Qrevo Plus

For mopping, ideally you will want spinning mop pads and the largest water tanks available (unless you're able to run plumbing). You will likely need to refill the clean water and empty the dirty water tanks daily if the court is regularly used. The Saros 10R has a large clean water tank in the dock but a small on-board tank (65mL vs 80-100mL on other Roborocks) so even though it will do the job, it will also need to dock and refill more often, so probably the least efficient solution with a ton of features you won't care about. The QRevo series is probably ideal. You probably won't care about having the best obstacle avoidance, so even a slightly older one with spinning mop pads will probably be more than enough. I'd probably buy 2 of the QRevo Plus or something similar and have it clean the court from both ends. But really, a consumer robot isn't really the best solution. You will definitely be running these robots to their limit every single day, and you will have a ton of consumable costs.

I also love our Roborock. We have the Qrevo Plus. I have it set to run in the main areas every day at 8am and it's great. It's not PERFECT, but with all hardwood floors, it absolutely keeps the dog hair and floor grit under control.

I have a Roborock QRevo Plus, which self empties and has a mop. I LOVE it. I have a German shepherd and two cats, so there's regularly fur everywhere. Full disclosure that most of my house is hardwood with a few area rugs, so I can't speak to how it would do on carpeting. I especially love that it's really good at identifying rooms (or if you're open concept, you can divide rooms manually in the map) so when I JUST want it to do the living room and dining room, I don't have to run it throughout the whole house. I run the vacuum in the main living areas every morning, and I use the mop feature about once a week. I also have a Dyson cordless for when I want to do a quick tidy or when there's a lot of pet hair.

Seconding, I have the QRevo Plus with a Pomeranian for a couple years and absolutely love it.

I have the Roborock Qrevo Plus, and it has been amazing! I have light colored floors and a black Dane and black Cocker. The robot runs every night and every morning we have clean floors. I have a 8 month old baby who is crawling so am also on the floor a lot and I’m always amazed by how spotless they are! Mapping was quick and painless, and I hardly ever have to intervene or rescue it. I also have a iRobot i3 and it’s a night and day difference. App is easy to use, and we have had it for just about a year and have had no problems. Refill clean water and dump dirty mop water once a week. Obstacle avoidance seems to work pretty well too, no incidents yet!

Got the qrevo plus from target on sale and sadly it just could not keep up with the dirt in my house (3 shedding pets, 3 active kids, 2 adults, and a backyard that won’t grow grass). I went into a dreame store near me and they sold me on the x50 ultra and it is working great for my family. I have some complaints… it’s SLOW to clean. So I run it downstairs while we sleep and all pets are upstairs so nobody can mess with it. The battery life isn’t great, so it has to stop cleaning to charge, but again it’s doing it while we sleep so it’s not a huge issue. I dump the dirty tank in the morning and refill the clean water tank then it’s all set for the next nights run. I usually run it on vacuum only in the middle of the day and it is keeping up way better than our roborock. That being said. I liked the roborock but definitely noticed we are too much for it and I’m going to ship it to my mom bc she’s refuses to buy one for herself.

