Roborock - S5 Max

Smart thermostat for sure, after that my “high end” robot vacuum dreame x50 ultra. Had a basic Roborock s5 Max before but it was bad at mopping and got stuck so often. The Dreame delivers big times. I some smart lights but they are not in the top tier list.

I'm on my second roborock, a Qrevo C. Had an S5 Max with a battery that wasn't holding charge well. It is over 3 years old. My first robot was an Ecovacs. Had pretty much constant errors, when I picked it up to clean sensors it wanted to remap again. I sent it for service, got it back 2 weeks later and it was worse. Got one minute off the dock, complained of dirty sensors, picked it up to clean it, started remapping again. I returned it, was only 4 months old. Just junk! Been with roborock since and the model I have now is amazing. I'll never change. Their app is far superior to what I had with Ecovacs, especially for map editing. I can't comment on the Dreame.

Have been using the S5 Max daily so many years now and it still runs perfectly. I can only imagine what current gen models can do. So I would say: I disagree. Edit: scratch all that I just now noticed you spoke about mops not vacuums. Mopping on the S5 Max is barely like dragging a wet towel over the floor.

So I have a S5 Max that I've been using for a few years and like. Mopping isn't the best but better than nothing I suppose. Was wondering if there is a model worth upgrading to with the annual sale going on? I have carpet and hardwood and would be nice to have a self empty dock. Not really wanting to go above $400.

I've had my Roborock S5 Max wedged below the hallway shoe cabinet for years. It fits to the millimeter and is completely out of sight when docked. Of course it has one of those small, charge only, docks but I don't see why newer ones wouldn't work. From what I've seen, I believe they only need clearance in the front of the dock. You should check the manuals

I think I'll skip another sale because of these dumb model names and differences. I have been wanting to upgrade my S5 Max for a while but I don't care enough to spend hours trying to figure out which robot is actually the one I want.

Roborock S5Max been going strong for 5 years now.

Roborock s5 Max, I think I’ve been using it for around 5 years and still working great and going strong. Even got better with some app upgrades.

I’ve been looking forward to your review of the deebot x8. However I couldn’t wait long enough lol. Upgraded from a 6 year old Roborock s5 max. Decided to go with the yeedi s14 plus, which is identical to the deebot x8 except for AI, camera feed, and detergent dispenser. Honestly I am floored (haha) with the upgrade to the s14 after having dealt with the s5max for almost 6 years. I was constantly emptying the dust bin manually and setting up and cleaning up the “mop” pad. Feel like I actually have a robot vaccum now that I have the Omni station and an actual usable mop. The mop roller on the yeedi was a big factor. I have not been impressed or interested in the spinning mop disc pads on most other options though I was hoping for Roborock to make the switch. The Vacuum portion and suction work as expected and side brush gets most edges and corners. Lot of hate for ecovacs on the internet, which is funny because most of those same people and reviewers (looking at you Just a Dad) give props to yeedi even though they are the same robots. 10/10 would recommend Yeedi s14 plus

Having gone down the rabbit hole of buying a robot vacuum in 2025 and trying an Ecovac/yeedi and having to return it through Amazon after almost 3 months and then settling on the eufy e28, the e28 is amazing. Hands down. I came from a Roborock S5 max that I had had since early 2020 and as much as I love that thing, it’s disappointing they have not released a roller mop style Robo vac. With that said, the eufy e28 checks all the boxes, including the vacuum performance, which I was worried about. This thing is a beast and on top of that comes with a convenient spot cleaner. 9/10 because no robovac is perfect. The build quality is excellent at least compared to most circular robovacs and I appreciate that they are willing to go against the grain of that design which is used by pretty much every other manufacturer. Before the Roborock I had a neato (RIP 🪦) so that might be part of my opinion. Both of those vacuums are still running and used by my sister and my parents respectively. Eufy will be my go to given how impressed I am with the E28. Glad to hear more positive reviews from other users, cheers

I love my Roborock S5 MAX, with mopping cloth. I usually run it once without cloth and second time with it. No camera, just lidar.

We bought an S5 Max back during COVID (I think it was somewhere in the beginning 2021)

I’m considering getting an upgrade, as the robot sometimes has trouble detecting things that it never had issues with before.

I have the same one. His name is Steve. It’s handy to send him around once a day to stay on top of the pet fur.

I come from an s5max, which vacuumed, but the mop only wet the floor. The aspiration of the s8, mine is basic, only with a charging base, is infinitely better. The mop cleans the floor, not to give it a 10, but a 6, compared to the 1 for the s5max. I clean the mop with detergent every time I scrub, empty the chicken and refill the tank, it's a bit tedious, but I didn't dare to buy the complete set. The design of the s8 is for the complete game, since the water and chicken tank are very small. I'm quite happy, I spend it about three times a week and I haven't gone back to work myself. I bought another roborock for my mother, the Qrevo pro set, for about €600 and it is much better than the basic s8.

