Sea To Summit - Camp Plus Self-Inflating Sleeping Pad

I use a seatosummit (camp+) pad for two years now. Pretty happy with it. It provides good thermic isolation (R4.3) for when I use it in hammock but also in tent. Even slept at home sometimes. Mine is semi-foamed, can be inflated pretty tight, small and light. They can last long. I would never go back to those bulky thin foam pads, they do not provide good isolation nor enough padding. Got holes sometimes on trip in Scotland. You can fix it in field. For small pin holes (most frequent) I use a drop of Aquasure+FD, it’s a flexible and waterproof durable glue. For bigger cuts you might need patches. Check this article and video on how to prevent holes, deal with sleeping pad in field and when back home. https://bikepacking.com/plan/best-way-to-patch-a-sleeping-pad/

https://www.rei.com/product/135417/sea-to-summit-ultralight-air-sleeping-pad?sku=1354170002&store=&CAWELAID=120217890004806433&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=147758271319&CATCI=pla-2077566611927&cm_mmc=PLA_Google%7C21700000001700551_1354170002%7C2077566611927%7Cbrand_flag%7C9920629669&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=9920629669&gclid=CjwKCAjwg7PDBhBxEiwAf1CVu1fAbcZ3QQVWH-mwf-AhewUlIW05eSDZS31n8v4YuCkqF1QmiNAjpBoC9q0QAvD_BwE Or this slightly heavier one for $100-$109 https://www.rei.com/product/199005/sea-to-summit-camp-plus-self-inflating-sleeping-pad-mummy

I had a Klymit Static V Luxe (the extra wide one) and while it's decent enough, I upgraded to a Sea-To-Summit Camp Plus self inflating mat, and that one is way more comfy for me (I'm a side sleeper). It has a much better R value to boot, I think 4.3 vs 1.3 for the non-insulated static V. It does take up more room in the top box but it's worth it to me for the better sleep. I think it's about the same price as well.

I ended up ordering (2) sea to summit [sleeping pads](https://www.rei.com/product/188372/sea-to-summit-camp-plus-self-inflating-sleeping-pad-rectangular?sku=1883720002&store=&CAWELAID=120217890011727822&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=147758271319&CATCI=pla-2077566611927&cm_mmc=PLA_Google%7C21700000001700551_1883720002%7C2077566611927%7CNB%7C71700000066415410&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=9920629669&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuvrBBhDcARIsAKRrkjdp8zEvMqi-9PXs2nnor_5HDnTqtQI9cS4CLHadHHySAL0oQFAPbdEaAvW2EALw_wcB) which are decent. They are 3inch thick and overall they work but when I’m sleeping on my side I can feel my hips touch the ground slightly. I recently purchased this Kelty [air mattress](https://www.rei.com/product/246070/kelty-kush-air-bed?sku=2460700001&store=&CAWELAID=120217890019501369&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=156088457023&CATCI=pla-2270535698878&cm_mmc=PLA_Google%7C21700000001700551_2460700001%7C2270535698878%7CNB%7C71700000066415410&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=9920629669&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuvrBBhDcARIsAKRrkjf89Vn2EV1yiTZ9x3SvoIlF9yAmiezJ5s0YYdW1_BJJI0wDWsZWHWUaArzyEALw_wcB) and it should be delivered in a few days. The kelty one is 6 inches thick so I’m hoping that solves the problem with my hips touching the ground. What I’ve come to learn is I might have to suck it up and deal with an air mattress because I couldn’t find very many sleeping pads that were more than 3inches in thickness. I think I need more of a 4-6inch thick pad to sleep comfortably. The sea to summit ones really weren’t bad at all my hip barely touched the ground but it was enough to annoy me a little. I was thinking of just getting a cheap foam fold up sleeping pad and placing that under my sea to summit pad to give a little extra cushion for my hip.

We use fold up carton type mats as our base. Then in our tent we have Sea to Summit self-inflating bed rolls. Our kids have the same base and use Therm-o-rest self-inflating ground mats. We find as long as we stay on the self-inflating mats, we’re pretty comfortable. The ther-o-rests are almost 20 years old and still in great shape. We upgraded to Sea to Summit because they fold up so small for backpacking

When I did Baker I brought a closed cell pad (Nemo switch back) and an inflatable (Sea to summit) for comfort and redundancy. You'll be hard pressed to find a new bag that's also lightweight for $200. You'll probably need to see if you can find something used or I would recommend you see if you can rent one.

Ended up getting a couple sea to summit mats on sale for $60.

