Exped - Ultra 7R

I second that, I have one of there down mats for the past 10 years, its the only thing I wouldn't leave home with out. I'm also a side sleeper and have always felt like I'm at home sleeping in bed.

its a old model, looking at there website the ultra 7R would be the replacement. [https://www.exped.com/en/products/sleeping-mats/ultra-7r?sku=7640445454612](https://www.exped.com/en/products/sleeping-mats/ultra-7r?sku=7640445454612) its over kill for summer but @ 855g why not

I currently use an Exped Ultra 7R which packs smaller, is lighter, and has an additional 2 R value than the S2S pad. They also have a 5R pad that’s even lighter. I have yet to find any down side to Exped other than they’re a bit on the costly side. I’m not sure about the S2S pad, but many 4 season pads have a crinkling sound from the reflective insulation layer, but my pad is much more muffled than most others with that layer. The noise alone is a winner for me since I tend to move a lot while sleeping.

Budget? Exped ultra 7R is amaaaaazing but pricey af. We got ours on a 50%off sale and are so happy with them

My mind was actually blown with the exped. I’m a side sleeper (worse, a twisted 3/4 to the side sleeper) and even though the things like two inches thick it’s legitimately as comfortable as my bed at home. Also it’s extremely warm and cozy in the cold but somehow feels nice and cool in the summer! I use it on the ground or in my hammock depending on my mood and it’s never let me down

A more modern foldable ultralight ccf sleeping pad. Like the ones in Decathlon. And then combine that with an inflatable like the Xtherm or Exped Ultra 7r. Many say the Exped is more comfortable. Those are the two pads I'd trust.

+1 on this, I tried several pads (foam and inflatable) as a side sleeper and the Expeds are AMAZING. I actually get good nights sleep on trail with them and they’re pretty good in terms of weight. I’ve got the 3R, 5R, and 7R versions now. The inflating part takes some getting used to (“schnozzle bag”) but is kinda fun. At least they don’t advertise themselves as “self-inflating” like some other pads that don’t actually self inflate.

Exped Ultra 7R has been amazing. If you’re not an absolute unit it’s on sale at camofire right now for $99. Quite a steal really.

I have a Megamat for car camping and absolutely love it. For backpacking, I use either Exped Ultra 7R LW (when it is really cold) or Exped Ultra 5R mummy when I am trying to keep the weight down (much lighter weight, still very good protection against unexpected cold nights in the mountains). Both are about as comfortable as you can get for a backpacking sleeping pad. EDIT ADD: I am also a side sleeper. Additionally, I have tried several of the popular sleeping pads that people typically recommend. Ultra 7R LW & Ultra 5R mummy will weight a bit more, but I find them warmer and more comfortable.

Naturehike is not ASTM rated. Skip. The Rapide is a great pad but is a bit cold. If you want the direct replacement to this pad get the Boundary Deluxe, which is the new name for the Q Core Deluxe. However if you are going to go winter camping over snow go for a higher R value pad. Exped Ultra 5 Exped Ultra 7 Sea to Summit Etherlight XT Extreme Thermarest XTherm Nemo Tensor Extreme

I went through all the major pads (Thermarent, Nemo, S2S) and was unhappy with all of them, but I LOVE my ExPed mats. I bought the 7R for the winter and then got a 3R. They don't charge extra for long or wide - - - and I realized I sleep way better on a rectangular mat than a mummy shape. Highly recommend. Not noisy, not slick and plasticky, just great.

I use a 3.5” thick Exped 7R. I’m a side sleeper and have to deflate my mats so they’re comfortable which decreases the r-value. If I need extra comfort, I can add a cut-down Switchback on top (length = shoulders to hips) which makes the pad way cozier and replaces some of the lost r-value.

I got the exped Ultra 7R Mummy wide. If you don’t need extra R value like me (I get cold super fast) then the Ultra 5R is a lot less money. I don’t like the mummy versions, but my tent stupid-designed with a smaller foot area and 2 regular mats just don’t fit :( It’s why I kept the synmat though. Because if I wanted to go solo it’s still a nicer option. I will say the synmat 7 is nicer overall, the material seems heartier and it’s not as loud or bouncy, the ultra seems a bit more bouncy. It’s not awful but it’s possibly also the mummy design and lighter weight. If you want a tougher mat they have other lines. It’s not like you can’t just go to the site and see the lines. So get what works best for you. :)

I sleep cold also and tried to push my tensor to low 30s and was also very cold. I've since just decided to go all the way an use an Exped r7 pad for 40s and below. You could also try moving  the thin foam mat on top of the infamous one. That also helped me since it holds the warmth better.

