Roborock - Saros 10

It's definitely an upgrade to the standard dragging a wet cloth. Flagship Saros 10 is using vibrarise too but its a bit more updated and has more vibration and downward pressure. Not sure how big of a difference in terms of performance it is compared to the S8. If you can find S8 for a good price then I think you wont be disappointed I also think when choosing between rotating and Vibration mops its about preference and what type of floor you have. The rotating mops are using more water I believe and could have a tendency to leave wet streaks on floors

I just tested and reviewed this one and gave it 3 out of 5 Stars. I was very unimpressed. Although I'm not done with my testing of the z70, it is not ready for prime time. The x50 was good, And I think that would be a fine purchase. I also highly recommend the saros 10r and 10. But... I was alone out of the water with the 3i S10 and no one talks about it.

I'm surprised how much I actually enjoy these threads. So I'm going to kill two of yours and reintroduce one. I don't think those are the right q revos to look at... If anything I'd say the max V. But I can make it easy because if you can afford the robots that you're talking about I think it comes down to four models. The s8 maxv ultra which shakes out to be the best of the S8 line. The curv, which is also excellent, but slightly different from the s8. Saros 10 Saros 10r Do you have thresholds? If so, get the 10. Do you have a lot of obstacles on your floor? Like a fan and lamps and furniture and other crap small spaces that the robot needs to go into? If so, get a 10r, even if you have thresholds. You don't have thresholds or small spaces, I would consider the S8 or curv, because they're excellent, and dramatically cheaper. And excepting the issue with thresholds, I'm not highly sold that the Saros are $700 better. And the best part is, there is no wrong answer. The main differentiator is the shape of the tower and that the curv has twin spinning mops and the s8 has a vibrating mop pad. Because you have ceramic tile, and I do too, that means you have grime. For that reason I recommend the s8. I believe the vibrating pad does better on grind

Hi. I review robots for a living. That store link was super helpful. My advice is simple: get a roborock. I think the S8 Maxv Ultra is a fantastic model, around $1000. The Saros 10/10R are also there, and also great. Personally, i prefer a mop pad, so I'd say the 10, not the 10R. The prices are close enough that I'd say the Saros might be worth these few $$. I don't enjoy either model you named...the Mova has cheap hardware, and the X9 was incredibly Meh in performance.

