Roborock - Qrevo Master

I’ve picked one of these up to replace an s6 max and while it does a lot of things well, the AI seems like a downgrade. Gets stuck on wires and seems to have worse obstacle detection which is very disappointing. Equally Amazon messed up the delivery and I ended up with two for the price of one so I can’t grumble too badly

After a month of using QRevo Master, I've decided to make a review of my experience with this device. I'm in no way affiliated with Roborock, and I bought this device with my own hard-earned money. Note that I don't have experience with any other robot vacuums of similar prices, I've only owned a very basic model by Xiaomi before this one, so I cannot compare the performance with other models. Pros: The robot feels very smart, navigating around the house with very high precision, slowing down around objects, and never making any contact with furniture, except a couple short pedestals, which it bumped around a few times before realising the situation, and very rarely bumping into them. The vacuuming is very satisfactory, it picks up a lot of debris, dust, dog hair and long human hair, leaving only a few spots in hard to clean carpets. The dual roller brush seems to have superior performance on carpets, and the automatic carpet detection increases the suction power when cleaning them up, very nice feature. The mopping is pretty good, it does a pretty good job of avoiding carpets, and the dirty water tank fills up with filthy black water every time. I haven't used detergent yet, the mop cleanup and pre-washing makes many horrible noises however, akin to someone sucking with a straw from a nearly empty container. This is normal however, in order to properly drain the base, and only lasts a minute. Cons: The UI is abit hard-to-learn, with some weird AI cleaning features that I doubt anyone uses. Even though you can make nice custom cleaning routines, there is no way to assign the same routine in more than one schedule. This is a very big disappointment for me, as I would like the robot to run on a different time on Sundays, which is pretty much impossible, except if I create a second identical routine, which is time-consuming, and not user-friendly. Duplicating/Cloning routines is also not possible. The developers can (and should) very easily fix this in the future however. When using custom routines, the UI doesn't summarize the whole cleaning routine, and will only show the last part of the routine. Every other part will be saved in the history instead. This was quite confusing at first, and you can't see any detected objects from any but the last cleaning part. Routines should be treated as one task in History, and not consecutive several different ones. The robot has missed some objects, getting stuck with a rope and a sock once, I wouldn't say this is exactly a con however, since this failure rate is quite low, and it usually recognizes and avoids them very well. The robot has managed to glitch out, completely ruining the map in the second week of usage, thankfully there are tools to backup and restore the map, making recovery from such incidents very simple and easy. The robot was once unable to properly dock, approaching the base from a very awkward angle and making very weird corrective movements, before backing out, cleaning the sensors on the dock and robot quickly solved the problem. The hair tangles very easily in the brushes' bearings and sockets, even though they claim to be tangle-free (and honestly, the brush itself is nearly always clean of any hair, since it's rubber), the bearings are very quick to become full of stuck hair. Thankfully due to the modular design of the brushes, removing them is very easy and requires no sharp tools whatsoever. The design of the dust bin is, simply put, bad. The dust bin volume can't be fully utilized by the robot, and dust and hair will start spilling out when the bin is at 60-70% full. This is because of the position of the air filter which is quite awkward. You can make a workaround by doing several auto-empties during a cleanup. I could say this is the biggest con so far, cleanup of large areas that get very dirty (dog owners especially), need to have their robot empty the dustbin every 25-35m² (270-380sqft), even with everyday cleaning schedules. Conclusion: I am pretty satisfied with this purchase, although I feel that the engineers and developers have left a few gaps, both in hardware and in software, I wouldn't say they are deal breakers. I won't put an out-of-ten rating, since I havent used any comparable vacuums, but I can say it's pretty good, and I would recommend it. I'd be happy to answer any other questions from potential buyers or owners. Thanks for the read!

Thanks for the input. You can solve the self emptying frequency issue by using routines! You can tell the robot to clean a room (or even an area) and then return to auto-empty. I have split my house into two distinct room-cleaning tasks, and it does an auto-empty in between (you can also tell it to *not* auto-empty between cleaning tasks in the routine editor)

I haven't tried it because my house only has one such crevice which doesn't really get dirty. I might try enabling it and sending it on a few test runs. I suspect it uses its AI camera to detect them, and I'm pretty sure it's very sluggish, hence why it's still in the lab:)

Thanks for the input, I haven't used the device long enough to have so much guck stuck in the dirty water bin. I did notice that it might be a bit tricky to cleanup, but I've only rinsed it so far, and it hasn't started smelling at all yet. I have seen reports of this water smelling much worse when detergent is used, which is attributed to bacteria decomposing. You might be able to get around this issue by cleaning it more often.

I would certainly look into the not being able to dock thing. Mine only had trouble docking twice, and it's been nearly 6 months now.

