Roborock - S7 MaxV

my Roborock s7 vmax is 3 years old at this point so im considering the saros 10R or Ecovacs X9 Pro Omni. Leaning towards the 10R but waiting to see what kinda deals are out there

Kind of wish you followed up more on the anti-hair stuff with a test. As a German shepherd owner the biggest issue I have with these vacuums is hair handling. I need to clean out my s7maxv constantly because hair gets stuck in the axle. Couple that with poor pickup on carpets with the plastic brush and it's a frustrating experience. I feel like very few reviewers cover it mostly because it's probably hard to create a repeatable test for hair embedded in a carpet.. but that's really the biggest drawback for all these devices for me. Anyway the rest of the review was great as always.

I got my Saros 10R yesterday around this time (purchased it myself). I'm upgrading from a S7 Max V. Had a Neato D7 before that and a Robock S5 Max and very briefly a Dreame X40 that broke. [https://i.imgur.com/NwJO3iC.png](https://i.imgur.com/NwJO3iC.png) **Few things before I go into it:** I live in a relatively small home. My first floor is mostly hardwood/tile with a 15x20' area rug in the living room. My second floor is all deep carpet. I have a long haired German Shepherd and a wife that both shed a fair amount of longish hair. I keep my rooms mostly tity but my computer does have a fair amount of cables/wires that are wrapped together, but run along the floor. My wife also has a Korg keyboard that has a foot pedal and she often leaves it on the ground. **Super Pros:** * General hardwood/tile mopping significantly better than the S7 Max V. My wife and I both noticed it immediately after the first clean I ran. It covered more areas, got closer to objects (the pivoting side mop helps a lot with that) it reached under my cabinets and it was able to get under two pieces of furniture the S7Max couldn't fit under. * Low Pile Rug performance is much better. I do wish I could set it to 2x crisscross every time on the area rugs.. but the mixed pattern will have to do. * It's way, way, way quieter. General runs are quieter. Max+ mode (or w/e its called) is way quieter. Mopping is now nearly silent. The transfer from robot to base is much quieter than the S7 MaxV. * The Anti-Tangle brush is actually Anti-Tangle. All my previous vacuums would get hair tangled in a single run - I'd clean them at least once a week (neato way more) to get all the hair out. After 24 hours, I see 0 hair stuck. Not one. * The feature set is more rich over the S7 Max. This one is a think a bit annoying because I feel like a some of these features the S7 could do, its just software locked.. but having the ability to do pet area deep cleaning, mixed pattern cleaning, the rug options + all the leave behind the mops, extensions, re-mopping, etc is all really cool. * The detergent dispenser is a nice addition over the S7 MaxV. * The ability to clean out the tray and the self cleaning stuff is super nice. **Kind of Pros but maybe a little not:** * Hair Pickup on carpet is better than the S7 MaxV but still worse than the Neato D7. * I confirmed this by running the S7 Max V first (with rubber brush), on my upstairs carpeted room - that I purposely haven't vacuumed in a week. S7 Max V barely got anything and had some wrapped around the edges - as it does. The Saros 10R filled about a quarter of it's bin - but no tangles! The Neato filled the entire, much larger, bin, the chute partially jammed with hair and the bristle brush was wrapped completely. Neato is still king of deep carpet cleanup (if you ignore how jammed full of hair it gets) * I think the takeaway here is that the Saros 10R is big improvement but I find Roborock still lacks with hair pickup on deep carpets - even area rugs, to an extent.. over much older vacuums. * Pivoting Side Brush is good.. sometimes? When it works, it obviously works and pulls stuff out of corners, I don't find it working that often though - especially under the cabinets/corner cabinets. It comes outsometimes for a bit then goes away. (this is with the AI Lab Flexi arm thing enabled). * Navigation seems similar/better. In terms of actually going around and finding how to get there, it seems quicker (i haven't timed it) and it does less random movements like my S7 Max V did both during and after its cleaned. **Cons:** * The obstacle avoidance seems worse, maybe even way worse? I know it's only been 24 hours and I know the system the 10R specifically uses is new, but so far it's been pretty bad at detecting things, especially cables. * Yesterday when I was messing around with it, it ran into one of my dogs stuffed toys and got stuck on it. It also decided to "jump" little tray tables I have under my sofa, and got stuck on a wire behind them. (I set this as a no-go from now on). * This morning was the first time I ran it on a schedule - I do it early before I wake up, but I woke up to it stuck on the cable for my Wife's keyboard, the mop got wrapped in the cable and it pulled it off. * Just an hour or so ago today, when I was testing the carpet pickup on the second floor, it ran into a sock under my nightstand and got jammed. * Kind of disappointing considering my S7 Max V maybe got stuck twice, in the entirety of 2 years I owned it. I'm chalking this up to a combination of bad luck, weirdness because it's trying to hop stuff the others wouldn't attempt, and relatively new firmware on a new type of obstacle avoidance system. I hope it will improve. * All the Bins are too damn small. * My dog blows his coat twice per year. When that happens my S7 Max V can sometimes get nearly filled with dog hair. I've had to split rooms up into subrooms in order to force it to go back to the dock more often to empty. In this case - the Saros 10R not only has a smaller bin, but it's better at cleaning hair. I can see this being a problem. * It seems to use more water than my S7 MaxV while mopping, yet the clean and dirty bin are both smaller. Which means more refills. * The gloss on the front of the dock is a fingerprint magnet. I hate it. **Conclusion:** Overall, again after only 24 hours, I think its' a pretty nice upgrade over the S7 MaxV and I plan on keeping it. I'm hoping software improves the obstacle avoidance, which is my biggest concern at the moment. I also hope Roborock continues to improve it's suction/hair pickup performance - i really hope youtubers also create better tests for this. A lot of these guys say these newer robots are "perfect" at it and it's just not been my experience at all. They are getting better - in fact tangles seem solved, which is great, but they also leave a ton of hair behind.. even when compared to older robot vacuums but especially compared to a Dyson or something. **If anyone has any questions or wants anything specifically answered let me know ill do my best to respond.**

It does okay. It's still short of my old neato and way short of my Dyson but it does a significantly better job than my S7 MaxV with rubber brush. Notably with hair pickup - where it does as good if not better than the S7 MaxV with bristle brush but with zero tangles. As far as actual cleanup of fine dirt and hair, my ole neato still wins. 

It does okay. It's still short of my old neato and way short of my Dyson but it does a significantly better job than my S7 MaxV with rubber brush. Notably with hair pickup - where it does as good if not better than the S7 MaxV with bristle brush but with zero tangles. As far as actual cleanup of fine dirt and hair, my ole neato still wins. 

Thank you very much for your feedback. I am coming from the exact same place, having a S7 Max V and also having pets at home. Saros is not yet available in Europe but I was planning on getting it. Your feedback is quite worrying though ... Please feel free to give an update after a full week, see if you have a different opinion or if it stays the same with the same concerns

# Roborock S7 MaxV1. * **Floor Level Handling**: Handles obstacles up to 2 cm with ease. * **Auto-Emptying Station**: Yes, available with the Roborock Auto-Empty Dock. * **Local Control**: Supports Valetudo with custom firmware. * **Home Assistant Integration**: Supported through the Roborock integration. * **Mopping Functionality**: Yes, with advanced sonic mopping. * **Price**: Around €700-€900.