20%Notes: this is a placeholder so you can bookmark. I'll begin filling this in as prices come off embargo. For a list of every single prime day deal, [go here](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1ljl8wd/prime_day_deals/). These are not the cheapest robots in each band, these are my recommendations based on the final Prime Day prices. Some prices do not fall off embargo until 7/8 (Prime Day) so you may not see them until then. I will be incredibly busy during Prime Week, so may not be able to answer comments. I haven't tested every vacuum on the market, but I've tested a lot of them. Not offended if you have a differing opinion and voice that, my opinions are based on real world testing in my home, which I write about on Lifehacker. The links below will be affiliate links, you don't have to use them, but it is appreciated. # Best vacuum under $100 Controversial opinion, but I don't believe there is a best under $100. Infact, robots worth the investment under $700 are rare, as I explain in [this post.](https://www.whatrobotvacuumshouldiget.com/2025/06/20/are-budget-robot-vacuums-worth-buying/) So these robots should be viewed as tech toys you're playing around with, rather than cleaning tools that will make your life easier. Buy whatever strikes your fancy, it's unlikely to be useful as a robovac, but might be a worthy cat toy. # Best vacuum under $300 People just don't talk about the Switchbots enough in here, and I wish I knew why. Aside from having a kick ass brand identity (chonky robots that bridge a technology gap for people), they are affordable and work better than most tech products out there. I'm a huge fan of their smart home sensors and the SwitchBot button. When I got the [K10+](https://lifehacker.com/tech/switchbot-k10-plus-robot-vacuum-review) to test about 18 months ago, I was just tickled. First, it's tiny. It's like an M&M roaming your floor. At 8 inches, it cuts a tight radius around your chair legs, and can get into tiny spaces. There's no advanced tech on here, it just does a bangup job vacuuming, and then returning to its humbly small self emptying dock. Sure, there is a "mop", kinda sorta... but its just a swiffer situation, and it sucks. Ignore it (easy to do). This is a vacuum, and can more confidently manage carpet (under your bed, too!) better than most I've tried. Sure, you'll have to unclog it occasionally, but that's what you get at this price. The pro took the suction from 2500Pa to 3000Pa, which doesn't seem like much, but I can go on for hours on a nerdy rant about how much suction doesn't really matter. Whichever you get, this is the bot to beat at this price. Sale is effective 7/8. |SwitchBot Mini Robot Vacuum K10+ Pro|$459.99|299.99|35%|[https://amzn.to/4lkV06z](https://amzn.to/4lkV06z)| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |SwitchBot Mini Robot Vacuum K10+|$499.99|175.99|65%|[https://amzn.to/4eCVAdy](https://amzn.to/4eCVAdy)| # Best vacuum under $500 Embargo'd til 7/7 # Best vacuum under $700 Embargo'd til 7/7 # Best vacuum under $1000 Embargo'd til 7/7 # Best vacuum under $1200 People try to send me vacuums all the time, and because there are a giant wall of boxes in my house of robots to be tested, giving me anxiety, I need a reason to say yes. The only interesting nugget about the 3i when I agreed to test it was that it promised to never need a water refill. i'd just finished testing the narwal Freo Z, which has to be topped up a few times a day and an autonomous robot sounded fantastic. You shouldn't like the 3i. It looks like an exhibit in a kids science museum. It weighs like 50lbs, and there is nothing notable about the robot itself. it looks like a generic robovac. I was so blown away by the performance, I haven't shut up about it since. In the history of my testing, i have kept 3 robovacs, and this is one of them. I just place new robots I'm testing in front of it, because I'm not moving that Gdamn tower for anything, it lives there now. Theres the design: these 2 forward sweeps rotate inward, and have constant downward pressure on the floor. They're huge, and very effective. The roller doesn't get clogged. Let me repeat. I let it vacuum up dog toy floof. Mulch. Receipts. NOTHING deterred this robot. And the mop was very effective, too. Was it the best mop I've tested? No. But it ranks up there. And the water cleaning actually works, I know because for a week, we had it mop up anything we could think of. Vinegar. Black dye water. Maple syrup. Tomato juice. And not only was the resulting clean water tank crystal clear, I used PH strips to test it, and it remained stable. It just metabolized anything we ran it over. It's been a few months and I've never had to refill the water, not once. It's finally an autonomous robot, and for that, it'd be worth it at $1899. But for $1139, I don't need to think about whether its better to spend less on a high end Roborock, the 3i is cheaper. |3i S10 Ultra|$1899.99|$1139.99 w code: S10USAVE5|40%|[https://amzn.to/3GsRZlm](https://amzn.to/3GsRZlm)| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| # Best vacuum if you have no budget Embargo'd til 7/7 # Best vacuum if you have thresholds The good news, since many of you are trying to decide between the Saros 10/10r and the Dreame X50 Ultra, is that I can make it easy. Get the Dreame X50. You won't like the reason I recommend it, though. It's simple: the Roborock Saros 10 is not, for reasons I don't get, on Prime Day special, only the 10R is. While the 10 and 10r are [supposed](https://lifehacker.com/tech/roborock-saros-10-vs-saros-10r-robot-vacuum-comparison) to have very similar builds with a lifting chassis, they don't act like it. The 10 is a better robot than the X50, so if you can afford it, buy it. If not, the X50 is a fine robot. Genuinely. And I never got tired of watching it yeet itself over thresholds and steps. The AI onboard helped the robot get better over time at navigation, and if anything, my only complaint is that it had to return to dock all the time to top up or recharge, so cleaning a whole house took a long time to get done. Worth mentioning: I recently tested the Mova P50 Ultra, and while I thought the robot wasn't worth the price (by a lot), it did delight me in how it sailed over thresholds but also turned sideways to actively clean the threshold itself (but don't buy it, the build sucks). |Roborock Saros 10|$1599.99|$1599.99|0|[https://amzn.to/40xGAHO](https://amzn.to/40xGAHO)| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Dreame X50 Ultra|$1699.99|1199.99|29%|[https://amzn.to/3GrCzhm](https://amzn.to/3GrCzhm)| |Roborock Saros 10R|$1,599.99|1,279.99|20%|[https://amzn.to/4lFxi4W](https://amzn.to/4lFxi4W)| # Best vacuum for pets Embargo'd til 7/7 # Best vacuum if you don't want a mop Embargo'd til 7/7 # Best vacuum if you don't want an auto-emptying tower This is absurd, you should want the tower, or there's almost no point in getting a robovac to begin with. Autonomy is the point. But, if you absolutely, totally insist, (and the Switchbot K10+ tower isn't small enough for you, because that sucker will fit anywhere), I very reluctantly offer the Roborock Q10 S5. I hated the Dyson 360Visnav, and the iRobot Roomba 205 was a total flop. Roborock's budget line may not have the greatest quality build but atleast they work most of the time. |Roborock Q10 S5+|$549.99|351.99|36%|[https://amzn.to/44cLbS9](https://amzn.to/44cLbS9)| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| # Best vacuum if you have small kids Embargo'd til 7/7 # Best all around vacuum Embargo'd til 7/7

