Exped - Dura 5R Duo Sleeping Mat

The self inflating foam mats (MegaMat, Deep Sleep, Camp Dreamer, Roamer, etc) are supposed to be supreme comfort but I lack the give-a-sh*ts they require. You're supposed to store them open (problematic for double sized pads imo), they're heavy, and even in "compacted" travel mode they're still gigantic. I went with the Exped Dura 5R Duo and have been very satisfied. Packs down very small for travel. Can store it semi compressed in the air inflation bag so it fits fine in a closet. High R value, didn't have issues in the ~15°F I've had it in. Uses Exped's more durable fabric. I find it comfortable but I've never had issues with inflatable pads. Yet to use it as a double since my fiance has been busy but we did a lay out in the living room when it first came and both fit well.

I've got a Dura 5R Duo on order but keep second guessing about a MegaMat 10. What's your opinion Dura vs Mega? Use case is car camping, two people, one 50lb dog. Extra denier and *way* easier storage was why I went Dura but am I just overthinking that? Comfort and R value of the MegaMat are appealing.

Well if you are flying out to a camping adventure I would recommend: * Exped Dura 3 or 5 Duo. Much more durable than most air pads on the market and unlike a cheap Intex or Coleman it will have a 3 or 5 R value to actually keep you warm on colder nights. The long wide is definitely preferred over the medium unless the LW doesn't fit your tent. * [https://www.exped.com/en/products/sleeping-mats/dura-5r-duo](https://www.exped.com/en/products/sleeping-mats/dura-5r-duo) * Exped Flexmat or Flexmat Plus for the dogs. This will eliminate punctures from their nails and they will appreciate not having to sleep on the hard ground. * [https://www.exped.com/en/products/sleeping-mats/dura-5r-duo](https://www.exped.com/en/products/sleeping-mats/dura-5r-duo) * [https://www.expedusa.com/products/flexmat](https://www.expedusa.com/products/flexmat) I would wait about 2 weeks or so to purchase anything. The July 4th sales will start then and we will have another camping deal megathread then.

hey there! my boyfriend and i bought the Exped Dura 5R double sleeping pad a couple years ago. it’s held up great, light weight, and takes up little space. you can inflate manually or we bought a little flextail rechargeable air pump for like $30 and that does the trick. definitely has improved our sleep quality a lot while camping (boyfriend has back issues so a bad sleep set up is not really an option) it’s a bit on the expensive side but as far as i’m concerned with multiple uses and better sleep it’s well worth it. from what i can tell you should be able to order one in Canada if you so chose! hope this helps & you guys find something you like!

Exped Dura. Sleeping mat is not something I cheap out on

Unless you are only ever going to use it at +10c or warmer, go 5R Edit: if mostly used inside a tent and on relatively "gentle" ground, ultra is fine, if you are like me and like to use it as a chair/couch in far from ideal conditions to, get dura or versa. Edit2: and unless you are really narrow, get MW or LW

Unless you are only ever going to use it at +10c or warmer, go 5R Edit: if mostly used inside a tent and on relatively "gentle" ground, ultra is fine, if you are like me and like to use it as a chair/couch in far from ideal conditions to, get dura or versa. Edit2: and unless you are really narrow, get MW or LW

Or the exped dura-series. They are heavier but more comfortable. God tur!

As others have mentioned, your requirements are unrealistic. You can't get light and durable or warm and cheap. Comfortable is also sadly somewhat tied to R-value since the thicker more comfortable pads also tend to have higher R-values and thus cost more. But with the exped duro series you can get quite durable and relatively warm and if you're willing to pay for it.

Exped dura/ultra. Good european quality, not comparable to all the US trash

Exped Ultra or if you will be in a bit rougher terrain the exped dura. I use a dura5r and its mor comfortable than my bed at home

To reiterate what I said in the comments, I got the Exped Dura for that same reason, I wanted a durable pad since I'm a bigger guy and the Dura is made with a stronger material

I have the Exped Dura, I was going to get the Ultra but I'm a bigger guy and wanted the extra durability, I like it a lot so far

I've been sleeping on a exped 3R every night at home for a couple of years. I roll it up to take hiking when I get the chance too. For me, it's the bees knees. I've got the 5r for colder hikes. The sides being bigger help me stay on it if I'm on uneven ground, a plus at times. I no longer shop for pads!