I set up an alert on marketplace so I can snag lightly used Expeds. I want the quality and the weight, not willing to get a cheaper pad that won’t hold up. Got a downmat 9 for $20. No stuff sack. Win. Got a double synmat for $100 with shnozzle/bag. Basically brand new. Win. As long as you check the inflate/deflate nozzles, any pinhole leaks should be easy to repair. To date neither of my pads have had any leaks.

Yeah, they really are the bees knees! If you ever get a chance, snag an older downmat. SO COMFY, R value is 9 and even though it’s bulky it’s definitely saved me suffering through chilly nights in the colder months (Canadian prairie/mountains). The double synmat is even smaller than my thermarest from a few years back. I don’t usually simp for brands, but unless exped seriously screws up their quality/production I’ll be a fan for a long time.

If the Prolite works great for you, why not keep it and cut weight elsewhere? Pads are quite subjective, like recommending shoes. I agree it's a grail hunt, I've went through a bunch too! The Neoair is my go-to, the Exped Ultra is my favorite, and I can get by on a z-lite in warmer weather.

I sleep cold and have found Ultra Exped pads to be very warm. R ratings don’t always transfer well to the real world with some brands/insulation types. Are they the lightest, no, but sleeping well is more important. I also have a down sleep hood and booties I wear. Look on AliExpress, super cheap and light. In very cold weather I use a down bag with a synthetic quilt on top. Very warm and the best of both worlds. I like the heavy fleece base layer from the company 32 degrees. Cheap, light and warm. It’s much warmer than wool.

Exped utra pads are great and highly underrated. Zen bivy light half sheet and light quilt is amazing with it. Game changer for me.

I have a Nemo Tensor, Thermarest NeoAir X-Lite, and an Exped Ultra. My favorite of the 3 is the Exped. I haven't used the Rapide, but I'd put it in the same class as the ones I have. At that point, they are all so similar, buy the one that is the most comfortable for you. $20-30 less or more at that price point isn't huge, and is 100% worth it for more comfort.

I second exbed ultra, i also really like the sea to summit aeros deluxe backpacking pillow. They're a little annoying to set up and not the lightest or smallest, but it's very comfortable. I haven't done a thru, so I can't attest to long distance carries but I'm a very light sleepier with difficulty falling asleep and also absolutely need sleep, I'm not one of those people who can do well with minimal rest. I can only imagine on a thru I'd want maximum comfort for quality sleep. Some other commentor noted to inflate and slightly deflate and this is necessary although with practice you'll probably learn exactly how much to inflate and not have to tinker too much each night.

Unless you are only ever going to use it at +10c or warmer, go 5R Edit: if mostly used inside a tent and on relatively "gentle" ground, ultra is fine, if you are like me and like to use it as a chair/couch in far from ideal conditions to, get dura or versa. Edit2: and unless you are really narrow, get MW or LW

+1 on Exped ultra. This was way more comfy for me than the XTherm or the S2S

Second Exped ultra, as me personally searching for new pads recently, it is by far the most comfortable one with bare skin on it. The trick is, you already mentioned, the surface material and treatment. Exped ultra uses Polyester as oppose to other manus using Nylon so that it can be brushed to be softer while maintaining strength. Apart from the touch feeling, it is one of the quieter ones, hug my body better because of the vertical baffles, lots of pros here. However the Polyester surface also brings trouble: it is lipophilic, so if you have oily skins, it gets stained easily. The brushed surface offers extra grip, which can make high pitch noise when placed on top of other grippy surfaces like foam pad. Overall a very solid pad apart from the longevity that I can't test, especially for it's current price tag

Hell yeah for the exped. Super comfy and I haven’t had problems with them leaking like I did with the tensor.

Exped dura/ultra. Good european quality, not comparable to all the US trash

Exped Ultra or if you will be in a bit rougher terrain the exped dura. I use a dura5r and its mor comfortable than my bed at home

Self-inflating mats are basically 1990’s technology. Heavy and less comfortable than fully inflatable mats. Get yourselves decent comfortable inflatable mats like. Sea to Summit Etherlight XT insulated or Exped Ultra.

Thirded Very good point on the stains. I conked out really hard once and drooled on the mat and it's been stained ever since lmao. Another reason why i think it's so comfy is the vertical baffles, which keep you in place so much better Side note- really happy to see the recognition this mat has. I've been vouching for it for a while now.

