Roborock - S8 Pro Ultra

I agree! I’ve owned older vacuum robots and our Roborock S8 Pro Ultra is so much better. I think it’s because it actually maps. Our floors are so much cleaner even with a gravel driveway and pets. We have 2 robots: 1 for each floor. I do a similar schedule as you: Upstairs (runs during the day while we work downstairs): 1. Deep clean on Monday 2. Vacuum on turbo with 2 passes on T/W 3. Vacuum then mop on Thursday 4. Ad-hoc vacuum then mop on Saturday or Sunday depending on if we leave the house for an extended period of time. (Every other Friday our cleaning lady comes so I don’t want the robot getting in her way) Downstairs (runs at night while we sleep): 1. Deep clean on Sunday 2. Vacuum on turbo with 2 passes on M/W/F 3. Vacuum then mop on T/Th/Sat

We just got a Roborock S8 Pro Ultra and it is the bomb. Vacuums and mops at night. We have three dogs and I wake up to clean floors. Best present I’ve ever bought myself. Previously had a roomba and was not so impressed, but it was a much cheaper model.

This absolutely clocks with my Outlook, which is actually quite reassuring. The S8 Pro was the best that I had ever tested until I tested the S8 maxv ultra and it replaced that.

ThW s8 line from roborock is great.

S8 pro. I know that this is an incredibly overwhelming and confusing decision, and in an ideal world, I would now give you 800 reasons to support why I said that. But it would be super duper double rainbow awesome if you just trusted me.

A lot of the times it’s a simple cleaning. I have s8 pro ultra and honestly a quick little clean keeps it good for 1-2 months. Not sure if this applies to you but a splash of vinegar in the clean/dirty water tanks go a long way

I personally think that the [Roborock S8 Pro Ultra](https://www.reddit.com/r/VacuumsTips/comments/1gs2his/robot_vacuums_for_chair_leg_obstacles_on_black/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) is an excellent choice for a robot vacuum that can effectively navigate around chair legs and other obstacles. It has advanced LiDAR navigation and ReactiveAI 3D obstacle avoidance, which allows it to accurately map your home and avoid getting stuck. If you're looking for a high-performance robot vacuum that can handle a variety of cleaning tasks, including mopping, the [S8 Pro Ultra](https://www.reddit.com/r/VacuumsTips/comments/1gs2his/robot_vacuums_for_chair_leg_obstacles_on_black/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) is definitely worth considering Imo. Although you might wanna wait until [Black Friday week deals](https://www.reddit.com/r/VacuumsTips/comments/1gs2his/robot_vacuums_for_chair_leg_obstacles_on_black/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) to snatch it. They are running a 39% Off deal starting from Nov 21st. Good luck.

I also have the S8 and so far it has been worth every penny.

2nd this, love mine and it works great. App works very well. No issues after 2 years, it’s much better than my Roomba.

In my experience, when you by parts from Aliexpress that are labeled "original", they are indeed original parts. Have ordered them several times for my S8 Pro Ultra and Qrevo Slim.

Check out vacuum wars on YouTube. They have a great selection of robot vacuums that they’ve reviewed. I just picked up a Roborock s8 Pro Ultra for under $700 refurbished by Roborock on eBay

Refurbished Roborock on eBay has been amazing for me. — I like their app too. Makes it easy to set specifications for flooring and no go zones. I have a lot of cats and dogs. A mix of flooring. I set the option so it vacuums carpet first before it mops any room, so it doesn’t go on carpet with a wet mop.

Oh and to add more details. I specifically got the S8 Pro Ultra (in white) for around $450. Normally I think they are $700ish but sometimes they go lower and eBay has like additional coupons / discounts . So it was on sale for $600 and then eBay had a discount for $150. But some other options don’t look that bad: Dreamy L10s Pro Ultra is $350 right now on eBay refurbished.

Too bad my Roborock S8 Pro Ultra isn’t on the list :(

The Roborock S8 Pro Ultra is a beast insane suction, rubber brushes that don’t tangle with fur, and it mops too (if you’re into that). For a cheaper but still effective option, the Eufy RoboVac X8 Hybrid gets the job done with dual brushes and strong suction. If you’ve got a heavy shedder, the iRobot Roomba j9+ is pricey but worth itself-emptying, avoids pet messes like a pro, and handles carpets like a champ. Avoid anything with bristle rollers

Unfortunately, all the models that are good with dealing with hair and are good at mopping do require dust bags. The official ones are cheap to buy on AliExpress or Taobao. The roborock Q Revo Curv/Edge was mentioned here but as it is not available in the Australian market and the fact that it will be priced beyond your budget, I do not recommend it. As such, I’d recommend the Dreame L10S Ultra as it is the only one that can deal with long dog hair at this budget. People have said fur and hair can go to the sides but this is an easily avoided problem if you buy the accompanying brush cover that prevents it from doing so. If you’re okay with cleaning fur from the sides for better carpet cleaning, you could also consider the roborock s8 pro ultra for its double rollers. I do not recommend ecovacs for several reasons. I remember a Korean user at a net cafe complained about how their much more expensive ecovacs model that was recently released failed to pick up loose fur balls even when their much cheaper Xiaomi model could.

Yep I too got an E25. It is super quiet even at the highest suction power. I was wondering if the vacuum was even working, especially comparing to my Roborock S8 Pro Ultra which is super loud at highest suction. Mopping is very effective and it doesn't use up much water at all. Build feels very solid and the bins are super easy to take out and clean. Cherry on top was that I got it for CAD 849 by using a 400$ launch special coupon plus 50$ online coupon. And, they are also sending me 4 free dust bags for providing my feedback. Super satisfied overall.

We have a German shepherd and a Roborock. It’s shedding season here and the thing works great. Life changing.

It’s a Roborock S8 pro ultra. So it cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars. But OH MY FUCKING GOD is it worth it. It’s the one with the vac and mop and it self-refills *and* self-empties (!) and i fucking love it so, so much. I’m not affiliated with Roborock and I have zero incentive to say all that stuff. I just love my dog a LOT - and I also love clean floors :=)

Look at alternatives to Roomba, such as Dreame, Eufy, and Roborock. Roomba has fallen far behind the compition. Take a look at Vacuum Wars for their ratings of the best robot vacuums, https://vacuumwars.com/best-vacuum-cleaners/robot-vacuums. There are multiple options at various price points, depending on what features you want. I own a Roborock S8 Pro Ultra and Roborock Qrevo Master, and had a Roomba S9+ prior to these.

The L40 and Mova p10 pro ultra are effectively identical. Same part numbers on the docks. Only difference being that the L40 can leave it's mop pads at the dock. The Dreame x50 is the best out of the ones you listed but it's probably out of your budget. The Roborock s8 pro ultra does not have a camera based obstacle avoidance system and is frankly old tech at this point, would not recommend it. The X40 ultra is possibly the best value out of the bunch it you can get it for $500-$700. Basically identical to the l40 and Mova P10 pro ultra but has longer battery life and slight difference obstacle avoidance sensors but still the l40 and X40 perform better than anything else for the money with regards to object avoidance. Since you have only hardfloors, I still think a roller mop style robot is probably best for you since spinning mop system tend to smear debris around while rollers like the Eufy s1 and E25/e28 always keep the mop clean. If you can get a Eufy e25 within your budget, I would get that, if not I would look at the Dreame l40 or Mova P10 pro ultra, which ever is cheaper.

