Klymit - Inertia X Lite

I haven't used it standalone below 2C. In winters gobe by, I have "stacked" with GG thinlight, Switchback and Klymit Xlite torso size (it's kinda like a frame rather than a total inflatable). Or another combo was Switchback with shorter sections of Exoed Flexmat- orange one. This is my conundrum at the moment, and I have moved to a much colder climate. I have ordered a thermarest womens prolite plus self inflating mat in short 120cm size as when side sleeping that will have all but my toes on it anyway. It's R Value is 3.6 I think and it weighs 450g. With a CCF I think I will be ok subzero as anecdotally I fond ccf in those conditions perform better than the R value would suggest, whereas the inflatables I had pre-2021 always seemed to perform worse than advertised. I know it seems very old-fashioned and not UL to get a SI mat, but unless I really have to get an inflatable mat for Winter, I would really rather not.

If it's not cold, you can save space and weight with an uninsulated inflatable. I have a klymit inflatable that took me across Scotland. I used a z-lite on top of it for cold nights since that is negligible weight and can be stored externally. But my real answer is a hammock.

We had an alps mountaineering full sized inflatable. Got about 6” thick, packed down into a sack about the size of a plastic grocery bag, and came with a rechargeable pump. Never leaked until our dog got freaked out and put a hole in it one night. Bit big for backpacking but we took it into the BWCA a couple times and car camping a lot. Klymit(sp?) makes a decent double that packs down too I think, and they’re typically a bit cheaper than their competitors. I have a single that I use for backpacking and it’s pretty nice. I used to have a really lightweight thermarest but it wasn’t comfortable, especially for side sleeping with bad shoulders. My favorite upgrade we have made are our Nemo sleeping bags. They are shaped specifically for side sleeping and are extra wide. They also zip together. Check out the Nemo disco best bag I’ve ever used

I upgraded and it was worth it. But the klymit served me well for a long time. Im just a restless side sleeper so nothing is perfect

Yup. I went from a yoga mat in my 20s to a 1” pad to a 2.5” pad and now that hit 40 I splurged for the exped mat.  For backpacking I still use the klymit

Don't do it. Bought a cheap pad with air cells like that for my first backpacking trip, absolutely miserable sleeping experience and I have a very high tolerance to sleeping in uncomfortable situations. Laying directly on the ground was better, and whatever r rating was claimed was absolute bs. We were in a small canyon next to running water and an absolutely wicked wind storm kicked up, I froze my ass off that night, spent most of awake trying to get warm and willing the sun to come up. Second pad was a Klymit with an allegedly good r rating, same air cell style shown in the photo you attached. Did three days at 8000 feet in early March in Southwest Utah, froze my absolute ass off. I had Bought a 15 degree Big Agnes bad to match my fancy new Klymit pad in an attempt to avoid being cold again. was in a two person ultralight tent less than a foot away from one of my companions, and still woke up COLD. I'm talking laying in your bag scared to move and hit a cold spot, praying for the sun to rise, dreading going to sleep the following night cold Finally forked over the cash for a quality Thermarest Prolite Plus and I'm here to tell you for 150 bucks the difference in sleep quality but more importantly WARMTH is insane. Did three days at 9,500-10,000 feet also in Southwest Utah and slept like a baby every night. Spent a week in star valley Wyoming sleeping on a cot in a field about 15 feet away from the very cold Flat Creek with the Thermarest pad and a 15 Degree Big Agnes bag. would wake up in the morning with my bag completely iced over with frozen morning dew as well as the entire field, I was warm as could be in that bag, like I was in bed at home. Sleeping on a wack pad is something I would never wish on anybody. I would be more willing to roll the dice on my bag than my pad. If temperature isn't a concern whatsoever then go for it I guess but that air cell style is more uncomfortable than sleeping on the ground, I'd rather have a fourteen dollar foam pad than that air cell dogshit. Spend the money, sleep comfortably, enjoy your time. There are corners that can be cut to save you money, but your sleep system is absolutely not the place to do it. At best you could be uncomfortable when you're trying to recover so you can go have fun and walk a bunch with your friends, at worst your life could be in danger.

I picked up a Big Agnes Q Core Deluxe on clearance last year for $119 at Public Lands. R value of 4.3 and 25oz. It's very comfortable. At least as comfortable as my mattress at home. I upgraded from a sub $100 Klymit pad I found on Amazon that had the same R rating but was lighter, but didn't feel as warm and was much less comfortable. Still, it was adequate. Amazon has the NeoAir Xlite NXT on sale now for $179. It's am R4.5 pad that's lighter than mine. A lot of people like it. You should check for sales right after Christmas. Thermarest, Big Agnes, Nemo, Exped, and Sea to Summit make a range of good pads at various price points with different R values and weights.My wife went with a very high R Exped pad and loves it.

I second Klymit for a pad. Ours has lasted 7 years and is still going strong. For a bag, I got a steal on an REI used bag online. I’d check there first. Or, look for an outdoor gear rental place. REI is one place, but two state universities near us in Minnesota have a gear rental store open to everyone. It’s a good way to start without a huge monetary cost.

