Roborock - S5

Hi all, I know a lot of people are interested in this one, so I thought I'd give brief first impressions after the first day. We've had a [Roborock S5](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1kz11eb/free_roborock_s5_needs_a_repair_paying_it_forward/) since 2019 but replaced it after the LDS stopped being reliable. I bought the E25 for £700, direct from Eufy. So very brief first impressions of the E25, after first setup and initial clean: Setup: * Box is bloody heavy. Be careful! * Setup is super slick and super easy - wifi connection and app setup was done in a few mins * The machine looks and feels well-built * The funny circular light under the clean water reservoir is annoying, and I wish it could be dimmed or turned off * The sticky labels on the top of the reservoirs (which explain how to use) have tabs as if they should be removed - but when you peel them off they leave yukky glue residue Mapping: * Amazing initial mapping experience * It tracked all the rooms and identified some of them (e.g., it knew one room was a bathroom - presumably using the AI camera to identify the toilet) * The 3D map is cool, but pointless * I needed to set up a no-go area and virtual wall and the first time I set it up, this just failed (click 'save', message says 'Failed', and no other feedback). After I re-mapped the house, it worked fine. Probably an app or wifi comms bug. Cleaning and vacuuming: * First clean took about an hour - 85m2, or so. * It's *very* quiet. Half the volume, or less, than the Roborock S5, which was a noisy sod. * Vacuuming seems very good - better than the S5 (but you'd expect so, as it has nearly 10x the suction Pa) * Mopping seemed good so far, and the water from cleaning was very muddy. Be interesting to see how much better the effect is when running regularly. * Overall clean was pretty good. There were a few tiny bits of debris missed in the corners under teh worktops, but I'm aware no robovac is perfect. Again, little and often * It did get stuck in a couple of places - one step was too high for it to get down (virtual wall placed to prevent this) and a narrow bit next to the toilet - it's about 8mm to wide to go all the way in, so I set up a no-go area. But avoidance generally seems good. Overall, very pleased. It'll be interesting to see how well it works once we've got the schedules running. Edit: one other plus. I was a bit concerned about the cost of bags for the base unit, but there's unofficial ones on amazon for about £14 for 10 bags, which seems reasonable. Better still, I went into the Eufy app tonight and it offered me a free gift in return for feedback. So I wrote some feedback and they gave a voucher for a free £16 pack of 3 official hoover bags. So at 75 days per bag, that'll last me at least until Christmas.

Sorry, nope. Plenty of YouTube people out there that are doing that. I'm not putting rice and sand on my rug and vacuuming it! Performance is fine though. Loads better than my old S5 Roborock even with it on max and the Eufy on the standard/quiet setting.

Yeah, we've got an S5 from around the same time (2019), and the battery is still strong. The [LDS has failed](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1kz11eb/free_roborock_s5_needs_a_repair_paying_it_forward/) in the last 2 weeks, and didn't seem repairable, but somebody with more expertise or patience can probably fix it.

For 6+ years now I have owned the [Roborock S5](https://www.amazon.com/roborock-Robot-Vacuum-Cleaner-White/dp/B0792BWMV4). In fact, I still use it literally daily. Without going into unnecessary detail, it's certainly reaching end of life. Therefore, I am in the market for a new vac. Exciting! One of the best things about the S5, for me, is that it does not have a self emptying bin. Let me explain... without a self emptying bin it allows the vacuum to maintain a low profile and ultimately allows me to keep the vacuum out of sight. It stays under my couch where it is completely out of sight out of mind 100% of the time. I live in a small apartment in a big city; floor space is absolutely critical and the more I can tuck things away, the better. Therefore, I am looking for the best vac + mop combo without a bin. Looked on the trusty Vac Wars compare tool and selected "Docking Station Type: None." What came up? Nothing great. The Roborock S8 is their highest rated non-dock option and it literally is so old it's unavailable. So, my questions to you, Reddit... got any recommendations for a robovac without one of those massive self emptying bins? Budget is not a factor.

I've had my roborock S5 for like 7 years and it's still going strong. Recently had to replace the battery and a few years back replaced the lidar motor. And of course replace the brushes etc sometimes. Very easy and cheap to repair

Don't have pets but it cleans just as well as ever ✌🏼

My Roborock S5 is still working great. Had to change some parts like lidar motor and battery (and ofc brushes etc sometimes). It's from 2018 I believe.