If suction and smart navigation are your biggest priorities, here's what I found when I did this same research. I currently have the Roborock S8 Pro Ultra. I replaced the DreamBot L20 with the Roborock and have been very impressed with its ability of picking up pet hair and navigation. The Roomba j7 I have no expieriance with but my sister says its a great vaccum and has no complaints. The [Roborock S8 Pro Ultra](https://amzn.to/4kYsurH) is probably the most well-rounded premium option right now. Suction is excellent, the mapping is next-level (especially with multiple floors), and the self-emptying and mop-lifting features make it feel almost hands-off. It’s definitely an investment, but if you want something that actually gets deep into rugs *and* doesn’t get lost, it’s worth considering. The [iRobot Roomba j7+](https://amzn.to/4c0fzkZ) has super smart obstacle avoidance (great if you have pets or clutter), and it handles pet hair well, but its suction isn’t quite as strong as Roborock or Dreame. Still, it’s reliable and iRobot’s support is solid. If you're trying to balance price with performance, the [DreameBot L20 Ultra](https://amzn.to/427DKJQ) has been getting a lot of attention lately, strong suction, detailed mapping, and an auto-mop lifting feature. It’s kind of like the budget-conscious version of a Roborock Ultra. I’d probably skip the [Eufy X8](https://amzn.to/4hL0fKh) unless you’re on a tighter budget, it’s good, but the navigation and mopping aren’t quite on the same level as the others. I've read that it's a bit loud and struggles with battery life. Shark has great suction but can be hit-or-miss on software.

It looks like it's been about a month since you made this comment. Would you still say the 10 is better than the 10R? We have an older dog that is having more fecal accidents in the house that our S8 Pro Ultra has not detected leading to several unfortunate smears. We're looking for a new vacuum and I was leaning toward the 10R because I've seen some reviews online say it has better object detection, which is our main issue right now. We also have issues with hair getting stuck in the roller so the decreased tangle roller is a plus.

Yeah, pretty annoyed by that. It was the high end model the year before they announced matter support. I have a very hard time believing the hardware isn’t capable of it.

Similar, I have their S8 Pro Ultra and it works great for my fluffy dog. The Q Revo is very similar and I think cheaper/newer. I've never owned a robo vac before, but I imagine not having an auto empty dock would be a nuisance. I spend a few minutes per week taking care of the robot, and it saves significantly more time than that, so very worth it to me.

AFAIK only the S8 Pro Ultra and S8 MaxV Ultra support Matter. As it currently stands if you’re wanting to spend the extra money on one of these two models *just* because they support Matter, I would hold out until manufacturers update their lineups or see what magic Homebridge devs are able to make of HomeKit‘s support of robot vacuums.

I have 2 Roborock S8 Pro Ultra. They are awesome, much better than my previous expensive Roomba. Thought they are not cheap.

STAY AWAY FROM ROBOROCK! Do a quick search on error 13 and their customer support! I got Amazon to refund our purchase even though it was WAY past the return date becuase Roborock refused to cooperate or properly fix the issue while still under warranty! Sent our unit in S8 pro ultra, when it got back from repair, it was in worse shape, cleaned the house once, and immidately threw the error 13 when going to dock after it was done. Oh and the boards they replaced weren't even for the same model, unit is very clearly black, but it identifies as white after the repair 🤣 Their customer support is all through email after you call the 1800 number, and their response was basically we replaced the board in the unit and base station what do you want us to do? Um idk fix it, replace it or refund my money like your warranty says..... well they never emailed back. Calling the 1800 number you get the "were so sorrycwell escalate this and you'll recieve an email soon." No email just silence. TLDR Fuck roborock, buy something else!

Roborock S8 Pro Ultra. Works solid now for over a year. Doesn't leak, washes floors well, vacuums carpets, clear of mold. It rarely gets stuck, maybe 6 times per year.

Yeah, I ponied up the money for their S8 Pro Ultra when it first came out. All the normal things apply for robot vacuums but other than that, it just runs all day. My only problems were that it broke the front wheel support one time. I sent photos to support and I had a new wheel fairly quickly. I'd say that the only thing to really look for is that sometimes it'll clog or jam in weird places and it might not tell you for a while. So if you stop paying attention, it'll run all the time but not actually do anything when the vac gets full and can't actually discharge back into the trash. I think one time it picked up a dried up hairball and lodged it inside. Another was a USB stick which I'm still not entirely sure how it got picked up in the first place. So you just flip it upside down and unscrew a bunch of ports and full clean it out and you're good. The map sometimes gets weird. Not enough to be a hassle but also just something to look out for if it starts bouncing around room to room. Like open and closed closet doors made it interpret things differently. Like I had my office as a room, but then a few pixels of the bedroom closet also registered as the office? So I just deleted the map and rescanned and everything's been great again. But all told, I'm real happy with it. I'd pay full price for it again if I needed to.

Roborock s8 pro ultra with a mop. Ridiculously expensive but it works. We’ve had it for about 18 months. The roombas couldn’t keep up and died in a year. It gets the seeds and feathers up. Not the dried poop. We have a a paint scraper we use to scrape the poop daily off the floor and the roborock will sweep the scraped dried poop up then mop it. We still have to vacuum and mop but it’s much more manageable. We have 4 free roaming cockatiels.

Yup, i also have s8 pro ultra and i ended up marking it as a no-go zone because it was struggling until dead battery to pass it... I'd like a setting of a zone like a "pass-through "

Happy with Roborock S8 Pro Ultra, it meets the requirements you provided. I’ve got the drain and fill model, which has features you say you don’t need, but are very convenient.

I have s8 pro ultra, it did start disconnecting from my WiFi randomly but I was able to make a new network and it works 🤷‍♂️ It's a good robo 

I have a S8 pro ultra and a Q Revo Curv, and while it's been a couple months since I used the S8 (bad vac motor) It does seem to show more obstacles in the map while cleaning even though it doesn't have a camera

I'm uneasy about getting a robot hooked into the plumbing when I've yet to have one (besides a Roomba) last more than a year. My Deebot T8 had 2 wheel failures within a year then the 3rd died just after the warranty My Roborock S8 Pro Ultra charging error (known issue for years going back to S5) then the fan motor died. My first Q Revo Curv started having docking issues after just a week and eventually failed to recognize the dock at all. Now on my 2nd unit

Second this recommendation. Nothing like coming home to fully vacuumed and freshly mopped floors. I have the S8 Pro Ultra and freaking love this thing.

I have three roborocks (Saros 10R, S8 Max V ultra, S8 Pro Ultra) with the oldest being two years old now. All three have built in auto dispensers. Besides using roborocks floor solution I've used any european floor cleaning solution brand you can think off and everything has been fine so far. Only drawback from from some of the non roborock solutions is that they do sometimes make the mops smell bed. Only thing I stay clear off is using cleaning products which have alcohol in them as that can eat up the rubbery bits inside the dock and robot.

I have the s8 pro ultra. It's overkill, but awesome. My dad has the S8+. Both do a really good job.