I have the Klymit and was shockingly surprised that how comfortable it was in my mid 40s on the hard ground. I even had room for an inflatable pillow because of it

I went from a Klymit to a Big Agnes. Night and day difference. 

Walmart in the US has Klymit ones for like $40 and they’re not terrible quality. I use it for bikepacking or solo backpacking. And they’re smaller than a Nalgene!

Just spend a week using the Klymit and it was not very comfortable. It isn’t very warm and of the two I bought both of them wouldn’t hold air in them. It’s the valve system they use, it leaks air. I returned them. I did like the size of the Klymit, it hardly takes up any room. I think a standard nemo folding pad would be better than Klymit.

I used to sleep on a Klymit and recently upgraded to a Thermarest Neoair. Huge difference, Klymits are cheap but they are cheap for a reason, they kinda suck.

the klymit pad, to me, is so so for insulation. you can add a thin foam pad or an accordion style pad underneath for added warmth.

Love our klymit

Msr hubba 1 person and an inflatable klymit pad. Tiny volume for each.

And they are not comfortable at all

I loathe my klymit My cats likes it when I've blown it up at home 🤣 I need a nicer one 

+1 on the Klymit and definitely buy a small air pump it saves sooo much time

One issue I have with the Klymit pad is that it’s pretty thin, only a couple inches when inflated. That means it has to be full of air - which makes it very firm - or at least that’s what mine feels like. I use a Big Agnes insulated air core long version for my backpacking trips and letting just a bit of air out makes it feel softer.

I’m a big fan of the Klymit sleeping pads because they shrink down to a very small bag. They also have insulated ones as well. https://klymit.com/collections/sleeping-pads?srsltid=AfmBOor8sFbQtKDkoHgleM9CoonuzoUvKVoR1cCH2FGtWsLvweFtrqwj

Klymit straight up lies about R values.

That's why I said adding a foam pad like a thinlight and 6.5 in quotation marks. He did say r-value didn't matter as much so I'm assuming he camps above freezing. Even klymits with added insulation can go down that much. Its a solution that helps with comfort and weight compared with a megamat. I have the megamat and several types of klymit, i can make real world comaprisons.

No worries, I shouldnt have assumed. the megamat is much more comfortable. I'm both a side and back sleeper and would say if you are mostly a side sleeper (or have a big butt) I wouldnt get the klymit at all.

I've gotta say, I had/have the klymit pad and the biggest thing is just how much colder I was when I slept on that compared to my newer Big Agnes Rapide pad. Sure, I'm still sleeping on an inflatable, but the warmth difference was notable. For context, my comparison is from backpacking mainly in the high sierras and I'm also a three season camping person.

Klymit lies about their r value and it’s really closer to 1.6 or 2. I am pissed at them for selling uninsulated pads marketed as insulated.

They also grossly overstate the r value. IMO their pads are trash, I’ve owned two.

I have one on the way. mummy version.. so got my fingers crossed.. I'v a Klymit that is OK but cold

I use a cheaper blow-up Klymit with some reflectix r21 over the top. Super light and cost effective. My blow-up pillow has an elastic strap, which i use to keep them together at the head, and at the toe, I just use a piece of paracord. I've done this for years and never felt the need for a $200 + sleep mat.

I'd say it depends where you live and will it get cold at night. I had the Klymit for a number of years and works well if the air pressure doesn't change at night. If you live anywhere where it gets cooler, it will deflate during the night. I live in the Yukon, and recently bought a nemo. It works super well even in the winter and packs small and light. Otherwise, look for something with a high r rating. A cheaper option would be to get a z-lite thermarest to use under your klymit mat. They are bulky but super light, rated r2, and you can strap outside your bag. Personally, I'd only use the Coleman for car camping.

Comfort is subjective. I find my Klymit pad to be very comfortable, more so than most of the other sleeping pads from bigger name manufacturers that I tried when I was shopping around. Their R-values are definitely BS though: I feel my heat getting sucked away from the ground on cold nights.

I use Klymit sleeping pad.

Agreed the Exped is surprisingly comfy for a side sleeper. I went with the ultra 5r but that shouldn’t make a difference. Tried and eventually got rid of: thermarest, ether light, klymit.

Give the Klymit a shot, Ive been using one for years with no issues!

Yeah - I bought a Klymit has it is talked about as a competitor to the bigger names. Laid on it one time, sent it back, and happily sleep on a Nemo Tensor Elite.

Anything is better than 2 yoga mats. I hear lots of people talking about exped. I have a klymit, which is okay and not too expensive, a couple of self inflating (Coleman and zenbivy), which are better but heavier, and just got a sea to summit that I haven’t tried yet. But you don’t need a giant inflator, many come with an inflation sack or you can get a small rechargeable pump from flextail.

i also bought a klymit pad and froze and now learned that their R value is completely fabricated.

I’ve used that Klymit pad plenty backpacking. It’s fine. Not amazing but good enough for a few nights at a time. Certainly worth trying imo.

Closed cell foam pad under the Klymit pad for the win.

I’m a huge Klymit for many things, but their beds only offer insulation. This OP wants some comfort. Even their $200 pad short changes.