[My thoughts on the QRevo Slim after a week of using it](https://preview.redd.it/we5kcurop0wd1.jpg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91dd8e5313d098889a8a2e1667c66fffa852d2da) **Note:** [**My initial thoughts and unboxing images are linked on this thread**](https://www.reddit.com/r/Roborock/comments/1g4rkww/unboxing_preview_of_the_roborock_qrevo_slim_ama/) I’ve been using a S7 (no dock) for the past 3 years and loved it. Yes, it is a hassle to empty the dustbin and clean the mop pads every day BUT it was ridiculously good at what it did. The QRevo Slim completely changed my opinion on that. I’m not gonna spend time on what the others have done w.r.t. build quality, set up experience etc. but rather I wanna focus on the good and bad aspects of this product. # The Good 1. **The Dock** is arguably the best thing about having a robot vacuum – auto empty, mop cleaning and drying and the ability to refill and store dirty water for a week or two means I rarely have to touch my vacuum (which is a big win for me). There is no difference between this dock and the docks that come with other variants of the Roborock series. 2. **Suction Power** – I have a wool rug in my living room that sheds like a pack of german shepherds. With my S7, I still had to manually vacuum with my Dyson in order to remove both its shedding and dirt. The QRevo Slim however really does good work on carpets and rugs. Post a run with the Slim, my Dyson doesn’t pick up much debris or hair from the rug. The slide out front arm has definitely made a difference around deep corners in my home. I had to manually clean these with a handheld vacuum before. *But it’s not perfect and some debris still remains in the absolute corner.* 3. **Object Detection** – This was a game changer for me. Each night before I ran the S7, I had to manually move and rearrange items on the floor so it didn’t get stuck. With a kid and a dog, it’s easy to have toys under the rug, spoons in random places on the floor etc. My S7 would always get stuck on those and fire away an SOS in the app and I’d have to get outta bed and reset the robot clean cycle. The Slim has made me truly appreciate the *set it and forget it* style I prefer. Yes, I still do move/check for randoms but it doesn’t get stuck up on the stuff I’d miss. 3/4 score in my ultra scientific yet real world test! It even manages to dodge when my dog is sitting on the rug and shows a ‘Pet’ notification in the app! [My super scientific object detection test with real crap my kid and dog leaves around](https://preview.redd.it/8f6k4co5r0wd1.jpg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d7eaaba68ebcb3ad4537fdc21f6e259f0aa18f7) [Wires - not a problem!](https://reddit.com/link/1g8folf/video/spjpvfeer0wd1/player) [It did manage to 'touch' the flip flops but didnt mess up](https://reddit.com/link/1g8folf/video/xxz15rijr0wd1/player) [Nudged the ball but didn't get stuck on it like my S7 did](https://reddit.com/link/1g8folf/video/3exydktpr0wd1/player) 4. **Mopping Ability** – Just out of curiosity, I ran my old S7 in a specific area for a vacuum and mop cycle. I then followed it with a cycle on the QRevo Slim. It still managed to show up as dark brown water after the mop cycle! This was an eye opener as it meant that the scrubbing ability of the rotating mop heads made a difference on my hard wood floors. It even managed to scuff out certain markings my kid made with a marker on the floor. The slide out mop arm makes a difference around the entry way of my house (near the front door) and near the backyard entrance, for sure.   [Goddamn kids and their marker pens](https://preview.redd.it/z16pcdmyr0wd1.jpg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c5c2cf4fda48a9fdeae54455b9ca0a4fbe5a4ee) [After 1 run. I think it might get all of it after 2-3 runs.](https://preview.redd.it/m7np71acs0wd1.jpg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e3180a8e06d9b236267c78bedcc5d31fecab06d) [The moving arm and mop head make a difference around the edges of the room](https://i.redd.it/nj0iya5qu0wd1.gif)   5. **Routines and App Smarts** – Due to the way my house is laid out + the way I used to use my S7, I prefer to run a cycle in the kitchen and dining area (kids, they really do create a mess) and then I would manually empty the dustbin and clean the mop pads so it could tackle the rest of the house. The Slim allows me to set exactly such routines where it would first tackle those two areas – empty and clean itself – and then continue on with cleaning the rest without any manual intervention from me whatsoever! There’s also a matrix mapping option in the map although I am not sure what it really does or how it helps (Maybe the folks at Roborock can answer this?). 6. **Noise and general pain-in-the-ass’ness** – The slim itself is pretty quiet when in Balanced mode. When it does bump up the power on the rug in my Living Room, it is still quieter than my old S7 in Max mode. I could NOT watch TV in my living room when running the S7 on vacuum/mop balanced mode. I can however do this with the Slim. Do with this information what you will. It also manages to go under my kitchen cabinets which my S7 never could, due to the LIDAR turret.   [Mop Cleaning in action and how it sounds](https://reddit.com/link/1g8folf/video/277d981eq0wd1/player) [How the Starsight light looks at night + loudness when cleaning](https://reddit.com/link/1g8folf/video/fqn0rv5jq0wd1/player) The headlight for the Starsight feature is super bright leaves really weird shadows at night (when I run my cleaning cycles) so if you somehow look towards the stairs going down, it looks like folks with flashlights are in your home!   [Starsight Light - it's bright!](https://preview.redd.it/5nhddsqtq0wd1.jpg?width=2390&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=953e73b2fa559f9edb54d6bb1e355df94aea12e1) # The Bad: 1. During the very first run, the robot managed to lose its way back to the dock and took a tour around my entire house before it managed to reach the dock in order to wash its mop. This was after an initial mapping run had been done. 2. It also attacked its own dock during the first run but stopped doing so from the 2^(nd) iteration onwards. [arrrrr](https://preview.redd.it/eej2hf7js0wd1.jpg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7853c73ad3629da66beb764117b9c5c59184a3bc) 3. When cleaning in the dining area, my old S7 managed to go between the legs of all the chairs in order to clean the underside of the dining table. The Slim however refuses to navigate between the legs and do this. Not sure why since it definitely has enough space to manouever there.   [S7 cleaning the dining area](https://preview.redd.it/823cdfgws0wd1.jpg?width=493&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77a40489b533c3781b1d232d65237fe125816ef8) [Slim avoiding the underside of the dining table](https://preview.redd.it/ppl76p80t0wd1.jpg?width=493&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f16a3f9bb6e53a692191c7998c10250b09feff41) # Overall Thoughts: Had a friend with a ecovacs take a look and he quite literally went red. He showed me how his device needs to be regularly reset every 2 days cos it regularly forgets its mapped areas. The Roborock app experience has been fantastic for me and this is coming from someone who went through 3 x iRobot S9s after they all crapped out on me. **I would give the QRevo Slim a rating of 8/10** (*no product gets a 10/10 in my world lol*). It’s efficient, cleans well, definitely makes my life easier and is quite hassle free. If you have anything that is older than a QRevo S, it makes perfect sense to get this. Or you have money to spend and are somehow obsessed with vaccums then you do you. **Note: The unit was provided by Roborock in order for me to test out and review! #RoborockReviewCrew**

Roborock S7 maxv plus, the later model isn't worth the price premium

Unless saros 10r has a different mode then cleaning order and task finishing notifications should be available. Worked at least with s7maxv

Hey op, I'm two years into your future timeline. My s7 maxV kicks ass!

I would suggest going to Vacuum Wars and looking at the latest video reviews. That YouTuber has the best and most objective reviews. Also Jamie Andrew’s is good if still doing them. Personally, I have a Roborock S7 Max V and think RR does a good product. But I don’t think $1600 is necessary to get a great robotic vacuum cleaner and wouldn’t spend that. I am also considering the E28 and the T50, but having spent $1200 when the Roborock S7 was top of the line, I think I can wait and get a great deal for $6xx between now and Christmas. If I needed one now, I’d consider the T50, but would scrutinize the reviews. For hard floors, I agree with another poster that the e28and roller mop might be the best choice, if money isn’t an issue. I think we’ll hear that the bin is small on the T50, but most other functions are solid and it’s at the top of Vacuum Wars list right now. But they have yet to review the E28.

I’ve been running the Roborock QRevo Curv for 3 weeks after upgrading from a Roborock S7MaxV and it has been excellent. No hair tangling with the split dual brush. The only issue I’ve had is small objects (2-5cm) getting stuck and halting the cleaning cycle. I have young kids and a wife who crafts. We have an extraordinary amount of the small toys and charms everywhere. I’m sure more than 95% of the population lol, so most should be okay.

