Roborock - S7 MaxV

I got my Saros 10R yesterday around this time (purchased it myself). I'm upgrading from a S7 Max V. Had a Neato D7 before that and a Robock S5 Max and very briefly a Dreame X40 that broke. [https://i.imgur.com/NwJO3iC.png](https://i.imgur.com/NwJO3iC.png) **Few things before I go into it:** I live in a relatively small home. My first floor is mostly hardwood/tile with a 15x20' area rug in the living room. My second floor is all deep carpet. I have a long haired German Shepherd and a wife that both shed a fair amount of longish hair. I keep my rooms mostly tity but my computer does have a fair amount of cables/wires that are wrapped together, but run along the floor. My wife also has a Korg keyboard that has a foot pedal and she often leaves it on the ground. **Super Pros:** * General hardwood/tile mopping significantly better than the S7 Max V. My wife and I both noticed it immediately after the first clean I ran. It covered more areas, got closer to objects (the pivoting side mop helps a lot with that) it reached under my cabinets and it was able to get under two pieces of furniture the S7Max couldn't fit under. * Low Pile Rug performance is much better. I do wish I could set it to 2x crisscross every time on the area rugs.. but the mixed pattern will have to do. * It's way, way, way quieter. General runs are quieter. Max+ mode (or w/e its called) is way quieter. Mopping is now nearly silent. The transfer from robot to base is much quieter than the S7 MaxV. * The Anti-Tangle brush is actually Anti-Tangle. All my previous vacuums would get hair tangled in a single run - I'd clean them at least once a week (neato way more) to get all the hair out. After 24 hours, I see 0 hair stuck. Not one. * The feature set is more rich over the S7 Max. This one is a think a bit annoying because I feel like a some of these features the S7 could do, its just software locked.. but having the ability to do pet area deep cleaning, mixed pattern cleaning, the rug options + all the leave behind the mops, extensions, re-mopping, etc is all really cool. * The detergent dispenser is a nice addition over the S7 MaxV. * The ability to clean out the tray and the self cleaning stuff is super nice. **Kind of Pros but maybe a little not:** * Hair Pickup on carpet is better than the S7 MaxV but still worse than the Neato D7. * I confirmed this by running the S7 Max V first (with rubber brush), on my upstairs carpeted room - that I purposely haven't vacuumed in a week. S7 Max V barely got anything and had some wrapped around the edges - as it does. The Saros 10R filled about a quarter of it's bin - but no tangles! The Neato filled the entire, much larger, bin, the chute partially jammed with hair and the bristle brush was wrapped completely. Neato is still king of deep carpet cleanup (if you ignore how jammed full of hair it gets) * I think the takeaway here is that the Saros 10R is big improvement but I find Roborock still lacks with hair pickup on deep carpets - even area rugs, to an extent.. over much older vacuums. * Pivoting Side Brush is good.. sometimes? When it works, it obviously works and pulls stuff out of corners, I don't find it working that often though - especially under the cabinets/corner cabinets. It comes outsometimes for a bit then goes away. (this is with the AI Lab Flexi arm thing enabled). * Navigation seems similar/better. In terms of actually going around and finding how to get there, it seems quicker (i haven't timed it) and it does less random movements like my S7 Max V did both during and after its cleaned. **Cons:** * The obstacle avoidance seems worse, maybe even way worse? I know it's only been 24 hours and I know the system the 10R specifically uses is new, but so far it's been pretty bad at detecting things, especially cables. * Yesterday when I was messing around with it, it ran into one of my dogs stuffed toys and got stuck on it. It also decided to "jump" little tray tables I have under my sofa, and got stuck on a wire behind them. (I set this as a no-go from now on). * This morning was the first time I ran it on a schedule - I do it early before I wake up, but I woke up to it stuck on the cable for my Wife's keyboard, the mop got wrapped in the cable and it pulled it off. * Just an hour or so ago today, when I was testing the carpet pickup on the second floor, it ran into a sock under my nightstand and got jammed. * Kind of disappointing considering my S7 Max V maybe got stuck twice, in the entirety of 2 years I owned it. I'm chalking this up to a combination of bad luck, weirdness because it's trying to hop stuff the others wouldn't attempt, and relatively new firmware on a new type of obstacle avoidance system. I hope it will improve. * All the Bins are too damn small. * My dog blows his coat twice per year. When that happens my S7 Max V can sometimes get nearly filled with dog hair. I've had to split rooms up into subrooms in order to force it to go back to the dock more often to empty. In this case - the Saros 10R not only has a smaller bin, but it's better at cleaning hair. I can see this being a problem. * It seems to use more water than my S7 MaxV while mopping, yet the clean and dirty bin are both smaller. Which means more refills. * The gloss on the front of the dock is a fingerprint magnet. I hate it. **Conclusion:** Overall, again after only 24 hours, I think its' a pretty nice upgrade over the S7 MaxV and I plan on keeping it. I'm hoping software improves the obstacle avoidance, which is my biggest concern at the moment. I also hope Roborock continues to improve it's suction/hair pickup performance - i really hope youtubers also create better tests for this. A lot of these guys say these newer robots are "perfect" at it and it's just not been my experience at all. They are getting better - in fact tangles seem solved, which is great, but they also leave a ton of hair behind.. even when compared to older robot vacuums but especially compared to a Dyson or something. **If anyone has any questions or wants anything specifically answered let me know ill do my best to respond.**

It does okay. It's still short of my old neato and way short of my Dyson but it does a significantly better job than my S7 MaxV with rubber brush. Notably with hair pickup - where it does as good if not better than the S7 MaxV with bristle brush but with zero tangles. As far as actual cleanup of fine dirt and hair, my ole neato still wins. 

It does okay. It's still short of my old neato and way short of my Dyson but it does a significantly better job than my S7 MaxV with rubber brush. Notably with hair pickup - where it does as good if not better than the S7 MaxV with bristle brush but with zero tangles. As far as actual cleanup of fine dirt and hair, my ole neato still wins. 

