Thinlight Foam Pad - 1/8"

does it make me a masochist that the most comfortable I've been is with two 1/8th inch thinlights cut to torso length? i just got the 3/8th torso version and feel like i'll be living in luxury for 2.8 oz

I spent the first night on this 6mm pad, and it is awesome. Genuine Evazote is far superior than the gossamer gear thinlight. I’ve used pads as small as 15x40 to reduce volume successfully. Shout out to Nunatak for stocking these. https://nunatakusa.com/51-supplies

I don’t think you will die assuming you stay dry but I doubt you will be anything remotely near comfortable. I’m a pretty cold sleeper and I have learned that the sleeping pad makes the biggest difference for me personally. My most recent trip consisted of 15° temps, winds, frozen ground, and sleet. I had a 15° bag, Nemo switchback, Nemo tensor extreme, and my gossamer gear 1/8” pad that I brought for sitting on but I threw it under my sleep pad also. I slept in 250 merino wool tights, octa fleece pants, the thickest wool socks I own, wool top, octa fleece hoodie, 650 down jacket, neck gaiter, and a beanie. I was comfortable but by morning I had started to get cold due to some moisture issues. Long story short, it took me several uncomfortable nights to dial in a system that works.

[Gossamer Gear Thinlight Pad](https://www.gossamergear.com/products/thinlight-foam-pad) ON TOP of your inflatable pad and not below it. Years ago Bill (hammock maker and thru hiker) over at Whiteblaze ran some tests on which inflatable/ccf combo was best and he and others found that placing the ccf pad on top of the inflatable pad created a warmer environment in cold temps. I started using that same method a few years ago during a February hike on the AT and found it much better than the other way around.

I have both versions. The darker is slightly smaller in width. It's definitely more durable but not by a significant amount.

I have both versions. The darker is slightly smaller in width. It's definitely more durable but not by a significant amount.

I used a combination of a cut down Xped Flexmat plus and a GG 1/8th inch folded in half for most of the Colorado Trail and that was super comfortable. That set up weighed around 18oz. This past fall I picked up a Yamatomichi UL pad 15+, I’ve spent 1 night on it, so I can’t give a detailed report on it other than it kept me warm, but the 200cm length only weighs 8.2oz. I cut the extra length and I’m now using it as the back pad for my KS40.

I have that same pad, I only bring it in fall or winter to up the R value of the neo air. In a pinch I have used it inside the sleeping bag (on top of me), it really increased the warmth.

I've been mostly using half a zpad and thinlight the last couple of years. Works just fine together for me. I used 3/8 thick CCF for years and years, then a classic Thermarest Ultralight was shear luxury (before Neoair era). Honestly you get used to thinner CCF pads, and the shoulders and hips are the most critical areas. Legs really don't need any padding. As I get older getting my pillow right is far more important. Sometimes on nightshift at work I'll sleep on the floor in a back office, direct on hard wearing commercial carpet. Sleep just fine on my side as long as I have a pillow (use a rolled up blanket for that).

I just bring one of the 1/8th inch foam pads. Thinlight or whatever they are called.

I have cut various CCF pads down to 6- 10 panels and just take whatever I think I will need. My go to is mostly the Nemo Switchback. If the ground is especially hard,I triple up my GG thinlight if I have it for under my hips, or if no thinlight put my puffy under my hips if they are feeling a bit tender. The Switchback is fine on its own though in most situations. I am a female side sleeper :-) The simplicity of CCF is bliss.

I haven't used it standalone below 2C. In winters gobe by, I have "stacked" with GG thinlight, Switchback and Klymit Xlite torso size (it's kinda like a frame rather than a total inflatable). Or another combo was Switchback with shorter sections of Exoed Flexmat- orange one. This is my conundrum at the moment, and I have moved to a much colder climate. I have ordered a thermarest womens prolite plus self inflating mat in short 120cm size as when side sleeping that will have all but my toes on it anyway. It's R Value is 3.6 I think and it weighs 450g. With a CCF I think I will be ok subzero as anecdotally I fond ccf in those conditions perform better than the R value would suggest, whereas the inflatables I had pre-2021 always seemed to perform worse than advertised. I know it seems very old-fashioned and not UL to get a SI mat, but unless I really have to get an inflatable mat for Winter, I would really rather not.