My first vacuum was an ecovacs, I forgot the model though. It was working fine and I unfortunately replaced it with the Roborock s7maxv for the auto mop washing features, and have had tons of issues with it right around the 1 year mark. Now I’m back with the ecovacs t50 and couldn’t be happier

Yeah my previous one from 2 years ago was straight trash too, I’ve gone through quite a few brands at this point but randomly got the t50 pro recently to give them another shot. I’d say their app is on par with Roborock now, and the cleaning performance I’m getting from this one is miles above my old s7 maxv. Obstacle avoidance is still not the best but I’ve noticed if you run the intelligent cleaning cycles a few times, it gets better

Just replaced my S7 Max V with the Ecovacs t50 Omni and I’m loving it so much more than the Roborock

I purchased a Roborock S7 and the family liked it so much that I bought a S7 MaxV the following Black Friday. I have both running on different floors of the house. We’ve owned them for a few years now, and if they died tomorrow, I’d go out and buy whatever their top-of-the-line model is. As others have suggested, get the dock. It makes things so simple. I had a Roborock HA widget at some point, but I found it unnecessary so uninstalled it. I just use the Roborock iOS app. Once you map your house and setup a schedule, there’s not much else to do. FWIW I wasn’t familiar with the Roborock brand prior to all this. I watched this YouTube channel (Vacuum Wars?) that put a bunch of vacuums head-to-head through various challenges to see which ones performed best, and this seemed like a strong performer at that time. Best of luck. Hope this helps!

I purchased a Roborock S7 and the family liked it so much that I bought a S7 MaxV the following Black Friday. I have both running on different floors of the house. We’ve owned them for a few years now, and if they died tomorrow, I’d go out and buy whatever their top-of-the-line model is. As others have suggested, get the dock. It makes things so simple. I had a Roborock HA widget at some point, but I found it unnecessary so uninstalled it. I just use the Roborock iOS app. Once you map your house and setup a schedule, there’s not much else to do. FWIW I wasn’t familiar with the Roborock brand prior to all this. I watched this YouTube channel (Vacuum Wars?) that put a bunch of vacuums head-to-head through various challenges to see which ones performed best, and this seemed like a strong performer at that time. Best of luck. Hope this helps!

I briefly owned an s7 maxV and found it identified and avoided more obstacles than my L10s Ultra. The roborock pathing also seems more intelligent and would simply maneuver around the obstacle rather than having to look back three to four times to make sure it avoided the object(L10s U). Perhaps Dreame has come a long way, but I found the software and obstacle avoidance was far superior on the roborock.

I have a roomba j9 and a Roborock s7 MaxV they do an okay okay of keeping up with one shepherd. Any top of the line unit should work just expect to fork over a good chunk of money. I know they Roomba “j” series gets a bad rep but I think they are great (yeah not as quite or fast as other but can be found a lot cheaper) what ever you do get a robot with a self empty base

I'm three years into OP future. My S7 maxV is now my secondary robot vacuum and I really like it.

I rocked an S7 MaxV for almost 4 years, until it broke. Now I got a Saros 10R and wouldn't go back.

Still. I own S7 MaxV and obstacle avoidance is nearly useless... and yet they managed to push it in wrong direction. Well, off to waiting for next gen I guess.

Thanks for the objective early review. I'm waiting for the UK release to upgrade from my S7 MaxV, and pet hair is also one of my drivers. We have two long-haired cats who tend to leave an invisible layer of fur that floats on the carpet; it's not noticeable, but if you rub it with your hand it balls up into fluff. With the S7, we've tended to find that the silicon roller doesn't pick this up very well, with the benefit of that being it doesn't clog up, whereas if we swap and use the brush roller, it does a good job but clogs in minutes. It's good to hear from your review and others I've read this week that real-world performance with long hair seems to be really good. Could you clarify if the 10R has a RGB camera like the S7 MaxV? Cached versions of the Roborock spec reference it, but I've seen third-party comparison tables say it doesn't, and the official Roborock site doesn't seem to mention it any more.

I'm happy with mine as well. Luck of the draw, maybe? I had the Roborock S7 MaxV before and it's obstacle avoidance was more of obstacle attraction.

Roborock s5 bought 12/2019 currently used daily to vacuum master bedroom 688 hours and 409k ft2 Roborock s7 maxv plus bought 12/2022 currently used to vacuum basement nightly 1592hrs and 866k ft2 Roborock s7 max ultra bought 7/2024 currently used to vacuum and mop main floor 1096hrs and 535k ft2 No significant issues with any of these. Have not had to repair or replace any parts except brushes and mop pads

Even ancient og Roborock S5 will absolutely outshine this thing. They can often be found used for like 80usd just because the included charger costs like 50usd and fits all roborocks. The S5 can be held alive forever with cheap original parts from AliExpress. If you have more cash then roborocks MaxV models often go used pretty cheap and especially the S7 MaxV is fenomenal.

Yes, S7 MaxV is another league compared to S7, Q7, S5, S6, Q5. S6 maxv was already a small step. I also have an S8 at the moment, and it's not as good as the S7 MaxV. It's is very close, though, if the price difference is high. S7maxv is the only robot that recognizes Ikea Poang as its mortal enemy and avoids it. It sometimes gets stuck on things, but I no longer clean before turning it on remotely.

From my experience. Roborock Q8 very good for the price, S7 Maxv little better than S8, both great, Dreame L10S Pro as great. The newer more expensive stuff is even little better like X40 Ultra, but it has the docks.. Electrolux i9.2 had suprisingly good obstacle avoidance, could even avoid small cables, but god did that robot suck in anything else.

I’m sure with software updates the obstacles avoidance will get better. It’s only the 3rd day being released.

When I first got my s7maxv it was terrible, but after a couple weeks it got updates and fixed the issues I had with it, specifically the obstacle avoidance. Now updates may not fix it, but I’m betting on it fixing it soon. It’s new tech it’s going to be buggy. If you aren’t willing to have problems at release wait a few months and see if the updates will fix the problems.

As others have said, Vacuum wars have some great comparison videos with stains (and I think the channel owner is a moderator on this subreddit now.) I have an irobot J7+ (just vacuum, with auto-emptying dock) and a Roborock s7 maxv, which is a vacuum and mop combo. I don't have the dock, because I foolishly believed like many others I could buy it without it, and get the dock for cheap later on. The mopping function is fantastic, and is great for cleaning footprints, dirt, and very light stains. Doing 3 or so passes on the same room can do a somewhat better job, but tough stains will require manual cleaning eventually, and I suspect that will be the case regardless of the vacuum you get. It's definately worth it to have though, and saves a ton of effort and time in my case. I also have a regular cordless vacuum/mop combo (A Tineco Floor One S5), which I would not recommend. It works decently enough (although it also doesn't get tough stains, which is what I was hoping for), but cleanup is a pain. I've only used it a couple times in months, and usually send out the other robot vacuums first to get up all the hair and debris to make cleanup easier when I do. **Shop around for a while, but don't order until Black Friday or something like Prime day. Usually you'll get 30-45% discounts on models you're interested in.** Auto-emptying docks are a godsend, and bigger batteries are also really important, IMO. My J7+ often has to charge 1-2 times to finish the job, and over years batteries degrade and get weaker. I've heard good things about later models of self-cleaning and emptying versions of the mop parts as well--earlier ones had issues with drying the mop pad. TLDR: Mops are definitely worth it.

My Irobot J7+ and Roborock s7 maxv have significantly different power, but not in that sense. The Roborock can go far longer without having to return to the dock and charge, while the irobot often has to charge 1-2 times before finishing the same job. Navigation and mopping are also obviously better. Bigger batteries are key as the machines age, since you can't replace batteries easily. I also have a roborock qrevo with the full dock (which my other one lacks), and it's so much more convenient that it fills the water and cleans and dries the mop all on it's own, as well as emptying the dirt. The J7+ Does have a bigger dirt bag, but it clogs more often IMO.

You can purchase and install the Q5 brush (which has bristles) into your S7 MaxV and the difference in picking up pet hair is beyond night and day. I’ve had the Q5 brush installed in my S7 and now my Q Revo and it works wonders for pet hair on my carpets. Only drawback is you do have to pull hair out of the brush every handful of runs, but that’s really no problem and doesn’t outweigh the benefit of hair pickup.

