Roborock - S8

I have a roborock S8 - it does an ok job - valetudo is not supported yet as roborock have gone to lengths to prevent it using different encryption keys on the bootloader, I guess they want your data and need it connected to their cloud. Maybe this is because it has two cameras on it. The dust bin is small so if you have carpets it fills up quickly with fibres. The option for auto emptying dock is very expensive The solution is to vacuum more often than you would normally then it doesn't fill up so fast. If you are privacy focussed and want valetudo look at what is supported and recommended by those folks

Can anyone share their experience with the obstacle avoidance of the Q10 S5+? How does it handle cables and small items like socks?  I previously had the S8 and it did a pretty good job with avoiding obstacles and generally was a great robot, I decided to upgrade to a model with an empty station and wondering if I should I go with the Q10 S5+ which is more budget friendly (and has the smallest station I saw) or maybe invest in the pricier s8+ 

S8 is detecting every cable in my house even cat vomit

I have Roborock S8 and I love it

It's definitely an upgrade to the standard dragging a wet cloth. Flagship Saros 10 is using vibrarise too but its a bit more updated and has more vibration and downward pressure. Not sure how big of a difference in terms of performance it is compared to the S8. If you can find S8 for a good price then I think you wont be disappointed I also think when choosing between rotating and Vibration mops its about preference and what type of floor you have. The rotating mops are using more water I believe and could have a tendency to leave wet streaks on floors

Supposedly the S8 fixed the base station filter "puddle" issue right? It was my only major complain about the S7, it gets nasty and smelly very quickly. The minor one being the lack of the native support to hook up to water supply and waste lines (which I believe was an option in mainland China). But overall it's the best $1,000 I've spent on household items, wife is much happier now lol.

I also have a S8, but problem is, they do not ship parts to EU and third party parts are horrible replacements.

First time homeowner here . First time living on my own as well . I couldn’t imagine living without my s8 . This thing is seriously amazing !

I always think about the S8, but my S7 is rocking pretty good. I have a lot of deep carpet and cat litter, so it works hard.

Roborock's s8 already has that option. The problem is if you need to replace it, you may need to involve a plumber

Q8 Max wasn't really made for mopping. Since it cannot lift the passive mop, you have to detach the mop everytime you want vacuuming. Make the no mop zones a little wider, even when risking a small strip remaining not mopped. Serious multi-mode cleaning with active mop and lift for combined hard floor / carpet rooms starts with S8 or Q10 S5.

I come from an s5max, which vacuumed, but the mop only wet the floor. The aspiration of the s8, mine is basic, only with a charging base, is infinitely better. The mop cleans the floor, not to give it a 10, but a 6, compared to the 1 for the s5max. I clean the mop with detergent every time I scrub, empty the chicken and refill the tank, it's a bit tedious, but I didn't dare to buy the complete set. The design of the s8 is for the complete game, since the water and chicken tank are very small. I'm quite happy, I spend it about three times a week and I haven't gone back to work myself. I bought another roborock for my mother, the Qrevo pro set, for about €600 and it is much better than the basic s8.

Love my roborock s8. It has drawbacks I guess like total system power... But it's damn good for the size and performance. I have it vacuum/mop every day

I have an S8. For my big weekly clean, I send it around to vacuum first, then send it around to mop. When it mops, it skips the rugs. Haven’t noticed wet edges.

I second it, many people downvote anyone mentioning Roborock but I’m pretty happy with mine. I have the S8 which isn’t even the best version, and it still does a good job cleaning up my extra long hair and my fluffy dog’s fur

I find that it’s a good one for the price, it’s not perfect at mopping but still does the job. And you can always send it on boost mode without mopping to really get all the hair

Roborock S8 is often on sale, I got it around 400$ without the auto-emptying but it seems people here strongly recommend the emptying docking station

I wouldn’t know because I only have the S8 not any of those two others, but it works great for me. It just needs to be cleaned up regularly. Haven’t had issues so far, and I have very long hair and a fluffy dog

It’s currently 400$, exactly the same price as the first option on the screenshot, so let her/him decide if my suggestion is beneficial or not, as far as I’m aware it’s your post. I personally appreciate when I have more recommendations than less

If you value mopping, I'd recommend a robot that doesn't have a stationary pad. From your list, that would be the two Roborocks and the Xiaomi. The Q10 S5 is new, and there isn't a lot out there in terms of reviews yet, but Roborock as a brand is fairly trustworthy. The S8 is well-known, and a more feature-rich version was the Roborock flagship for some time, so this is a safer bet. I don't know much about the Xiaomi, but it has its fans.