Hello, everyone. I've had the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra since the start of this month. I was just curious if anyone else is having a similar issue. Since the first day, I would say about 40 to 50 percent of the time the vacuum fails to function correctly. Basically, it will randomly stop in place with the side brush still spinning (I think the mop pads and vacuum motor stop though) for about 15 to 30 seconds and then the side brush stops spinning and the light on the power button turns off and all three buttons light-up. If I push the power button the vacuum will start cleaning, but it does not remember where it has previously cleaned and it does not create a log in the cleaning history. Additionally, if I remember correctly the app indicates that the vacuum is charging at its charging station after this happens. My best guess is that something is overheating as I have noticed that the issue seems to happen with greater frequency if I restart the vacuum after it fails to clean. For reference my house is approximately 900 square feet and I have noticed that it generally fails partway through the second room. I have reached out to MOVA support and I did receive a prompt response to check that the battery has enough power (not the issue), Fully charge the robot before using it again (didn't help), and lastly to check sleep mode by pressing and holding the power button. If I press and hold the power button the vacuum just turns off? I will send another update to them, but ultimately I think that I got a dud and I am going to return it. Other than the fact that the vacuum does not always function.... I do like it... lol. My only other vacuum is the Roborock S5 max. It has been relegated to the basement. It has been an excellent vacuum, but I just finished refinishing my hardwood floors and I wanted something that could mop. It does a great job cleaning; I can't comment on carpet though as I don't have any. I think that the ai obstacle avoidance is a little to sensitive. For example, I have floor protectors on all of my furniture and the vacuum sometimes identifies those as cords; this causes it to avoid the area around that 'obstacle'. This area then does not get cleaned; not really a big deal as it generally only identifies 3 of the 14 floor protectors. Additionally, because my floor has color variations the vacuum sometimes mistakenly identities spills and it will stop the side brush and I think that it also stops the vacuum suction (to avoid creating a mess with the non existent mud/liquid). I wish there was a way to adjust the ai obstacle avoidance, but for the price I think it is an excellent vacuum assuming my current issue gets fixed.

Roborock S5 max. Working for the last 4 years everyday. I have a lot of cats, so it's heavy work every time. I also can disassemble and reassemble it. Not that hard, there are clear videos for it. I really think it is a good piece of engineering. Worth the price I paid at the time. I am lurking for its replacement but it can still go on for a few years I think. Maybe there will be a roborock for stairs at this point!

Got the ecovacs T30 Omni pro. Does a good job on a big floor with lots of cats. But it's only a month old. Previous roborock S5 max worked for 5 years and was robust (but the wheel entangled in something and I couldn't fix it... ). But we never used the mop on it.

I have a Roborock s5 max and it has been running daily for YEARS. I dislike that maps are (only?) stored server side, but I can't argue the value for the 200 I spent. no camera of course, it really doesn't need it.

I got my Saros 10R yesterday around this time (purchased it myself). I'm upgrading from a S7 Max V. Had a Neato D7 before that and a Robock S5 Max and very briefly a Dreame X40 that broke. [https://i.imgur.com/NwJO3iC.png](https://i.imgur.com/NwJO3iC.png) **Few things before I go into it:** I live in a relatively small home. My first floor is mostly hardwood/tile with a 15x20' area rug in the living room. My second floor is all deep carpet. I have a long haired German Shepherd and a wife that both shed a fair amount of longish hair. I keep my rooms mostly tity but my computer does have a fair amount of cables/wires that are wrapped together, but run along the floor. My wife also has a Korg keyboard that has a foot pedal and she often leaves it on the ground. **Super Pros:** * General hardwood/tile mopping significantly better than the S7 Max V. My wife and I both noticed it immediately after the first clean I ran. It covered more areas, got closer to objects (the pivoting side mop helps a lot with that) it reached under my cabinets and it was able to get under two pieces of furniture the S7Max couldn't fit under. * Low Pile Rug performance is much better. I do wish I could set it to 2x crisscross every time on the area rugs.. but the mixed pattern will have to do. * It's way, way, way quieter. General runs are quieter. Max+ mode (or w/e its called) is way quieter. Mopping is now nearly silent. The transfer from robot to base is much quieter than the S7 MaxV. * The Anti-Tangle brush is actually Anti-Tangle. All my previous vacuums would get hair tangled in a single run - I'd clean them at least once a week (neato way more) to get all the hair out. After 24 hours, I see 0 hair stuck. Not one. * The feature set is more rich over the S7 Max. This one is a think a bit annoying because I feel like a some of these features the S7 could do, its just software locked.. but having the ability to do pet area deep cleaning, mixed pattern cleaning, the rug options + all the leave behind the mops, extensions, re-mopping, etc is all really cool. * The detergent dispenser is a nice addition over the S7 MaxV. * The ability to clean out the tray and the self cleaning stuff is super nice. **Kind of Pros but maybe a little not:** * Hair Pickup on carpet is better than the S7 MaxV but still worse than the Neato D7. * I confirmed this by running the S7 Max V first (with rubber brush), on my upstairs carpeted room - that I purposely haven't vacuumed in a week. S7 Max V barely got anything and had some wrapped around the edges - as it does. The Saros 10R filled about a quarter of it's bin - but no tangles! The Neato filled the entire, much larger, bin, the chute partially jammed with hair and the bristle brush was wrapped completely. Neato is still king of deep carpet cleanup (if you ignore how jammed full of hair it gets) * I think the takeaway here is that the Saros 10R is big improvement but I find Roborock still lacks with hair pickup on deep carpets - even area rugs, to an extent.. over much older vacuums. * Pivoting Side Brush is good.. sometimes? When it works, it obviously works and pulls stuff out of corners, I don't find it working that often though - especially under the cabinets/corner cabinets. It comes outsometimes for a bit then goes away. (this is with the AI Lab Flexi arm thing enabled). * Navigation seems similar/better. In terms of actually going around and finding how to get there, it seems quicker (i haven't timed it) and it does less random movements like my S7 Max V did both during and after its cleaned. **Cons:** * The obstacle avoidance seems worse, maybe even way worse? I know it's only been 24 hours and I know the system the 10R specifically uses is new, but so far it's been pretty bad at detecting things, especially cables. * Yesterday when I was messing around with it, it ran into one of my dogs stuffed toys and got stuck on it. It also decided to "jump" little tray tables I have under my sofa, and got stuck on a wire behind them. (I set this as a no-go from now on). * This morning was the first time I ran it on a schedule - I do it early before I wake up, but I woke up to it stuck on the cable for my Wife's keyboard, the mop got wrapped in the cable and it pulled it off. * Just an hour or so ago today, when I was testing the carpet pickup on the second floor, it ran into a sock under my nightstand and got jammed. * Kind of disappointing considering my S7 Max V maybe got stuck twice, in the entirety of 2 years I owned it. I'm chalking this up to a combination of bad luck, weirdness because it's trying to hop stuff the others wouldn't attempt, and relatively new firmware on a new type of obstacle avoidance system. I hope it will improve. * All the Bins are too damn small. * My dog blows his coat twice per year. When that happens my S7 Max V can sometimes get nearly filled with dog hair. I've had to split rooms up into subrooms in order to force it to go back to the dock more often to empty. In this case - the Saros 10R not only has a smaller bin, but it's better at cleaning hair. I can see this being a problem. * It seems to use more water than my S7 MaxV while mopping, yet the clean and dirty bin are both smaller. Which means more refills. * The gloss on the front of the dock is a fingerprint magnet. I hate it. **Conclusion:** Overall, again after only 24 hours, I think its' a pretty nice upgrade over the S7 MaxV and I plan on keeping it. I'm hoping software improves the obstacle avoidance, which is my biggest concern at the moment. I also hope Roborock continues to improve it's suction/hair pickup performance - i really hope youtubers also create better tests for this. A lot of these guys say these newer robots are "perfect" at it and it's just not been my experience at all. They are getting better - in fact tangles seem solved, which is great, but they also leave a ton of hair behind.. even when compared to older robot vacuums but especially compared to a Dyson or something. **If anyone has any questions or wants anything specifically answered let me know ill do my best to respond.**