Interesting to know. I myself haven't used it at all, since there's no documentation or otherwise explanation on what the robot does with it. I really like knowing what automations do and how they work, and SmartPlan doesn't explain itself at all. I don't really trust the robot on setting it's cleanup settings itself, and I also doubt there's any actual AI involved with it. I understand however that it is a very nice feature to have the robot clean as best as it can without really going in depth into configuring it yourself, which would be helpful for a significant part of the user community. Perhaps I've judged it too strictly, because it's something that doesn't help me personally.

Exactly, however, the AI obstacle detection on this device, is actually AI. The app overuses the "AI" word in several places, even in carpet detection. I mean, come on, it wasn't "AI" that figured where the carpet is, it's a simple ultrasonic sensor. That's why I also doubt that "SmartPlan" uses any AI at all.

Thanks for the input. Note however, that I'm not talking about compressing any dust or fur in the bin. I'm talking about utilising the whole space in it. The robot has a (I think) 220ml dust bin, but it will start overflowing into the brush compartment way before it fills this space. If you examine the contents of the dustbin when it starts overflowing, you will see a space of around 60ml being completely empty, and the robot seems to be unable to utilize it, due to the design of the airflow in the dustbin. This makes the QRevo Master dustbin's actual effective capacity quite underwhelming, but you can sort of work around it by making a few more trips back to the docking station.

Yes! I listed every con I could find, but I mentioned that most of them have easy workarounds. They definitely did not disappoint me that much, they should be noted however. Even though the Cons list I made is quite large, they are indeed barely noticeable and rare, which is why I would in conclusion, recommend this robot. They are not deal-breakers, and the majority of other robots suffer from these as well.

That's very nice! HA's native integration with Roborock was one of my buying points, but I chose not to go into details about it, since it doesn't reflect the usual every-day user. You can indeed create awesome automations and features with it, but it's a result of our own tinkering, and not something Roborock provides on its own. However, I should note that these integrations are also a big pro for the consumers that are already using such systems. I would be very happy to see an option to also locally control the robot in the future, which is probably too much to ask at this point I guess :)

Indeed, cable detection (especially in a carpeted or otherwise noisy environment), is not very good. But it's still better than nothing. As I say, obstacle detection gives the cables a chance of survival! My old robot would give no second chances, and has actually destroyed a couple good USB cables that fell off my tables. Perhaps they're trying to give us the incentive to finally make good cable management in our offices haha :)

It's not really that difficult, they can put a simple light sensor in the brush compartment near the bin, and a small led light opposite of it. When it gets obstructed, it means the robot is full and dust is starting to "spill" out. It's gonna cost us even more $ though :p And the prices on the flagship robot vacuums are already in the extremes.

That's very good to hear. It does take a bit of trial and error until you get these robots to work like they should, but after you've set it up, it's usually foul-proof.

Honestly, detecting a lodged item that stays lodged for more than a couple seconds, sounds like a nice side-effect feature-bug :p I'm sure there are good solutions, however they all affect the $ And it's not really really needed, since you can just time your auto-empties properly.

I would try an entirely different WiFi, perhaps make a hotspot with another smartphone or bring the device to a friend's house. Narrow it down to either the device or your network.

Thanks for the input. This is the first robot vacuum I have that has any object avoidance, so I couldn't really compare it. My previous robot would absolutely devour anything that was not heavy enough to move it's bumper. So in my experience, it's obviously better than nothing. I have also noticed a bad performance with wires, but it does quite well with other kinds of objects.

As someone who reviews robots for a living I think you did a really good job. I don't mess with routines in the way you do so learned a bit from you on that. Hair wrapping around the roller axles is a problem with all Roborock models except the Curv/Edge. Roborock designed a cutting system to cut the hair off the roller axles, but it is not effective in my testing and the older designed roller ends like found on the single roller models are easier to remove for cleaning hair off. As far as the badly designed dustbin you are spot on. It is also way too small especially for people with pets and or carpets who might want the Master for dual rollers only to be stuck with a dustbin that is simply too small. You can set the auto empty frequency in the app to high, however this only works in Vac & Mop mode (not vac only mode) and only after 30 minutes have passed. If it goes back to wash the mop pads after 29 minutes of cleaning it will not empty the dustbin, but it will the next time it returns so set the mop washing frequency to the lowest setting if this matters. Your solution is another workaround and likely better for some with fury pets. Roborock still makes some of the best quality robots on the market with frequent firmware updates, stable software and excellent navigation (not including object avoidance).

Here is my review of the S8 MaxV Ultra. https://youtu.be/CmWjtQRcG4s You should compare that to the Qrevo Master if you want corner cleaning ability with the swing out side brush. I have not reviewed that one just yet.

The Master has the same object avoidance as the MaxV which is not the best for sure. I think your issue with the carpet recognition will solve itself in time as long as you are not moving rugs around. I have the Master and soon will begin testing it. With me starting to branch out into robot mowers I have found myself getting behind in my vacuum videos a bit.

