Exped - Ultra 3R

I sleep cold and have found Ultra Exped pads to be very warm. R ratings don’t always transfer well to the real world with some brands/insulation types. Are they the lightest, no, but sleeping well is more important. I also have a down sleep hood and booties I wear. Look on AliExpress, super cheap and light. In very cold weather I use a down bag with a synthetic quilt on top. Very warm and the best of both worlds. I like the heavy fleece base layer from the company 32 degrees. Cheap, light and warm. It’s much warmer than wool.

I am an Exped Ultra 3R and 5R fan. I feel like they are highly underrated in the hiking community. My opinion is they sleep warmer than rated, are super comfortable, quite and cost less than a lot of pads. Just an FYI if you want another possibility/option. Edit: Sorry, I forgot this was Ultralight. I was thinking it was the Appalachian Trail sub.

Exped utra pads are great and highly underrated. Zen bivy light half sheet and light quilt is amazing with it. Game changer for me.

Exped Ulrta 3R or 5R. It's my favorite. I only use the 3R and pair it with a CCF pad in cold weather.

I backpack a lot and have a lot of bad back issues. I always dial my gear in at home before going into the field. I like Exped Ultra pads, I mostly use the 3R. They are highly underrated and are super comfortable for me. I use the trekology pillow. I have expermented with two in the past but I am back to one. I have used sleeping bags and quilts. Bags are out for me. Quilts are more comfortable. This year I went with the Zen Bivy light bed and it is very comfortable. I flip and flop all night and love this quilt/half sheet so far. I can get into any position for comfort.

I use the Exped Ultra 3r and love it. Their pads are highly underrated.

Would also recommend the Exped Ultra 3R. Get the wide version if you plan to be camping a lot of the time!

There’s lighter/less warm Exped pads too - I use the Ultra 3R and got it on sale for $100 a few months ago. I almost got the 5R but wanted the lighter weight pad. The R value of the 3R is warm enough for my trips and I can add a foam pad to push it into winter temps.

Nice! It’s my first Exped pad and they seem to really fly under the radar.

I’m a sidesleeper that also uses an Exped pad (3R). I find it very comfortable and it’s light and warm enough for my purposes. I have the standard mummy shape.

Exped Ultra 3R. Just slept on mine for a week straight with a quilt. Sure it’s no Exped Megamat but it’s way comfier than any backpacking pads I’ve used. Good fabric feel against the skin. Warm. Pretty bomber construction.

Exped Ultra 3r. Exped are by far the most comfortable inflatables. I loved my Exped so much, slept like a baby every night.

Yeah, I thru hiked with the older version, the Exped SynMat UL mummy (just an old name, same pad as the ultra 3r, I think). Slept like a baby every night. Exped airpads are awesome!

Totally agree on the Ultra, I've got an Ultra 3R currently that is my 3-season pad but the Elite is substantially lighter and isn't really a direct competitor, Uberlite was discontinued ostensibly because of the high failure rates and warranty claims/returns.

Exped ultra 3R is a very comfortable pad. Just got it and only used it once but so far so good

I tried the Exped Ultra 3R at some point and especially for a side sleeper it is not a good choice. The outer tubes are thicker, meaning if you stick your arm out it feels weird. I owned the StS Ether Light (Insulated) and it was so far the most comfortable pads I had. Unfortunately it is not light. At the moment I use the Nemo Tensor (Insulated) and it is comfortable enough for me. No experience with the other pads.

Same here. I find it comfy af fully inflated

I'm thinking about picking this up for my PCT thru next year. I tried the XLite, instantly got 5+ holes on the first night of a 3-night trip and it really soured my perception of the pad. I ended up using it for 60 nights after I patched every hole, but I was using a groundsheet a lot of the time after that. Picked up the Exped Ultra 3R next and man that thing is durable, quiet, and comfortable. If you look at the Ultra 5R Mummy, it's only like 3oz heavier than the XLite and the durability and comfort of those vertical baffles seem to win out for me.

Similar conditions to you and I went with an Exped Ultra (3R for summer) after seeing it recommended for side sleepers. Have been very happy. £150 from Trekitt.

FWIW, I own these two: Exped Ultra 3R (wide, non-mummy) BA Rapid SL (old 4.2R version, Regular 539g) I find them both quite comftable as a side sleeper, no cold or ground contact for shoulder/hip. The BA feels slightly more comfy than the Exped and more durable. I have used the BA down to ap. 23f - I have not had the Exped in really cold conditions yet. Unfortunately there seems to be issues with insulation in the new version of the BA Rapid, so personally I would be a bit hesitant buying it.