While it worked I really enjoyed the X40. My biggest concern with these bots has been the hair pickup/tanglement issues. Ever since I got my Long Haired Shepherd - its been a battle to keep up with his hair. The Neato by far has the best PICKUP - but it was TERRIBLE with tanglement. The Brush would literally be covered in 2-3 days and need to be cleaned.. it would often jam after a week if I didn't clean it out. It also had no mopping capability, no obstacle avoidance, was loud as hell, the app sucked, etc. The S5 Max with the Bristle brush was decent at pickup - but it too would tangle and become a mess. That + the smaller bin would constantly need to be cleaned out. Mopping was okay but needing to manage it since no auto-dock wasn't fun. It was a great bot but I think the docking station stuff made the newer ones a massive step up in convenience. I still have my S5 Max though. The S7 MaxV had the worst hair pickup on carpets, with the stock rubber brush, of all the bots I ever owned. Tangles were minimal but it didn't do well taking hair off the carpets (it did great on the hardwood/tile though). Swapping out the rubber to the bristle brush improved the pickup but increased the tangle problem - it also created a problem with auto-empty for me a few times. Other then that i thought it was a great bot. The obstacle avoidance was great for my dog's toys. The mopping was good enough for the mud he would track in and stuff. It definitely was little loud but acceptable. Then I got the X40 with the Tricut brush. It had all the benefits of the bristle brush - performed similar to the S7 MaxV and the non-tanglement of the rubber brush. I'd still get tangles, but they were very very minimal - it did way better actually getting the hair off the carpet. I've read the X40 was better at obstacle avoidance but I really never had a problem with it on my S7 MaxV, so for me it was similar. Mopping and the cleaning of the mop pads was much better than the S7 MaxV. It was also quieter. I honestly would have kept the X40, as I loved it while it worked - but i ran into that docking problem and their support made me jump through massive hoops, spanning nearly 3 weeks, in order to get, what was initially just a replacement... but it was such a nightmare I ended up just telling them I wanted a refund, I didn't want the replacement anymore. And to be clear - it's entirely possible that Roborock's support is equally as bad, but I just haven't experienced that yet. And as it currently stands even the S5 Max still runs great 5 years later, despite having something like 1500 hours on it.

Just sent my eufy back under warranty. Brush motor died in less than 5 months. My old Roborock s5 max is still working. Roborock lasts longer.

Me too. I have had the Roborock S5Max for 5 years now. Never an issues. Only changed the brushes here lately because the was an offer. Only reason for me to upgrade is if I moved to a bigger house because of the dust bin. Currently 94 m2.

My S5 max still works fine for what I use it for

I‘m really happy with my roborock. I had the s5 max for the last 4(?) years and was really happy with it but decided to upgrade to the qrevo slim for all of it‘s functions. Now my parents have the s5 and are really happy with it

I‘m really happy with my roborock. I had the s5 max for the last 4(?) years and was really happy with it but decided to upgrade to the qrevo slim for all of it‘s functions. Now my parents have the s5 and are really happy with it

I ordered a Dreame L40 for myself (arriving today). It’s a refurb from their EBay store for $450, as I didn’t read about getting one so cheap from their physical stores until afterwards. The refurb comes with a 2-year warranty through Allstate. I picked this model for good obstacle avoidance and edge cleaning at a fairly low price. I did need to order the tricut brush separately, as my house has 2 long-haired cats and 2 long-haired humans. This brush is designed to cut long hair so it doesn’t wrap around it (which is a problem for every vacuum I own—I’m very curious to see how well this works). I currently have a four year old Roborock S5Max. It still works great, but it lacks obstacle avoidance, and I’m not good at keeping the floor clear. I wanted to stay with Roborock, as I’ve had a good experience with them and replacement parts are easily found cheap on Ali Express, but getting all the features I wanted was going to be over budget. If you’re a Costco member, they have one of the Roborock Qrevo models for about $500. It has great reviews but lacks the more advanced obstacle avoidance that was a top priority for me.

4 out of 5 stars is not horrible. I have no idea why some people have decided 5 stars means acceptable and anything less is bad. Look through reviews themselves. Often a good number of one star reviews are things like delayed shipments and unreasonable expectations, so just looking at ratings alone won’t give you the big picture. The other side of the coin is paid five star reviews. I used to use fakespot for that, but they’ve shut down. I tend to ignore 5 stars reviews and read the rest for that reason. My previous robot vac was the Roborock S5, and I only replaced it for newer features. I think one of their Q models would suffice for a budget model.