>Hair wrapping around the roller axles is a problem with all Roborock models except the Curv/Edge. Roborock designed a cutting system to cut the hair off the roller axles, but it is not effective in my testing and the older designed roller ends like found on the single roller models are easier to remove for cleaning hair off. System to cut the hair was one of the things that made me consider QRevo Master - as long human hair are all over my Xiaomi 10+'s roller and bearings. If not Master, what other robot will deal effectively with long hair?

I have had mine for a month, still can’t get in on the network. Tried everything - Making sure its 2,4ghz - Only use alphanumerical in both wifi-name and password - Using airplane mode when going through the connection wizard - Tried using bot iOS and android devices - Tried using the Xiaomi app - Changed DNS to 8.8.8.8 - Changed the router IP - Making sure ACL is turned off Have a 2 week long thread with their support, waiting for feedback on my logs. Anyone got an idea to test since it seems to work so good for everyone else? 😅

Forgot to write that! If I take a second phone and use that as a hospot it works. So it should be something with my network. The problem still persists 🤷🏻‍♂️ I am using Sonos, Philips Hue and several other devices - so the router is not dead - about an year old…

I just got one of these and have had problems every time it’s been used. It’s new… so I’m giving it time. But it has sucked up electrical cords, gotten stuck under the couch (which it went around the first two times it vacuumed that room, so I have no idea why it tried to go under this one time), and it can’t dock itself about 1/2 the time. I’m assuming this is all due to the newness of it and we’ll sort these issues out. But it sure is frustrating to pay this much for a robot vacuum only to have to babysit it constantly.

Update (in case anyone is following my whinging). I’ve had the robot for another week and have worked out kinks. Figured out the docking issue! I have very low pike carpet but it was causing an issue with docking if I had the mop heads installed. So I put the docking station on a thin plastic desktop protector. Like a thick placemat. It’s larger than the docking station and gives the robot and the dock a “hard surface” to be on while docking. It has worked great. I’ve had to create some “no go” zones, like behind an armchair and under the couch, because it kept getting stuck. But otherwise it’s doing great.

I own one for close to 2 months. It's my first time with a rv of this price range. So far, I'm really happy. You made a great summary, which I agree almost in full. I don't have issues with the dust bin. My only issue so far is how the robot does not appeart to properly recognize cables, so it's quite hard to have it do something in my home office. Other than that, it's just perfect

I have had a Qrevo Master for about 2 months now and I agree with everything, but will just say that the cons you list are hardly noticeable for me. I don’t use routines. I just use a simple clean/mop nightly schedule and it works great. I never have to touch the thing unless a tank is full/empty or if the dust bin fills up. The razor blade makes long/large hair tangles very manageable without tangling up although some hair does build up in the areas you describe. I just plan to clean the robot out about once a month to remove any build up which already aligns with the sensor cleaning schedule.

I bought a Qrevo Master and I’ll never go back. It is so useful. Saves us so much time and our floors have never been cleaner.

Same thing happened with me on the dirty water! I used to think that I only wanted a realllllly good vacuum from a robot vacuum. When I got the Qrevo Master, I found out that the mopping feature helps pick up dirt and debris that the vacuum missed which made the floors cleaner than a vacuum only robot. That might seem straight forward, but I just wasn’t anticipating the mopping feature to make that big of a deal in terms of getting the floors clean. I was so wrong.

Curious why you think no one would use the AI cleaning feature. I've only had this for two weeks but I just set it to run in the smart AI plan every night on my two rooms that need it and it does a great job.

I figured it on the fly adjusts suction power, does the proper coverage if an area is dirty, and it calculates the best route.

^ this. Wait for the sale when it goes back to $999. Best Vacuum and Mop combo out there. Also rated the best by vacuum wars.

I bought the QRevo Master for $950 this morning. But I’m easily satisfied with even a basic robot’s vacuuming abilities. I wanted a good mop and obstacle avoidance(kids).

Great to hear! Any tips for the initial mapping? First time having a mapping vac. If I move furniture will it realize and vacuum in the newly opened up spot?

My roborock Qrevo Master works great on our hardwood floors. I try to run it twice a day to keep up with my pyr and other dog. I know it's closer to $900 on sale on Amazon but I wouldn't cheap out on it if that's the route you take. It self cleans and empties itself. I've only had to clean up the rubber rollers on it once in two months. We still try to just pick up any bigger hairballs but it's definitely been easier than sweeping and mopping, especially this time of year. https://preview.redd.it/iwgunx0in0ie1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0cdee2318c2ad400b548f99c06a10560708763b My loaf taking a nap before he starts barking at.... something. The robot will clean around him but will snag his tail hair if I'm not paying attention.