[My thoughts on the QRevo Slim after a week of using it](https://preview.redd.it/we5kcurop0wd1.jpg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91dd8e5313d098889a8a2e1667c66fffa852d2da) **Note:** [**My initial thoughts and unboxing images are linked on this thread**](https://www.reddit.com/r/Roborock/comments/1g4rkww/unboxing_preview_of_the_roborock_qrevo_slim_ama/) I’ve been using a S7 (no dock) for the past 3 years and loved it. Yes, it is a hassle to empty the dustbin and clean the mop pads every day BUT it was ridiculously good at what it did. The QRevo Slim completely changed my opinion on that. I’m not gonna spend time on what the others have done w.r.t. build quality, set up experience etc. but rather I wanna focus on the good and bad aspects of this product. # The Good 1. **The Dock** is arguably the best thing about having a robot vacuum – auto empty, mop cleaning and drying and the ability to refill and store dirty water for a week or two means I rarely have to touch my vacuum (which is a big win for me). There is no difference between this dock and the docks that come with other variants of the Roborock series. 2. **Suction Power** – I have a wool rug in my living room that sheds like a pack of german shepherds. With my S7, I still had to manually vacuum with my Dyson in order to remove both its shedding and dirt. The QRevo Slim however really does good work on carpets and rugs. Post a run with the Slim, my Dyson doesn’t pick up much debris or hair from the rug. The slide out front arm has definitely made a difference around deep corners in my home. I had to manually clean these with a handheld vacuum before. *But it’s not perfect and some debris still remains in the absolute corner.* 3. **Object Detection** – This was a game changer for me. Each night before I ran the S7, I had to manually move and rearrange items on the floor so it didn’t get stuck. With a kid and a dog, it’s easy to have toys under the rug, spoons in random places on the floor etc. My S7 would always get stuck on those and fire away an SOS in the app and I’d have to get outta bed and reset the robot clean cycle. The Slim has made me truly appreciate the *set it and forget it* style I prefer. Yes, I still do move/check for randoms but it doesn’t get stuck up on the stuff I’d miss. 3/4 score in my ultra scientific yet real world test! It even manages to dodge when my dog is sitting on the rug and shows a ‘Pet’ notification in the app! [My super scientific object detection test with real crap my kid and dog leaves around](https://preview.redd.it/8f6k4co5r0wd1.jpg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d7eaaba68ebcb3ad4537fdc21f6e259f0aa18f7) [Wires - not a problem!](https://reddit.com/link/1g8folf/video/spjpvfeer0wd1/player) [It did manage to 'touch' the flip flops but didnt mess up](https://reddit.com/link/1g8folf/video/xxz15rijr0wd1/player) [Nudged the ball but didn't get stuck on it like my S7 did](https://reddit.com/link/1g8folf/video/3exydktpr0wd1/player) 4. **Mopping Ability** – Just out of curiosity, I ran my old S7 in a specific area for a vacuum and mop cycle. I then followed it with a cycle on the QRevo Slim. It still managed to show up as dark brown water after the mop cycle! This was an eye opener as it meant that the scrubbing ability of the rotating mop heads made a difference on my hard wood floors. It even managed to scuff out certain markings my kid made with a marker on the floor. The slide out mop arm makes a difference around the entry way of my house (near the front door) and near the backyard entrance, for sure.   [Goddamn kids and their marker pens](https://preview.redd.it/z16pcdmyr0wd1.jpg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c5c2cf4fda48a9fdeae54455b9ca0a4fbe5a4ee) [After 1 run. I think it might get all of it after 2-3 runs.](https://preview.redd.it/m7np71acs0wd1.jpg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e3180a8e06d9b236267c78bedcc5d31fecab06d) [The moving arm and mop head make a difference around the edges of the room](https://i.redd.it/nj0iya5qu0wd1.gif)   5. **Routines and App Smarts** – Due to the way my house is laid out + the way I used to use my S7, I prefer to run a cycle in the kitchen and dining area (kids, they really do create a mess) and then I would manually empty the dustbin and clean the mop pads so it could tackle the rest of the house. The Slim allows me to set exactly such routines where it would first tackle those two areas – empty and clean itself – and then continue on with cleaning the rest without any manual intervention from me whatsoever! There’s also a matrix mapping option in the map although I am not sure what it really does or how it helps (Maybe the folks at Roborock can answer this?). 6. **Noise and general pain-in-the-ass’ness** – The slim itself is pretty quiet when in Balanced mode. When it does bump up the power on the rug in my Living Room, it is still quieter than my old S7 in Max mode. I could NOT watch TV in my living room when running the S7 on vacuum/mop balanced mode. I can however do this with the Slim. Do with this information what you will. It also manages to go under my kitchen cabinets which my S7 never could, due to the LIDAR turret.   [Mop Cleaning in action and how it sounds](https://reddit.com/link/1g8folf/video/277d981eq0wd1/player) [How the Starsight light looks at night + loudness when cleaning](https://reddit.com/link/1g8folf/video/fqn0rv5jq0wd1/player) The headlight for the Starsight feature is super bright leaves really weird shadows at night (when I run my cleaning cycles) so if you somehow look towards the stairs going down, it looks like folks with flashlights are in your home!   [Starsight Light - it's bright!](https://preview.redd.it/5nhddsqtq0wd1.jpg?width=2390&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=953e73b2fa559f9edb54d6bb1e355df94aea12e1) # The Bad: 1. During the very first run, the robot managed to lose its way back to the dock and took a tour around my entire house before it managed to reach the dock in order to wash its mop. This was after an initial mapping run had been done. 2. It also attacked its own dock during the first run but stopped doing so from the 2^(nd) iteration onwards. [arrrrr](https://preview.redd.it/eej2hf7js0wd1.jpg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7853c73ad3629da66beb764117b9c5c59184a3bc) 3. When cleaning in the dining area, my old S7 managed to go between the legs of all the chairs in order to clean the underside of the dining table. The Slim however refuses to navigate between the legs and do this. Not sure why since it definitely has enough space to manouever there.   [S7 cleaning the dining area](https://preview.redd.it/823cdfgws0wd1.jpg?width=493&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77a40489b533c3781b1d232d65237fe125816ef8) [Slim avoiding the underside of the dining table](https://preview.redd.it/ppl76p80t0wd1.jpg?width=493&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f16a3f9bb6e53a692191c7998c10250b09feff41) # Overall Thoughts: Had a friend with a ecovacs take a look and he quite literally went red. He showed me how his device needs to be regularly reset every 2 days cos it regularly forgets its mapped areas. The Roborock app experience has been fantastic for me and this is coming from someone who went through 3 x iRobot S9s after they all crapped out on me. **I would give the QRevo Slim a rating of 8/10** (*no product gets a 10/10 in my world lol*). It’s efficient, cleans well, definitely makes my life easier and is quite hassle free. If you have anything that is older than a QRevo S, it makes perfect sense to get this. Or you have money to spend and are somehow obsessed with vaccums then you do you. **Note: The unit was provided by Roborock in order for me to test out and review! #RoborockReviewCrew**

I’m really impressed with our Roborock S7 Max V. My concerns with a mower are: how would it do with rocks or sticks (would it avoid them?) and how would it handle dog poop (would it avoid it?).

Unless saros 10r has a different mode then cleaning order and task finishing notifications should be available. Worked at least with s7maxv

Hey op, I'm two years into your future timeline. My s7 maxV kicks ass!

I would suggest going to Vacuum Wars and looking at the latest video reviews. That YouTuber has the best and most objective reviews. Also Jamie Andrew’s is good if still doing them. Personally, I have a Roborock S7 Max V and think RR does a good product. But I don’t think $1600 is necessary to get a great robotic vacuum cleaner and wouldn’t spend that. I am also considering the E28 and the T50, but having spent $1200 when the Roborock S7 was top of the line, I think I can wait and get a great deal for $6xx between now and Christmas. If I needed one now, I’d consider the T50, but would scrutinize the reviews. For hard floors, I agree with another poster that the e28and roller mop might be the best choice, if money isn’t an issue. I think we’ll hear that the bin is small on the T50, but most other functions are solid and it’s at the top of Vacuum Wars list right now. But they have yet to review the E28.

I’ve been running the Roborock QRevo Curv for 3 weeks after upgrading from a Roborock S7MaxV and it has been excellent. No hair tangling with the split dual brush. The only issue I’ve had is small objects (2-5cm) getting stuck and halting the cleaning cycle. I have young kids and a wife who crafts. We have an extraordinary amount of the small toys and charms everywhere. I’m sure more than 95% of the population lol, so most should be okay.

My first vacuum was an ecovacs, I forgot the model though. It was working fine and I unfortunately replaced it with the Roborock s7maxv for the auto mop washing features, and have had tons of issues with it right around the 1 year mark. Now I’m back with the ecovacs t50 and couldn’t be happier

Yeah my previous one from 2 years ago was straight trash too, I’ve gone through quite a few brands at this point but randomly got the t50 pro recently to give them another shot. I’d say their app is on par with Roborock now, and the cleaning performance I’m getting from this one is miles above my old s7 maxv. Obstacle avoidance is still not the best but I’ve noticed if you run the intelligent cleaning cycles a few times, it gets better

Just replaced my S7 Max V with the Ecovacs t50 Omni and I’m loving it so much more than the Roborock

I purchased a Roborock S7 and the family liked it so much that I bought a S7 MaxV the following Black Friday. I have both running on different floors of the house. We’ve owned them for a few years now, and if they died tomorrow, I’d go out and buy whatever their top-of-the-line model is. As others have suggested, get the dock. It makes things so simple. I had a Roborock HA widget at some point, but I found it unnecessary so uninstalled it. I just use the Roborock iOS app. Once you map your house and setup a schedule, there’s not much else to do. FWIW I wasn’t familiar with the Roborock brand prior to all this. I watched this YouTube channel (Vacuum Wars?) that put a bunch of vacuums head-to-head through various challenges to see which ones performed best, and this seemed like a strong performer at that time. Best of luck. Hope this helps!

I purchased a Roborock S7 and the family liked it so much that I bought a S7 MaxV the following Black Friday. I have both running on different floors of the house. We’ve owned them for a few years now, and if they died tomorrow, I’d go out and buy whatever their top-of-the-line model is. As others have suggested, get the dock. It makes things so simple. I had a Roborock HA widget at some point, but I found it unnecessary so uninstalled it. I just use the Roborock iOS app. Once you map your house and setup a schedule, there’s not much else to do. FWIW I wasn’t familiar with the Roborock brand prior to all this. I watched this YouTube channel (Vacuum Wars?) that put a bunch of vacuums head-to-head through various challenges to see which ones performed best, and this seemed like a strong performer at that time. Best of luck. Hope this helps!

I briefly owned an s7 maxV and found it identified and avoided more obstacles than my L10s Ultra. The roborock pathing also seems more intelligent and would simply maneuver around the obstacle rather than having to look back three to four times to make sure it avoided the object(L10s U). Perhaps Dreame has come a long way, but I found the software and obstacle avoidance was far superior on the roborock.

I'd like to get your take on my situation. I need a robot for upstairs which is all carpet with two big, shedding dogs and lots of toddler and dog toys spread about. So no mop needed, but maximum vacuum power and top notch object detection ON CARPET are my two main priorities. I bought a Roborock Q8 Max+ and an S8 MaxV Ultra to test because they both have double rollers and ranked highly for on-carpet pet hair pickup on Rtings. I believe vacuuming performance will be approximately the same between these two robots, but it's the improved object detection of the S8 Max Ultra that I'm thinking might make the extra spend worth it. Is there anything else I should be considering with these specific requirements? The only other one I had on my radar is the Dreame X50 Ultra. Price is not an important factor to me, and I'm located in the US.

Thanks, I've got an S7 Max V downstairs that does a great job of not getting stuck on toys actually, but I understand that object detection performance is typically better on hard floors. If object detection on carpet is hopeless, and mopping isn't needed, then what advantage does the S8 have over the Q8? Seems like suction is the only thing, but I've read that having a well designed dual roller system is really the most critical factor when it comes to dog hair on carpets, so I'm not so sure that the S8 MaxV Ultra will really be better than the Q8 for my application. I guess time will tell! I'm super curious about the Dreame, because its on-carpet object detection is very strong. Perhaps a test is in order!