The 10 isn't going to go on sale, tho.... only the 10R. Now, I still think the 10 is a great vacuum, so don't be deterred. Honestly, I didn't think one was dramatically better than the other on carpet. Where I saw a difference was mopping and navigation. I prefer the vibrating mop on the 10, for sure. Don't get the deebot. If you do get the 10, here's an affiliate link to amazon, if you feel inclined. [https://www.eufy.com/products/t2353111?variant=44777910075578](https://www.eufy.com/products/t2353111?variant=44777910075578)

I can make it easy. Get the Roborock. The 10 works better.

So I have to explain my perspective on suction. Suction is good, more suction is certainly better, but people make suction the determining factor of whether they buy a vacuum when I have seen vacuums with 22, 000pa That don't do a great job. I'm more determining factor is how three parts of the robot interact. You have the sweeps which have to effectively get the debris towards the rollers. Then you have the rollers which have to sweep the debris that's in its path up but not allow the debris to get stuck, clogging the rollers. If they do their job right then the debris is perfectly positioned for the suction to pull it through into the debris canister inside. I could get really nerdy and talk about the size of the opening on the debris canister, And also how straight the tube is in the tower that evacuates the debris from the robot, but everyone would die of boredom. So, back to your question. Yes, the saros 10 has plenty of suction. But more importantly, those three parts play really well together. I love that split roller on the saros... It ensures that not a lot of debris gets clogged in the rollers. I think the new roborock sweep which just has those two arms is fine, I definitely preferred the 3i sweeps (there are two of them, they're so large that they are cartoonish looking, and they always have contact with the floor). But every single model of vacuum is different, because they're just too many factors at play. For instance, the eufy e25 and e28 should be fantastic. They've got the double sweeps that make contact with the floor. They have a split roller design. They have high suction. And yet the robot blows because the software sucks and it errors out all the time. It's why it's hard to judge a vacuum based on the stats alone.

