Roborock - S8+

I've had my S8+ (basestation with just dustbin, no water tank) for almost 2 years. And I'm very happy. It cleans twice a week and still going strong. I paid about €1000. I bet the MaxV is even better! Only thing I can complain about is the battery have deteriorated a bit tho, so it struggles with 2h cleaning sessions at max power. Edit: I do regular maintenance and exchange parts as needed. And I regularly clean the robo and filter as well.

Thats awesome news for me owning a S8+ haha. Another question I have is how the edge kicked down the Curv to 5th spot in rankings, isn't it identical robot and spec wise just different design of the dock? Btw I love your videos!

I have Roborock S8 and I love it

It's definitely an upgrade to the standard dragging a wet cloth. Flagship Saros 10 is using vibrarise too but its a bit more updated and has more vibration and downward pressure. Not sure how big of a difference in terms of performance it is compared to the S8. If you can find S8 for a good price then I think you wont be disappointed I also think when choosing between rotating and Vibration mops its about preference and what type of floor you have. The rotating mops are using more water I believe and could have a tendency to leave wet streaks on floors

Unfortunately what you want is a niche product… vacuum/mop combos are what is in right now and beyond that, Roborock isn’t the best at that level obstacle avoidance either. With all that said, take the time to research the type of OA you’re looking for. Like full camera (best - but comes with privacy concerns if you care), there are other types too but they typically are worst. With all that said, I own an s8+ (not max v) and have found it to be pretty solid and reasonable priced. It has a mop feature but it’s not a “dual spinning”, etc… but still does an okay job and I’m okay with that.

Also have an s8 with vibrarise. I’ve read that the super “in” dual rotating mops aren’t proven to be better than vibrarise. What I will say is that I think mops on robot vacuums are still a “maintainer/extender” feature than a true mop up stains type of feature. If you manually mop, the s8 will make it so you have to do it less often. It’s not a replacement for that first initial manual mop. Besides that, I’ve enjoyed the s8 as it was an upgrade from my original s4. Obstacle avoidance is pretty good, although, I’m just used to tidying up before running it now a days.

I have a 9 month old so everything you said applies to me… I will say I haven’t checked on the ramp thing but the s8+ I bought last year works very well. It goes over the mats. The reason I bought it was because I wanted better than obstacle avoidance. I was coming from an S4 (not max) which had none. This does a good job, is self empty and does mop too. The mop is a vibrating mop bit the spin type of a revo. This doesn’t bother me as robot mopping still isn’t great no matter what you get, until you’re shelling out $1500+. Even then, I don’t think mopping tech has “matured yet”. I ultimately would just recommend a robot vacuum that has good obstacle avoidance as you just don’t want it to get stuck places since you’re spending time with your kiddo and not worrying about cleaning/picking up as much

If you want a vacuum only robot, I’d look at the AEG RX9-2-4ANM https://www.robocleaners.com/en/aeg-rx9-2-4anm.html (Not an affiliate link). This robot won't ao very well tor dealing with hair and fur on the brush roller but this is the best robot vacuum if you're only considering vacuuming performance (along with the Dyson VisNav which is considerably more expensive but the thicker roller means it’s less prone to tangles). If you want an autoempty station, I’d look at the roborock S8+, Roborock Q5/Q8 Max+, or the eufy E20. If you want a combo, I'd recommend the Dreame L10S Ultra Gen 2 (599), Xiaomi X20 Max (539), the Xiaomi X20 Pro (439), the Xiaomi X10+ (399) as these robots are better suited for larger homes (<60-100sqm) as it has an internal water tank so it won't need to constantly go back to the base station to clean the mops. The Xiaomi X20+ lacks an onboard water tank and must rewet the mops and can become dry when mopping before it resets it. This is generally less water efficient which is why I recommend the previous models. I’d recommend the Xiaomi X20+ for homes smaller than 50-60sqm. All of these robots are compatible with the dreame anti-tangle TriCut brush which works great with my long haired corgi’s fur and long hair in my home.

Suction power is about as unhelpful as Air Watts because bigger ≠ better. Brush agitation, sealing at the floor, airflow, and the airflow design are just as important aspects. For mostly carpet, get something like the roborock S8.

My combination is a Botslap S8 plus (I don't use the mopping function) in combination with a Miele Triflex HX1. My dog's fur is similar to your dog's(just white), the Botslap alone isn't able to handle the dog hair, but in combination with the HX1, it's perfect.