The S7 is abysmal with pet hair pickup on carpet. It's so bad, I don't even bother letting it try as it's just noisy and doesn't do much! Going to the Q8 with dual rollers has been a night and day difference (in the one day I've tried it haha). For now, the S7 will stay downstairs where it's mostly hard floors while the new robot will handle the all-carpet upstairs. We'll eventually upgrade the downstairs S7 as well, but then the choice will be much more straightforward as the newer models are so well rounded (at the sacrifice of good carpet pickup performance it seems). One thing that's certain is that the Dyson vis nav is not the right answer. It couldn't even find its dock after completing the upstairs mapping routine 🤦 😅

I have a roomba j9 and a Roborock s7 MaxV they do an okay okay of keeping up with one shepherd. Any top of the line unit should work just expect to fork over a good chunk of money. I know they Roomba “j” series gets a bad rep but I think they are great (yeah not as quite or fast as other but can be found a lot cheaper) what ever you do get a robot with a self empty base

S7 maxv is a $1000 robot while the l10S is a $400 robot. Compare the S7 maxv against the X30 or the X40 and you will find that the Dreame blows roborock out of the water, it's not even close. The QRevo slim is rated as having the best obstacle avoidance of all the roborocks and I purchased one because of that, in my real world testing on carpet and hard floors, it is significantly worse than the Dreame X40 and even my old Eufy x10. So maybe it's the best Roborock but that really isn't a high bar to pass.

Fair enough. In that case it looks like Dreame made a huge improvement with object avoidance with the introduction of their "X" series like the X30 and X40. Considering the QRevo slim is Roborock's best object avoidance offering, the S8 does do worse than it and by extension the S7 is last gen tech. Looking at all the comparisons, most rank the Slim above the S8 and the S7 and then the X40 is well beyond the Slim. It's a shame because roborock would be the best choice if their object avoidance actually was reliable and consistent.

I'm three years into OP future. My S7 maxV is now my secondary robot vacuum and I really like it.

Had my Saros 10 for a couple of days, seems to work well on my low pile carpet. Obviously never had a S8 before. I see people mention S10 is not great on carpet due to the hair detangling brush design, but personally I am loving this brush. My wife’s hair is quite fine and long but it’s doing a fantastic job reducing the amount of maintenance I need to do for the rollers. My S7 MaxV and Eufy L60 required me removing hair from the roller at least every few days. One thing I must mention is Roborock is not putting enough resource in providing updates for Saros 10. Their focus seems to be on the 10R.

Not who you asked, but I have a Roborock S7 MaxV (something like that) and it does the same as the other person's vacuum. We love it and it works great overall. I agree with the sentiment of others that it's 80% as good as doing it yourself and then you occasionally do the deep clean by hand.

It depends. If you’re like me and my fiancé, who hate cleaning floors, our Roborock has basically eliminated mopping and vacuuming, we haven’t done either in almost a year. Ironically the last time I touched my upright vacuum was to clean the robot’s filter. If you’re a stickler for spotless deep cleans, it won’t fully replace manual work. However for us, sending it on an extra pass makes everything look beautiful. We consistently have the cleanest floors amongst our friends. I love that it fits under all my furniture, so those areas are cleaner than they’ve ever been since I’d never move furniture when cleaning manually. For mopping, there are three main systems: vibrating pads (like a sonic toothbrush), spinning mop pads that reach into corners, and roller mops, which are closest to a true deep clean since they can apply more pressure and clean themselves as they go. Maintenance is easy I toss the pad in the wash once a month, and replacements are cheap on Amazon for big brands like Roborock or Dreame. For vacuuming, mine pulls carpet fibers, so my upright has become ornamental. We’ll probably grab a stick vac for emergencies when we move, but realistically it’ll sit in the closet. The only downside is hair. Without auto detangling, I pop the roller out once a week and clear it, which takes 30 seconds. So yes it fully replaces vacuuming and mopping for me- however if you want true deep cleans, you’ll still need to go manual occasionally Last thing I’ll add is another big plus is scheduling. Mine runs every other day to vacuum, and vacuums+mops in between, which is huge with three cats and a dog. Even if I’m on vacation, I come home to clean floors. It’s also been a godsend during depressive bouts, I used to let floors go for months, but now they stay clean no matter what. It’s the only smart home purchase I’ve made that made my place genuinely feel like a smart home.

That’s also what I have- love it

Go for Roborock, have my S7 MaxV for about 3 years now, does more than I'd ever imagine it would and never needed any more than the regular wipe-off cleaning

I rocked an S7 MaxV for almost 4 years, until it broke. Now I got a Saros 10R and wouldn't go back.

I have a Roborock that meets all these requirements. I believe that’s not the only brand. HA integration is excellent. I don’t think it has everything but it has more than I need. Edit: specifically I have a S7 maxv. I haven’t been keeping track of all the newer models but my guess is you wouldn’t need the top tier.

Thank you very much for your feedback. I am coming from the exact same place, having a S7 Max V and also having pets at home. Saros is not yet available in Europe but I was planning on getting it. Your feedback is quite worrying though ... Please feel free to give an update after a full week, see if you have a different opinion or if it stays the same with the same concerns

I had the s7 Maxv and now its on my second floor. I bought new s8 maxv ultra and does alot worse at obstacle avoidance than the s7 maxv. It literally went backwards in that aspect. I agree with the original poster. Why are we paying more for less. The s7 maxv also did way better on carpets. Only thing I love improved is the seld emty and refill dock which has been great.

Still. I own S7 MaxV and obstacle avoidance is nearly useless... and yet they managed to push it in wrong direction. Well, off to waiting for next gen I guess.

S7 maxv - mine is at 51km²/ 1471 hours of cleaning and going strong. Have a qrevo as well that was gifted us but still prefer the older s7. Could probably find a refurbished one well in your price range - upkeep has been basically vacuum bags, 6 or so filters now and 4 main brushes/7 or 8 side brushes. I replace based on condition and not the app suggestions.

Thanks for the objective early review. I'm waiting for the UK release to upgrade from my S7 MaxV, and pet hair is also one of my drivers. We have two long-haired cats who tend to leave an invisible layer of fur that floats on the carpet; it's not noticeable, but if you rub it with your hand it balls up into fluff. With the S7, we've tended to find that the silicon roller doesn't pick this up very well, with the benefit of that being it doesn't clog up, whereas if we swap and use the brush roller, it does a good job but clogs in minutes. It's good to hear from your review and others I've read this week that real-world performance with long hair seems to be really good. Could you clarify if the 10R has a RGB camera like the S7 MaxV? Cached versions of the Roborock spec reference it, but I've seen third-party comparison tables say it doesn't, and the official Roborock site doesn't seem to mention it any more.

It's a massive difference - day and night. We have two long-haired persian cats, and with my previous S7 MaxV I could either use the supplied silicon roller, which would tend to skim the film of fur off carpets into cloudy mats of fur that were still embedded in the carpet pile, or use the brush roller which would do a good job, but literally every room I'd need to completely detangle it at least once. Had the S10 with the DuoDivide for a couple of months now and the difference is incredible - it pulls all the cat hair out of the carpet and picks practically all of it up - what doesn't get picked up tends to be an occasional clump that's easily picked up by hand. I still expected to have to do some untangling from the brushes, but in two months of cleaning, I've not needed to clean the brushes once and they remain totally hair-free. I'd definitely spend the extra on a DuoDivide model in your situation.

I'm happy with mine as well. Luck of the draw, maybe? I had the Roborock S7 MaxV before and it's obstacle avoidance was more of obstacle attraction.

Roborock s5 bought 12/2019 currently used daily to vacuum master bedroom 688 hours and 409k ft2 Roborock s7 maxv plus bought 12/2022 currently used to vacuum basement nightly 1592hrs and 866k ft2 Roborock s7 max ultra bought 7/2024 currently used to vacuum and mop main floor 1096hrs and 535k ft2 No significant issues with any of these. Have not had to repair or replace any parts except brushes and mop pads

Even ancient og Roborock S5 will absolutely outshine this thing. They can often be found used for like 80usd just because the included charger costs like 50usd and fits all roborocks. The S5 can be held alive forever with cheap original parts from AliExpress. If you have more cash then roborocks MaxV models often go used pretty cheap and especially the S7 MaxV is fenomenal.

From my experience. Roborock Q8 very good for the price, S7 Maxv little better than S8, both great, Dreame L10S Pro as great. The newer more expensive stuff is even little better like X40 Ultra, but it has the docks.. Electrolux i9.2 had suprisingly good obstacle avoidance, could even avoid small cables, but god did that robot suck in anything else.

I have a Roborock vacuum/mop combo (S7 MaxV Plus) that is a few years old now and still going strong! I have vinyl/tile floors and few area rugs, and we never really have golden tumble weeds. I made my decision after watching videos on the Vacuum Wars Youtube channel: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meXb09Ywgq8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meXb09Ywgq8)

Hola! Por casualidad pudiste probar con las sillas tubulares metálicas? Es el mayor problema que tengo yo con el S7 MaxV y según la publicidad el StarSight 2 es capaz de reconocerlas.

I’m sure with software updates the obstacles avoidance will get better. It’s only the 3rd day being released.

When I first got my s7maxv it was terrible, but after a couple weeks it got updates and fixed the issues I had with it, specifically the obstacle avoidance. Now updates may not fix it, but I’m betting on it fixing it soon. It’s new tech it’s going to be buggy. If you aren’t willing to have problems at release wait a few months and see if the updates will fix the problems.

I live in a 2 story home. First floor is all LVP and marble. My Roborock comes out twice a week; once for vacuuming and sweeping, and once for mopping. My wife is a stickler for clean floor (Asian), and she haven't mop first floor in years.

Roborock S7 MaxV. It mops pretty good and i am happy with it (well my wife).