Of these, the worst mopping will be the Q5 and Q8 robots, which just have stationary pads attached to the back. The S8 also has a pad attached to the back, but includes a scrubbing motion via a plate that vibrates at a high speed. It's better than the Q5 and Q8. The best mopping will be on the Qrevo and Eufy X10. They have spinning mop pads, a dock which refills the water tank on the robot from its own water tank, and also cleans the pads automatically and stores the dirty water in another tank on the dock. Of the last two, each has its strengths and weaknesses. The X10 will be better at obstacle avoidance. The Qrevo is a Roborock, which has a better reputation for quality and reliability than the Eufy, and is also rated a little better than the Eufy at a lot of things: vacuuming performance, mopping performance, etc. It also can swing out one of its mop pads for better edge and corner cleaning, something the Eufy can't do. In some cases, obstacle avoidance is really critical, in which case I'd recommend the Eufy. Otherwise, the Qrevo is likely your best bet.

S8 is overall a much better robot vacuum. Q10 S5 and Q7 S5 are very entry level in terms of quality and engineering effort. S8 is flagship-level, albeit from a couple of generations ago.

O Roborock S8 também faz pressão pra baixo pra passar pano. Esta pressão se iniciou no modelo S5 Max que era um mop fixo.

I would say the S8.

Ruling out an S8 over long hair is wild to me. If me saving nearly $1k means every few months I have to remove the rollers and remove my wife and daughter's long hair from them - which takes seconds to do - then it's a no brainer for me. To each their own, I guess.

Choose a better Roborock model. I love mine

I thinkin have the s8

Bagless might be hard to find. I like the roborock s8 but their support seems like shit from what I see online.  I bought the extended warranty to work around that.

I like it but my biggest complaint is the previous owners put in shit quality vinyl planks and if a tiny kids toy gets stuck in it, it can scratch them.  I dont mind too much because I intend on doing a full replacement with tiles but thats a little way off. I also use amazon knockoff bags, filters and mop pads because they are all the same really.

If all you care about is the vacuuming performance, the dyson robot vacuum is the best performer (especially against fine dust and deep carpets), If you want other commodities/features, then the roborock S7 is good. The s8 and newer units have more features but decreased vacuuming performance. I wouldn't get a roomba unless you value support/warranty the most, irobot vacuums aren't the best anymore but they do support their machines for a long time and support is better than what you will get with roborock/dreame/dyson. Regardless of what you choose, modern robot vacuums will do a good job.

No it's not bad advice, vacuumwars tests are often not representative of real world scenarios and fail to mention some of the degradation modern releases have had over older robot vacuums. To be fair, on his review of the S8, he did mention the reduction in performance over the S7, however, he didn't showcase how bad it is compared to the old S7 (particularly against deep carpets and tiled floors). You can see what I mean on this channel: [https://youtu.be/VVnX3uhBiTQ](https://youtu.be/VVnX3uhBiTQ) , the owner uses multiple carpets of different density and materials, uses certified test dust along with other challenges that you'd expect robot vacuums to be able to deal with (tiled floors, hard floors, etc). You can find similar reviews on asian blog posts (chinese & japanese in particular), where roborock gets way more critiques for overhyping their products and reducing the quality of new releases while having zero after-sales support.

Vacuum wise, the dyson vis nav is the leader right now. Not the smartest or nicest features but the core product is as good as it gets today. Modern robot vac models focus on quantity of features over quality and people seem to like it, which is why flagship models have tons of features that you (or the robot) probably won't use. If you want something smarter but don't mind having worse vacuuming performance, then go for the roborock s7. I'd suggest the S8 if it wasn't because it has worse vacuuming performance than the previous model. I have a dreame and roborock and honestly can't tell that much of a difference between the two.

We had a J9+ and a braava mop before and just picked up the roborock S8. World of a difference. The interface is so much smoother, it mapped within seconds and it doesn’t bump our pets

Yes, S7 MaxV is another league compared to S7, Q7, S5, S6, Q5. S6 maxv was already a small step. I also have an S8 at the moment, and it's not as good as the S7 MaxV. It's is very close, though, if the price difference is high. S7maxv is the only robot that recognizes Ikea Poang as its mortal enemy and avoids it. It sometimes gets stuck on things, but I no longer clean before turning it on remotely.