There are two models that do this well. The Saros 10 and the X50. There are distinct differences between the two that will help you decide, since in terms of climbing, they're about the same. 1. The x50 has to return to base often to recharge/empty, more so than the Saros. It would take a whole day to get a 2000sqft home (these are champagne problems, but...) 2. You've got a real difference of cleaning techniques. The X50 has two spinning mop pads, the Saros has a vibrating mop pad. Now, I prefer a mop pad, gets more grime out. But... it can't extend beyond the robot, so the twin pads get close to walls, get under toe kicks, etc. 3. While they share the same features for the most part, the app experience on Roborock is preferable, IMO. Less adverts, etc. 4. Navigation wise, VERY comparable. In either case, wait for Prime Day.

Hey. I have textured white tile. It makes me INSANE, because grime settled into the pitted areas of the tile. Here's my advice, after testing 50 or so robots. It makes sense that the best results would be from the spinning mop pads, but they're the least effective. For reasons I am unable to explain, the vibrating mod pad seems to be the most effective, far better than roller mops. The vibrating does the best job, and some newer models like Saros 10/10R have the lifting chassis that seems to be a good job of putting downward pressure on the mop. That all said... its unrealistic to expect that the robot, any robot, will get grime off your tiles. The best you should hope for is that manual scrubbing will do that, and a robot can maintain it (more or less).

no. I'd go w the Saros. [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1lr2zgt/comment/n1vhrkz/?context=3) are my recommendations on what to buy.

These models are SO discounted for PD, I wouldn't wait. Get the 10.

There is no perfect robovac.... but... I like the robots with split rollers, like the Roborock Saros line. These also have a removable tray, and I think the hardware is solid. But in reality, almost all premium robovacs and even the midtiers have these features (removable trays, etc).

CONGRATULATIONS. your life will immediately get better. The X50 and the Saros 10 are the best choices of what you mentioned. Here's why: [https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1lu7dbu/every\_prime\_day\_robovac\_and\_recommendations/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1lu7dbu/every_prime_day_robovac_and_recommendations/)

Between the two, no question, the Flow is better (I tested both). Still, neither beats the 3i S10 Ultra, and I think they're both on par with the Saros 10/10r. I know everyone wants roller mops to be the end all be all, but so far, they're good, but didn't blow my mind.

