Saros 10R

I was a fan. In particular, a little quirk of the 10r. Is that because of the internal lidar/ ai assisted camera navigation, It was so much more daring than other robots. It was willing to slide into spots underneath low-hanging indoor plants and tight squeezes. And even though it mostly has the same chassis as the 10, it didn't have the problems of the 10, which kept trying to yeet itself over anything it could. My only complaint is that I prefer a singular vibrating mop pad to two spinning mops and the 10r had the two spinning mops and they left the singular mop pad for the 10.

I just tested and reviewed this one and gave it 3 out of 5 Stars. I was very unimpressed. Although I'm not done with my testing of the z70, it is not ready for prime time. The x50 was good, And I think that would be a fine purchase. I also highly recommend the saros 10r and 10. But... I was alone out of the water with the 3i S10 and no one talks about it.

I'm surprised how much I actually enjoy these threads. So I'm going to kill two of yours and reintroduce one. I don't think those are the right q revos to look at... If anything I'd say the max V. But I can make it easy because if you can afford the robots that you're talking about I think it comes down to four models. The s8 maxv ultra which shakes out to be the best of the S8 line. The curv, which is also excellent, but slightly different from the s8. Saros 10 Saros 10r Do you have thresholds? If so, get the 10. Do you have a lot of obstacles on your floor? Like a fan and lamps and furniture and other crap small spaces that the robot needs to go into? If so, get a 10r, even if you have thresholds. You don't have thresholds or small spaces, I would consider the S8 or curv, because they're excellent, and dramatically cheaper. And excepting the issue with thresholds, I'm not highly sold that the Saros are $700 better. And the best part is, there is no wrong answer. The main differentiator is the shape of the tower and that the curv has twin spinning mops and the s8 has a vibrating mop pad. Because you have ceramic tile, and I do too, that means you have grime. For that reason I recommend the s8. I believe the vibrating pad does better on grind

easy peasy. its beteen the saros and dreame, the roomba is laughable, and the e28 has a lot of errors. I prefer the Saros.

oooh. that's a good note. i'll email and ask about it! They're a new brand. They started with a Kickstarter, but after I wrote about them, they started to get reviewed well by other outlets, so I think they're on the way up. Look. the 10r is also a very good robot, but not AS good, and also more expensive. Until 7/8, who knows, but that's the price they've told me, and the embargo on it dropped yesterday. but... for instance, yeedi just updated their PD prices and they got even better deals, so who knows? On 7/8 I'll try hard to do a quick update in the morning... (i would LOVE help from someone checking prices on the graph for me... happy to send a thank you in the mail).

The 10r is very new and it could be why they're not discounting it more. But I do think it's a really good choice to arrive at.

Hey, I am as excited as you are to test a DJI robot, but that's all. Test it. I can't see any reason to wait, because it could (and likely will) have quirks that need to be worked out. And I like DJI. There are a lot of brands, but I agree with the Roborock sentiment for this reason: they are consistently putting out good machines, whereas most other companies are hit and miss for me, and some are just consistent misses. If your dad is getting these clean via Swiffer, almost anything is going to be better or atleast the same, EXCEPT for the "edges" of rooms. He may still Swiffer, but atleast it'll only be toekicks, corners, under the stove/fridge, etc. I don't have numbers on the Saros downward force... they may well be out there. But just think of it this way, that lifting chassis brings up the front of the robot to go over thresholds. The back is forced downward, where the mop is. What I can say is that I think you can't go wrong here and you're probably making yourself more nuts than you have to. Both were GREAT machines and honestly, I had a very hard time saying one was better. They're mildly different, that's all. Based on what you're saying, if you trust me, go with a 10R.

without having tested the L50 U, your assessment nails my testing. I think people aren't giving these lifting chasses enough credit (though y'all didn't like the X50 and I thought it did well in testing). Saros weren't as big a leap forward from the s8/Qrevo as I wanted, but when they're on sale, I think they hold value.

