded to do lol

This community: Wait, the next model will solve all problems. For what it's worth, we have dogs and I bought a Q Revo last week. Works great. Not 400 m\^2, but 300 m\^2 anyway.

App calls it just Q Revo so I assume normal?

Nope,  nothing changed.

Thank you so much! I decided to go with Roborock QX Revo. It looks very similar? It has the rubber brush, mopping, and self-emptying you mentioned! I think it has a higher suction too. It was a bit expensive, but I got it from Costco which comes with a longer warranty plus accessories. Thank you!

Thank you! I decided to go with Roborock QX Revo. It looks very similar? Roborock seems like a good brand!

And this is for the Roborock QX revo. That’s the vacuum I ended up choosing :)

I love it! It makes a huge difference with the pet hair. My dog sheds a lot. It’s very user friendly (for floor layouts, app, and changing parts like the dust bag) and a massive improvement cleaning from my cheaper robot vacuum. This roborock was a bit expensive for me, but worth every penny! My floors have never been cleaner lol

I hope you love it too! Also, the self-emptying and floor mapping didn’t seem like a big deal to me, but now that I have it, I couldn’t go back. It is so efficient!

That’s the price I paid at Costco. When I was doing research, I found it cheaper on some other retailers, but the warranty isn’t as long (and with Costco I trust them). So I felt good about paying a little more for that peace of mind.

This is cool, but I'm not sure how useful it is. Maybe instead of simply positive or negative, it could drill down into more specific, e.g. "Good for pets?", "Good for carpets", "Easy to maintain", "Easy to use app" etc. For example, the obstacle avoidance in the Q Revo which has the highest rating here is pretty terrible. It will easily drive through pet waste spreading it all over your home and basically destroying the robot. I have two Q Revos, but no pets :)

I'm loving the roborock qx revo from costco right now $499

Love my q revo. If money was no object I might spring for the s8 but I still don't feel like it adds much value tbh Just FYI ebay has crazy deals on official refurbished vacs rn. The q revo was $450 IIRC the s8 was around 740. There were a couple dreame vac/mops for sale as well.

Yep. I dont consider Q revo to have obstacle avoidance. It’s a great robot and I wholeheartedly recommend it to people. But you should basically forget obstacle avoidance with the robot.

I had the Ecovacs X1 Omni and it was a good mop/vacuum overall but the software drove me crazy to the point where I had to return it. I have a Roborock QX Revo now, and the software is way better. I haven't done a side by side to test which was better at cleaning but the Ecovacs either had a way larger battery or used less battery because I used to use it on my second floor (all carpet, except the two washrooms) and would do the 3 bedrooms with two passes and the rest only one pass and it still had battery left. Setting up the Roborock the same way with the same suction setting, I can't even finish the entire floor with one pass everywhere.

As a qrevo owner, I'd get that if you aren't willing or able to find a spot for the auto drain then I'd either reduce the amount of cleaning (or do it when you're not at home). That said spinning heads are very good at mopping and I make sure not to put stuff around since it will get stuck at a left over cable.

Hi all, I’d like to know, is the Reactive AI (with rgb camera) actually much better than ReactiveTech? At the moment I have a Q Revo and it’s quite good, it is able to avoid most of the the objects in my house. But it struggles particularly with “low and flat“ objects. In particular this one, which is similar to a U shaped chair: https://preview.redd.it/suvutwjl6wne1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f064284593fd32eeb31bffbcf7a05b6278d1d89 He tries to climb over, got stuck, then turns back and so on, a mess… Do you think Reactive AI robots like Curv, Edge, Slim or the new Saros could handle this? Can they recognize the obstacle (taking a photo) and maybe you can tell the robot to avoid it at all?

Q Revo has the spinning mop pads and lifts them automatically during carpet cleaning.

So I bought a q revo and dreame l10s and compared them directly and ended up keeping the l10s because it seems to do a better job of mopping (and is willing to mop in skinnier areas of my hard floor around rugs). I don't mind the worse app with dreame, it's completely usable and reliable, just with weird translations. I genuinely like the roborock carpets first feature but I don't miss it with scheduling. If you can afford the l40 ultra, that's what I would buy for the best features (hot water mop washing, self cleaning washboard, water turbidity sensor, mop extend & lifting brush, hair cutting roller). How much more expensive are the premier q revo models in your area (the master, slim, edge, curv)? If theyre the same price (or you can afford the slight increase) I'd get those for the best of both worlds: premier features and the superior roborock app.

More than a vacuum without a dirty water tank, but really not that much. I can’t say I feel a noticeable difference in the time I spend on it compared to the Q Revo and J7 I had before. There are more parts, but the vacuum is designed quite well, so all remove/replace operations are easy. The house is mopped 3x a week and vacuumed 5x/week. This is what I do every weekend: - Empty and rinse the dock dirty water tank, fill the clean water tank, put both back. - Remove the vacuum from the dock. Take out and rinse the mop washing tray. - Take off the top cover. Take out dust bin, bang out the filter, rinse both and leave out to dry. - Take out the dirty water tank, remove the main filter and three small filter plugs, rinse all out and leave out to dry. Flip the vacuum upside down. - Take out the vacuum brush, remove hair from both ends, rinse and leave out to dry - Slide off the mop roller, rinse and leave out to dry - Remove side brushes, remove hair tangles, put back on - After a few hours of drying time, reassemble everything. I also plan to take out and clean the caster wheel once every couple of months, but haven’t gotten to that point yet. So far, these operations take me maybe 15 minutes once a week, probably less.

IMO it never was terrible. Is pretty good at avoiding stuff, I was actually surprised.

+1 for Roborock, the q revo series with the spinning mops and auto docks have been amazing for me. There have a few different models so I'd compare them all but we have the slim and the master and love them both. They often go on sale - I got each of them for 1k or less. I had the s7+ and the mopping was disappointing. I'd avoid any simple dragging mops.

Had the Q Revo from Costco and it constantly got clogged. To be fair, we have a long haired cat too. It started to leak both dirt and water. What I’ve learned is that anything combo, which the Q revo vacuum and mops, does a subpar job at both. Will probably try the shark robovac.

Unfortunately it still accumulates on the vacuum duct and I have to manually pull out the hair clog. I don’t know why it was leaking fluid the other day. I think I’ll just mop separately.

The other problem is removing hair that has become tangled in the roller. You can’t just remove the ends like Roomba.

Yes! Don’t get the Curv plus it’s cheaply built and ugly. The S8 MaxV has premium materials. They are all plastic but the Curv and Q series feel flimsy.

You might not be happy with the build quality of the lower end series like the Q. Stick with Premium. I would get the S series or Saros. The Q series feels very cheap compared to the S plus it can handle the hair NP. It’s a more attractive unit too unless you like a shiny egg that looks like it came out of an 80s movie. lol

The comment about robot vacuums only being for small places is probably based on the old random pattern robots. Most robots now map and do well in large houses. It sounds like most mapping robots would work for you, since you don't want mopping, have hardfloors, and no pets. So anything with lidar (prefered) or vslam navigation. Obstacle avoidance might be a useful feature for cords, shoes, toys etc. left on the ground. It might be worth looking into a Eufy L60, iRobot Roomba j series, Roborock Q series, or shark. I'm biased because I have three robot vacs (Roborock S6, Ecovacs x1 omni, and iRobot Roomba j5+ combo) and my roomba j5+ is the only one that is reliable and working at the moment