Had the S7 MaxV for 3 years and since monday the Saros 10. Have no issues and everything seems clean. It's also the first robot to vacum our high pile carpet so thats a huge win for me.

S7 maxv is a $1000 robot while the l10S is a $400 robot. Compare the S7 maxv against the X30 or the X40 and you will find that the Dreame blows roborock out of the water, it's not even close. The QRevo slim is rated as having the best obstacle avoidance of all the roborocks and I purchased one because of that, in my real world testing on carpet and hard floors, it is significantly worse than the Dreame X40 and even my old Eufy x10. So maybe it's the best Roborock but that really isn't a high bar to pass.

Fair enough. In that case it looks like Dreame made a huge improvement with object avoidance with the introduction of their "X" series like the X30 and X40. Considering the QRevo slim is Roborock's best object avoidance offering, the S8 does do worse than it and by extension the S7 is last gen tech. Looking at all the comparisons, most rank the Slim above the S8 and the S7 and then the X40 is well beyond the Slim. It's a shame because roborock would be the best choice if their object avoidance actually was reliable and consistent.

I had the s7 Maxv and now its on my second floor. I bought new s8 maxv ultra and does alot worse at obstacle avoidance than the s7 maxv. It literally went backwards in that aspect. I agree with the original poster. Why are we paying more for less. The s7 maxv also did way better on carpets. Only thing I love improved is the seld emty and refill dock which has been great.

S7 maxv - mine is at 51km²/ 1471 hours of cleaning and going strong. Have a qrevo as well that was gifted us but still prefer the older s7. Could probably find a refurbished one well in your price range - upkeep has been basically vacuum bags, 6 or so filters now and 4 main brushes/7 or 8 side brushes. I replace based on condition and not the app suggestions.

Hola! Por casualidad pudiste probar con las sillas tubulares metálicas? Es el mayor problema que tengo yo con el S7 MaxV y según la publicidad el StarSight 2 es capaz de reconocerlas.

I have the S7 maxv ultra and have never been very impressed with it. Particularly with its ability to avoid cords and things of that nature.. Very disappointing, especially considering it even has the structured light sensor as well.. Not sure what the deal is.. whether it’s the software, not enough computing power, or both

I've been looking into it myself, than decided, to get a autofill station for My S7 MaxV Ultra as first and maybe wait for a more improved version of that S8 MaxV Ultra, since, they sadly have rushed it a bit and a few of the features aren't on point as they've said. Also, that trade in programm would probably give Me just 250-350$ back for My, now almost a Year in Heavy use, very dusty envoirment. So, eh, gotta do that and maybe put that S7 later on into the shop or soemthing or into the wharehouse, idk. ... Long story short, get one of those autofill stations, and maybe wait a year, at least that's what I'M planning to do since I have it in use almost daily as well. Also, those autofill stations are around 250-350$ on AliExpress, when they're on Sale, sometimes down to 175$, so get one if You can and wait a bit.

I work for an athletic training facility, and we are considering buying a few robovacuums to vacuum/mop the rubber flooring and potentially vacuum the turf. The area in total is large and why we are considering getting a few of them, but the space itself has lots of items, walls, gym equipment etc so it’s not like it’s going to just clean in 5,000sqft of empty space. I know that LiDAR doesn’t do well when it has nothing to reference against (is it worth going with a camera system like the S7?) but I am hoping that with all the items it wouldn’t be too bad. The only large open area is the pitching area which is turf and we probably wouldn’t have it run there consistently, the only area of turf it would run on is the border of the main gym area. I have an S7 MaxV Ultra (or whatever it’s called) at home. Although I think the spinning mop pads may do better than the vibrating single pad.

Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra and thank me later.

Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra is the best vac yet imo

Two things: 1. it didn’t used to be like that, we’re not exactly sure what’s up 2. Ignore everything and get an S7 MaxV Ultra. Don’t think about anything else. This machine is peak robot vacuum in every single way imo.

It does edges fine enough, not perfect No real issues with hair, check the brushes every few months. Great at object ID It also does not bring me White Castle, but you can’t have everything. Find me a more complete autonomous robot for the price of an S7 MaxV Ultra today.

The Roborock QRevo seems to go on sale every month or 2 on ebay for $360 for a refurb sold by Roborock. Mine looked new when it arrived. That's crazy good value. I also have an S7 maxv ultra, but the qrevo is close enough and cost a third what I had paid.

We have the S7 MaxV Ultra and a brand new S8Max ultra. We decided that the added capabilities of the V version didn’t outweigh the price. The camera is a neat function but we didn’t use it and the avoidance honestly isn’t great. The regular sensor avoidance on the S8 seems on par so far or better(only been a day or so)

We have the Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra and love it. The phone app is second to none in my opinion, having used Shark, iRobot and Neato in the past. We've had it for 2-3 years now and no issues at all other than regular cleaning & maintenance. Ours is the full auto-empty/wash/mop base, but you can get them without the mop cleaning part for a bit cheaper. Highly recommend the mopping one though if you have hard floors. Just set that thing to vac & mop every other day and never worry about dirty floors again. Checkout "Vacuum wars" on YouTube, he has fantastic videos testing & comparing all the various robot vacuum models.

I bought a used Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra off Ebay, the S8 MaxV were still too expensive. Hell I would buy a refurbished MaxV if they sold them on their eBay store.

I just bought a used Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra, hopefully it works better!

On obstacle avoidance so far so good, actual vacuuming is alright. Might need to purchase a OEM main brush and see if that helps.

I had the S7 MaxV Ultra and I can see it being less good on more balanced settings, if I crack it to the max it will pick up everything just like the S7 MaxV ultra did on my tile floors, my guess is the balance is just "weaker" to save battery and show better data on their website?

I've been a long time adopter of robot vacuums and have had my fair share of furry dogs, including a woolly malamute + shiba pair. Currently I only have a single dog (shiba). Right now, I use dual Roborock (Q8 Max+ and S7 MaxV Ultra - upstairs/downstairs) - they are outside of your price window, but there are similar models out there for cheaper. The thing you have to understand about robot vacs is that they are light duty usage. You will still need to maintain a regular deep cleaning routine - whatever you deem necessary to keep your house in a state which you think is acceptable. The robot basically allows you to extend that maintenance window a little bit. Instead of a deep vacuum every week, maybe it's every week and a half. Something like that. They help keep the furballs down, but they won't knock them out. Also, they are much better on hard flooring versus carpet - although if you deep clean carpets, they pick up surface fur/hair well enough. Also keep in mind that you will have to do regular maintenance and replace parts on all of these. They are not zero maintenance machines. The regularity with which you do your maintenance will have a pretty big impact on the overall life of the vacuum. These are also not BIFL. Honestly, these will probably run at their peak performance for around 2-3yrs (depending on how often you schedule their jobs) before they start degrading. Batteries will probably the be the first thing that goes, but these are generally replaceable. I have Roombas that are limping along that are seven+ years old, but you can tell there's just something wrong with them (I swear they're depressed). If I had to slap a lifespan on them, I'd guess five good years. If you're ok with that, Roborock, Dreame, and Ecovacs are the brands that consistently pop up as having decent all around ratings. Roborock is by far the best all-around and most consistent. HOWEVER, this is a very rapidly changing market and what's top dog one year can be completely ousted the next thanks to shitty app updates or... well... tariffs. iRobot and their Roomba still... exists... and I guess they'd be ok as a potential "I just need a robot and this was the only one I could find in the store" option. But everything about them is pretty subpar now - the robots are inconsistent and considered pretty stupid, their app is mediocre, and their pricing is just non-competitive compared to the other brands. At minimum, I would suggest a robot which includes a self-emptying dock. It does drive up the price a bit, and the docks often aren't compatible with other models, even from the same brand - but it's almost a requirement if you have pets, unless you want to empty the robot out halfway though a job. Vacuum Wars has a website with a top 20 list as well as a YouTube channel - very worth checking out. Go through his list, find a robot that has all the functions you're looking for at the price point that's acceptable.

