Roborock - S7 MaxV

I’m really impressed with our Roborock S7 Max V. My concerns with a mower are: how would it do with rocks or sticks (would it avoid them?) and how would it handle dog poop (would it avoid it?).

I would suggest going to Vacuum Wars and looking at the latest video reviews. That YouTuber has the best and most objective reviews. Also Jamie Andrew’s is good if still doing them. Personally, I have a Roborock S7 Max V and think RR does a good product. But I don’t think $1600 is necessary to get a great robotic vacuum cleaner and wouldn’t spend that. I am also considering the E28 and the T50, but having spent $1200 when the Roborock S7 was top of the line, I think I can wait and get a great deal for $6xx between now and Christmas. If I needed one now, I’d consider the T50, but would scrutinize the reviews. For hard floors, I agree with another poster that the e28and roller mop might be the best choice, if money isn’t an issue. I think we’ll hear that the bin is small on the T50, but most other functions are solid and it’s at the top of Vacuum Wars list right now. But they have yet to review the E28.

I had a Deebot before (their first self empty doc). It kept falling off WiFi and wouldn’t clean. I dropped it and went to a Roborock S7 and that’s been fine. Back in the market to upgrade and I worry about X11 for this reason. But the spec list looks pretty solid. Torn…

I'd like to get your take on my situation. I need a robot for upstairs which is all carpet with two big, shedding dogs and lots of toddler and dog toys spread about. So no mop needed, but maximum vacuum power and top notch object detection ON CARPET are my two main priorities. I bought a Roborock Q8 Max+ and an S8 MaxV Ultra to test because they both have double rollers and ranked highly for on-carpet pet hair pickup on Rtings. I believe vacuuming performance will be approximately the same between these two robots, but it's the improved object detection of the S8 Max Ultra that I'm thinking might make the extra spend worth it. Is there anything else I should be considering with these specific requirements? The only other one I had on my radar is the Dreame X50 Ultra. Price is not an important factor to me, and I'm located in the US.

Thanks, I've got an S7 Max V downstairs that does a great job of not getting stuck on toys actually, but I understand that object detection performance is typically better on hard floors. If object detection on carpet is hopeless, and mopping isn't needed, then what advantage does the S8 have over the Q8? Seems like suction is the only thing, but I've read that having a well designed dual roller system is really the most critical factor when it comes to dog hair on carpets, so I'm not so sure that the S8 MaxV Ultra will really be better than the Q8 for my application. I guess time will tell! I'm super curious about the Dreame, because its on-carpet object detection is very strong. Perhaps a test is in order!

The S7 is abysmal with pet hair pickup on carpet. It's so bad, I don't even bother letting it try as it's just noisy and doesn't do much! Going to the Q8 with dual rollers has been a night and day difference (in the one day I've tried it haha). For now, the S7 will stay downstairs where it's mostly hard floors while the new robot will handle the all-carpet upstairs. We'll eventually upgrade the downstairs S7 as well, but then the choice will be much more straightforward as the newer models are so well rounded (at the sacrifice of good carpet pickup performance it seems). One thing that's certain is that the Dyson vis nav is not the right answer. It couldn't even find its dock after completing the upstairs mapping routine 🤦 😅

