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The differences in behavior you are seeing are common. The Roborock, Dreame and Mova robovacs all have the most recent, most advanced navigation and obstacle avoidance systems. These do make the robovac slower, seem insecure and move more hesitantly than the previous generations of navigation and obstacle avoidance system. They also have significantly better obstacle avoidance than the older systems. I have base model Roborock S8s with the older systems too, like your new Eufy. I much prefer the older systems because they move right along and get the job done. But, they also get stuck more often and get things trapped in their rollers more often. Because of the behavior of the two systems one can easily tell which systems a robovac uses. My Roborock 10Rs have the new system and take a long time. If one picks up the stuff on one's floor prior to cleaning, the older systems work great and get the job done faster. If occasional pet waste and sloppy housekeeping are a factor, the newer navigation and obstacle avoidance systems are a better option. I pick up everything on our floors before cleaning and prefer to get the job done quickly myself! Enjoy your new Eufy! I hope it serves you well!

I use a Robotock S8 but these have been discontinued. They are still available as refubished, but you may get a good one and you may not. Now, on to the puddles. I never vacuum my garage floor when there are puddles. It is just too risky. The floors need to be totally dry. Getting water sucked into a robovac is just not good!!! I use a big squeegee to push all the water out of our garage and then wait for the floors to dry. A lot of robovacs avoid water on the floor, including mine. But, no obstacle avoidance system is perfect. They will only avoid puddles most of the time, but not always. Also, even when winter ice and slush drips off of a car and mostly dries, it will leave damp, muddy stuff behind. This is not a good idea to suck up into any robovac. It will make a mess of i too. So, if you can solve the puddle problem, most robovacs will do a decent job in your garage. But they cannot handle shop debris. They cannot clean up after sawing through a 2x4 and other similar messes. Robovacs are very small machines with small, cheap, plastic parts. They cannot handle what a conventional vacuum cleaner could handle without problems. One has to be cautious. I hope this helps!

I have base model Roborock S8s and a Saros 10R. The flex arm helps a little bit, but the S8 without flex arms do almost as well. The only area that the flex arm can hit that the S8s cannot are in the corners. This means we are taking about two square inches. I suggest you add up the number of corners you have to deal with, multiply by two to get the total square inches. Then divide the cost of the robovac by this calculated square inch number. This will give you the cost per square inch for the improvement a flex arm will offer you. Just keep in mind that you only need to add up the 90 degree corners, not the 270 degree corners. Your existing model will get these just fine already. I think you will find that it will cost you a lot of money for a few square inches of improvement over your current model. Robovac improvements are usually incremental, not substantial. Miniscule improvements are often very expensive. A mid range model will clean just as well as a flagship model. I hope this helps!

For vacuuming on any surface, especially rugs and carpets, get the S8. For anything else try one of the others. There is no single robovac best solution. If you have unlimited money and want the best of everything, get an S8 for vacuuming and another model for mopping. While the S8 does mop very well, the mechanism used in the docks is too complicated and requires too much maintenance. If this maintenance is not done often enough or well enough, the mechanism will clog with gunk and hair. Any robovac with spinning mops will mop just as well and requires only super easy maintenance. I use a pair of cheap S8 base models for all of my vacuuming and a Saros 10R for all of my mopping. Any S8, even the charging dock only S8s, will out vacuum any of the other models you are looking at and any model with auto detangling rollers made by any manufacturer right now. But, hurry! They are being discontinued and then there will be none left that can vacuum really well. I hope this helps!

Pascal suction power numbers are pure marketing hype. There are several factors that are important to good vacuuming: rollers, vacuum pressure, airflow and others. Unfortunately, high vacuum pressure, measured in pascals, means poor airflow in a robovac. Airflow is what carries debris kicked up by the rollers into the dustbin, not vacuum pressure. The only way to create these super high pascal numbers is to restrict airflow. Otherwise, the vacuum pressure will be unsustainable. Vacuum pressure is important, but without good airflow, it doesn't help. 5000-8000Pa of vacuum pressure is more than plenty for good vacuuming if the other factors are in place. The 6000Pa with great rollers in the base model S8s significantly out vacuums the 18,500Pa of our Saros 10R with auto detangling rollers.

