Roborock - S5

Still have a Roborock S5 I bought in early 2018. Once a year I break it down and get all the fur (cat and dog) out of its guts, it's a pretty wild amount that gets on the inside. Otherwise, keep filters, sensors and brush clean and the thing has been pretty bulletproof. Only issues I have had are software related with random wifi dropouts and refusing to connect to the App. But I've gotten used to just hitting the button (got tired of resetting wifi) on our way to work. We also have a Dreame S20 ultra that I've had for not even 2 years and it's been a less than stellar experience (battery doesn't last for the full clean anymore and needs to be piece-mealed, the hair cutting brush internal gearing mechanism siezed up and I had to open it up clean and lube, poor contact with dock resulting in slow or no charging, dock draining issues). It is significantly more complex than the Roborock S5 but I'm more confident than not that my next robovac purchase will not be a Dreame.

Black friday is coming up and I'm considering upgrading my trusty Roborock S5 after 400 hours and close to 10k cleaning cycles. The mopping technology seems to have evolved quite a lot and I'm torn on that aspect. I'm used to having to tear and cut off pet hair from basically everywhere, main brush, side brush and wheels, after nearly every run. I understand the vacuuming maintenance has improved a lot, but I see a lot of complaints about the roller mops. Mainly with regards to the maintenance. Is it really that bad? I'm trying to get the best robot available in terms of reliability and ease of maintenance without sacrificing vacuuming performance, and ideally without a big sacrifice to mopping performance. Cost is not really a factor. The ones that seem to fit the bill so far are Roborock Saros 10R/Qrevo Edge/Qrevo Curv, and Dreame L40s/L50/X50/Matrix 10/Aqua 10. Input and suggestions by anyone with experience of these would be really appreciated.

The CurvX is almost $1500 from the Roborock website where I live. They're probably not pushing it for the Swedish market... Funny though, I also returned an EcoVacs X11 just a couple of weeks ago. Honestly, anything would be an upgrade from my S5, but I feel like the price to performance is so random at times. I can get a Qrevo Edge 5V1 for $740 and a Saros 10R for $1540 right now. The Dreames are all over the place too.. I guess I'll see what black friday brings :)

Same here my s5 !is 6 years old and still working good. Just replaced filters and brushes.

Then repair it yourself? I had a broken LIDAR sensor in my S5. I was allowed to keep it and still got a full refund.  I bought a new LiDAR unit for 100€ and repaired the broken robot in 30 min. Roborock is so big that you can buy all the parts you need easily.

+1 voor Roborock! De S5 rijd hier al een jaar of 6 rond.

We have a RoboRock S5 and S7. They're solid and that S5 just keeps on chugging along. I don't know how BIFL any software dependent electronic machine can ever be, but these are pretty close to as good as you'll get in my opinion.

Same here. We had a wobbly Roborock s5 and a switchbot k10+. Both if those dragged a wipe around and was more hassle then its worth. We upgraded to a Qrevo master and the difference of our hardwood floor and tiles are night and day.

Hi all, I know a lot of people are interested in this one, so I thought I'd give brief first impressions after the first day. We've had a [Roborock S5](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1kz11eb/free_roborock_s5_needs_a_repair_paying_it_forward/) since 2019 but replaced it after the LDS stopped being reliable. I bought the E25 for £700, direct from Eufy. So very brief first impressions of the E25, after first setup and initial clean: Setup: * Box is bloody heavy. Be careful! * Setup is super slick and super easy - wifi connection and app setup was done in a few mins * The machine looks and feels well-built * The funny circular light under the clean water reservoir is annoying, and I wish it could be dimmed or turned off * The sticky labels on the top of the reservoirs (which explain how to use) have tabs as if they should be removed - but when you peel them off they leave yukky glue residue Mapping: * Amazing initial mapping experience * It tracked all the rooms and identified some of them (e.g., it knew one room was a bathroom - presumably using the AI camera to identify the toilet) * The 3D map is cool, but pointless * I needed to set up a no-go area and virtual wall and the first time I set it up, this just failed (click 'save', message says 'Failed', and no other feedback). After I re-mapped the house, it worked fine. Probably an app or wifi comms bug. Cleaning and vacuuming: * First clean took about an hour - 85m2, or so. * It's *very* quiet. Half the volume, or less, than the Roborock S5, which was a noisy sod. * Vacuuming seems very good - better than the S5 (but you'd expect so, as it has nearly 10x the suction Pa) * Mopping seemed good so far, and the water from cleaning was very muddy. Be interesting to see how much better the effect is when running regularly. * Overall clean was pretty good. There were a few tiny bits of debris missed in the corners under teh worktops, but I'm aware no robovac is perfect. Again, little and often * It did get stuck in a couple of places - one step was too high for it to get down (virtual wall placed to prevent this) and a narrow bit next to the toilet - it's about 8mm to wide to go all the way in, so I set up a no-go area. But avoidance generally seems good. Overall, very pleased. It'll be interesting to see how well it works once we've got the schedules running. Edit: one other plus. I was a bit concerned about the cost of bags for the base unit, but there's unofficial ones on amazon for about £14 for 10 bags, which seems reasonable. Better still, I went into the Eufy app tonight and it offered me a free gift in return for feedback. So I wrote some feedback and they gave a voucher for a free £16 pack of 3 official hoover bags. So at 75 days per bag, that'll last me at least until Christmas.

Sorry, nope. Plenty of YouTube people out there that are doing that. I'm not putting rice and sand on my rug and vacuuming it! Performance is fine though. Loads better than my old S5 Roborock even with it on max and the Eufy on the standard/quiet setting.

Yeah, we've got an S5 from around the same time (2019), and the battery is still strong. The [LDS has failed](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1kz11eb/free_roborock_s5_needs_a_repair_paying_it_forward/) in the last 2 weeks, and didn't seem repairable, but somebody with more expertise or patience can probably fix it.

I am totally going to believe you. My 7y old S5 does a great job vacuuming, but its mopping feature is so bad that I stopped using it after a few pitiful attempts. So if the new models suck about as well and can decently mop the floor, then it’s worth upgrading

The tangled hair in my S5 drives me nuts. Also I’ve had charging issues for over a year now, repaired it once, 2 months later it gave me that dreadful error 13 again. Then the battery died completely… so for the last several months I’ve had to put good ol’ Henry back to work…. Gonna fix S5 (7th year of service now) and use it on the second floor but gonna buy the qrevo curv no cam for downstairs occasionally taking it up to mop.

Thank you for that comment, I keep needing to remind myself of that. I had a very successful run with my first ever high value Aliexpress purchase about 6 years back, a Roborock S5, that just broke down and my repair skills are now outmatched and so I am looking for an upgrade. And it seems impossible to choose something with the ocean of issues people report on any mid tier model (not look top tier as I have a small apartment). I assumed newer models will be better at navigating, I never experienced any major issues with the robovac navigating the rooms, but from what I see, my model was fairly good. Looking for something similarly reliable but with the self emptying, heated cleaning and drying of the pads.