Can't seem to empty itself ever, the dust simply stays trapped in the onboard container. Leaves dust cigars around the place. Doesn't heat to the temperature advertised when mop cleaning. Navigation doesn't seem as good as my old S5 Max. Disappointed in it and trying to return it at present.

I had a midrange roborock s5max for about 4 years. Just upgraded it because I wanted obstacle avoidance and self emptying. I bought a midrange dreame l20 I don't regret it.but the feature i wish I had but wasn't willing to pay for was the extendable corner brush. It wasn't worth $400 to me. It is also so careful with the object avoidance that it won't go into areas that were easily cleaned by my less fancy old robot that i still run sometimes for that reason. It's also very slow but i don't know if that's all object avoidance vacs or if newer higher tier ones are faster. I owned a dreame l10 ultra for a few weeks and returned it because the lack of led lights meant the obstacle avoidance camera couldn't detect in the dark.

I have the Roborock s7 ultra which self empties and has a special brush which my hair doesn’t get caught in. I had the Roborock s5 max previously and my hair always got trapped in the brush roll.

I’m 5 years in with my s5 max, still works as a charm. Only changed brushes and filters.

Roborock S5 Max. It was my first and I still use it (5 1/2 years now). I want to buy a newer one just because I like upgrading stuff. But my problem is that all the newer ones seem to have those huge stations I have absolutely no need for. My S5 and its dock are located invisibly under my sofa and I want to keep it that way. I don't need self-emptying stuff. Mine parks itself in front of the kitchen bin two times a week after cleaning anyway.

O Roborock S8 também faz pressão pra baixo pra passar pano. Esta pressão se iniciou no modelo S5 Max que era um mop fixo.

Important to take into account: spare part availability, check for filters, brushes. That said my roborock s5 max has been running for 500 hours and cleaned 30k km

Even ancient og Roborock S5 will absolutely outshine this thing. They can often be found used for like 80usd just because the included charger costs like 50usd and fits all roborocks. The S5 can be held alive forever with cheap original parts from AliExpress. If you have more cash then roborocks MaxV models often go used pretty cheap and especially the S7 MaxV is fenomenal.

The price is really nice, but its also a very basic robot, basically a 2019 S5 Max with a few tweaks. I wouldnt bother with a autoempty station for it as my experience with S5/S6/S7/Q7 is that these are pretty dumb robots and very often get stuck somewhere or devour something and not make it back. From cheaper Roborocks the Q8 is pretty nice, it has obstacle avoidance and I was susprised how good it is even compared to much more expensive S8. It just does what it should and its pretty smart. They are 275USD here dont know how it is where you live.

I recently went from a s5 Max to a q5 pro+ and im super happy. It gets alot more from the corners and general dust/debree. The old struggled to pick up the small litterbox grains that the cats drag out with them, no problem for the q5 pro+. Its relatively reasonable priced in my country atleast. You can get the same model without the dust collector station for cheaper aswell.

I have a s5 max that I bought used many years back, still rocking. Unless you need the fancy self emptying features or are a flubber that leaves a lot of stuff lying around or or have pets that leave surprises around that would need AI to figure out how to get around... you'd likely be fine with a last season's top model. Doesn't take an AI to draw a map of a single floor environment and clean it, just WiFi. Seriously. 🖖

I would say anything else than irobot will be a mayor upgrade. I switched now from a roborock S5 max to an Dreame x40 ultra and i am very pleased. One selling Point was that it can leave the mops at the base when he is vacuuming.

Yeah it reduced the usefulness of my old roborock significantly.

Roborock S5 max in 2019-ish. Still using it today, shockingly still with the original battery which still works fine. I did have to replace one wheel motor recently. I gifted 2 family members the same robot in 2020-ish, both of those are still going strong too. Not sure if the current crop of high end robots will be that reliable, so many things on those that can go wrong, but I honestly thought the same when I bought the S5 max.

Fun fact, mine is a S5 max too, although I did replace one wheel motor and I suspect the lidar is on its last legs. Thing is, those robots are **simple** compared to modern higher end robovacs with a bazillion extra sensors, actuators, rotating or vibrating mops, self emptying and self cleaning docks. If reliability is your main concern, I would shop for something with as few of such features as possible.

This is my floor: https://preview.redd.it/ycl8553ion5f1.png?width=3407&format=png&auto=webp&s=e6076018641272098eaa745894430a5d9217f641 My grouts arent as deep as yours, but the tiles themselves are even less smooth. Ive been using an old RR S5 max for 6-7 years. It has a brush with bristles, it works fine. It wont get everything everytime on each pass, but thats also true for a handheld vacuum, and if you run it daily, it will be clean ( have no pets or kids, YMMV) Ive also tried with a rubber roller brush, as I was researching a new robovac and most these days have rubber rollers. I was concerned about streaking, but it seems to work about the same. Mopping is a different story. My floor is not sealed, so I have to be very light on water or it will dull the floor. I dont really use the robovac for that (yet. I have begun polishing with a special polish that contains silicone to make unsealed floors water repellent). But even if that was not a problem, I wouldnt expect my robovac to get good results. thick rotating mops probably your best bet.

My roborock S5 max is now getting 6 years old. Surprisingly, still on the original battery ( a new one is cheap when I need it). I did have to replace one wheel motor recently, that cost me 25 euro. 2 of my family members have the same robot and are about as old, and both still going strong. Newer robovacs have tons more features, and tons more things that can go wrong, but mine was state of the art when I bought it, and honestly I never expected it to outlive much more than its 2 year warranty period.

Yes, absolutely. If in doubt, buy a cheap(er) one without all the fancy features (unless ones you really know you will need).My roborock S5 max is over 6 years old now, it doesnt have any of the features of current highend robots, it doesnt even have a self emptying bin, its mopping is ahem.. not very impressive, but its still one of the best things I bought.

