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I’ve had good luck with the Klymit pads. I use the insulated static v lite pads. The insulation helps but calculating an R value is a bit problematic because the waffle pattern allows the sleeping bag underneath you to contribute to the warmth of the sleep system. I got refurbished pads off eBay. The valves have been reliable and I haven’t felt cold easily into the high 30s using a conventional sleeping bag. I will use a lightweight quilt with those pads into the low 50s.
We have a klymit double insulated ultra- light static v, which may have only been offered in mass drop. I think the static v is rather divisive, but it has worked really well for us.
I've also had a klymit static v LITE version I've used numerous occasions over the past half decade including backpacking trips. It's performed basically how id expect. what you see is pretty much what you get being and this kind of pad that is mostly air when set up isn't going to be magically very comfortable or extremely insulating like thicker foam. I like that for backpacking it doesn't take up much space and is lightweight and i can just throw it in my pack. And it's a lot better than nothing... it gets you off the ground at least which is way better than no pad at all when the ground is cold (i remember sleeping in a bag without any pad when i was younger and didn't know any better and freezing my ass off 😅). If I'm going to be in very cold temps (down to even 10-15°F) I've done alright with this kind of pad and a nice down sleeping bag and keeping wool base layers on while sleeping. I also use an old thermarest that i think is a bit more comfortable, but it doesn't pack as small. Just depends on what kind of camping I'm doing (how much hiking is involved) and the weather.
it may not be the most insulated type but i also find that ANYthing is so much better than no pad at all and sleeping in the cold hard ground. I learned that the hard way in my younger days 😅
to be fair the label is pretty confusing because it says it is a FOUR SEASON SLEEPING PAD, but then immediately underneath it says 1.9 ASTM F3340-18 which when i look at other sources would be on the edge of summer and 3 season at best. 🤔
I've also had a klymit static v LITE version I've used numerous occasions over the past half decade including backpacking trips. It's performed basically how id expect. what you see is pretty much what you get being and this kind of pad that is mostly air when set up isn't going to be magically very comfortable or extremely insulating like thicker foam. I like that for backpacking it doesn't take up much space and is lightweight and i can just throw it in my pack. And it's a lot better than nothing... it gets you off the ground at least which is way better than no pad at all when the ground is cold (i remember sleeping in a bag without any pad when i was younger and didn't know any better and freezing my ass off 😅). If I'm going to be in very cold temps (down to even 10-15°F) I've done alright with this kind of pad and a nice down sleeping bag and keeping wool base layers on while sleeping. I also use an old thermarest that i think is a bit more comfortable, but it doesn't pack as small. Just depends on what kind of camping I'm doing (how much hiking is involved) and the weather.
I don't really see the issue at all for spring summer fall camping if someone needs a pad and doesn't want to spend much. It gets you off the ground. spending 85 or 90 new as the retail price I can see why people might complain more but on clearance if you need a pad i don't think $30 is bad at all.
Check out Klymit’s lineup of pads. I’ve been moderately happy with mine. You might also look into hammock camping. By far the most comfortable I’ve ever been sleeping outside.
Do they? I hadn’t heard that. I’ve had my static v lite insulated pad for several years and have easily camped on 30 degree weather without issue so maybe the quality has deteriorated since then.
Just to add a bit of context here: Some of the old model pads you can find have a Klymit R-value rating, compared to the industry standard ASTM. [Discussion here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/euwcv1/updated_klymit_rvalues_with_the_new_astm_standard/). My v1 insulated static V, which Klymit still sells and advertises as 4.4 R value, has an ASTM R value of 1.9. They do advertise their _new_ versions of those pads with ASTM R values.
+1 for mec reactor (my solo, 5 years old) or klymit static insulated (double, for doubling, 3 years old) and aquaseal uv for field repairs and aquaseal seam grip for reinforcing the repair at home
I would maybe start with better insulation below, I know that pad says r4.4 which should be good in that range but klymit pads are usually not that warm partially for their pattern.
Look at the Klymit Insulated Static V. I switched to it from a more expensive (and noisy!) Thermarest pad and have spent lots of August nights in the sierra with no problems. It’s a bit heavier but durable and you may find refurbished ones that are cheap.
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