From my experience. Roborock Q8 very good for the price, S7 Maxv little better than S8, both great, Dreame L10S Pro as great. The newer more expensive stuff is even little better like X40 Ultra, but it has the docks.. Electrolux i9.2 had suprisingly good obstacle avoidance, could even avoid small cables, but god did that robot suck in anything else.

Since you don‘t need mopping I would suggest S8. As far as I know the object avoidance is superior to the Q series

Look into a roborock s7 max ultra or the s8. Make sure you get a plumbing kit and plumb it in with your washing machine lines or something similar. Program it to run each night in areas that won't bother sleeping people and during the day in areas it won't annoy work from home/summer kids. Having your entire home vacuumed and mopped every day basically eliminates dust in your home. Your air conditioner filters will last noticeably longer, and you will hardly see dust accumulate in the usual spots. I've also noticed I don't have to use Pesticide inside as any food source is removed from scavenger bugs, and with the absence of scavengers comes an absence of predator bugs. As one of the few people I know that have gone down this route, I notice my floors are much cleaner than any of my friends. I don't own a mop or an indoor Broom. They can also be tied in with home assistant if you want to tinker that way.

RoboRock S8. We have 2 cats and the hairiest dog ever. This is 9/10 (

You want to make sure you get one with Lidar IMO. I’ve had a very good experience with the Roborock s8. My wife sheds like a husky in summer and the rollers never have a strand of hair on them. Does a good job of avoiding stuff, but things like cords might be a bit too small for it to see. It’s got a good mop on it too, which is to say that it doesn’t just drag a microfiber cloth around.

Dreame X40 is similar to the unreleased (in) Western market Roborock V20 (minus retractable top), which should be the next flagship Roborock to launch. Superior to the S8 Ultra/Maxv in every way. I have an S8 I regret buying, and an X40 on the way.

I suggest you repost this in the roborock subreddit for more replies and experiences with these models. This sub tends to favour brands other than roborock, even though I don't know why. That said, with your main priorities, I would not consider buying the S8, as the saros10r / qrevo curv offer a better anti-tangle brush and thus less maintenance. Saros 10r is worth buying if you truly need perfect obstacle avoidance, don't want the LiDAR and have furniture that it can fit under while the curv can't. edit: formatting

Wow, that's crazy! I came across this old thread as I'm looking for new automation ideas but just have to comment about my Roborock S6. We've neglected the hell out of it. It has 1555 hours on it with minimal maintenance. Ran it every night for 4 years or so. So I always thought these things were tanks. It still works, but it's now our upstairs vacuum and we just don't use it very often because it's on carpet now which it just doesn't do well on. I just picked up the newer S8 last year as we wanted an upgraded one with a self-emptying dock. So far we have 330 hours on it. Hoping we don't run into the issues you had - maybe we should be better at maintenance on this one. Just in case.

I have 3 robot vacuums and they all still work great. Roborock s5 max. I keep it in the bathroom, it’s great at picking up cat litter. Noisy. Roborock s8 handles the rest of the apartment. Vacuuming performance is excellent. Noisy. Roborock Q revo. Also in the main apartment area. Vacuum is okay, but the mopping is fantastic. A little noisy. Never had any trouble with any of them.

also had the s5 before, the s8 is so much better in light mopping. you should get one with a station, like tha maxv ultra. it cleans the mop like every x minutes and its perfect.

You are going to love your S8! Once you get used to it, check out the higher suction settings and 2x cleaning options on your high pile carpets. It will dig out hair, dust, dirt and debris you never imagined were in there! But don't run the highest suction setting on your high pile carpets too often. They can suck the carpet fibers right out of the carpets. I use the highest setting (Max+) about once per month with 2x for a deep cleaning. Otherwise I use either Max or Turbo on them for my three times per week routine cleaning. I hope you love your S8! I have two of the basic ones with only charging docks. I love them!!!