Agree robot vacuum is one of best purchases ever. I will say you gotta get a quality one though. Obstacle avoidance, no go zones, auto empty etc.

i've been impressed with roborock's offerings. i've had my s7 max v for a few years now and it generally seems to work well and not get stuck or lost usually after programming the map. i am not up to date on the latest offerings of all the companies though. my main point was get one with like obstacle avoidance and higher end features otherwise it'll always get stuck or require constant emptying which just defeats the entire purpose of having a "set and mostly forget" device do your vacuuming and mopping

As others have said, Vacuum wars have some great comparison videos with stains (and I think the channel owner is a moderator on this subreddit now.) I have an irobot J7+ (just vacuum, with auto-emptying dock) and a Roborock s7 maxv, which is a vacuum and mop combo. I don't have the dock, because I foolishly believed like many others I could buy it without it, and get the dock for cheap later on. The mopping function is fantastic, and is great for cleaning footprints, dirt, and very light stains. Doing 3 or so passes on the same room can do a somewhat better job, but tough stains will require manual cleaning eventually, and I suspect that will be the case regardless of the vacuum you get. It's definately worth it to have though, and saves a ton of effort and time in my case. I also have a regular cordless vacuum/mop combo (A Tineco Floor One S5), which I would not recommend. It works decently enough (although it also doesn't get tough stains, which is what I was hoping for), but cleanup is a pain. I've only used it a couple times in months, and usually send out the other robot vacuums first to get up all the hair and debris to make cleanup easier when I do. **Shop around for a while, but don't order until Black Friday or something like Prime day. Usually you'll get 30-45% discounts on models you're interested in.** Auto-emptying docks are a godsend, and bigger batteries are also really important, IMO. My J7+ often has to charge 1-2 times to finish the job, and over years batteries degrade and get weaker. I've heard good things about later models of self-cleaning and emptying versions of the mop parts as well--earlier ones had issues with drying the mop pad. TLDR: Mops are definitely worth it.

My Irobot J7+ and Roborock s7 maxv have significantly different power, but not in that sense. The Roborock can go far longer without having to return to the dock and charge, while the irobot often has to charge 1-2 times before finishing the same job. Navigation and mopping are also obviously better. Bigger batteries are key as the machines age, since you can't replace batteries easily. I also have a roborock qrevo with the full dock (which my other one lacks), and it's so much more convenient that it fills the water and cleans and dries the mop all on it's own, as well as emptying the dirt. The J7+ Does have a bigger dirt bag, but it clogs more often IMO.

The S7 maxv does really poorly with pet hair. Gets tangled in the brush all the time. Don’t recommend that one.

Had the S7 MaxV for 3 years and since monday the Saros 10. Have no issues and everything seems clean. It's also the first robot to vacum our high pile carpet so thats a huge win for me.

my Roborock s7 vmax is 3 years old at this point so im considering the saros 10R or Ecovacs X9 Pro Omni. Leaning towards the 10R but waiting to see what kinda deals are out there

Roborock s7max v ultras have a camera and you can drive the robot around.   It announces to the world when the camera is in use.  My experience,  though, is if the robot gets stuck, the camera and remote control are rarely helpful.  It's also laggy and awkward.

Correct.  It does not vacuum when manually driven as far as I can tell.  You can resume vacuuming, though. Sometimes is is good enough to unstick it when stuck, but rarely. For a basic home inspection device, it could work, but is slow and awkward. 

The q revo master has been doing pretty well at avoiding cables. Sometimes the mop gets stuck and the mount comes off but a lot less than my s7. Vacuum wars on YouTube also rated it the highest for avoidance with AI and its cameras

We have the S7 love it.

If all you care about is the vacuuming performance, the dyson robot vacuum is the best performer (especially against fine dust and deep carpets), If you want other commodities/features, then the roborock S7 is good. The s8 and newer units have more features but decreased vacuuming performance. I wouldn't get a roomba unless you value support/warranty the most, irobot vacuums aren't the best anymore but they do support their machines for a long time and support is better than what you will get with roborock/dreame/dyson. Regardless of what you choose, modern robot vacuums will do a good job.

No it's not bad advice, vacuumwars tests are often not representative of real world scenarios and fail to mention some of the degradation modern releases have had over older robot vacuums. To be fair, on his review of the S8, he did mention the reduction in performance over the S7, however, he didn't showcase how bad it is compared to the old S7 (particularly against deep carpets and tiled floors). You can see what I mean on this channel: [https://youtu.be/VVnX3uhBiTQ](https://youtu.be/VVnX3uhBiTQ) , the owner uses multiple carpets of different density and materials, uses certified test dust along with other challenges that you'd expect robot vacuums to be able to deal with (tiled floors, hard floors, etc). You can find similar reviews on asian blog posts (chinese & japanese in particular), where roborock gets way more critiques for overhyping their products and reducing the quality of new releases while having zero after-sales support.

Software wise, yes, manufacturers will purposely stop delivering software updates to older robot vacuums and ship them only to newer flagships. Hardware wise, I have had much better luck with my units, I bought my s7 when it was released and its still working fine with no obvious issues.

[https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1jy72xd/why\_are\_new\_robots\_seemingly\_getting\_worse\_at/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1jy72xd/why_are_new_robots_seemingly_getting_worse_at/) New models are awful when you look at the vacuuming performance. The S7 is the best model roborock has made as far as vacuuming performance goes.

The roborock S7 has objectively the best performance while keeping some autonomy (dock station, etc). Newer units have more bells and whistles but are worse at vacuuming (better at mopping, generally). The s7 is fairly 'old' by now, but you can see the raw benchmarks of new vacuums to realize that... yes, new units are slightly more hands-free but are worse at cleaning. The Dyson Vis Nav is a good choice if: \- You find it on sale (799 - 899). \- Your house is relatively clean (not a lot of objects and all that). \- You value raw vacuuming performance above everything else (it's the only vacuum that has about the same performance of a handheld device). No dock station, but you can avoid emptying the dust container for several weeks since dust gets fairly compacted. Regarding puke, new units have cameras and advertise fancy AI, but whether the robot detects the mess is a gamble, you might be lucky once and have the robot miss the second time. The only vendor that used to have (still has, maybe?) some protection against this was irobot and iirc they only covered poop messes, so puke/pee was not covered by their warranty.

Understood, I was in a similar situation (in my case, it was a family member with OCD, vacuuming more than 7 times a day. Given the decorative objects, the vis nav is likely not a good fit. I'd say the roborock s7 is the best solution if your mom is constantly cleaning, especially if she owns a dyson with laser. New robot units will make the floor look clean to the naked eye, however, not a single one will clean traces of fine dust that lasers highlight (or that you'd notice walking bare foot). I have tested many of the new models and I keep going back to either the vis nav or the S7, these two are the only ones that have decent vacuuming performance. There is one tiny exception to this rule, which is that new units while worse at vacuuming, make up for the performance loss with the upgraded mopping, so depending on your floor, you might not notice the degraded vacuuming performance if you run both mopping and vacuuming at the same time. I made a thread about this a few months ago (complaining about the degradation in vacuuming performance), the tl;dr is that people on reddit don't care and just want something that works constantly. The sentiment on youtube seems to be slightly different with more people complaining about the numbers though. [https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1jy72xd/why\_are\_new\_robots\_seemingly\_getting\_worse\_at/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1jy72xd/why_are_new_robots_seemingly_getting_worse_at/)

As disappointing as it is, older robots are objectively better at vacuuming. They don't have all the fancy features but it is what it is. The roborock s7 is still a solid option

I also have the s7 and I would say the q revo looks and Sounds Better.

The axel shaft snaps out and snaps into the swivel assy. I use a flat screwdriver with gentle pressure to snap it out and finger pressure to snap it together again.

Hi everyone, I have a Roborock S7, and even though I clean it regularly, it often looks like the photos I’ve attached after just one(!) or two cleaning runs. Long hair, in particular, seems to be a huge issue – it constantly wraps around the main brush and even the small front wheel. I don’t have an auto-empty dock, so I clean the robot entirely by hand. At this point, I feel like I’m putting more effort into maintaining the robot than I would if I just vacuumed manually. I’ve tried everything: cleaning it more frequently, taking precautions like removing hair beforehand, but nothing seems to help. I wouldn't say that my flat is dirtier than average. Has anyone had similar experiences? Do you have any tips to fix this issue, or should I just start looking for an alternative? I’m seriously questioning if the robot is still worth it, considering how much time I spend cleaning it. Looking forward to your thoughts and advice!

I would say when I bought the robot three years ago, it was never as bad as it is now. (Although I haven’t changed anything)

I have a Roborock S7 and I've easily got parts from AliExpress i.e. Filters, side brush, mop pads, water tanks, and I'm confident I could get parts like wheels if I needed to do actual repairs. I haven't needed to get parts regularly in the 3.5 years I've had it, just the one off or to have a spare ready for replacement

You just made me buy a Qrevo Master. My gf has long hair too and my s7 is suffering with hairs on brush.

Get a Roborock, I recommended mine (S7 or S8) to my friend with 3 dogs and 1 cat and it keeps their floors so nice. It (no exaggeration) saved her sanity. It’s pricey, but it actually works and works well. You have to keep the base station maintained but it’s so simple to clean.

Currently using a Dyson animal 3, and a roborock qx Revo. And an s7 down stairs. Those battery stick ones from Amazon crapped out too fast.