Hey. I've listed every [single price](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nvsulx/every_robovac_on_sale_for_amazon_big_deal_days/) for the Big Deal Days sale, and my recommendations [per price band](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nzbtex/big_deal_day_recommendations_by_price_band_these/). However, I'm getting the same questions over and over, so here's some additional context. # Best Robot for Long Hair (human or pet) Hair is the foil of all robot vacuums. It doesn't just wrap around the rollers, it also gets wrapped around the sweeps and the wheels, and while it doesn't hurt the robot, it will make it less effective, and require you to clean it more often. This isn't a problem with short haired pets (they have a different problem). Yes, having high suction is important, but it doesn't always translate to getting more debris up. In the case of long hair, nothing beats a razor cutter on the robot, and the only line that has one that I recommend is the Eureka J15 line. I like this line a lot for other reasons, too, but if you've got a long hair problem, this is the answer. There are J15s at a number of price points. [Eureka J15 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4gUYACY) [Eureka J15 Evo Ultra](https://amzn.to/42tMbQF) [Eureka J15 Max Ultra](https://amzn.to/46UkK3x) # Best Robot for Short Haired Pets Now, you have a different problem, which is sticky hair. Short hair sticks to the floor, it climbs the walls, and you need a sweep that will effectively get it off the ground and move it toward the roller, where the vacuum can capture it. The sweep plays a critical role here, and the sweeps that are most effective are large, in constant contact w the ground, and move in opposite directions. Eufy e25/e28 have the right design for this, but I don't recommend them for other reasons. The models that I've found that do this best are the 3i G10, P10 and S10. I love these models for other reasons, but those sweeps seal the deal for me on short hair. It's just a bonus that they are also the only models that can suck up cat litter without clogging. [3i G10+](https://amzn.to/48znS7N) [3i P10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4h1Sy3y) [3i S10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4o7hKIe) # Best Robot for Carpet If you've got a whole house of carpet, I like the Dreame X50, Dreame L40, Eureka J15 Ultra, and Switchbot K11+. That's not to say other robots suck at vacuuming, they don't. But I like these models specifically on carpet, and if you've just got one room with carpet, consider getting the K11+ for that room alone. Its cheap and great at navigating under beds, etc. [Dreame X50 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4h77Wfa) [Dreame L40 Ultra](https://amzn.to/48Rswhk) [Eureka J15 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4gUYACY) [SwitchBot Robot Vacuum K11+](https://amzn.to/4mOxq1O) # Best Robot for LVP Lots of people have LVP and want something specialized for it. In truth, there's nothing special about it. A robot good at hard floors will work for LVP. There aren't really robots that leave a lot of water behind anymore. # Best Robot for Area Rugs This is not a model specific problem, its a rug problem. Rugs have to be well anchored to the ground (a grip pad isn't going to cut it forever), and the lower the profile, the better. Think Ruggables. If a rug starts to roll up on an end, the robot is going to have trouble. If a rug has fringe, its a bad match for a robot. Even bathroom rugs are rough for robots. All that said, a robot with a lifting chassis is going to have an easier time getting onto a rug. Think X50, Saros 10/10r, CurvX. [Dreame X50 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4h77Wfa) [Roborock Qrevo CurvX](https://amzn.to/48PvS4j) [Saros 10/10r](https://amzn.to/4nyiwy5) # Best Robot for Small Spaces Get a Switchbot K11+. That is all. It's a vacuum only, but costs next to nothing, and is shockingly full of premium features. It also is a effective vacuum, getting into places no other robot can because of its size. [SwitchBot Robot Vacuum K11+](https://amzn.to/4mOxq1O) # Best Robot for Corners This doesn't exist. No robot is great at corners. In fact, most robots aren't great at the "edges" of rooms, they're mostly good at the main open area of a room. You have to let this go. The best you can do is get a robot with extending sweeps/brushes. A lot of robots have these now, and they're one of the best features. # Best Robot if You're Hellbent on a Roller Mop Everyone in this Reddit forum is convinced rollers are the end all/be all of mops. I disagree. They're fine. But if you're just absolutely determined to get one, get the Flow. Eufy's e25/e28 models were riddled with errors, and Dreame's roller mop leaks and streaks. The Flow was easily the best of the bunch. [Narwal Flow](https://amzn.to/3IxMoLX) # Best Robot for People with ADHD Also, my favorite robot. The point of a robot, for me, is autonomy. I want it to do the damn job, with as little required of me as possible. Otherwise, I might as well do the job myself. While most robots do help, they also require upkeep and new, consistent input. Change the water, change the filter, unclog it, find it where it got stuck on a cord, etc. And then, I tried the 3i S10, which i had zero expectations of, because I'd never heard of the brand. This is the robot to get if you're overwhelmed and just want the job done. It vacuums EVERYTHING without clogging. Does it silently. It mops well, and both makes its own water and sanitizes the water it recycles so you never have to change the water. It's got downsides: its effing HUGE and heavy. It looks like an exhibit at a science museum. Its expensive, and some people say it smells musty (it makes water via a dehumidifier, so that makes sense). But readers, I would marry mine. [3i S10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4o7hKIe) \------------------------------- For some context, I [write about robovacs](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1l48fms/i_write_about_robot_vacuums_for_a_living_ama/) both for an online pub and my own site. I shared similar information and advice for [Prime Day](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1ljl8wd/prime_day_deals/), and people were generally pretty [happy](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1m0sjou/amanda_amanda_amanda_the_dreame_l40_is_amazing/) w the recommendations from the feedback. Feel free to ask questions. These are affiliate links, I had mod permission.