10R. By a lot.

Get a [3i G10+](https://amzn.to/48znS7N). I can't tell you it will always handle the cat litter, but it stands the best chance. Almost all robovacs have no go zones, and the sweep is great with short hair. Navigation is an issue for you, but the G10 managed my home w no issue (smaller, but similar situation w many rooms). As for the Shark and Roomba, you've just been dating bad dudes, my friend. You deserve better :)

How weird, I typed out a LONG comment and it never published. BAH. ok... so here's your deal. You're gonna struggle with those rugs unless they are really locked down to the floor or you have a robot with a lifting chassis. Generally, when someone has 2 stories I think a better solution is to get 2 less expensive robots instead of shuttling one between floors. The point of robots is autonomy, so.... give them their own domain. With that said, you've got a house that doesn't have a lot of challenges, so we just have to focus on cat litter and human hair. The leaning towards the Flow tells me you're emphasizing mopping, but I'd say vacuuming is equally important in your house. For that reason, get a [Saros 10r](https://amzn.to/46Y6lUd). Its equally good at mopping and vacuuming and has the lifting chassis. Its got the best shot at not getting clogged with cat litter (the BEST would be the 3i S10, but it doesn't have a lifting chassis). If you can afford it, get 2! but really, get one now, shuttle it between floors and get a second for Black Friday when you realize I was right about schlepping it up and down stairs.

Tough. I like the [Narwal Flow](https://amzn.to/3IxMoLX) for mopping, but 3 dogs... that's a lot of hair. Ugh. You can't go wrong here, but I'm leaning towards the [Saros 10r](https://amzn.to/46Y6lUd) which is a more balanced robot.

nice small space, you just have a lot of hair. Get a [3i P10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4h1Sy3y). Its a nice, middle of the road option.

some thoughts. first, buy it next week since most are on [sale.](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nvsulx/comment/nhmjcxj/?context=1) Some thoughts on the models above: the p50 has a known hardware problem that they never seem to solve. Skip it. The S70 is a gimmick and separately, not a great vacuum. Trying to be too much. The Aqua 10 is fine, but leaks for a lot of people. I like the x9 or the 10R as options.... the Dreame models you noted aren't my favs.

I'm enjoying the one on the 3i, but that said, I think the adoration for the roller is overblown. It's probably cleaner than the mop pad or spinning pads due to the design, but that doesn't always translate to cleaner floors. I've had the best experience from the vibrating mop pads... but that Qrevo MaxV and Saros 10R both do a great job with spinning pads, too. It's less about the method and more about the model.

getting ONTO the rug is the problem, not the rug itself. Avoiding it isn't a big deal.... all robots will do that. No robot is going to accidentally mop your rug, those days are long past. but.. if that rug isn't well anchored? the edges will curl and the robot could even get caught on the threads of the rug if its long enough shag. So... option 1: avoid it entirely. That's... any decent robot. In which case, just choose from my recommendations based on price. option 2: get a robot with a lifting chassis. That's the X9, Saros 10 or Saros 10r. of them, Though not technically a "step", getting onto the rug will benefit from a chassis that can raise itself onto a higher platform. Here's all the models for sale starting Tuesday. [https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nvsulx/every\_robovac\_on\_sale\_for\_amazon\_big\_deal\_days/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nvsulx/every_robovac_on_sale_for_amazon_big_deal_days/)

lol. I also really liked the 10R, and while I was lukewarm on a lot of Dreame bots, the X50 was honestly pretty great.

MOVA has subpar parts, the l50 is nothing special. That leaves the X50 and 10R. its a very even split, IMO, with a slight edge to the 10R. The 10R was more daring, getting into smaller spaces. I prefer it as a vacuum. Even split on mops. Vastly prefer Roborock app to Dreame. [https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nvsulx/every\_robovac\_on\_sale\_for\_amazon\_big\_deal\_days/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nvsulx/every_robovac_on_sale_for_amazon_big_deal_days/)

dreame's water tank is bigger, but it uses more water. The saros is prettier, BUT that front will show every fingerprint. That said, the nav on the 10R beats both other robots. It is more daring, fitting into more spaces. So, for me, it'd be the 10r.

and the 10r doesn't come in white. that answers that, then!