I've used a few double sleep systems. At first I used a Klymit Double V and a Thermarest Vela. The quilt was great, but the pad kind of sucked. It was heavy, bulky, and not that comfortable. I have slept with that setup down to 0 and was fine. Then, I got an Exped Dura 5R. It's the same weight as the Kylmit, but much warmer and more comfortable. I also impulsively ordered a Big Agnes Rapide Sl Double, which I don't like quite as much as the Exped. Then I finally found a deal on the Exped Ultra 3r, which is so much smaller and lighter than the other options. We will probably keep the two Exped pads. Finally, I just recently got a UGQ tango duo and sold the Thermarest Vela. It's cheaper than the EE Accomplice, while being better made (in my opinion) and significantly more weight efficient than the Thermarest. The Thermarest really is quite nice though. If you have any specific questions, let me know.

Personally I found pads with lengthwise baffles much more comfortable side sleeping. I ended up with an exped ultra 3r. Not the lightest, thickest or warmest but it is the most comfortable mat I tried.

I just got the 3r version, also 25” wide, and so far really like it.

Do you have a max budget? Do you have a good sleeping bag to pair it with? Any of the modern inflatable pads will fit in your bag unless you've brought enough other stuff to cross the continent on foot, lol Here's our experiences, though not a comprehensive review of everything on the market. TLDR probably get you an Exped Ultra 5R. Nemo Tensor: I am a flopper and tended to roll onto the edges, which made them collapse and dumped me onto the ground. Pad is comfortable otherwise. It does make quite the crinkly sound when moving. Exped Ultra 3R: probably a bit cold when temps are approaching the lower end of your range. Large side baffles (like the Big Agnes you linked, I think) keeps you from flinging yourself off the pad. Thick and comfortable. Fantatsic pump sack inflates the thing in like 20 seconds. Was entirely too cold for us where it gets colder than your range. Side note, it was paired with a Big Agnes sleeping bag which was horrible. Terrible bag. Exped Ultra 5R: all the pros of the 3R but warm enough! Great pad, my wife's current go-to. Therm-a-Rest NeoAir XLite MAX: or whatever the yellow rectangle \~5R one is. Lacks the side bolsters of the Exped and is thinner, but is very comfortable and IIRC lighter. Another great pad, my current go-to. Pump sack is beyond useless, too porous and leaks air instead of blowing into pad. I just blow it up by mouth. Generally, I've found we prefer rectangular pads. If you're with someone else and you both have rectangular pads - make sure they fit in your tent! Many tents are tapered and your feet will overlap which is super annoying

Thirded Very good point on the stains. I conked out really hard once and drooled on the mat and it's been stained ever since lmao. Another reason why i think it's so comfy is the vertical baffles, which keep you in place so much better Side note- really happy to see the recognition this mat has. I've been vouching for it for a while now.

Personally id avoid thermarest cause they are so loud. They also come in weighing over spec often, so they warmth/weight advantage is a bit smaller than it seems. If you are considering other options. I think that the vertical baffles are way more comfortable. Exped, big agnes do these. A good deal on an exped mat in the UK https://www.expeduk.com/products/ultra-3r?variant=44171519230266&country=GB¤cy=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20269517648&gbraid=0AAAAApwKUJuFrFp2UHLTjT1Yw3J7Jtb3K&gclid=CjwKCAjw3f_BBhAPEiwAaA3K5PDLOMRlNwjFmZzPRNER1N8ldFP9UYieepFeWgIYz7oR24VeuniABRoCUAkQAvD_BwE

After most of a thru with a 3R it's the only sleeping pad I would ever want on the AT. Comes with great pump sack. Get in a bag on top of it for winter.

Hell yeah for the exped. Super comfy and I haven’t had problems with them leaking like I did with the tensor.

Expand 3R ultra, awesome sleep. Pair with a zenbivy sleeping system trekology pillow and your golden

I've been sleeping on a exped 3R every night at home for a couple of years. I roll it up to take hiking when I get the chance too. For me, it's the bees knees. I've got the 5r for colder hikes. The sides being bigger help me stay on it if I'm on uneven ground, a plus at times. I no longer shop for pads!

If the Prolite works great for you, why not keep it and cut weight elsewhere? Pads are quite subjective, like recommending shoes. I agree it's a grail hunt, I've went through a bunch too! The Neoair is my go-to, the Exped Ultra is my favorite, and I can get by on a z-lite in warmer weather.

+1 on this, I tried several pads (foam and inflatable) as a side sleeper and the Expeds are AMAZING. I actually get good nights sleep on trail with them and they’re pretty good in terms of weight. I’ve got the 3R, 5R, and 7R versions now. The inflating part takes some getting used to (“schnozzle bag”) but is kinda fun. At least they don’t advertise themselves as “self-inflating” like some other pads that don’t actually self inflate.

