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I have one - works very well in practice and pretty light. I have the compatible pillow that stays in place and is very light.
Ha, same. Started with the 'ol cheapo Klymit Static V, moved to the small mummy Therm-a-Rest XLite NeoAir for a couple years, then figured I'd get a wide to see if that helped with side sleep comfort so my butt and knees weren't off the edges (& went extra warm because may as well eliminate redundancies) with the Therm-a-Rest XTherm in reg wide. No dice. Tried a friend's Nemo Tensor, and wasn't for me. Tried the large women's Sea to Summit Comfort Light Insulated air - dimples felt odd and was too thin; no better than my old mummy xlite for overall comfort even with the wider shape. Running out of budget to throw in for the S2S Ether Light XT test and given my experience with the Comfort Light, wasn't convinced it was the move. Still haven't tried vertical baffles like the Expeds, and maybe that'd do fine, but instead just went all in on the reg wide chonky Neoloft... and good god. With that soft knit stretch top, slept a like the coziest dreamy log for 8.5 hours first time I took it out (and then 6 the next, but only thanks to a disruptive woodpecker. Nature!) I hesitate to mention/recommend it here as it kinda undermines the whole forum topic (ultralight) with its extremely-not-ultralight weight. But packs just as small as my reg-wide XTherm and as a bike camper, pack size matters more than strictly weight so I'm sticking with it.
I have a Sea to Summit comfort light plus (think that's the one). Great. Light. Recommend.
Sea to Summit and is a great pad. Light and insulating and a bit tougher than the Klymit pads that I have.
If you haven't tried self-inflating pads you should give them a shot. I hate sleeping on air mattresses or inflatable sleeping pads, and self-inflating feel much more like a real mattress. It's a combination of foam/air, also helps if you don't inflate it all the way. Sea to summit has a whole line including the comfort and comfort light which I've used and I think are great. I've also used a cheaper REI branded one and ALPS mountaineering version and found them just as good.(Only difference being the cut which shaves weight instead of just a rectangle.) They are heavier than what everyone seems to want to go for, but they have better insulation properties than inflatable and in case of a puncture will still have some comfort.
If you haven't tried self-inflating pads you should give them a shot. I hate sleeping on air mattresses or inflatable sleeping pads, and self-inflating feel much more like a real mattress. It's a combination of foam/air, also helps if you don't inflate it all the way. Sea to summit has a whole line including the comfort and comfort light which I've used and I think are great. I've also used a cheaper REI branded one and ALPS mountaineering version and found them just as good.(Only difference being the cut which shaves weight instead of just a rectangle.) They are heavier than what everyone seems to want to go for, but they have better insulation properties than inflatable and in case of a puncture will still have some comfort.
Hi, Request for shared experiences and opinions, especially regarding comfort and reliability/durability between Therm-a-Rest Neoloft (regular wide), Neoair Topo Luxe (30 wide), and Trail Pro Max (regular wide). I travel with my wife, mostly by motorcycle, but occasionally also on short backpacking and bikebacking trips. Currently, we both use Sea-To-Summit Comfort Light (non-insulated), and we want something that provides insulation and maximum comfort, within a weight and volume compatible with our use. After much research, the Neoloft seems to be the new gold standard in terms of comfort and weight/volume. The Neoair Topo Luxe is tempting due to its 4-inch thickness and the high discounts it currently offers. The Trail Pro Max has excellent reviews in terms of comfort and durability, and is available at more affordable prices, but its volume could be a problem. The idea is to use both connected with a sheet or something similar and use a quilt or sleeping bag for two people. We didn't consider double sleeping pads because there are few options and they seem excessively expensive. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Hi 1Screw2Few, Thanks for your opinion. When you mention that the "NeoLoft" is much more comfortable, is that due to the type of exterior material, noise? Considering that the difference in thickness isn't very significant. We started with a self-inflating mattress that was 1 inch thick, then moved on to the current Sea-to-Summit mattresses that are 2 inches thick and 20 inches wide, but we never slept comfortably. So now, if we invest, it has to be something comfortable that gives us a good night's sleep. Weight, particularly for motorcycle touring, isn't the most important factor, volume should be limited, but above all, comfort for both is paramount.
Agree; I had an old Sea2Summit pad like that. By the end of its life it also had tons of little patches like that in the crevices...
I'm a side sleeper male 180lbs and I find these foam mats uncomfortable on my hips. I'm sure they will break in a bit but I prefer a sea to summit air pad. Sleep is my nemesis so It's something I cant camp without
Start with a megamat duo that will fit you and your wife for family/cub camping. You can use it solo when kid gets to scouts BSA. I recently bought a sea to summit backpacking pad and a nemo foam pad to use (hypothetically while backpacking)but also while car camping solo because the megamat is ridiculous solo.
A quality sleeping pad. For family camping or long term camping, we've got an exped MegaMat duo. And for solo camping I've got a sea to summit insulated inflatable camp pad. The key thing I've learned is I need to keep them a little under full inflation. That provides the best night's sleep. This has made a huge difference and isn't as bulky as the cot. MegaMat is probably close tho. But all of the pads also work for winter camping, something I do annually. camp pad is unbelievably important. Nothing impacts my camping experience as much as a quality camp pad.
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