I’d go with the Roborock S8 Pro Ultra. It sucks like anything, dodges stuff like it actually has eyes, and won’t make you empty it every five minutes. Plus, it’s been around long enough that parts are easy to find (because let’s be honest, no gadget lasts forever). If you’re cool with a little mopping on the side, it does that too, but the vacuuming alone is solid. If you want to explore more options, I have recently come across a thread too. It has [amazing pics ](https://www.reddit.com/r/SmartRecommendations/comments/1jcd5yp/which_is_the_best_robot_vacuum_cleaner_for_wood/)if that serves your purpose!

Roborock S8 Pro Ultra does a fine job

I have an S8 pro ultra and long-haired dogs. Never had an issue but normal maintenance is clearing the sides of the rollers (easy to do since the mounts slide out). The newer version (maxV ultra) is currently on sale for $1k on Amazon.

A bit over a year, the only issue I've run into is it can get stuck under chairs. My solution to that has just been to add no-go zones. Other than that it has no problem dealing with objects moving in a fairly large floor space (>1500sf per floor). I let it run at night so I don't have to work around it.

Nope, it's a lot quieter than my old Roomba i3 was. Running it in the same room might be a problem depending on how light you sleep but running it on the other side of the door isn't likely to wake you up.

I went with s8 pro ultra

So I have 2 dogs, both shed a lot and get a lot of mud from our yard and generally where I live is quite rainy so all after the rain the dogs do get the floor dirty Because of this I absolutely needed a mop and of course vaccum for hair and carpet as well. I use Roborock (https://amzn.to/48YmUPv) and have been quite satisfied. By the time I clean them after their mud fiasco the roborock is able to mop off mud and wet dirt off the floor. I can also just clean a small area that has dirt and get the robovac to the dock again and all this with the app which is super helpful. I also block some high wire areas in the app so I am guessing you can do so for your carpet if needed. I prefer it's self cleaning as it helps me use the mop or vacuum twice a day if needed too and then I just empty it out when full. Generally I am a heavy user and with that I empty the dock station every 3 days. Another reason why I choose Roborock for my main area is because with dogs, sometimes you need to replace parts ( is m too lazy to untangle if need be) so I just replace the parts and many companies make Roborock parts and are cheap so thats a plus. I have also used EUFY l60: https://amzn.to/4kfWGgN for my top floors but the dogs don't come there often but there is enough hair in the house to be picked up and the L60 works fine there which is vaccum only.

I also stand by Roborock! Have this one! https://amzn.to/48YmUPv

. I had pretty similar requirements to yours but had also added mop as a requirement because I also have hardwood flooring plus kitchen and bathrooms can do with a good mop every now and then Context: I have two over shedding beings in the house , one is a dog and other is a human, so I can comfortably say this robot I choose work for both. I have two robots, one for upstairs bedroom and bathroom and one for large downstairs living area that sees more of the chaos So my suggestions: 1) roborock! This is my 2nd roborock in 7 years and honestly the price is justified. It lasts forever if cleaned out and change it's parts (app tells you when to) so this is the one I have: https://amzn.to/48YmUPv 2) Shark is a more recent addition for the top floor: https://amzn.to/490cwa9

I had pretty similar requirements to yours but had also added mop as a requirement because I also have hardwood flooring plus kitchen and bathrooms can do with a good mop every now and then Context: I have two over shedding beings in the house , one is a dog and other is a human, so I can comfortably say this robot I choose work for both. I have two robots, one for upstairs bedroom and bathroom and one for large downstairs living area that sees more of the chaos So my suggestions: 1) roborock! This is my 2nd roborock in 7 years and honestly the price is justified. It lasts forever if cleaned out and change it's parts (app tells you when to) so this is the one I have: https://amzn.to/48YmUPv 2) Shark is a more recent addition for the top floor: https://amzn.to/490cwa9

What a fun way to ask Robo Vacuum questions. I had pretty similar requirements to yours but had also added mop as a requirement because I also have hardwood flooring plus kitchen and bathrooms can do with a good mop every now and then Context: I have two over shedding beings in the house , one is a dog and other is a human, so I can comfortably say this robot I choose work for both. I have two robots, one for upstairs bedroom and bathroom and one for large downstairs living area that sees more of the chaos So my suggestions: 1) roborock! This is my 2nd roborock in 7 years and honestly the price is justified. It lasts forever if cleaned out and change it's parts (app tells you when to) so this is the one I have: https://amzn.to/48YmUPv 2) Shark is a more recent addition for the top floor - was very much in budget (not too expensive like roborock and I could test it in a store as Shark products are available to test in some stores) , I bought it through amazon: https://amzn.to/490cwa9 Good luck! Let me know if you have any questions Also both have good mapping ( especially roborock) and I am amazed at the self cleaning - only need to empty once in a few weeks based on our use

Which country are you trying it from? Link is from the USA, I linked Roborock S8 pro that I have but is bulky so make sure you have room. Qrevo and qrevo curve is good too. I haven't faced any issues with Roborock yet!

Hello! I have posted this before.. but I am a dog owner as well and here is my tested recommendation So I have 2 dogs, both shed a lot and get a lot of mud from our yard and generally where I live is quite rainy so all after the rain the dogs do get the floor dirty Because of this I absolutely needed a mop and of course vaccum for hair and carpet as well. I use Roborock (https://amzn.to/48YmUPv) and have been quite satisfied. By the time I clean them after their mud fiasco the roborock is able to mop off mud and wet dirt off the floor. I can also just clean a small area that has dirt and get the robovac to the dock again and all this with the app which is super helpful. Tried and tested for pets: I had linked the Roborock qrevo: [https://amzn.to/4jZ2wCU](https://amzn.to/4jZ2wCU) ; . I like it for its parts and as I mentioned I clean every 2-3 days only Qrevo is great too and I have seen it work pretty well! [https://amzn.to/42ZmAyb](https://amzn.to/42ZmAyb) I also block some high wire areas in the app so I am guessing you can do so for your carpet if needed. I prefer it's self cleaning as it helps me use the mop or vacuum twice a day if needed too and then I just empty it out when full. Generally I am a heavy user and with that I empty the dock station every 3 days. I suggest roborock also because of its spare parts are generally easily available by other companies and I get them and keep in bulk. When the brush gets too tangled I just change it and it's not that big of a lift. This is my second roborock and I do stand by the brand. First one lasted me 4 years with 1 dog and I am hoping this one lasts me well too!

I have an S8 Pro Ultra (yeah, stupid names) and it's been fantastic. I have a 200sq/m single floor house where all the floors are Italian ceramic tiles. It sweeps and mops daily for me. I'm really pleased. I'm sure there's newer models. And these robot companies are really bad at providing older models at lower prices. But, right about when new models come out, I think that's when you look for the last gen one.

As u/too-much-cinnamon said, it just uses water. Although, you can buy (and I sometimes use) a brand-specific detergent where you can drop one cap-full of detergent into the water. Everything else they said is is spot on. From the efficiency to the fact that every now and again, I vacuum, sweep, and mop by hand. But, the robot does a great job keeping the house in generally good order. I just wish it had a bigger water tank, because 200sq/m of house (what's that? Around 2400sq/feet?) is a lot of house for it. I get about 2 cleanings before I have to dump the gross, dirty water and refill the clean water.

It's... not quiet. You can adjust the vacuum (and mop) level to quiet it down a bit. But, it's also not *that* loud. I have it set to clean the house around 5am, because with my bedroom door closed, it won't bother me while I'm asleep. Time-wise... I can't answer directly right now. It's not super fast. Definitely at least an hour. Depends on how many doors were left open to rooms for it to get in. Poor little guy still lacks hands to open doors with. A great tactic for me has also been to kick it off when I leave the house. And if you forget, you can activate it remotely.