Looking for a privacy-focused robo-vac in Singapore – why I ended up with the Roborock Qrevo 798 (QR 798) Posting this in case it helps anyone else in SG who cares about both cleaning performance and not having a roaming surveillance camera at home. **Disclaimer: Wrote this with AI cos lazy to consolidate and manually write but fact checked it and essence is there** # What I was optimising for Hard considerations: * Has no RGB / AI camera hardware at all (no pet snaps, live video, or “home patrol”). * Avoids a built-in mic / voice assistant as much as possible * Decent performance - (sorry Matic and Eufy) * Not too outdated - lots of older models have less sensors but then lack performance or need to be imported as refurbished Good to have: * Handles long hair without turning the brush into a bird’s nest (for the girlies out there) * Has official SG support and at least some evidence that the vendor takes security seriously. # Why I didn’t want a camera robot Recent security work on camera-equipped vacuums has been pretty ugly: * At DEF CON 32, Dennis Giese and Braelynn Luedtke showed that multiple Ecovacs Deebot and related robots can be taken over via Bluetooth from \~130 m away; once in, an attacker can turn on the camera and microphone and use the robot as a surveillance device. [Cyber Security News+3dontvacuum.me+3TechCrunch+3](https://dontvacuum.me/talks/DEFCON32/DEFCON32_reveng_hacking_ecovacs_robots.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com) * Reports and follow-ups (TechCrunch, Kaspersky, etc.) highlight that a lot of Ecovacs models with cameras/mics are affected, and that the same Bluetooth/PIN flaws can be abused across a big chunk of their lineup. [TechCrunch+2Kaspersky+2](https://techcrunch.com/2024/08/09/ecovacs-home-robots-can-be-hacked-to-spy-on-their-owners-researchers-say/?utm_source=chatgpt.com) * Earlier talks by the same researcher showed how camera-equipped robots from Roborock and Dreame expose /dev/video\* devices and vendor camera tools; in some cases, the “camera in use” voice alert can be suppressed just by replacing the audio prompt file, so you can have silent live view. [dontvacuum.me](https://dontvacuum.me/talks/DEFCON31/DEFCON31-vacuum-robots-final.pdf) On top of that, regulators in Korea recently found that some Chinese camera bots (Dreame, Narwal, Ecovacs) can leak stored images or allow forced camera activation via weak or missing authentication in their apps and cloud services. [Meta Connects+4Digital Policy Alert+4MK News+4](https://digitalpolicyalert.org/event/33215-internet-and-security-agency-and-consumer-agency-released-security-assessment-findings-from-investigation-into-cybersecurity-vulnerabilities-of-robot-vacuum-cleaners?utm_source=chatgpt.com) So my baseline was: no RGB camera at all if I can avoid it. # Why Roborock felt “less bad” than some others Every vendor has issues, including Roborock. I’m not pretending they’re perfect, just that they looked relatively better: * Giese’s DEF CON 31 slides show Roborock reacting to earlier research by locking down U-Boot, enabling Secure Boot, SELinux, dm-verity, and using LUKS encryption for user/application partitions with keys in TrustZone; plus ELF signature checks for binaries. [dontvacuum.me](https://dontvacuum.me/talks/DEFCON31/DEFCON31-vacuum-robots-final.pdf) * The same deck shows an email from the Roborock CEO saying their engineers watched the talk and were fixing the vulnerabilities, and newer flagships like the S8 Pro Ultra ship with Secure Boot, dm-verity, LUKS, SELinux, etc. [dontvacuum.me](https://dontvacuum.me/talks/DEFCON31/DEFCON31-vacuum-robots-final.pdf) * Korea Consumer Agency + KISA tested six camera robots (Samsung, LG, Narwal, Dreame, Roborock S9 MaxV Ultra, Ecovacs X8 Pro Omni). Samsung and LG scored best overall; Narwal/Dreame/Ecovacs had the worst camera- and image-related issues; Roborock’s main hit was weak password policy, not remote camera abuse. [MK News+4Digital Policy Alert+4MK News+4](https://digitalpolicyalert.org/event/33215-internet-and-security-agency-and-consumer-agency-released-security-assessment-findings-from-investigation-into-cybersecurity-vulnerabilities-of-robot-vacuum-cleaners?utm_source=chatgpt.com) So Roborock is still hackable if you really try, but they’ve clearly been pushed by researchers and regulators, and they’re not in the “we’ll happily leak your house photos” bucket that some Ecovacs / Dreame / Narwal models fell into. # Models I skipped Roborock S8 Pro Ultra / Saros 10 / Saros 10R * The S8 Pro Ultra has two cameras plus LiDAR and line lasers, and supports remote live view. [dontvacuum.me+2Roborock Singapore+2](https://dontvacuum.me/talks/DEFCON31/DEFCON31-vacuum-robots-final.pdf) * The Saros series (Z70 / 10 / 10R) heavily markets “home monitoring” with remote viewing from the Roborock app. [BIKMAN