I had a few different ones, all crap. Then I tried the roborock S7. I don't have a dock and honestly it's enough. I anyway like to keep the mop clean. Ordered a bunch of mops and stuff from AliE. Works great. Saves a few hours a week.

I LOVE MY S7. Things been daily vacuuming my room for 4 years with minimal maintenance. Mopping twice a week. I have 3 parrots so the floor ALWAYS has something on it. Bird poo, food, small chunks of wood, doesn't matter robots got it covered. I've abused the hell out of the poor thing lol

Well bird digestive systems are a bit different from a dogs. They move food through their gut so fast it doesn't have time to ferment or develop a smell unless they are sick. The vac/mop robot has detachable mopping pads that can be machine washed though. I don't know how well it works with dog urine but they generally look brand new after a wash. The pads do wear out over time but most of mine have lasted all 4 years I've had them.

Yeah a lot of ppl on the internet just push spending 2 grand for a robot without much thought or ROI smarts. Btw I bought the roborock S7 with the cyclops self empty base for $250 ish , it was over a grand new . When I got it I cleaned it real good , opened it all the way , I replaced all the filters , etc, had a lot of fun refurbishing it myself and getting to know it , and saved some CASH

Coming from the S7, I’m genuinely impressed how fast and how far the vacuum and mopping robots have improved over such a short time. For me the best perk is that I no longer need to interact with the robot ( topping up water tank and frequent manual mop cloth change). I understand that the Z70 is essentially the 10R with an added arm. The robot mostly recognises fabric such as towel and socks as object it could pick up and put into the designated storage bin. It did false identify the piano legs as a fabric today. Not sure why. Since the identification is not 100%, the robot does not automatically pick the objects up during cleaning but pins the item in the map and allow you to send the robot to pick up the object and place it into the storage bin. Still learning how to use it. If anyone has useful tips, please share

Yea I had the basic S7 and a charging dock. Auto cleaning, binning, and water top up docks wasn’t a thing then. As I mentioned, one of the pain points I had with the S7 was the need to regularly maintains the robot; clear bin, top up water tank, clean and change mop cloth, clear hair stuck on rollers and brush. The latest models Z70/10R with dock eliminates all these now (I hope it does!)

Performs about same as S7 https://youtu.be/08SC1tb69j4?si=ddRuVnLkplrfUqeR Sometimes not as on some carpets due to the brush design

Thank you for the explanation The one you see app that I do have is related to the smart scale and it has that same odd conversion aspects to it that you can see “this is obviously not a built from the Ground Up designed app”. Definitely not an app designed in the US which just causes dates to be odd, periods where there should be commas,and vice versa, etc Roborock , the two vacuums that I own by them, the S7 and the Flexi Pro, both have great app function ability as far as the above issues with other apps go.

I have a Roborock S7 and manually empty the dust bin and change the mop pad before each run. It’s super easy and pretty satisfying to see all the stuff that got picked up. Mop pads get tossed into laundry with shop towels and cleaning rags. I bought a pack of spare mop pads off Amazon a few years ago and they were cheap and have held up well. As for the mapping, I moved things like chairs, plant stands and other small things off the floor for the initial pass so it could get a better idea of the layout. I left big things like tables, bookcases and heavy furniture that I’ll never move. When I run the robot sometimes I move the smaller things, sometimes I don’t. It’s smart enough to know when something is in the way and just works around it. The next time if that thing isn’t there it just cleans as normal.

I have a Saros 10r and two long hair cats, and all the other hairy things. I have been very impressed with it compared to my previous models, the s7 and s8.

I have the Roborock S7 I got on sale for Amazon Black Friday (believe $380?) and I love it. It includes a water mop pad which maybe not cleans super well but removes all footprints on our wood floors which looks like. I bought it in 2023 and still going as brand new. I do replace parts like the brushes and filters when the app tells me it’s due for replacement; although I double the time as I think the parts are fine. Have about 550hr+ runtime and working like a charm. When we update our basement I’ll move this one down there and replace with a new one. Roborock sells some with auto dust unloading and auto mopping which imo is a lot more money. I’m happy with manually emptying since it’s good to inspect the robot every so often and get any hair out of the brushes.

Jumped from S7 to Qrevo Edge and it's great! We have girls at home and that long hair got stuck on the S7 all the time. I haven't been needing to remove any hair from the Edge.

Roborock Saros 10R cleaning performance review https://youtu.be/08SC1tb69j4 3 carpets included using certified test dust. Depending on carpet it is even outperformed by a s7 (your s8 is also worse than the s7) It is not a good vacuuming robot.

I have a roborock s7 since years and it still works

I agree. I have hair just above the shoulders and it would get very stuck on my roborock s7. Ive recently upgraded to Mova p50 pro ultra and after running it for a week I see no hair on the brush and a lot is getting in the bag in the basestation.

I always think about the S8, but my S7 is rocking pretty good. I have a lot of deep carpet and cat litter, so it works hard.

I have a Roborock S7 that's still doing well after 3 years. I've had older model robots die after 2 years. But the lifespans seem to be improving. Another factor is that the technology keeps getting better fairly rapidly, so it's often tempting to upgrade after 2-3 years.

S7 / S8 Ultra docks have an extra complex mop washer which is not needed in a Qrevo. It tends to get messy in the dock tray and the thing is hard to clean because it's not removable. Furthermore it makes the docks expensive and thus less economical. If you can't stand your appliance being covered with residue, don't buy. The revo tech needs less maintenance.

I completely understand where you're coming from. I also have the S7 and felt it was time for a change. I first tried the L40s, but I just couldn’t get past the battery life and duration. Then I moved on to the Curv, hoping it would be an improvement, but unfortunately, it didn’t meet my expectations either. This week, I’m planning to give the 3i and Mova V50 a try. If they end up being similar to my previous experiences, I might just go back to my trusty S7. It seems like robot vacuums are still figuring out the right balance between AI integration and effective mopping techniques.

Def not Roborock. We bought a S7 and it broke down just a little over a year. Sent it into to get repaired and had to pay to some weird PayPal account. And it was packaged very poorly when shipped back. Then it broke down again after a couple of months and we gave up on it.

Hey, I bought it refurbished thru amazon.es for 400eur, you can send it back no questions asked (whitin a couple days from purchase). I found it out after my 2yo roborock s7 ingested water and broke, I got full refund before they even recieved the item back. But I do recommend you stick to roborock official seller on amazon. If you're going this route I'd wait until February for all the returns from christmas

Please dont buy an roomba maybe an refurbished roborock they also haf great quality and longeity. Maybe an s7 ore the q8 q7 q5

Cool thanks for thanks for sharing. I might buy one to try then cause my roborock s7 is starting to feel aged with no water tank in the dock.

Having two dogs I would go on record saying that the S7 does a less worse job than the S8 on short pile carpets. But still to get it somewhat okayish clean, I use a normal vacuum twice a week

As an S7 and S8 owner I fully agree. But what is important to keep in mind is thatbthe robot does not mean you stop cleaning yourself, you just do it less often. For general day to day maintenance robota do a fantastic job but they do not replace your normal mob or vacuum

Well, look at your hand, their paws are nearly as big as that. So if it is rainy/muddy outside, they carry a lot of dirt into the house. Theoretically we could stop them at the door and clean their paws but even then they will retain dirt on them and carry it inside. Specially also with their longer fur all over the body that you can not really clean/dry properly outside. So if you want your floors to be somewhat halfway clean, you need to mop them daily (at least once). So yes, for us, the mopping robot makes a lot of sense and is a real help. Regarding the Bernese breed, I feel it is important to keep in mind that the breed was created to be a guard dog for farms. So they need training and clear guidelines. One of their downsides is also that they tend to not live very long. If you put in the time to train them, they are amazing dogs. If people get fooled into seeing a big, lazy cuddly dog, that tends to be when they are negativly surprised. A breed that easily comes in at around 50 to 60 kg requires some work put into their training, otherwise the dog will walk you.

My robots are too old to have cameras onboard. But I am also not really missing that specific feature. Also for me obstacle avoidance has reached its peak one or two years ago in terms of actual usefullness

I moved away from iRobot into a Roborock S7. In my opinion the 980 was peak Roomba but these newer models are just junky. The Roborock S7 is solid. It seems to pick up just as well as the 980 but with the added benefit of mopping. I've got app experience with iRobot, Neato and Roborock. The Roborock app works quite well and I find it easy to set up no go zones. It does a good job reminding me when it's time to replace the brush or clean the sensors. It's also nice that Roborock has an online store with plenty of OEM replacement parts if they are needed.

Roborock s4. I've had two since covid. They clean weekly. No issues. I've also had a s7 mopping for about 3 years. No issues as well.

Olá amigo, sou do brasil também. Um amigo trouxe um Saros 10R dos EUA terça-feira. Robô fantástico, eu sai de um Roborock S7. Eu pegaria o topo de linha mesmo, o Saros 10 no seu caso.

I have S7 and cannot compare to other models, but also cannot recommend the s7 for a flat with two long haired cats and two long haired people as we have. The cleaning is easy, but frequent.

I have S7 and cannot compare to other models, but also cannot recommend the s7 for a flat with two long haired cats and two long haired people as we have. The cleaning is easy, but frequent.

I have S7 and cannot compare to other models, but also cannot recommend the s7 for a flat with two long haired cats and two long haired people as we have. The cleaning is easy, but frequent.