We have two charging base only S8s. Nothing beats any model of S8 for vacuuming rugs and carpets, especially if there is a lot of fur and hair. I work on all sorts of robovacs, so I constantly test one against the other. I will send the test vacuum through our three carpeted bedrooms on their max suction setting. Immediately afterwards, I send in one of our S8s with only 6000Pa of max suction. The S8 always comes back with a much, much fuller dustbin than the test robovac that I sent in first. It doesn't matter if the test robovac is a $1500 premium model or not, and it doesn't matter who made it. The charging base only, $350 basic S8 always brings back a fuller dustbin. Obviously, a fancier S8 has more suction power, which will help considerably. However, this comes with one warning. If you vacuum often on high suction settings, be careful! Over time, high suction settings will pull the carpet fibers and twisted strands out of your carpet and ruin them. Many other robovacs outperform the S8 in other areas like mopping and navigation. Vacuuming hard floors is easy and all robovacs do well. But, so far, I have not seen a single example that does better than an S8 for vacuuming rugs and carpets.

I have had excellent results with Roborock S8s and Saros 10R with Home Assistant. All of my Roborock app routines were fully integrated into Home Assistant as entities. Now I can run every aspect right from Home Assistant, and by extension, through Alexa using voice routines. This is fantastic! I have used other robovacs with home assistant, but I have never had them integrate so well! Since Roborock robovacs are the only thing I am qualified to talk about, I will make some suggestions. I, personally, would avoid automatically detangling roller brushes. They do detangle very well. But they do not clean as well, especially with lots of pet hair and on rugs and carpets. The dual roller systems take a few minutes to maintain, but they clean much, much better than the single split roller systems that auto detangle. Personally, I would seriously consider something along the lines of a Roborock Qrevo Master. It is a great compromise between dock automation and good vacuuming ability. It has the dual rollers systems for excellent vacuuming, a mostly automated dock, but it does make some compromises. It is a bit more than you want to spend. But it is an excellent system that offers a lot at a much lower price than other models.

You will be impressed with what a robovac can do. They cannot clean up a really big mess, but they can sure do a lot! I count on ours to handle 90-95% of our routine floor cleaning tasks. For everything they cannot do, I use a cordless stick vacuum and a cheap steam mop. I use the stick vacuum here and there because of cat hair and litter, but I doubt I use it more than about 10 minutes per week. I use the steam mop for about 10 minutes a month to go around the edges of rooms, and the edges of rugs, on our hard floors that the robot vacuum cleaners can't reliably hit. I also use the steam mop for the very occasional larger mess. You are very fortunate that you have hard floors. Almost any robovac will do at least a decent job vacuuming hard floors. Where they really face a challenge is with trampled in hair, dirt, dust and debris on carpets and rugs. Only a very few robovacs do a decent job under these conditions. Mopping will be a bigger issue for you. Everyone has their favorite robovac and no one can make this decision for you. Every robovac has strengths and weaknesses. No robovac is perfect, and no robovac will provide miracles no matter how fancy and expensive it is. Expectations need to be managed before one buys or one will end up disappointed and upset. The fanciest robovacs are not always the best for a specific purpose. We have a pair of Roborock S8 base models with charging docks only (US$350) and a very fancy Roborock Saros 10R (US$1500). The 10R is a mediocre vacuum cleaner on rugs and carpets, but it is an excellent mopping machine with a fully automated dock that does almost anything. The S8s are fantastic vacuum cleaners even though they only have 6000Pa of suction power. They get and keep our rugs, carpets and hard floors very clean three times per week, but I do have to spend about two minutes on each of them with maintainenance each time I use them. With two S8s each vacuuming half of our house, and the 10R doing all the mopping three times per week, our house is always clean and ready for visitors with minimal effort on my part. After all of that, I can easily make due without my Saros 10R. But, losing one of our S8s would be tragic!!! I hope this is helpful! I cannot provide answers, only lots of things to consider. Choose carefully! I will add that our two S8s end up cleaning much better and more thoroughly than either our Shark Professional or our Dyson upright vacuum cleaners do. But it took me quite a long time to figure out how to use them for their advantages and compensate for their weaknesses.