I just got the S8 maxv ultra. Pumped to see how it does vs the s8+ which I moved to the basement. Gonna use the ultra on the main floor

I have the regular s8+ and it works pretty well granted I only use it upstairs on carpet with minimal mopping(once a week) just in the bathrooms and I always run it on turbo or max modes. It’s not the crème of the crop but it suits my needs

I've been using the Roborock S8+ for a few months now, and it's really effective at cleaning pet hair (and my own hair😂). It seems to have blades inside that shred the hair. To be honest, my cat sheds a lot, and it's been a lifesaver.

If you value mopping, I'd recommend a robot that doesn't have a stationary pad. From your list, that would be the two Roborocks and the Xiaomi. The Q10 S5 is new, and there isn't a lot out there in terms of reviews yet, but Roborock as a brand is fairly trustworthy. The S8 is well-known, and a more feature-rich version was the Roborock flagship for some time, so this is a safer bet. I don't know much about the Xiaomi, but it has its fans.

Of these, the worst mopping will be the Q5 and Q8 robots, which just have stationary pads attached to the back. The S8 also has a pad attached to the back, but includes a scrubbing motion via a plate that vibrates at a high speed. It's better than the Q5 and Q8. The best mopping will be on the Qrevo and Eufy X10. They have spinning mop pads, a dock which refills the water tank on the robot from its own water tank, and also cleans the pads automatically and stores the dirty water in another tank on the dock. Of the last two, each has its strengths and weaknesses. The X10 will be better at obstacle avoidance. The Qrevo is a Roborock, which has a better reputation for quality and reliability than the Eufy, and is also rated a little better than the Eufy at a lot of things: vacuuming performance, mopping performance, etc. It also can swing out one of its mop pads for better edge and corner cleaning, something the Eufy can't do. In some cases, obstacle avoidance is really critical, in which case I'd recommend the Eufy. Otherwise, the Qrevo is likely your best bet.

In that regard, the Mova is hard to argue with when it's on sale. If you can wait for the next sale, it might be a good buy. Be prepared for a round with Mova support, as the P10 has had issues with broken front wheels, in some cases broken in the box. Mova seems to have been good about fixing the issue, but you can't just pop a replacement wheel in, so you'll have to send it to them for that repair. As an alternative to consider, take a look at the Roborock S8+. It uses a vibrating pad mop, and you have to wash it yourself with the Plus model, which is a real downgrade. But if you're not as keen on mopping, it should deliver good value on the obstacle avoidance front, with good vacuuming performance. Plus, as a Roborock, it's going to have a good app, and will be the most likely to be trouble-free and durable.

I'm not sure how it compares to the P10. Vacuum Wars testing results are mixed; practical performance metrics like the deep clean test seem on par, but some of the other tests favor the P10. I think this might be an example of a vendor throwing Pascals at the problem; the P10 has double the advertised suction, but I suspect the S8 has a better-designed vacuum pathway. It's fairly common to see ridiculous raw suction upgrades not translate to actual better vacuuming performance with the latest models. A number of people go so far as to recommend the S7 over the S8 for vacuuming for this reason, except that you can't get the S7 new anymore. One thing is for sure: both the S8 and P10 will be better than the Q5 Max+ at vacuuming.

I don't know of anything like that. Obstacle avoidance is an expensive feature, and the people paying for the best obstacle avoidance also want auto-empty, good mopping, and mop washing/drying, all of which imply a tall dock. The best you're probably going to find will be the Roborock S8. It has what they call "Reactive 3D" obstacle avoidance, which is similar to their "Reactive AI" system, but with no front-facing camera. A newer version of Reactive AI ships on some of their top robots, including the just-released Saros 10. This newer version is not as good as the system that ships on the Saros 10R, Saros Z70, and Qrevo Slim, and is the worst among the current flagship robots. But the S8's dock is the traditional charging-only dock, so it should fit in your box, and it will likely be the best obstacle avoidance you can get for a robot with a short dock.

There are a number of robots that are vacuum-only (or have a minimal mopping system) and can self-empty. Obstacle avoidance is going to be the difficult feature to cover in this price range. Worse, most of the robots with obstacle avoidance also have more sophisticated mopping, which adds cost. It might be a stretch for your budget, but if you can swing it, the Roborock S8+ looks like a good option otherwise. It has self-emptying and pretty good obstacle avoidance. A number of people really like its vacuuming performance, especially in comparison to some more modern robots. If not, then the best choice looks to be the Ecovacs T20, which is a little crazy. It's actually a pretty high-end robot: spinning-pad mops, hot water mop washing, and pretty good obstacle avoidance. Beware, though; there are reports of app instability and navigation issues (which is pretty common with Ecovacs products generally). If you give up on obstacle avoidance, there are a number of good options from a number of vendors. Some models to consider would be the Roborock Q7 M5+, the Eufy L60 SES, or the Eufy C10.

S8+ is supposed to be quite good, no? Seems they are selling for half that!