I only had a single problem with my Roborock S7. A pipe burst while we are away and the poor thing tried to vacuum a inch of water. I replaced the vacuum module and it is working flawlessly 1 and a half years after the incident. The fix was 12 dollars and 2 hours of my time.

I like my Roborock s7 more than any iRobot I have owned.

How has it improved? I’m still using a base model S7 from about 3 years ago. This looks like a great sale if the model is fairly current.

It sounds like you need a versatile robot that can handle both mopping and vacuuming without making your rugs and carpets wet. I've tried the Roborock S7, which has a strong vacuum feature combined with a mopping system that lifts when it detects carpet, keeping everything dry. Another option to consider is the Ecovacs Deebot Ozmo series, known for its advanced mapping and smart home integration, which helps optimize cleaning patterns. Both offer features that reduce the risk of wet carpets. If you're still unsure, checking out reviews on ConsumerRating could give you a clearer idea since they cover a wide range of models and features.

The S8 Max Ultra is a strong contender for sure! I've had great experiences with the S7, which nails price-performance ratio without the hefty price tag. Checked out other options on sites like Tom's Guide and ConsumerRating too. They've helped streamline my choices quite a bit! Knowing the cleaning area size and mapping needs can also guide your pick. Happy vacuuming!

So, I've tried both the Roborock S7 and Ecovacs models for taming my furry kingdom. The Roborock S7 is a beast with pet hair and even mops like a ninja. Seriously, it dodges toys and shoes like they’re hot lava. I had a jolly good experience with that one when my ol' Ecovacs decided to become a chair magnet. But I got a friend who swears by their new Ecovacs Deebot X1, even says it sings when it dodges socks. ConsumerRating actually has a sweet comparison thingy that breaks down what's buzzy fluff vs what's solid. Honestly helped me dodge some real duds.

I have had a Roborock S7 for the last 2 years and before that I had a Samsung for like 3 years (no emptying dock station). Both purchased as clearance items after either Black Friday deals or Christmas left overs at larger retailers box stores. I have 3 large dogs - hardwood floor, minimal door mats, and tile in bathrooms only. I love love love having them!!!! They have helped me so much! In areas that my dogs are in the most, I split the room themselves into 2 sections in the map. That way it goes back to empty itself and does not overwhelm the vacuum. I still have to bust out my shark vacuum to go under furniture that it does not fit under. I haven’t even tried the moping feature yet!! Ugh— not sure why but gotta get on it.

The narwal freo z ultra and freo x ultra both have anti tangle brushes. In my 1+ months of using both of them, no hairs has ever got stuck in the brush or the axle. My wife has super long hair which always annoys me - gets stuck on the regular vacuums brush and the roborock s7 (axles, not on the rollers). But with the narwal, I never had to clean them once. Narwal does a pretty good job of vacuuming and mopping but the app isn't mature and the same goes for the robots themselves. They have some quirks - the mapping/ map updating kinda sucks sometimes and both the robots I had to re-map the house at least 2-3 times. Also, splitting rooms or modifications to the map also has some quirks that annoy me so much. I also had some concerns on privacy so I returned the freo z, still have the freo x, will use it for a bit and decide. The only thing holding me from returning the narwals was/is the anti tangle brush.

Small wheel is removable. Just pull from one side of the wheel and it will come out easily.

I have all hardwood and use two devices. The Roborock is an excellent vacuum and I like their ap the best. I have an older S7 but it still powers through my 3 dog house. And a narwhal which does a 80% good job at mopping. Together my house stays pretty clean ;)

I feel like this is accurate for me as well but maybe its a lifestyle choice. I use mine mostly while home so I can pick up tag toys ect before it goes. I usually clean it out before use and remove any hair ect from the roller dumping the dust bin. I have an older S7 with a self empty doc that I dont really use. Next time i think Ill look for a quieter machine. That is my family's biggest complaint.

I've used roborock and it has been extremely solid, I had the s5, and I still use it in my garage, it's been going for 7 years or so. Now I've got the s7 and it just works, needs very little maintenance. Had it for 3-ish years now.

My Roborock S7 does about 2,000 sqft twice a week since 2021, and it's still going strong

I agree with luikiedook but am nervous of Dreame hardware reliability. Roborock is my favorite brand but I recently picked up a Eufy S1 Pro. It has been amazing. I have a Berner and a Husky but haven’t had any tangles in the short time I’ve owned it. My Roborock S7 has lasted for years, is still going and feel their flagships will still do the same. I know OP doesn’t have much carpet but for those that see this: I recommend Duo-divide for hard floor and duo-roller for carpet. Interesting fact, Roomba pulls more hair out of the carpet in one pass. Doesn’t matter because it’s also left on top of the carpet.

I have the same model and can agree it is awesome. The only downsides: - Once a two months or so it gets crazy and the map vs reality is offset by half a meter or even more. Roborock gets completely lost, avoiding empty space as it thinks it's a wall and hitting to walls thinking this is the path to the next room. Restoring the map from backup solves the problem. - Once I restore the map from backup, all routines are unusable - they do not work and must be deleted and redone. - It does not automatically avoid the heating vents on the floor and gets stuck on it eventually. I have to use the "no go zones" in each room.

Vaccum robots are a must have if you have ever had one, you will never want to be without one again, especially if you have pets and fur and dust collects rather quick. They clean really good, you will be surprised and they easily reach places which would be hard to get to with a normal vacuum like under the bed or sofa. Even after months and years of only letting the robot do the work, I can‘t really spot alot, I would want to clean by hand except some really hard dried stains in the kitchen. Maintenance is very low, I have had my S7 for years and the only thing I do is empty the bin of the dock every other week, get long hair tangles off of the brush, wash the filter and swipe the sensors every month or so. Didn‘t have to replace anything yet. For newer models like my 10R I have to fill and empty the water tanks every other week and empty the dust bag probably every ~3 months i expect. It has a different brush design so there are no more tangles on them. In terms of obstacles, that‘s pretty much the main reason why I added the 10R to my other floor where my cat and his toys are, it has great obstacle avoidance.

I can only say positive things about my Roborock S7! Got it the day I bought my flat and it’s made my place always clean. Having a vacuum and a mop attachment is an absolute must if you have hard floors imo.

I am living the same nightmare! And each time I start tending towards a vacuum not from roborock, I remember this is nearly impossible to find any spare parts for non roborock models. With roborock vacuums it is not that easy either but I recently found (easily) an original replacement fan for my roborock S7. Unfortunately I broke something else just before finishing my repair, hence the research... I am currently considering the Qrevo Edge the most because it seems to be good enough at obstacle avoidance and obviously way better then my S7 in that regards considering it has no obstacle avoidance whatsoever. But it seems that I might have a better quality/price ratio with models from other brands (with poorer spare parts availability). Does anybody have any input on spare parts availability for all those brands? (I am based in the EU) If my S7 needed a fan replacement after 4 years, I would be reassured knowing a 800-1000 vacuum could be repairable 4 or 5 years from now.

I love the tricut brush. With my old S7 I had massive problems with my wife's hair. It was cutting in the brush constantly, it actually damaged it and I had to untangle it all the time. With the new brush I just have to clean the side from time to time but very rarely.

Used to have iRobot/Roomba. But after looking at a bunch of videos from the vacuum wars YouTube channel (extensive testing of all the brands), I went with Roborock. I’ve had the S7 for 2 years, and the S4 I gave to my MIL after upgrading (hers still works perfectly). It’s a fantastic machine! Mopping function is decent but not fully replacing manual mopping, just reduces how often I need to do it. Black Friday is coming up, so I’m sure there will be good deals.

I’m happy with the S7. The docking station of the newer models is a little too large, and adding that level of complexity raises concerns for me. Happy to see what happens in 5 years, as by then there might be some big improvements that are worth the upgrade. More likely, I’d consider looking into a dedicated robot mop if it gets great reviews.

My roborock S4 is 8 years old and my S7 is 3 years old with over 3,000 hours of run time and still going fine. So no least not for Roborock brands but that's why you buy the best!

1) Haven’t had an issue with two (longhair) cats, cat litter, and long people hair. Very worth it to me rather than vacuuming daily and I’m still shocked at how much hair gets picked up. 2) Don’t run it when you aren’t home. I tend to pick up the house a bit before running my S7, since I’ve had more than one cat toy get sucked up.

No. I’ve been cooking while it runs (s7, so different model) and it avoids my feet decently well. It’s a bit noisy so it’s not like I’d trip over it (and I try not to run it later in the evenings) to not annoy my downstairs neighbor.

I have a different model than what you’re asking about, so I can’t answer that question. On my s7, it’s easier if I pick up all the cat toys and put them away, rather than having them get stuck, jamming the robot, and then having to go pull the toy out and resume.

Dude like I said I have a different model, so yeah I don’t have obstacle avoidance as a feature. Hence why I pick up before running the robot. It’s not that hard. And yes there’s an app that pairs with the robot vacuum. Have you tried Googling or looking at reviews of the models you’re interested in?

I agree mostly with your review, but you’re underselling its performance because you happen to own an S7, which was a decent vacuum. I’ve used or own most of this year’s flagships and not one comes anywhere close to the Dyson on carpet. It makes them look like a toy despite all its annoyances and frustrations.

I can tell you what not to buy. Ecovacs. I can then also tell you that my roborock s7 is solid. That's all I can give.