Nothing currently on the market vacuums better than an S8, especially on rugs and carpets. If this is of primary importance, I would pick the S8. Everything that could vacuum very well has been discontinued in favor of convenience over cleaning ability. The S8s are the last ones left. However, the mechanism required by the S8's dock to wash the mop pad is too complicated and requires more maintenance than other models with spinning mops. I would call this not ideal. But, it does mop very well. If you can live with mediocre vacuuming ability, try anything with auto detangling rollers like the other model you are comparing. The spinning mops are much easier to maintain and do a great job. Good mopping is entirely dependant on good vacuuming first. Almost any model with spinning mops will do an excellent job. Unless floors have been thoroughly vacuumed first, mopping with any robovac is pointless. High pascal suction numbers are complete nonsense. Our $350, base model, charging dock only S8s with only 6000Pa significantly out vacuum our Saros 10R with 18,500Pa because the S8s do not use auto detangling rollers. The difference between the two on our floors is obvious. Most people are quite pleased with their auto detanglers. Because of this, I continue to use our high milage S8s for all of our vacuuming. The Saros 10R only mops. The maintenance on the dock for the fancy S8s isn't terrible. But it is more than I am willing to do. Thus, the multi robovac solution in our home. If this maintenance is not done, the mop washing system will fill with gunk and clog. You will have to spend about 30 minutes every three to four weeks cleaning it out. With spinning mops, the maintenance takes two minutes every four to six weeks. This has to be compared with the many, many hours of cleaning effort a robovac will save you in the same timeframe. I hope this helps!

I tried a Mova V50 for several weeks before returning it. Here is what I can tell you about it. It is one of the best vacuum cleaners on rugs and carpets currently available. It did struggle with cat litter on a linoleum floor, and I think a Roborock Saros 10R does better on hard floors but much worse on rugs and carpets. A Roborock S8, which is a previous generation robovac, still beat both of them noticably on all flooring surfaces. The Mova V50 did do an excellent job mopping. Otherwise, it is almost indistinguishable from a Roborock Saros 10R. The V50 does have large water tanks, but so does the Saros 10R. I think the dust bags in the docks are identical. I use cheap, base model, outdated and now discontinued, charging dock only Roborock S8s for all of my vacuuming. While I really liked the V50, I did not keep it because my cheap S8s vacuumed much, much better. For the same reason, I only use the Saros 10R to mop. The Mova app is not as refined as the Roborock app. Both get the job done well, but the V50 needs some firmware improvements and the app could use a little work too. I hope this helps!

Doesn't your model have the solid robber vacuum rollers? I think it does. Are you aware that the ends pull off of these rollers? We have several people with long hair on the house. I just pull off the roller ends on our S8s and the hair slides right off. It is a really quick and easy job for me. If your current model has solid rubber rollers, you will provably be disappointed in the vacuuming ability of any model by any manufacturer with auto detangling rollers. They just do not work as well, and their vacuuming ability is significantly worse than anything with solid rubber rollers. I hope this helps!

No, not really. Because there are seven of them, the debris gets distributed across seven dustbins. They only need to get emptied about once per week. Five of them are base model, charging dock only Roborock S8s. I have to empty these dustbins myself and check the rollers each week. This takes about two minutes per robovac. Two of them are Roborock Saros 10Rs. These have fully automated docks, so I have to spend less than ten minutes per month of eack of them. Everything is pretty quick and easy to do compared to all the cleaning I would have to do if I did it all myself. I hope this link works. I am not sure if it will. Let me know if it does not and I will try again. Thank you! https://photos.app.goo.gl/mb4wMmDfeoDV4hHC9 Enjoy!