>Recently upgraded to a nice Roborock. The software/app is night and day better! And that's saying something, given that it's still impossible to delete a room

Only showing merge, divide and rename for me. S5max

Yes they work. I love mine. I have a Roborock s5 max, 3 years old still going strong. Don’t really care if the Chinese government has a map of my house.

I'm looking to upgrade from my S5 Max... should I be blown away by the difference? We use our s5 max everyday, and have done for the past 6 years

Make sure to disassemble the lidar and check the motor shaft, it attracts hair and slows it down, it also causes the rubber band to slip. And take a cotton q-tip and gently clean the lens.

Too bad, it worked for the older s5max. Hopefully it's resolved with the replacement.

Yes. Especially with pets and/or kids. Consumers usually come online to either ask about a product like you, or ask about issues they're facing. Even if 0.01% of consumers of a million face issues that's still 10.000 owners. Some simple rules to live by. 1. Check the floor for any pet hairball or droppings. 2. Pick up anything that might get tangled in the robot. Toys and yarn for example. 3. Clean the robot(and dock) once a week or at least biweekly. I have faced four issues with both my roborocks but they were minor fixes that i did, both are running fine at 400hours runtime(q5pro) and 1500hours runtime(s5max). Most issues have been ironed out or have available solutions online.

TikTok?! You bought a robot with performance dating back to early pre-lidar garbage. No offence you should have come to forums first. Don't go with roomba either in your price range, they, except the latest release, don't have lidar and is really inefficient in navigation. Go with dreame, mova or roborock. Even second hand isn't an issue as these lasts 1000+ hours. My previous s5max is still in use and has clocked over 1600hrs. Roborock is easy to source parts for if something breaks.

My old s5 has over 1500hrs, don't worry about it. Only things replaced are some filters, three main brushes, six side brushes and the front wheel. Brushes, mop, wheels and motors are wear items that you can get online. These robots are there to help you, they are wear items, that's their purpose. Wear them out til they disintegrate.

true, last deebot i had was a t8 aivi+, the app and the robot were a pos. shouldve bought an s5 max/s6 maxv instead 🤦‍♂️

We live near a beach so I need something with more power than my old reliable roborock s5 max as it needs two passes sometimes to pick up sand. And we just need something that mops for general maintenance of the floors and basic obstacle avoidance I guess, there’s sometimes towels or shoes on the floor we forget to pick up.

I guess I’m just trying to figure out something that no one knows how to figure out. If that makes sense 😅. I have a roborock s5 max that I want to replace with something that mops And i keep getting bad results.

wow! that's a lot of cleaning time. my roborock s5 is over 5 years old and has 1.5k hours on it. do you mop with everytime you use it? or mostly vac

I have a roborock s5 max that works perfectly for almost 5-6 years and I have an ecovacs t30 pro that I’ve had for the past six months or so and it’s now in repair under warranty for the third time. I’m trying to find a new robot with s5 max level of reliability and I don’t how.

That’s what I’m trying to figure out. I have two robots at home, one that is working flawlessly for the past 5-6 years (Roborock s5 max) and it’s replacement that I bought after reading reviews for a week or so (ecovacs t30 pro). The ecovacs has been a horrible experience, I have it for a little over six months and I just sent it in for repair for the third time. So I’m trying to find another Roborock s5 and not another ecovacs t30

I have 3 robot vacuums and they all still work great. Roborock s5 max. I keep it in the bathroom, it’s great at picking up cat litter. Noisy. Roborock s8 handles the rest of the apartment. Vacuuming performance is excellent. Noisy. Roborock Q revo. Also in the main apartment area. Vacuum is okay, but the mopping is fantastic. A little noisy. Never had any trouble with any of them.

Not sure why so many upvotes. Had S5, S7, Q7 all above 3 years and battery is barely different from new. Maybe everyone in here live in castles I don’t know

Have mine since release date since 2 years ago. And still have it, that might give you a hint. Before this one I had the S7 plus and before that one the S5.

S5 Max. Tbf you are comparing it with a dinosaur

Same here my s5 !is 6 years old and still working good. Just replaced filters and brushes.

Our Roborock S5 is many years old at this point and runs like a champ every day. I’d buy anything from them again. Just watch vacuum wars on YouTube’s latest summary video when you go to purchase and get which ever Roborock he’s currently recommending.

Hi all, I know a lot of people are interested in this one, so I thought I'd give brief first impressions after the first day. We've had a [Roborock S5](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1kz11eb/free_roborock_s5_needs_a_repair_paying_it_forward/) since 2019 but replaced it after the LDS stopped being reliable. I bought the E25 for £700, direct from Eufy. So very brief first impressions of the E25, after first setup and initial clean: Setup: * Box is bloody heavy. Be careful! * Setup is super slick and super easy - wifi connection and app setup was done in a few mins * The machine looks and feels well-built * The funny circular light under the clean water reservoir is annoying, and I wish it could be dimmed or turned off * The sticky labels on the top of the reservoirs (which explain how to use) have tabs as if they should be removed - but when you peel them off they leave yukky glue residue Mapping: * Amazing initial mapping experience * It tracked all the rooms and identified some of them (e.g., it knew one room was a bathroom - presumably using the AI camera to identify the toilet) * The 3D map is cool, but pointless * I needed to set up a no-go area and virtual wall and the first time I set it up, this just failed (click 'save', message says 'Failed', and no other feedback). After I re-mapped the house, it worked fine. Probably an app or wifi comms bug. Cleaning and vacuuming: * First clean took about an hour - 85m2, or so. * It's *very* quiet. Half the volume, or less, than the Roborock S5, which was a noisy sod. * Vacuuming seems very good - better than the S5 (but you'd expect so, as it has nearly 10x the suction Pa) * Mopping seemed good so far, and the water from cleaning was very muddy. Be interesting to see how much better the effect is when running regularly. * Overall clean was pretty good. There were a few tiny bits of debris missed in the corners under teh worktops, but I'm aware no robovac is perfect. Again, little and often * It did get stuck in a couple of places - one step was too high for it to get down (virtual wall placed to prevent this) and a narrow bit next to the toilet - it's about 8mm to wide to go all the way in, so I set up a no-go area. But avoidance generally seems good. Overall, very pleased. It'll be interesting to see how well it works once we've got the schedules running. Edit: one other plus. I was a bit concerned about the cost of bags for the base unit, but there's unofficial ones on amazon for about £14 for 10 bags, which seems reasonable. Better still, I went into the Eufy app tonight and it offered me a free gift in return for feedback. So I wrote some feedback and they gave a voucher for a free £16 pack of 3 official hoover bags. So at 75 days per bag, that'll last me at least until Christmas.