I like my Exped 3R. Doesn’t sound like a potato chip bag when you move around.

I went through all the major pads (Thermarent, Nemo, S2S) and was unhappy with all of them, but I LOVE my ExPed mats. I bought the 7R for the winter and then got a 3R. They don't charge extra for long or wide - - - and I realized I sleep way better on a rectangular mat than a mummy shape. Highly recommend. Not noisy, not slick and plasticky, just great.

I have slept my Exped 3r to bits and have bought another one. It is comfortable but most of all: it is quiet. 5R should be the same

I have a tensor, xlite, and exped 3r -- I think they're all reasonably comfortable, although tensor probably at least 10% more comfy than both. Expeds can be bought cheap (sometimes $100), but if that's not the main concern it's between the tensor and xlite: tensor has 40d bottom and 20d top, xlite is 30d/30d; tensor is 5.5r / xlite is 4.5r; tensor (r/w) is 18oz, xlite max is 19oz. Historically the xlite has been considered more durable + repairable, but with the new fabric changeup recently, not sure that'll still be the case. Tensor is probably what I'd recommend to you. Also, trial version exists that is lighter but less warm (~3r) which could be warm enough for you.

And I would snag that 5R in a heartbeat. I bought a 3R that I haven't even taken out yet (need a ground setup for skyline this year) and I've already got buyers remorse. Out this way, the extra grams are def worth the extra insultation.

Exped 3r is very comfortable. I have like 10 sleeping pads, and the 3R has been the best I've tried. I'd say the uberlight is also up there, but it has been discontinued. It was more comfthan the regular neo air, which I alao have.

Not on your list, but the Exped 3R is a solid option if you find it comfortable. I find it quite comfortable. Otherwise, I'd consider the ZoomUL for the temps you're going out in instead of the rapide.

What is noisy for you with the All-Season? Generally, pads are noisy from internal insulation or from the shell material. It's hard to get away from shell material noise and mylar film is the best warmth to weight ratio insulation. For a lot of people, weight, warmth, and comfort are higher priorities than noise, which is why some of the noisier pads are the most popular. That being said, the Exped Ultra pads are pretty light, warm, and some of the least noisy. I also find them more comfortable than the Xlite or All-Season. I can confirm that companies pay millions of dollars so reviewers will lie and break the trust of their audience. /s

I’d recommend the 3R for summer, it’ll feel exactly the same as the 7R.

A big driver behind that unstable feeling are the horizontal baffles of the xlite.  Vertical baffles (my favorite) or dimples will feel much more steady at any height, and to with those baffles I think you’d be able to get away with a normal short without feeling that instability.   Tensor is well-recommended but IIRC they have some durability issues.  Exped ultras appear to be getting increasingly popular, that’s what I use for the most part.

I have a Nemo Tensor, Thermarest NeoAir X-Lite, and an Exped Ultra. My favorite of the 3 is the Exped. I haven't used the Rapide, but I'd put it in the same class as the ones I have. At that point, they are all so similar, buy the one that is the most comfortable for you. $20-30 less or more at that price point isn't huge, and is 100% worth it for more comfort.

I second exbed ultra, i also really like the sea to summit aeros deluxe backpacking pillow. They're a little annoying to set up and not the lightest or smallest, but it's very comfortable. I haven't done a thru, so I can't attest to long distance carries but I'm a very light sleepier with difficulty falling asleep and also absolutely need sleep, I'm not one of those people who can do well with minimal rest. I can only imagine on a thru I'd want maximum comfort for quality sleep. Some other commentor noted to inflate and slightly deflate and this is necessary although with practice you'll probably learn exactly how much to inflate and not have to tinker too much each night.

Unless you are only ever going to use it at +10c or warmer, go 5R Edit: if mostly used inside a tent and on relatively "gentle" ground, ultra is fine, if you are like me and like to use it as a chair/couch in far from ideal conditions to, get dura or versa. Edit2: and unless you are really narrow, get MW or LW

Unless you are only ever going to use it at +10c or warmer, go 5R Edit: if mostly used inside a tent and on relatively "gentle" ground, ultra is fine, if you are like me and like to use it as a chair/couch in far from ideal conditions to, get dura or versa. Edit2: and unless you are really narrow, get MW or LW

+1 on Exped ultra. This was way more comfy for me than the XTherm or the S2S

Second Exped ultra, as me personally searching for new pads recently, it is by far the most comfortable one with bare skin on it. The trick is, you already mentioned, the surface material and treatment. Exped ultra uses Polyester as oppose to other manus using Nylon so that it can be brushed to be softer while maintaining strength. Apart from the touch feeling, it is one of the quieter ones, hug my body better because of the vertical baffles, lots of pros here. However the Polyester surface also brings trouble: it is lipophilic, so if you have oily skins, it gets stained easily. The brushed surface offers extra grip, which can make high pitch noise when placed on top of other grippy surfaces like foam pad. Overall a very solid pad apart from the longevity that I can't test, especially for it's current price tag

