S5

For 6+ years now I have owned the [Roborock S5](https://www.amazon.com/roborock-Robot-Vacuum-Cleaner-White/dp/B0792BWMV4). In fact, I still use it literally daily. Without going into unnecessary detail, it's certainly reaching end of life. Therefore, I am in the market for a new vac. Exciting! One of the best things about the S5, for me, is that it does not have a self emptying bin. Let me explain... without a self emptying bin it allows the vacuum to maintain a low profile and ultimately allows me to keep the vacuum out of sight. It stays under my couch where it is completely out of sight out of mind 100% of the time. I live in a small apartment in a big city; floor space is absolutely critical and the more I can tuck things away, the better. Therefore, I am looking for the best vac + mop combo without a bin. Looked on the trusty Vac Wars compare tool and selected "Docking Station Type: None." What came up? Nothing great. The Roborock S8 is their highest rated non-dock option and it literally is so old it's unavailable. So, my questions to you, Reddit... got any recommendations for a robovac without one of those massive self emptying bins? Budget is not a factor.

Ecovacs? Yeah, got an older one that cant even suck a few dog hairs out the Container into the Station. As good as my xiaomi roborock from first gen with that. And i swear this thing searches for any cable in the room and you need the dock to be free 50 cm left and right and chance he finds into the station are still 30/70. My 2026 Resolution is to buy a dreame for the upper floor.

I got a Roborock QX Revo Ultra from Costco (basically a Qrevo Edge but made for Costco?). One thing I'm going to point out that would probably blow a lot of minds is that I owned the original Xiaomi Mi Vacuum which is the first vacuum that Roborock ever released and the Roborock S50 which is the second. Both were released around 2017. The navigation, mapping and dock finding on those early pioneering vacuums was faster and **better** than this ultra high end top of the line model. Those vacuums never got lost or struggled to find the dock, they mapped quickly, and they returned to the dock quickly. This new one is trying to do so much, it maps slow, and it needs to think a lot to get back to the dock. If you set it somewhere random and try to send it back to the dock, it doesn't know where the dock is and it needs to think for a few minutes. All of that to say you'd be shocked that vacuums from 2017 that pioneered this tech and only did 10% of what a modern robo vac does already had a lot of what you need, and they were only $300.

They break like crazy. Even the simpler early models break. My Xiaomi MI and Roborock S50 both lasted 4 years and they had only 10% of the tech a modern robovac with a dock does. The Mi died from battery issues and the S50 has damaged capacitors / resistors / transistors.

Vi kjøpte S50 eller noe sånn i 2019 for cirka 3000. Fungerer som bare pokker. Byttet en sensor i fjor, kostet 55kr. I dag ville jeg kjøpt Roborock Q5 Pro, koster cirka det samme. Men har støtt for flere etasjer og børste du ikke må krangle med når den skal rengjøres.

This must be something else, as I used to have this weekly for years on my 6 year old Roborock S50. Recently I got myself the Dreame L40S with the same duo brushes, and it's amazing 😍 NEVER has this problem anymore.