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I have a Sea to Summit comfort light plus (think that's the one). Great. Light. Recommend.
Sea to Summit and is a great pad. Light and insulating and a bit tougher than the Klymit pads that I have.
If you haven't tried self-inflating pads you should give them a shot. I hate sleeping on air mattresses or inflatable sleeping pads, and self-inflating feel much more like a real mattress. It's a combination of foam/air, also helps if you don't inflate it all the way. Sea to summit has a whole line including the comfort and comfort light which I've used and I think are great. I've also used a cheaper REI branded one and ALPS mountaineering version and found them just as good.(Only difference being the cut which shaves weight instead of just a rectangle.) They are heavier than what everyone seems to want to go for, but they have better insulation properties than inflatable and in case of a puncture will still have some comfort.
If you haven't tried self-inflating pads you should give them a shot. I hate sleeping on air mattresses or inflatable sleeping pads, and self-inflating feel much more like a real mattress. It's a combination of foam/air, also helps if you don't inflate it all the way. Sea to summit has a whole line including the comfort and comfort light which I've used and I think are great. I've also used a cheaper REI branded one and ALPS mountaineering version and found them just as good.(Only difference being the cut which shaves weight instead of just a rectangle.) They are heavier than what everyone seems to want to go for, but they have better insulation properties than inflatable and in case of a puncture will still have some comfort.
Hi, Request for shared experiences and opinions, especially regarding comfort and reliability/durability between Therm-a-Rest Neoloft (regular wide), Neoair Topo Luxe (30 wide), and Trail Pro Max (regular wide). I travel with my wife, mostly by motorcycle, but occasionally also on short backpacking and bikebacking trips. Currently, we both use Sea-To-Summit Comfort Light (non-insulated), and we want something that provides insulation and maximum comfort, within a weight and volume compatible with our use. After much research, the Neoloft seems to be the new gold standard in terms of comfort and weight/volume. The Neoair Topo Luxe is tempting due to its 4-inch thickness and the high discounts it currently offers. The Trail Pro Max has excellent reviews in terms of comfort and durability, and is available at more affordable prices, but its volume could be a problem. The idea is to use both connected with a sheet or something similar and use a quilt or sleeping bag for two people. We didn't consider double sleeping pads because there are few options and they seem excessively expensive. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Hi 1Screw2Few, Thanks for your opinion. When you mention that the "NeoLoft" is much more comfortable, is that due to the type of exterior material, noise? Considering that the difference in thickness isn't very significant. We started with a self-inflating mattress that was 1 inch thick, then moved on to the current Sea-to-Summit mattresses that are 2 inches thick and 20 inches wide, but we never slept comfortably. So now, if we invest, it has to be something comfortable that gives us a good night's sleep. Weight, particularly for motorcycle touring, isn't the most important factor, volume should be limited, but above all, comfort for both is paramount.
Agree; I had an old Sea2Summit pad like that. By the end of its life it also had tons of little patches like that in the crevices...
I'm a side sleeper male 180lbs and I find these foam mats uncomfortable on my hips. I'm sure they will break in a bit but I prefer a sea to summit air pad. Sleep is my nemesis so It's something I cant camp without
Start with a megamat duo that will fit you and your wife for family/cub camping. You can use it solo when kid gets to scouts BSA. I recently bought a sea to summit backpacking pad and a nemo foam pad to use (hypothetically while backpacking)but also while car camping solo because the megamat is ridiculous solo.
A quality sleeping pad. For family camping or long term camping, we've got an exped MegaMat duo. And for solo camping I've got a sea to summit insulated inflatable camp pad. The key thing I've learned is I need to keep them a little under full inflation. That provides the best night's sleep. This has made a huge difference and isn't as bulky as the cot. MegaMat is probably close tho. But all of the pads also work for winter camping, something I do annually. camp pad is unbelievably important. Nothing impacts my camping experience as much as a quality camp pad.
When I did Baker I brought a closed cell pad (Nemo switch back) and an inflatable (Sea to summit) for comfort and redundancy. You'll be hard pressed to find a new bag that's also lightweight for $200. You'll probably need to see if you can find something used or I would recommend you see if you can rent one.
Insulated inflatable sleeping pad. Yes, an air mattress. But the ones with high R value will insulate you. Exped, Nemo, Thermarest, Sea to Summit, others. There are lightweight ones for backpacking and imaginably so they're going to tend to be more expensive. There are other ones that may be more comfort focused that aren't as light if you're just doing car camping. Get one from a company that does ASTM rating. This does kind of sound like "big sleeping pad" or a cartel. And it kind of is. But prior to them using that standard, it was the wild west. Sleeping pad manufacturers would just put any number on there that didn't mean anything. So a bunch of companies got together and decided to use this standard. It just gives you that relative comparison across brands. If you're not going below 32 f, then consider a pad that is R value 4 to 5. If you're going to be going below freezing but not necessarily below zero f, consider R value 6 or better. If you're going to be going below zero f then, you want to get up into the ones that are rated at R value 7.5+. You can stack an inflatable on top of ccf pads to increase your insulation. You can put an insulated sleeping pad on top of a cot if that's what you want to do. If you're using an inflatable, obviously you want to make sure it won't pop on the cot. About using a cot. Just getting you off the ground isn't going to make your warm. You'll still need insulation. The cot is irrelevant to heat transfer to the ground. You'd just end up with cold air under you instead of cold ground. One to look out for is the upcoming Nemo Eclipse which is supposed to be due out in march. It's going to be 4 in thick so probably comfortable. With an R value of 6.2 it should be pretty comfortable down to about zero f. No one really has information on this yet. So if you're looking to buy right now, you're going to look at other stuff. Check out the websites. If you see ones you're interested in, watch YouTube reviews. They're usually pretty good videos on most every product that's out there. I wanted to add, R value on sleeping pads and ground insulation is equally important to understanding top insulation. If using a sleeping bag or backpacking quilt, it's important to understand the EN or ISO rating. And really to look at the comfort rating. Understand also that those standards are assuming you're sleeping on a sleeping pad with an R value about 5 plus wearing base layer or thermal underwear, wool socks, and a warm hat.
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