I bought the og xiaomi roborock. It was the best cheap investment that I ever made.

I really appreciate someone bringing this up! As a design geek, I always struggle when I have to make purchase decisions because not always I find something that I consider "well designed". The robot vacuums category is one of these... However, here some robot vacuums that have a design worth talking about (of course, things need to be contextualised for their time). In completely random order: - **Roomba s9**: a sleek and professional finish, the first (and only) D-shaped Roomba, taking advantage of its shape and bringing to market the best edge cleaning ever (before robot vacuums with extensible side brush were a thing) together with one of the best vacuuming performances ever. - **Roomba i3**: the first one of the newly engineered Roomba mid-range series, bringing to "budget" conscious consumers a new methodical navigation method, together with a modern aesthetics which drops the carrying handle for a new fabric-textured top finish and with modern, clean lines. - **Philips (Versuni) HomeRun 7000**: not a particularly noteworthy product, however a robot vacuum distancing itself from the competition thanks to the typical Philips design, with dual-finish robot and fabric emptying base. Not the best result, but at least an attempt to bring an externally developed product (ODM'd by 3irobotix) in line with the company design style (uses for instance with air purifiers etc). - **Roomba j7/j9+**: distancing itself from its predecessor (Roomba i7, with a good looking "techy" design), it brings a much cleaner design, more minimal, and enriched by a metallic disc on top together with a UI based on the RGB light around the only button (not the most intuitive one, but an attempt to do something different). It also features a newly redesigned self-emptying station, now developed in a much more compact and modern-looking form factor, thing that will be later copied by most other manufacturers. - **Neato Botvac lineup**: overall, Neato products have always been lacking in terms of design (an exception being the Kobold VR300, which changes the design aligning it to the family feeling of contemporary Vorwerk products), however these specific units brought more thoughtful, cleaner lines (to an extent...) together with the LiDAR tower cap in some bold, unique colours. This aesthetic didn't survive long and wasn't - overall - in line with the brand identity of Neato. Still, a good attempt. RIP. - **Dyson 360° VisNav**: not too much to say - it looks good. Perfectly matches a useful D-shaped layout with the Dyson family feeling. Balanced despite the lack of simplicity, modern in a retro-futuristic way, and functional. - **Karcher RC3000**: one of the first robot vacuums with self-emptying station (the first one?), with a bold design perfectly in line with the company identity. - **Dreame W10 Pro**: overall, similar to all other Dreame products, but in the (now abandoned) D-shaped style. Adds a gold accent to differentiate it from the "non-Pro" version which lacks the front sensor array (ToF 3D cam + RGB cam). Clean lines, clean colours, very minimal and stylish overall. - **SmartMi VortexWave**: innovative design for this unique robot vacuum and mop: D-shaped style allowing a large front brush that can be exchanged to leave its place to a roller-style mop. The first robot vacuum supporting both dry and wet vacuuming. Clean lines and a good mix of minimal and techy design. - **Electrolux Pure i9.2 (also AEG RX9.2)**: one one-of-a-kind. The genuine successor of the original Electrolux Trilobite. Developed in-house by Electrolux, this product was one of the first to implement small obstacles avoidance (2017 for the first gen Pure i9) thanks to its navigation method fully based on dual-line lasers. Overall an excellent product, unfortunately killed by the high price, lacking marketing, and growing Chinese competition (at much cheaper prices). Futuristic design for a robot with futuristic features. - **Matic robot vacuum**: the only one that in recent years has dared to challenge the paradigm of robot vacuums. Narrower but much taller. Boxy design resembling a robotic toy, with large wheels and front, "peninsular" brush assembly. Together with a revolutionary vSLAM navigation system based on nVIDIA Jetson Orin. It has its flaws, but it's the kind of competition we need in the category. - **Narwal (in picture, Freo Z10)**: not really a worthy robot vacuum cleaner/brand overall, but one of the first brands to really bet on rotational mops, together with the distinctive clean and alien-like shape of their docks which has now been copied by many competitors. - **Xiaomi Mi Robot Vacuum (Roborock)**: the first LiDAR-based robot vacuum to bring LiDAR and methodical navigation to the masses, at a price that made it the the-facto standard of robot vacuum recommendations in 2016/2017. Together with the new technology at low price, it brought to the market a modern and clean design and a futuristic, intuitive app. - **DJI Romo**: too early to speak about this as a robot vacuum cleaner, but from a design perspective it takes the clean, curvy Narwal style and turns it inside-out giving it a transparent cover. Good result, but durability of the good look is still TBD. - **Mach R1** (sorry, I refuse to call this Eufy S1 Pro): birthed by the Anker Innovations incubator "Mach" (later absorbed into Eufy), it finally brings to Anker-owned Eufy a new style that was really needed. Futuristic and clean, not much to say. A very good result resembling the square-ish shape of older LG HomBot, but in a new futuristic, semi-transparent twist. That's all folks 😬 Edit: pictures in the comment below because somehow embedding doesn't work in this comment.