I have had to improvise two ramps in my home for our S8s. It was easy to do and they even look pretty good. If you are creative, this will not be a problem. The shape of your apartment will not make a difference. Both moving around your house and mopping consume very little battery power. The single biggest power requirement is vacuuming. I always tell anyone who asks me what to get to start with a basic, charging dock only S8 for $350 and learn how it works and how to use it to your advantage. Then get something fancier later on. You will be very glad you have the S8 when you buy a fancy one from any manufacturer and find out how mediocre they are at vacuuming. Then, like our own Saros 10R, the fancy one will be relegated to mopping only while the S8 (in our case, two of them) does all the vacuuming. A happy balance between the S8 and the Saros 10R is the Qrevo Master. This does not apply to any other Qrevo model!!!!!!!!! It is not as fully automated as the Saros 10R, but it is still fairly automated and has the rear spinning mops. And it is the only Qrevo model that retains the vacuuming module of the S8 for excellent vacuuming. My neighbor bought one and she loves it! If I wanted to buy another robovac right now, it would be the Qrevo Master. I wish I would have known about it when I bought our Saros 10R. It would fit our needs much better and costs $700 less than the Saros 10R. I hope this helps! One more thought... All the manufacturers and review sites test their robovacs with cereal, coffee grounds and other household items loosely sprinkled on various surfaces. This stuff is easy to pick up. The real test is if you leave this stuff on the ground for half of a week and let it get well trampled into your rugs and carpets. Then test the robovacs!!! This is the real world testing I use in our home with very heavy foot traffic, people with long hair, cats, a litter box and constant dirt and debris being tracked through our home.

We have a pair of base model S8s ($350 each) with only charging docks, and a Saros 10R ($1500). I can easily live without my Saros 10R. Losing an S8 would be tragic! The 10R is very impressive and very automated in every area except vacuuming on rugs and carpets. It is a mediocre vacuum cleaner at best. It does not vacuum any better than a cheap Home Depot off-the-shelf model. The S8s are vacuuming monsters on rugs and carpets. Our house gets lots of foot traffic, there are people with long hair and two cats and a litter box. Everything gets trampled into the rugs and carpets. The S8s were life changers. The Saros 10R has become a very fancy and expensive mop. If you only have hard floors, almost anything will work and do a decent job. This gives you much more flexibility. I would recommend a compromise since you might end up with carpets. The Qrevo Master ($800) offers the spinning mops of more modern and fancier models. It has a very automated but not super automated dock that does most things but not all of them. More importantly, it keeps the dual roller vacuum module of the S8s for excellent vacuuming. The down side is that you will have to spend about two minutes doing some very easy maintenance on it occasionally. It also does not have the extending side mops and it isn't as slim at a Saros. I really wish I would have purchased a Qrevo Master over our Saros 10R. Our neighbor has one and it is fantastic. It would have served my needs much better than the Saros 10R and I could have saved $700. Expectations are the biggest issues new robovac owners have to overcome. For $1500 we want a miracle! No robovac can do everything, none of them are perfect, and there are no miracles. A $350 robovac will change your life completely. The extra $1150 will just get you a little bit more. But a fancier, automated robovac will not necessarily clean better. All robovacs can do is handle about 90% of your floor cleaning needs. They cannot do everything no matter how fancy and how expensive they are. But 90% is a lot and you will be amazed at the results! There is also a learning curve. One has to learn how to use them for their strengths and overcome their weaknesses. Because of all of this, I always suggest people start with a $350 model. They are truly amazing! Save the $1150 for the next robovac once more improvements have been made in a year or two and you know how to use one and what to expect. All robovacs, no matter how fancy and how expensive, are very primitive machines. They look and feel complex. But they just are not. Lastly, the only reason to consider the fancy new navigation systems is if there might be pet waste in your home. If a robovac cannot avoid this mess, it will become a disaster. Lidar navigation is really good. The fancier, newer systems are very slightly better at obstacle avoidance, but they are not perfect either. Lidar works great and is very, very reliable. Unless you have to worry about pet waste or similar messes, there is no reason to even consider a navigation system beyond lidar. There is no additional benefit. I hope this helps!

I feel the same way about our two basic S8s. I love those little machines!