I got my Saros 10R yesterday around this time (purchased it myself). I'm upgrading from a S7 Max V. Had a Neato D7 before that and a Robock S5 Max and very briefly a Dreame X40 that broke. [https://i.imgur.com/NwJO3iC.png](https://i.imgur.com/NwJO3iC.png) **Few things before I go into it:** I live in a relatively small home. My first floor is mostly hardwood/tile with a 15x20' area rug in the living room. My second floor is all deep carpet. I have a long haired German Shepherd and a wife that both shed a fair amount of longish hair. I keep my rooms mostly tity but my computer does have a fair amount of cables/wires that are wrapped together, but run along the floor. My wife also has a Korg keyboard that has a foot pedal and she often leaves it on the ground. **Super Pros:** * General hardwood/tile mopping significantly better than the S7 Max V. My wife and I both noticed it immediately after the first clean I ran. It covered more areas, got closer to objects (the pivoting side mop helps a lot with that) it reached under my cabinets and it was able to get under two pieces of furniture the S7Max couldn't fit under. * Low Pile Rug performance is much better. I do wish I could set it to 2x crisscross every time on the area rugs.. but the mixed pattern will have to do. * It's way, way, way quieter. General runs are quieter. Max+ mode (or w/e its called) is way quieter. Mopping is now nearly silent. The transfer from robot to base is much quieter than the S7 MaxV. * The Anti-Tangle brush is actually Anti-Tangle. All my previous vacuums would get hair tangled in a single run - I'd clean them at least once a week (neato way more) to get all the hair out. After 24 hours, I see 0 hair stuck. Not one. * The feature set is more rich over the S7 Max. This one is a think a bit annoying because I feel like a some of these features the S7 could do, its just software locked.. but having the ability to do pet area deep cleaning, mixed pattern cleaning, the rug options + all the leave behind the mops, extensions, re-mopping, etc is all really cool. * The detergent dispenser is a nice addition over the S7 MaxV. * The ability to clean out the tray and the self cleaning stuff is super nice. **Kind of Pros but maybe a little not:** * Hair Pickup on carpet is better than the S7 MaxV but still worse than the Neato D7. * I confirmed this by running the S7 Max V first (with rubber brush), on my upstairs carpeted room - that I purposely haven't vacuumed in a week. S7 Max V barely got anything and had some wrapped around the edges - as it does. The Saros 10R filled about a quarter of it's bin - but no tangles! The Neato filled the entire, much larger, bin, the chute partially jammed with hair and the bristle brush was wrapped completely. Neato is still king of deep carpet cleanup (if you ignore how jammed full of hair it gets) * I think the takeaway here is that the Saros 10R is big improvement but I find Roborock still lacks with hair pickup on deep carpets - even area rugs, to an extent.. over much older vacuums. * Pivoting Side Brush is good.. sometimes? When it works, it obviously works and pulls stuff out of corners, I don't find it working that often though - especially under the cabinets/corner cabinets. It comes outsometimes for a bit then goes away. (this is with the AI Lab Flexi arm thing enabled). * Navigation seems similar/better. In terms of actually going around and finding how to get there, it seems quicker (i haven't timed it) and it does less random movements like my S7 Max V did both during and after its cleaned. **Cons:** * The obstacle avoidance seems worse, maybe even way worse? I know it's only been 24 hours and I know the system the 10R specifically uses is new, but so far it's been pretty bad at detecting things, especially cables. * Yesterday when I was messing around with it, it ran into one of my dogs stuffed toys and got stuck on it. It also decided to "jump" little tray tables I have under my sofa, and got stuck on a wire behind them. (I set this as a no-go from now on). * This morning was the first time I ran it on a schedule - I do it early before I wake up, but I woke up to it stuck on the cable for my Wife's keyboard, the mop got wrapped in the cable and it pulled it off. * Just an hour or so ago today, when I was testing the carpet pickup on the second floor, it ran into a sock under my nightstand and got jammed. * Kind of disappointing considering my S7 Max V maybe got stuck twice, in the entirety of 2 years I owned it. I'm chalking this up to a combination of bad luck, weirdness because it's trying to hop stuff the others wouldn't attempt, and relatively new firmware on a new type of obstacle avoidance system. I hope it will improve. * All the Bins are too damn small. * My dog blows his coat twice per year. When that happens my S7 Max V can sometimes get nearly filled with dog hair. I've had to split rooms up into subrooms in order to force it to go back to the dock more often to empty. In this case - the Saros 10R not only has a smaller bin, but it's better at cleaning hair. I can see this being a problem. * It seems to use more water than my S7 MaxV while mopping, yet the clean and dirty bin are both smaller. Which means more refills. * The gloss on the front of the dock is a fingerprint magnet. I hate it. **Conclusion:** Overall, again after only 24 hours, I think its' a pretty nice upgrade over the S7 MaxV and I plan on keeping it. I'm hoping software improves the obstacle avoidance, which is my biggest concern at the moment. I also hope Roborock continues to improve it's suction/hair pickup performance - i really hope youtubers also create better tests for this. A lot of these guys say these newer robots are "perfect" at it and it's just not been my experience at all. They are getting better - in fact tangles seem solved, which is great, but they also leave a ton of hair behind.. even when compared to older robot vacuums but especially compared to a Dyson or something. **If anyone has any questions or wants anything specifically answered let me know ill do my best to respond.**

It does okay. It's still short of my old neato and way short of my Dyson but it does a significantly better job than my S7 MaxV with rubber brush. Notably with hair pickup - where it does as good if not better than the S7 MaxV with bristle brush but with zero tangles. As far as actual cleanup of fine dirt and hair, my ole neato still wins. 