Recently got the Roborock QRevo Master and so far love it. It is my first robot vacuum so I don’t have anything to compare. That being said I have had friends who have earlier generations of robot vacuum and say that they are just floor dusters but the QRevo really is effective at keeping the kitchen and breakfast areas (high traffic) really clean. I run it every night at midnight. As far as home assistant integration there is a HACS and I am able to pull sensor data but I have not been able to get things like maps etc. I would like to be able to get it to vacuum after we leave the home as part of the away mode but have not gotten that far.

I just got the Roborock QRevo master. So far it seems to be doing a good job with a variety of floor types including hardwood.

Hello, my recommendation is the QRevo Master which is more than what you want to spend, but if you wait for a sale I paid around 1000.00 dollars on prime sale. It is everything you want and you will love it. Feel free to ask any questions. In my opinion the spinning mops are the best for uneven floors

Qrevo Master by far, multi pet children heavy traffic household here

For others arriving late, we got the Qrevo Master to wrangle the hair from our two golden retrievers. It does great on the hard floors, but leaves small clumps of hair on the fuzzy mid-height area rugs we have (as FairneasDoctrine11 mentioned above). Our best guess is that the hair is hanging up on the mop heads, then getting pulled off them when Rocky starts on the rug. So we have to vacuum those after Rocky finishes, which kinda defeats the purpose of a robot vacuum! It's definitely keeping our house cleaner with less effort overall, but that includes our manual labor. 😩

I got the Master Qrevo and a Saint Bernese with ultra long hair. We got just 1-2 single hairs in the brush as it got a knife installed that cuts the tangled hairs from time to time. Mopping is superior! Heard the Tricut brush from Dreame isn’t the best. Newest option would be the Roborock Curve with the 2 Splittes brushes maybe. But the master got good discount these days because of the IFA fair.

yeah you're right hair tangling isn't much of an issue even when i hand-held vacuum, just hair clogging and lots of lumps... matter-enabled is an IoT standard, but it's not a deal breaker, it means, in the future, i'll be able to control the vacuum using Apple HomeKit (dreame, roborock all support this standard). aha, yeah i keep hearing good things about this qrevo mop, and tracking in dirt is an issue for me (but also all this hair since there's 2 of them).. i'll add one vote to the **Q Revo Master** thanks!!

yep seen your mopping comment, it's one of the reasons I'm leaning towards the qrevo master. nah my dogs are trained, no turds, but there're pet toys all around the house. i'll check out his channel, thanks for the link! i've usually just watched vacuum wars.

Eufy S1 Pro and Roborock Qrevo Master. Eufy uses a roller mop and can clean and mop the floor at the same time (ensuring the mop stays clean while cleaning). Roborock uses a spinning mop but is also excellent at removing stains. I remember Vacuum Wars had a ranking list evaluating both of them, with Eufy and Roborock being in the first and second positions. They have updates on their YouTube if you want to see more visual results.

I used it for a few weeks and it was really great! I returned it and bought the QRevo Master and the performance is very similar. The mop doesn’t lift as high which could be an issue depending on rugs/carpets in your home. The object avoidance has been roughly the same as well, no issues aside from one cord and even the s8 maxv had an issue with it as well. Vacuuming/mopping is excellent on both models with no noticeable difference. Both were able to complete my torture tests with 100% efficiency 😂

Yep! I still love my QRevo Master but in real life testing, I think the newer QRevo Slim has better object avoidance (very, very slight edge)

Master.

I think it mops better but honestly can’t go wrong with either. I think looking into the QRevo Slim would be worthwhile though.

Just bought the Q Revo Master for $950. Feels like an absolute steal in terms of value. At this price, give me the Master over the S8 MaxV all day long.

This is my first. My wife and I have struggled finding the time to vacuum and mop the house and especially now that we just had our first baby and she’s starting to crawl, it’s even more important. This will help keep our floors clean and save us time.

I have a Roborock qrevo master. Works well. Easy to 'deep clean' it (which you will have to do with any of them from my research). The "AI" is not that great, it can think a small leaf is animal poop and avoid it. It also will avoid shoes but occasionally get caught on the shoelace. But I suspect most of them would do that. I watched a lot of the vacuum wars YouTube channel amongst others to work out what I wanted. I love the lidar mapping of my home with the qrevo master! And being able to control it remotely (having the controls and the camera view,) has meant I've been able to drive it out of a stuck location and get it to resume the clean, it got caught between chair legs and a Duplo construction the kids had left out!! Expensive yes. Worth it - possibly. I enjoy it and it certainly gets a lot of muck off the floor that you didn't know was even there! I did consider getting a midrange robot but have actually used /benefitted from a lot of the so-called premium features. I also knew whatever I got I would not replace for many years, so didn't want to regret getting something that was just 'ok'...even though financially that would have been the correct choice. Anyways, I would recommend the robot I've got, the app is good and it seems the robot is physically well put together. Reviews were decent. Happy customer. Now to find a robot mower that can handle my lawn....