I just tested and reviewed this one and gave it 3 out of 5 Stars. I was very unimpressed. Although I'm not done with my testing of the z70, it is not ready for prime time. The x50 was good, And I think that would be a fine purchase. I also highly recommend the saros 10r and 10. But... I was alone out of the water with the 3i S10 and no one talks about it.

I'm surprised how much I actually enjoy these threads. So I'm going to kill two of yours and reintroduce one. I don't think those are the right q revos to look at... If anything I'd say the max V. But I can make it easy because if you can afford the robots that you're talking about I think it comes down to four models. The s8 maxv ultra which shakes out to be the best of the S8 line. The curv, which is also excellent, but slightly different from the s8. Saros 10 Saros 10r Do you have thresholds? If so, get the 10. Do you have a lot of obstacles on your floor? Like a fan and lamps and furniture and other crap small spaces that the robot needs to go into? If so, get a 10r, even if you have thresholds. You don't have thresholds or small spaces, I would consider the S8 or curv, because they're excellent, and dramatically cheaper. And excepting the issue with thresholds, I'm not highly sold that the Saros are $700 better. And the best part is, there is no wrong answer. The main differentiator is the shape of the tower and that the curv has twin spinning mops and the s8 has a vibrating mop pad. Because you have ceramic tile, and I do too, that means you have grime. For that reason I recommend the s8. I believe the vibrating pad does better on grind

Hi. I review robots for a living. That store link was super helpful. My advice is simple: get a roborock. I think the S8 Maxv Ultra is a fantastic model, around $1000. The Saros 10/10R are also there, and also great. Personally, i prefer a mop pad, so I'd say the 10, not the 10R. The prices are close enough that I'd say the Saros might be worth these few $$. I don't enjoy either model you named...the Mova has cheap hardware, and the X9 was incredibly Meh in performance.

I can make it easy. Get the Roborock. The 10 works better.

So I have to explain my perspective on suction. Suction is good, more suction is certainly better, but people make suction the determining factor of whether they buy a vacuum when I have seen vacuums with 22, 000pa That don't do a great job. I'm more determining factor is how three parts of the robot interact. You have the sweeps which have to effectively get the debris towards the rollers. Then you have the rollers which have to sweep the debris that's in its path up but not allow the debris to get stuck, clogging the rollers. If they do their job right then the debris is perfectly positioned for the suction to pull it through into the debris canister inside. I could get really nerdy and talk about the size of the opening on the debris canister, And also how straight the tube is in the tower that evacuates the debris from the robot, but everyone would die of boredom. So, back to your question. Yes, the saros 10 has plenty of suction. But more importantly, those three parts play really well together. I love that split roller on the saros... It ensures that not a lot of debris gets clogged in the rollers. I think the new roborock sweep which just has those two arms is fine, I definitely preferred the 3i sweeps (there are two of them, they're so large that they are cartoonish looking, and they always have contact with the floor). But every single model of vacuum is different, because they're just too many factors at play. For instance, the eufy e25 and e28 should be fantastic. They've got the double sweeps that make contact with the floor. They have a split roller design. They have high suction. And yet the robot blows because the software sucks and it errors out all the time. It's why it's hard to judge a vacuum based on the stats alone.

There are two models that do this well. The Saros 10 and the X50. There are distinct differences between the two that will help you decide, since in terms of climbing, they're about the same. 1. The x50 has to return to base often to recharge/empty, more so than the Saros. It would take a whole day to get a 2000sqft home (these are champagne problems, but...) 2. You've got a real difference of cleaning techniques. The X50 has two spinning mop pads, the Saros has a vibrating mop pad. Now, I prefer a mop pad, gets more grime out. But... it can't extend beyond the robot, so the twin pads get close to walls, get under toe kicks, etc. 3. While they share the same features for the most part, the app experience on Roborock is preferable, IMO. Less adverts, etc. 4. Navigation wise, VERY comparable. In either case, wait for Prime Day.