Most of the time it is one robovac per room. But this turns out to be inefficient. The most important factor is square feet or meters per robovac and collision avoidance and traffic control. This needs to be carefully equalized and managed so that no robovac sits idle for more than about one ninute. My automations create a queue of rooms and zones. These get assigned to an a robovac based on availability. As soon as a robovac becomes idle, it is assigned another room or zone. This way, if one or more fail, the others will fill in the gaps. If something happens and a robovac changes course from its normal path, it completely throws off the timing of everything that comes afterwards. This means timing cannot be trusted. Collisions and traffic jams cause similar problems. No robovac is programmed to avoid another robovac. When they meet, it can take a long time for them to figure out how to get around each other. The various status sensors and entities also do not update quickly. Sometimes the current room updates instantly when a robovac enters a room. Sometimes it can take five minutes. If a room is small enough, the current room sensor may never update before the robovac is done with it. This makes these sensors difficult to use also. These entities are useful, but really hard to count on. Everything passes through the long hallway through our house. I use a pair of long range time of flight sensors with ESP32s as robovac detectors so I know when a robovac enters and exits out hallway. This made a big improvement in traffic control. I am currently trying to implement a BLE beacon proximity and location system using Espresence. This will help me further refine my traffic flow and optimize cleaning time. It almost works, but not quite yet. Since I only use my five S8s to vacuum, their onboard water tanks have become cargo space for a 18500 battery and Esp32c3 BLE beacon that automatically wakes when a vibration sensor is actived, and it puts the Esp32c3 back to sleep when the sensor is inactive. Please keep in mind that everything I do is tailorsed specifically to our home. It may not be effective in other settings. I have never attempted to adapt my setup to another home or setting. I hope this answers your question. I am not sure it does. Get some cheap, refurbished models and give it a try. I highly recommend Roborock S8s. They are excellent vacuum cleaners and cooperate well with the Roborock integration for Home Assistant. The S8+ will give you a self emptying dock. I do not use my S8s to mop. Give it a try! It is fun! You cannot buy any robovac from any manufacturer that has modern auto detangling rollers that vacuums rugs and carpets as well as an S8!

I also have a pair of 10Rs. They are my moppers because my cheap, refurbished S8s vacuum much, much better. But, otherwise, the Saros models are pretty impressive! An S8 for vacuuming and a Saros model for mopping is the perfect combo in my opinion. I really wish Roborock would make a model that combines the strengths of an S8 for vacuuming and a 10R for everything else. The old solid rubber rollers and 6000Pa of vacuum pressure perform really well, but no longer sell robovacs. All of the auto detangling rollers from all manufacturers are relatively mediocre for vacuuming in comparison. This is hard to believe if one has not seen it first hand. Your Saros 10 should integrate into HA really well! My 10Rs do. Good luck!

Get an S8. Nothing currently on the market vacuums anywhere near as well. The S8s are excellent except for the mop cleaning mechanism that requires too much maintenance. You will be extremely pleased with the results if you use the higher vacuum suction settings! They excel especially on rugs and carpets!!! Believe it or not, the solid rubber rollers perform much better than anything with bristols. And the robber rollers on an S8 are significantly better than the ones on your Roomba. I have a Saros 10R that I only use for mopping because my S8s perform so much better for vacuuming!!! I hope this helps!

The issues are completely random. They are based on the fact that modles and manufacturers all use parts from the same pool of third party manufacturers and there does not appear to be any real functional quality control in the entire industry. This is handled through warranty claims. I already listed the most functional, reliable manufacturers. You just have to pick the model in the price range you like with the features you want. If it works well, you are all set. If it does not, you will have to deal with the frustrating customer service process that we all dislike and get it fixed or replaced under warranty. If you want a robovac, this is how it is. Things usually work out well. Personally, right now, since models with good vacuuming ability are the hardest to find, especially on rugs and carpets, I would pick a Roborock S8 or S8+ since you are looking for an inexpensive model. Mopping generally works well, and navigation and obstacle avoidance do too for most models from any manufacturer. Finding good vacuuming performance is the real challenge, in my opinion. You probably won't like the following. The Roborock S8s have been discontinued and are only available as like new or refurbished. These are almost all customer returns. This means you may get a good one or you may not. If you get a bad one, you just have to return it and order a replacement. This really isn't a bad solution and it has worked well for me. You get a great machine for cheap! Get them from Amazon so returns are easy. This will get you an excellent robovac at a very affordable price that does not skimp on the features one really needs for clean floors but leaves out all the fancy expensive stuff that does not help get floors any cleaner. I have five Roborock S8s. They vacuum like beasts on their higher suction settings. I bought four of my five as like new/refurbished. Two worked great right away and still do. Two needed to be sent back and I had to order replacements. All five work great now and have for quite some time. I use them daily. Robovacs can be a pain in the neck to deal with, but ultimately, they are very worthwhile! I use seven of them, all Roborocks, to clean our house as a swarm. My entire house and garage gets vacuumed in 21 minutes by the S8s. Then, two others mop the hard floors in another 24 minutes. This works great for me! Good luck with whatever model you choose! May it serve you well!