Based on what you’ve written, it seems that the mopping performance isn’t particularly revolutionary compared to spinning or vibrating mops. And the vacuum is average. Eufy’s advertising claims that their mopping is miles ahead of the competition, but no impartial reviews actually confirm this. Most of the YouTube reviews are sponsored by Eufy anyway, so they aren’t really trustworthy. If you already have a recent all-in-one robot like the Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra, which is working flawlessly but just a bit weak when it comes to mopping, would you really consider upgrading?

1) Roborock s7 MaxV Ultra mops and vacuums after dinner while I’m on a walk. My kids gave it to me, and it was a total game changer. 2) Tile flooring that looks like wood (and pretty area rugs if I want a rug somewhere). It’s always neat and tidy, and it never looks worn and dirty like carpeting. 3) New York Times digital subscription. Hear me out: It’s not just for news! Wordle ramps up my brain in the morning. Engineers even use it to ramp up. The NYTcooking will up your game with food and WireCutter magazine is for everything else. WireCutter is like Consumer Reports but of everyday stuff like the best tweezers or the best spatula. Thinking’ about that bidet now based on these comments. I’ll have to see what WireCutter says about the best bidet!

We have a Roborock s7 maxV ultra and it has been a game changer. We have two dogs who shed like crazy and run the vacuum usually twice a week. It’s not 100% perfect but it is definitely noticeable. It has cut down on our personal clean time significantly.

Major props !! She’s a beast !

From my personal experience it is Roborock models. I’ve had 2x Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra, 2x Roborock S8 MaxV Ultra and now Roborock Saros 10R and I couldn’t be happier. When I had first gotten the S7 MaxV Ultra’s k had questions about original accessories and I had emailed them and they replied so quickly with the Information I needed. I tried Ecovacs X9 Omni Pro and I think my robot was faulty. I tried contacting support directly when I received it, I have yet to receive an answer (Europe/Netherlands). I have returned it back to Amazon instead.

I recommend the Roborock S7. It has excellent edge cleaning capabilities and advanced navigation for thorough coverage.

I just bought a Roborock mop and vacuum from Costco and love it. Huge upgrade from my old Roomba. It self empties and washes the mops. All you do is refill water and empty dirty water. With your budget you can even afford the upgraded model that cleans with hot water and is better in the corners . Go for it!

I thought the same until I tried a mopping robo. Having your floors mopped twice a week while you’re at work is priceless. You can still do some extra mopping once a month if you feel the need.

Not a single new Roborock until they fix their new brushing system, the cleaning quality have dropped alot since S6/7. Atm dream Ultra seems to be the best choice if you got the money.

I also have the s7 and I would say the q revo looks and Sounds Better.

The axel shaft snaps out and snaps into the swivel assy. I use a flat screwdriver with gentle pressure to snap it out and finger pressure to snap it together again.

Hi everyone, I have a Roborock S7, and even though I clean it regularly, it often looks like the photos I’ve attached after just one(!) or two cleaning runs. Long hair, in particular, seems to be a huge issue – it constantly wraps around the main brush and even the small front wheel. I don’t have an auto-empty dock, so I clean the robot entirely by hand. At this point, I feel like I’m putting more effort into maintaining the robot than I would if I just vacuumed manually. I’ve tried everything: cleaning it more frequently, taking precautions like removing hair beforehand, but nothing seems to help. I wouldn't say that my flat is dirtier than average. Has anyone had similar experiences? Do you have any tips to fix this issue, or should I just start looking for an alternative? I’m seriously questioning if the robot is still worth it, considering how much time I spend cleaning it. Looking forward to your thoughts and advice!

I would say when I bought the robot three years ago, it was never as bad as it is now. (Although I haven’t changed anything)

I like my roborock s7. I have the manual empty dock but will eventually upgrade to the auto. My girlfriend is allergic to cats and dogs, and we have both, so I got the vacuum, and it has greatly reduced her sneezing. It's smart and doesn't just bump around, so it cleans rooms pretty fast but still accurate.

I have a Roborock S7 and I've easily got parts from AliExpress i.e. Filters, side brush, mop pads, water tanks, and I'm confident I could get parts like wheels if I needed to do actual repairs. I haven't needed to get parts regularly in the 3.5 years I've had it, just the one off or to have a spare ready for replacement

You just made me buy a Qrevo Master. My gf has long hair too and my s7 is suffering with hairs on brush.

The q revo master has been doing pretty well at avoiding cables. Sometimes the mop gets stuck and the mount comes off but a lot less than my s7. Vacuum wars on YouTube also rated it the highest for avoidance with AI and its cameras

I’ve never had issues with constant pet hair and my wife’s long hair with our Roborock S7.

Currently using a Dyson animal 3, and a roborock qx Revo. And an s7 down stairs. Those battery stick ones from Amazon crapped out too fast.

I had a few different ones, all crap. Then I tried the roborock S7. I don't have a dock and honestly it's enough. I anyway like to keep the mop clean. Ordered a bunch of mops and stuff from AliE. Works great. Saves a few hours a week.

My Roborock S7 has been nearly flawless. I just fill / empty the tanks for it's weekly cleaning (mop & vac - carpet / hard floor) & it gives me perfect floors. Needs the occasional hairball detangle & rare maintenance item now & then, but it's easily one of my better investments. It will occasionally attempt to eat some stray things (clothing / small cords), but it's just a reminder to pick up before his cleaning day.

I LOVE MY S7. Things been daily vacuuming my room for 4 years with minimal maintenance. Mopping twice a week. I have 3 parrots so the floor ALWAYS has something on it. Bird poo, food, small chunks of wood, doesn't matter robots got it covered. I've abused the hell out of the poor thing lol

Well bird digestive systems are a bit different from a dogs. They move food through their gut so fast it doesn't have time to ferment or develop a smell unless they are sick. The vac/mop robot has detachable mopping pads that can be machine washed though. I don't know how well it works with dog urine but they generally look brand new after a wash. The pads do wear out over time but most of mine have lasted all 4 years I've had them.

Yeah a lot of ppl on the internet just push spending 2 grand for a robot without much thought or ROI smarts. Btw I bought the roborock S7 with the cyclops self empty base for $250 ish , it was over a grand new . When I got it I cleaned it real good , opened it all the way , I replaced all the filters , etc, had a lot of fun refurbishing it myself and getting to know it , and saved some CASH

Coming from the S7, I’m genuinely impressed how fast and how far the vacuum and mopping robots have improved over such a short time. For me the best perk is that I no longer need to interact with the robot ( topping up water tank and frequent manual mop cloth change). I understand that the Z70 is essentially the 10R with an added arm. The robot mostly recognises fabric such as towel and socks as object it could pick up and put into the designated storage bin. It did false identify the piano legs as a fabric today. Not sure why. Since the identification is not 100%, the robot does not automatically pick the objects up during cleaning but pins the item in the map and allow you to send the robot to pick up the object and place it into the storage bin. Still learning how to use it. If anyone has useful tips, please share

Yea I had the basic S7 and a charging dock. Auto cleaning, binning, and water top up docks wasn’t a thing then. As I mentioned, one of the pain points I had with the S7 was the need to regularly maintains the robot; clear bin, top up water tank, clean and change mop cloth, clear hair stuck on rollers and brush. The latest models Z70/10R with dock eliminates all these now (I hope it does!)

Performs about same as S7 https://youtu.be/08SC1tb69j4?si=ddRuVnLkplrfUqeR Sometimes not as on some carpets due to the brush design

I have the Roborock S7 I got on sale for Amazon Black Friday (believe $380?) and I love it. It includes a water mop pad which maybe not cleans super well but removes all footprints on our wood floors which looks like. I bought it in 2023 and still going as brand new. I do replace parts like the brushes and filters when the app tells me it’s due for replacement; although I double the time as I think the parts are fine. Have about 550hr+ runtime and working like a charm. When we update our basement I’ll move this one down there and replace with a new one. Roborock sells some with auto dust unloading and auto mopping which imo is a lot more money. I’m happy with manually emptying since it’s good to inspect the robot every so often and get any hair out of the brushes.