Hey. I have textured white tile. It makes me INSANE, because grime settled into the pitted areas of the tile. Here's my advice, after testing 50 or so robots. It makes sense that the best results would be from the spinning mop pads, but they're the least effective. For reasons I am unable to explain, the vibrating mod pad seems to be the most effective, far better than roller mops. The vibrating does the best job, and some newer models like Saros 10/10R have the lifting chassis that seems to be a good job of putting downward pressure on the mop. That all said... its unrealistic to expect that the robot, any robot, will get grime off your tiles. The best you should hope for is that manual scrubbing will do that, and a robot can maintain it (more or less).

no. I'd go w the Saros. [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1lr2zgt/comment/n1vhrkz/?context=3) are my recommendations on what to buy.

These models are SO discounted for PD, I wouldn't wait. Get the 10.

CONGRATULATIONS. your life will immediately get better. The X50 and the Saros 10 are the best choices of what you mentioned. Here's why: [https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1lu7dbu/every\_prime\_day\_robovac\_and\_recommendations/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1lu7dbu/every_prime_day_robovac_and_recommendations/)

Between the two, no question, the Flow is better (I tested both). Still, neither beats the 3i S10 Ultra, and I think they're both on par with the Saros 10/10r. I know everyone wants roller mops to be the end all be all, but so far, they're good, but didn't blow my mind.