Sorry, nope. Plenty of YouTube people out there that are doing that. I'm not putting rice and sand on my rug and vacuuming it! Performance is fine though. Loads better than my old S5 Roborock even with it on max and the Eufy on the standard/quiet setting.

Look at Vaccumwars on Youtube, they do good testing on Vaccums that you can pick what best fits your needs and budget. Roborock was the gold standard years ago when I was looking. I got two S5 and have been happy with them. My biggest complaint is they get stuck more often then I would like. Mostly on items left out on the floor. I think the new vacuums with cameras in theory should avoid obstacles. A lot of changed over the years so I am probably out of date. I have heard good things about Eufy and Shark. Roomba was recently reported to be having financial struggles on their 2024 financial report. That might be a little bit risky since it is dependent on cloud connectivity.

That’s a fair comment. I got more than my money’s worth out of the old Roborock S5’s. Spare parts were readily available, a big community, YouTube videos showing how to fix things… for many new robot vacuums we probably have to rely on customer support and if that’s poor then a lot of money goes out of the window when things break. I assume you’re in the US? I can’t find a deal for the Eufy X10 in my region. Curious though.

I've had my roborock S5 for like 7 years and it's still going strong. Recently had to replace the battery and a few years back replaced the lidar motor. And of course replace the brushes etc sometimes. Very easy and cheap to repair

Don't have pets but it cleans just as well as ever ✌🏼

Roborock seems to be using a subpar type of ABS plastic on the rear panel. Mine is the same yellow after 5 years: https://preview.redd.it/lijs7aox2smf1.jpeg?width=1984&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a4d3298dceb9d839281793a0e5a1688dae9571b

I like Roborock, but to be fair, Ecovacs does work, at least not worse than Roborock for me. My Roborock S5 is slowly retiring. It used to clean the bedroom's floor, then went downstairs to the living room's first floor, and now it is on a partial retirement in the office room - smallest and easiest to clean :) Downstairs is Ecovacs T8 OZMO, which runs daily, with almost 3,000 runs in its lifetime. Not a single problem! Upstairs is Ecovacs X1 Omni, which runs 2-3 times a week, mopping. No complaints in the last 2 years, never gave me any trouble.

I have a Roborock S5 since 2018 (i think). What I like most is how easy it is to find cheap spare parts (on Aliexpress). Great investment.

I had a very noisy motorized wheel to change and the small front wheel who breaked.

The Z70 has "22,000 Pa" vs my S5's "2,000 Pa" - on paper the Z70 should crush it. But when I put my hand on the exhaust, way more air flows out of the S5. Turns out **Pa is just pressure, not airflow volume**. It's like comparing a leaf blower to an air duster - the leaf blower moves piles of leaves with lower pressure but high volume, while the air duster has crazy pressure but tiny volume (great for keyboards, useless for leaves). For actually picking up dog hair and debris, you need **air volume** (CFM) to lift and transport stuff into the vacuum. According to Vacuum Wars testing, the Z70 only moves 16 CFM while my S5 moves around 17-18 CFM - so my older vacuum actually has better airflow despite the lower Pa rating. So Roborock basically chased higher Pa numbers for marketing but sacrificed the airflow engineering that actually matters for cleaning performance. My 7-year-old vacuum has better real-world design than the newer model.

There is no bot that performs the best in each area, but most users will not need this. I do think vacuum wars does a terrific job, however I don't always agree with the weight of their scoring system. While the X9 is currently #1 if you check the individual scores you see that navigation is pretty near average, and battery life is below average. A lot of weight is given to mopping performance, vacuuming power and features. I went with the T80 omni instead, while missing a feature or 2 over the X9 and scoring slightly worse in both mopping and vacuuming, it's battery life is way above the X9 and more importantly so is its navigation. It's again, not a flawless product, but I managed to fix most of my issues with the app, and it's a huge upgrade from my roborock S5. I recommend against paying +1000$ for any bot, as there isn't a flawless model, and there is always something better around the corner. Get a good deal and move on, in 5 years you'll likely buy one that will blow any current flagship away.

Seconded the s5 with Valetudo. 6 years here. I've replaced the brush roller once, side brush once and dismantled it twice. For initial root and to vacuum the filter to fix error 10. We fill it every two days but it keeps the place fairly tidy from pet hair and dirt.

I will not recommend this machine to anyone. Drips on floors. The constant error messages. It keeps running into things and pushing things around because of very bad map orientation. Vacuum perfomance is pretty low, particularly around obstacles and edges. It cannot empty the dirty water from the robot and leaks all over the floors. This is the 3rd machine they have sent me now and nothing gets better. I will do what i can to get my money back and probably buy a roborock again. My s5 was bought in 2018 and i have not had a single error in the machine and it still runs today at my mother in law.