I don't think anything compares to the S10. Honestly, I don't. A robot you don't have to change the water on? That sucks up giant debris? it's currently 800$ off, so compared to other $1000 robots, its not even close. BUT.... I still think their P10 is a good deal as well. its down to $46. i also really like the J15 lineup, and the Saros 10/10r. Lots of them are great robots, I just think this one is really different.

Do me a favor. see what the S8 MaxV Ultra is running right now.

that's accurate, FWIW. The 10 is a a clear successor to the S8 line and the 10R is closer to the QRevo line. Generally, i think the Saros 10 is worth a few hundred bucks more than the s8 maxv ultra, but not like, 700 more, which is what it usually is.

getting ONTO the rug is the problem, not the rug itself. Avoiding it isn't a big deal.... all robots will do that. No robot is going to accidentally mop your rug, those days are long past. but.. if that rug isn't well anchored? the edges will curl and the robot could even get caught on the threads of the rug if its long enough shag. So... option 1: avoid it entirely. That's... any decent robot. In which case, just choose from my recommendations based on price. option 2: get a robot with a lifting chassis. That's the X9, Saros 10 or Saros 10r. of them, Though not technically a "step", getting onto the rug will benefit from a chassis that can raise itself onto a higher platform. Here's all the models for sale starting Tuesday. [https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nvsulx/every\_robovac\_on\_sale\_for\_amazon\_big\_deal\_days/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nvsulx/every_robovac_on_sale_for_amazon_big_deal_days/)

At that price point, this weekend, you can get a premium model. Yes, there are still some compromises- often models are better at one thing than another. But most are good enough at both, I think getting 2 bots isn't the solution. But also, you need to know... roombas, even the new line, are just terrible. Go with another brand. Heres a list of every single model on sale: [https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1p2d4qy/every\_black\_friday\_deal\_on\_robovacs/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1p2d4qy/every_black_friday_deal_on_robovacs/) And what I'd recommend at those price points, including the band you're talking about. [https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1p7ihnr/im\_a\_robot\_reporter\_heres\_my\_black\_friday/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1p7ihnr/im_a_robot_reporter_heres_my_black_friday/) There are really four models there. The Flow, 3i S10 Ultra, the X50 and the Saros 10/10r. I wouldn't consider others. Tell me about your floor.

I had the S7 Maxv Ultra for two years. Cleaning was really good. But there were some issues. My main complaint was the dock, it was difficult to clean and maintain, and it would require a heavy cleaning once in a while or it would start to smell. It was especially hard to get the gunk out, around the little cleaning brush and wiper in the dock. I did it, but swore I would get a different model next time. When it died a week ago, I wanted to get the new Saros 10r. But regionally here, its a lot more expensive. So got the Saros 10. I had it for 24 hours, then returned it. It was smarter looking then my S7, it moved about more intelligently, and it crossed the high barriers in my house. But the mopping was surprisingly bad, worse even then my S7. I did 4x full deep cleans on maximum power in my kitchen/living room and in none of these cleans, did not manage to get any dry stains off on our laminate floors. Mind you, these stains were not week old, nor difficult to remove. It ran over these stains several times to no effect. I could moist my finger and remove the stain without any force. But it didn't manage to remove any of them. It vacuumed pretty good, on par with my old S7. But it did not reach out to clean the floors under my radiators, as my old S7 did. Don't know if it was an obstacle avoidance setting, but it didn't. It did manage to get under one particular annoying serving table I have in a hallway, where the s7 and older models usually got stuck, so that part was good. The dock was a clear upgrade in pure functions, with the detergent dispenser, and the heating system. But it still got nasty like the old S7. After a full day of cleaning, gunk started building up in all the same places. So, it went back. I really REALLY, wanted it to be good. As I have a ton of spare mopping pads for it, and I thought it looked cool. But it wasn't good enough. I am now contemplating the Qrevo Curv, as a replacement. Due to the easy to clean dock, and the different mopping system. I wanted to try the Saros 10r, but it's just too expensive here.