I have seven of them. I have five S8s and two 10Rs. Most of the S8s were purchased for cheap as refurbished units. Our entire single story, 1367 square foot house and garage get vacuumed on the Max setting in 21 minutes by the S8s. Mopping takes another 24 minutes with the 10Rs. Total time 46 minutes! I never have to wait for a battery to recharge halfway through the job! Yes! These are absolutely game changers! Our house has a lot going on in it all day long so I never have any quiet time to clean. It has to get done in a hurry and now it certainly does! I understand your sentiment completely! Thanks for posting!!!

If you want the best, you need two different robovacs - one for vacuuming and one for mopping. Vacuuming ability declined significantly in 2025 with the advent of auto detangling rollers and astronomical suction power. Auto detangling rollers auto detangle hair very well, but they do not kick up dirt, dust, debris and hair as well as the previous generations of robovacs. These have all been discontinued and are only available as refurbished. For excellent vacuuming ability, I would still select a refurbished model over anything new since the beginning of 2025. I would not want to use one of these older models for mopping. They require too much maintenance. For mopping, I would select any midrange model with the features you like with extending and lifting side brush and rear mop for better edge cleaning. Nothing fancy is required and most models do a good job as long as floors have been thoroughly vacuumed first. Good mopping is entirely dependant on good vacuuming first!!! I use Roborock S8s for all of my vacuuming because they perform so well. These require two minutes of weekly maintenance. I have to remove the rollers, pull off their ends and remove the hair that collects around them. This is a very quick and easy task. In exchange, I get excellent vacuuming ability that anything newer cannot rival, especially on rugs and carpets. S8s also have good navigation and decent obstacle avoidance. For mopping, I use Roborock 10Rs. They do a great job, but a much cheaper model will do just as well. No robovac is anywhere near perfect. No robovac can do everything. They are cheaply made, plastic devices that are not built to be durable no matter how much they cost. They have a high failure rate, even right out of the box. Expectations must be kept in check or you will be disappointed with anything you choose. How you use their strengths to your advantage and overcome their weaknesses will play a significant role in your success with any model. Nevertheless, I would not want to do without mine anymore. They have changed my life and our floors have never been cleaner. I run seven of them four times per week - vacuuming first and then mopping. Robovacs are maintenance machines, not deep cleaners. They have to be run often for good results. Three times per week vacuuming and then mopping is a minimum. If you have pets and people with long hair, more frequent cleaning may be required or you may overload your robovac dustbin and dock with hair. No robovac will clean really dirty floors well. However, if you start them on reasonably clean floors, and run them often, a robovac will keep your floors nice and clean. No robovac is well suited for a big mess. I hope this helps! Good luck!

It isn't pretty to watch, and it takes a little while and several attempts, but my now discontinued, previous generation, cheap, base model Roborock S8s can handle this eventually, every time. I have a much worse threshold that they get over every single day. I am crazy and use 6 robovacs. Five of them have to climb my threshold every day which is higher and more complicated than yours. This is never a problem. There are, however, models specifically made to climb. If your first choice can't handle this threshold, return it and get a climbing model. I hope this helps!