My wife has long hair, and it mostly gets tangled in the brush. I just untangle it after each use. But my robotvacuum is quite old (OG xiaomi roborock) so probably newer models handle this better.

I have 3 cats in a 1600 sq ft house. Just bought the $500 Roborock from Costco and am so far super happy. I was going to do the next one up, but figured I’d try this first. I had a roomba years ago and this is sooo much better. Life changing actually. Once it dies maybe I’ll get the step up, but so far super happy with this model. Costco also has a decent return policy if anything begins to malfunction.

Black friday is coming up and I'm considering upgrading my trusty Roborock S5 after 400 hours and close to 10k cleaning cycles. The mopping technology seems to have evolved quite a lot and I'm torn on that aspect. I'm used to having to tear and cut off pet hair from basically everywhere, main brush, side brush and wheels, after nearly every run. I understand the vacuuming maintenance has improved a lot, but I see a lot of complaints about the roller mops. Mainly with regards to the maintenance. Is it really that bad? I'm trying to get the best robot available in terms of reliability and ease of maintenance without sacrificing vacuuming performance, and ideally without a big sacrifice to mopping performance. Cost is not really a factor. The ones that seem to fit the bill so far are Roborock Saros 10R/Qrevo Edge/Qrevo Curv, and Dreame L40s/L50/X50/Matrix 10/Aqua 10. Input and suggestions by anyone with experience of these would be really appreciated.

The CurvX is almost $1500 from the Roborock website where I live. They're probably not pushing it for the Swedish market... Funny though, I also returned an EcoVacs X11 just a couple of weeks ago. Honestly, anything would be an upgrade from my S5, but I feel like the price to performance is so random at times. I can get a Qrevo Edge 5V1 for $740 and a Saros 10R for $1540 right now. The Dreames are all over the place too.. I guess I'll see what black friday brings :)

Same here my s5 !is 6 years old and still working good. Just replaced filters and brushes.

+1 voor Roborock! De S5 rijd hier al een jaar of 6 rond.

Our Roborock S5 is many years old at this point and runs like a champ every day. I’d buy anything from them again. Just watch vacuum wars on YouTube’s latest summary video when you go to purchase and get which ever Roborock he’s currently recommending.

Same here. We had a wobbly Roborock s5 and a switchbot k10+. Both if those dragged a wipe around and was more hassle then its worth. We upgraded to a Qrevo master and the difference of our hardwood floor and tiles are night and day.

I am totally going to believe you. My 7y old S5 does a great job vacuuming, but its mopping feature is so bad that I stopped using it after a few pitiful attempts. So if the new models suck about as well and can decently mop the floor, then it’s worth upgrading

The tangled hair in my S5 drives me nuts. Also I’ve had charging issues for over a year now, repaired it once, 2 months later it gave me that dreadful error 13 again. Then the battery died completely… so for the last several months I’ve had to put good ol’ Henry back to work…. Gonna fix S5 (7th year of service now) and use it on the second floor but gonna buy the qrevo curv no cam for downstairs occasionally taking it up to mop.

Look at Vaccumwars on Youtube, they do good testing on Vaccums that you can pick what best fits your needs and budget. Roborock was the gold standard years ago when I was looking. I got two S5 and have been happy with them. My biggest complaint is they get stuck more often then I would like. Mostly on items left out on the floor. I think the new vacuums with cameras in theory should avoid obstacles. A lot of changed over the years so I am probably out of date. I have heard good things about Eufy and Shark. Roomba was recently reported to be having financial struggles on their 2024 financial report. That might be a little bit risky since it is dependent on cloud connectivity.