Roborock S8 Pro Ultra checks most of your boxes. It does mopping with auto mop lifting, auto emptying, and works well on polished concrete. You can integrate it with Home Assistant using the Valetudo or Xiaomi integration, which supports zone cleaning and presence-based automations. It has cliff sensors for stairs and can be automated to avoid running when motion is detected nearby. Solid all-around option if you're looking for reliability and HA control.

I got my Matic a few days ago and have run it through its paces. Here are my thoughts… I want the preface my thoughts by addressing a lot of what I have read on here that stated this is still a beta product. While I agree with that sentiment I feel like that is the trend with technology from video games to features on mobile platforms. More and more things seem to have a so called beta label. Now onto my review… The app, while it’s still in TestFlight works incredibly well. After speaking with support I understand why those chose that route. App review can be slow and plenty of app devs have complained about the process. The ability to quickly push updates to fix bugs is worth the trade off. Devs have been quick to respond to issues and push updates out every few days. Even as a TestFlight app, the app is superior to anything I have used to date including apps from iRobot, Neato and Roborock. The mapping in the app is insane and I love it. My favorite thing is the ability to tap a spot on the map and have the Matic go and clean that area. I don’t believe any other vacuum provides this ability. Now onto the vacuum itself. Yes it’s taller than other units and no it won’t go under furniture. This can be a deal breaker for some but not for me. I want something that can do the basic cleaning and then I hit everything when we deep clean. I'll start with what my wife loves most, this thing is much quieter than our RoboRock. Her biggest gripe was when the roborock would empty its dustbin it would always wake her up as I run it overnight and she loves not having to deal with that anymore. In terms of cleaning I’ll start with the biggest issues I have found which is edge cleaning. Yes this is coming before the end of the year but as it stands today it doesn’t hit the edges. Support has confirmed it’s being fixed and can expect an update before Christmas. Will update once that happens. Other than that the mapping doesn’t allow room editing but that feature is also coming before Christmas. Now onto the pluses, this thing cleans like no other robot vacuum I have owned. I love the fact that it hits every area from multiple directions to make sure it didn’t miss anything. I saw a video posted earlier where it was doing this and thought it was weird and that it was confused before I got mine and I finally understand what that video was showing. It was just being thorough at its job which is exactly what you want. It does this for both mopping and vacuuming for anyone wondering. It detects floor types easily and unlock my Roborock it won’t try to mop my carpets and rugs. Overall I am really glad I preordered my unit and also took delivery when I did. I personally don’t mind being a beta tester for a company like Matic as their support is super quick to respond. This is definitely a huge bonus in itself as many others companies customer support are absolutely horrible which I and I’m sure many others can attest to. If you are on the fence about support Matic I would definitely do it. If you have any questions feel free to ask and I’ll do my best to respond. Update: Thank you Matic for the swag. The kids loved the stickers and can't wait to put them on. The holiday update was pushed today and love that they included some cool holiday easter eggs like the Matic can play 3 different holiday tunes, the app shows the Matic dressed up as a reindeer but best of all is edge cleaning and editing rooms is now available. I am now able to split and combine rooms and just tested the edge cleaning and it works as expected https://preview.redd.it/n9m3x5h0a38e1.jpg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7b649ca159d46d5ce03d5a60c19e60a3e95058f

I don’t know much about either the s1 pro or the x40 so I can’t speak to them. I preordered based on promised features some of which are currently missing but coming soon. The Matic auto empties into a on board bag. What app features do you think are missing or why do you believe the app isn’t functional? The app to me works as good if not better than any other app I have used to control a robovac. Below are the features that are available today and reasons why I would pick the Matic… 1. Privacy. Everything stays on device and can be restricted to be controlled locally via Bluetooth should you choose to. This may not matter to everyone but I hated that my Roborock would try to send data to Chinese servers. Luckily I saw the traffic on my firewall and was able to block it.  2. Precise cleaning. Once mapped you can select an area for the vacuum to clean rather than going and cleaning an entire room.  3. Maintenance. I am going to assume this is true for anything that has a dedicated canister for dirty water and debris. Cleaning the dirty water tank was a pain on my Roborock and required weekly deep cleaning or it smelled horrible. I love that Matic puts everything into a bag that can be thrown away. Yes this adds cost over time but let’s be honest here. Who is buying a $1000 vacuum that can’t afford some bags. Also no need to deep clean a docking station which in itself can take time and effort.  From a cleaning perspective I don’t know if the others mentioned go over areas from multiple directions to make sure it got everything. Units I have owned didn’t so I love that about Matic. 

I had the S8 Pro Ultra 

Mine also arrives this week. Excited and a little worried but will give it a shot. Hoping to replace my Roborock

I personally have had a Roomba, then two different Neato models followed by my Roborock S8 Pro Ultra. While the Matic app is fully baked in yet I feel like it’s better than all the other brands I have tested. The Matic is also the quietest if the bunch and is comparable to the rest in its cleaning prowess. While I have only had it for two days only time will tell how it holds up.

I have an s8 pro ultra as well. And then the s8 for another floor. Disappointing but if you use controller for HomeKit and a Siri shortcut you can get by

roborock s8 pro ultra. Pricey but really reliable and easy to maintain. Great for cleaning up cat litter too

I have a Roborock S8 Pro Ultra with the vibrating (smearing) mop pad and am very interested in the Eufy S1 Pro or similar rolling mop robot. However, I have 2 large heavy shedding dogs, so another critical feature is avoiding hair tangling in the roller vacuum. I'm constantly pulling the dog hair off the ends of the roller mops in my S8 so am interested in Roborock's new Dual Anti-Tangle system but really want both features (roller mop and anti-tangle) if I'm going to invest in a new vacuum. How is the hair management and tangling in the S1 Pro? I've heard the carpet vacuum component of the S1 Pro is not great, which is why I've waited on getting it.

We also have a single story home, 1250sqft, several carpeted rooms, some tile & vinyl rooms. Bought a certified refurnished S8 Pro Ultra on eBay for like $650. ITS AMAZING. Our floors are ALWAYS clean and I find myself sometimes wishing a floor was somewhat dirty just so I have an excuse to run the vacuum and see how spotless it is afterwards. Can’t speak to the other models but can confirm the S8 Pro Ultra has been awesome for our home. Two adults & a heavy shedding dog! Certified refurbished from eBay comes with a 2yr warranty, and the device was in phenomenal condition. Only sign of use are a few expected scratches on the front/back bumpers.

FYI - eBay certified refurbished is great. Got a 2yr warranty, certified refurbished S8 Pro Ultra for like $515 on a sale. Entire dock and docking components were brand new. Unit was used but only with very light signs of use. I was very impressed and still am!

Strange. I couldn’t either. I love the mini rollers idea as well but at that price you could get 2 good roborocks or a great but slightly not as stellar one with the q revo master for currently on sale $800 . It has a BLADE that cuts the hair off the roller. These things go on sale like last years car models. It’s a great investment but being over $1000 when I could get one that does just as good a job with slightly more maintenance… ( I have the s8 pro ultra and love it. Got a discounted refurbished Amazon renewed one and on sale. No regrets.) EDIT. I hate hair in the rollers too. Im really curious to know now if the blade is effective. You make a good point about the hair. We’re getting these things because we don’t want to hassle with the vacuuming. It’s hard to put a price on convenience.