TECH+1](https://bikmantech.com/blogs/blogs/roborock-s8-maxv-ultra-top-10-q-a?srsltid=AfmBOopQ7MpPl8HkAHPYP_q7xIzKcW_S8p84wcwHxIQfSvontLE1sNDF&utm_source=chatgpt.com) * Great cleaners, but fundamentally still network-connected IP cameras on wheels, which is exactly what I’m trying to avoid. Roborock Qrevo Curv 2 (Flow / Pro / 5A1) * Roborock explicitly says the Curv 2 Flow uses structured light + an RGB camera for “Reactive AI Obstacle Recognition” and that it recognises 200+ object types. [Roborock Singapore Official Site](https://sg.roborock.com/pages/roborock-qrevo-curv-2-flow) * They do have TÜV ETSI EN 303 645 certification and say the camera is off by default, but it’s still a cloud-connected camera with AI processing. [Roborock Singapore Official Site](https://sg.roborock.com/pages/roborock-qrevo-curv-2-flow) * Again, not what I want in a vacuum. Ecovacs / Dreame / “AI Vision / MaxV” type bots * Many of these are sold around their forward cameras + AI obstacle recognition + pet snapshots + remote viewing. * Between DEF CON 32 (Ecovacs camera/mic takeover) and the Korean regulator findings (forced camera activation, cloud-stored images accessible without strong auth), I’m not comfortable putting another one of these on my network right now. [MK News+4TechCrunch+4nextpit+4](https://techcrunch.com/2024/08/09/ecovacs-home-robots-can-be-hacked-to-spy-on-their-owners-researchers-say/?utm_source=chatgpt.com) Random budget LiDAR-only bots * There are cheaper LiDAR bots without cameras, but digging around it’s much harder to find any serious security analysis, and long-term parts/firmware support is a big shrug. That’s a different kind of risk I didn’t want. # Why I landed on the Roborock Qrevo 798 (QR 798 / “Qrevo L”) The QR 798 sold in SG is essentially the Qrevo L platform under a local model code. From Roborock’s SG and global pages plus retailer listings: [Roborock Malaysia Official Site+4Roborock Official Australia+4Roborock Store ANZ+4](https://au.roborock.com/pages/roborock-qrevo-l?srsltid=AfmBOopchF29zQLu0Ed4oimS2orzeh8zQT7Ha_1RDm8Y4vI0_9eWjFNt&utm_source=chatgpt.com) * No RGB camera * Navigation is PreciSense LiDAR + structured-light obstacle sensing, not an RGB camera module. There’s no live-view / home-monitoring feature exposed in the app, unlike Saros or Curv 2. [Roborock Official Australia+2Roborock Store ANZ+2](https://au.roborock.com/pages/roborock-qrevo-l?srsltid=AfmBOopchF29zQLu0Ed4oimS2orzeh8zQT7Ha_1RDm8Y4vI0_9eWjFNt&utm_source=chatgpt.com) * No obvious “smart speaker” behaviour * It plays voice prompts, but there’s no built-in always-listening voice assistant or advertised two-way talk / video call on this model. Voice control is via external assistants (Alexa/Google), so any mic that exists isn’t being sold as a home-monitoring feature in the way the MaxV/Saros lines are. (I still treat it as untrusted IoT and segment it on my network.) * Spec-wise it’s solid * Rated 10,000 Pa suction with HyperForce motor. [Roborock Official Australia+2Roborock Store ANZ+2](https://au.roborock.com/pages/roborock-qrevo-l?srsltid=AfmBOopchF29zQLu0Ed4oimS2orzeh8zQT7Ha_1RDm8Y4vI0_9eWjFNt&utm_source=chatgpt.com) * All-rubber main brush and anti-tangle side brush; Roborock markets this range specifically on handling hair with certified low tangling in their internal tests. [Roborock Official Australia+1](https://au.roborock.com/pages/roborock-qrevo-l?srsltid=AfmBOopchF29zQLu0Ed4oimS2orzeh8zQT7Ha_1RDm8Y4vI0_9eWjFNt&utm_source=chatgpt.com) * Dual spinning mops with lift so it can handle hard floors and low-pile carpets without soaking everything. [Roborock Official Australia+1](https://au.roborock.com/pages/roborock-qrevo-l?srsltid=AfmBOopchF29zQLu0Ed4oimS2orzeh8zQT7Ha_1RDm8Y4vI0_9eWjFNt&utm_source=chatgpt.com) * Dock & convenience * The dock does auto dust emptying, mop washing, warm-air drying, and clean-water refills using removable tanks – no fixed inlet/outlet plumbing. [Roborock Official Australia+2Roborock Store ANZ+2](https://au.roborock.com/pages/roborock-qrevo-l?srsltid=AfmBOopchF29zQLu0Ed4oimS2orzeh8zQT7Ha_1RDm8Y4vI0_9eWjFNt&utm_source=chatgpt.com) * Local support * It’s an official Roborock Singapore model with local warranty and service channels listed on their SG site and Shopee/Lazada flagship stores. [Roborock Singapore Official Site+2Roborock Singapore Official Site+2](https://sg.roborock.com/pages/roborock-qrevo-curv-2-flow) Put together: it’s LiDAR + structured light, no RGB camera, no remote viewing mode, decent security posture for a mass-market bot, and still a high-end cleaner. # TL;DR If you’re in Singapore and you: * want no RGB camera on your robot, * still care a lot about cleaning performance and full auto dock, * and don’t want to mess with rooting / Valetudo right now, then the Roborock Qrevo 798 (QR 798 / Qrevo L) was the least-bad compromise I could find. If anyone has found other camera-free, LiDAR-only bots with third-party security scrutiny and decent long-term support, let me know below