That’s a fair comment. I got more than my money’s worth out of the old Roborock S5’s. Spare parts were readily available, a big community, YouTube videos showing how to fix things… for many new robot vacuums we probably have to rely on customer support and if that’s poor then a lot of money goes out of the window when things break. I assume you’re in the US? I can’t find a deal for the Eufy X10 in my region. Curious though.

Your mop options are severely limited under $200. I'd focus on just buying a vacuum and manually mopping. The mopping function is really only good on the newer vacuums which are still very expensive relative to your budget. I'd recommend Roborock (great integration and products). You'll get solid vacuum performance (look at used options, S5, S6) and the S6 can do a "drag" mop. The S7 vibrates a bit, but with animals I'd manually mop.

I had a Qrevo Curv for almost 2 weeks. When it arrives I vacuumed all my apartment with Curv and then with my old S5. I attached an image with the S5 filter after full vacuuming after the Curv vacuum the same area. I expected S5 to get some dirt but not so much. https://preview.redd.it/3p4yx23c2n6f1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e583317de0212ac550d57f79ad68f750ae506539

We hade several different models in the repair shop and the suction motors are basically always the same. The claim from roborock that the suction from the s5 to the newer models has more then quadrupled is pure bs. I would go with the s7 if they would still sell it.

Totally agree. The mopping feature on the s5 is the only thing that needed upgrading. Everything else was top.

Roborock seems to be using a subpar type of ABS plastic on the rear panel. Mine is the same yellow after 5 years: https://preview.redd.it/lijs7aox2smf1.jpeg?width=1984&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a4d3298dceb9d839281793a0e5a1688dae9571b

I like Roborock, but to be fair, Ecovacs does work, at least not worse than Roborock for me. My Roborock S5 is slowly retiring. It used to clean the bedroom's floor, then went downstairs to the living room's first floor, and now it is on a partial retirement in the office room - smallest and easiest to clean :) Downstairs is Ecovacs T8 OZMO, which runs daily, with almost 3,000 runs in its lifetime. Not a single problem! Upstairs is Ecovacs X1 Omni, which runs 2-3 times a week, mopping. No complaints in the last 2 years, never gave me any trouble.

I have a Roborock S5 since 2018 (i think). What I like most is how easy it is to find cheap spare parts (on Aliexpress). Great investment.

I had a very noisy motorized wheel to change and the small front wheel who breaked.

I swore to try out all sorts of new models of ecovacs and dreame following the retirement of my roborock S5, I'm now back to a qrevo edge after being disappointed by shit navigation on the ecovacs and an rma on Dreame. I'm usually not a brand loyalist when it comes to consumer tech, but fuck me buying anything but roborock has been horrible for me.

The Z70 has "22,000 Pa" vs my S5's "2,000 Pa" - on paper the Z70 should crush it. But when I put my hand on the exhaust, way more air flows out of the S5. Turns out **Pa is just pressure, not airflow volume**. It's like comparing a leaf blower to an air duster - the leaf blower moves piles of leaves with lower pressure but high volume, while the air duster has crazy pressure but tiny volume (great for keyboards, useless for leaves). For actually picking up dog hair and debris, you need **air volume** (CFM) to lift and transport stuff into the vacuum. According to Vacuum Wars testing, the Z70 only moves 16 CFM while my S5 moves around 17-18 CFM - so my older vacuum actually has better airflow despite the lower Pa rating. So Roborock basically chased higher Pa numbers for marketing but sacrificed the airflow engineering that actually matters for cleaning performance. My 7-year-old vacuum has better real-world design than the newer model.

There is no bot that performs the best in each area, but most users will not need this. I do think vacuum wars does a terrific job, however I don't always agree with the weight of their scoring system. While the X9 is currently #1 if you check the individual scores you see that navigation is pretty near average, and battery life is below average. A lot of weight is given to mopping performance, vacuuming power and features. I went with the T80 omni instead, while missing a feature or 2 over the X9 and scoring slightly worse in both mopping and vacuuming, it's battery life is way above the X9 and more importantly so is its navigation. It's again, not a flawless product, but I managed to fix most of my issues with the app, and it's a huge upgrade from my roborock S5. I recommend against paying +1000$ for any bot, as there isn't a flawless model, and there is always something better around the corner. Get a good deal and move on, in 5 years you'll likely buy one that will blow any current flagship away.

Seconded the s5 with Valetudo. 6 years here. I've replaced the brush roller once, side brush once and dismantled it twice. For initial root and to vacuum the filter to fix error 10. We fill it every two days but it keeps the place fairly tidy from pet hair and dirt.