Roborock Saros 10R cleaning performance review https://youtu.be/08SC1tb69j4 3 carpets included using certified test dust. Depending on carpet it is even outperformed by a s7 (your s8 is also worse than the s7) It is not a good vacuuming robot.

I have a roborock s7 since years and it still works

I agree. I have hair just above the shoulders and it would get very stuck on my roborock s7. Ive recently upgraded to Mova p50 pro ultra and after running it for a week I see no hair on the brush and a lot is getting in the bag in the basestation.

I always think about the S8, but my S7 is rocking pretty good. I have a lot of deep carpet and cat litter, so it works hard.

You want a vac that auto empties. I use a Roborock S7. I haven't used another brand so it's not a comparison. Look up YouTube vacuum wars channel

I have a Roborock S7 that's still doing well after 3 years. I've had older model robots die after 2 years. But the lifespans seem to be improving. Another factor is that the technology keeps getting better fairly rapidly, so it's often tempting to upgrade after 2-3 years.

S7 / S8 Ultra docks have an extra complex mop washer which is not needed in a Qrevo. It tends to get messy in the dock tray and the thing is hard to clean because it's not removable. Furthermore it makes the docks expensive and thus less economical. If you can't stand your appliance being covered with residue, don't buy. The revo tech needs less maintenance.

All MaxV models, plus Qrevo Master which is an exception to the naming conventions. The camera isn't just for better obstacle avoidance. It can be used to transmit live video feed to the mobile app. The newer models can do AI based object identification. Although I highly doubt this will result in better cleaning performance. Agreed on the Eufy. If poop avoidance is a must, the Eufy S1 Pro is probably the recommendation. Dreame could be an alternative. Roborock is not on par with these.

https://preview.redd.it/jpplzi0s4wjd1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=edec322e2bd74b00565d91ccba501b163ee07785 Roborock! This image tell you everything. Roborock 1st generation and I also have S7 :) Rock solid

Def not Roborock. We bought a S7 and it broke down just a little over a year. Sent it into to get repaired and had to pay to some weird PayPal account. And it was packaged very poorly when shipped back. Then it broke down again after a couple of months and we gave up on it.

Hey, I bought it refurbished thru amazon.es for 400eur, you can send it back no questions asked (whitin a couple days from purchase). I found it out after my 2yo roborock s7 ingested water and broke, I got full refund before they even recieved the item back. But I do recommend you stick to roborock official seller on amazon. If you're going this route I'd wait until February for all the returns from christmas

Cool thanks for thanks for sharing. I might buy one to try then cause my roborock s7 is starting to feel aged with no water tank in the dock.

Having two dogs I would go on record saying that the S7 does a less worse job than the S8 on short pile carpets. But still to get it somewhat okayish clean, I use a normal vacuum twice a week

We've been running two roborock s4s since late covid. They worked so well. I picked up a s7 to add mopping. The difference in our house was stunning. Highest recommendation

Roborock s4. I've had two since covid. They clean weekly. No issues. I've also had a s7 mopping for about 3 years. No issues as well.

Olá amigo, sou do brasil também. Um amigo trouxe um Saros 10R dos EUA terça-feira. Robô fantástico, eu sai de um Roborock S7. Eu pegaria o topo de linha mesmo, o Saros 10 no seu caso.

I have S7 and cannot compare to other models, but also cannot recommend the s7 for a flat with two long haired cats and two long haired people as we have. The cleaning is easy, but frequent.

I have S7 and cannot compare to other models, but also cannot recommend the s7 for a flat with two long haired cats and two long haired people as we have. The cleaning is easy, but frequent.

I have S7 and cannot compare to other models, but also cannot recommend the s7 for a flat with two long haired cats and two long haired people as we have. The cleaning is easy, but frequent.

I only had a single problem with my Roborock S7. A pipe burst while we are away and the poor thing tried to vacuum a inch of water. I replaced the vacuum module and it is working flawlessly 1 and a half years after the incident. The fix was 12 dollars and 2 hours of my time.

It sounds like you need a versatile robot that can handle both mopping and vacuuming without making your rugs and carpets wet. I've tried the Roborock S7, which has a strong vacuum feature combined with a mopping system that lifts when it detects carpet, keeping everything dry. Another option to consider is the Ecovacs Deebot Ozmo series, known for its advanced mapping and smart home integration, which helps optimize cleaning patterns. Both offer features that reduce the risk of wet carpets. If you're still unsure, checking out reviews on ConsumerRating could give you a clearer idea since they cover a wide range of models and features.

The S8 Max Ultra is a strong contender for sure! I've had great experiences with the S7, which nails price-performance ratio without the hefty price tag. Checked out other options on sites like Tom's Guide and ConsumerRating too. They've helped streamline my choices quite a bit! Knowing the cleaning area size and mapping needs can also guide your pick. Happy vacuuming!

I have had a Roborock S7 for the last 2 years and before that I had a Samsung for like 3 years (no emptying dock station). Both purchased as clearance items after either Black Friday deals or Christmas left overs at larger retailers box stores. I have 3 large dogs - hardwood floor, minimal door mats, and tile in bathrooms only. I love love love having them!!!! They have helped me so much! In areas that my dogs are in the most, I split the room themselves into 2 sections in the map. That way it goes back to empty itself and does not overwhelm the vacuum. I still have to bust out my shark vacuum to go under furniture that it does not fit under. I haven’t even tried the moping feature yet!! Ugh— not sure why but gotta get on it.

The narwal freo z ultra and freo x ultra both have anti tangle brushes. In my 1+ months of using both of them, no hairs has ever got stuck in the brush or the axle. My wife has super long hair which always annoys me - gets stuck on the regular vacuums brush and the roborock s7 (axles, not on the rollers). But with the narwal, I never had to clean them once. Narwal does a pretty good job of vacuuming and mopping but the app isn't mature and the same goes for the robots themselves. They have some quirks - the mapping/ map updating kinda sucks sometimes and both the robots I had to re-map the house at least 2-3 times. Also, splitting rooms or modifications to the map also has some quirks that annoy me so much. I also had some concerns on privacy so I returned the freo z, still have the freo x, will use it for a bit and decide. The only thing holding me from returning the narwals was/is the anti tangle brush.

Small wheel is removable. Just pull from one side of the wheel and it will come out easily.

I have all hardwood and use two devices. The Roborock is an excellent vacuum and I like their ap the best. I have an older S7 but it still powers through my 3 dog house. And a narwhal which does a 80% good job at mopping. Together my house stays pretty clean ;)

I feel like this is accurate for me as well but maybe its a lifestyle choice. I use mine mostly while home so I can pick up tag toys ect before it goes. I usually clean it out before use and remove any hair ect from the roller dumping the dust bin. I have an older S7 with a self empty doc that I dont really use. Next time i think Ill look for a quieter machine. That is my family's biggest complaint.

I've used roborock and it has been extremely solid, I had the s5, and I still use it in my garage, it's been going for 7 years or so. Now I've got the s7 and it just works, needs very little maintenance. Had it for 3-ish years now.

I agree with luikiedook but am nervous of Dreame hardware reliability. Roborock is my favorite brand but I recently picked up a Eufy S1 Pro. It has been amazing. I have a Berner and a Husky but haven’t had any tangles in the short time I’ve owned it. My Roborock S7 has lasted for years, is still going and feel their flagships will still do the same. I know OP doesn’t have much carpet but for those that see this: I recommend Duo-divide for hard floor and duo-roller for carpet. Interesting fact, Roomba pulls more hair out of the carpet in one pass. Doesn’t matter because it’s also left on top of the carpet.

I have the same model and can agree it is awesome. The only downsides: - Once a two months or so it gets crazy and the map vs reality is offset by half a meter or even more. Roborock gets completely lost, avoiding empty space as it thinks it's a wall and hitting to walls thinking this is the path to the next room. Restoring the map from backup solves the problem. - Once I restore the map from backup, all routines are unusable - they do not work and must be deleted and redone. - It does not automatically avoid the heating vents on the floor and gets stuck on it eventually. I have to use the "no go zones" in each room.

I can only say positive things about my Roborock S7! Got it the day I bought my flat and it’s made my place always clean. Having a vacuum and a mop attachment is an absolute must if you have hard floors imo.