I currently use an Exped Ultra 7R which packs smaller, is lighter, and has an additional 2 R value than the S2S pad. They also have a 5R pad that’s even lighter. I have yet to find any down side to Exped other than they’re a bit on the costly side. I’m not sure about the S2S pad, but many 4 season pads have a crinkling sound from the reflective insulation layer, but my pad is much more muffled than most others with that layer. The noise alone is a winner for me since I tend to move a lot while sleeping.

Love my Exped 5R but learned the expensive way, 1st bought a Klymit Static V for $60 on sale (r rating is not real and the valve broke after 1 year) then Nemo Tensor (love it unless I’m camping with my partner in which case the crinkling chip bag sound kept them awake all night) and finally tried the Exped and now I don’t use anything else!

Exped 5R is awesome. May be a little out of the price range but worth it.

+1 on this, I tried several pads (foam and inflatable) as a side sleeper and the Expeds are AMAZING. I actually get good nights sleep on trail with them and they’re pretty good in terms of weight. I’ve got the 3R, 5R, and 7R versions now. The inflating part takes some getting used to (“schnozzle bag”) but is kinda fun. At least they don’t advertise themselves as “self-inflating” like some other pads that don’t actually self inflate.

+1 for exped 5r, its heat transfer resistance is amazing at only 555g

G'Day Practical, I've had an Exped Synmat which I recently replaced with an Exped 5R (I haven't used this yet, but it is the successor the Synmat). The Synmat lasted quite a few years and I was very happy with it. Both mats are rectangular rather than tapered so I think you will be less likely to slide off it. I certainly never had any problems, which is why I bought the 5R. Regarding sleeping bags, I have a three season bag (Exped Ultralite 300, \~300 g down) which I can pair with an inner bag (Macpac Snowflake, 130 g down). I used this combination (along with a silk inner sheet) in Nepal up to 4000 m (in accommodation) and was always comfortable. Note, you didn't mention having an inner sheet. If you do not have one, I advise you to get one (silk, not cotton). I think it is worth buying quality products from reputable manufacturers. They will last you a long time and be reliable.

This is the pad I use, as a side sleeper I find it really comfortable.

Exped has wide pads that are very quiet. The 5R is warm enough for me to 20F for sure, so in rectangular (not mummy) it might suit you. If you believe that noise comes from a pad squeaking against the fabric of a tent floor, then putting a 1/8" thinlite (or goodnite) CCF pad between an inflatable and tent floor will create enough friction to "lock" the inflatable in place and prevent squeaking. Also such a CCF will add to warmth [and weight]. And the lengthwise air chambers may help a side sleeper stay centered on the pad. I still have to wear earplugs to sleep but I imagine that you do as well because of the frogs, toads, crickets, and katydids that are tremendously noisy at night.

They're all good pads. I find them all comfortable in their own ways. Exped has the nicest fabric, but it's also the thickest which I don't really like. The Nemo tensor is the overall most comfortable, no nonsense, best of all worlds. The Xlite is my favorite however. I like the horizontal baffles. The new NXT version isn't as loud as its predecessors. The mummy shape is tapered in the perfect places unlike Expeds mummy pads, I prefer it over rectangular ones.

The Thermarest NeoAir is indeed lighter. At just 12 ounces the semi-mummy arguably the best quality sleeping pad in this range and weight. But it's also not cheap. The NeoAir Xtherm is the cold weather version, R 7.4, and 16 oz. The Nemo Tensor Extreme is rectangle, R 8.1, and 18 oz. Both the Thermarest and Nemos are quieter than they were in the past. Also, the more you use them, the more quiet they get. Agree the Thermarest pump sack is the worst of the bunch, no question, but I've gotten mine to work enough. The Rapide is usually warm enough for most people 3 seasons, and the reason to buy it is indeed it's thickness, and the sides being raised. Agree the Exped 5R is good for most people. It's a simple, comfortable, rectangle. R 4.8, and 1lb 4 oz. That's certainly heavier than the Thermarest but $50 cheaper.

They're not quite as light but I'm a huge fan of the Exped 5R, 4.8R Value and the Medium-Wide is about 23 oz.

They're not quite as light but I'm a huge fan of the Exped 5R, 4.8R Value and the Medium-Wide is about 23 oz.

I'm about to buy the thermarest neoloft. It's thick and quiet, reasonable weight to comfort ratio and Nalgene sized. I have an exped 5r right now and can't stand it. Not comfy and sooooooooo loud.