I have the Qrevo Master too. Got it as an upgrade when my S7 Max V died and it's a fantastic upgrade. I especially love how easy the mop tray is too clean vs the Max V. I got it for £800 too so I was very happy with that price for the capabilities.

I have the dreame ultra heat and the q revo master, the ultra heat sounds and works a lot better than the q revo master, the only win with the q revo is the extendable arm… its not worth the extra money… the app with the dreame ultra heat is amazing aswell.

We recently got a Roborock Qrevo Master and hands down, this is absolutely the best robot vacuum we've ever had. We're amazed how little it gets tangled when vacuuming carpet.

Just got roborock Qrevo master. 24 hours and it’s had 4 blockage errors. Seems to be just clumping and moving per hair rather than vacuuming. Even though dustbin empty is set on max it never empties itself out, it just keeps going even after it’s full and then blocks itself. Have two dogs. Sending this back for sure. Looking for something better even if a higher price point is needed.

Same one here. Super happy with it. I had no idea how dirty our floors were. They looked clean. We dusted and mopped. We had a Shark IQ. We thought they were clean. But nope. They were gross. For the first 2 weeks the waste water from the Roborock looked like thick mud. Now it's just mildly cloudy. Our floors look way different. Like they had just been honed (that's a thing you do now and again with stone floors - don't ask - its a horrific procedure).

Unfortunately, I don't think the Q Revo Master is available in Oz yet (Aussie myself - Brisbane). Q Revo MaxV is though.

For what it worth, I can tell you I just bought the qrevo master and I'm super happy with it for now. I have 2 cats and my wife and I have long hair, so, lots of hair everywhere! It work really well and hair do not tangle on the brushes BUT they do tangle at each ends of the brushes. They've put 4 tiny razor blades there to avoid this, bit it doesn't seems to work. Or maybe the purpose of these blades is to avoid that too much hair get stuck there, but still leave some...I dunno. But beside this, it's really great so far

I second the earlier response. Have a Roborock Qrevo Master. It’s great. It definitely makes the tile look cleaner and removes footprints , light dirt, and the like, but it won’t get up anything that’s dried to it like yogurt, fruit, tomato sauce, bbq sauce, etc. A steam mop works very well for those cases, so I still hand steam mop 1-2 times per month.

Master is terrible. Don’t get a roborock for hard floors please trust me on this. Either dreame x40 or eufy. Master will be a mistake if u care about obstacle avoidance, and a good clean

This is completely untrue. I am simply a person who feels as though the tech on the master was sacrificed for profit. In fact the reviews on the master were so bad that they had to add reviews from the s8 maxv ultra. I had a good experience with both roborock and dreame. However, I will never buy a roborock again. Obstacle avoidance was something that I thought didn’t matter. It does. In fact roborock has released 5 revo models this year if that doesn’t tell you something about their priorities then I don’t know what will. You shouldn’t have to pick up every damn cord in your house to run a cleaner. And every sock and every towel and every other random thing that’s in a house

Have a look at the Q Revo Master. I just picked one up on prime day at a discount but still think it’s a very good robot at the regular price. Lots of flagship features and the spinning mops (which I prefer).

It’s definitely a very interesting proposition price-wise vs the s8 max ultra. My experience so far has been nothing but excellent. It has a slightly inferior object avoidance system (never been an issue for me) and a lower mop rise (10mm vs 20mm) which again has been non issue with my rug set-up.

Look at the RevoQ Master. If I recall correctly, the differences are: it has the dual spinning mops instead of the vibration and it doesn’t have the cleaning solution dispenser. Current price is $1,099.

I’m looking forward to your Master review (if you do it)! I’ve had mine about a week now and love it. I’d say the only downside is it doesn’t have the top of the line obstacle avoidance and will plow over cords, but it still recognizes most objects very well and its vacuuming and mopping is excellent. I also found one navigation quirk that I could see most people overlooking. The carpet sensor will sometimes miss sections of carpet/rugs, and if you have the option “Vacuum Carpets First” turned on it’ll attempt to clean around all those missing sections of carpet, then fill them in last, and this can lead to doubling the cleaning time. But once it properly recognizes and maps carpets it’s very efficient. These screenshots better show what I mean. The first cleaning took about 34min and the second identical cleaning (with carpet fixed) took 17min. https://preview.redd.it/dty8lbh45ped1.jpeg?width=1936&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4db0a17d5318484e1780b02a3790cdae4d0f7e73

I have the Qrevo Master as well and love it, but that’s pushing her budget (even at its lowest price it was $1100 before taxes). Look into the Qrevo Pro, which is $800 on Amazon after applying a $200 coupon. The Pro gets her an extending mop pad to better clean edges, a better dock, and a little more suction compared to the regular Qrevo. Id say don’t go for the regular Qrevo though, if not the Master or the Pro, get the Qrevo S. It has slightly better specs and is a littler cheaper (Roborocks lineup is super confusing). There’s some debate over the rotating mops being better than the vibrating sonic mops, but I think most people like the rotating style better.