Used to have iRobot/Roomba. But after looking at a bunch of videos from the vacuum wars YouTube channel (extensive testing of all the brands), I went with Roborock. I’ve had the S7 for 2 years, and the S4 I gave to my MIL after upgrading (hers still works perfectly). It’s a fantastic machine! Mopping function is decent but not fully replacing manual mopping, just reduces how often I need to do it. Black Friday is coming up, so I’m sure there will be good deals.

I’m happy with the S7. The docking station of the newer models is a little too large, and adding that level of complexity raises concerns for me. Happy to see what happens in 5 years, as by then there might be some big improvements that are worth the upgrade. More likely, I’d consider looking into a dedicated robot mop if it gets great reviews.

If all you care about is the vacuuming performance, the dyson robot vacuum is the best performer (especially against fine dust and deep carpets), If you want other commodities/features, then the roborock S7 is good. The s8 and newer units have more features but decreased vacuuming performance. I wouldn't get a roomba unless you value support/warranty the most, irobot vacuums aren't the best anymore but they do support their machines for a long time and support is better than what you will get with roborock/dreame/dyson. Regardless of what you choose, modern robot vacuums will do a good job.

No it's not bad advice, vacuumwars tests are often not representative of real world scenarios and fail to mention some of the degradation modern releases have had over older robot vacuums. To be fair, on his review of the S8, he did mention the reduction in performance over the S7, however, he didn't showcase how bad it is compared to the old S7 (particularly against deep carpets and tiled floors). You can see what I mean on this channel: [https://youtu.be/VVnX3uhBiTQ](https://youtu.be/VVnX3uhBiTQ) , the owner uses multiple carpets of different density and materials, uses certified test dust along with other challenges that you'd expect robot vacuums to be able to deal with (tiled floors, hard floors, etc). You can find similar reviews on asian blog posts (chinese & japanese in particular), where roborock gets way more critiques for overhyping their products and reducing the quality of new releases while having zero after-sales support.

Software wise, yes, manufacturers will purposely stop delivering software updates to older robot vacuums and ship them only to newer flagships. Hardware wise, I have had much better luck with my units, I bought my s7 when it was released and its still working fine with no obvious issues.

Vacuum wise, the dyson vis nav is the leader right now. Not the smartest or nicest features but the core product is as good as it gets today. Modern robot vac models focus on quantity of features over quality and people seem to like it, which is why flagship models have tons of features that you (or the robot) probably won't use. If you want something smarter but don't mind having worse vacuuming performance, then go for the roborock s7. I'd suggest the S8 if it wasn't because it has worse vacuuming performance than the previous model. I have a dreame and roborock and honestly can't tell that much of a difference between the two.

My roborock S4 is 8 years old and my S7 is 3 years old with over 3,000 hours of run time and still going fine. So no least not for Roborock brands but that's why you buy the best!

I agree mostly with your review, but you’re underselling its performance because you happen to own an S7, which was a decent vacuum. I’ve used or own most of this year’s flagships and not one comes anywhere close to the Dyson on carpet. It makes them look like a toy despite all its annoyances and frustrations.

I can tell you what not to buy. Ecovacs. I can then also tell you that my roborock s7 is solid. That's all I can give.

Thanks for this, my S7 has been having trouble picking stuff up even after swapping the filters and brushes, and was considering replacing it. Didn't realize there was an internal one as well. I will give it a shot.

Eufy is pretty good and great value for a robot that includes self cleaning mop. But I will say that the robot is a bit dumb in attempting to get over transitions between different height floors, compared to a Roborock S7 that I've used in the same space. My kitchen and bathroom tile was a centimeter higher than my hardwood floor in the hallway. My Eufy x10 would keep trying unsuccessfully to cross that threshold and eat up its entire battery. Sometimes the x10 will make it onto the higher tile, but then not realize it and navigate back off the tile. I've found that putting the robot into mopping mode helps it get over such floor transitions more easily. Or if I am in vacuum only mode, if I'm home I might give it a firm shove with my foot over the threshold. They contacted support asking for better programming to get over thresholds, but a half year later, I don't see any improvement. The robot needs to at least realize it can't cross the threshold and give up rather than keep trying... I have since moved to a renovated home with no such transitions between rooms, and the x10 is great.

We have a couple of rugs, my SO has long hair. And yeah our S7 looks the same. But the way I see it, the time It takes to remove hair and stuff is way less than vakuuming manually

I got a second hand S7 a year or two ago and it’s been amazing! Like new!

No it doesn’t have the self cleaning station. I got it for $400 and came with all the spare parts. Cleaning for this model is very easy. We have long carpet and tiles and it’s been great.

At the time of Roborock S7, I hadn't heard much about ecovacs, dreametech and others that are up there now. Longevity, support, etc. considerations I went with S7. Now though it's a mess. There's really no right or wrong. They all do the same thing +/-. Even the most basic new comer has auto empty/dry story time etc. I'll tell you though. I had crappy roller mop that didn't do any "smart" things. I hated cleaning it. Not saying it's the best or anything but with Roborock F25 ACE and Dyson V15 I can do the whole cleanup full house in no time vs hours of cleaning of robot cleaner that I already have to do a pre-cleanup for all the toys we have around. If I leave them, they'll get chewed, tangled up.. it'll take robo 5x the amount of time to navigate around crap and by the time it cleans up some rooms it'll run out of battery. Sure, I still use it when things are tidy and it cuts down on my efforts but for quick clean up, standalone mop/vacuum is a must for me, that I discovered..

I have had an roborock s7 for years. I've been impressed with their app and the product overall. Getting a qrevo pro because I think they put out a good long lasting product. Haven't tried the pro yet though. Odds are you'll be happy with any of them.

Roborock with the fancy dock is where it’s at. My wife says it’s one of her favorite purchases of mine. I got the s7 nearly three years ago, it runs every day because pets, and we have to empty the base once a week. The big vacuum only comes out for quick spot cleans and the thicker rugs.

Hmm thats cool that everyone on here can afford the Eufy .. but my used roborock s7 works great for me. I had an irobot m6 and it was awful. Floor streaks and would get stuck on absolutely anything. Roborock is great all around brand for vacs or vac/mops

We have a Roborock with auto garbage collection / mopping (The S7, but there are newer models now). Quite nice. Highly reccomend. Also have one of the fancy switchbots (the S10) that automaticalls fills and empties itself directly from a water source... and highly do not reccomend. The navigation is worse than both the Roborock and a cheap knock off machine I bought years ago. And it leaks. Consistently. It sometimes even manages to flood things. Really really not ready for release.

We've had a roborock S7 for about 3 years give or take and it's still going strong albeit is beginning to fade. Only had to replace one part over that time for like $15. Needless to say it's exceeded my expectations. We use the regular roborock app so it's not integrated into HA for us.

Can find really nice s7 on fb marketplace no doubt and save yourself a fortune and see if you like it. I love ours.

I've had an S7 for four years and it's still going fine. The wifi protocol at this point is deprecated, and I haven't bothered to try to overcome that, but as mentioned below, I can just hit the clean button and off it goes. I have two shorthair cats that shed, shed, shed and shed and the S7 deals with it just fine. I only just had to buy a consumable parts pack last year.

I have the Saros 10 and a Golden Retriever. The previous S7 would tangle up but the Saros 10 does not. I really like the cleaning result and it makes relatively little noise.