Roborock S5 was such a low complexity model, going strong for many years. Now with more recent models, vacuum-only limits the search to Q5, Q7, Q8. Most of these claim to be "vac + mop combo" but that's just a passive cloth dragged behind. Not really worth discussing. They all have very good mapping and navigation in common. Roborock is famous for that and even the cheapest model does the job well. So depending on what you want, what you actually need, you might be perfectly satisfied with a Q7 M5+ or Q8 Pro+. One thing to note, Spending more money on a Roborock doesn't automatically mean the robot would be built with higher quality and last longer. It has just more features then. More motors, more moving parts, more wear and tear. Second note, Prices do not necessarily reflect the value. Roborock has some strange pricing strategy that no-one understands. For example, Q5 Pro+ is currently at $600 which is insanely expensive and cannot be recommended right now. I guess there's some tariff glitch included whatever.

I have a Roborock S5 that I bought in 2017 that I'm still using today without issue. Sometimes I see the new fancy vacuums and wish I could find a reason to upgrade, but the damn thing just keeps working, and it still does a perfectly good job. I recently flashed Valetudo on it so it operates completely independently of Roborock's cloud services, but they're really great vacuums either way.

I have a five year old Roborock S5 and it can never get the dustbin more than half full of dog hair before it starts leaving it everywhere. Seems this hasn't changed. At least the newer units can empty themselves.

I owned a Roborock s5 (very old), an ecovacs t30 (which I wild very soon) and now a dreame L40. I would Go with dreame or Roborock because of the software. The ecovacs was the only one that got stuck (3 times a week).

I have a roborock s5 and a eufy. The roborock was my first and I only bought a new one because I’d wanted one that also mopped. The roborock is much better at picking up little bits on the ground and all the pet hair. The eufy leaves little pieces of hair on the ground when done. But since it has the mop and was a lot cheaper than a new roborock with a built in mop I decided to keep it. My older roborock (5 years old) still works great and is now in my finished basement. The eufy I got was x10 pro Omni and I chose it because it has two spinning mop head, separate dirty and clean water tanks, washes and dries the mop after each use. I do like it but I will eventually sell it and get a roborock s8 with 2 water tanks and dust collector.

Mine is too much work for me. I have the roborock s5 I think and I always have to prepare the floor. Put the chairs on the table because they are so wide that the vacuum fits in just so and then won't find out again, put the toilet and bathroom carpets to the doors because otherwise the thresholds are a bit too high for it sometimes, the cat food is in a no-go-zone but sometimes it's confused and spills the cat food anyway, sometimes it closes the toilet door while vacuuming the hallway and is then endlessly trying to get into the toilet before it gives up. When it got older it more and more often happened that it read the map wrong, couldn't find the rooms, couldn't find the station, should have let it make a completely new map again I guess, but that took forever and a lot of supervision as well. So I often came home to a job half done. Now that we have kids it's even more work, we don't always tidy up each day, toys often stay outside, some have their permanent or semipermanent place on the floor (like the doll bed, bathtub, toilet and foodtable we all have on the carpet like it was a little house). I'd have to turn the entire kid's room into a no go zone and even then sometimes it will suck in a small toy underneath the couch or the table or wherever that I might have overlooked and then stop the entire cleaning job. Now I find it a lot easier and quicker to just grab the cordless vacuum cleaner and vacuum around the toys. There's newer robots with camera though who are supposed to avoid obstacles though, but I won't get a new one until the kids are older and have less toys.

Whut? My Roborock S5 hasn't been deep-cleaned since new 5 years ago and it works just fine.

I've used roborock and it has been extremely solid, I had the s5, and I still use it in my garage, it's been going for 7 years or so. Now I've got the s7 and it just works, needs very little maintenance. Had it for 3-ish years now.

Massive difference. I come from an S5, and it can bring me to tears when I see those tangle free duo brushes.

Roborock s5 or any of the series. Great, powerful, smart

Roborock s5 bought 12/2019 currently used daily to vacuum master bedroom 688 hours and 409k ft2 Roborock s7 maxv plus bought 12/2022 currently used to vacuum basement nightly 1592hrs and 866k ft2 Roborock s7 max ultra bought 7/2024 currently used to vacuum and mop main floor 1096hrs and 535k ft2 No significant issues with any of these. Have not had to repair or replace any parts except brushes and mop pads

As a wife who is the techie at home: absolutely this. Do not give her this unless she asked for it. But if she did: I got two old roborock s5's for less then €100 and they are great. Got them on valetudo. So much time saved on vacuuming!

The reliability of Roborock seems good to me. First S5, now Q Revo.

Thirded here too S5 with Valetudo. Slight issue with charging but for the rest still working perfectly all these years.

Same with me, I have a S5 going strong, never replaced anything and it even fell from the balcony once

Not the best but I got a roborock s5 a few years back for around $250 so I'm sure it's way less now and it works pretty well. It has a mop but you have to manually change out (no fancy dock that auto empties). I'd look into a roborock s series or a revo series at that price point

We have 3 cats and run it a couple times a week. The wife and I are happy with the results. Personally if I did it over again I would save and get the self emptying ones since I know I would run it way more if I didnt have to remove to clean the hair and stuff out after each run. Roborock is one of the top tier robot brands and the lidar on it means it is actually smart in its mapping. I assume most of them have this standard now but the no go virtual lines is a must. You can define certain spots for it to avoid in the app. Great if say you have a couch that the robot can fit into but gets stuck. You can just tell it to ignore that. In the past they gave you these rubber strips so it physically wouldnt go but it looked like hot garbage Also check out Vacuum Wars youtube channel. They do tons of indepth reviews

My s5 is running the upstairs.. X8 omni - is .. such a precious princess a bit of cobweb on the sensors and it starts running in circles - needs a lot of babysitting.. While the S5 just eats poop and continues running through everything - yeah I washed it and it still runs more reliable than x8 omni .. I wish I went with xiaomi :/ Yeah ecovacs it’a really great - until it isn’t - took me a month and now I can’t return it.. If it starts running in circles - you’ll know

Same. I got one for my work. It will do the job so we'll keep it, because work is typically not messy. But in a home? I would never get one for at home. It will get stuck on everything. And it has zero smarts to escape. My roborock S5 was better at avoiding obstacles, or at least getting unstuck after.