I use, repair and maintain all sorts of robot vacuum cleaners from many different manufacturers. I have owned only Roborocks, including the S7 that we wore out completely, and our current lineup including a pair of basic S8s (charging dock only, no fancy features) and a Saros 10R. I am very familiar with robovacs! I am of the opinion that the S8 vacuums rugs and carpets much, much better than any other robovac in my experience. Hard floors and mopping are basic and relatively easy, and most robovacs do a decent job with them. Our home has a lot of foot traffic, pets and people with long hair. My basic test for how well a robovac vacuums is to have one vacuum our three carpeted bedrooms on its maximum suction setting. When it is done, I send in one of our S8s to cover the same area using its maximum suction setting. Whichever robovac goes first should pick up more dust, dirt and hair, right? Our S8s consistently come back with four to five times the amount of debris than any other robovac I have ever sent in first, including our fancy new Saros 10R. I have even sent in one S8 first, followed by the second one. The first one will bring back a full dustbin. The second one will be almost empty. There are many other similar situations that I have observed but do not test regularly, so I cannot really use them as any kind of fair comparison, but, observationally, the S8 seems to very consistently out perform any other robovac when it comes to cleaning rugs and carpets. Obviously, there are many other areas that are important when it comes to robovacs, such as navigation, mopping etc. I am not looking at these areas at the moment. As a vacuum cleaner only, our S8s out perform our Saros 10R so significantly and consistently, that I really only use our Saros 10R to vacuum under stuff that the S8s do not fit under. Otherwise, the Saros 10R is a mopping machine in our home. I have even consulted Roborock customer service extensively in order to find ways to improve its vacuuming ability without success. I am curious if anyone else has made any meaningful comparison between the S8s vacuuming abilility and any other robovacs. It is my gold standard for rugs and carpets right now, and nothing else has been able to come anywhere close it it. With how quickly our home gets dirty and full of hair, I run our robovacs daily through our entire house. Especially our S8s have very high milage on them. Has anyone seen any kind of robovac that out performs the S8s vacuuming ability in any kind of meaningful real-world test?

We had to retire our S7 due to excessive wear. That why I bought our first S8. Our robovacs get used a lot! Both of our current S8s have over 200,000 square feet (19,000 square meters) of history under their belts and are probably due for new batteries soon. The S7 is a workhorse and does very well. My daughter has one too and loves it. You would absolutely love an S8 for vacuuming rugs and carpets. It will pick up much more dust, dirt, hair, cat litter and other debris than the S7. There are fancier robovacs out there that do all sorts of amazing stuff, but I have yet to see one that out performs the S8 as a vacuum cleaner only. Even the Dreame X50, which has a very similar vacuuming module with much higher suction, does not do a better job. If you do decide to try an S8, I can only recommend the base model with charging dock only. The fancier versions with auto mop washing can be problematic as the mop washing system gets clogged with mud, and it is a pain in the neck to clean them at times. There are better robovac mopping systems available that are much easier to maintain than the ones on the fancier S8s. But one cannot beat them for vacuuming in my experience, although someone did talk about the Dyson 360 above. It may be a great option to explore.

I have two Roborock S8 robovacs with charging docks only. They are phenomenal vacuum cleaners! Vacuuming is their best feature. You will be incredibly pleased with the basic S8 that if on sale for $350 right now. After you run it and see what it sucks out of your rugs and carpets, you will think you have never cleaned your home properly before. Our two do better than our fancy Shark Professional and Dyson upright vacuum. You won't believe me till you see it for yourself. Here is the downside of the S8 if you were considering a fancy robovac with automated dock that does everything for you. The basic S8 does not have such a dock. You can get one for an additional $1000. But you don't need one. It takes two minutes to empty the dustbin and clean the rollers in the S8. This is a small thing for it to ask after it spends over an hour cleaning your house for you. Two minutes saves you $1000. And the $350 S8 will vacuum much, much better than any other robovac flagship costing $1500 on rugs and carpets. Hard floors are easy. Carpets, especially deep cleaning carpenter, are where the real challenges are!

I am completely unfamiliar with the model you are looking at. But I hope I can still help a little bit. Don't look at pascals at all. They are completely meaningless. The ability to create a vacuum doesn't help much. The important thing is airflow. That is what moves debris kicked up by the rollers through the vacuum channel into the dustbin. No one gives airflow information. If the robovac has a single split auto detangling roller, it has worse airflow than much older models with full length single or double rollers. This is only a generalization. I am not talking about specific models. And it is generally true for any robovac by any manufacturer. My personal example of this is that my older, charging base only $350 S8 with 6000Pa of suction power significantly outperforms my $1500 Saros 10R with 18500Pa of suction power when it comes to pure vacuuming capability. I live in the USA. I don't know what things cost in Europe. But I would consider a base model S7 or S8 with only a charging dock over significantly newer, fancier models if vacuuming cleaning ability is the only factor. They also mop well, but there are better mopping models out there. They just quickly sacrifice vacuuming ability. I hope this helps get you a little bit further!