Thanks for this, my S7 has been having trouble picking stuff up even after swapping the filters and brushes, and was considering replacing it. Didn't realize there was an internal one as well. I will give it a shot.

I've got a Roborock S7, so anyway my counter points * It does not have any features that require any more maintenance than lower models. Basically the trash container needs to be cleaned, mop cleaned, water filled. Basically what you'd expect from a vac/mop combo. Errors usually just involve cleaning a sensor. * It can map more than one floor, so your point is moot * I can just carry the robot up to the other floor and it works without a base * The run time is plenty, but I guess I don't have a huge house. It can return to the base and recharge, then begin cleaning again when it has enough charge to finish, so no big deal. * The house doesn't need to be clean but it does need small clutter picked up. I don't have a problem with that because I would have to pick up the clutter anyways, as part of maintaining a clean home * Noise levels.. its kinda loud sure, but thats how any vac is. Can solve it by not being home or on the same level when cleaning. It also adjusts suction so that its not as loud on hard floor, which is nice. * Emptying the trash takes 30 seconds, not a big deal since I only need to do it once every few weeks * There's no camera so its not uploading images of anything, I don't really care if a Chinese company knows the layout of my house anyway. * It doesn't require perfect furniture arrangement because it'll just go around things and adapt

Eufy is pretty good and great value for a robot that includes self cleaning mop. But I will say that the robot is a bit dumb in attempting to get over transitions between different height floors, compared to a Roborock S7 that I've used in the same space. My kitchen and bathroom tile was a centimeter higher than my hardwood floor in the hallway. My Eufy x10 would keep trying unsuccessfully to cross that threshold and eat up its entire battery. Sometimes the x10 will make it onto the higher tile, but then not realize it and navigate back off the tile. I've found that putting the robot into mopping mode helps it get over such floor transitions more easily. Or if I am in vacuum only mode, if I'm home I might give it a firm shove with my foot over the threshold. They contacted support asking for better programming to get over thresholds, but a half year later, I don't see any improvement. The robot needs to at least realize it can't cross the threshold and give up rather than keep trying... I have since moved to a renovated home with no such transitions between rooms, and the x10 is great.

We have a couple of rugs, my SO has long hair. And yeah our S7 looks the same. But the way I see it, the time It takes to remove hair and stuff is way less than vakuuming manually

Till you get the 107/108 error.

Seems to be a fairly common enough issue. It’s got my Roborock bricked at the moment. Some sort of circuit error with the left and right wheels

It’s a four year old S7, I didn’t even think about warranty.

I got a second hand S7 a year or two ago and it’s been amazing! Like new!

No it doesn’t have the self cleaning station. I got it for $400 and came with all the spare parts. Cleaning for this model is very easy. We have long carpet and tiles and it’s been great.

Did you have a problem with it that needed to be fixed? And how do you troubleshoot the issue? I've had 3 roborocks s7 in under 3 years and they all started having mopping issues after 8-9 months

At the time of Roborock S7, I hadn't heard much about ecovacs, dreametech and others that are up there now. Longevity, support, etc. considerations I went with S7. Now though it's a mess. There's really no right or wrong. They all do the same thing +/-. Even the most basic new comer has auto empty/dry story time etc. I'll tell you though. I had crappy roller mop that didn't do any "smart" things. I hated cleaning it. Not saying it's the best or anything but with Roborock F25 ACE and Dyson V15 I can do the whole cleanup full house in no time vs hours of cleaning of robot cleaner that I already have to do a pre-cleanup for all the toys we have around. If I leave them, they'll get chewed, tangled up.. it'll take robo 5x the amount of time to navigate around crap and by the time it cleans up some rooms it'll run out of battery. Sure, I still use it when things are tidy and it cuts down on my efforts but for quick clean up, standalone mop/vacuum is a must for me, that I discovered..

I have had an roborock s7 for years. I've been impressed with their app and the product overall. Getting a qrevo pro because I think they put out a good long lasting product. Haven't tried the pro yet though. Odds are you'll be happy with any of them.

Roborock with the fancy dock is where it’s at. My wife says it’s one of her favorite purchases of mine. I got the s7 nearly three years ago, it runs every day because pets, and we have to empty the base once a week. The big vacuum only comes out for quick spot cleans and the thicker rugs.

Hmm thats cool that everyone on here can afford the Eufy .. but my used roborock s7 works great for me. I had an irobot m6 and it was awful. Floor streaks and would get stuck on absolutely anything. Roborock is great all around brand for vacs or vac/mops

We have a Roborock with auto garbage collection / mopping (The S7, but there are newer models now). Quite nice. Highly reccomend. Also have one of the fancy switchbots (the S10) that automaticalls fills and empties itself directly from a water source... and highly do not reccomend. The navigation is worse than both the Roborock and a cheap knock off machine I bought years ago. And it leaks. Consistently. It sometimes even manages to flood things. Really really not ready for release.

We've had a roborock S7 for about 3 years give or take and it's still going strong albeit is beginning to fade. Only had to replace one part over that time for like $15. Needless to say it's exceeded my expectations. We use the regular roborock app so it's not integrated into HA for us.

I've had an S7 for four years and it's still going fine. The wifi protocol at this point is deprecated, and I haven't bothered to try to overcome that, but as mentioned below, I can just hit the clean button and off it goes. I have two shorthair cats that shed, shed, shed and shed and the S7 deals with it just fine. I only just had to buy a consumable parts pack last year.

I have the Saros 10 and a Golden Retriever. The previous S7 would tangle up but the Saros 10 does not. I really like the cleaning result and it makes relatively little noise.

I use, repair and maintain all sorts of robot vacuum cleaners from many different manufacturers. I have owned only Roborocks, including the S7 that we wore out completely, and our current lineup including a pair of basic S8s (charging dock only, no fancy features) and a Saros 10R. I am very familiar with robovacs! I am of the opinion that the S8 vacuums rugs and carpets much, much better than any other robovac in my experience. Hard floors and mopping are basic and relatively easy, and most robovacs do a decent job with them. Our home has a lot of foot traffic, pets and people with long hair. My basic test for how well a robovac vacuums is to have one vacuum our three carpeted bedrooms on its maximum suction setting. When it is done, I send in one of our S8s to cover the same area using its maximum suction setting. Whichever robovac goes first should pick up more dust, dirt and hair, right? Our S8s consistently come back with four to five times the amount of debris than any other robovac I have ever sent in first, including our fancy new Saros 10R. I have even sent in one S8 first, followed by the second one. The first one will bring back a full dustbin. The second one will be almost empty. There are many other similar situations that I have observed but do not test regularly, so I cannot really use them as any kind of fair comparison, but, observationally, the S8 seems to very consistently out perform any other robovac when it comes to cleaning rugs and carpets. Obviously, there are many other areas that are important when it comes to robovacs, such as navigation, mopping etc. I am not looking at these areas at the moment. As a vacuum cleaner only, our S8s out perform our Saros 10R so significantly and consistently, that I really only use our Saros 10R to vacuum under stuff that the S8s do not fit under. Otherwise, the Saros 10R is a mopping machine in our home. I have even consulted Roborock customer service extensively in order to find ways to improve its vacuuming ability without success. I am curious if anyone else has made any meaningful comparison between the S8s vacuuming abilility and any other robovacs. It is my gold standard for rugs and carpets right now, and nothing else has been able to come anywhere close it it. With how quickly our home gets dirty and full of hair, I run our robovacs daily through our entire house. Especially our S8s have very high milage on them. Has anyone seen any kind of robovac that out performs the S8s vacuuming ability in any kind of meaningful real-world test?

We had to retire our S7 due to excessive wear. That why I bought our first S8. Our robovacs get used a lot! Both of our current S8s have over 200,000 square feet (19,000 square meters) of history under their belts and are probably due for new batteries soon. The S7 is a workhorse and does very well. My daughter has one too and loves it. You would absolutely love an S8 for vacuuming rugs and carpets. It will pick up much more dust, dirt, hair, cat litter and other debris than the S7. There are fancier robovacs out there that do all sorts of amazing stuff, but I have yet to see one that out performs the S8 as a vacuum cleaner only. Even the Dreame X50, which has a very similar vacuuming module with much higher suction, does not do a better job. If you do decide to try an S8, I can only recommend the base model with charging dock only. The fancier versions with auto mop washing can be problematic as the mop washing system gets clogged with mud, and it is a pain in the neck to clean them at times. There are better robovac mopping systems available that are much easier to maintain than the ones on the fancier S8s. But one cannot beat them for vacuuming in my experience, although someone did talk about the Dyson 360 above. It may be a great option to explore.

Most fancy new robovacs with auto detangling rollers and insane pascal suction numbers cannot vacuum nearly as well as your S7. I think your S7 can even hold its own in terms of mopping ability with these fancy new models. The only thing one gets for a lot of money is convenience. But, if it can't vacuum well and mop reasonably well, I don't want it! The Saros 10R does perform better with navigation once the paranoid obstacle and pet avoidance settings are turned off. This fixes a lot of problems with them. However, this makes its navigation and obstacle avoidance abilities only a very small incremental improvement over lidar. I still prefer lidar. Why would one want to replace a trusty S7 without a good reason? It is an excellent machine! I am not trying to criticize, I am just curious. No matter how fancy and expensive a robovac is, it is still a very primitive machine made with very cheap plastic parts. It has barely enough computing power and memory to get the job done. Personally, I think people expect too much from them no matter how much they cost. I hope you find a replacement that meets your needs!