I have a Roborock s8 pro or something. The one without the camera. It’s great, we have 3 cats and it keeps the fur under control. It has a mop as well which is nice for the hardwood floors. It does occasionally get stuck if we leave crap on the floor and it will suck up cat toys and get stuck. It can also struggle with the edges of rugs sometimes too. Over all I’m glad we have it and would buy another one if it broke.

I have the S8 Pro Ultra, and love it. In our case, we gave up our house cleaners for our own cleaning + this vacuum. So over time the money savings made it economical.

I have the same model as u/Praesentius and I just use water. When you use it several times a week, it keeps the floor at just a very good level of clean. No special liquid needed.  Still waaay more efficient than a hand mop. Its amazing to me how much dirt is in the dirty water tank when i empty it, despite just being two people and two cats, being a no shoes house, it vacuuming at the same time so its getting that the vacuum couldnt, and using it ~4+ times a week, with a deep vacuum day with a regular vacuum every weekend.  Makes me never, ever want carpets ever again. My cat has very bad mite allergies, and this vacuum is a must have for us for keeping the floors clean of all dust, dander, and dirt. If you have laminate or wood, you should still use a hand mop every few months with something specifically meant to protect the health of that material, as just water can dry it out over a long period of time. But for just daily maintenance cleaning, a self cleaning mop and vacuum robot is a complete game changer. 

I've had a roborock s8 pro ultra for 2 years. 5 things on it have broken \- Clean Water Tank latch \- the rubber gasket on the dock for the dust bin emptying channel goo-ified, \- the roller securing piece split (My fault I put it in wrong) \- the mop pad dovetail, \- the mop pad velcro panel Only the Clean Water Tank latch was unrepairable, but it is only minor inconvenience. Everything else was an easy fix with super glue.

I have the S8 pro ultra and am about to upgrade to the 10r. I'd say go for the 10r!

100% yes. I have a Roboroc S8 pro ultra and will soon upgrade to the new saros. One of the best purchases I've ever made.

I appreciate these posts. I love my S8 Pro Ultra and have been debating if the z70 is worth the upgrade. I'm going for the 10r. Cool tech but I really don't need the arm.

I've had the s8 pro ultra with the single mop pad and now have the saros 10r with the rotating dual mop pads. The dual mop pads are superior imo. Both on your list have the duo divide brush which tangles less but sacrifice vacuum performance. Honestly, if I was in your boat, I would maybe go for the Qrevo master. You get the original vacuum brushes and the dual rotating mop pads and it's on mega sale right now.

Amazon has the Qrevo Master for $799 ($1599) right now. This is the best deal you're gonna get. I'm on my 2nd 10r (coming from S8 Pro Ultra) and I'm not impressed. It's sooooo slow. It takes 2 charges and over 2 hours to clean <700sqft. Love the dual spinning mops. Duo divide brush doesn't tangle but the suction...kinda sucks...or doesn't suck! 🤭 The one thing I will give the 10r is that it rarely gets stuck. The Qrevo master has the spinning mops, self cleaning dock, flexi-arm, obstacle avoidance, lidar nav, and the original vacuum brushes. It has almost all the things the 10r does and it's half the price!

I have dark concrete floors and rugs in every room. No carpet. I have 3 cats so lots of hair and cat litter. My S8 Pro Ultra vacuum performance was superior. The 10r leaves behind litter and debris particularly on the concrete. Does pretty well on rugs. I don't hate the 10r I just expected it to be a major upgrade and so far it's not. Better in some ways and worse in others. I just can't get past the fact that it took my S8 and hour to clean my <900sq ft apartment - maybe 60% battery used and my 10r takes over 2 hours to do the same job and needs to recharge to finish, thus taking 4ish hours every day. For this reason alone I will likely return it. Mopping performance is an improvement.

S8 I had to take tangles out weekly. Very little to no tangling with the 10R

I feel your pain. Roborock is surely having some growing pains. They really need to simplify their offerings. The first time I bought a Roborock they had maybe 3 - fast forward a few short years later and the models have exploded and not in a good way. I absolutely adored my S8 Pro Ultra when I got it. It was light years ahead of anything I have ever tried. I told everyone who would listen how much I loved it. I upgraded to the Saros 10r and honestly I'm a bit underwhelmed. I'm just not seeing it as much of an "upgrade" as I expected from all the hype. Don't get me wrong it's amazing tech, but a bit overhyped if you're coming from a previous Roborock model. And it's so darn slow....but it cleans pretty darn well for my needs and is quieter than the S8 so I'm adjusting. The S8 vacuum was better and the saros mop is better. For good vacuum performance get a model with the original dual brushes. Hair gets trapped on the ends and you have to remove it weekly but it's easy. The newer duo divide brush doesn't tangle hair but it sacrifices vacuum performance - it's missed stuff the other brushes didn't. Mop- highly recommend the dual spinning mops. Impressive how much better it is over the single mop pad. If you don't pick up your stuff (toys, socks, etc) get a newer model with better obstacle avoidance. Those 3 things and you will have a great product (get the extended warranty). I would pass on the Saros z70, they had to sacrifice a lot for that arm and it doesn't do all that much.

I have the roborock S8 Pro Ultra at home and it has done wonders in my house, I also have hardwood floors.

I have 7 dogs and use the Roborock S8 pro ultra. Works really well as I got tired of using my Dyson 3x4 times a day.

It's really good if you buy one of the good ones. One of the best purchases I made in recent years (Roborock S8 Pro). My previous attempt some years ago was a failure though. Had to get rid of the useless POS (one of the first Roombas).

For tile floors, the Roborock S8 Pro Ultra is a top recommendation. It features dual rubber roller brushes and advanced obstacle avoidance, providing powerful suction and effective mopping capabilities. Its hands-free maintenance makes it suitable for daily use. Another excellent option is the Narwal Freo X Ultra, which excels in mopping with its downward pressure and large water tanks, ensuring thorough cleaning of textured surfaces.

Vibrating are not good? You know that bs right? The S8 pro ultra is 4th place in vacuum wars mopping test. Also like any other appliance it needs periodic maintenance not sure what’s surprising about that

Maintenance is literally mentioned on the app. You have timers for every single part you need maintenance. As for mopping https://vacuumwars.com/best-robot-vacuum-mop-combo/ It’s combining mop performance and mopping features, if you check only the mop stain score you have 136 S1 pro then 132 Revo master then 2 robots with 119 and then S8 pro with 118. Indeed in the mopping video test he mentions the surprise was S8 maxv which scored poorly. Jamie Andrews and smarthomeassistant also hadn’t got a mopping performance so low https://www.smarthomeassistent.de/saugroboter_vergleichen?sr=114007,118934 One has to look several sources. There’s no source of the one and only truth

Nope I meant what I said I meant and no, they are not static check roborock or Dreame website is very well drawn there. And for the record I have an S8 pro ultra which does that. It’s a 2 year old flagship so I can’t believe how outdated people are in here that don’t know about it

So, first assuming we are comparing S8 maxv vs edge/curv, because they are the obvious contenders, there’s no price diff since they cost the same even the maxv sometimes more depending discounted or not. Secondly, I have my S8 pro for 2 years, same rollers as every other S8, one woman in the house if I leave the roller for “a few months” it would be so clogged that it won’t be able to spin anymore. I’m removing quite a lot of hair out of it every 2 weeks maintenance. So yeah, not sure where you pulled all that from.