I recently bought the Roborock Q revo Master. Mostly wooden floors, 3 cats and a long haired dog. Very happy so far.

I waited for the Prime deal days on Amazon to get mine and even then I think it’s expensive. But, I’ve have used it daily since and nothing negative so far. I wouldn’t say the mop function is amazing, but used daily it keeps things feeling clean. Vacuuming is pretty good, but no idea how it compares to the Q8 Max+.

I would say anything that has spinning mop heads. They do a much better job actually cleaning and don’t seem to leave streaks. Been pretty happy with the roborock qrevo master.

The Master is great, just got it recently! Might snag another for upstairs. Enjoy not having to clean as much manually, lol

Not entirely sure tbh, I didn't do any kind of dedicated or no-go zones - I just let it loose and move anything out of the way that I think may be a problem or that I simply want to clear the floor so it cleans that area (shoes, a cable, etc.). I'd assume that even if something is mapped, it still runs detection and will clean the area that is now 'clear' but used to be 'occupied'.

Not sure that I would go back to roborock again, pretty disappointed with my qrevo Master since he got entangled all the time (cables,cat toys). My simple Dreame D9 has no such issues

Look at alternatives to Roomba, such as Dreame, Eufy, and Roborock. Roomba has fallen far behind the compition. Take a look at Vacuum Wars for their ratings of the best robot vacuums, https://vacuumwars.com/best-vacuum-cleaners/robot-vacuums. There are multiple options at various price points, depending on what features you want. I own a Roborock S8 Pro Ultra and Roborock Qrevo Master, and had a Roomba S9+ prior to these.

The Qrevo Master has a lot of good reviews, so I don't think that's a bad option. Roborock has historically been weaker at obstacle avoidance, though, and the Master is no exception. I don't have insight into the European market, but at least on Amazon US, the Qrevo Slim is cheaper than the Master right now. I mention it because it has the first generation of Roborock's new obstacle avoidance and navigation system, which got a very high obstacle avoidance rating from Vacuum Wars, and the Saros 10R (which uses a newer version of the same system) just got the highest obstacle avoidance rating ever from them. The Saros 10R is one of Roborock's new flagships, so quite expensive, but you might give the Slim a look. Assuming the Slim doesn't work out, I think you have to go into purchasing the Master accepting that it's the closest to what you want, but not an exact match. It sounds like you're already used to poor obstacle avoidance with your current robot, and I'm sure the Master would be better than what you have now. If you can live with that, I'd expect you would be quite happy with the Master otherwise.

I’ve just got the qrevo master and it has issues with shag pile like this , I think the ai believe it’s an object to avoid so it spins, Ive turned the camera on and it sees long strands so I’m assuming it thinks it’s an obstacle, with avoidance off it actually works , but it still struggles and you can see it get stuck a lot and tug itself free, The side brush gets stuck sometimes too, honestly I love my big fluffy rugs but if I want a robot I’m going to have to replace with shorter piled ones.

This is cool, but I'm not sure how useful it is. Maybe instead of simply positive or negative, it could drill down into more specific, e.g. "Good for pets?", "Good for carpets", "Easy to maintain", "Easy to use app" etc. For example, the obstacle avoidance in the Q Revo which has the highest rating here is pretty terrible. It will easily drive through pet waste spreading it all over your home and basically destroying the robot. I have two Q Revos, but no pets :)

I love the vacuum, but getting it to integrate with HA is a pain. I wish it was just plug and play.

I got it set up once, but the only options were basically to start (clean the whole house) or to stop. No ability to clean just a room, or to change the cleaning type. I just went to uninstall and reinstall, and now I can't even get it set up. When I try, I get a message "No device found within your Roborock account".

I bought the Q Revo two months ago and kept it for a month. When the Pro version came out, I returned the Revo and purchased the Pro. It's a fantastic vacuum (I upgraded from the S7; I've also owned a Roomba). For me, the Pro was worth the extra cost because of the flexible mop. The regular Q Revo can't get within a few inches of the edge of a wall, and for me, that was important. No other noticeable differences between the two models for me besides the flexi mop. I know the pro has more suction, but that wasn’t a deal breaker for me because my house is 90% hardwood.

I disagree. Got a roborock q revo with vac and mop, also with a station that washes and dries the mops and it is very good and helpful.

The Revo for me too! Using the HACKS roborock integration that works with Xiaomi!

This community: Wait, the next model will solve all problems. For what it's worth, we have dogs and I bought a Q Revo last week. Works great. Not 400 m\^2, but 300 m\^2 anyway.