Here is the problem with replacing your S8. It is the last robovac that can vacuum really, really well when set to Max suction (not Max+), especially on rugs and carpets. Anything you will get to replace it with from any manufacturer with auto detangling rollers will not vacuum nearly as well. Auto detangling rollers are great at auto detangling hair, but they do not perform as well as the two solid rubber rollers in your S8 for vacuuming. This difference is clearly visible on our floors. This essentially leaves you with a choice. Less maintenance but also noticably less vacuuming ability or more maintenance and excellent vacuuming ability. I have tried to upgrade our S8s unsuccessfully for the last six months. I have tried eight different high end, $1000+ models from several different manufacturers. All of them left me disappointed with their vacuuming ability compared to our S8s. However, the mopping with spinning mops was a very nice improvement. Our S8s are the base models without the automated dock that you have. Our's only have charging docks. So I have even more maintenance than you do. I doubled down with them and got several more cheap, refurbished ones to share the load. The good news is that I can get my entire house vacuumed in 21 minutes without ever having to wait for a battery to recharge halfway through the job. The bad news is that I have more maintenance to perform. However, I no longer have to do this maintenance every time they run. I can now do it every third time they run. After everything I have tried, I am sticking with our S8s for all of my vacuuming because I have high standards. I did buy a Roborock Saros 10R that I kept too long so I could no longer return it. This was a big mistake. The only thing I use it for is to mop, and it does a very good job of this. I hope this helps!

You should not have replaced the vacuum roller for vacuuming performance. The S7s do a great job with hair on rugs and carpets with the factory solid rubber rollers. I think this was a mistake. Otherwise, as an owner of two 10Rs, I completely agree with you. It mops well but is a mediocre vacuum cleaner at best. This is why I do all of my vacuuming with S8s. Thanks for your thoughts! I enjoyed reading your post very much!

This will most probably be a problem with any robovac mopping system. There have already been lots of similar complaints from people with models that have spinning mops. Grout is porous. I think the only solution may be sealing the grout so it does not absorb the dirty mop water. I am sorry to say that tile grout has been an issue since robovacs were invented. An S8 set to the Max vacuum suction setting is a beast! No newer model from any manufacturer will vacuum anywhere near as well as what you have now, especially on rugs and carpets. Newer models have many nice features, but vacuuming ability has declined noticably in the latest generation of robovacs across the industry as we consumers selected convenience and automation over cleaning ability. About the best thing you can do for your grout issue is to mop the old fashioned way and scrub out the grout occasionally. Sealing your grout is probably a big job, but it would probably help! I wish I had better news for you!

Pascal vacuum pressure does not contribute to good vacuuming nearly as much as marketing hype suggests. The dual solid rubber rollers of the S8s agitate rugs and carpets much better than auto detangling rollers do. It also turns out that 6000Pa of vacuum pressure is plenty for good vacuuming. Airflow counts too. 20KPa just does not add anything even though it generates high sales numbers. The S8s move much more air than more modern models and this is what carries debris kicked up by the rollers into the dustbin. Our cheap S8s vacuum much, much better than our Saros 10Rs do. That is why I only use the two Saros 10Rs to mop. This is just one example of a $200 refurbished robovac significantly outshining a $1000 flagship. I also prefer the navigation of the S8s. They are simply much faster at their job. The Saros 10Rs move much more slowly and spend a large amount of time thinking about whether or not something is an obstacle. The Saros 10Rs seem insecure and unsure of themselves compared to our S8s. But the 10R will avoid obstacles more reliably if still imperfectly. I can easily live without our 10Rs. Loosing one of our S8s would be tragic!

I doubt very much that it can vacuum anywhere near as well as your S8 set the Max setting on rugs and carpets. I have a 10R and use it for mopping, but I still use my S8s for all of my vacuuming because they do so much better. I do hope I am wrong! I hope you love your new robovac! May it serve you well!!!

The S8s do much better due to better airflow and better vacuum rollers. Modern mechanisms for spinning mops and roller mops take up lots of room inside of a small robovac. Because of this, dustbins became tiny compared to the days of vacuum only models and models with vibrating mops. Small dustbins significantly contributed to poorer airflow. Pascal vacuum pressure sucks stuff out of rugs and carpets, but airflow moves this debris into the dustbin. We now have astronomical vacuum pressure with poor airflow in every make and model of robovac across the entire industry. Since spinning mops came out, vacuuming ability has declined significantly across the industry. The mopping is great. The vacuuming ability on rugs and carpets is terrible. Anything can vacuum hard floors decently. Solid rubber rollers also kick up debris much more efficiently than auto detangling rollers, but the auto detanglets sure need less maintenance! Every new feature that gets packed into a tiny robovac means older, more critical features suffer because room must be made for the new stuff inside a small device with limited space. Larger robovacs could handle everything much better, but no one wants one. I hope this helps!