So based on your needs roborock.qrevo series might be a good fit. I have a Qrevo and has auto empty dock and great with.pet hair due to anti tangle feature Also I have a baby at home and Roborock parts are easy to get so sometimes rather than cleaning them out I just replace them when I don't have time and that might be helpful for the household as you can replace them when you are there and it reduces maintenance Another option with no mop is Eufy , the parts are ok to find and good for pet hair So here are some or the recommendations: 1) https://amzn.to/4dDP1a1 Qrevo series; great for hair. Coat 599 2) https://amzn.to/4dNIDNp Roborock qrevo plus: 599 3) https://amzn.to/4dEAYRA Eufy 60; this is a good starting point if you want to test and dont need a mop. May need some more maintenance but overall good and worth the cost To your point of silent, auto empty docks are not that silent in general so I suggest you check some videos to gauge the noise and if it's acceptable for you. There are different vaccum settings which reduces noise but that's about it, auto empty docks do make noise a little though

I'm on my 5th or 6th roborock iteration now (a Qrevo Plus) and it's probably been the most frustrating of the bunch. Constantly messing up the map and getting lost whereas my older models were rock solid. Support didn't offer much in the way of real help except to send it back in and hope for the best (I passed). Currently looking at a replacement lidar if I can find one to see if that sorts it out. The official accessories (filters, mops, brushes) have always been hit or miss on availability and the third party ones appear to work as well or better for a fraction of the price. On the upside, these are an absolutely game changer for keeping the floors clean. Many friends and family have seen ours and decided to get one of their own. Absolutely a must with kids. I usually consider upgrading our primary one every few years and passing down the old one to the other floors. The flexiarm was a game changer and am curious to see how the heated dock helps clean our wood floors better.

Yes, I have a golden retriever and fluffy cats. The robovac is awesome cause it has two smaller rollers angled in and it stops the long retriever feathers getting wrapped around. We have the qrevo c plus (something like that). With my ecovac it had one long roller and I was constantly having to cut out the fur.

Great question — all four are solid options, but if **precise, straight-line navigation** and **smart edge cleaning** are your top priorities, here’s a quick breakdown based on real-world usage and reviews: # Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2 – Best All-Around * **Straight-line pathing is excellent** thanks to improved AI + LiDAR + front obstacle camera. * **Edge mopping is actually intelligent** (mops extend and trace baseboards). * Very few complaints about zigzagging once mapping is complete. * 7,000Pa suction + mop lifting, self-cleaning dock, and fully automated. Here’s a product link with more details: 👉 [Dreame L10s Ultra Gen2](https://www.dreametech.com/products/l10s-ultra-gen-2-robot-vacuum?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=Reasonable-Cheek-214&utm_campaign=Recs) # Ecovacs T30C / T50 Omni * Great suction and dual mop arms (the T50 improves on the T30). * Pathing is solid, but **edge handling tends to be weaker** than Dreame or Roborock. * App experience isn’t as refined — sometimes gets confused with complex layouts. * T30C lacks some dock automation that the T50 has. # Roborock Q Revo Plus * Clean layout and UI, but **no AI obstacle detection** like the Dreame or Ecovacs models. * Does fine in open spaces, but might **zigzag around furniture** more. * Mops don’t retract — they only lift slightly. # ✅ Verdict: If you want top-tier navigation and the most “set it and forget it” automation, **go for the L10s Ultra Gen 2**. It nails precise movement and doesn’t get lost or spin in circles like older bots — and it’s often **more affordable** than Ecovacs' high-end models with better long-term reliability. Let me know if you want to compare carpet handling, obstacle detection, or app features!

All three are solid picks, but here’s a quick breakdown to help you decide: **🥇 Dreame L10s Ultra Gen 2** – Best all-rounder * Excellent AI obstacle avoidance * Dual mop pads that lift on carpet * Auto mop washing, drying, and dustbin emptying * Great app, reliable mapping ✅ Ideal if you want *hands-free cleaning* with smart features. **🥈 Roborock Q Revo Plus** – Best value * Rotating mops, mop lifting, and self-cleaning dock * Slightly weaker obstacle avoidance than Dreame * Great Roborock app and consistent performance ✅ Best if you want *great cleaning* without breaking the bank. **🥉 Ecovacs T50 Pro Omni** – Feature-rich but newer * Powerful suction and solid navigation * Ecovacs app can feel cluttered * AI features not as polished as Dreame or Roborock ✅ Good if you want *top hardware* and don’t mind a learning curve. **Verdict:** If you want the most *refined smart experience*, go with the **L10s Ultra Gen 2**. If budget is tighter, **Q Revo Plus** offers 90% of the experience for less. The **T50 Pro** is promising but still proving itself.

€1,000 budget + mopping first + reliability > features = **Roborock Q Revo line**. It won’t wow you, but it also won’t strand you with dead mop hardware again.