I use, repair and maintain all sorts of robot vacuum cleaners from many different manufacturers. I have owned only Roborocks, including the S7 that we wore out completely, and our current lineup including a pair of basic S8s (charging dock only, no fancy features) and a Saros 10R. I am very familiar with robovacs! I am of the opinion that the S8 vacuums rugs and carpets much, much better than any other robovac in my experience. Hard floors and mopping are basic and relatively easy, and most robovacs do a decent job with them. Our home has a lot of foot traffic, pets and people with long hair. My basic test for how well a robovac vacuums is to have one vacuum our three carpeted bedrooms on its maximum suction setting. When it is done, I send in one of our S8s to cover the same area using its maximum suction setting. Whichever robovac goes first should pick up more dust, dirt and hair, right? Our S8s consistently come back with four to five times the amount of debris than any other robovac I have ever sent in first, including our fancy new Saros 10R. I have even sent in one S8 first, followed by the second one. The first one will bring back a full dustbin. The second one will be almost empty. There are many other similar situations that I have observed but do not test regularly, so I cannot really use them as any kind of fair comparison, but, observationally, the S8 seems to very consistently out perform any other robovac when it comes to cleaning rugs and carpets. Obviously, there are many other areas that are important when it comes to robovacs, such as navigation, mopping etc. I am not looking at these areas at the moment. As a vacuum cleaner only, our S8s out perform our Saros 10R so significantly and consistently, that I really only use our Saros 10R to vacuum under stuff that the S8s do not fit under. Otherwise, the Saros 10R is a mopping machine in our home. I have even consulted Roborock customer service extensively in order to find ways to improve its vacuuming ability without success. I am curious if anyone else has made any meaningful comparison between the S8s vacuuming abilility and any other robovacs. It is my gold standard for rugs and carpets right now, and nothing else has been able to come anywhere close it it. With how quickly our home gets dirty and full of hair, I run our robovacs daily through our entire house. Especially our S8s have very high milage on them. Has anyone seen any kind of robovac that out performs the S8s vacuuming ability in any kind of meaningful real-world test?

We had to retire our S7 due to excessive wear. That why I bought our first S8. Our robovacs get used a lot! Both of our current S8s have over 200,000 square feet (19,000 square meters) of history under their belts and are probably due for new batteries soon. The S7 is a workhorse and does very well. My daughter has one too and loves it. You would absolutely love an S8 for vacuuming rugs and carpets. It will pick up much more dust, dirt, hair, cat litter and other debris than the S7. There are fancier robovacs out there that do all sorts of amazing stuff, but I have yet to see one that out performs the S8 as a vacuum cleaner only. Even the Dreame X50, which has a very similar vacuuming module with much higher suction, does not do a better job. If you do decide to try an S8, I can only recommend the base model with charging dock only. The fancier versions with auto mop washing can be problematic as the mop washing system gets clogged with mud, and it is a pain in the neck to clean them at times. There are better robovac mopping systems available that are much easier to maintain than the ones on the fancier S8s. But one cannot beat them for vacuuming in my experience, although someone did talk about the Dyson 360 above. It may be a great option to explore.

I am reading this conversation with interest, because my beloved 960 died recently. Out of all my robo\`s, it is the one that picked up the most dirt. My S7 does not even come close. So, I am looking to replace the 960 with something a little more modern with better navigation app. Really want keep out zones. Having trouble picking something out. Mainly want good vacuuming, all hardwood floors. No carpets.

generally I'd agree with their ratings. of course, like all review sites, they only use one sample, and usually the earlier firmware version released. we've never had hair tangle issues (or since robot vacuums and regular vacuums have the same issue, it never seemed like a big deal to clean them once in a while), but they seem to prioritize it. I'm still not sold on docking stations. Many a time I'll find something stuck in my roborock s7 (piece of cardboard, whatever) that I wouldn't see if I used a dock. Vacuum wars certainly ranks good docks higher.

I started with a dumb robot and spent a lot of time 'robot proofing' the house so it wouldn't get stuck on cords, or trying to go under sofas and dressers. Adding bumpers under couch edges, raising up furniture with foam pads so it could go under, etc. and it still got stuck somewhere random 20% of the runs. the lidar and mapping go / no go zones completely changes the ability to complete the job. That is easier than dealing with a dumb robot. My roborock S7 rarely gets stuck. A roborock Q5 is $140! You could buy a new one if it broke after warranty and it'd still be cheap.

yeah, no carpets or pets, then you just need to much sure it can complete its run without getting stuck somewhwere. lots of objects that are in random places each day like toys? or fixed location like cables, planters, etc? as long as you get mapping / keep out zones, any robot will handle that. my roborock s7, (just lidar and bump sensors, no obstacle avoidance cameras) does fine. once in a while it'll eat a shoe lace and not complete the run. how crazy high are the thresholds? most robots can handle 2 cm, if more, then look at replacing it or getting one of the newer robots designed with 'legs' to raise up.

Not sure why so many upvotes. Had S5, S7, Q7 all above 3 years and battery is barely different from new. Maybe everyone in here live in castles I don’t know

We have four roborock S7’s running in our 5,000 sqft office. Bought them since they first came out years ago. They run every day. We just replace the regular maintenance parts - rollers, mop pad, brush and clean sensors. Only last year did we replace the battery for all 4. Other than that, no issue at all, rock solid, very pleased that we also have them for our homes too. We are considering the Eufy S1 Pro with water hookups. We have wood floors and it would be nice to have a roller mop that cleans better than what roborock has. If Roborock has a roller mop with water hookups, we prefer to stick with them, the app is convenient and we like the product.

I have a roborok 7 and I have white furred dogs that shed constantly. I run the vac every day and it does a good job to keep the white tumble weeds down from my dogs. I only have 2 rugs and every other day I will use the hand vacuum. It makes my house look clean and keeps the dust down so I also don't have to dust as often. I can tell a difference than the older models that randomly moved about your space. One of these days they will be able to handle the rugs! I hope...

Personally wasn't worth it for me, but we don't have wide open floors in our flat and it's a little cramped. Can imagine it's better if you do have those wider spaces but found it fairly average at hoovering even on the hardwood floors. Maybe others have better experiences than me but we sold ours fairly quickly after getting it For ref that was the Roborock 7

I have the s7 MaxV Ultra, it's been pretty good, but I've heard the Roomba is better with longer pet hair, your JR should be fine either way. No robot hoover is fully automated, you will still want to detangle the roller, and empty the dirty water pretty frequently to avoid smells/other things.

I have a S7 MaxV Ultra and it works great. It marks on the map what it thinks it is and takes a picture so I can see what it avoided. So far I haven’t had it hit anything and never has gotten stuck.

My goat S7 MaxV ultra 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

I have a S7 Maxv ultra and I replaced the roller with the Q5 roller. Much better performance. I will also say that with dog hair you do need to make sure the vacuum runs every day to keep on top of it so having a routine setup for the different rooms (so it empties after each room) is the best method.

That's good news, I had a MaxV and it was great besides the obstacle avoidance. I recently purchased the Master so hearing this is exciting. Love your channel and appreciate all the insight!

Returned it to Amazon

I got the MaxV at Costco a few months ago and love it. Have all hardwood floors with 1 area rug and does a great job. This is with 1 cat and one drooling toddler.

Ignore what everyone wrote here. No one knows what they are talking about. What you need is a robot with cameras and flash and lidars on the front so it can avoid everything in the path. All the models listed here are wrong. What you need in my opinion is a maxV model from roborock (they are a bit more expensive but for a reason). They have one of the best avoidance system. They get discounted heavily during sales like prine day, black friday etc. MaxV is the name u want. You could get the Q revo pro or Q revo MaxV wich is a bit more than you probably would pay but it mops the floor as well and that means you can go weeks without having to mop yourself. Some dreame vacuums also perform well. Please avoid roomba and other american mainstream models, they are a decade behind (sadly) to chinese brands like roborock and dreame. Another thing: on youtube there is a huge community with all kinds of pets and kids-tests with obstacles with every model on earth so you can see it yourself what will work for you

Some is better than nothing at all. Their MaxV models have the strongest object avoidance, and benefit the most from updates as well. I recommend watching the latest VacuumWars video on the Q Revo Master, and he actually apologizes because he originally said the Q Revi max v wasn't worth it due to the bad object avoidance. However he learned there was an update, and after that it was a night and day difference. It's no different to any other computer, first couple months or so are always the toughest. After an update or two they are significantly better.

I have Roborock S7/S8, it's very reliable and worth the price. I've had it for 4 years now. Just need to keep the sensors clean and filters monthly.

Roborock because of how it maps, you can edit the map, you can program how loud it is, and you can even get ones that have a mop attachment.