I will not recommend this machine to anyone. Drips on floors. The constant error messages. It keeps running into things and pushing things around because of very bad map orientation. Vacuum perfomance is pretty low, particularly around obstacles and edges. It cannot empty the dirty water from the robot and leaks all over the floors. This is the 3rd machine they have sent me now and nothing gets better. I will do what i can to get my money back and probably buy a roborock again. My s5 was bought in 2018 and i have not had a single error in the machine and it still runs today at my mother in law.

Roborock S5 was such a low complexity model, going strong for many years. Now with more recent models, vacuum-only limits the search to Q5, Q7, Q8. Most of these claim to be "vac + mop combo" but that's just a passive cloth dragged behind. Not really worth discussing. They all have very good mapping and navigation in common. Roborock is famous for that and even the cheapest model does the job well. So depending on what you want, what you actually need, you might be perfectly satisfied with a Q7 M5+ or Q8 Pro+. One thing to note, Spending more money on a Roborock doesn't automatically mean the robot would be built with higher quality and last longer. It has just more features then. More motors, more moving parts, more wear and tear. Second note, Prices do not necessarily reflect the value. Roborock has some strange pricing strategy that no-one understands. For example, Q5 Pro+ is currently at $600 which is insanely expensive and cannot be recommended right now. I guess there's some tariff glitch included whatever.

I have a Roborock S5 that I bought in 2017 that I'm still using today without issue. Sometimes I see the new fancy vacuums and wish I could find a reason to upgrade, but the damn thing just keeps working, and it still does a perfectly good job. I recently flashed Valetudo on it so it operates completely independently of Roborock's cloud services, but they're really great vacuums either way.

I have a five year old Roborock S5 and it can never get the dustbin more than half full of dog hair before it starts leaving it everywhere. Seems this hasn't changed. At least the newer units can empty themselves.

I owned a Roborock s5 (very old), an ecovacs t30 (which I wild very soon) and now a dreame L40. I would Go with dreame or Roborock because of the software. The ecovacs was the only one that got stuck (3 times a week).

I had an s5 before QRevo. I noticed from the stat that the s5 had better suction. The s5 was always full of dust after a cleaning. The QRevo is almost always empty.

I‘m really happy with my roborock. I had the s5 max for the last 4(?) years and was really happy with it but decided to upgrade to the qrevo slim for all of it‘s functions. Now my parents have the s5 and are really happy with it

4 out of 5 stars is not horrible. I have no idea why some people have decided 5 stars means acceptable and anything less is bad. Look through reviews themselves. Often a good number of one star reviews are things like delayed shipments and unreasonable expectations, so just looking at ratings alone won’t give you the big picture. The other side of the coin is paid five star reviews. I used to use fakespot for that, but they’ve shut down. I tend to ignore 5 stars reviews and read the rest for that reason. My previous robot vac was the Roborock S5, and I only replaced it for newer features. I think one of their Q models would suffice for a budget model.

I have a roborock s5 and a eufy. The roborock was my first and I only bought a new one because I’d wanted one that also mopped. The roborock is much better at picking up little bits on the ground and all the pet hair. The eufy leaves little pieces of hair on the ground when done. But since it has the mop and was a lot cheaper than a new roborock with a built in mop I decided to keep it. My older roborock (5 years old) still works great and is now in my finished basement. The eufy I got was x10 pro Omni and I chose it because it has two spinning mop head, separate dirty and clean water tanks, washes and dries the mop after each use. I do like it but I will eventually sell it and get a roborock s8 with 2 water tanks and dust collector.

Mine is too much work for me. I have the roborock s5 I think and I always have to prepare the floor. Put the chairs on the table because they are so wide that the vacuum fits in just so and then won't find out again, put the toilet and bathroom carpets to the doors because otherwise the thresholds are a bit too high for it sometimes, the cat food is in a no-go-zone but sometimes it's confused and spills the cat food anyway, sometimes it closes the toilet door while vacuuming the hallway and is then endlessly trying to get into the toilet before it gives up. When it got older it more and more often happened that it read the map wrong, couldn't find the rooms, couldn't find the station, should have let it make a completely new map again I guess, but that took forever and a lot of supervision as well. So I often came home to a job half done. Now that we have kids it's even more work, we don't always tidy up each day, toys often stay outside, some have their permanent or semipermanent place on the floor (like the doll bed, bathtub, toilet and foodtable we all have on the carpet like it was a little house). I'd have to turn the entire kid's room into a no go zone and even then sometimes it will suck in a small toy underneath the couch or the table or wherever that I might have overlooked and then stop the entire cleaning job. Now I find it a lot easier and quicker to just grab the cordless vacuum cleaner and vacuum around the toys. There's newer robots with camera though who are supposed to avoid obstacles though, but I won't get a new one until the kids are older and have less toys.