Definitely try deflating a little bit first, but it's hard to sleep on any of these inflatable pads. Did you get the wide mummy version or max version so you can rest your arms a bit? I personally found the Nemo Tensor to be the most comfortable but don't trust them for quality at all. The Exped 5R is pretty comfortable with vertical baffles but it's quite heavy at over 20oz for the 72x20 model. (The NeoAir NXT mummy wide is bigger and only 16oz)

Fellow Edmontonian here! You can't go wrong with an exped for your sleeping mat. My wife and I are avid backpackers, and have used a double wide exped for numerous years with zero issue. We also share a double sleeping bag from big agnes, but upgraded to a quilt from Enlightened Equipment this year (haven't gotten out yet to test it however). Which trails are you hiking in Jasper and Banff? When during the season are you going? Altitude and time will also have an impact on the warmth rating you choose.

I have the green exped duo mat.

I do like to sleep comfortably when backpacking, and have spent a lot of time trying to figure out what works best for me. I've tried many pads over the past decades, including these two, along with similar Exped sleeping pads like the Ultra, Versa, and Dura. I am primarily a side sleeper, so that informs some of my sleeping experience on these, and am 190cm and 95kg. Personally I was not able to sleep comfortably on the Exped MegaMat Lite, or its siblings (Dura/Versa/Ultra). A through-line in my testing of these is the vertical baffling: I regularly wake up and find my arm is numb. I think these might work better for me if I was primarily a back or chest sleeper; lots of people like them and recommend them. But in my adulthood I've probably maximum only got about two hours of sleep at a time on a design like these. I have only had to contact Exped for warranty once, and they ended up shipping me a new unit before I even had to send the old one back: top marks here in support. I just picked up the Therm-a-rest NeoLoft before the holidays and took it on two trips in Mt Hood National Forest. Maybe the most comfortable backpacking pad I've personally used recently, even if the large (long wide, 78x26) weighs 2lbs! When fully inflated it is 4.6" thick. One of the few pads I've slept more than six straight hours on, which is kind of how I prioritize pads. Not only comfortable, but has a soft-touch stretchy fabric which feels good against the skin (I tend to sleep with quilts rather than bags). The first night I did wake up to find my arm was numb, so curious if that was a one-off with a weird sleeping position... R-value is 4.7, so I haven't used it at all in the past 45 days because of the cold where I am. It looks like the REI exclusivity is now over in early 2025, and this can be picked up lots of different places. Honestly the thing I dislike the most is the valves; I just don't care for the old-style Therm-a-rest valves. Realizing your question was specifically about those two, I also wanted to recommend what I have found to be my most comfortable pads in recent years: 1. Sea to Summit Ether Light XT Extreme Insulated. This specific pad and its sibling, Ether Light XT Insulated, have been my primary pads the past four-ish years. They are 4" thick and the most comfortable pads I've used, probably tied with the NeoLoft. Never woken with my arm numb, and the only pad I've ever slept seven-plus hours straight-through. In the PNW I use the non-Extreme-variant in the warmer half of the year, and the Extreme-variant in the colder half. The stuff sack with the inflation aid built-in is the smartest I've seen. Extreme version has an r-value of 6.2, and the non-Extreme version r-value is 3.2. The Extreme has that spider-web looking Thermolite insulation, which in my mind is the most reliable winter/cold insulation; it doesn't crinkle and potentially fail like newer thin reflective films in other lighter pads (NEMO Tensor, Big Agnes Rapide, etc). On the flip side that makes the Extreme very heavy, more than 2lbs, and also packs down the biggest of any backpacking pad I've owned. 2. REI Helix. Been using this on-and-off for the past few seasons. One of the few pads that has me sleeping through the night. It is only 3" thick, but I have found the trick is to fully inflate: the dimples do a good jump of evening out my weight and not experiencing any arm numbness. The long wide is 1lb 13oz, and seems pretty sturdy compared to other REI-brand pads I've used in the past; no leaks yet... R-value of 4.9. I always wake up refreshed and feeling good on those mats, baring any environmental issues outside of the pad. I cannot recommend the NeoLoft in that way yet, but will continue to use and test it out in the near future with an additional foam pad underneath to make it safe for snow conditions (as the r-value stacks). And I don't think I will ever recommend an Exped pad for backpacking. Exped does make fantastic foam inflating car-camping pads though!