I have two 10Rs and have only ever tried them with mop detached for vacuuming. My S8s out perform them for vacuuming on any surface by far. Even when the 10Rs are set to 2x and Max+, a single pass on Max by an S8 dies much better. However, the combination is just about perfect. The S8s need a tiny bit of maintenance on their rollers, but this is very quick and easy. They vacuum like beasts compared to the 10Rs. When the S8s are done, the 10Rs do all the mopping. I think this combo is the best Roborock has to offer for floor cleaning. I use five S8s and two 10Rs to speed clean our house. They are all run through a series of Home Assistant automations, so all I have to do is tell Alexa to clean the house. This kicks in everything in Home Assistant. Our house and garage (1983 square feet) get vacuumed in 36 minutes and then mopped in about 46 additional minutes. I never have to wait for any battery to recharge halfway through the job. 😁

There are no longer good robovacs for rugs and carpets. There are only mediocre robovacs for rugs and carpets. Modern mopping systems take up a lot of room inside a robovac. This made dustbins tiny and significantly reduced airflow. Pascal vacuum pressure is important, but the other half of the equation is airflow. No vacuum cleaner can vacuum well with poor airflow. This has impacted the entire industry, not just Roborock. Modern auto detangling rollers are great at auto detangling hair. But compared to the previous generation of solid rubber rollers, auto detangling rollers also do not work as well. If a robovac has a modern mopping system, it cannot vacuum rugs and carpets all that well. All models without modern mopping systems have been discontinued across the industry. Auto detangling rollers require no or little maintenance, but also do not vacuum as well. We are left to choose from models that do well on hard floors and mop well, but cannot do a proper job on rugs and carpets. Deep carpets are often impossible with many models. Sorry for the bad news. I am very disappointed in the entire robovac industry because of these problems and would not want to be in the market for a robovac right now. I hope things improve! I do not think they can until we break out vacuuming and mopping into to two different devices. Good luck!

I got another robot in March. I am still using the same five S8s and two 10Rs, and I added a Mammotion Luba 3 robot mower for our lawn. Just like the robovacs, the mower is not perfect either. But, I seem to be obsessed with these things. It is a bit of a sickness. My wife thinks I need to join Robots Anonymous as soon as possible. I did something similar with the mower as with the robovacs. Rather than mowing in a swarm of robots, I have the mower tied into a small weather station and our automated sprinkler system. I already water based on moisture sensors rather than a schedule. Now, when it hasn't rained and the lawn is dry enough to mow, the mower starts automatically. Our garden gate even opens and closes automatically with the mower automation so the mower can cut our front lawn. If weather prohibits mowing, it trys again with the same criteria the next day. On average, our lawn gets mowed three times per week. This is necessary with a robot mower. They cannot handle weekly mowing or lawns that are too deep. Once the mower is done, a software flag gets set that the yard is clear to water if necessary. My system works pretty well, but it will take a few more weeks to get it all just right. This has been a fun project that has