Whut? My Roborock S5 hasn't been deep-cleaned since new 5 years ago and it works just fine.

I've used roborock and it has been extremely solid, I had the s5, and I still use it in my garage, it's been going for 7 years or so. Now I've got the s7 and it just works, needs very little maintenance. Had it for 3-ish years now.

Massive difference. I come from an S5, and it can bring me to tears when I see those tangle free duo brushes.

Roborock s5 or any of the series. Great, powerful, smart

QRevo has been great , has most of the top line functionality at a reasonable cost. Have two of them going on now. Our old S5 was still working great and relegated to basement now. Apart from accessories, the only thing I changed was the battery.

Strange for the shiny surface. I have a Xiaomi S5. It has a lidar and my home have shiny tiles everywhere on the floor and it does not have any problem.

My neighbour has a T20 since a few years and loves it. I bought a T50 pro and a Goat lawn mower a3000 lidar. I didn't receive the T50 pro yet but the Goat works very well. My old Xiaomi S5 (roborock) still works well after many years. I will move it on the 1st floor when I receive the T50 pro.

Roborock s5 bought 12/2019 currently used daily to vacuum master bedroom 688 hours and 409k ft2 Roborock s7 maxv plus bought 12/2022 currently used to vacuum basement nightly 1592hrs and 866k ft2 Roborock s7 max ultra bought 7/2024 currently used to vacuum and mop main floor 1096hrs and 535k ft2 No significant issues with any of these. Have not had to repair or replace any parts except brushes and mop pads

As a wife who is the techie at home: absolutely this. Do not give her this unless she asked for it. But if she did: I got two old roborock s5's for less then €100 and they are great. Got them on valetudo. So much time saved on vacuuming!

Even ancient og Roborock S5 will absolutely outshine this thing. They can often be found used for like 80usd just because the included charger costs like 50usd and fits all roborocks. The S5 can be held alive forever with cheap original parts from AliExpress. If you have more cash then roborocks MaxV models often go used pretty cheap and especially the S7 MaxV is fenomenal.

Even waiting for the next iteration, we don't know if their new iteration is better or worse than the previous generation because Roborock's vacuuming quality today is not as good as the previous models. The S5 and S7 were better at vacuuming than the current flagship because they had a better vacuum head and air duct design. Again, whether you should buy a robot vacuum now or next year depends on your urgency. Do you really need it now? If yes, you can purchase it on Black Friday, but if not, you can wait for the new flagship coming next year. Usually, the older model will get discounted, and since many people already have it, it's easy to find help in case an issue arises.

Thirded here too S5 with Valetudo. Slight issue with charging but for the rest still working perfectly all these years.

Same with me, I have a S5 going strong, never replaced anything and it even fell from the balcony once

My s5 is running the upstairs.. X8 omni - is .. such a precious princess a bit of cobweb on the sensors and it starts running in circles - needs a lot of babysitting.. While the S5 just eats poop and continues running through everything - yeah I washed it and it still runs more reliable than x8 omni .. I wish I went with xiaomi :/ Yeah ecovacs it’a really great - until it isn’t - took me a month and now I can’t return it.. If it starts running in circles - you’ll know

Same. I got one for my work. It will do the job so we'll keep it, because work is typically not messy. But in a home? I would never get one for at home. It will get stuck on everything. And it has zero smarts to escape. My roborock S5 was better at avoiding obstacles, or at least getting unstuck after.

Ecovacs are junk, as least the T20 I had for 1 week was. I know have a Dreame bot, the mapping is still a bit crap but at least the robot makes it to each room, even if in does only mop half the kitchen. The best mapping I've had was my old Roborocks S5

I deffo wouldn't return both and get something that's supposed to be better, because the robot vac world is a con anyway, more expensive and more features doesn't equal better experience, also obstacle avoidance while a great thing, with some models it's hindrance as it doesn't work properly and causes all sorts of navigation problems. Do your parents a favour, and provide them some redundancy by keeping both, better to have one on each floor, plus if one breaks you have a back up vac. The mid to high end vacs make a lot of claims but in real life situations they aren't much better imo. By the way the YouTube reviews are a real bum steer as well, God knows how they manage to rate the Vacs as they did, don't trust those, it's a mistake I made. I also wasted money on Ecovacs and Dreame mid to high end and they are both worse than my old Roborocks S5, which is worth about 20p at this point, don't buy into that hype, it's not real.