App calls it just Q Revo so I assume normal?

Nope,  nothing changed.

As a qrevo owner, I'd get that if you aren't willing or able to find a spot for the auto drain then I'd either reduce the amount of cleaning (or do it when you're not at home). That said spinning heads are very good at mopping and I make sure not to put stuff around since it will get stuck at a left over cable.

I have a Roborock Q Revo in our 2 adult household and love it. I sweep out the corners occasionally since a round vacuum obviously can’t get into a 90 degree corner, but I don’t have to vacuum or mop anymore unless I just want to. My MIL also bought the same model, and they have three dogs in their home. One of whole sheds A LOT. He’s a corgi/lab mix and blows coat like a dandelion. It keeps up with all their hair, just needs more frequent dust bag replacements. It is so worth buying the right kind and getting a quality robot vacuum/mop. The cheap ones simply aren’t worth it. My father has a roomba (to excuse himself from ever actually cleaning) and it is awful. It will run over the same piece of hair multiple times without picking it up and then straight up avoid a certain dirty spot on the floor repeatedly. It runs on a random track of going until it bumps into something and then goes a different direction. He has also had problems with the batteries crapping out constantly and needing replaced because the capacity deteriorates so badly. The Roborock goes in a pattern; first does a perimeter sweep then goes in a grid pattern of vertical then horizontal rows. The Roborock takes floor plans of your house so you can select individual rooms for cleaning. There is a spot cleaning feature as well where you can drop a box to enclose a specific area that needs cleaned. You can set up scheduled for it to keep your house maintained and ignore it beyond weekly maintenance. I dump dirty water, fill the clean water, and wash mop heads once a week. I love it and would never buy anything else. Especially a Roomba.

Roborock Qrevo is expensive but works very well. We have two long-haired dogs who can shed a third dog before noon. The Qrevo sweeps and mops. We usually run it in the morning and again in the evening.

My Roborock quervo that I got two weeks ago has been incredible. We had a shark matrix because it didn’t have bags, but made a compromise to upgrade. It is like watching a Zamboni drive across the floor when it is mopping.

I had one of the higher end Sharks, can't remember the model, and I thought I liked it. It touted laser mapping, advanced schedules, etc. But then I got the Roborock Q Revo and it absolutely blew me away; made me realize how shitty the Shark was. At every level it's better: primarily it cleans way better, but also the app is better, it's actually easy to get replacement parts, and a ton of minor things that make it feel polished, like the robot will announce on its own device speaker what's happening, like why it got stuck or why it's returning to a dock. Contrast this with a few friends of mine that have even worse vacuums than the Shark: theirs get stuck all the time, can't find their way home to the dock, they end up not using it at all. Long story short, based on my experience it's absolutely worth spending good money to get a good robot vacuum.

Agreed, it's awesome! Mopping great if you have any wood. Only downside to the more expensive ones is the lack of camera to detect cords, which isn't a huge deal.

Same, and it has been worth every penny for us!

Got the same one, for 400€ it's great! Navigation is awesome but it indeed just won't detect cables… The ones that can automatically search for your pet and allow you to see it while further controlling the robot remotely are pretty cool, but it's not really a big deal to not have that feature.

I have a Roborock Q revo and I'm loving it :)

I also purchased one of these and have been happy with it. Does a great job. I recommend watching vacuum wars on YouTube. He purchases every single robot vacuum and tests them all.

I'm using Roborock Qrevo right now. The price is budget-friendly, and the integration is native (support local based on the document). 

If I were buying today, I would focus on one that fills/dumps the water automatically. I have the Roborock Q Revo and it is solid… I just have to dump/fill the tanks after about three mops. I’ve got all the parts in my Amazon cart to automate this. My hesitancy has been about how much automation/metering do I want and how much safety net do I want!!

The Q Revo has been perfection for us

Probably close to a year. Filtered tap water

Same. I got it a few months ago and my floors are fucking awesome now.

Not so plug and play then

Just an observation, doesn't mean it's not easy or doable. Just means it's not plug & play in terms of what that actually means. Plug & play means in this case that you add the vacuum to HA and it immediately fetches all available information including created routines. All you then need to do is to show that information on a card for example. Just pointing out what the term means. Looks like it requires a bit of effort to get going, which doesn't mean it's going to be hard, but it means it's not p&p. Apologies for the seemingly snarky remark.

Saw a few posts from people cursing how difficult it was to include routines, and how much yaml was necessary to make it all work. I'm talking mopping intensity, vacuum power, what rooms to do in which order and so on. I just gave up mentally before I looked into it more. You're saying it's easy, should I look again?