It does okay. It's still short of my old neato and way short of my Dyson but it does a significantly better job than my S7 MaxV with rubber brush. Notably with hair pickup - where it does as good if not better than the S7 MaxV with bristle brush but with zero tangles. As far as actual cleanup of fine dirt and hair, my ole neato still wins. 

Thank you very much for your feedback. I am coming from the exact same place, having a S7 Max V and also having pets at home. Saros is not yet available in Europe but I was planning on getting it. Your feedback is quite worrying though ... Please feel free to give an update after a full week, see if you have a different opinion or if it stays the same with the same concerns

I had an s7 max v and went to the 10r. For my grooved LVP it mopped a little worse. But if I change it to do two passes it helps make it comparable. It’s definitely worth the upgrade for the quieter performance and better dock alone.

Agree robot vacuum is one of best purchases ever. I will say you gotta get a quality one though. Obstacle avoidance, no go zones, auto empty etc.

i've been impressed with roborock's offerings. i've had my s7 max v for a few years now and it generally seems to work well and not get stuck or lost usually after programming the map. i am not up to date on the latest offerings of all the companies though. my main point was get one with like obstacle avoidance and higher end features otherwise it'll always get stuck or require constant emptying which just defeats the entire purpose of having a "set and mostly forget" device do your vacuuming and mopping

My first vacuum was an ecovacs, I forgot the model though. It was working fine and I unfortunately replaced it with the Roborock s7maxv for the auto mop washing features, and have had tons of issues with it right around the 1 year mark. Now I’m back with the ecovacs t50 and couldn’t be happier

Yeah my previous one from 2 years ago was straight trash too, I’ve gone through quite a few brands at this point but randomly got the t50 pro recently to give them another shot. I’d say their app is on par with Roborock now, and the cleaning performance I’m getting from this one is miles above my old s7 maxv. Obstacle avoidance is still not the best but I’ve noticed if you run the intelligent cleaning cycles a few times, it gets better

Just replaced my S7 Max V with the Ecovacs t50 Omni and I’m loving it so much more than the Roborock

Do you have Costco? If you do, then you don’t have to worry about it lasting, the return policy will cover you. I bought a Revo from them, returned it for Revo MaxV when it cane out. That one had an error after a few months and I returned it for another. The MaxV is pretty tall though. They just started carrying this though: https://www.costco.com/.product.4000376184.html?NATAPP=SEARCH&COSTID=iosapp_25.6.1&sh=true&nf=true Retracting lidar, probably checks all the boxes for you.

This won’t be any help to find what you’re looking for, but I just want to push back on your requirements. Auto mop washing is probably one of the most worthwhile features of any robot mop. The whole point is frequency of cleaning due to convenience, and manually removing and washing pads takes the automation right out of it. I would say, with you worrying about something going wrong with the auto washing system: the rotating mops have been so successful compared to vibrating partially because the washing system is so simple. Since the pads rotate on the robot itself, the dock doesn’t need moving parts to clean the mop. The pads simple rotate quickly on what is basically a fixed washboard and the dirty water is sucked out. Way simpler and therefore cheaper, hardly anything to break. Secondly, as far as bags go. Bagless in any form of vacuum is practically a gimmick. You always need something for air to flow through, and if you don’t have a bag, then you have a filter to clean or replace. And they tend to be much much messier to do so, and then the machines don’t last either because the dust gets everywhere inside the machine. If you don’t have pets, bags last a long time. It’s just my opinion but I think you’re really unnecessarily limiting yourself for nonissues. There’s a reason these features have become basically the standard, they work well and work reliably. If I were you I’d get one of the Roborock revos or similar and call it a day, it will be a much better experience overall. I had a Revo and then a MaxV and was happy with both.

I got the Costco one as well and I have no regrets.