What is noisy for you with the All-Season? Generally, pads are noisy from internal insulation or from the shell material. It's hard to get away from shell material noise and mylar film is the best warmth to weight ratio insulation. For a lot of people, weight, warmth, and comfort are higher priorities than noise, which is why some of the noisier pads are the most popular. That being said, the Exped Ultra pads are pretty light, warm, and some of the least noisy. I also find them more comfortable than the Xlite or All-Season. I can confirm that companies pay millions of dollars so reviewers will lie and break the trust of their audience. /s

I know they are light but the neoair durability isn’t great. Also Cascade (thermarest) just moved from Seattle to Reno and I bet things are super disorganized still I opted for the Exped Ultra series. There’s a weight penalty but I find them much more comfortable, and Exped repairs pads for the cost of shipping to Tacoma.

I like the feel of the self-inflating mats (POE InsulMat and ProLite Plus) when testing at home, but I get much better sleep on the air mat (Exped Ultra LW) when camping - more hours and my shoulders aren’t so tight in the morning.

A big driver behind that unstable feeling are the horizontal baffles of the xlite.  Vertical baffles (my favorite) or dimples will feel much more steady at any height, and to with those baffles I think you’d be able to get away with a normal short without feeling that instability.   Tensor is well-recommended but IIRC they have some durability issues.  Exped ultras appear to be getting increasingly popular, that’s what I use for the most part.

I do like to sleep comfortably when backpacking, and have spent a lot of time trying to figure out what works best for me. I've tried many pads over the past decades, including these two, along with similar Exped sleeping pads like the Ultra, Versa, and Dura. I am primarily a side sleeper, so that informs some of my sleeping experience on these, and am 190cm and 95kg. Personally I was not able to sleep comfortably on the Exped MegaMat Lite, or its siblings (Dura/Versa/Ultra). A through-line in my testing of these is the vertical baffling: I regularly wake up and find my arm is numb. I think these might work better for me if I was primarily a back or chest sleeper; lots of people like them and recommend them. But in my adulthood I've probably maximum only got about two hours of sleep at a time on a design like these. I have only had to contact Exped for warranty once, and they ended up shipping me a new unit before I even had to send the old one back: top marks here in support. I just picked up the Therm-a-rest NeoLoft before the holidays and took it on two trips in Mt Hood National Forest. Maybe the most comfortable backpacking pad I've personally used recently, even if the large (long wide, 78x26) weighs 2lbs! When fully inflated it is 4.6" thick. One of the few pads I've slept more than six straight hours on, which is kind of how I prioritize pads. Not only comfortable, but has a soft-touch stretchy fabric which feels good against the skin (I tend to sleep with quilts rather than bags). The first night I did wake up to find my arm was numb, so curious if that was a one-off with a weird sleeping position... R-value is 4.7, so I haven't used it at all in the past 45 days because of the cold where I am. It looks like the REI exclusivity is now over in early 2025, and this can be picked up lots of different places. Honestly the thing I dislike the most is the valves; I just don't care for the old-style Therm-a-rest valves. Realizing your question was specifically about those two, I also wanted to recommend what I have found to be my most comfortable pads in recent years: 1. Sea to Summit Ether Light XT Extreme Insulated. This specific pad and its sibling, Ether Light XT Insulated, have been my primary pads the past four-ish years. They are 4" thick and the most comfortable pads I've used, probably tied with the NeoLoft. Never woken with my arm numb, and the only pad I've ever slept seven-plus hours straight-through. In the PNW I use the non-Extreme-variant in the warmer half of the year, and the Extreme-variant in the colder half. The stuff sack with the inflation aid built-in is the smartest I've seen. Extreme version has an r-value of 6.2, and the non-Extreme version r-value is 3.2. The Extreme has that spider-web looking Thermolite insulation, which in my mind is the most reliable winter/cold insulation; it doesn't crinkle and potentially fail like newer thin reflective films in other lighter pads (NEMO Tensor, Big Agnes Rapide, etc). On the flip side that makes the Extreme very heavy, more than 2lbs, and also packs down the biggest of any backpacking pad I've owned. 2. REI Helix. Been using this on-and-off for the past few seasons. One of the few pads that has me sleeping through the night. It is only 3" thick, but I have found the trick is to fully inflate: the dimples do a good jump of evening out my weight and not experiencing any arm numbness. The long wide is 1lb 13oz, and seems pretty sturdy compared to other REI-brand pads I've used in the past; no leaks yet... R-value of 4.9. I always wake up refreshed and feeling good on those mats, baring any environmental issues outside of the pad. I cannot recommend the NeoLoft in that way yet, but will continue to use and test it out in the near future with an additional foam pad underneath to make it safe for snow conditions (as the r-value stacks). And I don't think I will ever recommend an Exped pad for backpacking. Exped does make fantastic foam inflating car-camping pads though!