Hey. I've listed every [single price](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nvsulx/every_robovac_on_sale_for_amazon_big_deal_days/) for the Big Deal Days sale, and my recommendations [per price band](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nzbtex/big_deal_day_recommendations_by_price_band_these/). However, I'm getting the same questions over and over, so here's some additional context. # Best Robot for Long Hair (human or pet) Hair is the foil of all robot vacuums. It doesn't just wrap around the rollers, it also gets wrapped around the sweeps and the wheels, and while it doesn't hurt the robot, it will make it less effective, and require you to clean it more often. This isn't a problem with short haired pets (they have a different problem). Yes, having high suction is important, but it doesn't always translate to getting more debris up. In the case of long hair, nothing beats a razor cutter on the robot, and the only line that has one that I recommend is the Eureka J15 line. I like this line a lot for other reasons, too, but if you've got a long hair problem, this is the answer. There are J15s at a number of price points. [Eureka J15 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4gUYACY) [Eureka J15 Evo Ultra](https://amzn.to/42tMbQF) [Eureka J15 Max Ultra](https://amzn.to/46UkK3x) # Best Robot for Short Haired Pets Now, you have a different problem, which is sticky hair. Short hair sticks to the floor, it climbs the walls, and you need a sweep that will effectively get it off the ground and move it toward the roller, where the vacuum can capture it. The sweep plays a critical role here, and the sweeps that are most effective are large, in constant contact w the ground, and move in opposite directions. Eufy e25/e28 have the right design for this, but I don't recommend them for other reasons. The models that I've found that do this best are the 3i G10, P10 and S10. I love these models for other reasons, but those sweeps seal the deal for me on short hair. It's just a bonus that they are also the only models that can suck up cat litter without clogging. [3i G10+](https://amzn.to/48znS7N) [3i P10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4h1Sy3y) [3i S10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4o7hKIe) # Best Robot for Carpet If you've got a whole house of carpet, I like the Dreame X50, Dreame L40, Eureka J15 Ultra, and Switchbot K11+. That's not to say other robots suck at vacuuming, they don't. But I like these models specifically on carpet, and if you've just got one room with carpet, consider getting the K11+ for that room alone. Its cheap and great at navigating under beds, etc. [Dreame X50 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4h77Wfa) [Dreame L40 Ultra](https://amzn.to/48Rswhk) [Eureka J15 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4gUYACY) [SwitchBot Robot Vacuum K11+](https://amzn.to/4mOxq1O) # Best Robot for LVP Lots of people have LVP and want something specialized for it. In truth, there's nothing special about it. A robot good at hard floors will work for LVP. There aren't really robots that leave a lot of water behind anymore. # Best Robot for Area Rugs This is not a model specific problem, its a rug problem. Rugs have to be well anchored to the ground (a grip pad isn't going to cut it forever), and the lower the profile, the better. Think Ruggables. If a rug starts to roll up on an end, the robot is going to have trouble. If a rug has fringe, its a bad match for a robot. Even bathroom rugs are rough for robots. All that said, a robot with a lifting chassis is going to have an easier time getting onto a rug. Think X50, Saros 10/10r, CurvX. [Dreame X50 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4h77Wfa) [Roborock Qrevo CurvX](https://amzn.to/48PvS4j) [Saros 10/10r](https://amzn.to/4nyiwy5) # Best Robot for Small Spaces Get a Switchbot K11+. That is all. It's a vacuum only, but costs next to nothing, and is shockingly full of premium features. It also is a effective vacuum, getting into places no other robot can because of its size. [SwitchBot Robot Vacuum K11+](https://amzn.to/4mOxq1O) # Best Robot for Corners This doesn't exist. No robot is great at corners. In fact, most robots aren't great at the "edges" of rooms, they're mostly good at the main open area of a room. You have to let this go. The best you can do is get a robot with extending sweeps/brushes. A lot of robots have these now, and they're one of the best features. # Best Robot if You're Hellbent on a Roller Mop Everyone in this Reddit forum is convinced rollers are the end all/be all of mops. I disagree. They're fine. But if you're just absolutely determined to get one, get the Flow. Eufy's e25/e28 models were riddled with errors, and Dreame's roller mop leaks and streaks. The Flow was easily the best of the bunch. [Narwal Flow](https://amzn.to/3IxMoLX) # Best Robot for People with ADHD Also, my favorite robot. The point of a robot, for me, is autonomy. I want it to do the damn job, with as little required of me as possible. Otherwise, I might as well do the job myself. While most robots do help, they also require upkeep and new, consistent input. Change the water, change the filter, unclog it, find it where it got stuck on a cord, etc. And then, I tried the 3i S10, which i had zero expectations of, because I'd never heard of the brand. This is the robot to get if you're overwhelmed and just want the job done. It vacuums EVERYTHING without clogging. Does it silently. It mops well, and both makes its own water and sanitizes the water it recycles so you never have to change the water. It's got downsides: its effing HUGE and heavy. It looks like an exhibit at a science museum. Its expensive, and some people say it smells musty (it makes water via a dehumidifier, so that makes sense). But readers, I would marry mine. [3i S10 Ultra](https://amzn.to/4o7hKIe) \------------------------------- For some context, I [write about robovacs](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1l48fms/i_write_about_robot_vacuums_for_a_living_ama/) both for an online pub and my own site. I shared similar information and advice for [Prime Day](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1ljl8wd/prime_day_deals/), and people were generally pretty [happy](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1m0sjou/amanda_amanda_amanda_the_dreame_l40_is_amazing/) w the recommendations from the feedback. Feel free to ask questions. These are affiliate links, I had mod permission.

I don't think anything compares to the S10. Honestly, I don't. A robot you don't have to change the water on? That sucks up giant debris? it's currently 800$ off, so compared to other $1000 robots, its not even close. BUT.... I still think their P10 is a good deal as well. its down to $46. i also really like the J15 lineup, and the Saros 10/10r. Lots of them are great robots, I just think this one is really different.