Big Agnes and sea to summit checks all your boxes. Small/compact, uses vertical baffles to prevent that bouncy castle feeling and provide actual support

Rapide sl is peak. My favorite pad. Ive got a sea so summit pad that i love too but can't remember the name of it. It has like a 7 or 8 r value tho.

I personally think Sea to Summit pads are comfortable.  Nemo Tensor might interest you as well. 

Most don't last very long if you're using them more than 30 nights a year in my experience. These manufacturers are banking on most buyers using them less than that. For super avid backpackers and thru-hikers, obviously we use them way more and therefore need to replace them more frequently. I've always bought them from REI and get them replaced under their policy within the year. Or if it's little seam weld pinholes, take advantage of the warranty (I use Sea 2 Summit pads mostly). But yeah I think the companies just absorb the loss from heavy users, who are a minority of total sales they make globally. Most people just buy a pad to go camping once or twice a year and it just sits in their closet for years before it gets the same amount of camp time as we'd put it through halfway into a thru-hike. Not sure if that made sense - still pre-caffeine today edit: getting holes from pokey things is a given despite the best careful babying if you're out enough, especially in the desert. but i'm not really talking about those kind of holes (that can be patched) - i mean the phantom leaks that can't be identified or fixed easily, like seam welds, valve stuff, etc. (especially on quilted/dimpled baffles) whenever i've returned a pad it's got several patches on it - i keep the solider well bandaged until he can't fight any more

All my sea to summit pads have developed stress pinholes in the dimple welds, nothing to do with anything I could have done or prevented as a user, it's a common defect with that style of baffle.

Good for you for taking care of all your gear. I also take good care of my gear and get many miles out of it. Your response sounds quite lecture-y and finger waggy tbh, making the assumption that others don't take good care of their gear. All my sea to summit pads have developed stress pinholes in the dimple welds, nothing to do with anything I could have done or prevented as a user, it's a common defect with that style of baffle. Manufacture defects on pads are quite common and have nothing to do with user care. No matter how much you baby your sleeping pad, if it has a weak valve attachment, it's gonna develop a leak.

Buy once cry once. Thermarest, Nemo, Sea to Summit. They make the best small, lightweight, comfortable pads.

Tra i menzionati possiedo il Sea to Summit e posso parlarne bene. A pari caratteristiche c'è il cinese Naturhike di cui ne parlano molto bene.

My wife has S2S mattress - the one you are looking at or slightly colder and she likes to sleep warm. We were doing Tour du Mt Blanc this year and you want all the comfort you can get for multiple days of 1000 m up and downs even if it is worth few grams more. Nemo seems to be thicker though? And you don't have to inflate it all the way, so it will make more room for your hips but watch out, too close to the ground and it'll get cold in the middle of the night. We both use Cumulus 250 quilts and I have Thermarest NeoAir Xlite (R 4.5) - I was sweating some nights so if anything, Nemo will be too warm for the proper Summer and maybe shoulder months.

I can’t say for these specific models but I have owned three sleeping pads in my 41 years, Sea to summit, Nemo, and thermarest. The only one that has never gotten a hole in it is the thermarest and it is my oldest pad!

Don’t go self inflating if you want that much height. Car camping, yes, any of the massive, tough, heavy self inflating mats will be fine.   Go to a camping/bushwalking shop and try a Nemo tensor insulated (wide). Fill it up then let out juuuust a bit of air. You can put a closed cell foam mat underneath if you can’t get a balance between a comfortable shape and your hips touching the ground.  Sea to summit are also comfortable but don’t insulate as well.   Also - I know you know this - it’s easier if you can lose a bit of weight. I find it much less comfortable sleeping on the ground after gaining weight. 

Samw with my sea to summit absolutely unbelievable how comfy it is.

Can't say long term but I just replace my sea to summit pad with a Tensor All season. Very comfy just about to leave on tour with it.

I just picked up a Sea to Summit sleeping pad earlier this summer after years of making do with the cheap Walmart foam pad. I've slept so much better with my new setup, especially because I also bought their inflatable pillow that attaches to the sleeping pad. Wasn't the cheapest setup but very well worth it.

I have the S2S and love it! Side/back sleeper.

For me the S2S works where others don’t work. I find horizontal baffles extremely uncomfortable … it feels as if anything closer to the edge falls down and doesn’t give any support. So for me the S2S works for longer trips and for shorter I use a short version of the Nemo Tensor.

Love my S to S pad also. Rivals my Select Comfort bed at home. Bought a back up in case they go out of business.