Ecovacs are junk, as least the T20 I had for 1 week was. I know have a Dreame bot, the mapping is still a bit crap but at least the robot makes it to each room, even if in does only mop half the kitchen. The best mapping I've had was my old Roborocks S5

I deffo wouldn't return both and get something that's supposed to be better, because the robot vac world is a con anyway, more expensive and more features doesn't equal better experience, also obstacle avoidance while a great thing, with some models it's hindrance as it doesn't work properly and causes all sorts of navigation problems. Do your parents a favour, and provide them some redundancy by keeping both, better to have one on each floor, plus if one breaks you have a back up vac. The mid to high end vacs make a lot of claims but in real life situations they aren't much better imo. By the way the YouTube reviews are a real bum steer as well, God knows how they manage to rate the Vacs as they did, don't trust those, it's a mistake I made. I also wasted money on Ecovacs and Dreame mid to high end and they are both worse than my old Roborocks S5, which is worth about 20p at this point, don't buy into that hype, it's not real.

Personally, I'd be very wary of Dreame, the software and firmware is terrible, only surpassed by Ecovacs. I've had both in the last month and they have been a mistake. My old Roborocks S5 would run rings around both for mapping and navigation. Obstacle avoidance is a nice to have but In my experience with Dreame, it's rubbish so far anyway; I'd rather just clear my cables away.

Well, I've not owned those units, but what I have learned is, much the same as loads of technology these days, you often don't get what you pay for over and above a certain cost. Let's be honest, you can buy one hell of a normal vacuum for 500 quid, in fact you'd have to look pretty hard to spend that sort of cash on an upright vac. From where I'm standing, I don't see that much of an improvement gain on anything over 5-600 quid, the actual difference cleaning performance isn't much different between mid range and high end, it's just the techy features that people tend to get excited about and what to have the latest thing. My old Roborock vacuumed the carpet just as well as my Dreame L20, but it has better mapping and navigation, you can get a S5 for about 250 quid now probably, the L20 is about 850 and the navigation is worse. I think you're better off looking at written reviews from real people over YouTube videos because I got drawn into that and made the mistake I did. Good luck!!

Ecovacs is the worst robot vacuum, no I think the worst piece of tech I've ever owned. I was gobsmacked how they dared to charge that much money for such a massive piece of shit that my oldest S5 ran rings around. I had it 2 weeks and would NEVER by Ecovacs again. I replaced my S5 with Dream L20, which also had its issues and also replaced, but after that it's been at least ok. The S5 mapping I think is superior to both still, even over 5 years old; overall the Dream is better now, but all these new vacs aren't worth the money they ask; anything over £500 is just a waste of money for gimmick features and just to say you have the latest.

Roborock S5, bought refurbished from Amazon as I didn’t know if it’s any good. Used it daily for 1.5 years. Moved and kept it in storage for 3 years. Took it out a year ago to use at another place and still going strong daily. Right now I’m deciding between the Dreame X50 Master and Roborock Saros 10 (both are plumbed units, Saros 10R not available in plumbed version). Leaning towards Roborock simply for reliability.

2058 hours on my Roborock s5. Still runs every day. Replaced a few parts in it over the years, but otherwise it's beek super solid.

I'd like to know what it will do with a 3/4in threshold. My old roborock s5 is hit or miss if it will make it (depends on the threshold and the day), but if I'm getting one with a mop, it's gotta be able to get into our kitchen.

Had a Roborock S5 for about 4 years, worked great but wanted auto empty. Had Deebot T8 AIVI I got refurb on ebay for $120, had it for two years and worked amazingly but sucked up dog poop (lol) so it's been sitting. I just ordered an X1 plus, also from Ecovac's official eBay refurb for $170, supposed to come today! I used to be a big Roborock fan boy and recommended them to all my friends but imo they have gotten too expensive and too complicated. Auto mopping isn't that important to me... because i have pets I have to use my crosswave several times a week.

also had the s5 before, the s8 is so much better in light mopping. you should get one with a station, like tha maxv ultra. it cleans the mop like every x minutes and its perfect.

I’m currently using home assistant with this. Got my Roborock S5 and S6 in HomeKit.

Buy an old Roomba Series 500 on up. They can be found at thrift stores and usually just need a new battery. They are well built and work well and are fairly easy to clean.

Buy an old Roborock ONLY if you know what you are doing! Here is a guide for doing a [teardown cleaning of an S5](https://www.instructables.com/Roborock-S5-Disassembly-for-Cleaning-Troubleshooti/). If complex electro mechanical devices fascinate you, go for an old Roborock. If reading my guide makes your head spin, buy an old Roomba. The suction fan of an old Roomba is usually part of the dust bin or cleaning head so it is MUCH easier to clean. There is much to be said for confining the power of a random path robot to one room and letting it clean until its battery runs down. Let it recharge and move it to the next room. True, a LiDAR based robot cleans in an orderly manner, but it only makes one pass. I call this "Good Enough" cleaning. I started out being a Roborock fan, but I have far more Roombas in my collection now. Roombas can pick up sand on a floor. Roborocks cannot even if they have been cleaned.

I had a Qrevo Curv for almost 2 weeks. When it arrives I vacuumed all my apartment with Curv and then with my old S5. I attached an image with the S5 filter after full vacuuming after the Curv vacuum the same area. I expected S5 to get some dirt but not so much. https://preview.redd.it/3p4yx23c2n6f1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e583317de0212ac550d57f79ad68f750ae506539

QRevo has been great , has most of the top line functionality at a reasonable cost. Have two of them going on now. Our old S5 was still working great and relegated to basement now. Apart from accessories, the only thing I changed was the battery.

The mops lift but chassis doesn't İ have a max (no adaptive lifting) and it does fine with high pile carpets