I am not sure it is the best option, but I think it is a solid option, especially for the price. Keep in mind that the Q models are somewhat stripped down versions of fancier models. As far a vacuuming ability goes, I think it will do very well. Auto detangling split single rollers are all the rage right now because no one wants to spend two minutes removing the rollers, pulling off their ends, removing wound up hair from the ends and putting it back together. These new rollers are great at avoiding hair tangles, but they provide mediocre vacuuming ability. The Q5 Max+ has the slightly older dual counter rotating solid rollers. In my book, this is excellent! The two minutes per week you will have to spend on roller maintenance will get you much, much better vacuuming performance than you would get with a $1500 Saros 10R flagship model. Personally, I opted for a pair of charging dock only S8s because they are vacuuming monsters, and I don't mind manually emptying my dustbin because I would have to remove it weekly anyway to clean the air filter. So will you even though it has a self emptying dock. I love my S8s and they vacuum clean like beasts, especially on rugs and carpets!!! I don't think the Q5 Max+ is that much of a step down from an S8 when it comes to vacuuming abolity. But you will have a bit less flexibility and capabilities in the app. All the essentials will be there. I think it will serve you well. Good luck and happy robovacing!

Get a charging dock only Roborock S8 for its fantastic vacuuming ability on rugs and carpets for upstairs. Turn down the suction power in the bathrooms or any robovac will struggle with your bathroom rugs and mats. Consider a Roborock Qrevo Master for downstairs. It also has the same excellent vacuuming ability of the S8, and it mops very well also. There are a few reasons for this suggestion. Most people want the modern split single auto detangling rollers because they can avoid having to spend two minutes each week removing the rollers, pulling off the ends and removing the wound up hair. Two minutes! That's all it takes. The solid dual counter rotating rollers in the S8s and Qrevo Master vacuum clean much, much better because the rollers kick up debris better than the detangling rollers and these robovacs have much better airflow too. Pascal numbers are meaningless marketing hype. Airflow is what moves debris kicked up by the rollers through the vacuum channel into the dustbin . No manufacturer provides airflow information. The Qrevo Master has a nicely automated dock, but not a fully automated dock like the super fancy models. You get auto dustbin emptying and auto mop washing and drying. What you don't get is an automatic floor cleaning solution tank. This means you will have to add a bit more than one tablespoon of cleaning solution to a full clean water tank if you want to use the solution. Robovacs mop just fine with just water. But the solution does add a nice shine to the floor, it helps with water spots, and it helps a little bit with cleaning. What you do get is savings. The Qrevo Master gets you all the important features of the super expensive models for far less money. But you will have to add a tablespoon of cleaning solution if you want to use it, and spend two minutes per week on maintenance. I think this is an ideal solution for you. It would be for me in your situation. Avoid the auto detangling rollers if excellent vacuum cleaning ability is important to you. Good luck with your selection! I hope you love whatever you choose!

Your S8 is a vacuuming champ, especially using its higher suction settings. It is very hard to find a robovac that will outperform it on rugs and carpets. I am not aware of any that do so at this time. The 10R is very cool, but it is a very average vacuum cleaner at best. We have two charging dock only S8s and a 10R. The S8s vacuum clean much, much better than the 10R on rugs and carpets. Everything else about the 10R is fantastic. But as a vacuum cleaner is is about as good as a bargain brand cheap robovac. Almost any robovac can do an acceptable job vacuuming hard floors. If your S8 is not doing a good job vacuuming rugs and carpets using its higher suction settings, there is definitely something wrong with it. Have you kept up your maintenance and changed the rollers as recommended? Is it's dustbin empty when you start cleaning? Is your exhaust port clogged? Perhaps you need a new vacuuming blower. These are available on Amazon and are fairly easy to replace.

We have a 10R and a pair of base model, charging dock only S8s. Compared to our $350 S8s, our 10R sucks at vacuuming. It is so bad that I do all of our vacuuming with the S8s and only use the 10R as a mop. What you described with the air flow coming out of the exhaust vents is exactly what I experienced. The S8 moves a lot of air. The 10R feels much, much weaker. My standard robovac test is very simple. I have a test robovac vacuum our three carpeted bedrooms on its maximum vacuum suction setting. Immediately afterwards, I send in an S8 using its maximum vacuum settings. Then I compare the results in the dustbin. Whenever I do this with our 10R, I do find stuff in the dustbin, but there is never all that much. When the S8 goes through right afterwards, it's dustbin is completely full. The S8 that recleaned an already cleaned (by the 10R) room picks up five times as much stuff. I have tried this over and over again with the same results.