If you don’t need the best of the best obstacles avoidance then, Have you checked QRevo Curv and edge ? They should be in the 1K ballpark too and they have anti tangling roller and side brush plus the dock is easier to maintain, smth I don’t mind in my S8 but you having 3 kids might be smth you consider. As others mentioned discard the Z70 it has a lot of compromises for the arm.

Thanks for the extra details — that helps a ton. You're right to focus on mopping performance, especially if you don’t have carpets. In that case, *rotating mops* (like on the L10s Pro) usually outperform the VibraRise vibration pads on the S8/S8 Pro when it comes to actual scrubbing power on hard floors. The Dreame setup is more aggressive and consistent for stuck-on grime. Quick breakdown now that I know: ✅ **Dreame L10s Pro** * Rotating mop pads = better for homes with mostly hard floors * Suction is excellent (basically tied with S8) * Great overall hardware for the price * Main limitation: no auto-empty base, but you already accepted that tradeoff ✅ **Roborock S8 / S8 Pro** * Strong suction and dual brush system * Vibration mop is solid, but less effective than Dreame’s rotation in most daily use * Cleaner UI, smarter map features * S8 Pro adds auto mop lifting, which is helpful *only* if you had carpets (you don’t) ✅ **Q8 Max+** * A little newer than S8, cheaper, and adds some S8-level features (like dual brushes) * No rotating or vibrating mop * You’d downgrade mopping if you switched 🎯 **Bottom Line:** You made a solid pick with the L10s Pro *for your use case* — no carpets, hard floors, care about mop quality, and don’t need the base. Suction is more or less tied across these models, but Dreame gives you better scrubbing where it counts. If you’re still tempted by the S8 Pro, ask yourself: Would you pay extra *just* for map interface, firmware polish, and base compatibility? If not, stick with the L10s Pro and don’t look back. You got the right tool for the job.

I've had my Roborock S6 for 3.5 years and it's been great. It runs 3 days a week over a fully carpeted apartment to help pick up the hair of our two long-hair cats. You can get replacement parts easy which is nice because the rollers and filters wear out over time. Looking online it appears that the Roborock S8 Pro Ultra or Roborock S8 Plus is the one that is generally recommended for hardwood floors. For dogs I'd probably recommend getting one with the self-emptying cannister, even though they're more expensive. As a side note, if you want to get a robot mop, don't use the combination vacuum/mop machines. Just get one that is exclusively a robot mop. Because the combo machines will never be quite as good as one that has only one dedicated function.

I have the Roborock Q Revolution Master and also the Pro. They have these features and are good machines.

Oh I had it, it’s even worse. Try testing out its avoidance with almost anything, especially on carpets.

If you don’t have pets, the pro is definitely the best for the price.

We have a roborock s8 ultra maxv something. Has a camera, AI and Lidar. Pretty damn good at obstacle avoidance and has a blade inside for hair.

Ours (X1 Omni) is about to be passed on to the next unlucky sod who’ll have to cope with its demented behaviours that can only be solved temporarily with off-and-on-again. We’ll have a Roborock S8 Ultra instead.

S7 / S8 Ultra docks have an extra complex mop washer which is not needed in a Qrevo. It tends to get messy in the dock tray and the thing is hard to clean because it's not removable. Furthermore it makes the docks expensive and thus less economical. If you can't stand your appliance being covered with residue, don't buy. The revo tech needs less maintenance.

The fact that I can't action routines from Alexa is annoying me right now. Performance wise, its been great and a signifcant improvement from my old Neato

So I can currently say Alexa clean the kitchen, for example - this will make the my S8 Ultra do one pass (cycle) and mop the kitchen, which is fine. However if I go into the Roborock app I have routines saved for clean kitchen, with 3 cycles instead of 1. I need/want a way of being able to trigger the saved routines I have within the Roborock app via alexa [https://forum.roborock.com/discussion/6241/how-do-i-ask-alexa-to-start-a-roborock-routine](https://forum.roborock.com/discussion/6241/how-do-i-ask-alexa-to-start-a-roborock-routine)

Roborock S8 ultra. We love it. Runs every other day, vacuum and mop. Have had it about a year and a half

We just got an S8 Ultra and it's great. The mop does a decent job but stuck on or big messes need manual intervention. With things that are stuck we have success in just pretreating with cleaner and letting it sit and then telling the robot to mop the area.

While robot vacuums do not replace hand vacuuming or mopping from a "deep clean" perspective, the Roborock S8 Ultra has turned those into an 'every other month' activity for my pet-owning household. YMMV depending on what it would need to tackle for your home, but the in-depth customisation and time saved has made it the best appliance I've spent money on in the last few years. YouTube channels 'The Hook Up' and 'Vacuum Wars' do good comparison videos and might help you get an idea of what you can expect.

The dual roller roborock vacuum does great with pet hair.

Lmao these numbers i bought an s8 refurbished with 20 hrs usage for 200 and it changed my life

Also have an s8 with vibrarise. I’ve read that the super “in” dual rotating mops aren’t proven to be better than vibrarise. What I will say is that I think mops on robot vacuums are still a “maintainer/extender” feature than a true mop up stains type of feature. If you manually mop, the s8 will make it so you have to do it less often. It’s not a replacement for that first initial manual mop. Besides that, I’ve enjoyed the s8 as it was an upgrade from my original s4. Obstacle avoidance is pretty good, although, I’m just used to tidying up before running it now a days.

I have 4 cats and we use a RoboRock 8 or 9. My bedroom is the only one it's not allowed in because the sound of it gets on my nerves, but it's noticeable when I do my weekly bedroom vacuums compared to the rest of the house. The only place there is still har around the house is when the furniture sits and blocks the robovac. Otherwise it's doing a fantastic job

Trust me you don’t need to drop $1800 on a robot vacuum. Any decent flagship Roborock will do, S8s or one of the higher end Q Revos. Saros is great but again you don’t really need them. Would avoid the other ones.