Personally, I'd be very wary of Dreame, the software and firmware is terrible, only surpassed by Ecovacs. I've had both in the last month and they have been a mistake. My old Roborocks S5 would run rings around both for mapping and navigation. Obstacle avoidance is a nice to have but In my experience with Dreame, it's rubbish so far anyway; I'd rather just clear my cables away.

Well, I've not owned those units, but what I have learned is, much the same as loads of technology these days, you often don't get what you pay for over and above a certain cost. Let's be honest, you can buy one hell of a normal vacuum for 500 quid, in fact you'd have to look pretty hard to spend that sort of cash on an upright vac. From where I'm standing, I don't see that much of an improvement gain on anything over 5-600 quid, the actual difference cleaning performance isn't much different between mid range and high end, it's just the techy features that people tend to get excited about and what to have the latest thing. My old Roborock vacuumed the carpet just as well as my Dreame L20, but it has better mapping and navigation, you can get a S5 for about 250 quid now probably, the L20 is about 850 and the navigation is worse. I think you're better off looking at written reviews from real people over YouTube videos because I got drawn into that and made the mistake I did. Good luck!!

Ecovacs is the worst robot vacuum, no I think the worst piece of tech I've ever owned. I was gobsmacked how they dared to charge that much money for such a massive piece of shit that my oldest S5 ran rings around. I had it 2 weeks and would NEVER by Ecovacs again. I replaced my S5 with Dream L20, which also had its issues and also replaced, but after that it's been at least ok. The S5 mapping I think is superior to both still, even over 5 years old; overall the Dream is better now, but all these new vacs aren't worth the money they ask; anything over £500 is just a waste of money for gimmick features and just to say you have the latest.

Roborock S5, bought refurbished from Amazon as I didn’t know if it’s any good. Used it daily for 1.5 years. Moved and kept it in storage for 3 years. Took it out a year ago to use at another place and still going strong daily. Right now I’m deciding between the Dreame X50 Master and Roborock Saros 10 (both are plumbed units, Saros 10R not available in plumbed version). Leaning towards Roborock simply for reliability.

2058 hours on my Roborock s5. Still runs every day. Replaced a few parts in it over the years, but otherwise it's beek super solid.

My old s5 has over 1500hrs, don't worry about it. Only things replaced are some filters, three main brushes, six side brushes and the front wheel. Brushes, mop, wheels and motors are wear items that you can get online. These robots are there to help you, they are wear items, that's their purpose. Wear them out til they disintegrate.

So I've completely disassembled a few different brands of robot vacuums. Not all of the newest ones especially, but some of the newest, especially my dreame l10s. Dreames and roborocks are really well built imo. A lot of easy screws and the various modules have their connectors built in. They also tend to have their exterior most parts free of major electronics should they need to be stripped and washed. I've put my robovac parts through the dishwasher (make sure yours doesn't have exposed heaters). Plastic shell pieces, dust bin, and filter. Vacuum out the bin/filter/machine first 🙏🏾 I assume the movas are the same. The three are within the xiaomi family of brands so I assume the third is built like the other two. Ecovacs are a lil nightmare to take apart bc their wires are unruly. And you can't even strip the bottom plate or suction area easily to clean or replace. It's doable but only if necessary. I've done some older eufys which seemed good so 🤷🏾‍♂️ Roborocks and dreame, being the most popular seem to have the best part availability as well. Roborock used to have a huge warranty on their s8maxv (5yrs) but reduced it now to 1 on everything I think. The movas have a 3 year warranty which is cool. Refurbished units from eBay, direct from roborock and dreame also come with 2 year warranties (mostly). I guess because poop etc gets smeared into the brushroll chamber mostly, if it's a small enough volume, being able to replace that more easily is nice lol. I haven't had to remove it from the brushroll motor to wash it but maybe that's possible. These machines are dense with electronics and wires but are built well imo so if you're willing to take care of and maybe even go a little diy they'll definitely last 5 yrs. My roborock s5 still works, and now that's 4th hand (I was the 3rd hand lol). I'd only buy them from the xiaomi family, roborock especially if I had the disposable money. I have a long haired rug I'd like to see it clean 🤩🤩 There are roborocks at basically every price point, dreame at the lowest, but the dreames have more features at comparable prices, mostly. Roborocks app is much nicer and I've found their machines are much quieter. They also tend to just do everything better lol. The roborock master is at crazy low prices rn (new & eBay refurb) and it has their obstacle avoidance that should detect puddles. It sounds like you really need obstacle detection so the cheapest I'd go is the mova p10. It apparently has the same sensors as the p50 (which reacts to puddles). And it's a little more expensive than the cheapest (mine) or the in between, glam version of mine: the l10s PRO ultra. The robot names are becoming a bit much but there is some reason to them...