I also have a S8. VibraRise works, especially if you spray some floor cleaning solution on the mop before installing it, it works wonders! Make

Have mine since release date since 2 years ago. And still have it, that might give you a hint. Before this one I had the S7 plus and before that one the S5.

Best vacuum in terms of what? Without camera, obstacles avoidance is garbage, except the S8 line, excluding the maxv. If you don’t care about avoidance then the pro is quite basic, you can get the Edge S5A or Curv S5X

don't know about earlier versions, but my S8 gets the easy to medium stains off the floor, this includes coffee stains. An odd spot might remain but I find them hard to remove myself so not too odd the robot can't get it. If you can get it cheap I'd advise u get an S8. Not too gimmicky, not perfect but also not breakthebank expensive.

Lmao these numbers i bought an s8 refurbished with 20 hrs usage for 200 and it changed my life

Also have an s8 with vibrarise. I’ve read that the super “in” dual rotating mops aren’t proven to be better than vibrarise. What I will say is that I think mops on robot vacuums are still a “maintainer/extender” feature than a true mop up stains type of feature. If you manually mop, the s8 will make it so you have to do it less often. It’s not a replacement for that first initial manual mop. Besides that, I’ve enjoyed the s8 as it was an upgrade from my original s4. Obstacle avoidance is pretty good, although, I’m just used to tidying up before running it now a days.

Roborock because of how it maps, you can edit the map, you can program how loud it is, and you can even get ones that have a mop attachment. 

The dual roller roborock vacuum does great with pet hair.

Hey, I actually just did extensive research on both these model, I had bought the S8 and returned it for the L10 ultra heated it mostly has all the same features as the L20 but heat cleans the pads and is a newer model. I thought the S8 did a good job but it has no water tank in the base and I liked that the Dreame adds detergent automatically cleans and dries the pads etc. I got the L10 ultra heated for $750 a week ago.

10/10 Roborock from Xiaomi I’ve had the S5 for a few years now. I’ve been eying off the S7 and now S8, with their significantly upgraded docking system, but I just can’t fault the performance of the one I have and am waiting until it stops working to upgrade.

I have the Roborock 8 and it's vacuuming since two years two times a day and it still works like a charm

I replace regularly the filter and once the brush, but these are maintenance parts

I changed it two times right now

I just replaced them, because I got them for free buying the vacuum ^^ Now I just wash it with water. I don't notice any performance loss. I just do it to take care of it.

About once a month

I have 4 cats and we use a RoboRock 8 or 9. My bedroom is the only one it's not allowed in because the sound of it gets on my nerves, but it's noticeable when I do my weekly bedroom vacuums compared to the rest of the house. The only place there is still har around the house is when the furniture sits and blocks the robovac. Otherwise it's doing a fantastic job

Trust me you don’t need to drop $1800 on a robot vacuum. Any decent flagship Roborock will do, S8s or one of the higher end Q Revos. Saros is great but again you don’t really need them. Would avoid the other ones.

I've got my roborock S8 integrated. If it has an error or (rarely) gets stuck, HA detects it and annunciates over the google nest speaker that "Rockette has an error". Otherwise it might sit at the far end of the house while I'm in the basement and never hear the robot itself complaining.

Roborock is good. I have 2 S8, great

Indeed, have the S7 and the S8. No problems with them

Looks Like an S8 , Amazon had them on sale last week for $350 (white only) I picked one up too. Seems like this is the last standalone model they offer. All the new series are only offered with a dock that will do self emptying and other fancy stuff.

S8 anyday...

Another vote for Roborock S7/S8. I can't believe how great it is thus far. Just dump the dirty water tank / fill the clean water tank & that's it! (& change vacuum bag periodically - wish they went bagless here)

Roborock has a good implementation into HA which I've used the past year. Maybe the Q Revo will be something for you? Or a top model like the Sxx versions. I just switched to the eufy x10 pro omni and I'm bummed that there are no working solutions for HA for this model yet :(. I have to use another app like a noob.