Are you a Home Assistant fan as well or do you use another home automation system? Maybe we could learn from each other!? I used to use Smartthings and Alexa, but a year ago I switched to home assistant almost entirely. I still use Alexa as a voice command front end. Since then, I have built all sorts of stuff. Home Assistant makes everything I did before seem primitive. I build most of my own smart devices so they function exactly how I want them to using EspHome. A few months ago, we moved into a new home. I installed Zigbee Smart Wings blinds throughout our house. Our setup is not as fully developed and sophisticated as yours quite yet, but I am still building infrastructure for all of it. I recently completed an array of multi sensors and installed them throughout our house. Not only are they very sophisticated air quality monitors and light sensors, they do all sorts of other stuff as well. This allowed me to combine all sorts of functions into a single box with a single power cord. What you have built and already have working is one of my upcoming projects. Do you have any tips? The one piece I already have working is a light sensor near my office window. This is just a simple Esp32c6 with a BH1750 light sensor aimed at my window. When it gets too bight, the blinds adjust automatically. Since we often have days with rapid alternation between clouds and clear skies, I also added other conditions so the blinds are not constantly adjusting themselves. This can be annoying! This stuff is addictive! Some of my favorite automations are the completely unnecessary ones. On a whim, I bought a bunch of cheap battery powered LED candles, glued them together in sets of three, five and seven, wired them together and made them smart. Now I can tell Alexa to turn on the ambiance and all of these fake candle sets turn on throughout our house. Useful? No. Fun? Yes! This is one of the very few things my wife actually likes. The also serve as Bluetooth proxies for our air purifiers. Good luck with your blinds. With a bit of experimenting, geting your blinds to react to a light sensor is relatively quick and easy. Getting them not to over react is not much more difficult. You will love the results when you get the details worked out!

I have the non-plumbed version of the S8 and have loved it. So much better than previous robovacs I've owned.

My house is almost 4k sq ft and I’ve never mopped myself. I have one for each floor. Thank you little robot vacuums. They are the employees of the month year round. There is something about waking up to a glistening floor and perfect vacuum lines in the carpet. Roborock has too many models but it was nice because I could buy a version for my exact needs, so upstairs is a stronger vacuum with the vibrating mopping pad, while downstairs is all wood so that one has less vacuum power but oscillating scrub mop pads. And it’s all the same brand, so a single app to control both and many interchangeable parts.

I stay away from dreame, had a similar experience as you & had four replacements all couldn’t hold a candle to my ecovacs X11. I have two dogs that frequently go in/out, one of them being a malamute so hair is a constant in our house. We have multiple levels & I keep a robot on each level, currently all of which are X11’s (one being the newest version with the sprayers in the front). I feel like such a product shill, but it’s by far the best robot vacuum I’ve owned for my use case. I used to exclusively stick with Roborock & would buy their flagship S series every year, but when I saw the X11 drop without a bag but still retain the features I was wanting I got it to try. Once you turn off the AI assist features the robot does a phenomal job cleaning, I’d say the Roborock S8 did a slightly better job at the corners, but it’s good enough to where I just lightly go over everything once every week or two with my own mop & it looks great. My only gripe about it is that you can’t tell it to just mop a room, it has to at least vacuum at its quietest setting while mopping (you can have it mop a small zone like for a spill, but that’s if). Not a huge gripe because it’s fairly quiet & helps keep the mop clean. I like how it has two seperate dosing systems for cleaning product & a bagless design for the dirt (still on my original filter for the base station, looks clean as well over a year old, switched out filters to see if it needed it & I just wasn’t noticing but it didn’t performing any better). Biggest thing for me (other than the bagless design) is how easy it is to clean. The base station has a tray you pull out where the mop gets cleaned, & the robot is fairly simple as well. My house would be called a very dirty house, & I just probably spend 5 minutes a week cleaning it (changing out the filters & mop on the robot & cleaning the mop tray). I used to go through a ton of bags every month, now I just buy a maintenance kit from Amazon for $10 each month where it comes with the filters, roller mops, & other parts for it. You don’t have to do this, but I run my robot two to three times a day so I just do it this way so I can ignore all the different maintenance reminders in the app (they’re staggered, ie 10 hours for this part 30 for this one). It’s GaN charging is also very nice, each robot cleans around 3,000 sq ft & I don’t think I’ve ever seen them under 60%. When it’s charging it actually has a counter where you can see the decimal points of the charging status & see it quickly charge in real time. I saw you mention clogs, the only one of mine that has clogged has been the one on the main level which is subjected to the most hair. Malamute hair is particularly clumpy so I fully expected it to happen. To date it’s only happened twice (not the base station but the robot itself). The only other brand I’d recommend is narwal, I was very happy with their product & still have mine but switched it out for the X11 simply because of the bagless feature.

Having had a few finally settled on a Roborock S8 it seems to work better than the other we’ve had.