I'd like to know what it will do with a 3/4in threshold. My old roborock s5 is hit or miss if it will make it (depends on the threshold and the day), but if I'm getting one with a mop, it's gotta be able to get into our kitchen.

Hát jah, az alap modellek (amik mondjuk már vannak annyira jók, hogy van benne térkép meg ilyenek, 100-200k közöttiek) nem igazán felmosnak, inkább feltörölnek egy nedves ronggyal De van Roborocknak is olyan ami kicsit jobban fel tud mosni, pl. Roborock Q-Revo, annak ugye az állomásában van extra víz aztán úgy cserélgetni meg mittomén. De az 300-400k között mozog Nekem csak egy sima S5 van már vagy 5 éve, abban csak ilyen béna nedves rongy szerű feltörlő van, nem is használom. De amúgy imádom, jó cucc

Had a Roborock S5 for about 4 years, worked great but wanted auto empty. Had Deebot T8 AIVI I got refurb on ebay for $120, had it for two years and worked amazingly but sucked up dog poop (lol) so it's been sitting. I just ordered an X1 plus, also from Ecovac's official eBay refurb for $170, supposed to come today! I used to be a big Roborock fan boy and recommended them to all my friends but imo they have gotten too expensive and too complicated. Auto mopping isn't that important to me... because i have pets I have to use my crosswave several times a week.

also had the s5 before, the s8 is so much better in light mopping. you should get one with a station, like tha maxv ultra. it cleans the mop like every x minutes and its perfect.

I’m currently using home assistant with this. Got my Roborock S5 and S6 in HomeKit.

Buy an old Roomba Series 500 on up. They can be found at thrift stores and usually just need a new battery. They are well built and work well and are fairly easy to clean.

Buy an old Roborock ONLY if you know what you are doing! Here is a guide for doing a [teardown cleaning of an S5](https://www.instructables.com/Roborock-S5-Disassembly-for-Cleaning-Troubleshooti/). If complex electro mechanical devices fascinate you, go for an old Roborock. If reading my guide makes your head spin, buy an old Roomba. The suction fan of an old Roomba is usually part of the dust bin or cleaning head so it is MUCH easier to clean. There is much to be said for confining the power of a random path robot to one room and letting it clean until its battery runs down. Let it recharge and move it to the next room. True, a LiDAR based robot cleans in an orderly manner, but it only makes one pass. I call this "Good Enough" cleaning. I started out being a Roborock fan, but I have far more Roombas in my collection now. Roombas can pick up sand on a floor. Roborocks cannot even if they have been cleaned.

Have mine since release date since 2 years ago. And still have it, that might give you a hint. Before this one I had the S7 plus and before that one the S5.

For the price (£250) I am very impressed with mine. Its got LiDAR, a mop, empties itself, etc. Its really neat to watch on the app as it goes about your house and maps it out. Its only gotten stuck twice, and both times were on the same chair that has horizontal bars at floor level that it can get over if it runs at it head on, but can high side itself if approaching from an angle. Definitely does not replace vacuuming as a whole though as it just cant physically get into the corners, and the vacuum itself isnt enough to really suck stuff out of the carpet, more just pick up things on top. I treat it more like a broom than anything else, but having a pet it helps me keep on top of things.

I also have the mopping Roborock and love it. We have 1 dog and 12 foster cats so daily sweeping and mopping is a necessity. It won’t save op money though I think it was $700. As long as the toys are picked up the only issue it occasionally has is with my really long hair getting wrapped around the rollers.