Wow! You are right! They are gone! I was just thinking of adding a third one to my collection just two days ago. That is really sad! Now it looks like Roborock doesn't make any model that lives up to my vacuuming standards. Sorry! If any S7s are still available this would be my next choice.

You can customize all of the stuff you are looking for with your S7 in the app akready. Create routines with custom settings for various areas in your house. It is quick and easy to do. Use these routines in your schedule. Ask Google for specific directions if you do not know how to create a routine. It will tell you. I hope this helps!

It is in the Roborock app for your S7'. Find Routine. It is in the same place you find Full, Rooms, Zone, and, if course, Routine for your cleaning settings. It is on the right and side just above the start button. You will be hard pressed to find a newer robovac that can vacuum better than what you already have. The S7s are excellent machines! While you are in there, make sure your robovac is updated to the latest firmware and you are using the latest version of the app. This is probably the best place to start before you look for anything else. Start with Settings and Firmware updates. Make sure you are on the latest version. Turn on auto updates. Then go to the Play Store and make sure your app is up to date.

The fillowing is from your original post. 1. Defined by room (sorry, you cannot do a zone) 2. Selected mode 3. Selected intensity 4. Triggered by 1 tap These four things together are a routine in the Roborock app. This you can already do in your app night now. I will send more details and photos in a moment.

How wonderful to have the opportunity to see the Roborock app in German! Thank you! It is very strange that you do not have the routine option in the German version of the app. Very strange indeed! I know the American version has this feature for the S7. If I change my language to German in the app, I still have the option for, "Programm." I use routines for everything. My app allows me to create up to ten routines. It is very rare for me to use any other options because everything I need to do has been set up as a routine. I can completely customize the cleaning of any room or collection of rooms. I can even create a routine to clean the same room more than once if I want to. I can then use these routines in my schedules. Now I understand why you are so frustrated about having to press a lot of buttons. I would feel the same way! I am sorry I could not help your further! Viel Glück mit Ihrem Roboterstaubsauger! Ich hoffe, Sie finden eine Lösung, die für Sie funktioniert!

I am reading this conversation with interest, because my beloved 960 died recently. Out of all my robo\`s, it is the one that picked up the most dirt. My S7 does not even come close. So, I am looking to replace the 960 with something a little more modern with better navigation app. Really want keep out zones. Having trouble picking something out. Mainly want good vacuuming, all hardwood floors. No carpets.

I have been with Deebot and Roborock for the last 8 years and recently bought a Yeedi M12 Ultra and absolutely love it. It is right around $600 right now on Amazon and keeps our hardwood and carpeted downstairs looking great. The machine itself is quiet, the base station is a little louder but does a great job emptying the vacuum, washing the mops and refilling the mopping solution. We have 2 kids with long hair and 2 large dogs, none of which have managed to tangle up the vacuum yet - a feat our Roborocks never accomplished. In your price range the Yeedi is ranked #2 by vacuum wars (link: [Best Robot Vacuum: Top 20 Best Robot Vacuums in 2024 | Vacuums Wars](https://vacuumwars.com/best-vacuum-cleaners/robot-vacuums/)), behind the Eufy X10 - but the $200 more was not worth it for the menial improvements. Hope this helps, happy to answer any other questions you might have! I spent way too long researching robot vacuums/mops and now have a bunch of knowledge in my head that I no longer need! Amazon link to the Yeedi we bought: [Amazon.com - Yeedi M12 Ultra Plus Robot Vacuum and Mop, Upgrade 11800Pa Strong Suction, ZeroTangle Technology, TruEdge Deep Mopping, Auto Mop Washing/Drying, Auto-Lift Mopping, Mini Omni Station, White](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DBQ8BHDG?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1). Edit - The mopping works fantastic, leaps and bounds better then the Roborock S7 we had before. The color of the used water in the base station is concerning, even after we manually mop the house, I can positively say the mopping is phenomenal on the Yeedi. The app is not perfect, it has AM/PM mixed up but beyond that it does everything we would need/expect from a vacuum app.

generally I'd agree with their ratings. of course, like all review sites, they only use one sample, and usually the earlier firmware version released. we've never had hair tangle issues (or since robot vacuums and regular vacuums have the same issue, it never seemed like a big deal to clean them once in a while), but they seem to prioritize it. I'm still not sold on docking stations. Many a time I'll find something stuck in my roborock s7 (piece of cardboard, whatever) that I wouldn't see if I used a dock. Vacuum wars certainly ranks good docks higher.

I started with a dumb robot and spent a lot of time 'robot proofing' the house so it wouldn't get stuck on cords, or trying to go under sofas and dressers. Adding bumpers under couch edges, raising up furniture with foam pads so it could go under, etc. and it still got stuck somewhere random 20% of the runs. the lidar and mapping go / no go zones completely changes the ability to complete the job. That is easier than dealing with a dumb robot. My roborock S7 rarely gets stuck. A roborock Q5 is $140! You could buy a new one if it broke after warranty and it'd still be cheap.

yeah, no carpets or pets, then you just need to much sure it can complete its run without getting stuck somewhwere. lots of objects that are in random places each day like toys? or fixed location like cables, planters, etc? as long as you get mapping / keep out zones, any robot will handle that. my roborock s7, (just lidar and bump sensors, no obstacle avoidance cameras) does fine. once in a while it'll eat a shoe lace and not complete the run. how crazy high are the thresholds? most robots can handle 2 cm, if more, then look at replacing it or getting one of the newer robots designed with 'legs' to raise up.

Not sure why so many upvotes. Had S5, S7, Q7 all above 3 years and battery is barely different from new. Maybe everyone in here live in castles I don’t know

I want to add, that the 'drying' of the S7 models is only room temperature air so the drying runs for minimum 2 hours with a quiet but noticeable fan. That is a bit annoying for us, because it lives near our dining table. I would go for the newer models with warm air, because the drying process is much shorter.

We have four roborock S7’s running in our 5,000 sqft office. Bought them since they first came out years ago. They run every day. We just replace the regular maintenance parts - rollers, mop pad, brush and clean sensors. Only last year did we replace the battery for all 4. Other than that, no issue at all, rock solid, very pleased that we also have them for our homes too. We are considering the Eufy S1 Pro with water hookups. We have wood floors and it would be nice to have a roller mop that cleans better than what roborock has. If Roborock has a roller mop with water hookups, we prefer to stick with them, the app is convenient and we like the product.

Not a single new Roborock until they fix their new brushing system, the cleaning quality have dropped alot since S6/7. Atm dream Ultra seems to be the best choice if you got the money.

I have a roborok 7 and I have white furred dogs that shed constantly. I run the vac every day and it does a good job to keep the white tumble weeds down from my dogs. I only have 2 rugs and every other day I will use the hand vacuum. It makes my house look clean and keeps the dust down so I also don't have to dust as often. I can tell a difference than the older models that randomly moved about your space. One of these days they will be able to handle the rugs! I hope...

Are you looking for only roborock? The roborock MaxV has no extending side brush for corner cleaning. Roborock’s side and edge cleaning algorithm is also rather conservative and won’t extend the side brush out to clean closer to edges if there’s like a toe kick or swing the extended mop(which dreame/MOVA does and Narwal does this too but with the mops only). > better mobility and avoiding obstacles Roborock’s obstacle avoidance lags behind other robots, even at this price range. TvT I’d check out the dreame l40 ultra or the MOVA p10 pro ultra if cheaper than the MaxV. Turns out it’s the p50 with the broken front wheel issue.

Roborock maxv is good. L40 Ultra if you can find if for 475 usd deal is a steal. I have the L40 U. It's amazing. It can detect poop easily. Tested in my house with my cats. But be aware no robo vac is 100% safe for this. Yet

It's my first robo vac for me it costed 850 euros 3 months ago. I did spec compared it. A friend bought the maxv they are also happy with it but it's more expensive here. It does hot water mop washing at the base station, hot air drying. Mop extend, arm extend and LDS lidar, light 3d sensor etc. 11k suction. I turned of carpet boost. It kinda damaged my patch work animal post carpets lmao too strong. I have two cats, mopping is very good house is spotless Roborock has a different mopping system. You can get tricut brush for dreame too. Definitely check other options L40 Ultra doesn't have water spill detection featuee and can't detect water bowls for pets (must set no go zones for them)

I got the MaxV at Costco a few months ago and love it. Have all hardwood floors with 1 area rug and does a great job. This is with 1 cat and one drooling toddler.

I have Roborock S7/S8, it's very reliable and worth the price. I've had it for 4 years now. Just need to keep the sensors clean and filters monthly.

Roomba's have pretty subpar mapping & navigation compared to most other brands. We have one (older) Roomba that relies on VSLAM for navigation and one Roborock that uses LiDAR; the difference is night and day. I would avoid iRobot on that alone until they change their tech.

For the price (£250) I am very impressed with mine. Its got LiDAR, a mop, empties itself, etc. Its really neat to watch on the app as it goes about your house and maps it out. Its only gotten stuck twice, and both times were on the same chair that has horizontal bars at floor level that it can get over if it runs at it head on, but can high side itself if approaching from an angle. Definitely does not replace vacuuming as a whole though as it just cant physically get into the corners, and the vacuum itself isnt enough to really suck stuff out of the carpet, more just pick up things on top. I treat it more like a broom than anything else, but having a pet it helps me keep on top of things.