Samme her, hadde en eldre Roborock som vi byttet med 10ern, og det var natt og dag i forhold til den gamle.

That duo divide is just awesome and worth the upgrade!

I have a Saros 10 downstairs and a P50 upstairs. The Saros 10 is double the price and I can't see any difference after they clean. Both are very good.

Check out the youtube channel Vacuum Wars, he does a ton of comparisons and yearly roundups. I have one of the more recent Roborock ones where the roller on the bottom is split in the middle, and hair rolls inward (they call it DuoDivide). I have found it to do a good job of not tangling due to the way it's designed and it has worked great for me, though the thing definitely wasn't cheap. That being said, I wouldn't call almost any electronic device BIFL, especially ones with a lot of moving parts.

It's a no Brainer Buy it And saros 10 is better than r because it has vibrating mop pad which are better I use s8 max v ultra Just buy saros 10 asap at this cost

I think it looks nice - I’ve had problems with every roomba I’ve owned and most people I know generally don’t like their roombas. I’ve been super pleased with the S10.

Hard floors or carpet? I have the Saros 10 with duo divide and it does an excellent job of not getting tangled, but it also doesn't actually pick up the hair off of carpet and rugs. So it's great for hard floors, but for my carpeted upstairs I use a Roomba because untangling once a week or so is worth actually getting the floor clean.

I have used the flagships from all the main Chinese brands, but I wouldn't say that any one is, on whole, better than the Roomba J9 or C10. My main gripes with the Roomba are hair tangles on the roller spindles, lack of edge mopping, and a fast side brush that flings crumbs out of the path. Most recently I got a Roborock Saros 10 that does indeed address those issues, but it falls short in others. The Roomba scrubs dried stains more effectively and it vacuums more debris out of thick carpet. Even though hair can get tangled around the roller spindles, it actually picks up the hair off the carpet. No other brand has been able to effectively pick up hair/fur/fuzz off my carpet (I'm sure Dyson would be an exception, but it doesn't mop). The Roborock won't get close enough to my table pedestal to get the crumbs that have fallen there, which is a daily annoyance. Roomba has no trouble with this. Roomba has great integration with Google Assistant, so I can have it clean shortcuts/routines without having to take my phone out of my pocket. I haven't seen any other brand be able to do this. Roomba and Shark are the only brands that can effectively avoid dragging a wet pad across medium pile carpet. Other brands don't lift the pad high enough, and the idea of dropping off the pads is useless when you have to traverse across carpet to get to/from the place to mop. There are a lot of complaints that Roombas can't navigate in the dark. While LiDAR bots can navigate in the dark, good object avoidance still relies on cameras, which doesn't work as well in the dark anyway. So better to clean in the light anyway. So I think the Roomba c10 and the Shark Nevertouch Pro are both excellent choices that you shouldn't feel bad about. They will have annoyances, but so will anything else.

I don't know about the new lineup, but nothing beats a Roomba 9-series on carpet, though. Even on hard floors, my Saros 10 misses a lot of spots that my J9 never did.

There are a few compromises to be aware of. I've had a Saros 10 for almost a year, but I still send my Roomba J9 out once in a while to clean up what the Saros misses. I also have the Narwal Flow, Roomba 705, previously had Dreame and Ecovacs, and nothing can clean tight around chair legs, round table pedestals, etc. as well as the classic Roombas. Roomba roller brush design also picks up hair, fur, and fuzz on rugs much better than any other brand, regardless of reported power. Also, LIDAR-based robots won't clean under curtains or bedding like classic Roombas could. I'm only aware of Dreame/Mova having a setting to accommodate this. The Roombas (old and new) also have more advanced voice control via Google/Siri/Alexa that allows just vacuuming, and can specify zones in addition to rooms. All other brands can only "clean" which wastes time and water when you just need a quick vacuum. Also, the Roomba app is just way more efficient to use. Not saying the move isn't worth it overall, but there are some sacrifices to be aware of.