The comment about robot vacuums only being for small places is probably based on the old random pattern robots. Most robots now map and do well in large houses. It sounds like most mapping robots would work for you, since you don't want mopping, have hardfloors, and no pets. So anything with lidar (prefered) or vslam navigation. Obstacle avoidance might be a useful feature for cords, shoes, toys etc. left on the ground. It might be worth looking into a Eufy L60, iRobot Roomba j series, Roborock Q series, or shark. I'm biased because I have three robot vacs (Roborock S6, Ecovacs x1 omni, and iRobot Roomba j5+ combo) and my roomba j5+ is the only one that is reliable and working at the moment

Is there a reason why the Curv got beat by the Master for mopping? Makes you wonder if the extra vacuum power it says is worth it. Was it just because of the automated detergent? Trying to decide between them both and we have a lot of tile and a little carpet/medium rug.

Qrevo and qrevo pro are awesome!

We have the Roborock Q Revo and it's a workhorse.

Roborock Q Revo is IMO the best price/performance ratio while shipping with most flagship features, esp. the self-emptying station that also cleans and dries the mops.

I have a Q Revo that I'm not the happiest with (not great suction, mopping is decent, and obstacle avoidance is terrible) and like you, I was planning on replacing it with an S8... until I saw the Kickstarter for the S1 Pro and instantly backed it. Seems to address all of my complaints and can't beat the price ($899!). I plan on doing a review when I get it next month.

I'm of the opposite opinion and my reasoning is this: when you run these robots on a daily schedule, there's never times for stains to set and get as stuck on as they do in that german video. Another thing is, with the eufy if you spill something, or just want to do a cleaning after cooking something, it's super simple and quick to just walk over to the base, press the play button and have it do a quick run. With my Q Revo I have to go find my phone, open the app, select a mode, and then click start. It's more involved and requires enough steps that I often forget to do it until later on. What I think the eufy needs that would help a lot with really stuck on stains though, is a deep mopping mode where it increases water usage. I suspect that will likely get added with a future update. Regarding the non-lifting vacuum roller, from all of the reviews I've seen it doesn't really get dirty unless it goes over a wet mess that has chunks in it like tomato sauce. But even then, from the reviews where I've seen it pickup freshly spilled milk, peanut butter, etc., the only thing that left (a minor amount of) residue on the vacuum roller was the tomato sauce chunks. Jamie Andrews review will be out in a few days and I'm hoping he tested this more.

Jamie Andrews replied to someone else in this thread saying that his review will be out in the coming days, so we have that to look forward to. I commented above with a counterpoint as to why really stuck on stains aren't super realistic though. I'll repost that here in case you didn't see it: >I'm of the opposite opinion and my reasoning is this: when you run these robots on a daily schedule, there's never times for stains to set and get as stuck on as they do in that german video. Another thing is, with the eufy if you spill something, or just want to do a cleaning after cooking something, it's super simple and quick to just walk over to the base, press the play button and have it do a quick run. With my Q Revo I have to go find my phone, open the app, select a mode, and then click start. It's more involved and requires enough steps that I often forget to do it until later on. >What I think the eufy needs that would help a lot with really stuck on stains though, is a deep mopping mode where it increases water usage. I suspect that will likely get added with a future update. Another good thing with the eufy and its roller mop, is that it also cleans much, much faster than other robovacs since it doesn't have to ever go back and wash the mops. I've seen a few reviewers mention it doing a full clean almost 2x faster than other botvacs. This stood out to me because sometimes I'll put off running my Q Revo solely because I know it can take a while and is loud, which is annoying to hear going for a long time while I'm in the room... and then I forget to run a cleaning session after. 🤦🏽‍♂️

Haha well that's more of a me problem because of my ADHD/ADD. If I don't immediately go get my phone when a spill happens, open the app, switch modes to only do "Kitchen", and start a cleaning, I'll completely forget about it until hours later. Even worse, sometimes I WILL go get my phone, but then get distracted by a notification or text, reply to it, and then lock my phone... without starting the cleaning! 😂 With the S1 Pro's base being at arm level and right between my kitchen/living room, I'd pass it when leaving the kitchen and could easily tap the play button to have it clean everywhere since it has great obstacle avoidance. It seems minor, but the simplicity of that one step process with a physical button and no distractions is perfect for someone like me. With the Q Revo's terrible terrible obstacle avoidance, I can't just open the app and click the big start button without first pre-cleaning and removing any cables from the ground so it doesn't get caught on them (it broke a lamp by doing this before). It's overall a more involved process that I often will put off until later... and forget about lol.

I agree, I have no idea why they’re using such an inferior system on their most expensive bot. Seems a bit lazy of them to not try and innovate like Eufy did. That was me in the Discord, by the way. :) My Q Revo was visibly making my white tile floors looks dingy and dull even with daily 2x mopping using their detergent with max water usage and frequent mop washing. For the past 3 weeks the S1 water has been very dark, but now it’s finally starting to lighten up and the floors look brighter than they ever have before. I truly have never been so impressed.