I have had my new Saros 10R for a bit over a month now and I am so obsessed with it I keep recommending it to all of my friends. I have two floors, with an S8 upstairs that I really liked. Until now, I used to carry it downstairs whenever I needed it. The 10R caught my attention, especially for its rotating mop system. Even though it is almost 4 times the current price of the S8, I’m really happy with it. In the end, it’s the price of an iPhone, but it’s truly an excellent robot that I use every day ✅ **The advantages**: • **The battery!!** Lasts MUCH better than the S8. It cleans 100m² in one go without any problem, even on high vacuuming modes. • Very effective even on carpets. I groom and sometimes trim my dog’s hair on the carpet and it vacuums everything quite well! It lifts its mops before going over them and can even leave them at the base. • Avoids obstacles (cables, clothes on the floor, etc.) *way* better than the S8. I would always have to make sure there’s no socks on the floor with the S8 otherwise it’d get stuck in it most of the times. • The rotating mops clean my floors really well! S8 was pretty bad at mopping ( still better than what I used to do myself). They’re automatically washed with hot water and dried after use. I checked several times, and they really do come out clean and dry. • Not too noisy. It’s a bit loud when rinsing the mops, but it doesn’t last long. The cleaning is less loud than the S8. It also has a silent mode, which is good enough to watch TV but not to have an online meeting in the same room IMO. • Much more precise and careful around walls! It doesn’t bump into them. • Lots of customization options, especially for water usage in each room, perfect for wooden floors. • Somehow manages to fit underneath my super low bed, which I struggled to clean myself with a regular vacuum cleaner. ❌ **What I don’t like: ** • The base is huge (but looks nice, luckily!). Note that I haven’t had any other bases before so I can’t compare with what size they normally are. • Sometimes it still gets stuck between chairs or in spots where, at this price range, I had hoped it wouldn’t. But this is really occasional. • Once in a while it’s overly cautious: if my dog is in the way or if there’s a tight passage, it can hesitate too much, waste time, and sometimes even decide to just return to the base instead of doing its job Nothing else to complain about: honestly, I don’t see how they can make the next one better! If you’re hesitant about getting it, I I really recommend it. I wasn’t unhappy with my S8, but this is just on another level. Best purchase of the year for me!

Of these, the worst mopping will be the Q5 and Q8 robots, which just have stationary pads attached to the back. The S8 also has a pad attached to the back, but includes a scrubbing motion via a plate that vibrates at a high speed. It's better than the Q5 and Q8. The best mopping will be on the Qrevo and Eufy X10. They have spinning mop pads, a dock which refills the water tank on the robot from its own water tank, and also cleans the pads automatically and stores the dirty water in another tank on the dock. Of the last two, each has its strengths and weaknesses. The X10 will be better at obstacle avoidance. The Qrevo is a Roborock, which has a better reputation for quality and reliability than the Eufy, and is also rated a little better than the Eufy at a lot of things: vacuuming performance, mopping performance, etc. It also can swing out one of its mop pads for better edge and corner cleaning, something the Eufy can't do. In some cases, obstacle avoidance is really critical, in which case I'd recommend the Eufy. Otherwise, the Qrevo is likely your best bet.

If all you care about is the vacuuming performance, the dyson robot vacuum is the best performer (especially against fine dust and deep carpets), If you want other commodities/features, then the roborock S7 is good. The s8 and newer units have more features but decreased vacuuming performance. I wouldn't get a roomba unless you value support/warranty the most, irobot vacuums aren't the best anymore but they do support their machines for a long time and support is better than what you will get with roborock/dreame/dyson. Regardless of what you choose, modern robot vacuums will do a good job.

No it's not bad advice, vacuumwars tests are often not representative of real world scenarios and fail to mention some of the degradation modern releases have had over older robot vacuums. To be fair, on his review of the S8, he did mention the reduction in performance over the S7, however, he didn't showcase how bad it is compared to the old S7 (particularly against deep carpets and tiled floors). You can see what I mean on this channel: [https://youtu.be/VVnX3uhBiTQ](https://youtu.be/VVnX3uhBiTQ) , the owner uses multiple carpets of different density and materials, uses certified test dust along with other challenges that you'd expect robot vacuums to be able to deal with (tiled floors, hard floors, etc). You can find similar reviews on asian blog posts (chinese & japanese in particular), where roborock gets way more critiques for overhyping their products and reducing the quality of new releases while having zero after-sales support.

Looks Like an S8 , Amazon had them on sale last week for $350 (white only) I picked one up too. Seems like this is the last standalone model they offer. All the new series are only offered with a dock that will do self emptying and other fancy stuff.

I have had excellent results with Roborock S8s and Saros 10R with Home Assistant. All of my Roborock app routines were fully integrated into Home Assistant as entities. Now I can run every aspect right from Home Assistant, and by extension, through Alexa using voice routines. This is fantastic! I have used other robovacs with home assistant, but I have never had them integrate so well! Since Roborock robovacs are the only thing I am qualified to talk about, I will make some suggestions. I, personally, would avoid automatically detangling roller brushes. They do detangle very well. But they do not clean as well, especially with lots of pet hair and on rugs and carpets. The dual roller systems take a few minutes to maintain, but they clean much, much better than the single split roller systems that auto detangle. Personally, I would seriously consider something along the lines of a Roborock Qrevo Master. It is a great compromise between dock automation and good vacuuming ability. It has the dual rollers systems for excellent vacuuming, a mostly automated dock, but it does make some compromises. It is a bit more than you want to spend. But it is an excellent system that offers a lot at a much lower price than other models.

That depends entirely on what kind of obstacles and thresholds you need to overcome. Keep in mind that these are primitive cleaning machines, even the fancy, expensive ones. Expecting much more from them is a bit ridiculous. The only reason to get the new, fancy navigation system with better obstacle avoidance is if one's home is a mess and/or there is a risk of pet waste on the floor. The new navigation system is only a bit better, not much better than lidar. And it is far from perfect. I pick all the stuff on our floors up (mostly cat toys) before vacuuming anyway. The fancy obstacle avoidance features are wasted on me. I have a Saros 10R. I much prefer my old lidar S8s for their significantly better vacuuming ability and because they are much faster at getting the job done. Shiny floors with reflections, mirrors, strange carpet patterns and more all mess with the navigation system in the Saros 10R. It may be better, but to me it feels like the machine is insecure, hesitant and spends too much time futzing around with anything it doesn't like. I want it to move along and get the job done. The Saros 10R also wanders around the house once in a while before picking back up and getting back on task. The new navigation system is very cool, but I find it annoying to use in practice. How big are your thresholds? I have a big one beneath the door from our house into the garage. The Saros 10R can climb over this one and our S8s cannot. Otherwise, we have several other thresholds in our house that are over an inch tall and are all right angles (nothing that looks like a ramp at all). Our S8s may not be graceful at it, but they always get over them. I have one threshold which is closer to an inch and a half. I made a little ramp for it that works very well and looks like it belongs where it is. It looks nice in our home. Our S8s climb this ramp just fine. In case this is useful, if one removes the mops or leaves them in the dock when vacuuming only, a robovac can climb thresholds better than with its mops attached. All the cool stuff in the marketing videos are all done under ideal conditions. Please do not expect anything like what you see in the videos to work that well in the real world. Lastly, a robot vacuum cleaner is simply a vacuum cleaner with some cool features. If it can't vacuum clean very well, it isn't useful to me. For me, the Saros 10R was a very fancy, impressive, expensive mistake. A Qrevo Master for $700 less would have served me much better and left me with a cleaner house. Here is an idea! Get a Qrevo Master and I will trade you my Saros 10R for it! 😁 I hope this helps!

We have pets, people with long hair, and lots of hair in our house. Our charging dock only, base model $350 Roborock S8s with 6000Pa of suction power vacuum cleans much, much, much better than our $1500 Roborock Saros 10R with 18500Pa of suction power.