Do me a favor. see what the S8 MaxV Ultra is running right now.

that's accurate, FWIW. The 10 is a a clear successor to the S8 line and the 10R is closer to the QRevo line. Generally, i think the Saros 10 is worth a few hundred bucks more than the s8 maxv ultra, but not like, 700 more, which is what it usually is.

getting ONTO the rug is the problem, not the rug itself. Avoiding it isn't a big deal.... all robots will do that. No robot is going to accidentally mop your rug, those days are long past. but.. if that rug isn't well anchored? the edges will curl and the robot could even get caught on the threads of the rug if its long enough shag. So... option 1: avoid it entirely. That's... any decent robot. In which case, just choose from my recommendations based on price. option 2: get a robot with a lifting chassis. That's the X9, Saros 10 or Saros 10r. of them, Though not technically a "step", getting onto the rug will benefit from a chassis that can raise itself onto a higher platform. Here's all the models for sale starting Tuesday. [https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nvsulx/every\_robovac\_on\_sale\_for\_amazon\_big\_deal\_days/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1nvsulx/every_robovac_on_sale_for_amazon_big_deal_days/)

At that price point, this weekend, you can get a premium model. Yes, there are still some compromises- often models are better at one thing than another. But most are good enough at both, I think getting 2 bots isn't the solution. But also, you need to know... roombas, even the new line, are just terrible. Go with another brand. Heres a list of every single model on sale: [https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1p2d4qy/every\_black\_friday\_deal\_on\_robovacs/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1p2d4qy/every_black_friday_deal_on_robovacs/) And what I'd recommend at those price points, including the band you're talking about. [https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1p7ihnr/im\_a\_robot\_reporter\_heres\_my\_black\_friday/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1p7ihnr/im_a_robot_reporter_heres_my_black_friday/) There are really four models there. The Flow, 3i S10 Ultra, the X50 and the Saros 10/10r. I wouldn't consider others. Tell me about your floor.

there are only 2. [Roborock Saros 10](https://www.amazon.com/shop/amandablumstiktok/list/3QN77VNVN022D?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_aip_sf_list_spv_s_ons_mixed_d_3GVYP91HJC73QH3A2XK1)/10r and [Dreame X50 ultra](https://www.amazon.com/shop/amandablumstiktok/list/1H34OZE61D1JV?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_aipsflist_34VHK3G8D2127CHKQD4K_1). But in a year, that won't be true anymore.

How far away does it land? Are we talking a foot or it could be anywhere. I dont think this is an object recognition issue. You need a "no go zone" around the pee pads, end of problem. Most robots have such good poop recognition now that they avoid too many objects, but this is the best way to deal w your problem, honestly. I wouldn't do the Saros 10, I'd grab the S8 Max Ultra, which went on sale today. The Saros is an incremental improvement over the S8, so if its not comfortably affordable, downshift to the S8.

I have textured white tile. And a doggie door. And a big dog and I live someplace where it rains 300 days a year. Oh, and I test robots for a living. With few exceptions, roborock is the brand that I recommend. I'm kind of an outlier though because if you ask me based on my real world, testing in my home experience, you're not going to do better on textured tile than a vibrating mop pad. No rollers, no spinning mops. The vibration works well to get some grime out. If you can afford it, the S8 maxv ultra is the one I would recommend, and if you can grab it before the prime sale is gone, I would go for the saros 10... But once the sale is over, I don't think the 10 is worth it. It's an incremental improvement over the S8 and it's worth a couple hundred bucks. But I don't think it's worth 700 bucks.

ok, now I'm questioning myself, but i don't THINK i have.... (there was a lull in reviews for Lifehacker so a few robots went through that didn't get reviews, but I don't think that was one of them).

I have enough faith that its worth testing. I believe the Saros 10 (not 10r) might be able to. The height isn't the issue, its that its not really a step. There's a drop on the other side, too.

i watched it happen in my house over and over again. I wrote about it!

There is no perfect robovac.... but... I like the robots with split rollers, like the Roborock Saros line. These also have a removable tray, and I think the hardware is solid. But in reality, almost all premium robovacs and even the midtiers have these features (removable trays, etc).