Exped dura/ultra. Good european quality, not comparable to all the US trash

Exped Ultra or if you will be in a bit rougher terrain the exped dura. I use a dura5r and its mor comfortable than my bed at home

Self-inflating mats are basically 1990’s technology. Heavy and less comfortable than fully inflatable mats. Get yourselves decent comfortable inflatable mats like. Sea to Summit Etherlight XT insulated or Exped Ultra.

I know they are light but the neoair durability isn’t great. Also Cascade (thermarest) just moved from Seattle to Reno and I bet things are super disorganized still I opted for the Exped Ultra series. There’s a weight penalty but I find them much more comfortable, and Exped repairs pads for the cost of shipping to Tacoma.

I like the feel of the self-inflating mats (POE InsulMat and ProLite Plus) when testing at home, but I get much better sleep on the air mat (Exped Ultra LW) when camping - more hours and my shoulders aren’t so tight in the morning.

I do like to sleep comfortably when backpacking, and have spent a lot of time trying to figure out what works best for me. I've tried many pads over the past decades, including these two, along with similar Exped sleeping pads like the Ultra, Versa, and Dura. I am primarily a side sleeper, so that informs some of my sleeping experience on these, and am 190cm and 95kg. Personally I was not able to sleep comfortably on the Exped MegaMat Lite, or its siblings (Dura/Versa/Ultra). A through-line in my testing of these is the vertical baffling: I regularly wake up and find my arm is numb. I think these might work better for me if I was primarily a back or chest sleeper; lots of people like them and recommend them. But in my adulthood I've probably maximum only got about two hours of sleep at a time on a design like these. I have only had to contact Exped for warranty once, and they ended up shipping me a new unit before I even had to send the old one back: top marks here in support. I just picked up the Therm-a-rest NeoLoft before the holidays and took it on two trips in Mt Hood National Forest. Maybe the most comfortable backpacking pad I've personally used recently, even if the large (long wide, 78x26) weighs 2lbs! When fully inflated it is 4.6" thick. One of the few pads I've slept more than six straight hours on, which is kind of how I prioritize pads. Not only comfortable, but has a soft-touch stretchy fabric which feels good against the skin (I tend to sleep with quilts rather than bags). The first night I did wake up to find my arm was numb, so curious if that was a one-off with a weird sleeping position... R-value is 4.7, so I haven't used it at all in the past 45 days because of the cold where I am. It looks like the REI exclusivity is now over in early 2025, and this can be picked up lots of different places. Honestly the thing I dislike the most is the valves; I just don't care for the old-style Therm-a-rest valves. Realizing your question was specifically about those two, I also wanted to recommend what I have found to be my most comfortable pads in recent years: 1. Sea to Summit Ether Light XT Extreme Insulated. This specific pad and its sibling, Ether Light XT Insulated, have been my primary pads the past four-ish years. They are 4" thick and the most comfortable pads I've used, probably tied with the NeoLoft. Never woken with my arm numb, and the only pad I've ever slept seven-plus hours straight-through. In the PNW I use the non-Extreme-variant in the warmer half of the year, and the Extreme-variant in the colder half. The stuff sack with the inflation aid built-in is the smartest I've seen. Extreme version has an r-value of 6.2, and the non-Extreme version r-value is 3.2. The Extreme has that spider-web looking Thermolite insulation, which in my mind is the most reliable winter/cold insulation; it doesn't crinkle and potentially fail like newer thin reflective films in other lighter pads (NEMO Tensor, Big Agnes Rapide, etc). On the flip side that makes the Extreme very heavy, more than 2lbs, and also packs down the biggest of any backpacking pad I've owned. 2. REI Helix. Been using this on-and-off for the past few seasons. One of the few pads that has me sleeping through the night. It is only 3" thick, but I have found the trick is to fully inflate: the dimples do a good jump of evening out my weight and not experiencing any arm numbness. The long wide is 1lb 13oz, and seems pretty sturdy compared to other REI-brand pads I've used in the past; no leaks yet... R-value of 4.9. I always wake up refreshed and feeling good on those mats, baring any environmental issues outside of the pad. I cannot recommend the NeoLoft in that way yet, but will continue to use and test it out in the near future with an additional foam pad underneath to make it safe for snow conditions (as the r-value stacks). And I don't think I will ever recommend an Exped pad for backpacking. Exped does make fantastic foam inflating car-camping pads though!