Lots and lots of hair can be a problem for any robovac. They are very small machines with very small dustbins. Anything with decent vacuuming ability will require more frequent maintenance. A Qrevo Master should do a great job, but there is the possibility it may not. For anything you choose in the end, I suggest you thoroughly vacuum your home with a good upright first, before you start using the robovac. From there, use your robovac often!!! I suggest at least every other day. Check you dustbin often before it gets emptied by the dock. If it is about 2/3rds or more full before the dock empties it, increase the emptying frequency so that the robovac returns to the dock more often for emptying. Also, make sure the suction in the dock is set to maximum when it empties the robovac dustbin. Any robovac with a self emptying dock has an extra tiny dustbin. Sometimes vacuuming huge amounts of hair can be achieved more successfully with something like a $350 base model, charging dock only S8. It's dustbin is much larger. This means you will have to empty it yourself. But the robovac will go much further before this is necessary. I use two basic S8s. Each vacuums half of my house. When they are done, I take them to my garbage can and empty the dustbin. Then I remove the rollers, pull of the ends and remove the wound up hair. I also use two air filters in rotation. The dirty one gets rinsed well under hot tap water and is set aside to dry for at least 48 hours. A clean, thoroughly dry one is put back into the dustbin and you are ready to roll. This should be done with any robovac weekly. It sounds like a lot, but it really isn't. It takes me a few minutes and it is very easy to do. For this effort, I get excellent vacuuming ability and I do not have to spend 90 minutes vacuuming our house. The most important thing for me is that I do not have to revacuum my house with an upright after the robovac is done. I hope this helps!

Vacuum cleaning ability on rugs and carpets is the most important aspect of a robovac for me. I have a Saros 10R. It is a very mediocre vacuum clean no matter what settings are selected. I have other much cheaper robovacs that vacuum clean much better than the Saros 10R. If you need either fancy features, a fully automated dock and run the risk of having animal waste on the floor, I would consider a Saros 10 or 10R. They also excell at fitting under things because they are so thin. If vacuum cleaning rugs and carpets is of prime importance, I would stick with a Qrevo or S8. More specifically, I would stick with any model that has dual rubber rollers. One has to spend two minutes maintaining them after a large cleaning, but they do an excellent job. No amount of fancy, automated features, or a roller that automatically detangles hair, can make up for a mediocre vacuuming job on rugs and carpets. Avoid the split single rollers! Go for the dual rollers! If you only have hard floors without any rugs or carpets, almost and robovac will do a decent job and you have far more options! I hope this helps! I would much rather live without my Saros 10R (US$1500) than one of my S8s (US$350)!!!!!

Yes, laminate is not real wood, and I can mop as often as I want. It is very different than hardwood floors. The ability to follow floor directions came within the last two generations of robovacs. Both my Roborock S8s and my Saros 10R have this setting. Other robovacs from other manufacturers also have this setting. Not all do, but it is no longer uncommon.

There is no best robovac. There are no miracle machines. They all have strengths and significant weaknesses. How well we learn to use their strengths to our advantage and overcome their weaknesses plays an important part in our success with any robovac. But, we all still want and love them! All robovacs, no matter how fancy and expensive, are made with cheap plastic parts. They are not built to be durable at all. They have just enough computing power and memory to get the job done. This applies to all manufacturers. A $1500 robovac only has $150 worth of cheap parts in it, just like our cell phones. They can only do 90-95% of the floor cleaning job. The rest is always up to us. All robovacs with auto detangling rollers and over about 10KPa of suction power vacuum poorly, especially on rugs and carpets, compared to the previous two generations of robovacs. But they do navigate, avoid obstacles, auto detangle hair, and mop very well. What this means is that the more convenient and maintenance free a robovac is, the poorer it vacuums. This is the current reality of the industry. We have collectively selected convenience and laziness over performance, and the market has responded accordingly. It would be very helpful if you describe your needs a bit more. Do you have hard floors, rugs, carpets, tall thresholds, multiple floors, pets and people with long hair, etc. This would be very helpful in making a recommendation that may address your specific needs. Since you specifically mention mopping ability as important to you I will mention that good mopping depends almost entirely on good vacuuming ability. If your floors have been thoroughly vacuumed first, all current mopping systems work well if floors are vacuumed first and then mopped very often. Most current mopping systems do not pick anything up from the floor. They just wipe the surface with a damp pad. Mopping with any robovac is more like adding a shine and finish rather than a deep cleaning. No robovac is good at big messes yet, and they are usually best cleaned up ourselves. One thing of note is that since all mopping sustems perform well and are dependant on good vacuuming, how the mops are cleaned becomes the biggest factor. Spinning mops require a very simple, easy to maintain and low maintenance mechanism that is very effective to clean the mops. Both vibrating pads and roller mop systems require more complicated mechanisms. I don't like the ones for vibrating pads. They require the most maintenance. Roller mops are the way of the future. In a year or two, all robovacs will use roller mops or something similar in my opinion. But current roller mop systems have not convinced me yet. For the time being, I prefer spinning mops. Just keep in mind, that if your priority is vacuuming ability, like mine is, you need to look back at older, simpler robovacs that require a bit more weekly maintenance. It is not all that time consuming or difficult, but it does have to get done. This is the cost of good vacuuming performance, and ultimately leads to good mopping performance. I use a pair of $350, base model, charging dock only Roborock S8s for all of my vacuuming. Each one does half of our house. I do this because they vacuum very, very well, especially on rugs and carpets. I also have a Roborock Saros 10R. It is very impressive in so many ways, and it mops very well. But it is a terrible vacuum cleaner compared to my S8s. I only use it to vacuum our garage floor because I don't care about it as much as the rest of the house. Otherwise, it is a very fancy, very expensive mop. The reasons it vacuums so poorly are described above. I hope this helps!

The key to good mopping is always good vacuuming first. Our cheap S8s do a really great job vacuuming stuff out of the cracks between our laminate floor panels. We get a lot of cat litter stuck in our floor cracks all the time. The simple rubber rollers do a great job getting the cat litter out. Only very rarely do they leave anything behind. Fortunately, once the floors have been thoroughly vacuumed, any mopping system including vibrating pads, spinning mops and roller mops do an excellent job. Appempting to mop any floor with a robovac that has not been thoroughly vacuumed first is pointless and may even lead to scratches in the flooring. Roller mops probably do the best job over all, but if the floors get regularly vacuumed and mopped, and especially if the floors get thoroughly vacuumed before mopping, the practical difference in the results between mopping systems is almost meaningless. Good vacuuming first is far more important than the mopping system itself. I hope this helps!

I have the Roborock 8 and it's vacuuming since two years two times a day and it still works like a charm

I replace regularly the filter and once the brush, but these are maintenance parts

I changed it two times right now

I just replaced them, because I got them for free buying the vacuum ^^ Now I just wash it with water. I don't notice any performance loss. I just do it to take care of it.

About once a month

I have Roborock S7/S8, it's very reliable and worth the price. I've had it for 4 years now. Just need to keep the sensors clean and filters monthly.

Roomba's have pretty subpar mapping & navigation compared to most other brands. We have one (older) Roomba that relies on VSLAM for navigation and one Roborock that uses LiDAR; the difference is night and day. I would avoid iRobot on that alone until they change their tech.

For the price (£250) I am very impressed with mine. Its got LiDAR, a mop, empties itself, etc. Its really neat to watch on the app as it goes about your house and maps it out. Its only gotten stuck twice, and both times were on the same chair that has horizontal bars at floor level that it can get over if it runs at it head on, but can high side itself if approaching from an angle. Definitely does not replace vacuuming as a whole though as it just cant physically get into the corners, and the vacuum itself isnt enough to really suck stuff out of the carpet, more just pick up things on top. I treat it more like a broom than anything else, but having a pet it helps me keep on top of things.