SwitchBot - K10+

Hey. Because you're all hard floor and you named some specific features, I thought I'd talk through this with you. So, Pa is important, sure, but I'm testing robots with absurdly high Pa (over 20k) that miss a lot of debris, and then there's the Switchbot K10+ which has almost no Pa and gets most stuff up. I believe, strongly, that Pa matters less than people think (and marketing people at big brands agree, they keep upping Pa because consumers name it as their main decision making factor). What matters is the design and location of the sweeps in relation to the roller. I say all this because on hard floors, you see ALL the cat hair and litter... so that design is even more important. Navigating around toys: easy. Everyone does it well. Cords? No one does it well. Debris management: 3 months in between changing the bag isn't a big deal. I think you'll be fine. mova v50- low end parts. dreame L50- wasn't bad, but thought the vacuum left a lot to be desired. narwal freo z10, narwal freo z ultra- opposite of no maintenance. you'll be refilling the water every day. eufy e28-has the right sweep/roller design, but was riddled with errors and leaks roborock qrevo curv s5x. dreame x50- good option. [https://lifehacker.com/tech/dreame-x50-ultra-robot-vacuum-review](https://lifehacker.com/tech/dreame-x50-ultra-robot-vacuum-review)

This is some fantastic advice, and I think I'm going to pick up a SwitchBot K10+ based on a recommendation you made because my existing robot vac gets stuck around chair legs in my dining room. Being significantly smaller in my case may turn out to be more important than all the other fancy features on robots that are 4x the price.

Just got the vacuums, and I'm quite pleased - thanks for the recommendation! I bought 2 K10+ units since the price was so good. It's pretty amazing how much better it is at cleaning under my dining room table; it doesn't get stuck! My previous robovacs would get ensnared in all the chair legs and would need over 30 minutes to escape. I ended up making that room a "no go zone" with my Ecovacs. I have 3 floors in my house, so now I've got one robovac per flor, which is ideal for automation! Edit: The only issue with the Switchbot K10+ that I had was that the Android app is hot garbage. Setup didn't work, and I was getting a bunch of network errors. I tried using the iOS version of the app and it worked perfectly. Even once the robot is setup, the Android app can't properly communicate with the robovac.

Same here. We had a wobbly Roborock s5 and a switchbot k10+. Both if those dragged a wipe around and was more hassle then its worth. We upgraded to a Qrevo master and the difference of our hardwood floor and tiles are night and day.

The switchbot K10+ with 10% off is $180 plus shipping. It gets you auto-empty. The mop isn’t going to be worth much but the vacuum is good. Especially if you have tight spots you want it to get into.

I originally purchased the Switchbot K10+ combo, but after looking at the dust bin size on the robot it would need to go empty a few times each run. I’m now trying to decide if I should get the L40 and leave mop pads behind as will not be using that feature often on hardwood floors. My first floor is about 50/50 hardwood and carpet.

I had to put mine on the 1st floor only because it couldn't complete a run of any other floor without throwing itself down the stairs. (BTW, the SwitchBot Cloud integration already supports it.)

I don't have any experience with Dreame. I've got a Roborock, some Roombas, and the SwitchBot. If I were getting another, I'd probably pick up another Roborock (one with the same supplies) over another SwitchBot, because not falling down the stairs is rather important in my three-story house.  (would not got another Roomba). 

The switchbot k10+ with an all rubber brush should be pretty tangle resistant.

Vacuum only: roborock q5 or q8 max+ or the switchbot k10+ with a tangle resistant all rubber brush. Vacuum and mop combo: MOVA P10 Pro ultra at 399 (I think on Amazon US). This is a de facto last gen flagship and the antitangle TriCut brush (may ship in a bundle or needs to be bought separately from MOVA/dreame but AliExpress resellers can be cheaper) worked great with my long fur corgi’s fur and tumbleweeds. This one is least likely to get stuck compared to the previous options. Compared to other vacuum and mop combos under 400 which are solid budget robots, the p10 pro ultra blows them out of the water. As for the curved legs, I think the MOVA may at first try to ride up them then eventually learn how to properly avoid them. I have the MOVA V50 ultra and after it humped tripod legs on the first day, it was able to “learn” how to smoothly follow the tripod legs and avoid riding up on them on the third day (second day produced mixed results).

The K10+ doesn’t support Matter directly, only via the Hub 2 which means it shows as an on/off switch. Not as a vacuum. This is important to know! (I have both the K10+ and S10) I *think* the K10+ Pro Combo has a direct Matter update coming. The S10 supports direct Matter, but only 1.3 spec which doesn’t allow you to set a specific room via HomeKit, only choose stop/start and vacuum/vacuum and mop mode. SwitchBot have said a Matter 1.4 update is coming in August for the S10 But let’s see. FWIW I like the performance of the K10+, the S10 is acting a bit funky on the current firmware though.

Sort of. There's also the Eufy L50 and L60 models, which are almost the same except for less suction and a lower price for the L50. Also look at the new Roomba 105 and 705, many Shark models, and the Dyson 360 Vis Nav. As always, check reviews; the Roombas in particular haven't reviewed well. What's more common is a vacuum-only robot with a stationary mop pad that's just stuck on the bottom. Technically, it's a combo with mopping, but the mop is just an add-on, and can be ignored. An example of this is the Roborock Q5 Pro and Pro+, which is the Q5 Max and Max+ with a mop tacked on and a few cosmetic changes. Sometimes, the Pro is even cheaper than the Max, which makes the Pro the smart buy. Just throw the mop plate in a drawer or in the trash. Be careful, though, that you're not sacrificing dustbin space for the water tank. The very similar Roborock Q7 M5 does this, while the Pro has the water tank as part of the mop plate. The most notable model that technically supports mopping, but only as an add-on, is the SwitchBot K10+. It comes with little disposable mopping cloths that attach to hooks on the back of the robot. Ignore the cloths, and you have a very good small robot that can get into lots of tight spaces and which has been reviewed to vacuum well.

So an unknown brand just came out with a fairly pedestrian robot with stationary-pad mopping, and it has a higher rating than some of the highest-regarded robots on the market? Nope. If you really need mopping on a budget, take a look at the Dreame D10+, Eufy L60 Hybrid, or one of the Roborock Q series robots. For a big improvement in mopping for not much more money, look at the Eufy C20 or Dreame L10s Ultra series. Mova can be good, if they've solved their problem with fragile front wheels. If you don't care about mopping, look at the Eufy L60 SES or SwitchBot K10+.

One more for the list: SwitchBot K10+. Technically, it has a place to attach mop cloths on the back, but no internal water tank. This one is nice because of its size, which lets it get into some tight places.

The SwitchBot K10+ is a real bargain right now: https://www.switch-bot.com/products/switchbot-mini-robot-vacuum-k10 It's smaller than most other products, so it can easily get between chair legs and into corners, and it should finally be getting full Home Assistant integration this month.

I've not had that experience with mine.